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President Trump And U.K. Prime Minister Starmer Answer Questions. Aired 9-9:30a ET

Aired July 28, 2025 - 09:00   ET

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The last three were very close together, India and Pakistan, and a lot of them. Congo was just -- and Rwanda was just done. But you probably know, I won't go into it very much because I don't know the final numbers yet, I don't know, numerous people were killed. And I was dealing with two countries that we get along with very well. Very different countries from certain standpoints. They've been fighting for 500 years, intermittently. And we solved that war. You probably saw it. It just came out over the wire. So, we solved it through trade. I said, I don't want to trade with anybody that's killing each other. So, we just got that one solved.

And I'm going to call the two prime ministers, who I got along with very, very well, and speak to them right after this meeting and congratulate them. But it was an honor to be involved. And that was a very -- that was going to be a very nasty war.

Those wars have been very, very nasty. So, we -- we've done a lot of good work. We've had great support from the prime minister. Anytime we needed help, anytime we needed any form of support, you've been there. We appreciate it very much.

KEIR STARMER, U.K. PRIME MINISTER: Thank you, sir.

TRUMP: And we're going to continue onward. We do have to take care of the humanitarian needs at the -- on the -- what they used to call the Gaza Strip. You don't hear that line too much anymore. You don't hear the Gaza Strip. But it is the Gaza Strip. And it's amazing that it's not being handled a little bit differently. We're going to set up food centers, and we're going to do it in conjunction with some very good people. And we're going to supply funds. And we -- we just took in trillions of dollars. We've got a lot of money. And we're going to spend a little money on some food. And other nations are joining us.

I know your nation's joining us. And we have all of the European nations joining us and others also have called, and they want to be helpful. So, we're going to set up food centers and -- where the people can walk in and no boundaries. We're not going to have fences. And, you know, they can't -- they see the food from 30 -- 30 -- you would say yards away, and they see the food, it's all there, but nobody's at it because they have fences set up that nobody can even get it. It's crazy what's going on over there.

So, we're going to work very closely together with your country. A great country.

We also discussed inside that we are, you know, there's a whole new thing happening with regard to energy from nuclear. And the prime minister is looking at that very strongly. And I know you have Rolls- Royce nuclear plants.

STARMER: Yes.

TRUMP: That sounds pretty good, right? I love that. What a -- what a great brand that is. But you're also doing the Rolls-Royce or the nuclear plants. The smaller plants. We're doing smaller and bigger. But the small is interesting. They do a small plant. Very easy. Very safe. And as they need more, they hook up another plant. And they have a series of plants instead of, you know, doing the $20 billion plant. That gets tough for a lot of people to do.

So, we're -- we're just studying that. It sounds like you're -- you're very far progressed. But that's a great thing you're doing on nuclear. We opened up nuclear about two months ago and it's -- it's now safe and very inexpensive.

STARMER: No, we see civil nuclear as a big part of the future as we go to sustainable, independent energy. And I think that between the two of us, we can work very much more closely on this.

TRUMP: Yes.

STARMER: And we've agreed that that's our ambition, that's our aspiration. And this is going to be a big part of the future when it comes to energy.

And you can see in the last few years, energy has been weaponized. Prices have dictated both families and businesses across the United Kingdom and, therefore, taking control of energy is a huge prize. So, the more we can work together on this, the better.

TRUMP: Right.

STARMER: And small, modular reactors are a very big part of the future here. And we've got great companies like Rolls-Royce involved in that. So, I'm very much looking forward to working together with you, Mr. President, on that.

TRUMP: Good. We'll do that. We'll do that.

We're going up to your oil capital in a little while. We're going up to Aberdeen. That's called the oil capital of Europe. And that's a -- that's a great asset that you have up there. Someday if -- if they ever think they're -- change their thinking on that, you have a -- a great and valuable asset. There's a lot of valuable resources underground there.

But that's a decision for you to make. But it's a very amazing place. And it's -- it is considered the oil capital of Europe. So, it's a -- it's another option that you have. So, we are doing really well as a country. And I -- I think that the

prime minister is -- he's been so supportive of us and so, so strong and so respected. And I respect him much more today than I did before, because I just met his wife and family.

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He's got a perfect wife and families. And that's never easy to achieve, right?

But --

STARMER: I take no credit for that.

TRUMP: But he's become -- he's become a friend. And -- and together we got a deal done that has not been able to be done. It was -- it was a deal that's very good for both parties.

STARMER: A really good deal for both of our countries.

TRUMP: Yes.

STARMER: And very, very well received here in the United Kingdom.

TRUMP: Yes.

So, thank you very much for having us.

STARMER: Thank you.

TRUMP: Appreciate it.

Any questions.

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REPORTER: Mr. President, (INAUDIBLE) Russia. Earlier you said that you were going to change the deadline from 50 days.

TRUMP: Yes. I --

REPORTER: What is your new deadline?

TRUMP: I'm going to make a new deadline of about ten -- ten or 12 days from today. There's no reason in waiting. There's no reason in waiting. It's 50 days. I want to be generous. But we just don't see any progress being made.

REPORTER: Mr. President, (INAUDIBLE) talked about setting up food centers in conjunction with other organizations.

TRUMP: Right.

REPORTER: You're talking about the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation or recognized aid agencies? How will this work? TRUMP: Well, it's going to be working with the United States. We'll be

helping with the food. You know, we have a lot of access to food. We got a lot of food ourselves. And we're going to bring it over there.

We're also going to make sure that they don't have barriers stopping people. You know, you've seen the areas where they actually have food and the people are screaming for food and they're -- they're 35, 40 yards away, and they won't let them because they have lines that are set up.

And whether they're set up by Hamas or whoever, but they're -- they're very strict lines. So, we have to get rid of those lines. But we're going to be getting some good, strong food. We can save a lot of people. I mean, some of those kids are -- that's real starvation stuff. I see it. And you can't fake that. So, we're going to be even more involved.

We did some airlifts before. Some air drops. And the people are running for it. And the prime minister is going to help us. They're very effective with that. You've done that before.

STARMER: Yes. Yes.

TRUMP: And for many. They've done that for 100 years very well. So, it's not -- it's not -- it's not very hard to do, actually.

Yes.

REPORTER: Mr. President, you say you love Scotland. You're the most Scottish president ever in the White House. Is there a better deal to be done for Scot -- for Scottish industry in the deal that you've done with the prime minister? Whiskey, for example.

TRUMP: Well, we have -- I have great love for Scotland. You know, my mother loved Scotland and she loved the queen. I don't know, I might hurt myself by saying that the monarchists like it, some other people, but she loved the queen. Whenever the queen was on television, she wanted to watch. And she would come back -- religiously she'd come back to Scotland once a year with my sister, Maryanne, primarily, and sometimes my sister Elizabeth also. But they -- they loved this part of the world.

And, you know, we're talking about the Isle of Lewis. We're talking about serious Scotland. That's serious Scotland. There's no -- there was no doubt about it. So, yes, it gives me a feeling -- you know, it's different. You go to another country, you have no relationship to it. You've got to like maybe the head of the country or something. But it's different when your mother was born here, Stornoway, right in Stornoway. A beautiful little place.

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REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) better deal to be done for Scotland, for whiskey, for example? Because of your love of Scotland, is there a better trade deal to be done for Scottish businesses like whiskey?

TRUMP: Well, I assume when we do our trade deal overall, a lot of it comes to Scotland, I hope. Maybe all of it should go to Scotland.

STARMER: It's a very good deal for the whole United Kingdom. And we've already achieved great things under the deal. And we'll achieve even more as we work together.

(CROSS TALK)

TRUMP: A lot of it -- a lot of it is (INAUDIBLE). I mean, I do know that. But, I mean, we're dealing with the U.K. But a lot of it comes to Scotland. And, you know, I was very particular. This -- this is a -- a part of the world I want to -- I want to see thrive. It's going to thrive.

REPORTER: Mr. President, back to Gaza, you talk about Hamas stealing food and stealing aid. What responsibility does Israel have for limiting aid to the region? And if I could ask a follow up to the prime minister, what pressure can be put on Israel? And is that something that you and the United States could work on together?

TRUMP: Israel has a lot of responsibility. They're hampered by the fact that you still have 20 hostages or so. And the people of Israel are very concerned about the 20 hostages. It's very interesting. You could say they could be more concerned about retribution than the 20 hostages. But they really want the 20 hostages to survive and live to make it.

You know, many of the hostages came to my office in the White -- the Oval Office. And I was amazed by -- I would ask them the question, was there any sign of love? Was there any sign of -- when -- when you were a hostage, and you have all of these people from Hamas around you, sometimes hundreds, sometimes ten, sometimes two.

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But you're a hostage and you're -- you're being stored in a pipe. It's not even really, you know, a cave or -- it's a pipe. A little pipe. And some said they didn't think they were going to make it because they were losing air. There wasn't enough air. And they'd open up the pipe just in time. But they didn't do it on purpose. They just happened to open it. They got lucky.

But I said, did they ever wink at you and say, like, don't worry, you're going to be OK? Did they ever give you some extra food? Even if it was a piece of bread? Did they ever give you anything during that time? And some of them were there for 400 or 500 days now, right? That's a long time. A year and a half. More than that. And not one person said there was any love from anybody. You know, in other words, you have hundreds of people and you see it in the movies where somebody's a prisoner and somebody's helping. You even see it with Germany, where people would be led into a house and live in an attic in secret. You know, you'd see signs of stuff. I said, did you see anything like, did they wink at you? Did they say, don't worry, you're going to be OK? I never received -- I asked that question all the time. I've never received one answer that said, yes, they really wanted to help. No, the hatred is just incredible.

STARMER: Yes.

REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) access to food issue, what -- what more can Israel do (INAUDIBLE) as well?

TRUMP: Well, I think Israel can do a lot. I -- I will say that Iran, I think, interjected themselves in this last negotiation. Can you imagine the beating they took? We wiped out their nuclear possibilities. They can start again. If they do, we'll wipe it out faster than you can wave your finger at it. We'll have to do that. We will do that gladly. Openly and gladly.

They've been saying -- Iran's been sending out bad signals, I'll tell you. For a country that just got wiped out, they've been sending very bad signals. Very nasty signals. And they shouldn't be doing that. They shouldn't be doing that.

They were talking about things that they shouldn't be talking about. They were interviewed on a recent show and the foreign minister saying things that he shouldn't be talking about, shouldn't be saying. And I think they got involved in this negotiation telling Hamas and giving Hamas signals and orders. And that's not good. That's not good.

STARMER: Yes, I -- I would like to say, look, we need to get the hostages out. They've been held for a very, very long time. And we must always start from there.

But also recognize the situation on the ground in Gaza is absolutely intolerable. And I think that, certainly speaking for the British public and myself, seeing those images of starving children in particular are revolting. And there's a sense of revulsion in the British public at what they're seeing. And they know, and we know, that humanitarian aid needs to get in at speed, at volume. Yes, some could be airdropped, and we're working with others, with the U.S., with Jordan, on that. But the trucks need to get in because that's the only way you can get the volume in.

And we do thank the president for the work he's done to try to get to a ceasefire, which we desperately need, but also to put aid in to the region. There needs to be much more of that. We need to galvanize other countries in support of getting that aid in.

And, yes, that does involve putting pressure on Israel because it absolutely is a humanitarian catastrophe now.

We also need to look beyond that situation to what then happens in the event of a ceasefire, which is desperately needed. And that's why I'm really pleased that we are having a discussion about what a peace plan would look like. After that, the component parts of that. And we have to be really clear at this point that Hamas can play absolutely no part in any future governance in Palestine. And that's -- and in Gaza. And it's really important that we're clear about what triggered this, who took the hostages, and calling out Hamas for what they are, which is a terrorist organization. But I think today the focus has to be on getting that humanitarian aid in.

TRUMP: Uh-huh. (CROSS TALK)

REPORTER: Will the U.K. avoid your pharmaceutical tariffs and will it happen before August the 1st?

TRUMP: Well, we'll be announcing our pharmaceuticals sometime in the very near future. We have a very big plan on pharmaceuticals. We want to bring a lot of the pharmaceuticals back to America where, you know, where they should be.

If you look at Covid, it sort of taught us a lesson. We were getting our pharmaceuticals from other countries. We almost didn't make any. We used to make them ourselves. And we're going to want to be making a lot of them ourselves. All of them in a sense.

But you also have a good pharmaceutical business.

STARMER: Yes.

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TRUMP: We'll be dealing with you on pharmaceuticals also. And we certainly feel a lot better with your country working on pharmaceuticals for America than some of the other countries that were with -- the relationship we have. You would not use that as a cudgel. You wouldn't be using it as a -- as a block.

But we're going to be announcing sometime very soon, I think, pharmaceuticals. Our -- our whole thing. And the companies know, and drug prices are going to be coming down very substantially in the U.S. Very, very substantially. And that will happen very soon.

REPORTER: Mr. President --

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No, go ahead, please. Hold it.

REPORTER: Mr. President, we can all sense your frustration with Vladimir Putin. We can all sense your frustration with Vladimir Putin.

TRUMP: Yes.

REPORTER: Do you think he's been lying to you about his intentions (INAUDIBLE)?

TRUMP: Well, I don't want to use the word lying. All I know is we'd have a good talk, and it seemed on, let's say, three occasions it seemed that we were going to have a -- a ceasefire and maybe peace. And you divide it up and you do whatever you have to do that, obviously, to get to the end. And all of a sudden missiles are flying into Kyiv and other places. And I say, what's that all about? I spoke to him three, four hours ago and it looked like we were on our way. And then I'd say, forget it. And I'm not going to talk anymore.

You know, this has happened on too many occasions, and I don't like it. I don't like it.

REPORTER: Mr. President --

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REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) successful social media site. There are new powers here to censor your site. States (INAUDIBLE) --

TRUMP: To censor my site?

REPORTER: To censor your site. I (INAUDIBLE) --

TRUMP: You mean Truth? Truth Social?

REPORTER: I mean Truth. Is that (INAUDIBLE)?

TRUMP: Well, I don't think he's going to censor my site because I say only good things --

STARMER: No, no, no, no, no.

TRUMP: Will you please uncensor my site?

STARMER: Yes, we're not -- we're not censoring anyone. We've got some measures which are there to protect children, in particular from sites like suicide sites. We've had too many cases in the United Kingdom of young children taking their own lives. And when you look through their social media, they've been accessing sites which talk about suicide and, you know, encouraging, if you like, children down that road. And that is what we want to stop. Nothing about censoring free speech.

REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE).

STARMER: But this -- this country is the proud -- free speech in this country has been for a very long time. We're very, very proud of it. We will protect it forever. But at the same time, I personally feel very strongly that we should protect our young teenagers, and that's what it usually is, from things like suicide sites. I don't see that as a free speech issue. I see that as a child protection issue.

TRUMP: We actually passed a bill in Congress, headed up by my wife, actually --

STARMER: Yes.

TRUMP: Which was to pull bad stuff out --

STARMER: Yes.

TRUMP: Having to do with children, because it is a problem. But I cannot imagine him censoring Truth Social. That's more of a very political and -- and, you know, it's been a very big success.

STARMER: Not going to happen.

TRUMP: And I only say good things about him and his country. So, (INAUDIBLE), to me, you're making a mistake. I have -- I'm going to give my ambassador the job, make sure it's not censored.

STARMER: It's not happening.

TRUMP: I had -- I had not heard that.

(CROSS TALK)

REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) big investor in this area, Mr. President.

TRUMP: Say it?

REPORTER: You're a big investor in this area (INAUDIBLE).

TRUMP: To put it mildly.

REPORTER: To put it mildly.

TRUMP: Like this ballroom that we built from scratch.

REPORTER: Do you worry, though, about the -- the risk of increased taxes here? Will that stop you from investing? And do you have a message last night (ph) on the soccer to the English lionesses who won the European trophy?

TRUMP: So, I think that I have a theory that low taxes bring growth. We just passed a big tax cut bill, the biggest bill in the history of our country, actually. And one big, beautiful bill. I used to call it the great one. Big, beautiful. We took the word great out. But it's actually called the one big, beautiful bill. It's -- it's essentially a very large tax cut bill for everybody.

And our country's -- pretty soon, I think I can say, I think I can say it right now, our country has never done better. We had a country that was dead. It was dead six months ago, a year ago. Leaders from NATO, when I -- we had a very successful meeting at NATO.

STARMER: Yes, very good. Yes.

TRUMP: Your prime minister was there. It was an unbelievable love fest with all of those countries. And they agreed to go 5 percent and all the things. Very smart to do. But many of the leaders said, you know, essentially they said, your country was dead one year ago. One year ago we had a dead -- and we did, we had a dead country. We had a president who didn't know where the hell he was. We had horrible, horrible people running our country. I think they were sick people, actually. Sick.

You talk about censorship. That's -- those are big -- that's all they did was censor. They didn't know what to do. And they had high taxes. They wanted more tax, total censorship, transgender for everybody, men playing in women's sports. Everything bad they wanted, and they still do. That's what they still do. That's why they're down at 15 percent or something I saw today. The lowest that the other part of the Democrats have ever been.

[09:20:03] But no, I -- I think -- I find that when you lower taxes, you get growth.

I -- I will say, this area -- and the prime minister hasn't been here very long, in all fairness. I think he'll -- he'll be a tax cutter. But I find that as we cut taxes, we did more business.

STARMER: Yes.

TRUMP: You know, in my first tax bill, we cut taxes from 39 percent down to 22 percent. And we ended up at the end of the first year, the first year, when it was still a little raw, we ended up taking in much more revenue than we did at 39 percent. It was pretty amazing. And we're taking in a lot of revenue right now. And this was an additional tax cut. So, I find, for whatever it's worth, tax cuts are very good.

STARMER: Yes.

(CROSS TALK)

REPORTER: Mr. President, you moved up the deadline to have 10 or 12 days. Is the sanction the same, that you're going to slap a 100 percent tariff on anybody who does business with Russia? What's the (INAUDIBLE)?

TRUMP: So, what I'm doing is, we're going to do secondary sanctions. It's -- unless we make a deal. And we might make a deal. I don't know. I -- you don't know. It's -- we've done so many peace deals. This is the one I started out with. And, you know, this is -- I know President Putin called me. He wanted to know if I could help him with Iran. I said, no, I don't need your help with Iran, I need your help with Russia. And -- so that's the one deal that continues to linger.

And, you know, were losing 5,000 -- they're losing, I'm not losing, you're not losing, but 5,000 Russian and Ukrainian kids a week are dying. And that's not mentioning the people that are dying also in towns where, you know, he's lobbing missiles into certain towns like Kyiv. And he's got to make a deal. It's -- it's -- too many people are dying.

It's a really bloody war. And -- and the five are now, they're really telling me that number is obsolete. It's like seven.

STARMER: That's terrible.

TRUMP: So, you have 7,000 Russian and Ukrainian soldiers dying every single week for no reason whatsoever. So, you would think, based on common sense, you would think he'd want to make a deal. We'll find out.

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REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) publicly? Have you had any other (INAUDIBLE) channels, conversations with the Russians (INAUDIBLE)?

TRUMP: in what? REPORTER: Reiterating -- reiterating this new pressure and deadline?

TRUMP: You know, we're going to have -- yes. I mean, well, you're the press. I'm reiterating it to you. Yes, I'd say 10 to 12 days. I'll announce it probably tonight or tomorrow.

But there's no reason to wait. If you know what the answer is going to be, why wait? And it would be sanctions and maybe tariffs. Secondary tariffs. You know what a secondary tariff is. And, look, the Russian -- I don't want to do that to Russia. I love the Russian people. They're great people. I don't want to do that to Russia. But this -- this thing -- they're losing a lot of Russians. They've lost a million Russians. And that's the, you know, sons. That's the sons and daughters of Russian families. They leave the house. They go, bye, mom, bye, dad, and then they get blown away.

And Ukrainian too. Look what -- look at Ukraine. It's a disaster what's happened there. But it continues to go on. As you know, we made a deal where the European Union is essentially involved, but it's NATO and we're -- we're supplying weapons to NATO. NATO is now paying because the United States, because of Biden, is in for $350 billion. The European nations are in for about $100 billion. Should be the opposite way, by the way, because we have a big ocean in between. It should be the opposite way. But I -- I think that eventually something's going to happen. It should happen fast.

So many people are dying. You know, when I settled out with Congo and Rwanda, they lost almost 8 million people. And it just made so much sense. And if I didn't get involved, they wouldn't have done it. They weren't even thinking about settling it. It was just going on forever. And nobody could go into those territories because they'd get killed. They'd get killed. And now they have a -- I hear it's a whole different ballgame. We settled it.

This is one that should be settled, Russia, Ukraine. This is one that really should be settled.

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REPORTER: Scotland's first minister has today set out his plans for a second referendum on Scottish independence. Can I get your reaction to that, sir? Someone with deep ties to (INAUDIBLE). (INAUDIBLE), Prime Minister, can I also get your thoughts on that? (INAUDIBLE) majority in next year's election, then they have a right to hold a referendum, do they not?

TRUMP: Well, I don't want to get involved in politics. We got enough politics of our own.

I will say that I -- I predicted what was going to happen the last time, you remember? I was opening the first course over at Aberdeen and I was over here and at the same time, and they asked me that question, and I made a prediction.

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It was the day before the vote. And I made a correct. I like to be correct, but I made a correct prediction. I don't know.

I do say that when they made that deal, somebody said that it was, and I remember this very distinctly, I said, could they do this all the time? There was a little bit of a restriction, like 50 or 75 years before you could take another vote, because, you know, a country can't go through that too much. I don't know the first minister, but I've heard great things about him. I've spoken to him. I hear very good things about him. And I'm meeting him today. So, maybe I'll have a better opinion then (ph).

STARMER: Let me answer that straightforwardly, because I believe in a stronger Scotland in a better United Kingdom. And I think that, at a time like this, when it's quite clear that there's uncertainty and volatility around the world. The strength of the United Kingdom together is very important for all four nations. Very important for Scotland. And that should be our priority. That should be our focus. Not on the politics, which feels like the politics of yesteryear now at a time like this. And I think that, you know, like, the first minister should probably focus more on his delivery in Scotland than on his constitutional issues, and we might have a better health service in Scotland.

But at a time like this, I think the United Kingdom is always stronger as four nations. I think that's better for all four nations. I think that's how Scotland is stronger.

Look at -- look at the deal that we've been able to do with the United States. A really important deal that we made just months ago. That is what the United Kingdom can do when we act as a powerful set of four nations together. And there are very many other examples.

REPORTER: Mr. President --

REPORTER: Mr. President --

REPORTER: Mr. President, you toured the Federal Reserve last week.

TRUMP: I did.

REPORTER: And it's set to meet this week. Do you think your visit has inspired a potential rate cut, or how do you (INAUDIBLE)?

TRUMP: Well, it's interesting, I did tour -- I toured the building. And if you looked at this building, if you came here like 14, 15 years ago, we've had it a long time. It's been an honor to have Turnberry. But I was on much more opulent walls, ceilings, floors. We had to do this. And we did a very great job. I mean you see how beautiful it is inside. Everything was saved. Everything was preserved. We had ceilings that were in bad shape. They were falling down. And, you know, it's very old. Wasn't properly maintained. Now it's brand new and beautiful. And we saved everything.

The -- the -- if you really think here, you took a look and you were sort of commenting to coloring the -- now, this is a brand new building. But if you look outside, it's equally opulent and beautiful. And we didn't do that by spending, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in surrounding a railing underneath an area that you're painting. I mean, I saw -- I've never seen anything like it. Brand new, beautiful plywood, very expensive, wrapped around a figurine or a railing to preserve it. But you don't have to do that. You can just wrap it in cloth. They call it a blanket. And you don't even have to do that if you're careful when you're doing the ceiling. But I don't know what they did. They'd take down a ceiling and put up a new ceiling. And the new ceiling had no opulence to it. Or they'd fixed the ceiling.

But I -- I would say that all I need is a good plaster and a can of paint. And, you know, they spent $3.9 billion. And I spent a lot of money, too, but it's -- it's -- I'd say three point -- I would say $3.8 billion less, you know. Meaning, I spent probably $100 million making this place incredible.

STARMER: And you were saying a lot of that was local trades people. This is -- we're looking at the --

TRUMP: I used local trades.

STARMER: Windows I think in the next -- the next room, we were look at --

TRUMP: I had local trades do a lot of this.

STARMER: Yes.

TRUMP: We had -- we have the most opulent windows next door. And I had a choice. Do I take them out? And, you know, they -- they suffered through 125 years of storms. You have very big storms in this area.

STARMER: Yes.

TRUMP: When you have a storm, you have a storm.

STARMER: We do, properly.

TRUMP: And they made it, barely. But they were in bad shape. So, I had some local people come up and -- and we looked at them. You have some great craftsmen here, I think is what you're getting at.

STARMER: Yes.

TRUMP: And they said, sir, honestly, they've had it. We can copy it and do it much better. And they did. If you take a look at the windows in the various dining rooms, they're magnificent. And they're new and they're much better looking than what was there. Same exact look other than a much higher quality.

REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE).

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TRUMP: And -- and they're local people. I used a lot of your local people. You have -- you have really great