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India, Pakistan Agree To Ceasefire After Weeks Of Tensions And Fighting; Trump Says U.S. Mediated Talks Led To India And Pakistan Ceasefire; Ukraine, Europe Allies Call For 30-Day Truce With Russia Starting Monday; Kremlin Spokesperson: Russia Is "Resistant To Any Kind Of Pressure"; Federal Judge Orders Release Of Detained Tufts Univ. Student; Leo XIV Makes First Public Outing To Visit Augustinian Shrine; Hazardous Lead Levels Found In Milwaukee Public Schools; "My Happy Place" New Episode Airs Sunday At 10PM (ET/PT); Newark Mayor Released After Arrest Outside ICE Facility. Aired 1-2p ET
Aired May 10, 2025 - 13:00 ET
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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN HOST: India and Pakistan say they have reached a ceasefire agreement after weeks of dramatically escalating fighting between two nuclear rivals. President Trump said the U.S. mediated intense talks between the two sides and added, "Congratulations to both countries on using common sense and great intelligence".
Just hours ago, the conflict escalated further when Pakistan launched a new military operation saying it was in retaliation for India's attacks on military bases. But this was the scene a short time ago when Pakistan celebrated news of the ceasefire.
We've got full coverage of these developments. CNN's Nic Robertson is in Islamabad, Pakistan. Matthew Chance is in New Delhi. And Betsy Klein is at the White House.
So Nic, you first, fighting had escalated today when Pakistan launched a new military operation. Why are we hearing about this agreement now?
All right. Sorry, everyone. It's not your television set. We're having an audio problem there with Nic.
So let's go to New Delhi now. And Matthew Chance, what's the reaction there?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN CHIEF GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Fredricka, hey, comms aren't great in this part of the world at the moment, unfortunately. But look, I mean, it's been quite a dramatic day because it started off early this morning with Indian airstrikes deep inside Pakistani territory, striking at Pakistani military bases, which is really sort of unprecedented, or at least it hasn't happened for decades, really since the outright war between India and Pakistan in 1971 is what I'm told.
Anyway, it provoked an absolutely furious reaction inside Pakistan, which launched its counterstrikes, retaliating with missiles and artillery and drone fire to dozens of places inside India. And it really set this escalating conflict on a really dangerous spiral.
Remember, both countries are nuclear armed. And the speed at which things were getting, you know, more and more dangerous, I think, was very alarming for the United States. And, you know, it focused minds in Washington.
You have to remember, just a couple of days ago, JD Vance, U.S. Vice President, said that this India-Pakistan conflict was, quote, "fundamentally nothing to do with us". Now, the U.S. seems to have been behind a ceasefire agreement that has brought both sides together after a day or a night in American time, a night of intensive negotiations with the political and military leadership on both sides of the conflict in India and Pakistan.
I think it's probably true that the U.S. was pushing on an open door in the sense that, you know, despite the emotional nature of the conflict, which was sparked by an appalling terror attack in the disputed territory of, you know, the area of Kashmir last month, neither side, the Indians or the Pakistanis, really felt this was in their interests. But it's very difficult for them to sort of climb down and have an off-ramp.
The U.S. intervention appears to have given them that off-ramp. And so for the moment, at least, it looks like, you know, we're taking a step away from the brink of potential nuclear confrontation. Having said that, there are still reports coming from Indian administrative Kashmir of explosions and ceasefire violations.
And so we're keeping a close eye on that. But, you know, there's sort of tentative hope that this could be a first step towards de- escalating this potentially very dangerous confrontation, Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: All right, Matthew Chance in New Delhi, thank you so much.
I think we're going to try it again, Nic Robertson in Islamabad. So Nic --
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
WHITFIELD: Well, we can hear you. Hopefully you can hear me OK.
ROBERTSON: Yes.
WHITFIELD: All right. So, what is the update there from India and their reaction now and involvement in this possible ceasefire?
ROBERTSON: Yes, I think what I was trying to say before we had that comms issue, been a whiplash day for folks here. And they woke up with incoming missiles from India, Pakistan, because there'd been this track of diplomacy that we now see emerging accounts from the White House and what I'm getting from sources here, that diplomacy had really been going pretty well yesterday.
It's been ongoing for a number of days. Sources I've been talking to here have had very close engagement with senior U.S. officials over recent days, both in here and back in D.C. as well.
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So there was shock in Pakistan and the military responded to India in a very forceful way. There was a lot of sort of jingoistic language, if you will, on the state media at 5:00 a.m. this morning when it was announced that Pakistan was firing back at India or after holding off for so many days. Obviously, that's the point where the diplomacy really ratcheted up a gear.
And what I've been getting from sources here is that this sense that if they couldn't get a deal today, then it was going to just continue to spiral and escalate. And I think both sides recognize that. I think there was also a level of fatigue on both sides.
The official I'd spoke to had been up for 22 hours. And I know that had been going on for a number of days now. And it's estimated to be the same in Delhi, where, you know, not the -- you know, people like the Prime Minister, national security chiefs, military chiefs have been up day and night to stay on top of this and try and resolve the diplomatic side.
So there was a sense of -- that they needed to get this done. And it was a last push over the line and a lot of credit from here being given to Secretary Rubio and others in the U.S. administration to make this happen. They're really very clear about that here.
But there's another piece of the puzzle. And that is, of course, that India has suspended the 1960 Indus Water Treaty, which effectively cuts off three major rivers flowing into Pakistan out of the disputed Kashmir region. Absolutely vital for agriculture and power generation for electricity. Existential senior security sources here have told me.
And the reason why Pakistan was prepared to go all the way in this conflict right now, that's not resolved. That's still outstanding. But when I said that to the source, how are you going to resolve the water issue? The answer was, well, look, this is a ceasefire. What we have today is a ceasefire. And these other issues have to be worked out beyond that.
But the Pakistan side believe they got guarantees about India's position through the United States. Not clear what those guarantees are. But I think we also need to add a little bit of caution here to what's going on.
Because although the big guns, the fighter jets appear to have been, you know, either grounded or not firing missiles, the big missile batteries are not firing those huge rockets we saw firing off earlier in the day. At the line of control, that de facto border in Kashmir between Pakistan and India, where it's been artillery fire from tanks or from artillery guns, from soldiers firing their weapons across the border at each other -- at their own military bases across the border.
We're hearing this evening that there's still tension. There's still ongoing shooting. We're running down the details. And perhaps it's harder to get small guns, if you will, to stop for the ceasefire.
The big guns here under control, they've stopped. But this is -- it's symptomatic of how hard it is to pull this ceasefire into effect, particularly in those tensest of locations.
WHITFIELD: All right, still very tenuous. All right, keep us posted as you learn more.
Nic Robertson, thank you so much.
Let's go to Betsy Klein at the White House. And so, Betsy, the White House now is very proud, right, of its involvement here, this after the vice president for a moment said this is none of the U.S.'s business. So what's going on now?
BETSY KLEIN, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE PRODUCER: Yes, Fredricka. I think that that dramatic shift from Vice President JD Vance, who essentially said it was none of the U.S.'s business, becoming intimately involved in these discussions really underscores how significantly the situation had changed over the last 48 hours.
So we understand that Vance, along with Secretary of State Marco Rubio and other top U.S. officials, had really been engaging with prime ministers of both India and Pakistan over the last 48 hours. And a major turning point came on Friday after Vance had publicly made clear that the U.S. was very concerned about this spilling into a broader regional conflict and was also did not want this to become a nuclear conflict.
According to Trump administration officials who tell our colleague Alayna Treene that Vance, along with Rubio and Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, determined Friday that this conflict was, in fact, at risk of spiraling out of control.
Now, the sources did not describe the nature of the information that led them to make that determination, citing its sensitivity. But it was critical in getting them to make the decision to get the U.S. aggressively involved in these discussions.
Now, we know that Vance spoke at 12:00 p.m. on Friday Eastern time with India Prime Minister Modi. He conveyed to him that the White House believed that there was a high probability for dramatic escalation of this conflict, really encouraging de-escalation there. Rubio and other State Department officials subsequently really working the phones after that.
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President Trump then announcing the ceasefire in a post to social media early this morning. He said, "After a long night of talks mediated by the United States, I am pleased to announce that India and Pakistan have agreed to a full and immediate ceasefire". He went on to congratulate both countries.
Now, we understand that the U.S. was not involved in drafting this agreement, but does view their role of getting these two sides to talk. It also remains to be seen what role, if any, the U.S. will play in keeping that ceasefire.
WHITFIELD: So fascinating.
All right. Betsy Klein, and thanks to all of our reporting from Matthew Chance and Nic Robertson as well.
WHITFIELD: All right, more breaking news now. A remarkable and highly symbolic gathering in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv. That's where leaders from Germany, France, the U.K. and Poland, the so-called coalition of the willing, have all been meeting in person today. They are demanding a 30-day ceasefire from Russia in its war with Ukraine and a warning of possible severe sanctions on the Kremlin if it does not comply.
CNN Chief International Security Correspondent Nick Paton Walsh is in Kyiv. Nick, what more can you tell us about this meeting and the potential that could come from it?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Fredricka, it queues us up for an extraordinary 30 hours or so ahead until this ceasefire is supposed to kick in. Now, it is four key European powers, the prime minister is in charge of the four largest militaries in Europe, standing alongside the commander of the biggest military in Europe right now, Ukraine, saying that they want an unconditional ceasefire to begin when Monday begins.
Now, I should point out we are currently in the middle of what Russia has declared as a unilateral ceasefire, which its critics say was essentially designed to calm the atmosphere around its Friday Red Square Victory Day parade. Ukraine has said there's over 700 violations. We've seen some of them ourselves near the front lines.
So there's sort of an atmosphere of cynicism around the notion of how Moscow feels about peace. Indeed, a Kremlin spokesperson telling my colleague Fred Pleitgen just moments ago that they feel Europe is pressuring Russia and that Russia is resistant to pressure, again suggesting they support the general idea but need to hear about the nuances.
But this essentially was an ultimatum saying to Russia, you need to get on board our idea of an unconditional 30-day ceasefire or there will be, as Macron said, the French President Emmanuel Macron, massive sanctions. Zelenskyy suggesting they would hit the Russian banking and energy sector, and then more aid to Ukraine militarily, essentially improving Kyiv's position.
Here's what Zelenskyy said.
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PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINE (through translation): We've agreed that since Monday, 12th of May, a full and unconditional ceasefire must start for at least 30 days. We together demanded from Russia, we know that the United States support us in this. The unconditional ceasefire means no conditions. An attempt to put any conditions is signaling intention to drag out the war and undermine diplomacy.
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PATON WALSH: Now, just an important reminder here, this kicks in in about 30 hours. And while there's clearly been weeks of hard work to get to this particular point, Ukraine now has to explain to its tens of thousands of frontline troops what indeed they should do if come midnight on Monday, they come under attack. Do they hold off defending themselves? Do they proceed as normal? And that is a key question for how much this ceasefire might potentially stick.
Also, the U.S., according to Macron, says it will help monitor. Well, they have to get those capabilities in, in quality and quantity very fast to be sure that if they see Russian infractions, they can provide evidence satisfactory to that. Look, the one person I think a lot of this and those four leaders all spoke in English at the beginning of the day.
The one person this seemed to be mostly aimed at who wasn't there is U.S. President Donald Trump. Now, he clearly has given his backing. You saw the picture of those four leaders, five days on the phone with him. And they were keen to point out how supportive he was, not only of the ceasefire, it's originally an American and Ukrainian idea that's nearly two months old now, but also of the idea of further sanctions if indeed Russia's found to be in violation.
But you've got the sense, I think, from hearing the scepticism in the tone of some of those European leaders that perhaps they're not convinced this ceasefire is going to necessarily be honored by Moscow. And that leaves you with the prospect of the next few days being much more about testing and proving to this White House that Moscow isn't really interested in peace than necessarily trying to see if one suddenly kicks in.
I'm sure there's a lot of optimism here that this may be the beginning of something remarkable and new. And indeed, they said if there is a ceasefire that sticks, there'd be negotiations at a permanent end. Macron even said another ceasefire could roll on after the end of these 30 days.
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So a lot of hope here, but you have to remember, I think, the tone in which this comes now and the fact that we're already meant to be in a ceasefire right now that Russia's declared. Ukraine said they wouldn't honor it, but Ukraine also says Russia's been violating it from the start. So we're off to rocky ground, but a remarkable statement, frankly, has been made here and an exceptionally important 30 hours we have ahead of us.
WHITFIELD: All right. Nick Paton Walsh in Kyiv, thank you so much.
All right, so with that meeting in Kyiv at the Kremlin, I'm quoting now, "We have to think about it". That's what the spokesperson for the Kremlin told our Fred Pleitgen, who's joining us right now at the Kremlin in Moscow. Tell us more. FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi there, Fredricka. Yes, inside the Grand Kremlin Palace where Vladimir Putin, the Russian leader, has, of course, been conducting a flurry of bilateral meetings over the past couple of days. In fact, he has about six today.
And the Kremlin's saying they believe that meetings like these and days like these make Europe nervous, as they put it, because it obviously shows that a lot of international leaders are still very much willing to come here to Moscow, speak to the Russian president, and that Russia, they believe, internationally is still in a very strong position.
Now, of course, all of this comes only a day after that massive Victory Day parade on Red Square, which was so important to the Russians because it marks 80 years since the defeat of fascist -- of Nazi Germany in World War II. But it also, of course, was very important for Vladimir Putin to be sitting in the first row next to Xi Jinping of China. Again, those two nations also reiterating their close ties.
And I was able to speak to the Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov earlier today about this initiative from the Europeans for that ceasefire starting on Monday. Here's what he had to say.
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PLEITGEN: Sir, the Europeans are currently meeting with Zelenskyy in Kyiv, and they said that they are demanding a ceasefire from Monday for 30 days. They're threatening massive sanctions against Russia and saying that the U.S. President Trump is on board. Do you feel Russia is being pushed into a corner?
DMITRY PESKOV, KREMLIN SPOKESPERSON: No, I don't think so. Well, actually, a couple of days ago, Putin announced a ceasefire for three days. Have you heard any reaction from Kyiv? No. We haven't heard it either. Have you heard any criticism of Kyiv for not being able to respond or not willing to respond? No.
So if Kyiv is willing to have a ceasefire, why not to have a ceasefire for at least three days? So this is --
PLEITGEN: They want the three-day ceasefire to essentially go on for 30 days.
PESKOV: We have to have -- we have to think about that. We have to think about that. These are new development. So we have our own position.
Yes, definitely, we see that Europe is confronting us. Europe is actually confronting us very openly. We feel it. We know it. And then we are quite accustomed to that.
PLEITGEN: Do you think that Russia can be pressured in this case?
PESKOV: Well, if you look during the history, during the old history, during the modern history, you'll see that -- so Russia is quite resistant to any kinds of pressure. We are open for dialogue. We are open for attempts to have a settlement in Ukraine.
We do appreciate efforts of mediation. We do appreciate them. We are very grateful --
PLEITGEN: From the Trump administration?
PESKOV: Of course, of course. But at the same time, it's quite useless to try to press upon us.
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PLEITGEN: And that was Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesman, speaking to me earlier today, Fredricka. Of course, the Russians have been saying that if they are to sign any sort of ceasefire agreement, it will have to take into account Russia's core national security interests, Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: All right. Fred Pleitgen, right there inside the Kremlin. Thank you so much.
Coming up, the Tufts University student who was snatched off the street by federal agents is now free on bail. A live report on what her attorney's hope will happen to her case next.
And later, on the eve of the new pope's first Sunday mass, we'll talk to a priest who went to school with him in Chicago.
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WHITFIELD: The Tufts University student detained in Louisiana for six weeks is now free on bail. A federal judge ordered Rumeysa Ozturk immediately to be released. The PhD student from Turkey was taken into custody last year by masked federal agents.
Ozturk, along with several other international students, are facing deportation after the Trump administration launched a crackdown on international students who participated in campus protests against the war in Gaza.
CNN's Gloria Pazmino is joining me right now with more on all of this. In this case, Gloria, what more can you tell us?
GLORIA PAZMINO, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Fred, what's so important to highlight here in this case is that what you were just describing, that Trump administration effort to target people who have engaged in protests against the war in the past year, was exactly at the heart of this case and exactly at the heart of what Judge Sessions in Vermont said yesterday when he ordered Rumeysa Ozturk to be released.
He said during the hearing yesterday that he had not seen any evidence presented by the government to continue to hold her.
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In fact, he said that the only evidence they had presented so far was that op-ed that she co-authored, which was published in the Tufts University newspaper, in which she was critical, along with other students, of the university's response to the in Gaza.
Judge Sessions described it as that being the case, which he said raised serious concerns about First Amendment rights and her rights to due process. So, Ozturk is now on bail. She is free without any restrictions, but her case is ongoing.
The next step in this process is the judge hearing her habeas petition, which challenges the legality of her detention in the first place, and that will be the next step. In the meantime, her deportation proceedings, Fred, are also still unfolding.
WHITFIELD: All right. Gloria Pazmino, thank you so much.
All right, coming up, more on our top story, the ceasefire between India and Pakistan, the U.S.'s role, and what may need to happen now. A live discussion next.
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WHITFIELD: All right, let's get back to one of our top-ranking news stories, India and Pakistan saying that they have reached a ceasefire agreement. Simmering tensions erupted this weekend, escalating attacks from both sides.
With us now is Bobby Ghosh. He is a geopolitics analyst and journalist. He's also the former editor of the Hindustan Times.
Great to see you.
So, what's it going to take for this ceasefire to hold?
BOBBY GHOSH, GEOPOLITICS ANALYST: Well, first it has to actually take hold. We're still hearing reports about exchanges of fire along the border, particularly on the Indian side of Kashmir. So, we have to first see whether the ceasefire actually takes hold. Then we have to see how long it holds, how long both sides agree to the cessation of hostilities.
The long-term view is that the underlying crisis that leads to these occasional spasms of violence between India and Pakistan, those underlying problems are not being addressed. Primarily, this is to do with the status of Kashmir, a part of India and Pakistan that both countries claim.
There's a piece of it that China claims. But India and Pakistan have gone to war over Kashmir repeatedly. And no matter what kind of ceasefire takes hold, unless those underlying issues are resolved, we will come to this place again.
And the risk always, Fredricka, is that the next time we come to this place, it'll be worse than this one.
WHITFIELD: So, when might those underlying issues be addressed? And who would help either side get to the bottom of it?
GHOSH: Well, the U.S. is claiming, the Trump administration is claiming that it engineered the ceasefire and that it has got both sides to agree to further talks about underlying issues, including presumably Kashmir.
But the Indians are pushing back against it. The Indians are saying, no, this is not something that the Americans organized. We have been in discussion with the Pakistanis and that this agreement for a ceasefire was arrived between India and Pakistan. The Indians are also saying that they have not agreed to any further negotiations in a neutral venue.
India's consistent position all along is that its dispute with Kashmir is not for international mediation. It is something between India and Pakistan. And no outsiders, America or anybody else, would be welcome in that discussion.
And as long as India holds on to that position, I don't see how there can be any forward movement.
WHITFIELD: Well, how instrumental will it be for the U.S. to continue to be a partner in discussions, even though it's being disputed right now? What kind of role specifically this White House played in this ceasefire right now?
Oh, it looks like our signal just froze. Oh, darn. OK.
Well, it looks like we've lost Bobby Ghosh there. We appreciate his insight thus far.
All right. We'll be right back.
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WHITFIELD: All right, this morning Pope Leo XIV made his first public outing and it was a significant one. Visiting the shrine of Our Lady of Good Counsel outside Rome. The site is an Augustinian sanctuary which is run by his religious order. His namesake Leo XIII held a strong devotion to Mary as Our Lady of Good Counsel.
I'm joined now by Father Mark Francis for more insight now. He is the head of the Order of Clerics of St. Viator and went to seminary school, the Catholic Theological Union, in Chicago with Robert Prevost back in 1978.
Father Francis, great to see you. How would you describe the man you once studied with who is now the Pope? If I could say that because you know Chicago and all.
REV, MARK FRANCIS, HEAD OF THE ORDER CLERICS, ST. VIATOR: Well, I just have to say that the man who is now Pope is very restrained, understated. He's not a showboat, doesn't have to be the center of attention. He's wickedly smart and very insightful and he has a very wry sense of humor.
WHITFIELD: Oh, that's lovely. So, you know Pope Leo XIV you know, he's still introducing himself to the world. Do you think his Sunday Mass will be an extension of Friday's homily when he spoke in English about his mission or more like his first speech from the balcony where he spoke in Italian and Spanish and he talked about bridge-building?
FRANCIS: I think he'll probably speak in Italian, that's my guess. Because after all he's been elected Bishop of Rome and the language of Romans in Italy is Italian. But he might at times slide into English but that won't be his main language.
WHITFIELD: People who know him you know from his brothers you know to others including you, you know, who worked with him describe him as so normal like I'm quoting now like one of us. That's been important to him all these years.
What will be the challenge to remain so humble you think?
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FRANCIS: Well, you know I think that it comes by a naturally and, you know, one of the things that I most appreciated about I called we called him Bob in those days was the fact that he was a listener. He, again, as he would not be the center of attention, and he would basically be present and be there to listen to other people. And that's going to keep it's going to keep Pope Leo humble.
WHITFIELD: Leo indicated earlier today that his papacy will follow the precious legacy of the late Pope Francis while also continuing the path of Pope Leo XIII.
So, what does that suggest to you about his priorities?
FRANCIS: Well, the name Leo, you know, is very, very significant, especially Leo XIII, you know, is the pope who wrote one of the foundational encyclicals for Catholic social teaching Rerum Novarum in which it was a very changing time in Europe at the time and basically that encyclical dealt with the labor unions and the economy that kind of thing.
And I'm very certain that Pope Leo is going to be concerned about questions of global poverty, the way in which riches are shared, even within individual countries. He's going to be concerned with the environment because in the environment, you know, and it's the Pope pointed out in Laudato Si, Pope Francis did on Laudato Si and some of the other encyclicals he wrote, the poor are most affected by climate change.
And so, all of these things are going to be a great concern and the whole issue of peace and trying to make peace between warring nations. This is -- that was his initial message when he came out on the Loja (ph) when he was elected there in Chicago. WHITFIELD: What are people at your parish saying? I think I quoted already the Chicago Sun-Times about the Pope, but what are folks saying affectionately or in admiration about him or just the sheer pride that he is a Chicago sun, so to speak?
FRANCIS: Well, no, I think that that's true. You know, I think that there's a difference a little bit of a difference between the South side of the North side, especially since he was pronounced a Sox fan.
WHITFIELD: Yes.
FRANCIS: A lot of the Cubs fan get that with a little disdain. But apart from that, no people -- people are very, very happy and proud that someone that you would bump into in the -- in the neighborhood grocery store or in a gas station or something. This kind of a person has been elected Pope. And that's who we have in Pope Leo.
WHITFIELD: Yes, so lovely. All right, Father Mark Francis. Thank you so much for being with us.
FRANCIS: You're very welcome. My pleasure.
WHITFIELD: All right. What do you get when a fisherman and a drywall contractor sit around talking about what their Oregon town is missing? You get their dream workshop of where everyone is welcome to tool around in today's Start Small Think Big.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My partner Tim (ph) is a commercial fisherman in Alaska and we decided that we wanted to do something different. So, we thought what does bend not have and bend has a little of everything but it didn't have a maker space.
A lot of our equipment is something you already know how to use but there's some stuff that you need to have a little guidance on such as table saws things that can really hurt you. There's no project too large or too small. We've had people in here working on school buses and people here repairing their eyeglasses.
So we have staff who will show you how to use things safely. We offer a range of classes things like 3D printing and laser cutting, welding, woodworking skills that range from the basics all the way up to very advanced woodworking techniques. We have blacksmithing, jewelry making, stained glass.
We've got commercial sewing machines, leatherworking, DIYcave currently has over 400 active members, but that's not counting people who take classes, which is also many hundreds per year. The demographics are kind of shocking. They range from what you would expect like the grizzle haired old workmen all the way down to children and families.
Everybody eventually comes down here and wants to be a maker.
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WHITFIELD: All right, Milwaukee is currently experiencing a lead crisis. Kids in the area have tested positive for high lead levels and public schools may be the culprit.
CNN's chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta is investigating the issue.
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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Any building built before 1978 in America probably has lead based paint in it which could poison kids. Our story starts here, Milwaukee, in January, a kid was found to have four times the amount of lead in their blood as expected. So, they started to investigate and they did not find any lead in the child's home.
And that brought investigators here where for the first time, they were able to link lead poisoning in children to the city's aging schools. Specifically, they found evidence of lead containing paint in the elementary school bathroom.
Since then, at least three more children have tested positive for elevated blood lead levels, and eight schools have also been found to have unsafe lead levels as well.
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In fact, here at West Side Academy, these kids had to be relocated to another school just this week, they found evidence of red flaking paint on the outside and lots of problems on the inside, paint that was flaking on doors and walls and windowsill.
City is now got a big job on their hands. They have to inspect around a hundred buildings. The health commissioner has invited us to come take a look at the lab where they're analyzing a lot of the samples that have been taken from schools.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They will be diluted and then actually tested within this machine. We look at that concentration and decide, OK, can school reopen safely or does it need more time to be closed?
GUPTA: These shavings of paint. They're sweet, they taste sweet. Is that why kids eat them?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. So, they actually have a sweetness to them. So that's why we generally concerned about children under the age of six who are crawling around on the ground and constantly putting things in their mouth.
GUPTA: What is the lead actually doing in the body?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That gets absorbed into the bloodstream. And can cause long-term cognitive delays and behavioral issues.
GUPTA: Do -- do you guys have enough resources to accomplish what you need to do?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have enough of a team right now. I think the long-term investigation into the potential chronic exposures of students at the districts is a part that we were really looking to the CDC to help us with. And unfortunately, HHS had laid off that entire team for childhood light exposure.
These are the -- the best and brightest minds in these areas around lead poisoning and -- and now they're gone.
GUPTA (voice-over): So for now, the city is trying to do the best that they can. In fact, they've set up a testing clinic here at this high school to screen up to 300 children today.
GUPTA: Basically, the kid comes in, they sit down, there's a little lancet here that they do a finger prick test on. The -- it goes into this machine over here and they will get a result back right away. Basically, then telling the parents, look, your kid's lead level may be too high.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Again, I implore you all to shift to prevention, not reaction.
GUPTA: While we are at the screening, a parent led group gathered nearby, making some demands about lead remediation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That my grandchildren have the right to go to school without the threat of exposure to lead.
GUPTA: Now you should know that one of the most cost-effective and straightforward ways to control exposure from old paint is to paint over it. But schools in the school district fell behind, and now the superintendent is under a lot of pressure to get this done.
This is particularly concerning if it's down low like this.
BRENDA CASSELLIUS, MILWAUKEE PUBLIC SCHOOLS SUPERINTENDENT: That's right, because it's, you know, where kids handle their materials and if you're pulling things out, you could certainly this chip, so we remediated these surfaces and then now we have to go back and paint it.
But it's a constant cleaning, a constant upkeep, a constant painting. Painting a room can cost $800. We've got tens of thousands of square feet in just one school. We anticipate this could cost up to $20 million.
GUPTA: Do you have the money?
CASSELLIUS: Well, we -- we do in our reserves. So right now, I'm just saying I need to just spend every dollar. We are working with urgency and we are not sparing any expense because one student with lettuce too many. (END VIDEOTAPE)
WHITFIELD: Sanjay will be back to answer your questions about the story in the 3:00 p.m. Eastern Hour.
And we'll be right back.
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WHITFIELD: All right, your favorite stars take you to their favorite places in the "CNN ORIGINAL SERIES: MY HAPPY PLACE." Join Questlove on a culinary and musical journey through Austin, Texas.
Here's a preview.
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QUESTLOVE, AMERICAN DRUMMER: There is no exaggeration when we tell you that our addiction to buying stuff like this is problematic and --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, this is bad.
QUESTLOVE: -- just doing everything to not just pull out every credit card and buy the whole store.
So, this is how the whole (INAUDIBLE) --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The whole thing. But if you feel -- listen -- feel the pads.
QUESTLOVE: How much is this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This guy's five.
QUESTLOVE: And you do chipping.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh yes. Thank you.
QUESTLOVE: I -- I, you know, I'm like kicking myself because it is -- oh Jesus.
I'd say only buying one machine was a successful display of restraint.
The fact that that's all I purchased.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Aw man. I still won a $440 though.
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All right. Hello again, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.
All right, the mayor of Newark, New Jersey says he is facing charges today after dispute outside an immigration detention center. And the Trump administration says, more public officials could soon be charged.
Video shows the incident beginning when Mayor Ras Baraka. It says he was invited to join a scheduled tour of the facility with three members of the State's congressional delegation. Then as you see him exiting there it is said that federal agents blocked the mayor from reentering there, and then a heated argument would break out. Minutes later, he was arrested.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Set (ph) the mayor. Set (ph) the mayor --
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