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Federal Judge Keeps Restrictions on Ice Agents in Chicago, Calls Trump Administration's Statements Not Credible; Key Senators Hold Intense Negotiations to Reopen Government; Trump Administration to Cut Flights at 40 Airports Starting Tomorrow; Trump Says GOP Must Talk More About Affordability. Aired 1:30-2p ET

Aired November 06, 2025 - 13:30   ET

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PRISCILLA ALVAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: -- micromanaging the situation and Judge Ellis confronted that head on during this hearing and said, I am doing no such thing with this injunction. instead, she said that federal agents must give at least two separate warnings before issuing riot control weapons with "reasonable opportunity" for people to comply. So clearly, the judge is trying to set out here how federal agents should use these weapons if they feel the need to use them, because thus far, what she has seen and heard through the evidence in this hearing does not comport with what federal agents have said.

So this seems to go the step further of saying there needs to be an opportunity for people to disperse or to comply if they're going to deploy this, this is going to be an ongoing battle. Certainly, she said there will be a written order in this case to follow because all of this was oral. But certainly, this is not going to let up anytime soon. And she made it clear that she just does not buy the government's arguments here.

ERICA HILL, CNN CO-ANCHOR OF "CNN NEWS CENTRAL": Wow. Really something. All right, Priscilla, appreciate it. Thank you. Still ahead here, President Trump says the affordability issue is dead, even though many voters in this week's election signaled it is in fact a top issue for them in this moment. We'll speak with a Republican about what his constituents are saying, next.

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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CO-ANCHOR OF "CNN NEWS CENTRAL": We're now on Day 37 of the longest government shutdown in American history. But now, some potential movement as lawmakers are pushing to make a deal to end the standoff. Multiple sources from both parties say key Senators are holding intense negotiations right now with the hope of announcing a path forward by the end of the week. Major sticking points still remain. That includes how and when lawmakers would vote on the expiring Obamacare subsidies at the core of Democrats' demands.

We have Republican Congressman Bryan Steil of Wisconsin joining us now to talk a little bit about this. OK, there does seem to be this movement in discussions in the House and the Senate. How much momentum is this? Is this real? Do you think this is going to end soon?

REP. BRYAN STEIL, (R-WI): Well, the consequences of the Chuck Schumer shutdown have continued to build and the chaos grows, and I'm hopeful that this is resolved sooner rather than later. The spending process in D.C. has been broken for decades, and the off ramp has historically been a clean CR. That was the starting point for House Republicans. We passed this well over a month ago, but I think as we get into tomorrow and into the weekend, the consequences will dramatically build with air traffic control and a reduction in flights.

More individuals who are finding out that they don't have funding on their food stamp benefits and more individuals such as Capitol Police tomorrow, not receiving a second or a third paycheck. The sooner we get out of this and begin negotiations on fiscal year '26 approps as well as other policy priorities, the better off the nation is.

KEILAR: We've seen a lot of shutdowns in recent years, and we've certainly gone to the precipice of a whole lot of them. But nonetheless, so you think that this reduction in flights is going to kick in. It sounds like you are -- your district is right across the street, I think, from the Milwaukee Airport. Is that right?

STEIL: Yeah.

KEILAR: So, there's -- this is going to have a trickledown effect. What is that going to look like?

STEIL: Well, it's going to be chaos across the skies and that's going to continue to build. 10 percent flight reduction is like a giant snowstorm. And so the --

KEILAR: It's worse, right?

STEIL: And the ripple through the air traffic is going to be felt by countless people. But that's only one example of the chaos. It's the families that aren't receiving their full SNAP benefits due to the shutdown. It's families who are working and not getting paid from Capitol Police to Border Patrol, and our troops are at risk of not receiving pay once again. And so, the consequences of this build is the chaos build. The pressure needs to build on the Senate and the Senate Democrats to stop filibustering the clean CR that the House passed now over a month ago.

KEILAR: They're talking about a standalone vote on subsidies in the House, this bipartisan proposal that's being discussed is about extending the subsidies for two years, capping the income between $200,000 and $400,000. Which do you prefer?

STEIL: Well, I think there should be dramatic reforms inside the Affordable Care Act, premium subsidies as designed by Democrats. Those payments go directly into insurance companies. We know --

KEILAR: But for this -- the purposes of this off ramp that has to get done here as soon as possible.

STEIL: Well, we'll see what the negotiations come out of the Senate. What I'm offering is there needs to be dramatic reforms inside the program for us to move forward with this. The challenge that we see is we know there's significant waste, fraud, and abuse. And in particular, there's insurance companies taking advantage of the mechanisms that the Democrats put in place for them to receive those payments.

And so, I'm open to the idea of having these conversations and negotiations. We've said, let's do that without the brinkmanship, as the government is open and operational. We'll see what the negotiations come out of the Senate. The sooner the Senate gets a way and we break the Democratic filibuster on this legislation, the better off we're going to be. We'll see what the legislation is.

KEILAR: Affordability, which is I think what gets to the point of these ACA subsidies. And that's why it has resonated with people. That was really what we saw coming out of the election results this week. The president has talked a lot about it. He actually responded last night when he was asked by a Republican Trump voter, who said Wall Street numbers do not reflect my Main Street money. Please do something, President Trump. And here's part of his answer to Fox.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I do say this, beef, we have to get down, in terms -- I think of groceries, it's an old fashioned word, but it's a beautiful word. Beef, we have to get down, but we've got prices way down.

BRET BAIER, CHIEF POLITICAL ANCHOR & EXECUTIVE EDITOR, FOX NEWS: You think prices are coming down from this?

TRUMP: We believe that. Yeah. I think they're coming down, but I think they're down already. I think the biggest problem is Republicans don't talk about it. They don't talk about the word affordability and the Democrats lie about it.

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KEILAR: Bret asked him to clarify. Prices are not down on what he's talking about. They're not coming down. You must be hearing this from people in your district.

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STEIL: Yeah, we still have an opportunity to make life more affordable, but a lot of progress has been made from deregulation to energy policy. When we think about groceries, one of the biggest drivers is the cost of diesel fuel. It's a tractor in the field during the harvest. It's a truck bringing those goods to the grocery store. That -- the energy policy that we have put in place with the Trump administration is beginning to reduce those prices and a massive shift from where we were during the Biden Administration.

KEILAR: Where is it beginning to reduce those prices?

STEIL: Well, I think you see oil prices coming down dramatically. Diesel prices --

KEILAR: No, you said groceries. You said it's beginning to reduce those prices, groceries.

STEIL: It's -- it will flow through the process, as those energy prices come down for our farmers. I don't offer that we are where we need to be at the end result. I offer that one of the largest drivers inside grocery prices is diesel cost.

KEILAR: How long will that take? Because groceries have been up every month since the start of Trump's presidency.

STEIL: Yeah, this is about reforming energy policies that the Biden administration was disastrous on for four years. It takes a period of time for the deregulation to get to the wellhead, to get that oil and gas online and driving prices further down. Making sure that diesel prices and gas prices are lower is one of the largest drivers to bring down grocery costs for American families.

KEILAR: He's saying that they are down. Is that -- I mean, when -- there was a problem with the way President Biden would talk about the economic picture and that was that when he messaged about it, he was saying something that people were not feeling because things were costing so much, because of inflation. And even as inflation slowed, people were still paying so much and it was incredibly painful. Right? And that was the lesson I think, for everyone coming out of that election.

The president is now saying that the costs are down, but they're not. Is that a problem for Republicans to be misrepresenting the economic picture that Americans cannot escape from? They feel it every moment of every day.

STEIL: Life is too expensive and we need to continue to work to put forward policies that makes it more affordable. Energy policy, deregulation, the administration and Republicans have done a lot in that regard. Tax reductions in the One Big Beautiful Bill, but making sure that those get all the way across the line and we continue to find ways to reduce costs is going to have to be front and center of our agenda.

KEILAR: Congressman Bryan Steil, thank you so much for coming in studio. Really appreciate it.

STEIL: Thank you.

KEILAR: And still ahead, we do have our first image of that voice recorder and the flight data recorder that were picked up from that deadly UPS crash in Louisville. Ahead, how this key evidence could help investigators find out what went wrong.

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HILL: We have some newly obtained footage showing the moments before that UPS cargo plane crashed in Louisville on Tuesday. And before we do show you those images, I do want to warn you, the video itself is disturbing. It was captured on a dashcam and so, here it is, as the plane -- look at that, as the plane is going down, you might have been able to tell there the left engine on that plane already gone. Here it is again.

Investigators say it actually detached during takeoff. The crash itself has killed at least 12 people, destroyed businesses understandably. This morning, the NTSB releasing a photo of the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder that were both recovered. CNN's Leigh Waldman has more now and the latest.

LEIGH WALDMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We heard from Louisville's mayor today, he shared the number of dead as a result of this tragic crash is holding at 12. The coroner has removed those 12 bodies from the airfield behind us. And now, the work is being done to identify those remains, give some closure to the families. What else is happening on the debris field, the half-mile long debris field?

The NTSB is conducting what's called a de-layering search. They're sifting through that debris layer by layer, trying to unveil any clues that they can, that can tell them what went wrong on Tuesday that led to this fiery crash. We're also hearing from people who have businesses or live in this area. One man who owns a recycling plant nearby, he talked about how upset he is about what happened. Take a listen.

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SEAN GARBER, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, GRADE A RECYCLING: One of our managers dove in the center of -- between two bales and he had a ball of fire go over the top of him. And then he got up and ran out and he was very heroic because one of our customers was 95 percent burnt and he picked him up and brought him to safety.

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WALDMAN: We know the NTSB has found the black boxes in connection with this plane. They suffered some heat damage, but we're still able to gather data from those black boxes. The mayor also shared the number of people still missing right now is holding at nine. That's down from the 15 who were reported missing earlier. A bright spot of news we're getting, six people were found alive. Back to you.

KEILAR: Our thanks to Leigh Waldman for that report. And now to some of the other headlines that we're watching this hour, at least seven New York City firefighters are recovering after a car on fire sparked a huge explosion in the Bronx creating this, just a wall of fire.

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CROWD: Oh.

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KEILAR: That sent debris flying into the air and onto the street. And some firefighters suffered burns to their hands and faces. But fortunately, they're all expected to make a full recovery. Officials say it's not clear what started the fire.

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Also, Typhoon Kalmaegi made landfall in central Vietnam overnight after killing 114 people in the Philippines. The typhoon is one of the strongest on record to hit Vietnam. The storm was expected to bring strong winds and heavy rainfall to an area already saturated by heavy rains last week. Meantime, in the Philippines, the storm reduced entire neighborhoods to rubble and it has displaced tens of thousands of people.

And the Associated Press reports the FDA has sent warning letters to more than a dozen websites selling fake or unapproved versions of Botox and other injectable drugs used to smooth wrinkles. These letters were sent after the agency received reports of injuries in connection with the products, including toxic side effects. Even FDA- approved Botox carries the agency's most serious warning as the medication can have life-threatening side effects such as botulism.

And still ahead, travel turmoil is about to get a whole lot worse. With no deal to reopen the government, the Trump administration is set to cut flights at 40 of the nation's busiest airports.

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KEILAR: In today's Home Front, even before the shutdown, food insecurity was an issue for America's military families, one in four facing the prospect of not having enough to eat. And now, after 37 days with the government shuttered, it is a full-blown crisis for many service members and their families as they worry that they will not get paid. Several groups coming to the rescue with groceries, but there's a limit to what they can do to help.

I'm joined now by Shannon Razsadin, CEO of the Military Family Advisory Network, one of the groups working to make sure that no family goes hungry. Shannon, thanks for being with us. MFAN launched this grocery support initiative on October 14th. You received 50,000 requests from military families in less than three days. That really speaks to the demand here.

SHANNON RAZSADIN, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, MILITARY FAMILY ADVISORY NETWORK: It really does. And it tells us that a lot of military families are really living paycheck to paycheck. And so, this need is incredible. We are overwhelmed by the response that we've had and the stories that we're hearing from families are frankly heartbreaking. And so, we're doing everything we possibly can. We're hoping that Americans will join us in this effort to make sure that we can provide as much food as we possibly can to the families who need it.

KEILAR: What are you hearing? What are those heartbreaking stories that you're hearing? RAZSADIN: We're hearing from people at the grocery store and going through checkout and having to put things back. We're hearing from moms saying to their kids, we don't have any snacks this week. We're hearing from service members who are deployed, asking if we're going to be able to get groceries to their spouses and their kids who are back home, and not sure if they're going to have that paycheck hit the account. And so it's real panic and it's something that we could not sit with as an organization. And so, we're leaning in and doing everything we possibly can. But simply put, we can't do it without the funding to meet this need, and the need is vast.

KEILAR: So service members, we should mention, they have so far been getting their paychecks during the shutdown, but they're not always expecting it. Right? Sometimes it's just a few days out. They're getting this last-minute reprieve. And people are prepping because they have to just in case. Talk to us about that and how these food deliveries -- tell us what's in them that is helping them prep just in case they don't get paid.

RAZSADIN: Yeah, and I want to point out that the Guard & Reserve community, in many cases, have not received pay. And so, they're the ones who are, in a lot of cases, feeling the pinch in a big way right now because their drills were canceled. And so, we have triaged our support based on where we're seeing the need. But like you said, the need is vast and the military is always taught to prepare and they're preparing right now for so many unknown variables.

And so, the food we're providing is enough shelf staple food items for a family of four for a week, along with a grocery store gift card because we know that there are some dietary things that people need to pick out on their own. And so, we're putting that food in a box. We have an incredible partner at Moja Foods down in Houston, Texas, and we have shipped thousands, around 6,500 so far. But we have a long way to go and we're really hoping that people will get involved and donate if they're able to.

KEILAR: Who's eligible to request this?

RAZSADIN: Right now, the application is paused while we work to meet the need of the 50,000 who have applied. But this is only open for active-duty Guard and Reserve families within the continental United States. This does not mean that families overseas are not feeling the pinch. Customs makes it really tricky situation as far as how we can get food to those families, but we're actively working on it with our partners because we know that those families are really feeling this as well.

KEILAR: Look, and as we said, this isn't just a shutdown thing, right? It's kind of bringing into relief what is a reality for military -- so many military families. What needs to be done about what's really a chronic problem?

RAZSADIN: We have to look at the pay and compensation of our service members. We know that in the United States, it really requires two incomes to sustain a household. With frequent moves and military spouse unemployment sitting between 21 and 24 percent for the last 15 years, we know this is a complex --