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Netanyahu Hopes Hostages To Be Released Within Days; Trump Team Heads To Cairo For Gaza Peace Negotiations; Shutdown Affecting Federal Workers, Military Working Without Pay; Protesters Face Off With Federal Agents In Chicago; Judge To Decide If National Guard Can Deploy To Portland; Chicago Alderperson Says ICE Agents Handcuffed Her At Hospital, Sean "Diddy" Combs Begins His Four Plus Years Sentence; Big Week For Bad Bunny. Aired 7-8p ET

Aired October 04, 2025 - 19:00   ET

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JESSICA DEAN, CNN ANCHOR: You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. Hi, everyone. I'm Jessica Dean here in New York.

Israel's prime minister says he's hopeful all of the Israeli hostages held by Hamas, living and dead, will be released in a matter of days as part of President Trump's plan to end the war in Gaza.

Hamas kidnaped 251 people from Israel on October 7th of 2023, more than 200 of them have been returned. 148 of those alive, but there are still 47 people still being held captive. And under this deal, they would all be released, including 20 people assumed to be alive and the remains of the 27 others. Israel also wants the remains of one of its soldiers who was killed more than 10 years ago as well.

Let's go now to Jeremy Diamond. He has more from Tel Aviv -- Jeremy.

JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Tens of thousands of Israelis took to the streets of Tel Aviv on Saturday night in what has become a rare moment of hope and optimism in Israel, and perhaps in the region at large. Both Israel and Hamas seemingly willing to move forward with negotiations and perhaps even with this deal that could end the war in Gaza and secure the release of all 48 hostages still being held there.

The Israeli prime minister addressing the Israeli public as those protests were taking place, striking quite an optimistic tone. The Israeli prime minister saying that he hopes that he will be able to come back to the Israeli public during the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, a weeklong holiday that begins on Monday, and be able to announce the good news that all 48 hostages are being returned to Israel.

The prime minister said that he is dispatching a negotiating team led by his closest adviser, the Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer, to Egypt in the coming days in order to try and close this deal. The prime minister said that his goal is going to be to try and limit these negotiations to a matter of days rather than weeks, saying that he will be trying to prevent any stalling tactics from Hamas. We have heard Hamas, of course, express its willingness to release all

48 hostages right up front at the beginning of a ceasefire, according to the terms of President Trump's 20-point plan to end this war. They have said that they're willing to enter into immediate negotiations over this. And we know that a Hamas delegation was indeed set to arrive in Cairo on Saturday night. And so it seems like these negotiations are indeed going to move forward with President Trump saying that a ceasefire can take immediate effect once Hamas approves the Israeli withdrawal lines for the first phase of this agreement.

But make no mistake, despite the momentum and the optimism that is certainly in the air, despite the fact that this moment really does feel different from any other, there are going to be some very tough sticking points to discuss in these negotiations, beginning with those withdrawal lines. The map that President Trump has put forward on social media, these really seem to be the kind of deepest Israeli lines within Gaza for any potential withdrawal that have been discussed over the course of ceasefire negotiations.

And so you can bet that Hamas is going to want to counter those. Beyond that, of course, we also know that Hamas in its statements has yet to actually say whether it is willing to disarm, and disarming and Gaza being demilitarized are requirements for the United States and for Israel in order to see this war actually end. And so all of those issues are going to need to be discussed in what are set to be very intense negotiations set to begin in the Egyptian capital of Cairo.

But I can tell you from speaking with some of the hostage families on Saturday night, there is a sense of hope and optimism, something that has been sorely missing now for much of the last two years.

Jeremy Diamond, CNN, Tel Aviv.

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DEAN: Jeremy, thank you.

And tonight, President Trump's special Mideast envoy, Steve Witkoff, and the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, are both headed to Egypt for those negotiations. Kushner, you'll remember, helped lead Middle East policy in the first Trump administration and helped broker the Abraham Accords, normalizing the relationship between Israel and several Arab states.

Let's bring in Julia Benbrook from the White House now.

Julia, Hamas is expected to push back against several elements of this peace plan. The call to disarm and also the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

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It's a map that President Trump posted a little bit ago. Tell us more about what you're learning about this -- the state of everything right now. JULIA BENBROOK, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: And Jessica, in a post

earlier in the day from President Donald Trump, he said that Israel had agreed to temporarily stop the bombing in order to see if the hostage release and a peace plan could be possible. In that same post, Trump warned Hamas that it needs to move quickly or, quote, "all bets will be off."

Now there are still a lot of questions here as to how or when there could be a lasting peace agreement. As Jeremy pointed out, there's pushback against those withdrawal lines that Trump posted this evening. There may be pushback, I should say, excuse me. But there are a lot of questions. There has been momentum, though, and we saw Trump host Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu here at the White House on Monday.

The two of them sat down for a bilateral meeting. And then in a joint press conference, Netanyahu said that he did support Trump's 20-point plan to end the war in Gaza. That plan calls for the release of all hostages held by Hamas within 72 hours of an agreement, and it lays out a roadmap for Gaza when the war ends.

Now, after being given a deadline and Trump really putting the pressure on them, Hamas did say that they would agree to immediately start negotiations to release the hostages. In their response, though, they stopped short of fully endorsing Trump's 20-point plan. In remarks from the Oval Office, Trump said that this was a big day, but he did caution that this is not a done deal yet. Take a listen.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This is a big day. We'll see how it all turns out. We have to get the final word down in concrete. Very importantly, I look forward to having the hostages come home to their parents.

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BENBROOK: And I want to pull up one of those social media posts that I referenced earlier to read that for you in full. In it, Trump said this, quote, "I appreciate that Israel has temporarily stopped the bombing in order to give the hostage release and peace deal a chance to be completed. Hamas must move quickly or else all bets will be off. I will not tolerate delay, which many think will happen or any outcome where Gaza poses a threat again. Let's get this done fast. Everyone will be treated fairly."

And then we do know, according to several officials who spoke with CNN, that Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff, as well as his son-in-law Jared Kushner, who has been involved in these talks, are going to be in Egypt for ongoing communication about the hostage release that Hamas has agreed to, as well as other potential sticking points in this peace plan -- Jessica.

DEAN: All right. Julia Benbrook at the White House, thank you for that.

And we are joined now by former Middle East State Department negotiator Aaron David Miller.

Aaron, you and I have talked almost every weekend since October 7th. It feels like it, for many, many times about where this could go and what are -- what's holding it up. And will the hostages come out and what's happening with the humanitarian crisis in Gaza? And here we are tonight. Is this different, do you think?

AARON DAVID MILLER, FORMER STATE DEPARTMENT MIDDLE EAST NEGOTIATOR: You know, my tendency is to default to the -- to the negative because it is Israeli-Palestinian negotiations and they fail more than they succeed. But there are three new factors here. I think Hamas genuinely is weaker. I think the Arab states have put additional pressure. But the key issue here, and I'll tell you, having been a part of every administration from Jimmy Carter to Bush 43, I have -- there is no precedent for an American president telling an Israeli prime minister, either you do what I want or, quote, "I'm going to leave you," unquote.

It's extraordinary. And it, again, it's unparalleled. It's unprecedented. And if you ask me why this was happening, of those three factors, I think the key, of course, because the key actor or the one with the most power is Israel and Netanyahu government, will it work, Jessica? I think there's a reasonable chance that you could see the hostages released. What I can't get my mind around is exactly why Hamas is willing to give up their key asset without really binding commitments from Trump, the Arabs and the Israelis that, A, the war will end, and B, the Israelis will withdraw their forces from -- maybe to the line of withdrawal, there may be several, from the 75 percent to 80 percent of Gaza that they now occupy.

Hamas wants to survive. And there's no talk here of decommissioning. There's no talk here of an international stabilization force. All that needs to be negotiated.

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But it sounds to me, if they can work out the logistics, Hamas needs to figure out where all the hostages that are no longer alive are kept. They need to make certain that the hostages they don't hold that maybe in the hands of Palestine Islamic Jihad or other Palestinian groups are secure before they'll go through this -- through with this deal. But again, why Hamas is willing to give up their only card now in exchange for assurances that I don't think they have is the one missing ingredient here. We're going to find out soon enough.

DEAN: How much to that point, how much does pressure from the other Arab states and particularly Qatar, play into all of that, that piece of it?

MILLER: I mean, I think it's clearly more intense than it's been, but remember that the people who are making these decisions are not the -- what they derisively called the hotel boys, the external leadership that the Israelis tried to kill in Doha on September 9th. It's the -- what's left of the internal leadership, brigade commanders, one individual in particular is al-Din al-Haddad, who is the commander of the Gaza City Brigade, and a few others. They are the ones who are making the decisions. And it's clear to me

that there are fundamental splits between the external leadership and the internal who have no fundamental faith or trust that, in fact, if the hostages are released and again, fill in the blank, I don't know what Hamas actually expects. They want to survive. They're willing to give up governance in Gaza, but they're not willing to give up their weapons, and they're not willing to essentially accept, quote-unquote, "amnesty," which is in the proposal, and to leave Gaza. So that piece of this is still a mystery to me.

DEAN: Yes. All right. Well, we will see what comes out of Egypt.

Aaron David Miller, thank you so much. We appreciate it.

MILLER: Thanks, Jessica.

DEAN: And four days into the government shutdown here in the U.S. and with lawmakers having left Washington, there's no reason to see an end in sight in the immediate future. President Trump is threatening massive layoffs. He has budget chief Russ Vought determining which federal agencies should be subject to those cuts. Plus, the Trump administration is going after key projects in Democratic led cities by freezing federal funding.

In the meantime, federal workers across the country have been told to stay home while they're furloughed, with many living outside of Washington, and other federal workers who have been deemed essential are still working but also without a paycheck.

Let's bring in Randy Erwin, the president of the National Federation of Federal Employees.

Randy, thanks for joining me. I appreciate it. What are you hearing --

RANDY ERWIN, NATIONAL PRESIDENT, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES: Thanks for having me.

DEAN: I'm sure -- yes, it's great to have you. I'm sure you're talking to a lot of people over the last several days. What are you hearing from your members?

ERWIN: Well, they're terrified. You know, this administration has from -- before they even got elected this time around, they were very explicit that they were going to target federal employees. This OMB director Vought, you know, a couple, you know, months before this administration came in, was saying we want -- we want people, the federal workers, to not want to come to work. And then, what do you know, they get into office and they're actually doing those things to be so punitive.

They've been, you know, laid off, they've been disrespected. They've had their collective bargaining rights ripped away. And now we've got this shutdown and they're saying they're going to do illegal things, like fire people during a shutdown, which they absolutely cannot do. It's 100 percent illegal. And so our people are just really, really scared. And it doesn't have to be this way. DEAN: If they do do that, will there be -- will you all take part in

lawsuits?

ERWIN: Absolutely. I mean, there's been a couple unions that already jumped out there and filed a lawsuit on this issue. You know, I think that our union would want to get involved and so would, you know, many others. But, you know, it is just so clear, this anti-deficiency act, this administration is not allowed to spend money that Congress doesn't appropriate. That's a simple concept.

But in order to go through a riff, you know, laying off workers, you have to spend money so they can't do it. And it really shows that this president is indicating one of two things. Either he's going to do something blatantly illegal, which, by the way, when he signs an oath to uphold that constitution he has -- he has a duty to faithfully execute the laws of this country. And he's saying he's not going to do that.

And so he's either indicating that he's going to violate the law and the Constitution, or he's just trying to grate federal employees. And either way, those -- both of those things are truly despicable.

DEAN: We mentioned that many of these workers do not live in Washington. Of course D.C. and the surrounding area, Maryland, Virginia, those have a very high concentration of federal workers for obvious reasons. But I've always been struck by the statistics of how many federal workers live very far away from Washington.

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ERWIN: Yes, it's true. Well, you know, only less than 15 percent of federal workers are in the D.C., Maryland, Virginia area. 85 percent are spread throughout the country. They're in every congressional district. There's huge groups of federal employees in places like Alaska, in places throughout the south, doing incredible work for the American people, keeping our military ready, caring for our veterans, being stewards of all of our public lands like national parks, forests, homeland security, clean air, clean water, safe food, safe air travel.

All of these things that are essential services for the American people. And no matter where you live in this country, these are your neighbors that are doing that critical work. And they make 25 percent less than private sector workers doing the exact same jobs. And about one-third of them are veterans. It makes no sense for these unbelievable workers doing such good work for the American people to be targeted by this president.

DEAN: And oftentimes the president and his administration have accused federal workers of being political, of being Democrats, of being against the president. There are political appointees within the government, of course. But many of these federal workers are bureaucrats, which means they work for Republicans and Democrats.

ERWIN: Well, look, I mean, we have a civil service that's there to work for the American people. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution. They do a tremendous job. I don't really love the term bureaucrat. You know, look, again, only less than 15 percent of the people are in Washington. I represent 110,000 federal workers. I wouldn't describe any of them as bureaucrats, 50,000 keeping our military ready.

I got people at 50 VAs caring for veterans every single day. People who are putting out fire, wildland firefighters, and all other kinds of duties, running our national parks, issuing passports, ensuring the integrity of the American passport. Not one person that I described there was anything like a bureaucrat. And so, you know, there's a lot of misleading things that they put out.

Here's another thing. You started this way. You know, the president said, why are you attacking people? He's like, because he thinks that all federal employees are in Washington or wants to pretend. He says, oh, Washington voted 94 percent against me. So I don't like them. But my membership is 50-50. They look like the general population. So he's targeting these folks. Their minds are blown because a lot of these people voted for Trump.

They cannot understand how they're being targeted by this administration. But, you know, I mean, I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or he just doesn't do his homework. But what he's doing to federal employees is tremendously unfair, and it's un-American the way that he is going after, you know, whether it's cities that voted Democratic. You got -- you're the president of the United States. You got to represent the American people.

And he's out there targeting -- our government is not there to inflict pain on Americans. They're there to serve this country. And that's not what this administration is doing.

DEAN: All right, Randy Erwin, thanks for your time tonight. We do appreciate it.

ERWIN: Thank you so much for having me.

DEAN: Still ahead, some tense moments in Illinois as protesters face off against federal law enforcement officers. We're tracking new details as the secretary of Homeland Security plans to send what she calls more special operations to the scene near an ICE facility.

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DEAN: Tonight, a new escalation in Chicago. The White House announcing President Trump has now authorized 300 members of the Illinois National Guard to protect, quote, "federal officers and assets" in one of Americas biggest cities. People living there were already demonstrating against the sudden surge in federal forces and intense clashes tonight between protesters and federal agents in Chicago.

You see agents using tear gas there. Homeland Security says officers shot an armed woman who was part of a group they say rammed cars into vehicles used by ICE agents. Secretary Kristi Noem says she's sending more special operations to the scene.

Let's bring in Rafael Romo with more on this.

Rafael, this has continued to develop all throughout the day. What is the latest?

RAFAEL ROMO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. Well, number one, this didn't happen overnight, Jessica. There have been protests for weeks in Chicago, but things seem to have gotten much worse over the last 48 hours. On the one hand, there were clashes between federal agents and protesters at an ICE facility just outside Chicago on Friday morning. And this morning on Chicago's Southwest Side, there was a shooting involving agents and people who apparently didn't want them there, to say the least.

Let me show you some of the images from Chicago that we have received over the last couple of hours. These images show law enforcement officers using tear gas to disperse protesters. We're also getting images showing protesters throwing water bottles and other objects at a vehicle with federal agents. And this morning there was a shooting on Chicago's Southwest Side. The Department of Homeland Security announced there was this shooting.

And in a statement, a top DHS officials said that law enforcement officers were rammed by vehicles and boxed in by 10 cars. Unable to move their vehicles, agents exited the car and they saw that one of the drivers had a semiautomatic weapon, which prompted the agents to fire what officials are calling defensive shots at the armed U.S. citizen.

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Tensions boiled over Friday when protesters clashed with federal agents during a protest outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center for migrants just outside of Chicago, where the ICE facility is located while Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino were seen on the ICE facility's roof.

At least 18 people were arrested at the site where protesters have gathered for several weeks in a row to protest the Trump administration's crackdown on immigration.

At a Democratic Party fundraiser here in Atlanta Friday night, Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker accused federal agents of violating the rights of not only citizens, but also immigrants.

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GOV. JB PRITZKER (D), ILLINOIS: In the past few weeks in Chicago, ICE has detained multiple U.S. citizens because they were black or brown. They shot gas pellets into the car of a journalist who had done nothing except drive past an ICE facility to observe what was going on. They raided an apartment complex in the middle of the night, and perp walked a group of young children out of the building with their hands zip-tied behind them, separating them from their parents. (END VIDEO CLIP)

ROMO: And Jessica, according to DHS, more than 1,000 undocumented immigrants have been arrested since early September as part of what officials call Operation Midway Blitz.

Now back to you.

DEAN: Rafael Romo, thank you so much.

The Trump administration is also looking to send federal law enforcement into other states and cities, many led by Democrats. A judge nominated by President Trump has yet to decide whether to block him from sending National Guard troops into Portland, Oregon. Oregon and Portland officials jointly sued the administration after the president announced that deployment. They are seeking a temporary restraining order, and both sides are giving starkly different accounts of the protests outside an Immigration and Custom Enforcement facility there in Portland.

Let's bring in Julia Vargas Jones.

Julia, where do things stand now? Because we are still waiting to hear from this judge.

JULIA VARGAS JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We are. And what we are waiting on her to rule is whether or not this was an unlawful overreach by the federal government, Jessica. The complaint says that this deployment is unlawful, unwarranted. Governor Tina Kotek saying that the president broke a promise to her, to keep talking before taking any action to federalize those Oregon State troops.

All of this, though, escalated after Thursday night. The pictures that we're seeing there of the protests outside that ICE facility when a conservative influencer was arrested as part of what the police described as a fight. That arrest then reverberated through the administration. We heard from the White House press secretary about this. She called video of that arrest disturbing. She called it left- wing anarchy.

And then we heard from Kristi Noem, the secretary of Homeland Security. She lamented the arrest of this influenza, Nick Sortor, and she said that the Department of War would then deploy to Portland within 24 hours. Of course, this is about much more than just ensuring the safety of those government buildings. We've seen that happen here in Los Angeles as well. It is part of the president's agenda to crack down on crime federally and Portland happens to have been the target of the president for many years.

But even if this judge grants the ability for the federal government to deploy the National Guard to Portland, that could still take some time. According to the U.S. Northern Command, the spokesperson told CNN, that those troops still need to go through training before they go to an ICE facility. And Jessica, it is unclear how long that would take.

DEAN: All right, Julia Vargas Jones, thank you for that reporting.

Straight ahead, we're going to talk with Chicago alderperson Jesse Fuentes, who was briefly handcuffed by ICE agents after she asked him if they had a warrant for someone else who was in an emergency room in that hospital. That's next.

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DEAN: A Chicago alderperson says she was handcuffed by ICE agents at a local hospital yesterday.

Jessie Fuentes says she was attempting to visit someone who had been injured in an incident involving ICE. Here's some video.

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JESSIE FUENTES, CHICAGO ALDERPERSON: Constitutional rights. Do you have a sign?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. You need to leave.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Turn around here. Turn around.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to arrest her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are going to be placed under arrest.

FUENTES: Do you have a sign?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You need some warrant for him?

FUENTES: Can somebody go in the hallway and get Lisa for me?

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DEAN: Chicago Alderperson Jessie Fuentes is joining us now. Thanks so much for being here. Look, we have that video, but give us some context. Explain what happened in the moments leading up to that and what your experience was.

FUENTES: Absolutely, thank you for having me here, Jessica.

Well, I was attending to another ICE incident in my community where ICE had thrown tear gas on Armitage and Central Park near an elementary school and a grocery store where several families had pepper spray in their eyes and in their mouths. When I received a phone call from the leadership of Humboldt Park Health, the hospital that's in my ward saying that ICE was in the emergency room, that staff and patients were scared because no one should go to a hospital in fear for their safety.

When I arrived to the hospital, the hospital had made me aware that there was an individual that had been injured during an ICE activity. He was in the emergency room for having a completely shattered leg, and they did not want ICE in the hospital, but more importantly, they did not get any documentation on why those agents were with the patient at the time.

So, I asked the ICE agents if they had a signed judicial warrant because they should -- they refused to produce any documentation. They met me with a lot of aggression. It was important to me to remain calm in that situation but the agents were very clear. They didn't want to abide by anyone's constitutional rights. They wanted to meet me with violence.

What's not captured in that video was that that agent had shoved me twice before handcuffing me for doing absolutely nothing but asking a question, if he had a signed judicial warrant to detain the individual that was in the emergency room.

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DEAN: When you went there, you know, I think people see that and they're like, well, you knew ICE agents were there. You knew this could probably end the way that it ultimately did. Did you think about that going into it?

FUENTES: Well, no, it shouldn't have ended the way it absolutely did because I was not an individual that was impeding on any activity. I was simply asking a question.

At that point, I had made no other comments outside of asking the question. If they had a signed judicial warrant. I have constitutional rights, and that is to exercise them, and I can ask questions. That does not mean that any person, whether elected or not, should be met with any form of physical aggression in which the ICE agents met me with at that moment.

DEAN: And then, I also want to know, you're obviously out now and able to talk to us, but what happened when you were detained?

FUENTES: Well, I was handcuffed momentarily. So after he handcuffed me, he escorted me outside in which Border Patrol vehicles had arrived, and I asked the Border Patrol to articulate to me what crime did I commit to be handcuffed by ICE agents, be threatened, to be arrested and to be detained, that I needed to be made aware of what crime I committed. There are several hospital employees there who also made ICE agents aware that they had footage and that I had done nothing wrong.

It was at that point that Border Control took the handcuffs off, because I understand my rights. I exercised my rights. I asked the questions I needed to ask, and Border Patrol and ICE agents had to release me. I had done nothing wrong in that moment.

DEAN: All right, Jessie Fuentes, thank you very much for your time. We sure do appreciate it.

FUENTES: Thank you.

DEAN: Thank you. We'll be right back. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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DEAN: Sean "Diddy" Combs, one of the most influential hip-hop and business moguls of his time, has been sentenced to more than four years in prison on sex crime related offenses. Combs himself appealed to the judge for mercy, with his attorney arguing Combs has already been punished enough.

Let's bring in former federal prosecutor, Alyse Adamson. Alyse, thanks for being here with us.

What did you think about this sentence?

ALYSE ADAMSON, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Thanks for having me, Jessica.

So, I think, all things considered. This was a fair, just and appropriate sentence. The defense was asking for essentially time served 14 months, he got out of jail. The prosecution was asking for 11 years. That is a huge disparity between the two.

Ultimately, the applicable guideline range, that's what a judge usually follows was about five to seven and the judge sentenced him under that. He gave him four years. And so, given the conduct in this case and the fact that he was acquitted of the most serious charges, four years seems just about right.

DEAN: And what will this sentence look like for Diddy?

ADAMSON: Yes, so the judge sentenced Diddy to 50 months, which is just over four years. But as I mentioned before, he's already been in jail for about 13 months, a little over a year. So we're already starting not at truly at four years, but at three years. Then a federal prisoner, if they are good, they call that good time, if they can do 85 percent of their prison sentence. So, you know, with this opportunity of a Halfway House release, Diddy could actually be out in as little as two years. So we're looking at a max of three years, but more likely between two and three years.

DEAN: And his defense team says it plans to appeal. Do you think they have the grounds for an appeal?

ADAMSON: Well, first of all, Jessica, what I can say, now, I'm a defense attorney as well. You always want to appeal, right? Because you never know what argument will ultimately stick. They're just being good advocates.

That being said, I do think they have an interesting argument. The defense is going to have a full throttle appeal here. They're arguing that this case stretches the Mann Act beyond its intent, that Combs didn't profit or engage in the conduct for money, and that what happened simply doesn't fit the statute and these are noble arguments, and it is true that the facts of his case are distinguishable from other Mann Act cases. Of course, the trial court already considered those arguments when the defense asked them to toss the conviction out and ultimately denied that request. But I do think that it is a meritorious argument, and we will have to see what the appellate court says.

DEAN: And how long does that process take? What comes next in terms of the timeline?

ADAMSON: Hard to say, Jessica. What they're going to do is they're going to file a notice of appeal. Then they're going to file their appeal. The government has an opportunity to respond in a reply brief. Then the defense can reply again. So, it's kind of a protracted process. And then they will likely go to an oral argument before a panel of judges and then a decision will come down.

So, when we're thinking about a jail term of only two years, and we have this appellate process, it is entirely possible that all the litigation will not have been concluded by the time he gets out. It's also possible they will reach it. I mean, a year is a long time, but it's a long process and its going to be some tough litigation on both sides.

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DEAN: All right, Alyse Adamson good to see you. Thanks for that.

ADAMSON: Thanks so much for having me, Jessica.

DEAN: Yes, from the Super Bowl to SNL, Bad Bunny living up to his reputation as one of the biggest artists in the world.

We'll talk more about that when we come back.

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DEAN: Breaking news, now, a federal judge has ruled on Oregon's fight to block the Trump administration from sending National Guard troops into Portland. Let's bring in Julia Vargas Jones. What did you learn? What did the judge say?

JONES: Well, basically pressing the pause button, on this one, Jessica, for at least 14 days, those troops will not be able to go into Portland. She says that they will contact again the parties the day before, on October 17th to see if this would be extended. But basically, her decision was based on the argument made in the complaint, that this was unlawful and unwarranted. Unlawful, I will not bore you through all of the details of this, but it's something very similar to what we've seen here in California.

He's talking about the U.S. Code, that the President exceeded his authority and that there is no proof that the containment of the protests of what was happening in Portland could not be done with regular forces. There was no need to bring in the military that the standard for rebellion, which is what the Trump administration was using to justify this deployment was not met, that the protests were too small and mostly peaceful -- about 20 people more or less by late September, this complaint says, the decision says.

And then that it was also not respecting the 10th Amendment of the sovereignty of each state, and then, this judge, who was a Trump appointee, as we had said earlier, she's made some really interesting point about, you know, the U.S. being a nation of constitutional law and not martial law and the courts must police the line between what is civil and what is military power, saying that that is the very foundation, Jessica, of the United States of America.

DEAN: All right, Julia Vargas Jones, with our breaking news, that judge temporarily blocking the President from sending National Guard troops into Portland. Thank you for that.

New tonight, President Trump also wants the top T.V. streaming service to bring back Univision.

Let's bring in CNN chief media analyst Brian Stelter.

Brian, good to see you. The President says this is, "for the purposes of fairness." Tell us what's going on here.

BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA ANALYST: Yes, awfully unusual for the President of the United States to weigh in on a T.V. carriage contract dispute. But it is in line with his behavior toward media companies trying to pressure companies into behavior he wants. We all remember Kimmel-gate from a few weeks ago, in this case, Univision has been dropped by YouTube T.V., Google, the parent of YouTube, says Univision just doesn't have the ratings to justify the value that Univision demands.

Univision apparently wants a big price hike, and YouTube has been denying it. So, this has been going on for a few days. This blackout YouTube has been using Republican politicians trying to gather support among politicians, and its notable that they've won Trump's support tonight.

Now, in Trumps post, he says this will be bad for Republicans to have YouTube blocking out Univision. He says they were so good to me with their highest rated ever political special. I set a Republican record in Hispanic voting. So, Trump views this very personally, believing that Univision is a tool in his pocket and he wants YouTube T.V. to reinstate Univision. This will be interesting to see what YouTube does. This pressure has been mounting for several days, and just the other day YouTube agreed to pay about $25 million to settle one of those lawsuits Trump had filed after January 6th.

So, another example of Trump using his pressure against a media company.

DEAN: Certainly, and I want to ask you also about Bad Bunny. He's going to host SNL season premiere tonight -- just announced after he was -- that it was announced he was going to headline the Super Bowl and look there -- because it's 2025, there's always controversy over everything. So, what more are we learning about this? And what's SNL saying in giving him this platform tonight?

STELTER: Such an interesting cultural flashpoint?

DEAN: Yes.

STELTER: Exactly, people looking forward to this performance at the Super Bowl. He's also hosting SNL tonight as you said. There was a bit of a MAGA backlash this week to the announcement about Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl because he is seen as anti-ICE.

He held his recent residency in Puerto Rico, his hometown island, because he said in part, he didn't want to be on the mainland out of concern about ICE.

Of course, Puerto Rico is part of the U.S., some conservative commentators have forgotten that in their criticism of Bad Bunny in recent days. Kristi Noem said the NFL sucks because Bad Bunny is the performer at the Super Bowl. I think the NFL can weather this storm, but as always in the Trump era, this fight comes back to who is America? What is America? Who is truly American? Is Bad Bunny the representative or not?

Of course, he is to many people. He's one of the biggest pop stars in the world, and the NFL wants to be even more global. That's probably why they're so happy he's doing the Super Bowl halftime show this year. In any event, he's representing America on one of the world's biggest stages later this season, and it all just makes Bad Bunny's performance at the Super Bowl even more interesting this winter.

DEAN: Certainly. All right, Brian Stelter, great to see you. Thanks so much.

And we'll be right back.

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DEAN: All right. You're looking live at New York on this Sunday evening. Again, just bringing you our breaking news from this hour, which is that a judge has ruled that there is a temporary stop in President Trump's sending federal forces into Portland, Oregon. We talked to the governor earlier tonight. So, we will continue to monitor that, of course, as we get more information on exactly how that will play out.

In the meantime, just ahead tonight, we've got a whole new episode of "Have I Got News for You," comedians John Hodgman and Akilah Hughes joining the gang to dig into the headlines of the week.

It is a brand new episode of "Have I Got News for You." It airs tonight at 9:00 P.M. Eastern and Pacific only here on CNN.

And I want to say thanks so much for joining me tonight. I'm Jessica Dean, I'm going to see you right back here again tomorrow starting at five Eastern.

"Real Time With Bill Maher" is headed to you next. Have a great night.

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