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Aired September 23, 2012 - 19:00   ET

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DON LEMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon. It is the top of the hour so we want to get you up to speed on the day's headlines.

A wall of snow has claimed the lives of at least 11 people on one of the world's highest mountains. More than a dozen climbers are still missing on Nepal's Mt. Manaslu after an avalanche swept through their campsite. These pictures show rescuers evacuating the injured. More than 200 people were attempting to climb the mountain which is considered one of the most dangerous to navigate.

A schizophrenic double amputee in a wheelchair shot to death by a Houston police officer. Brian Claunch (ph) allegedly had threatened people at a home for the mentally ill and then tried to stab the police officer's partner with what turned out to be a pen.

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JODI SILVA, SPOKESWOMAN, HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT: The other officer, Officer Mirren in fear of the safety of his partner and in the safety of himself, discharged his duty weapon striking the suspect.

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LEMON: The man initially got upset when he was denied a cigarette and a soda. The officer is now on administrative leave.

Turkey is the most recent victim of spill-over fighting from Syria.

Air and artillery rounds from a battle on the Syrian side of the border landed in a small Turkish border town wounding a number of residents. For days now Syria's military and rebels have been fighting for control on another town on the Syrian side of the border.

A giant panda cub born a week ago at the Smithsonian's National Zoo in Washington has died. The cub's birth was seen as a big step in conservation, the first to be born at the zoo since 2005. Zookeepers heard the mother in distress this morning, they ran in to do CPR, but the panda couldn't be saved.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DENNIS KELLY, DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL ZOO: This is devastating. This is devastating for all of us here. It's hard to describe how much passion and energy and thought and care has gone into this.

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LEMON: They're investigating but it's still not known what caused the cub's death.

What started out as a sweet 16 party in the Netherlands turned into a birthday brawl, literally. A teenager apparently went on Facebook to invite her friends to her downtown celebration. The invite went viral, between 3,000 and 5,000 people showed up. Police arrested 34 people.

More violence this weekend over the anti-Islamic film that's been so offensive to Muslims -- thousands of Hezbollah supporters in a Lebanon town protested against the film and the leader of Lebanon's Shiite Muslim movement called for the new protest tomorrow -- for a new protest tomorrow. This after other protests broke out in Nigeria, Bangladesh and Germany.

And meanwhile, a leading figure from the Sunni Islam world has called for calm in the wake of continuing violent protests. The Grand Mufti of Egypt Ali Gomaa spoke with CNN's Ian Lee and called for Muslim followers, for his followers and Muslim followers to act more as the Prophet Muhammad would.

Ian joins me by phone. He is in Cairo, Egypt. So Ian will this have any impact in lessening the violence?

IAN LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Well Don, it definitely will have some impacts on lessening the violence, especially in Egypt and the surrounding countries. This is one of the leading figures of Sunni Islam because his voice does carry quite a bit of weight.

But there will be extremist groups who want to exploit this video, and political organizations that will want to use it to advance politically. So there are those who are going to still go out despite his message of peace, despite his message of calm. There are those who are going to want to exploit this.

But he is definitely, the Grand Mufti is going on a whole media campaign; he's talking and trying to spread his message all throughout the Islamic world to tell people to -- to calm down, to show patience, to show tolerance for this video and to combat it with education and sharing a belief other than just with the violence we've been seeing.

LEMON: You know, the Grand Mufti told you Ian that he was concerned about film some time ago, correct?

LEE: That's -- that's right. He told me that -- you know these -- these kinds of videos will get violent responses in the Middle East. And I mean, it doesn't come as a surprise because these -- these kind of films, these kind of insults towards Islam carry heavy sentences in these countries. And when this video first came out, he was afraid that, you know, this would cause a stir. This is what he had to say to us.

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ALI GOMAA, GRAND MUFTI OF EGYPT (through translator): I was one of the first to warn about the dangers of this film. In a statement to the Muslim world, I asked people to deal with the situation the way Prophet Muhammad dealt with issues, through patience and wisdom.

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LEMON: He also talked to you, Ian, about the film being a vehicle of hate, not of expression of free speech. Is that valid?

LEE: Well like I said earlier, this kind of -- this kind of video, if it was produced in many countries in the Middle East, you could -- the producer could get the death penalty for it. So this is definitely something that Muslims take very seriously, these things they find very insulting.

But when you talk to the protesters on the street and you bring up something like freedom of speech, many people don't understand the concept of freedom of speech that people in the West have because for many of them, they have been living under dictatorship for such a long time they don't understand what it means and what the responsibilities are. And many people thought that this video was sanctioned by the U.S. government because like in many countries like Egypt, films have to go through government censors and governments have to approve them before they're released. So a lot of people thought that the U.S. government had to approve this video before it was released.

So there's a lot of miscommunication between the two and -- and that's the one thing that the Mufti was trying to go for that to try to educate both the people here and over in the West to try to cross the divide that is separating them right now.

LEMON: Yes they are not even aware that you can just on your cell phone upload a video to YouTube or anywhere, Facebook and have it seen around the world. Ian Lee, reporting, thank you very much.

The Prophet Muhammad, a topic often feared by many in the western world. Why are so many so afraid of any mention of Muhammad?

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LEMON: Tonight, a discussion about the Prophet Muhammad, a discussion that will most likely make a lot of you very uncomfortable, but why should it?

I'm here in the United States which prides itself on freedom, especially the freedom of expression, yet through the technology of television people around the world can see this, including radical Islamists, who in the past few days have attacked and murdered people all in the name of the Prophet Muhammad. And to be clear, our motive here is to educate and to understand, not to incite or instigate.

That said, one of the big stories this week was about this. It is the new iPhone and on this thing you can take pictures, you can shoot videos and then when you're done, there are buttons that allow you to tweet it. You can Facebook it or send it right to YouTube for the entire world to see. Anyone anywhere at any second is capable of broadcasting something insulting.

So my point is that you cannot stop the march of time. So as I watch the violence overseas I wondered in what century are these protesters living? And then I read William Saletan's article on Slate.com; it's called "Internet videos will insult your religion. Ignore them and get over it."

Welcome, William. Thanks for joining us. It's not just democracy or the U.S., it's technology; and no matter your religious beliefs, William, you cannot stop progress.

WILLIAM SALETAN, NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, SLATE.COM: No and Don, you just made the point that you don't require a network anymore to broadcast hateful speech around the world. All you need is a video camera, an Internet connection, literally two people were responsible for creating and disseminating this movie on the Internet that has inflamed the Muslim world.

LEMON: And you write that the filmmaker wanted to prove that Islam is a violent religion and the protesters played right into his script, especially since most of them, William had never even seen the video. They're being manipulated in more ways than one here.

SALETAN: Yes the manipulators are on both sides, ok. We have our crazies over in this country, who want to inflame passions over in the Muslim world and get people angry and then we have radical clerics over in the Muslim world who are happy to collaborate in this with each side hating the other and trying to incite their populations against each other.

LEMON: So the next time it will be something else, another video, another cartoon, or what have you. William, I want you to listen to this.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Since our founding the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.

HILLARY CLINTON, SECRETARY OF THE STATE: Let me state very clearly and I hope it is obvious, that the United States government had absolutely nothing to do with this video.

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LEMON: Ok. So that was part of the PSA that the U.S. government spent about $70,000 of ad time to run on TV in Pakistan. Not once did it mention free speech.

So here is a question, by being so sensitive and not telling some of these people, as you say, just to get over it, has the U.S. become enablers prolonging the inevitable that these handful of protesters or however many there are, are ultimately fighting a losing battle?

SALETAN: I wouldn't be so hard on the administration. They might not have used the word "free speech" but they are trying to convey something very complicated. Look, we are at the beginning of a big, long international conversation with the Muslim world, and what we're trying to convey is just because we allow something to be broadcast, to be put on the Internet in this country does not mean that the government or the American people support it. And that's a very complicated idea that we're trying to convey to people who live in countries where that kind of thinking has not been allowed.

LEMON: You also write to the protesters, you said the hatred and bloodshed will go on until you stop taking the bait. Mockery of your prophet on a computer with an Internet address somewhere in the world can no longer be your master nor can the puppet clerics who tell you to respond with violence.

So in writing that William, in America we take these words, interpret them as tough love, but do you worry that you -- what you have written will incite radical Islamists to do more violence?

SALETAN: No, no, in fact quite the opposite. I mean, the point that I'm simply making is that since we can't stop it, since we can't stop somebody with an iPhone from making a video, we can't stop someone with an Internet connection from disseminating it, the place where we can stop this is for the people who might -- the people who are the targets of this, who they're trying to offend with the anti-Muslim stuff, to ignore it. Simply ignore it.

Nobody came to watch this movie when it was put in a theater in the United States -- nobody. Why can't the Muslim world treat it the same way?

LEMON: William Saletan, thank you very much. Very interesting article and we appreciate you joining us.

SALETAN: Thank you.

LEMON: All right.

So if the Prophet Muhammad -- if it's off limits, if so, why? This is America. A Muslim, a Christian and a Jew walk into our studio for an honest conversation -- that is no joke.

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LEMON: We're having a conversation tonight about faith and technology and the violence that erupted overseas in response to that anti-Islam video that was posted on YouTube. More than 20 countries saw protests and the violence in Libya even cost the U.S. ambassador his life; again, all of this because of a video depiction of the Prophet Muhammad. The mere mention of him can incite violence, destruction, and death, but why?

I asked Haroon Moghul, a fellow at the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding. Why is Muhammad off limits? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HAROON MOGHUL, INSTITUTE FOR SOCIAL POLICY AND UNDERSTANDING: I don't think Muhammad is off limits. I think part of the problem is we don't know much about who he is. I think the people who often speak about Islam and on behalf of Islam, people who push themselves as experts generally aren't very familiar with Islam and aren't able to communicate who Muhammad is to Muslims and what he means to Muslims.

So I think the problem really is that we just don't have a conversation about Islam that we deserve and so what happens is you get extremist voices from both sides filling in the gaps leaving the vast majority of Muslims and the vast majority of Americans in the dark.

LEMON: But no matter how civilized a conversation we have here tonight or on television, it won't stop what happened. It's not stopped being the protests.

MOGHUL: Well, I think we have to be fair when we look at the protests and what's happening. The overwhelming majority of Muslims from the grassroots to Muslim leaders and religious leaders and political leaders have condemned the violence or have condemned the protest.

Even if you look at the people who are protesting, an even smaller percentage of them are protesting violently. And while there are definitely people with extremist opinions who are pushing those protests, I don't think the protests are really about the Prophet Muhammad. I think they have a lot more to do with local politics, with American foreign policy and with feelings of humiliation and being basically not treated with dignity, not treated as part of society as being able to politically participate.

So there are a lot of feelings of marginalization and alienation. And I think this movie is more of an excuse for people to come out to the streets and vent those feelings. And these kinds of gestures are pushed by extremist voices in political ears (ph) order to push their own cause forward.

LEMON: I hear what you're saying, but as most of us look at it around the world, especially the Western -- in Western culture, we don't see many people coming forward who are maybe secular Muslims, or people who are more -- in the middle for lack of a better term -- not radical Islamists who come forward to denounce these sorts of activities.

We see the people who are out on the streets, and we hear the words that you're saying, that it's a handful, it's not a lot of people, but I don't think most people believe it because we don't see the other side. We don't see a counterweight that's as big or that can counter those protesters.

MOGHUL: Well, I think the counterweight is there. We're just not paying attention. We tend to show things that feed into a narrative of what we expect the Muslim world to be. Pakistan is a country of about 190 million people; 10,000 or 20,000 people on the street is not a huge number of people. At the same time there have been massive protests in Benghazi, Libya -- 30,000 or 40,000 people, which is a huge percentage of the population of a tiny country like Libya -- and they've been coming out protesting against the killing of Ambassador Stevens. They've been protesting against extremism. They've been protesting against radicalism. Every major religious leader across the Muslim world, pretty much across the board has condemned violent protests, has condemned the calls for extreme action and radicalism.

It's just a question of what we're paying attention to and we tend to focus on the things that produce the best images on TV.

LEMON: I want to read something from the "New York Times" -- in this article in the "New York Times", columnist Roger Cohen writes this. He says the Muslim world -- "The Muslim world cannot have it both ways. It cannot place Islam at the center of political life and in extreme cases political violence while at the same time declaring that the religion is off-limits to contestation and ridicule."

Is there a belief in the Muslim world that you can't have -- you can have it both ways that the Prophet Muhammad or cannot in any way be depicted at all? Is it a sense the Muslim world wants it both ways?

MOGHUL: I don't think Roger Cohen is being fair and I don't he's being accurate. The Prophet Muhammad is a deeply contested figure. I mean most of the major divisions in Islam today between Sunnis and Shias, for example, have to do with interpreting the Prophet Muhammad's legacy.

I think the difference here is that the caricatures that are being made are blatantly offensive. It's not about meaningful criticism and debate. It's about mockery and humiliation. And for a small percentage of Muslims -- and I have to underline that, a very small percentage, that kind of caricature and mockery is not separable from the kind of treatment their countries and societies have received.

So for Egyptians, who are storming the U.S. Embassy, is it really about the Prophet Muhammad or is it about what they perceive American foreign policy to be? I think those are questions that we haven't really separated out in our heads.

I do agree that there needs to be more of a conversation about religion. There needs to be more of an honest conversation, but I think that as you see democracy is spreading across the Muslim world. We'll see that happen and maybe this is actually the first stages of that process happening.

LEMON: So as a Muslim, do you think the Prophet Muhammad should be depicted in any way? Is it ok to depict him -- to make a caricature of him or to depict him in any way?

MOGHUL: I mean honestly I believe in freedom of speech. So, as long as someone is not inciting violence directly, it's fair game. People should be allowed to make the points they want to make and make the arguments they want to make. From a religious point of view and a moral point of view, Muslims find negative depictions of religious figures and sacred figures like Jesus, John the Baptist, Muhammad to be to be offensive, but I find it offensive and that doesn't mean I'm going to go out to the streets or I'm going to write a letter to the editor.

I'm mature enough to say, you have a point of you, I have a point of view. We can agree to disagree. I think based on what's happening across the Muslim world, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not concerned enough to get onto the streets, whether to protest peacefully or among the even smaller minority that are pushing things violently. I think we're just looking at a radical fringe unfortunately.

LEMON: Do you think most Muslims worldwide think it's ok to depict the Prophet Muhammad?

MOGHUL: I don't think they agree with the ability to depict him, but at the same time there are differences within Islam. A lot of Shia Muslims, for example, don't have the same taboo around depicting the Prophet Muhammad in images. There are also movies that are made about the prophet's life and sacred figures in Islamic thought.

I think this has a lot more to do with political grievances, with anger, with democratization, with opening up a political process for the first time. And really these are societies where people are beginning to see their chance to really influence society (inaudible). And so it's going to be messy along the way. This is unfortunately another one of the bumps along the road to a more democratic and more sophisticated societies.

LEMON: Great conversation. Haroon Moghul, thank you very much.

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LEMON: We're not done yet. Jesus isn't off limits. His depiction is used in movies and shows all the time. So why do fires, shootings, rioting, and deaths happen at the mere mention of Muhammad? See what a Christian and a Jew have to say next.

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LEMON: A parody of the Prophet Muhammad has led to deadly uprisings throughout the Muslim world. For many this begs the question, how is it that images of Jesus can be made into parodies without violent consequences but not the Muslim Prophet Muhammad? Is depicting one more acceptable than the other?

Two men with a lot of say on this -- have a lot to say on this is Bishop Swilley -- Jim Swilley, and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. And I spoke with them yesterday. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RABBI SHMULEY BOTEACH, AUTHOR, "KOSHER JESUS": Muslims need to understand that in any free and open society everything is going to be fair game. What they really need to understand is that no one can insult Islam except Muslims themselves. In other words, it is the behavior on the part of the religious people who profess a certain faith that will ultimately determine how that faith is depicted.

If a Catholic priest is found doing something illegitimate with a child, he's disgraced his faith; if a rabbi does something that is wrong within Judaism than he has maligned his faith. Those who go out and burn embassies and do so in the name of the Prophet Muhammad, they are the blasphemers -- not some idiot with a camera with D list actors out of Hollywood who's uploading a clip on to YouTube.

So it is we who have to be judged by how we depict our faith through our actions. And we really need to tell our Islamic brothers and sisters, forthrightly and candidly and lovingly because I respect Islam, that you run the risk of allowing the world to see your religion as violent by not coming out much forcefully and condemning this violence.

LEMON: Yes. And that's part of our discussion that we had this week as we were putting the show together and that I had earlier with Mr. Moghul and that we'll have a little bit later on.

Before I let you respond, Bishop, I want to play this. This week the idea came up that Jesus may have had a wife and it didn't take long for the late night shows to go to town to have a little bit of fun with it. Check it out.

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JIMMY KIMMEL, TALK SHOW HOST: Wouldn't that be something if Jesus was married? He could turn water into wine but he can't take out the garbage. Maybe Jesus wasn't even his name. Maybe that's just what his wife used to yell every time he came home late and it stuck.

DAVID LETTERMAN, TALK SHOW HOST: Well, now, Jesus -- it sounds like maybe I got you at a bad time. I'll check with you real soon, ok.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, take the Tigers at 1 1/2. It's my rock of the week.

LETTERMAN: Ok. Thank you. Will do, Jesus.

JON STEWART, TALK SHOW HOST: Jesus was married. That is some pure, uncut, sitcom bait. He can raise the debt but heaven help him when he forgets to put down the toilet seat. Yes, Kevin James is Jesus in the "King of Kings".

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LEMON: See? So, Rabbi, to your point, this was all over the networks but there have been no uprisings, no burning effigies of Kimmel, Letterman, or Stewart. Are we just -- are we just looking at profoundly different cultures or there is something to be said about letting words just be words, Bishop, as the Rabbi said?

BISHOP JIM SWILLEY, AUTHOR, "FIRST, THE GOOD NEWS": Well, when I see those I can't help but laugh because those guys are hysterically funny. When I watch any portrayal of Jesus from anything, even my boys like "South Park", this very irreverent "Family Guy". Those guys are really even R-Rated. But they have Jesus parodies on --

LEMON: But to the rabbi's point, if you laugh at it, then you laugh at it. You don't have to be offended.

SWILLEY: Well, for me personally they're not really talking about the Jesus that I know. In my mind they are skewering an image that people have about Jesus that really is attacking organized religion much more than it is the actual Jesus.

LEMON: Are you offended by that at all?

SWILLEY: No, because I know who Jesus is, and like - in some settings where I am, it's very ecumenical, I know that Christians don't like when you're sort of in that setting where you say all the faiths are accepted and embraced because there's a great feeling among evangelicals that anybody that's not a Christian is - they're not going to heaven, they're not right, they're going to hell.

My feeling is that in all due respect, Jesus is a big boy. I mean, you know, you bring him to the party, he can take care of himself. And if I really do believe he's the king of kings and the lord of lords then someone doing a Mel Brooks parody or whatever, it's a non- issue.

LEMON: It's a non issue but again as I was saying, you can't stop the march of time because you can upload this onto anything and if you want to live in a free and democratic society, that's part of living in a free and democratic society.

SWILLEY: Absolutely.

LEMON: But then again we're looking at it in a western way.

SWILLEY: Because when you deal with Islam, you're talking about national identity. You're not just talking about religion. You're talking about this is what you would call a Muslim country. So it's the same thing, it's like someone insulting your mother or insulting your family or your school or whatever except that when it comes to religion you're dealing with the mysteries of god.

LEMON: Rabbi, you heard the jokes. We laughed at them. There were no burning effigies, nobody issued a fatwa or anything for any of those guys. So then what gives here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, the Book of Mormon playing a couple blocks from where I'm sitting right now that's utterly blasphemous to the Mormons and they're not at the barricades. Look, there's two very important points. First of all, a lot of our Arab brothers and sisters are living in countries where forget about criticizing the prophet Mohammed, if they spoke out against their own leaders they will be put in jail or they might be beheaded. Try speaking out in Saudi Arabia against King Abdullah or even in Jordan, certainly in Syria where they're fighting for their lives. So there's an a suppression of the freedom of speech. But one of the lessons I feel that the world can learn from Judaism specifically is that in the Hebrew bible upon which all religions, Christianity and Islam are built, there are no perfect people, no one is infallible. Everybody is subject to criticism.

LEMON: In a relationship, what happens when it's her fault? Well, there is a book with that title that aims to give women the upper hand. It is the same book the author, a high school girl's basketball coach, and a counselor says got him fired. We're going to talk to him next.

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LEMON: A suburban Chicago guidance counselor is without a job tonight after writing what he refers to as a dating advice book. Bryan Craig's 44-page book "It's Her Fault," it advises women on what to do to get the upper hand in their relationships. But the school board say the how-to book contains too much how to saying it contains offensive content regarding women and sex. The board voted unanimously last week to fire Craig and the professional counselor is not taking the matter sitting down. He is planning to sure.

Bryan Craig joins us now from Chicago along with his attorney, Steven Richards. You were also the girls' basketball (INAUDIBLE) basketball coach, am I correct?

BRYAN CRAIG, FIRED FOR DATING ADVICE BOOK: Yes, I was the coach before this all came about and I actually resigned before then, you know, for reasons that had nothing to do with the book.

LEMON: OK. What does your book have to do with your job?

CRAIG: Absolutely nothing.

LEMON: Nothing. Obviously you feel you were unjustly fired. I want to read -- let's get to the book. Let's talk more specifically about it. In the foreword to your book, you say you have spent most of your life surrounded by women. You coach the girl's basketball team. You're a husband, a father, marriage counselor, you apparently liked your job as a high school counselor so why even write the book?

CRAIG: Well, I wrote the book for one reason. I wanted to empower women and i wanted to encourage men and women to do whatever they have to do to foster positive relationships. That's the main reason why I wrote it.

LEMON: OK. You say that the firing violates your first amendment rights, but you have some very risque things in the book quite honestly which is among the reasons that the board voted 6-0 to fire you. I'm going to read a quote from the book here. It says "He's your man, go ahead and let him turn you every which way, let him touch your hair if he asks, real or not, give him oral sex without making the ugh face."

So, listen, do you think - just honestly for me as an adult, not a big deal, but do you think parents, especially those of young girls, would approve of you counseling them or coaching their kids with such a risque book out there?

CRAIG: Well, you know, I have been at the district for eight years and I have been a great counselor and I formed tons of relationships with students and parents, and, you know, of course, I assume that with my character and me being a role model that that stood higher than anything, you know, and people can pull parts from the bible and make it sound sinister.

What the media did actually was pulled a lot of parts. The media pulled a lot of parts, every part they could and made it into something that it's not, and from all of this, you know, anybody who bought the book assuming it was a sex book was highly disappointed, you know, because it's not that at all.

LEMON: OK. So one more, you said the media is picking stuff out of the book. Well, let's do another one. Here is another quote from the book. You say "If you take nothing else away from this conversation, take this, you as a woman have the power. The trick is making the man think he has the power some of the time." Why give women the power? Why write that?

CRAIG: Well, I state in the foreword, I have a daughter, I have a niece, I have a sister, I have a wife, I have tons of friends and family who are females and for those people I would definitely break man law to let women know. Women are smarter. We do a lot of things. We're not as smart in a relationship area as women can be.

LEMON: You've represented yourself well, so well that your attorney didn't have to say one word. The attorney is Stevens Richard and, of course, Bryan Craig is the one who is suing and who was fired. Thanks to both of you. Good luck. Come back when there is some movement on this, OK?

CRAIG: Thank you.

STEVEN RICHARDS, CRAIG'S ATTORNEY: Thank you.

LEMON: Sometimes even when you do everything right, things can go horribly wrong. Just ask Jill Biden.

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JILL BIDEN, WIFE OF JOE BIDEN: I've seen Joe up close. I have seen how -

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LEMON: We get our hands around that one next. We'll talk about it.

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LEMON: All right. Sometimes even when you do everything right, things can go horribly wrong. Just ask the vice president's wife.

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JILL BIDEN: So this election is personal to me, and it's deeply personal to the man I'm about to introduce. I've seen Joe up close. I've seen how -

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LEMON: Did you see that? We had that thing up in front of her hands. Ben Gleib is a comedian. He's the host of a political podcast last week on earth. He's in L.A.. So Ben, she was reading the prompter, an innocent moment that turned kind of dirty. And she went on. It was funny. She went with it.

BEN GLEIB, ACTOR & COMEDIAN: Yes, got even worse. She said things that are probably not even appropriate to repeat on CNN. Listen, you have to cut Jill Biden some slack because it just goes with becoming a Biden. She was gaffe-free premarriage and now I understand her wedding vows she actually had to say in sickness and in health through gaffe after painful gaffe.

I understand actually the next line in the speech, I'm glad we didn't have to hear it, she said Joe Biden has an amazing ability to arouse the base unlike Mitt Romney who wants to give voters the shaft. Totally not the way she wanted it to come out.

LEMON: All right. So listen, there are some off script moments that stuck out too from this past week. A lot of people jumped on Mitt Romney's comments that he made on hidden camera.

GLEIB: This is true. One of the ones that didn't get as much coverage was when he said that he wishes that he was born of Mexican parents, he'd have a better chance of winning the election. Then he said I say that jokingly but seriously it would be better if I were Latino. So first of all he doesn't even know what jokingly means because then he said he actually did mean it seriously. But also maybe you should look inward at your policies, try to have actual positions that more people are in favor of instead of hoping could you magically switch races.

LEMON: Yes.

GUEST: What's his plan to court more older Medicare voters? If only I were a giant bottle of prescription pills. I'd have a much better chance.

LEMON: Let's talk about "Saturday Night Live." Looks like it's going to be a real player this season like last night. Take a look at this clip and I want you to weigh in.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why are you saying anything during this Romney tailspin? I mean, let's review. On Monday a secret tape is released where Romney insults half of the country and then that same day he stands by those remarks. On Wednesday he does a town hall for Hispanics in brown face and Friday Paul Ryan gets booed by the AARP and then instead of just enjoying that, you go, "hey, everybody, remember my campaign slogan?" "Yeah, I can't do that." Don't make this hard on yourself. You're like the criminal who gets away with murder and then starts sending the cops puzzles to figure it out.

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LEMON: Does he have a point, Ben? I mean maybe candidates should have comedians as advisers.

GLEIB: That's not a bad idea. We would definitely have them avoid these problems, but I think maybe Obama is doing it on purpose. I think he likes a challenge when he runs for president. Four years ago he became the first African-American to become president in this country with a very sordid past when it comes to race. I think now he thinks I just have to run again against Mitt Romney, bring on challenges.

I bet you next week he will come on the news and he will say, oh, fellow Americans, Mitt Romney would be a better president. And then check the polls. I'm still up! I'm still up, baby.

LEMON: Ben Gleib, thank you, sir. Always funny. See you next time.

GLEIB: Thanks for having me, Don.

LEMON: All right.

It is the last PGA tour event and one of its biggest, the winners, the losers, and $11 million check. Goodness, we'll go live to East Lake Golf Club next.

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LEMON: Tiger who? Rory who? Most of the attention was on those two superstars heading into the tour championship in Atlanta, but now the spotlight is on tournament and Fedex champion Brandt Snedeker who takes home more than 11 million bucks. Joining me now CNN's Patrick Snell.

Patrick, everyone was talking about Tiger and Rory earlier this weekend. This was a major upset, was it?

PATRICK SNELL, CNN SPORTS: Let's just say that Brandt Snedeker is a name to be reckoned with now in the world of golf, Don. I'll tell you a little bit about how Tiger and Rory fell short in just a few moments but lets pay tribute to Snedeker first. Well, he has won a combined total of $11.44 million, 1.44 for winning the tour championship and an extra $10 million bonus thrown in thanks to the Fedex Cup title as well, but he was coolness and calmness personified. He never really got into a flap and he just basically been telling me how he is going to be spending that money now. He says he wants to help others, he wants to give to charity. He feels that very important. He says he's one person who simply doesn't need it and he's not going to go out and buy a new car, Don. LEMON: So, I mean, what a year for him. He makes his first Ryder Cup team and now this but you know, I have to ask you about Tiger and Rory. Great years, but they couldn't handle Snedeker this weekend at all it appeared.

SNELL: They really couldn't. Yes, Snedeker finished at 10 under par for the championship. Tiger woods was two under par, Don, eight shots back. Rory was one under, nine shots back. And when you factor in this little stat, that Woods was the co-leader after round one, it really was a surprise, or was it? Because Tiger has shown in recent month that he can't string four good rounds together and seriously maintain a serious challenge for a title. Rory Mcilroy, of course, has been red hot. He came into this tournament looking for a third straight victory. He did play well. He was five under going into the final round, three shots back but didn't really make a move as I expected on Sunday. So both these two blockbuster names, if you like, Don, ahead of this tournament, failed to make a serious impact on it, both of them playing second fiddle to that man, Snedeker, who as you say is looking forward to the Ryder Cup now as Team USA going into battle with Team Europe, Don.

LEMON: Patrick Snell, always good assignments. Thank you, sir. We appreciate it.

A flight for the history books, the space shuttle "Endeavour" made its mark this week, becoming the final shuttle to take to the skies this time on the back of a 747. "Endeavour" is the last of the four remaining shuttles to head to a new life as a museum centerpiece. It will be at the California Science Center in Los Angeles. Three-day trip from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida could be described as taking the scenic route. Wednesday it flew over NASA facilities in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana and Houston. And then on Thursday, it flew low over Tucson, Arizona, where Mark Kelly, who is a commander on the last "Endeavour" mission, watched with his wife, former congresswoman, Gabby Giffords. And then Friday, "Endeavour" made a picturesque pass over the Golden Gate Bridge. All told, "Endeavour" made 25 flights into space, traveling over 123 million miles. Space shuttle "Endeavour" making its mark this week.

OK. So look, we just saw Edie Falco live on the red carpet and she looked amazing but not everyone does. And we are about to see some of the dos and some of the donts. We may have to call the fashion (INAUDIBLE).

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LEMON: The 64th Primetime Emmy Awards gearing up, but before the stars can claim the golden statues, they must shine on the red carpet. Here to talk about the fashion hits and misses, Lloyd Boston. He's style expert, the author of "The Style Checklist, the Ultimate Wardrobe Essentials For You." Thanks for joining us. Haven't seen you in 100 years.

LLOYD BOSTON, STYLE EXPERT: Hey, Don. I know.

LEMON: We met, what, 10 years ago on "Weekend Today." geez. With Soledad.

BOSTON: Somewhere around there. Long time. We're too young for 10 years.

LEMON: Soledad, David Bloom, me and you hanging out.

BOSTON: That's right.

LEMON: So listen, we're going to call this the fashion faux pas. So let's go through the list now.

BOSTON: OK.

LEMON: To the fashion police. We are going to rip off Joan Rivers. Edie Falco, the actress on "Nurse Jackie" we saw her just a little while ago, she looks hot.

BOSTON: She does. And look at that body. I mean, the body is amazing, first of all, I don't know what her age is, but is that kind of the chic mullet dress, if you will, it's night time by the front and daytime by the back, but I love the gold belt and any woman who can show off that midsection around the back is an amazingly confident woman. I think she looks fantastic, fresh and modern.

LEMON: Business in the front, party in the back. OK.

BOSTON: There you go.

LEMON: Sofia Vergara, always looks amazing from "Modern Family." Wow.

BOSTON: Well, you know, she's a spicy Latina and I love the fact that she's not afraid to show off her curves.

Take a look at the detail on that dress though, many women would absolutely be scared to death to pull that off. The keyhole in the front, its got a very mermaid appeal to it, all that glimmer is totally gold tonight for her.

LEMON: Yes, and speaking of golden globes, listen, Christine Hendricks, I don't know if we have a picture of her. My gosh, she was spilling out of that dress, man.

BOSTON: But that's good thing. She is one of my favorites, I'm a sucker for a ginger. You look at someone like Christina Hendricks she gives curvy women the power to do the same, and a pale palette looks amazing against her raven hair.

LEMON: All right. Heidi Klum, host of "Project Runway""?

BOSTON: Let's talk about mint condition. I mean, she is a former model but many women still think of her as a model. That beautiful mint color looks amazing on her tan skin, she is plunging from the top and plunging from the bottom. And that's hard to do. So you're moving from every direction. It's about 90 degrees here in Hollywood. And she's pulling it off beautifully. She keep the accessories simple because she's showing so much skin.

LEMON: Yes. We got a lot of diversity here because we talked about the redhead Christina Hendricks. We saw the fiery Latina now African- American Kerry Washington, actress on "Scandal."

BOLTON: Yes, I mean she is a beautiful woman. Kerry Washington, what I love about here is she takes risks, yet she keeps it classic. Look at that hair-do, so simple, just looks like an easy chignon, probably took three hours and she's wearing -

LEMON: What are you talking about?

BOSTON: Chignon is a fancy French word for a bun.

LEMON: All right. Come on, Don.

And I love the drape neck here. She didn't junk it up with a lot of jewelry. She looks like she took a nice job this morning, dewy fresh skin and I love glitter on a tone, skin tone such as that. She's perfect.

LEMON: Emily Van Camp, actress from "Revenge."

BOSTON: Yes, I mean, she's kind of under the radar. She's new to the red carpet. Many of us behind the scenes know her, but look at that pale palette on her, it's very grown up and sophisticated, again that chignon, once again, a little bit sheer around the decollete. So she's not giving you the young usual starlet (INAUDIBLE), if you will. She's keeping it very sophisticated.

LEMON: All right. Let's check out as some of the women writers in this show say, put in the prompter here, the man candy on the red carpet, the man candy. John Hamm, I hate John Hamm, he never - he can't look bad.

BOSTON: You know, he probably feels the same about you, you always look dapper and chic, and the reason being, he keeps it classic and traditional, simple bow tie, hand tied. And I love a single button, I believe that is, because it gives you the James Bond look. When you get into two and three buttons, it gets a little more pedestrian, a little more business.

LEMON: Hey, you know about this I literally have 10 seconds, Eric Stonestreet from "Modern Family," quickly?

BOSTON: A lot of love, a lot of love in there. He's a big man, but I love the fact that his suit fits perfectly. And when you are a larger man, you got to make sure it fits perfectly. He did it just right.

LEMON: All right. Perfect. Thank you very much. That's it for this edition of the fashion po po on CNN with Lloyd Boston. Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching.

I'm Don Lemon at the CNN World headquarters in Atlanta. See you back here at 10:00 Eastern.