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Pakistan Retaliates against "Indian Aggression"; Trump's Trade War; U.S. Immigration Crackdown; Pro-Palestinian Student Released on Bail; European Leaders Meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Kyiv; New U.S. Aid Plan for Gaza to Initially Feed 60 Percent of Population; Pope Leo's Brother Shares Memories; Taylor Swift Subpoenaed in Lively-Baldoni Case. Aired 4-5a ET
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KIM BRUNHUBER, CNN ANCHOR AND CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Welcome to all of you watching us here in the United States, Canada and around the world. I'm Kim Brunhuber. This is CNN NEWSROOM.
India and Pakistan ratchet up tensions as the U.S. offers to mediate. We'll have the latest on the escalation in the conflict.
The first talks since president Trump's trade war are set between U.S. and Chinese officials. We'll take a look at China's red lines.
And CNN learns the White House is looking to potentially challenge one of the most fundamental principles of American law. We'll explain what it is and who it would target.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Live from Atlanta, this is CNN NEWSROOM with Kim Brunhuber.
BRUNHUBER: Hours after an escalation in the conflict between Pakistan and India, Pakistan's foreign minister now says that, if India stops its military actions, then so will Pakistan. His comments come after Pakistan launched strikes against what it says are military targets in India and Indian-administered Kashmir.
Pakistan said it was retaliating for Indian aggression. India, for its part, said it responded effectively to Pakistan's strikes early Saturday. Indian officials confirmed the death of at least one person on Saturday as a result of Pakistan's military operations. We get more details from CNN's Nic Robertson, reporting from Islamabad.
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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: The latest is the military here, the security, although we can't confirm it, saying that they've hit eight air bases inside of India and Indian-controlled Kashmir. Important distinction. These are India proper as well as Indian-controlled Kashmir.
And those air bases, at one of them, they say that they've hit a sophisticated air defense system; at another one, that they say that they've taken out a missile storage facility.
They also say, Pakistani security officials here also say that they have hit at least four different Indian army military bases close to the line of control in Indian-controlled Kashmir.
The news came to people here in Pakistan very early this morning, breaking full-voice, full-throttled response was what the news announcer called it on television, sounding very jingoistic on the national state media here, Pakistan Television, PTV, announcing that the country had gone to war in response for these attacks overnight from India.
Calling on Muslims not only in Pakistan but Muslims in India and Muslims in Bangladesh, in the Muslim majority country and the east of India, to rise up against India. So this is very strong messaging, very strong videos that are being released by security officials here.
And a very, very strong response, it appears at this stage to the last several days of Indian attacks, it does appear as if this country is entering a sort of a new era in this conflict.
Only yesterday, officials here were telling us that there was a sort of a pause for diplomacy. The Saudi Arabian deputy foreign minister flew in here. Interestingly or significantly, the airport that he flew into and out of, six miles from here, yesterday, that was that one of the airports that was targeted by India early in the morning.
And there's new diplomacy in play. U.S. secretary of state Marco Rubio today reaching out to the army commander here, effectively now the military is underway with this war, with this military response to India, the most powerful man at the moment, you might argue, in Pakistan.
U.S. secretary of state Marco Rubio reaching out to him, talking about finding ways to not escalate this and offering U.S. support to help deescalate the first such offer coming in here as tensions take a significant upturn.
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BRUNHUBER: For more on all this, I'm joined by journalist Vedika Sud in Delhi.
So Vedika, is there any more optimism at this hour about de- escalation?
VEDIKA SUD, JOURNALIST: Well, there's a lot that has been said in a press conference that was fronted by India's foreign secretary and two representatives from the military, as well as the Indian air force.
I want to take you through some of the claims they have made after Pakistan came out with all that they said, that Nic just mentioned. India has said that it has effectively countered and responded to Pakistan's military op. They claim, like you even said, that this was initiated.
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The aggression was initiated by Pakistan overnight Saturday. Now what India claims is that 26 locations were hit in Indian-administered Kashmir and beyond inside India. And they have also come out to say that four air base areas in northern India have received limited damage in terms of equipment and personnel.
What's interesting also is that India, for the first time in the last week, has said that they targeted some military sites in Pakistan as well. In the press conference, they mentioned at least six of these sites.
Now as you can see, tensions between the two are really spiking at this hour. And there are a lot of international community stakeholders who are trying to weigh in at this point.
Before I get to those details, I did speak to Michael Kugelman, who is a columnist with the "Foreign Policy" magazine and asked him if deescalation at this point was possible through a third party. Here's what he had to say.
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MICHAEL KUGELMAN, "FOREIGN POLICY": The state of play on the battlefield, given how much anger there is in both capitals, given how uncompromising leaders from both countries sound, my sense is that, in the immediate term, it's quite unlikely that there would be bilateral efforts toward de-escalation.
Suggesting that the need for international mediation has grown more important.
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SUD: Importantly, the U.S. secretary of state has spoken to both the Pakistani army chief, the main man in Pakistan, and has reached out for thoughts and possible reasons to deescalate, is what he is saying to him, that there should be de-escalation at this point.
On the other hand, the U.S. secretary of state has also spoken with the foreign minister of India, S. Jaishankar, who put out the statement on X, acknowledging that call from the U.S. state secretary and saying that India is, of course, doing all it can at this point. But no word really on de-escalation from both sides.
You have the European Union as well as G7 ministers also asking for deescalation from both countries. But this is day four and we're seeing military offensives being claimed by both India and Pakistan on the other side of the border. Back to you.
BRUNHUBER: All right. I appreciate you keeping us in the loop here as to the latest developments in Delhi. Thank you so much. U.S. officials have landed in Switzerland for crucial trade talks with
their Chinese counterparts, the first such discussion since president Donald Trump imposed historically high tariffs on China.
The president says Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has been given a number indicating how low he's willing to go on tariffs but he didn't share with reporters on Friday. Listen.
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TRUMP: We lost $1 trillion last year with China, $1 trillion. So if you're not going to do business with them, you're not going to lose $1 trillion. But we lost. I just want -- I want China to do great. You know, I'm very friendly with president Xi. I have great respect for him and for China. But we can't continue to allow them to do what they did.
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BRUNHUBER: President Trump laid out some of his demands on Truth Social. He said China must import more U.S. goods. If China agrees, then he says the U.S. should cut tariffs from 145 percent to 80 percent on Chinese goods.
Ahead of the talks, U.S. markets closed the week mixed. The Dow and S&P 500 ended Friday in the red, with the Nasdaq barely in the green. CNN's Kristen Holmes has more now on what to expect from the trade talks this weekend.
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KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: U.S. officials have landed in Switzerland ahead of those talks with their Chinese counterparts.
We were told by administration officials that we should lower our expectations, essentially tempering (sic) down expectations, saying that there wouldn't be a deal or was unlikely to be a deal. Instead, that this was more the beginning of de-escalation.
Of course, we are basically a standstill between China and the U.S. with those 145 percent tariffs on Chinese imports.
Now Donald Trump seemed to soften some of his rhetoric around those tariffs earlier on Friday, saying 80 percent tariff on China seems right;, up to Scott B., referring there, of course, to his Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent.
Later, Karoline Leavitt clarified those remarks, saying that 80 percent was only on the table likely if China made some concessions. Here's what she said.
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KAROLINE LEAVITT, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The president still remains with his position that he's not going to unilaterally bring down tariffs on China. We need to see concessions from them as well.
And again, that's part of the reason that Secretary Bessent is going to talk to his Chinese counterparts this weekend to start those discussions in person.
As for the 80 percent number, that was a number the president threw out there and we'll see what happens this weekend.
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HOLMES: And president Trump did tell me that he has given Scott Bessent a number of how low the U.S. is willing to go on those tariffs, although, of course, he would not share what that number is.
And while these administration officials have continued to try to play down what was going to come out of this meeting, of these conversations, Donald Trump said that he believed a fair deal would come out of this at the end of the day.
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Of course, that again raises the bar for Scott Bessent and that team on the ground in Switzerland. We will be watching and waiting to see what, if anything, comes out of these talks, the first major talks between these two superpowers -- Kristen Holmes, CNN, the White House.
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BRUNHUBER: And for more on this, I want to bring in Ja Ian Chong, associate professor of political science at the National University of Singapore. And he's also a nonresident scholar at Carnegie China.
Thank you so much for being here with us. So one wonders how the two sides will come to any agreement when they can't even agree who approached whom in the first place.
So before we get to the substance here, what do you make of the seemingly trivial question?
It seems to get sort of to a larger truth here about the appearance of strength and who might have the upper hand in negotiations.
JA IAN CHONG, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE, NATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SINGAPORE: Absolutely. So the two sides both want to start off with a strong suit.
They want to show the other side that they have resolved.
And hopefully get the other side to give in a little bit. So that's the dance that we've been seeing so far. I guess now that the two sides are meeting, they will try to probe each other a little bit. But I think in terms of the language and the rhetoric, there is a very -- it's very unlikely that either side would want to seem to be the weaker side.
BRUNHUBER: All right. So from China's perspective, then, what concessions are they looking for, what are they willing to give and what are their red lines.
CHONG: So in an ideal world, I guess the PRC would like to move things back to, you know, before the first Trump term, where they had more open trade with the United States.
But I think they've come around to the fact that that is probably less possible. And I guess they're trying to probe and see how far the U.S. is willing to go if, you know, the U.S. is talking about 80 percent tariffs.
What do they have to give in return?
That's not entirely clear at this point. The Chinese side would want to figure that out.
And I guess at the same time, the U.S. side want to figure out, you know, what the Chinese side is willing to give. So there are some ballpark figures out there. But I expect there to be a lot of talk and bluster and sort of a bit of sharp elbowing to get us to some point of initial understanding.
BRUNHUBER: Yes. The U.S. clearly feeling the pinch already.
But economically for China, what's at stake right now?
CHONG: Right. So both sides start this round of the trade war with some liabilities. The PRC side they've been experiencing, for a prolonged period now, low consumption, low investment, high local debt and also high youth unemployment that has had a dampening effect on their growth rates.
Of course, the Chinese Communist Party is worried that, if growth gets too low, that could affect social stability and their grip on power. So there's, you know, there's some pressure on the Chinese side. But I think they are -- they also think that they can withstand U.S. pressure for now and probably outlast the U.S.
BRUNHUBER: Interesting. So despite the fact that the Communist Party has such an iron grip on the country, they still sort of fear the repercussions here.
In the meantime, when you widen it out, how is this trade war affecting regional dynamics, especially considering China was warning its neighboring countries against making deals with the U.S. at China's expense?
CHONG: Right. So I think neighboring countries are very much -- they're very anxious. They're very much -- they very much have a feeling of unease over this whole trade war. There's pressure coming from Beijing. There's also pressure coming from Washington.
Washington also made a warning about not you know, helping Beijing out on this.
The -- one of the reasons why Beijing's neighbors are so concerned is because the way that their business model, so to speak, has really profited over the past decades is by being really successful middlemen, bringing together markets and businesses and capital from the U.S. and China and, you know, finding a middle ground.
Now that sort of ecosystem, if you will, that circulation has broken down. And it's unclear what will come next. They're not clear how to invest. If they're looking at China as a potential market because of the tariffs from the U.S. well, that low consumption, that might mean that, you know, there's less opportunity there.
There's also concern that, if China diverts its trade to its neighbors, there can be questions of overcapacity as well. So it's a really difficult environment to navigate.
BRUNHUBER: Yes. And it just underscores what's at stake here for everyone. I mean, no matter who's seen to cave here, no matter who might lose face, a deal, if one comes, is good not just for both countries but for the entire world economy.
CHONG: Right. So I think the world economy would benefit. But I guess we're getting also into an issue of relative gains. I guess, you know, both the U.S. and the PRC don't want to lose out.
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They don't want to be seen also as losing out more to the other. So that makes, you know, getting to some sort of arrangement, even though they have a sort of similar goal, a lot more challenging than they otherwise might be.
BRUNHUBER: Interesting. Really appreciate getting your perspective on all of this. Ja Ian Chong in Singapore, thank you so much.
CHONG: Absolutely.
BRUNHUBER: Well, sources tell CNN that president Trump is in talks to suspend a legal proceeding that's part of the Constitution. Ahead, we'll explain habeas corpus and how Trump's actions could affect every American.
Plus, an international student in the U.S. was detained after writing a pro-Palestinian newspaper column. But now she scored a major legal victory. We'll have those stories and more coming up. Stay with us.
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BRUNHUBER: President Donald Trump has been involved in talks about possibly suspending habeas corpus. That's according to two people familiar with those talks. Habeas corpus is part of the U.S. Constitution. It allows anyone who is in custody to force the government to explain in court why they've been detained.
Now here's how habeas corpus appears in the Constitution. "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended
unless when, in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it."
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A suspension would allow the government to detain migrants and possibly anyone with no justification.
Habeas corpus has been suspended four times in U.S. history: during the Civil War, during Reconstruction in South Carolina; after the war, during a rebellion in the Philippines, when the U.S. controlled the islands; and during World War II. Here's what White House deputy chief of staff told reporters on Friday.
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STEPHEN MILLER, WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF: Well, the Constitution is clear and that, of course, is the supreme law of the land, that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So I would say that's an option we're actively looking at.
Look, a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not. At the end of the day, Congress passed a body of law, known as the Immigration and Nationality Act, which stripped Article III courts, that's the judicial branch, of jurisdiction over immigration cases.
So Congress actually passed, it's called jurisdiction-stripping legislation, it passed a number of laws that say that the Article III courts aren't even allowed to be involved in immigration cases.
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BRUNHUBER: Now president Trump hasn't specifically mentioned suspending habeas corpus in public but he has alluded to it. Here's what he said two weeks ago about court orders demanding that migrants get hearings before being deported.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: There are ways to mitigate it and there's some very strong ways. There's one way that's been used by three very highly-respected presidents but we hope we don't have to go that route.
But there is one way that's has been used very successfully by three presidents -- all highly-respected -- and hopefully we don't have to go that way. But there are ways of mitigating that.
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BRUNHUBER: CNN's senior legal analyst Elie Honig is a former U.S. attorney. He says Stephen Miller is wrong about being able to suspend habeas corpus. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ELIE HONIG, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Dead wrong. Crazy dangerous.
Let's start with the Constitution itself. What Stephen Miller says essentially is, The Constitution gives us the right to do this, to suspend the writ of habeas corpus, which, by the way, just means the ability to go to court to challenge a detention.
He's saying, The Constitution tells us we can suspend that.
But if you look at the actual Constitution, Article I is a restriction. It says we should not withdraw the writ of habeas corpus unless there is a rebellion or an invasion and the public safety is threatened.
Congress is - the Constitution sets the bar incredibly high there and the history bears it out.
It's been used very carefully, in real invasions, narrowly geographically.
If you look at the history and the way this is set up, the stronger legal belief here is that Congress has to actually suspend the writ of habeas corpus. The president cannot do it himself.
In three of the four times, everyone but the Civil War, it was actually Congress that did it. There's an opinion, from years ago, where Justice Scalia -- so this is not some liberal view. Justice Scalia said it has to come from Congress.
And by the way, if you look at where that provision is in the Constitution, it's Article I. That's what gives Congress its right.
So I think the first argument here is, You can't do this yourself, Mr. President. That has to be done by Congress.
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BRUNHUBER: A Turkish student detained after writing a pro-Palestinian op-ed in the U.S. is free again. Rumeysa Ozturk walked out of a detention center in Louisiana on Friday, where she spent six weeks behind bars. As Omar Jimenez reports, she was freed hours after a major court ruling in her case.
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OMAR JIMENEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A federal judge in Vermont ordered the immediate release of Rumeysa Ozturk, the Tufts University student from Turkiye, who, if you remember, was taken into custody by immigration officials now weeks ago to this point.
So this particular hearing was a big deal because it was -- we were going to find out whether she would actually be able to be released and, in some respects, find out what evidence the government had to try to keep her in detention. Now throughout all of this attorneys for Ozturk have said the
government's only evidence is an op-ed that Ozturk coauthored, essentially criticizing Tufts University's response to the war in Gaza.
Now the Trump administration, the government has said, on the other hand, vaguely, they have said that Ozturk participated in activities in support of Hamas, though she has not been charged with any crime to this point.
I want you to listen to one of -- one of the attorneys who was in court in support of Ozturk during this bail hearing as to what she said following the hearing.
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NOOR ZAFAR, SENIOR STAFF ATTORNEY, ACLU: The government has literally only one single piece of evidence for detaining Rumeysa and that is the op-ed that she wrote in her student in her student newspaper, expressing views that the government disagrees with or dislikes.
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JIMENEZ: And the judge agreed. I want to quote from him here, where he says, quote, "There is no evidence here as to the motivation, absent the consideration of the op-ed."
And the judge even went so far as to really touch on the implications of this case.
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Saying at one point, "Continued detention of Ozturk potentially chills the speech of the millions and millions of individuals in this country who are not citizens."
So clearly, again, the stakes laid out in at least a portion of this particular hearing. And this is also significant.
This order or this decision by the judge, because it's at least the second high-profile activist or student who's not a citizen who was detained by the Trump administration under that pretense of allegedly participating in activities in support of Hamas.
And the second in at least as many weeks to be released or at least ordered released by a judge -- Omar Jimenez, CNN, New York.
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BRUNHUBER: The mayor of Newark, New Jersey, Ras Baraka, has been released after his arrest by U.S. immigration agents. He was detained during a protest at the opening of a federal detention facility. That is him in the brown coat and black cap.
The Democratic mayor had attempted to join a New Jersey congressional delegation seeking to inspect the facility. Baraka told CNN that he's been charged with federal trespass and said the arrest was humiliating.
Interim U.S. attorney for New Jersey, Alina Habba, posted that Baraka committed trespass, ignored warnings and willingly chose to disregard the law. Baraka disputed that characterization when he spoke to CNN. Here he is.
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MAYOR RAS BARAKA, NEWARK, NEW JERSEY: I came to attend the press conference as I was asked to. You know, obviously, I -- you know, ICE made -- after a while, made determination after somebody came and said that we shouldn't be there and began to -- after they told us to leave, we left and they began to arrest -- try to arrest me.
I shouldn't say us. They targeted me and came after me specifically and arrested me.
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BRUNHUBER: Witnesses say after federal agents had blocked his entry and they argued, Baraka retreated. He was released shortly afterwards on Friday evening.
A federal judge has halted drastic cuts to U.S. agencies being carried out under executive orders by Donald Trump.
On Friday evening, the senior district judge granted a temporary restraining order sought by federal employee unions, local governments and organizations that rely on federal services. They argue the administration is acting outside the law.
The order lasts for two weeks. It blocks the administration's approval or implementation of plans for conducting mass layoffs. It also pauses any orders from DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, which would cut programs or staff in line with the president's executive orders.
The leaders of the U.K., France and Germany are in Ukraine right now. We'll have more on their meeting with Volodymyr Zelenskyy ahead here on CNN NEWSROOM. Please stay with us.
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BRUNHUBER (voice-over): Welcome back to all of you watching us here in the United States, Canada and all around the world. I'm Kim Brunhuber. This is CNN NEWSROOM.
A number of European leaders are in Kyiv meeting with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy. They are members of the so-called coalition of the willing, helping Ukraine stand up to Russia. Leaders of the U.K., France and Germany arrived in Kyiv by train a
short time ago. Then they took part in a candle ceremony with President Zelenskyy. They're planning to discuss a proposed 30-day ceasefire between the two sides.
U.S. President Donald Trump spoke with several European leaders on Thursday and they discussed the ceasefire proposal and possible new sanctions on Russia. Here he is.
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TRUMP: I have a message for both parties. Get this war ended. We're losing 5,000 soldiers a week. Russian and Ukrainian soldiers and other people also, by the way. And I say, get this stupid war finished. That's my message for both of them.
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BRUNHUBER: Putin's spokesperson said Russia has always supported the 30-day ceasefire proposal. But he says certain nuances must be addressed. He didn't say what those might be.
Putin met with a number of world leaders on Friday, including China's Xi Jinping. They helped him mark Russia's victory day. CNN's Fred Pleitgen has more from Moscow.
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FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice- over): As Russia puts on a massive parade to mark 80 years since the defeat of Nazi Germany, Russian Leader Vladimir Putin and his guest of honor, China's Xi Jinping, closer than ever, side by side, wearing patriotic Russian ribbons.
As Putin vows Russia will win in Ukraine as well.
VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): Our whole country, society and people support the participants of the special military operation. We are proud of their courage, determination and power of spirit that has always only brought us victory.
PLEITGEN: And the Russians flashing the top weapons in their arsenal, from jet fighters to drones heavily used in the battles in Ukraine to intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of carrying some of the most deadly nuclear warheads.
While this parade is there to commemorate 80 years since the defeat of Nazi Germany in World War II, it's also a show of force by the Kremlin saying that its forces are inching closer to victory in Ukraine.
Moscow, buoyed by recent battlefield successes, all but completely ousting Ukrainian troops from Russia's Kursk region with a lot of help from North Korean soldiers.
Putin, showing his gratitude, embracing a senior member of Kim Jong U.N.'s general staff. PUTIN: Congratulations and all the best wishes to all your warriors.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're putting a lot of pressure on Russia.
PLEITGEN: While President Trump has once again called for a 30-day ceasefire and threatened more sanctions if its broken, a senior Russian senator making clear to me it's the Kremlin that's calling the shots.
Do you believe that President Trump can still broker a peace deal?
KONSTANTIN KOSACHEV, RUSSIAN SENATOR: He is most welcome. He is most welcome to do what he can do. But, of course, we have our basic interests in this crisis and we will not give up these interests just for the reason somebody in Washington or elsewhere sees this or that about the crisis.
PLEITGEN: And Putin and Xi have made clear nobody will get between them. Laying flowers at the tomb of the unknown soldier, vowing to stand together, facing down threats from the Trump administration.
Fred Pleitgen, CNN, Moscow.
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BRUNHUBER: The United Nations says the U.S.-Israeli plan to start delivering food to Gaza has no chance of working. The U.S. announced the plan on Friday but admitted it will initially feed only 60 percent of the population. The plan calls for setting up four distribution sites for the entire enclave, which has more than 2 million people.
A private foundation and military contractors supposedly would prevent food from falling into the hands of Hamas, according to the U.S. ambassador. The IDF would also play a role. Here he is.
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MIKE HUCKABEE, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO ISRAEL: I want to say the Israelis are going to be involved in providing necessary military security because it is a war zone. But they will not be involved in the distribution of the food or even in the bringing of the food into Gaza.
Their role will remain on the perimeter, as is necessary, to make sure that those who are bringing the food in and who are distributing the food are kept safe and out of harm's way in the midst of a war zone.
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BRUNHUBER: Desperation is growing in Gaza as Israel's blockade has prevented any food from coming in since March. Now this video shows people scrambling for food at a community kitchen in southern Gaza. The U.S. says the U.S.-Israeli plan would facilitate Israel's push to move Palestinians to the south.
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JAMES ELDER, SPOKESPERSON, UNICEF: The use of humanitarian aid as a bait to force displacement, especially from the north to the south, will create this impossible choice between displacement and death.
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BRUNHUBER: Donald Trump's special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, is expected to attend a fourth round of nuclear talks with Iran this weekend.
But he says, if the talks aren't productive, they won't continue and the U.S. will, quote, "have to take a different route."
The talks are scheduled to take place in Oman on Sunday. Witkoff told Breitbart News that Iran's uranium enrichment program is a red line for the U.S. But Iran says the program isn't negotiable.
And U.S. president Donald Trump is preparing to head to the Middle East next week. And sources say his administration is turning to his son-in-law for advice. Jared Kushner was the chief Middle East negotiator during Trump's first term. Now he's advising administration officials on negotiations with Arab leaders, according to those sources.
They say Trump's priority is to advance economic agreements. But privately, Kushner and others are reportedly hoping to expand the Abraham Accords, the treaties negotiated in Trump's first term. They normalized Israel's relations with four Muslim countries in the region.
So while Catholics around the world are celebrating the new pope, an Illinois man is watching his brother take over one of the revered roles in the world.
Coming up, Pope Leo XIV's brother shares his thoughts on the new head of the Catholic Church. Plus an American cardinal weighs in on what Pope Leo's elevation means for the U.S. Catholic Church. Stay with us.
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BRUNHUBER (voice-over): Pope Leo XIV has a packed schedule in the coming days and weeks as the first U.S.-born pontiff for 1.4 billion Catholics around the world. And many are wondering if Pope Leo will follow in the footsteps of his predecessor, Pope Francis. CNN's Christopher Lamb has more.
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CHRISTOPHER LAMB, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Pope Leo XIV, leading his first mass since his election as pope in the Sistine Chapel, speaking to the cardinals who elected him just one day earlier.
POPE LEO XIV, CATHOLIC CHURCH: Through the ministry of Peter, you have called me to carry that cross and to be blessed with that mission and I know I can rely on each and every one of you to walk with me. As we continue as a church, as a community of friends of Jesus, as believers, to announce the good news, to announce the gospel.
LAMB: The 69-year-old American born pope began his homily with a few words in English before switching over to Italian. Leo signaling he'll follow the path of Pope Francis, the man who appointed him bishop of Chiclayo in Peru.
POPE LEO XIV (through translator): These are contexts where it is not easy to preach the gospel and bear witness to its truth, where believers are mocked, opposed, despised or at best tolerated and pitied.
Yet precisely for this reason, they are the places where our missionary outreach is desperately needed.
LAMB: The American cardinals, talking about one of their own, taking over the leadership of the church.
CARDINAL JOSEPH TOBIN, ARCHBISHOP OF NEWARK: I don't think he's one that likes to pick fights with people. But he is not one to -- to back down if the cause is just. He really is a listener. And then he acts once he's heard.
LAMB: Each new pope has issued the fisherman's ring. So far, we have not seen Leo's ring. But we know Pope Francis was given his during his inauguration mass in 2013, so he may get a glimpse of it Sunday.
As for where he will live, the pope is undecided. It will either be the apostolic palace where many popes have resided or the Casa Santa Marta where Pope Francis chose to live.
The Vatican releases agenda for the rest of May that includes meeting with the College of Cardinals tomorrow, reciting the Regina caeli prayer from the main balcony of St. Peter's Basilica on Sunday and meeting with journalists from around the world Monday.
On May 18th, he'll be formally installed as pope during a special inaugural public mass held at St. Peter's Square. His first general audience will take place on May 21st but perhaps what most Catholics around the world are eager to know is what approach will he take when it comes to matters of church reform? -- Christopher Lamb CNN, Rome.
(END VIDEOTAPE) BRUNHUBER: CNN's Erin Burnett spoke to the archbishop of New York about what an American pope could mean for the Catholic Church in the United States. Listen to this.
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ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: Well, is this a transformative moment, do you think? How does this is this going to be more than just a moment of exhilaration and become something where there is a true change in the Catholic Church in the United States with more, more priests, more people coming to church, more baptisms?
CARDINAL TIMOTHY DOLAN, ARCHBISHOP OF NEW YORK: Let's hope so. "Speriamo," as the Italians say. Let's hope so.
I think it could be. First of all, I mean, even whoever was elected pope, we know that this is always a moment for like Catholics that maybe have drifted away to say, you know what? I belong to that family, too. I should begin to take it a little more seriously.
Will it be magnified now because we have a pope from the United States? I wouldn't doubt it. You know what's going to dawn on people? We've grown up.
The rest of the world looks to the Catholic Church in the United States, bambino. We're babies. We haven't been around that long. Our first bishop was 1789. OK? When you're compared to this church. So they're going to say, hey, we're kind of mature adults. Now, let's begin to take this seriously, I hope.
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BRUNHUBER: Decades before he was making history as the new leader of the Catholic Church, Pope Leo was a young boy growing up with his family in Illinois. The brother of the first American pope gives us a look back.
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CNN's Whitney Wild reports.
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WHITNEY WILD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So -- and this is your mother?
Wow. You guys really look like your mom?
JOHN PREVOST, POPE LEO XIV'S BROTHER: Yes.
WILD: Yes. He really takes after your mother.
PREVOST: Yes.
WILD (voice-over): John Prevost remembers the days when now Pope Leo XIV was known simply as Rob.
Did he teach you anything as a person, as a child?
PREVOST: Stand up for what you believe in.
WILD: He was the youngest of three boys spread just four years apart. Music filled their home. Pope Leo learned to play the organ, his brother did too.
PREVOST: He would take these lessons and come home and teach me. Our mom had almost an operatic voice and so she was very active in our church choir.
WILD: Prevost says his brother always knew he would one day become a priest and was guided to the papacy.
PREVOST: Not that he necessarily was looking for the job but if that's what God wants, then he will do it.
This is his ordination and his first blessing went to our mother. That's when he became a cardinal.
WILD: The pope's chosen path began early.
PREVOST: When the now pope graduated eighth grade, he was off to seminary already. It's bittersweet in a sense that when we dropped him off for freshman year of high school, the ride home was very sad.
Now it's even worse in the sense that will we ever get to see him unless we go over to Rome. You know what I mean?
WILD: How does that feel as a brother?
PREVOST: It's hard. Yes, it's hard.
WILD: How do you cope with that?
PREVOST: You just have to. You know, there's no other option.
WILD: Did your mom or dad ever try to talk him out of it?
PREVOST: No, because he knew at such a young age that this is what he wanted. No one was going to talk him out of it.
WILD: Pope Leo assumes his position at a fraught political time around the world and in his home country. PREVOST: I don't think he's really happy with what's going on in terms of immigration in this country. It's not really human to be treating other humans the way some of them are being treated and I think that will become an issue he'll talk about.
WILD: Prevost says he talks to his brother every day and deeply under, understands the weight of the pope's role as well.
How do you move through this life with this brother who means so much to the world?
PREVOST: It's very awesome. You know, it's a very great honor. But with honor comes great responsibility.
WILD: Whitney Wild, CNN, New Lenox, Illinois.
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BRUNHUBER: And a popular hot dog joint in Chicago is relishing its link to the new favorite son of the city, Pope Leo XIV. The Wieners Circle restaurant proudly displayed the Latin phrase, "for he has eaten our dogs."
The pope was born in the Windy City, known for its sassy service and late-night hours. Its longtime manager, Evelyn Morris, has faith the pope-inspired shoutout will bring in even more customers.
The Wieners Circle has been serving up laughs and dogs for more than 40 years and it looks like they're about to get a whole lot busier.
We'll be right back.
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BRUNHUBER: Newark Liberty International Airport has had another air traffic control outage. The blackout early on Friday morning included a complete loss of radar for about 90 seconds. The Trump administration says it's working on the problem.
That outage is the latest in a series of technical problems that have plagued U.S. air travel and Newark's airport. An incident there last week prompted a number of controllers to take trauma leave. On Thursday, the Transportation Department said it would overhaul the nation's air traffic control system.
Mexico is suing Google over its decision to change the name Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America on its maps for U.S. users. The move follows president Donald Trump's executive order in January to decree the name change in a similar move by American lawmakers.
Mexican president Claudia Sheinbaum clarified, her nation isn't seeking to block the name change entirely. It simply wants the Gulf of America label limited to the U.S. Continental Shelf. CNN has contacted Google and Mexican authorities and is awaiting a response.
The ex-girlfriend of Sean "Diddy" Combs could take the stand as early as Monday in the music mogul's federal trial. Prosecutors say the testimony of Cassie Ventura, who dated Combs for over a decade, will take up most of the week. CNN's Leigh Waldman has more from New York.
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LEIGH WALDMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Eight months after embattled music mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs was arrested on federal charges, his trial is getting underway.
Combs faces life in prison if he's found guilty on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution. He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
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DAMIAN WILLIAMS, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK: Between at least 2008 and the present, Combs abused, threatened and coerced victims to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation and conceal his conduct.
WALDMAN (voice-over): Jurors will hear from some of those alleged victims, including Combs ex-girlfriend, Cassie Ventura, who is seen in this disturbing hotel surveillance footage, being kicked and dragged by Combs back in 2016. A judge ruled this video will be shown to the jury, despite numerous attempts by the defense to have it excluded.
SEAN COMBS, MUSIC MOGUL: I mean, I hit rock bottom but I make no excuses.
My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
WALDMAN (voice-over): Ventura is referred to as Victim One in the indictment but will testify using her real name. Prosecutors allege Combs coerced her and at least two other women into having sex with him and male prostitutes, according to the federal indictment. Combs' attorneys have argued the sex was consensual.
The indictment alleges two federal searches of Combs homes where law enforcement seized various items used in sexual encounters, known as freak-offs, including narcotics and more than 1,000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant -- in New York, I'm Leigh Waldman.
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BRUNHUBER: Pop star Taylor Swift has been subpoenaed in the legal dispute between actors Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
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Lively filed a complaint in California accusing Baldoni of sexual harassment and retaliation. She later filed a lawsuit against him. Baldoni was her director and costar of the film, "It Ends with Us."
Baldoni denies the allegations. He filed a $400 million countersuit, accusing Lively and her husband, Ryan Reynolds, of defamation. A spokesperson for Swift says the singer wasn't involved with the film beyond allowing one of her songs to be used. Swift and Lively are said to be longtime friends. The case is set to go to trial next March.
English researchers are judging one book by its cover and calling it a rare literary find. Have a look.
Two pages of a 13th century sequel to the legend of King Arthur were uncovered by specialists at the Cambridge University library in England. The handwritten pages were hiding as the cover on another book.
They were too brittle to be removed from the books binding, so researchers digitally scanned them to unfold and read them virtually. They say the methodology developed for this project can be applied to other fragile manuscripts.
Well, the conference semifinals in the NBA playoffs are heating up on Saturday. The Denver Nuggets took the Oklahoma City Thunder to overtime, thanks to this Aaron Gordon three-pointer.
The Nuggets went on to win the game 113-104. They now lead the series 2-1. And in Indianapolis, the Cavs' Donovan Mitchell refused to lose. He put up 43 points to lead the victory over the Pacers 126-104 but Pacers still lead that series 2-1.
All right. That wraps this hour of CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Kim Brunhuber. I'll be back with more news in just a moment.