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GOP Senators Call For "Double-Tap" Strike Video To Be Released; Trump: U.S. Will Soon "Hit Them On Land" After Boat Strikes; Trump Touts Economic Gains, Mocks "Affordability"; Aired 6:30-7a ET
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AUDIE CORNISH, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everybody. I'm Audie Cornish. I want to thank you for joining me on "CNN This Morning."
It's half past the hour on the East Coast. And here's what's happening right now.
Job openings in the U.S. were stagnant in October. They registered at 7.67 million. That's virtually unchanged from the number of jobs posted by employers in September. And it's a sign of the ongoing uncertainty over the direction of the economy. Layoffs, also rose to nearly 1.9 million in October. That's the most since January of 2023.
Australia is leading the world's first teen social media ban. This morning, children under 16 woke up without access to their accounts. The law is designed to shelter underage children from predators, bullies, and algorithm addictions.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our kids that we've lost haven't died in vain because today, they'll be looking down. Very proud of the work that we've all done.
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CORNISH: So the 10 banned platforms include Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, and Snapchat. They -- they say that they'll comply with the law using age verification to suspend under 16 accounts, but they don't think it'll make kids safer.
And Democrats break a nearly 30-year stronghold in Miami. Eileen Higgins will be the city's next mayor. She ran a campaign on affordability and protecting immigrants.
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EILEEN HIGGINS, MIAMI MAYOR-ELECT: We will lead a city that belongs to everyone. A city where seniors can stay. Young people can build a future. Immigrants feel welcomed and respected.
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CORNISH: Higgins also becomes the first woman to be elected as mayor of Miami.
And Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's trip to Capitol Hill isn't doing enough for lawmakers who want to see that video of the so-called double-tap boat strike.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called Hegseth's closed door briefing on the September 2nd attack, quote, very unsatisfying.
And Republican senators want the administration to release the full video as quickly as possible.
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MANU RAJU, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Do you think it would make sense for the administration to release this video?
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): I'm OK with it being released. And I'm OK with what I'm (INAUDIBLE).
RAJU: You're OK with the second strike that occurred?
GRAHAM: Yes. I mean, I trust Tom Cotton's judgment.
SEN. THOM TILLIS (R-NC): We got to get the Epstein files released. We got to get any videos that do not, in any way, compromise mission integrity down there. Just get the stuff out there.
SEN. JOSH HAWLEY (R-MO): There's a way to release the -- the video, which I have not seen. But if there's a way to release that, that does not compromise our intelligence gathering, I -- I would urge him to do it.
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CORNISH: Joining the Group Chat, Republican Congressman Ryan Zinke. Welcome to the chat.
REP. RYAN ZINKE (R-MT): Great to be with you.
CORNISH: OK. I'm not just here to vibe with you because you're a congressman. It's also because, of course, you were an Navy SEAL commander. You actually were at the training school.
If there's someone who knows what it's like to make a call, you know what that's like. Stipulate. Is that correct?
ZINKE: That is correct.
CORNISH: Should we see this video?
ZINKE: I had no problem with the video being seen. You know, if there's a --
CORNISH: Why does the administration have a problem with it being seen?
ZINKE: Well, I'm not really sure. But let's be clear in the context of what's going on. All right. These are narco drug terrorists.
CORNISH: Which we don't know because no evidence has been released.
ZINKE: All right. You look at the boats. All right. They're not fishing. And you look at the --
CORNISH: But I love that there's evidence, but why not show it? If it's that simple, it's they're not fishing --
ZINKE: Well, up -- up to now. Up to now.
CORNISH: -- why not just show it?
ZINKE: Well, up to now, the videos on the boats have been very, very clear what they're doing. I don't think they're in dispute they're out there running drugs. I don't think that's in dispute.
And if they are running drugs, which they are, they're a narco- terrorist. Narco-terrorists to me are no different than a missile being fired in the United States, except they're more deadly. A missile would probably kill two or 300. These boats probably killed in the thousands about lethal drugs. So to me, they're terrorists. They're legitimate and legal target.
CORNISH: For a double-tap strike.
ZINKE: For a double-tap.
CORNISH: So if they are shipwrecked and clinging to the boat, you're saying that's still valid?
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ZINKE: If they're still -- if the commander views them as a threat, and most rules of engagement, when you're dealing with non-state terrorist organizations, which these are designated. All right. They are lethal. They are -- they are a designated target and they're lawful target.
So when you look at a target, you destroy it. They should have destroyed it in the first strike, on a second round. If the commander views them as a threat, continue threat, then he can engage and he should engage.
And I know Admiral Bradley very well. He's -- he's a fine gentleman, he's an officer, he's sharp. It's his judgment. His judgment I think was correct.
CORNISH: Do you think they kind of threw him under the bus by putting him out there to answer for this?
ZINKE: Well, certainly there was a lot of media hype on first strike, second strike, double strike. Who made the call? Did -- did the secretary still kill everyone?
I would imagine a common rules of engagement, you know, is killer capture. And so I think -- I think in that -- in that large -- and -- and the rules of engagement were very clear, killer capture. They're terrorists. I think there were then the ball -- bowline of -- of being legal.
CORNISH: Why do you think so many Republicans are raising questions about this on the House Armed Services Committee?
ZINKE: Well, many of them haven't been around strikes and haven't been in the position to make those calls. And my understanding though, there was some time between the first strike and the second strike. They looked at it, they had a jag in there, they looked at it was appropriate within the rules of engagement, then they struck a second time.
This is not the first time, by the way, that second strikes have been made. If you look at Obama administration, over 3,000, you know, strikes were made.
CORNISH: In what context?
ZINKE: In the context of going after non-state lethal organizations.
CORNISH: In the Middle East. So terrorists?
ZINKE: In the strike to include U.S. citizens.
CORNISH: OK.
ZINKE: To -- to include U.S. citizens.
CORNISH: Yes. And that was very controversial at the time.
ZINKE: But you didn't see a lot of -- a lot of hype on it. I didn't -- I didn't hear Congress, you know -- you know, lash out. Now I see -- I see members lash out.
A lot of it is where we sit in the media. I mean, we're trying to make -- make, you know, hay out of everything. Everything this president does has become controversial, whether it's not or whether it is.
It's just, you know, the -- the media hype, I think, on -- on this. And the strike was -- was different. Because we can now see strikes a lot of times. The commanders have more visibility on the battlefield than ever before.
CORNISH: OK. I want to talk about this conversation that has been had about following unlawful or lawful orders. I hear your confidence. There are other people who are not confident that these orders are lawful for a variety of reasons.
And in that context, here at CNN, you know, we found Pete Hegseth's comments from 2016 when he was asked about, hey, if you're in the Armed Services and you have concerns about unlawful orders, you know, what might you think about that? And here's what he said at the time.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PETE HEGSETH, U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: I got some response from vets on that saying, you're not just going to follow that order if it's unlawful.
MARIA BARTIROMO, FOX BUSINESS ANCHOR: The military is not even going to follow his orders.
HEGSETH: Military's not going to follow illegal orders. And so the Trump campaign was forced to change their position and say, we're going to try to change the law so that the military can operate within the law. That's a tall order also.
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CORNISH: What is your stance on this idea? If you are in the Armed Services and an unlawful order comes your way, what is the conversation?
ZINKE: UCMJ is that you're never obligated to follow an unlawful order. But this is what's happening. You've heard it every day, over 3,000 times. This president is unlawful. This president's actions are unconstitutional. His actions are deployed. The -- the guard is unlawful. His actions to support ICE is unlawful.
CORNISH: And it's being challenged in court, just so we're clear.
ZINKE: Been challenged in court.
CORNISH: Yes.
ZINKE: But it's not unlawful.
CORNISH: Yes.
ZINKE: Well, it's not unlawful.
CORNISH: Yes.
ZINKE: And in due -- to suggest, and to promote, that a service member violate the UCMJ, by the way, the penalty for sedition is death. And I think the president was right.
You know, General Washington, if those members of the House and the Senate were in his army, if they were in their army, they probably would have been hung. General Washington hung men for deserting their post.
CORNISH: I mean, a lot has changed since then, including international law around war and laws of war.
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ZINKE: But -- but -- but -- but remember -- well, I know. But president --
CORNISH: You're taking it back to the 1800s? ZINKE: No. But President Washington --
CORNISH: OK.
ZINKE: -- would have a shorter rope.
CORNISH: OK.
ZINKE: And certainly today, the -- the shorter rope. So members of Congress, Article I, and Article II, they say what they like. But it is seditious to -- to suggest that troops disobey a -- disobey a lawful order and suggest this president.
Remember --
CORNISH: Is it --
ZINKE: -- the context is this president is unlawful.
CORNISH: Yes.
ZINKE: Therefore, you don't have to -- you don't have to follow his orders. That's a very dangerous road. UCMJ, the bar is much higher on what's lawful and what's not lawful.
CORNISH: One last thing. The president keeps hinting at a wider operation in Venezuela. He has not ruled out using U.S. forces against Venezuela. Can you talk about your concerns about that?
I feel like a lot of people who were Armed Service people who ran post-Obama, ran because they were against forever wars and land wars and foreign entanglements.
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ZINKE: The president have powers -- has powers, but he doesn't have unlimited powers. When it -- when it comes to using force against in the country of action is this is why we have Article I and Article II. He asked him to present a case to the Congress.
Congress is the only body that it could declare a war.
CORNISH: Should the U.S. go to a land war in Venezuela over this?
ZINKE: Venezuela. You know, I am an advocate of the Monroe Doctrine. You can't have a drug dealing country like Venezuela and the soft underbelly of the United States, which is the Caribbean.
You can't have a country that's running narco-terrorist and -- and -- and drug boats by air, sea, and land, you know, constantly running against U.S. policy and the policy of being a safe, secure Caribbean, which we should --
CORNISH: Is that a yes?
ZINKE: I would -- I would leave that up to Congress.
CORNISH: OK.
ZINKE: This is the debate that we -- that we should have.
CORNISH: OK. It will be interesting --
ZINKE: This is why we have Congress.
CORNISH: -- to see if it does come to you because, so far, not a lot has come to Congress.
ZINKE: But -- but it should.
CORNISH: OK.
ZINKE: And the -- and the day also. Remember, Article I and Article II, who funds it?
CORNISH: In what?
ZINKE: So you got -- you got to be careful because at the end of the day, you're going to expense resources on there and Congress is the first.
CORNISH: So that leads us to the next topic, which we've been talking about affordability in the economy and how the president has been talking about these things.
And in that speech with Pennsylvania -- in Pennsylvania, he talked about everything but that. How is that helpful?
ZINKE: Well, I think he knows the economy is -- is concerned. Affordability is concerned. On the bright side, energy costs are down. Gas in Montana was about $250. That's a good thing.
CORNISH: Electricity is up.
ZINKE: Well, energy -- energy -- energy, overall, is down, which is good. That'll -- this help. But the things are still not affordable.
CORNISH: Yes. And the other folks might have questions here. But I'm just curious about what you're thinking because you've got all of these Republicans heading for the exits, right?
ZINKE: There's a -- there's a lot on both sides.
CORNISH: There's a lot. But when you're --
ZINKE: Enough is enough.
CORNISH: -- the party in power, you're supposed to be like, this is amazing. I'm in charge of committees. Let's -- and instead they're like -- this is a waste of time, which we hear Marjorie Taylor Greene and others saying, Nancy Mace is talking about this, and others who are just voting with their feet and leaving. What's going on with Republicans in that caucus that they don't want to stick around?
ZINKE: You know, I -- I would say that there's frustration in Congress of not getting things done. And we get distracted on these -- on these secondary issues.
But the heart is, is the economy doing better? Do you feel better? Are the trade tariffs going into trade deals so we can bring affordability down?
And lastly, interest rates. And we should be really concerned about interest rates because -- because when interest rates are five and a half, six percent on -- on just standard transactions and your -- your mortgage is 8.5 percent, and then the cost of money for -- for a business is at 10 percent, that's very expensive money and the economy feels it.
So I think on the -- on the economy side in keeping the House in majority in the Republican side, three things have to happen. The economy has to feel better. That's subjective.
CORNISH: Because you know, Antjuan is ready to go out with all his candidates. Does this economy feel good to you?
ZINKE: But -- but we -- we agree the economy needs to feel better.
CORNISH: Do you feel right?
JASMINE WRIGHT, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, NOTUS: But is the White House making that case enough? I mean, we heard from President Trump last night for 90 minutes. Do you think that he effectively made the case and spoke empathetically, which I know some Republicans have been asking him to do? Spoke empathetically about what people are facing on the economy.
ZINKE: He's got a -- he's on the road and he understands that's -- that's -- so that's a -- that's a vulnerability because the economy has to feel better. But also the -- the tariffs have to lead the trade deals because the -- the tariffs out there provide uncertainty in the market.
And lastly, interest rates have to come down.
ANTJUAN SEAWRIGHT, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Congressman, respectfully, the president has denied that we have an -- an affordability crisis. Most reasonable people would agree about all metrics and how we measure the economy.
Maganomics has been a failure. 1.2 million jobs have been lost since this president has taken over this economy. All they mentioned, energy prices up five percent. We meant -- you mentioned energy services up 7.2 percent energy and utility up 30.
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CORNISH: You could see they're -- they're ready to run with this as --
SEAWRIGHT: What I'm -- what I'm saying to you is --
CORNISH: Yes.
SEAWRIGHT: -- Americans are responding at the ballot box. I would say the different way. Whatever you put in your little red wagon, you must push or pull.
What Americans are saying at the ballot box election after the election, the affordability crisis you all have created, we reject that because you made a promise otherwise at the ballot box.
CORNISH: Yes. Talk about that promise.
ZINKE: All right. So here's the promises.
CORNISH: Yes.
ZINKE: Secure the border.
CORNISH: Right.
ZINKE: Is the border secure? Yes. Peace. How many peace deals have been done? A few. I think -- I think eight, right.
Affordability, gas prices. And energy prices are the key. You say energy prices are -- are up. I don't think so at the gas pump.
So join the gas pump guys that look at the cost are (INAUDIBLE).
CORNISH: But if people are looking at their rent, health premiums --
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ZINKE: Absolutely.
CORNISH: -- food, electricity. Are they going to wait for you to drill somewhere? Or do they want to see a piece of legislation that helps them right now?
ZINKE: So again, affordability. And we all agree, it's -- it's not easy out there. So affordability is the issue.
SEAWRIGHT: Except the president doesn't agree with you. Because he's time and time again say it, that he does not think we have an affordability crisis.
ZINKE: He's believed -- he's believed this policy -- so do I. I believe his policies are correct, bringing jobs back. I mean, looking --
SEAWRIGHT: 1.2 million one have been lost.
CORNISH: OK. Hold on one second. I'm going to let you go because guess what, you have to go campaign on this fairly soon in the coming months. So I'm intrigued to see that plays out.
ZINKE: Well, again -- again three things have to happen.
CORNISH: Yes.
ZINKE: You're right, the economy has to feel better. And that's subjective. It might feel better for you, for me, but it's got to feel better overall.
SEAWRIGHT: It doesn't feel good for me.
ZINKE: Tariffs got to go to -- go to trade deals. And the interest rates, which is a big one. If the interest rates go down and the 10- year bond is -- is the report card, then the economy is going to blossom.
CORNISH: That's a lot of ifs.
ZINKE: The costs of capital, credit card --
CORNISH: Yes.
ZINKE: -- bills, your mortgage, all that -- all that -- that price spike has to do with high interest rates.
CORNISH: Well, I hope you're able to come back because people are still going to be talking about this.
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ZINKE: Oh, absolutely. I'm an optimist. Come on. It's Christmas, everybody.
CORNISH: Congressman Ryan Zinke, thank you for being here.
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CORNISH: OK. So we're going to revisit that conversation about affordability for a second. Because the president was speaking before a crowd in Pennsylvania last night. He was using a similar message that he's great for the economy, that he's bringing prices down, but also that affordability is kind of a hoax.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have no higher priority than making America affordable again. That's what we're going to do. And again, they cause the high prices and we're bringing them down.
They have a new word, you know, they always have a hoax. The new word is affordability. So they look at the camera and they say, this election is all about affordability.
Now they never talk about it.
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CORNISH: OK. Affordability is a very real issue for Americans. That's expected to be reflected in the Federal Reserve's decision to cut interest rates for a third time this year. Experts expect a point 0.25 percent cut to be announced today.
The Group Chat is back. You know, one thing I wanted to show that I didn't have earlier is that depending on your income, how this economy feels is very different.
Because is your growth -- is that your pay growth catching up to inflation? So here's an example. You have a high income? Guess what. You're making four percent more over inflation.
Look at that number at the bottom, 1.4 percent. You are not reaching that inflation rate. You are feeling it.
CHARLIE DENT, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, yes. I mean, look, last night what the president did, he talk a little bit about affordability, but didn't offer a whole lot of solutions and he digressed and he went on to Ilhan Omar and S-hole countries. And I think this is the fundamental problem that he -- yes.
CORNISH: Yes. When does the weave adrift?
SEAWRIGHT: When he talked about affordability last night, he talked about not having 37 dolls if you were a little girl and not having two pencils. The reality is, as CNBC declared, Americans are taking out short-term loans to buy groceries, Charlie Dent, to buy groceries.
Six-figure income is now considered survival mode, according to "USA Today." And so you can debate many things, but you cannot debate the facts.
And every single thing that we do in America is more expensive now, primarily since Donald Trump has taken office, and those things are non-debatable.
CORNISH: I think one of the reasons why you heard the president pivot to immigration is because that's where they believe they're doing well, correct? That even --
WRIGHT: Yes.
CORNISH: -- the execution of the deportation scheme, they don't think is having a deleterious effect. WRIGHT: Yes. I mean, I think that the immigration is one place where they -- you can see tangible results. You can see him accomplishing his campaign promises they believe. But I think you're seeing -- you're seeing Donald Trump in his element, per se, right? He's at --
CORNISH: Right.
WRIGHT: -- a campaign-style rally. He's in Pennsylvania. The last time he was there at a campaign sign was May 30th. He's talking to folks. He's doing the weave. He's talking about all these other things.
But I know in talking to folks who have spoken to him and spoken to his team, that there was advice pouring in about the way that he could change his language when it came to talk -- when it comes to talking about affordability.
Pitched toward the -- pitched toward the future. Talk about how next year they seem -- they think it's going to be a lot better. Talk about how it was the Democrats, not just Biden that tanked the economy or whatever.
And I don't know if you necessarily heard him changing his language. They didn't want --
CORNISH: Yes.
WRIGHT: -- him to use the word hoax, right? Even though what he's describing, he says, is this messaging campaign (INAUDIBLE).
CORNISH: And you heard a repeat of past language. Here's an example of him talking about immigration.
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TRUMP: Hey, why is it we only take people from (BLEEP) countries, right? Why can't we have some people from Norway, Sweden, just a few? Let us have a few. From -- from Denmark. Do you mind sending us of your peep? Send us some nice people. Do you mind?
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But we always take people from Somalia, places that are a disaster, right? Filthy dirty, disgusting, ridden with crime. The only thing they're good at is going after ships.
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CORNISH: This is interesting because this point of view is now moving into policy.
In October, there is a overhaul proposal. Do you know about this for the refugee program that says, look, you have to show you can integrate into American society, the people we wanna see, South Africans, Europeans, and imposing all of these caps on areas.
So this is no longer just like a throwaway comment.
WRIGHT: No. And I think that's so often when Donald Trump speaks at these type of events, you -- you wonder as a journalist, what is actionable and what is he just saying. And I think that some of these comments are actionable when you're talking about Somalia.
Of course, this is in -- in reaction to what we've seen happening in Minnesota with the fraud case that's become kind of a viral moment, particularly on the right. And Tim Walz's involvement in that.
But, yes, I think that they are moving forward with looking at ways to continue to remake the immigration system, continue to remake the refugee system. And then he's using language like that which again --
CORNISH: Yes.
WRIGHT: -- they have denied for years and years and years and which, you know, the tried and true thing is that if Donald Trump says (INAUDIBLE).
CORNISH: Charlie, can you talk about that for a second? Like I'm saying, it's not just rhetoric. It's moving into policy approach.
DENT: Well, yes. And the -- the truth is the immigration system is broken. And sooner or later, Congress may want to fix it.
CORNISH: Is that the way to fix it?
DENT: No. I mean, there's just a lot of xenophobia you just heard there. But -- but they need to fix this system. You cannot stop illegal immigration without fixing the legal system.
And everybody knows this. We have workforce needs. We need to bring in more skilled people. We need to bring in more unskilled people, if you're going to go and work in our agricultural fields and our chicken processing facilities.
CORNISH: Yes.
DENT: So we need to fix this system.
CORNISH: So --
DENT: And we can.
CORNISH: Yes.
DENT: But you're not going to do it just by saying that we need more people from Norway and Sweden and fewer people from Haiti. It doesn't work.
CORNISH: One of the things we're seeing like in this proposal, the document said the significant rise in diversity has diminished the level of social trust necessary for the operation of a democratic society. It's a pushback against the multiculturalism that Democrats value and held up as a top value. SEAWRIGHT: I would say two things. One, what we saw from the president last night was racist. And we know that he tends to lean on those things when he's in trouble politically and look for him to do more of that.
But when you talk about immigration, and we've all -- I've heard that word float around, and we've talked about the success of him from immigration policy standpoint, the American people disagree fundamentally.
I have not seen a poll recently.
WRIGHT: I actually don't know if that's true. I think that Americans are generally supportive in polling of the president's immigration policy.
What they aren't supportive though is these images of more draconian efforts and (INAUDIBLE).
SEAWRIGHT: Well, that's -- that's what I'm saying. Like as generally speaking, you can say that immigration, he's been successful on the border side, but there are other components to immigration where Americans feel -- feel to the contrary.
And I think we've seen that in recent data and certainly the images when it comes to ICE and others indicate that America does not get down with that type of stance when it comes to immigration.
CORNISH: OK. We're going to end on a lighter note because it's Wednesday, middle of the week. It's a bit of a struggle. Jasmine, where do you want to begin? What's in your group chat?
WRIGHT: Oh, OK. My group chat is talking about how the Golden Globes has nominated several movies, including "Marty Supreme." And I'm not at Timothee Chalamet hater. I'm just saying. "Marty Supreme" and "Avatar," and I actually love "Avatar," without them being released. I mean, how is that even fair?
I am hoping Jennifer Lawrence from "Die My Love" wins her award, but, you know, that's where I'm at.
CORNISH: OK. OK. Any snubs that you were noticing, anything that you're surprised at?
WRIGHT: I feel like more of the cast of "Sinners" should have gotten it, but, you know, that's --
CORNISH: OK. I'm here for "Sinners" propaganda. I like it.
WRIGHT: I'm here for "Sinners" propaganda.
CORNISH: Charlie.
DENT: My group chat is all football all the time.
CORNISH: OK. DENT: College football playoff, who's in, who's not in. Did Notre Dame get screwed? Did Miami benefit?
And the other thing we're all talking about is Philadelphia Eagles fans. Is it Jalen Hurts caused two turnovers in one play?
CORNISH: Is this your bracket --
DENT: In one play.
CORNISH: -- I'm looking at? Are we going to do this?
DENT: Oh, my goodness. Brackettville.
WRIGHT: I mean, after just winning the Super Bowl --
DENT: I'm from -- I'm from Indiana at this point --
WRIGHT: -- don't you guys have a little --
DENT: No. We -- we just -- we -- we complain. That's what we do as Eagles fans. We're never happy.
WRIGHT: We have a little bit of space.
DENT: We're never satisfied.
WRIGHT: The Bears are doing great, by the way.
DENT: I know. They beat the Eagles.
CORNISH: OK. Last minute to you.
SEAWRIGHT: Zohran Mamdani, the mayor-elect, has endorsed a challenger to Democratic Congressman Dan Goldman in New York, Brad Lander. I think that's how he pronounce his name.
CORNISH: Yes.
SEAWRIGHT: I think that has made my group chat explode. Because now, we're going to see a test of one side of our party versus the other in some of these primaries to come.
CORNISH: So say it again. Lander is now running for Congress.
SEAWRIGHT: Against --
CORNISH: And -- and he was the person --
SEAWRIGHT: -- Dan Goldman.
CORNISH: -- who was, you know, campaigning for Mamdani and sort of like --
SEAWRIGHT: You know, like a campaign coach.
CORNISH: Yes, trying to support him.
SEAWRIGHT: And now Mamdani is supporting him against a sitting Democratic Congressman Dan Goldman, which is -- who is not in a necessarily easy seat for Democrats to win. So it's going to be interesting to see what that flirtation looks like across the board in Democratic primaries.
CORNISH: Ooh. OK, you guys. Thank you so much for talking with me today. And thank you for waking up with us. I know there's a lot of places you can spend your time. I'm glad you're here with us.
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