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FBI Releases Guthrie Doorbell Camera Images and Video; Person Questioned and Released in the Guthrie Case; U.S. Economy Adds 130,000 Jobs; Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) is Interviewed about Bondi and El Paso Flight Restrictions; School Shooting in Canada; South Carolina Supreme Court to Hear Murdaugh Appeal. Aired 8:30-9a ET

Aired February 11, 2026 - 08:30   ET

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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Breaking overnight, investigators have released a person who was briefly detained and questioned about the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. The man later told reporters he's innocent, was released without any charges, and he didn't even know who Nancy Guthrie is.

All of this comes after the FBI released new video, new images from Nancy Guthrie's doorbell camera that show a masked armed person on her porch the night that she disappeared.

CNN's Josh Campbell has much more on this.

Josh, what are you hearing from your sources about the man that was detained, questioned and released, and about this break in the case with this surveillance video?

JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Well, we're still waiting to learn exactly how that individual got on the radar of law enforcement. We know that this was a traffic stop that was done south of Tucson last night. This person was detained and questioned and then released. But again, the big question still about why they're -- authorities may have believed that there was some type of association with this case. Still waiting for additional answers there.

As far as the video that was released yesterday, this is the most significant development to date in the search for Nancy Guthrie. Up to this point, authorities have been asking the public essentially in the abstract, if you know anything about what happened, if you saw anything, please call us. But in this chilling new video, this is something that people can actually see for themselves. A person who arrived at the Guthrie residence just before her disappearance. You see this person dressed with a -- what looks like a ski mask. He's clothed from head to toe. He has a backpack. And there's a firearm on his waist.

Now, authorities say that the camera itself was taken by, they believe, this individual. But authorities working with Google were able to resurrect some of this footage, which now we can see for ourselves. The hope by authorities is that someone will see this person and recognize any characteristic about them to include how they walk. You know, all of our gaits are unique. And someone looking at this may say, well, I know who this person is.

We also know that authorities are scrutinizing all of the items that you see there on him to include the jacket, the backpack, the ski mask. Typically in these cases, authorities would be working backwards to determine how were those items actually obtained, going so far as to canvass the makers, the makers of those items, to determine if they can find out when the actual point of sale happened, which then could glean financial records to help identify this person.

So, it's essentially at least a two-fold effort right now. There is this public appeal that's going on. They want as many eyes on this video as possible. If people have tips, they want you to call the FBI. But a lot of work going on behind the scenes as well, Kate.

BOLDUAN: Absolutely. For sure. This certain -- you know, definitely happening behind the scenes.

It's great to see you, Josh. Thank you so much for your -- for your great reporting.

John.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: With us now, CNN legal analyst and criminal defense attorney Joey Jackson. Also with us, a former hostage negotiator for the FBI, Chip Massey.

Gentlemen, great to see both of you, because we have a number of developments this morning.

First, Joey, the news overnight. Authorities had been questioning someone. They had detained and were questioning an individual that they then released. There were also searches that may have been associated with this individual. OK, this person has been released. What does that tell you from a legal standpoint?

JOEY JACKSON, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: I mean, listen, investigations are very thorough. There's due diligence that, you know, investigators use. And not often do you have situations where there's a, you know, sometimes it becomes problematic, right? You have a person who, for whatever reason they focused on, they felt that this was the person, that they had information and that was their man. It was not.

But what I would do is I would encourage people to say, listen, lets regroup. Let's determine where it is that we could find the person who could possibly be out there to do this.

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There's this video that's there. And I think that that's very telling as to body weight, height, et cetera, body size.

BERMAN: Yes. JACKSON: And so that could be significant.

BERMAN: Just, from a legal standpoint though, Joey, what's the legal standard to start questioning this person and what's the legal standard to then say, you know what, we can't talk to him anymore?

JACKSON: So, listen, you need reasonable suspicion, right? We live in the United States of America. We have a Constitution. And based upon that, you just don't approach someone for no basis, purpose or reason. You have to have some reasonable suspicion, some articulable basis to believe that there's criminality. What that was, we don't know. We heard Josh Campbell speak to that issue, that it hasn't been released, what specific, identifiable information led to this person. But you're going to have hits. You're going to have misses. It's not the end of the world. They will regroup and they will otherwise determine who else it possibly could have been.

BERMAN: All right, Chip, then moving on, or actually, frankly, moving backwards to the video that we've all seen here. You are, or someone who has been a hostage negotiator. Whoever has kidnaped Nancy Guthrie, in theory, now knows there's a video of him out there. So, how does that change the way the FBI tries to interact with this person in whatever way they can?

CHIP MASSEY, FORMER FBI HOSTAGE NEGOTIATOR: Oh, exactly, right? The game has changed for certain. The ground has shifted. Because it -- what we call this is FUD, fear, uncertainty and doubt, right? Is that the family had to deal with the fear. You know, is my mother going to be OK? Ransom notes with deadlines create fear. There's the uncertainty. The uncertainty is, we have no proof of life. Nothing to tell us that our mother's still OK. And then there's the doubt. The doubt is, how is this going to get resolved?

Now, this is the thing with FUD, fear, uncertainty and doubt, it cuts both ways now. Now it's on the captor. The captor, now we've got this video. Huge amount of information, right? We have -- we have pictures of the gloves, of the jacket, of the -- of the jeans, of the boots. And like Joey said, we've got a good now size, height, weight likely on this.

So, this man now, his world has collapsed around him. He now is under a microscope. He's got fear. Fear. Who's going to turn me in? Who's going to drop a dime on me? Who can -- who can come forward? Uncertainty. Am I going to get what I want? And the doubt. Am I going to prison or am I going to get a payday?

BERMAN: So, if you're the FBI, knowing that the FUD, as you put it, has now shifted to this individual, do you feel you have to move more quickly? Does that person get more desperate? Do you do more overt overtures?

MASSEY: Well, like Joey knows, you know, desperate people do desperate things, right? So, what we would want him to do, and in the case that he's hearing us right now is, take care of her. That's his number one priority. And call. But, yes, he's going to be desperate. He's going to make mistakes now. Whoever -- and whoever might be working with him is going to make mistakes. The law enforcement, working shoulder and shoulder, they're going to capitalize on those things.

BERMAN: Joey, one of the things that jumped out to me from the images that we saw, there was the gun. There was the backpack, the gloves, the shoes. But also possibly a cell phone, right, wedged into his pocket.

Now, you can ping and do all kinds of searches for cell phones. What are the legal ramifications or standards you need to try to start searching and identifying a specific phone that might have been in a certain area.

JACKSON: Well, they're doing it. What happens is, is that law enforcement certainly is using that as a vehicle. And let's understand that there's a number of pieces here. Cell phone is one, very significant portion. They certainly went into that home and looked for all types of DNA, John. They did that, right? DNA, of course, the obvious, the blood, skin cell, footprint, handprint, et cetera. We know that they also went into that septic tank because people flush things, right? And when you flush things, you -- that's one of the mistakes that you were talking about, Chip, right?

But in addition to that, now you have the cell phone triangulation. Why is that significant? Investigators certainly have probable cause to do all of that because you have an 84-year-old missing. Time is of the essence.

What's -- what I'm thinking, though, is that if this person did plan this, did they plan so much as to know that she needed medication, that she used medication? Do they have that? And all -- remember this, there's an imperative for her to be safe. Why? Because if she's not safe, you don't get paid.

BERMAN: Right.

JACKSON: But in terms of that cell phone, we have reached an era from a technological perspective where if there was a cell phone there, they can track it, triangulate it to that specific area. Not only to that day, but if she was under surveillance at some prior time, and that was the individual who did it, they'd be able to track that too. So, there's reason to be hopeful, notwithstanding the fact that the person who was detained had to be released.

BERMAN: Joey Jackson, Chip Massey, thank you both so much. An education. Learned a new term there that I think really actually explains what might be going on here. Appreciate it.

Kate.

BOLDUAN: All right, breaking moments ago, the new data that we were standing by, waiting for this morning, showing -- on the U.S. labor market, showing -- beating expectations, showing the labor market is starting off stronger than expected to kick off the year.

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CNN's Matt Egan has much more. What are you -- what are you learning?

MATT EGAN, CNN SENIOR REPORTER: Well, Kate, look, this is good news.

BOLDUAN: Yes.

EGAN: After a weak 2025, we just learned that the job market started 2026 on a surprisingly positive note. Look at this, 130,000 jobs added in January. That's almost twice as many --

BOLDUAN: I'm going to say, put that in relation to what expectations were before.

EGAN: Expectations were about 75,000.

BOLDUAN: Yes.

EGAN: So, almost twice as strong as expected. Now, the unemployment rate, which is particularly important right now, it was expected to stay at 4.4. It did not. It went down to 4.3 percent, also beating expectations. So, this is a relief because we saw that unemployment rates start to creep higher and higher last summer. It really did start to lead to some significant concerns about the health of the job market. But the fact that it has now stabilized and, in fact, come down in back to back months, that is certainly encouraging.

Now, there were also some revisions to some of the recent months.

BOLDUAN: Which has become a big story is the revisions. So.

EGAN: Yes. Yes. Some of these are the normal revisions that you see all the time each month. November was revised slightly lower by 15,000 to 41,000. December was revised by just a little bit.

Now, the Bureau of Labor Statistics also did some other major revisions, annual revisions and statistical changes. This is a look at the unemployment rate, by the way. And again, you can see how it has started to tick lower, and that is encouraging.

Now, every year the BLS goes through their models and they reconcile those really timely monthly jobs reports that are based on surveys of employers with less timely but more accurate tax records.

BOLDUAN: Right.

EGAN: And as they did those revisions, they confirmed that job growth was a lot slower than originally reported. There was a negative revision of 862,000 on a non-seasonally adjusted basis. It's a big number. It's the biggest since 2009.

BOLDUAN: And that's for what?

EGAN: That's for how many jobs were added. It was 862,000 fewer than originally reported.

Now, it's a big number, but it also -- you got to remember, it's a really big economy. And sometimes when there's changes in the economy, such as the Covid reopening, the immigration surge, the immigration crackdown, there's going to be significant changes in those estimates. Just important to emphasize that this is routine, right? This is a feature, not a bug, in how the government collects data.

BOLDUAN: Right.

EGAN: And it's driven by more complete information.

Now, just looking at some of the sectors in January, health care continues to be such a strong point. So much demand for workers there, 82,000, social assistance, 42,000, construction, significant, 33,000. Also manufacturing bounced back for the first time in many months. Actually gained jobs in January.

So, you put all that together and this is being seen as good news even on Wall Street, where U.S. stock futures are moving solidly higher.

BOLDUAN: Absolutely. All right, Matt, thank you so much for running in.

EGAN: Thanks, Kate.

BOLDUAN: We need that information as quickly as possible. I really appreciate it.

Also joining us right now is CNN global economic analyst Rana Foroohar. She's also global and business columnist and associate editor for the "Financial Times."

Rana, thank you so much for jumping on.

RANA FOROOHAR, CNN GLOBAL ECONOMIC ANALYST: Yes.

BOLDUAN: What's your -- what's your reaction? What do you see in these new numbers.

FOROOHAR: So, you know, Matt's completely right, this is a hot jobs report. I mean there's really nothing in this not to like. You're seeing a lot of sectors that had been softer, like manufacturing, for example, looking better. You're seeing numbers that really nobody expected.

And, you know, that's one of the things, actually, that I find quite interesting about this report. The consensus was unusually all over the place. There were a lot of -- a lot of different banks, a lot of different analysts that watched these numbers. Oftentimes they have roughly the same idea of what's going to happen. That was not true this time.

And I think it speaks to the fact that we are in a very unusual moment. So, I guess my one caveat -- well, I'll give you two caveats to the very good news in this report is that I would want to see another one, maybe a third with similar kind of upward trend before I say, wow, yes, we have a labor market that is, in fact, not softening, it's getting stronger. The other thing I would say though is, even though this is great news on main street, Wall Street likes it, it does make the incoming Fed chair, Kevin Warsh's job a little tougher because it's hard to argue now -- harder to argue for a rate cut.

BOLDUAN: You read my mind. That was my next question.

FOROOHAR: Yes. Yes. I mean it's a really, really tricky thing because if he had seen a kind of -- even a flat jobs number, he probably could have continued to argue, well, you know, we might see labor market softening. Maybe it's a good time for a rate cut. Really tough to make that argument now. And it will be very interesting to see if he does because that will then add more fuel to the politicization of the Fed, to the idea that, well, is the Fed chair independent, or is he going to do the president's bidding and so on and so forth.

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BOLDUAN: I'm going to read -- I'm going to look down to read this just so I get the numbers right because revisions has been a big story over the last 12 months, for sure.

FOROOHAR: Yes.

BOLDUAN: What I'm seeing here, CNN's reporting, the latest annual benchmark, just kind of summarizing what Matt just told us, the benchmark revisions showed that there were 898,000 fewer jobs added between April 2024 and March 2025 on a not seasonally adjusted basis. The downward revision was 862,000.

What is the story with revisions? Like, you see that and you think, what? It spawned a million conspiracy theories, this -- what's been going on with revisions.

FOROOHAR: Yes, it's a -- it's a great question. So, look, well before this Trump administration, well before Trump won, a lot of us that have spent our careers following these numbers have said, look, we need to have some better ways of tabulating data. And that has to do not with conspiracy theories but with the fact that the economy is changing. The way that the BLS measures data, it's -- they're doing the best they can with the numbers that they have. There's nothing -- I don't believe that there's anything political here at all. But we're still measuring widgets. We're measuring, you know, an older economy. And the economy has changed. I mean, you know, the way in which all of us are using data, the way in which we're using A.I., the way in which technology has worked its way into the workforce, the way in which people have second or third side hustles. A lot of this isn't tabulated well in the data.

And so, I think that, you know, I mean, as always Trump, I often say that, you know, he's sometimes the wrong answer to the right questions. Would I have come in and fired the BLS chief, you know, over concerns about data? No. Would I say, we need to think about how we're measuring things, where can we do better, yes, I think we could.

BOLDUAN: It's great to see you, Rana. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

Much more to come on that and also this.

The Murdaugh family saga returns to the courtroom today. Alex Murdaugh is appealing his double murder conviction in front of South Carolina Supreme Court justices. What we expect to hear from his defense team today.

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BOLDUAN: This morning on Capitol Hill, the attorney general of the United States, Pam Bondi, is set to testify before Congress. And she is expected to face tough questions from lawmakers. Bondi is likely to be asked about and will face likely a grilling on a wide range of topics, including the Trump administration's use of federal law enforcement to carry out the president's mass deportation push, his immigration crackdown, the ICE raids, that's one, as well as the president's efforts to seek retribution against his perceived political enemies. This all comes also as Bondi's Justice Department is facing widespread criticism for its handling and slow nature of and how it's all gone down, the Epstein files.

This -- with me now is Democratic congressman from California, Eric Swalwell. He sits on House Judiciary and Homeland Security.

Congressman, thanks for coming in.

REP. ERIC SWALWELL (D-CA): Good morning.

BOLDUAN: You are on the committee you -- that is going to be asking questions of the attorney general today. This is her first time appearing since October. What's your top question?

SWALWELL: It's about accountability. You know, you don't have to be a parent of a little girl to care about sexual assault victims who are trafficked. I am a parent of a little girl, and you can bet I'm going to have questions about, when is justice coming for these victims. Right now the Department of Justice has revictimized these individuals by actually putting their names and their images in these files. And they've done that more than they've sought accountability against their traffickers.

When is accountability coming for the public executions? Yesterday, I asked the director of ICE if anyone has been fired. He refused to tell me. So, right now, it looks like two people have been killed. Zero people have been fired. And where's the accountability on weaponizing the department and going after the president's enemies?

Yesterday, a grand jury failed to indict six members of Congress who made an Instagram video, telling our troops that all they have to do is just follow the law and they try to charge them with seditious conspiracy, something the president said should bring death for them. So, when is accountability finally going to come from the Department of Justice? That's what our constituents want to know.

BOLDUAN: The ICE director, Lyons, said yesterday he'd get back to you with that information in -- with regard to disciplinary action and who's been fired.

SWALWELL: He hasn't. Yes.

BOLDUAN: I assume he has not. When do you expect to get it?

SWALWELL: I'm going to ask every day because these masked thugs are pulling women by their hair through our streets, putting them in unidentified vans, chasing migrants through the fields and the factories where they work. They deported a six-year-old child battling stage four cancer. Nobody asked for this. And there's been no public accountability as far as ICE agents being taken off the job. And so I'm going to keep asking, and the public pressure is going to keep mounting, and people will keep rising up and going to the streets until they feel protected from this community terror.

BOLDUAN: As we saw last time she appeared, she tends to arrive ready to fight. And she -- last time she brought what we would call opposition -- you would call opposition research against to hit back with scripted insults against the lawmakers asking her questions.

What do you do? How are you going to respond when she does do that to you?

SWALWELL: Kate, I've had the administration throw the worst lies at me that their own FBI has had to say is not true. That Kevin McCarthy's ethics committee has had to say is not true. So, I'm a big boy. I've been in this arena for a long time. I know, you know, how to go on offense on behalf of the most vulnerable.

But today, this isn't about, you know, one team scoring points for another team. It's about victims of sexual assault who just want transparency and answers. It's about communities who want the most violent in our communities to be removed and the most peaceful. And those who contribute to be able to stay. And, you know I will seek to have just a frank, candid conversation. But if she wants to, you know, reduce it to what she's done before, as I said, I'm a big boy. I can handle myself.

BOLDUAN: We have breaking news coming in this morning. Airspace around El Paso, Texas, shut down suddenly. El Paso Airport shut down for ten days. The new CNN reporting is, is that this is because of military operations at nearby Briggs Army Airfield.

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And CNN reporting is that the Department of Defense is not -- not being able to assure the safety of civilian aircraft in the area is what led to this unprecedented ten-day shutdown.

You're on the Homeland Security Committee. Are you hearing anything about this?

SWALWELL: I'll seek a briefing on it. I've seen the same news reports that you have seen. You know, obviously, we've seen in the past, you know, in New Jersey and other areas about a year ago, you know, there have been reports of, you know, UAV activity. And, you know, what we want to find out is, you know, is this government activity, you know, is this commercial activity? What is the air traffic issue?

BOLDUAN: No, but our reporting, Congressman, is it is due to military operations is what has led to this unprecedented shutdown. That -- and that is not what we had heard in terms of the case when we're talking about New Jersey. They say this is due to military operations. Do you know of an active military operation ongoing there?

SWALWELL: I don't. I want our military always to be the best trained. I'm not going to jump to conclusions and, you know, create hysteria. But members of Congress should be briefed on it. And it's our job to find out if this is routine training or, you know, we've seen these guys go around what they're supposed to do. They've even prepped to invade Greenland until that was shut down.

So, yes, that's our job is to ask questions. And you've given me an assignment now to go back.

BOLDUAN: Well, there are big questions around this, especially this morning.

Congressman, thank you so much for your time. Going to be facing off with the attorney general in just a few hours.

SWALWELL: My pleasure. Thank you.

BOLDUAN: John.

BERMAN: All right, this morning, Canadian authorities say nine people were killed in a mass shooting at a high school, at a home, dozens more injured. The suspected shooter was found dead.

Let's get right to CNN's Paula Newton for the latest on this horrific incident.

PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, you know, horror, grief doesn't even begin to cover it this morning, John. And this is just such a small community. Let me take you through what happened.

We're talking about northern British Columbia, really in the foothills of the -- of the Rockies. Tumbler Ridge, a community of about 2,500 people. Active shooter alert goes out. The only description that police give is that it is a woman in a dress with brown hair. This is happening at the local high school. Police say they arrived within two minutes. But, John, they had already found six people dead. One died, as you said, on the way to hospital. Two people dead at a separate residence. But also so devastating, John, is the fact that at least 25 people were injured.

Now, thankfully, this is a small community, John. The health center was right next door. They were triaged there. But, obviously, the entire community still in these hours under lockdown. Parents, relatives, family members not knowing what had happened to their loved ones. We're really not learning much more about the suspect at this point except to say that they were found also deceased at the school.

The prime minister of Canada certainly saying that he as well is devastated. Called this attack horrific and says that, look, "I join Canadians in grieving with those whose lives have been changed irreversibly."

John, still so many questions here and we await more information from police in the coming hours, especially when it comes to that description of the suspect.

BERMAN: Awful situation for the people of that small town.

Paula Newton, thank you very much.

Kate.

BOLDUAN: This morning, the saga of convicted murderer Alex Murdaugh continues. Murdaugh is taking his fight against his double murder conviction to the South Carolina State Supreme Court now. His defense team trying to appeal and set to make the case why his March 2023 conviction, they believe, should be overturned. He's currently serving life in prison for the shootings of his wife and youngest son.

CNN's Dianne Gallagher is in Columbia, South Carolina, ahead of all of this.

I mean, there has been a million twists and turns. That's why it has been called a saga. And now this. What are you -- what's expected today?

DIANNE GALLAGHER, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Kate, it is the trial of the century here in South Carolina that's back in the courtroom today. Alex Murdaugh taking those appeals before the five supreme court justices here in South Carolina.

We are not expecting the kind of fireworks and drama that we have typically seen in the Murdaugh saga, if you will. Instead, this is going to be a bit of a constitutional discussion, a conversation, an argument in front of those justices. Alex Murdaugh's attorneys basically have two appeals that they have going on. The first one relates directly to that 2023 murder trial saying that information that was included about Alex Murdaugh's schemes and fraud, those financial crimes, stealing millions of dollars from his vulnerable clients, his law firm, the government that he is also currently serving decades long sentences for, that they should never have been included because they were prejudicial, and at least not to the degree that they were. The attorneys are also alleging there were problems with the murder investigation back in 2021, when Maggie and Paul Murdaugh were shot and killed at the family's hunting property.

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