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Rep. Kevin Kiley (I-CA) is Interviewed about ICE Stops; Former Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan is Interviewed about Elections; Trump-Backed DNI Nominee Dodges 2020 Question. Aired 6:30- 7a ET

Aired July 16, 2026 - 06:30   ET

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TODD BLANCHE, ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL: It is a moot issue, meaning there is no weaponization fund. The weaponization fund is dead. It's not moving forward.

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AUDIE CORNISH, CNN ANCHOR: Did it feel like that was enough for Cornyn? It seemed -- oh, both shaking your head. What's going on there?

MIKE DUBKE, FORMER TRUMP WHTIE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: Well, he basically said it wasn't enough.

CORNISH: Yes.

DUBKE: So --

CORNISH: But I always watch which senators seem like a pretty sure vote, all of a sudden asking very pointed questions.

DUBKE: He, in the past, should have been a sure vote. But yes, when you get the rug pulled out from under you by an administration and now you're voting on, you know, that administration's nominees, you question this. This is part of the -- kind of the long-term gain, short term pain that I've talked about, that the Trump administration has created for itself by running primary opponents in Texas and Louisiana and elsewhere.

But Tillis also had similar questions and had a very different response while asking those questions.

CORNISH: Right.

DUBKE: And so, I can look at Tillis and go, OK, that's a yes vote. Cornyn still seems to be up in the air. And this is -- you know, this is drawing a lot of questions.

Now, they also have a legislative pathway forward that I think Cornyn may be trying to force, and that might be part of the larger story here.

CORNISH: OK. In the meantime, he was also asked -- this came up in very -- in various ways, are you the nation's top law enforcement officer working for the public, or are you Trump's personal attorney?

Here's one person asking that question, Senator Kennedy, I believe.

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SEN. JOHN KENNEDY (R-LA): Are you and President Trump friends?

TODD BLANCHE, ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL: I'm his lawyer. Was his lawyer. And now I'm the deputy attorney general.

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CORNISH: Everyone kept sort of, oh, Freudian slip with something like that. But do you think that argument is catching, Meghan?

MEGHAN HAYS, FORMER BIDEN WHITE HOUSE DIRECTOR OF MESSAGE PLANNING: Yes, I think that everyone understands that the Justice Department works for Donald Trump and not for the American people. I think that's been made very clear in the actions that they have said. When you're at war with the judicial system, when the 16,000 people have quit the DOJ or been fired, when judges no longer can have, you know, trust in DOJ lawyers because there's been so many misleading and lies presented in cases, that's a real problem. That's not saying you're the lawyer for the American people. That's saying you're a lawyer for Donald Trump.

CORNISH: At the end of the day, did he perform better or worse than a Pam Bondi? We can -- we don't need to guess about whether he's going to get the job, but are we seeing a real fundamental shift in leadership at the Justice Department?

IGOR BOBIC, CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER, "NOTUS": Pam Bondi took a far more aggressive posture. She was attacking Democrats outright. He got into little tiffs with a senator of Democratic --

CORNISH: Yes, but no yelling about the Dow. No nothing.

BOBIC: But nothing -- no. No.

And Republicans I spoke to yesterday on The Hill said they appreciated that. They liked his tenure. He kind of brought down the temperature. I think he will get confirmed. But, you know, John Cornyn is a wild card here.

CORNISH: Oh, interesting. OK. Straight --

DUBKE: He was -- he was low t.

CORNISH: Which is -- which is a real thing in the Texas race, right?

HAYS: Yes.

CORNISH: That's what they're saying about Talarico, low t Talarico.

HAYS: Those -- yes.

CORNISH: Oh, this show.

Straight ahead on CNN THIS MORNING, people in Texas, as we said once again, but this time we're talking about the weather. There are rising waters there. The state is still under a flood emergency. People are worried about the rain on the way.

Plus, it's been a week of deadly ICE encounters. Is Congress ever going to step in with oversight? We've got California Congressman Kevin Kiley with us live.

And good morning to Philadelphia as we take a live look at the Philly skyline.

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CORNISH: All right, today there is going to be a public viewing set to be held for the 52-year-old Houston man who was killed by ICE last week. He was shot and killed by agents who claimed that he tried to flee a traffic stop. Now an FBI affidavit alleges drugs were found in the van.

His death, followed by the killing of another man just days later in Maine, who was also at the center of an attempted ICE traffic stop. Now, that latest shooting happened Monday. On Tuesday. DHS agents were told to pause pulling people over. By Wednesday, President Trump had reversed that decision, calling traffic stops one of ICE's, quote, "most important and effective tools."

But some in own party disagree.

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SEN. SUSAN COLLINS (R-ME): To have them routinely done, when we have two recent shootings, that raise very serious questions to me, calls for a halt in that approach for now.

SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI (R-AK): I think you're sending a very conflicting message there. And as we have seen with these recent incidents where we have now at least three fatalities, the American public is rightly concerned.

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CORNISH: Joining us now in the group chat, Congressman Kevin Kiley. He is an independent from California.

Thanks to you for being here.

REP. KEVIN KILEY (I-CA): Of course. CORNISH: I know you have called for very specific reforms to ICE in the past. This is something you have talked about. But I want to play for you Tom Homan, who was asked about this pause on vehicle stops in particular. Here he is.

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TOM HOMAN, BORDER CZAR: It's not a policy change. It's a temporary pause.

I think at the end of this review, which would be a short review, ICE will be right back to doing what they do.

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CORNISH: Should this be a temporary pause or a permanent change?

KILEY: Well, I mean, I think the question -- the issue is that Congress has not asserted itself in the way that it should here to provide some stability here. This is precisely why I have advocated for reforms that I think that are actually bipartisan.

CORNISH: Do you think vehicle stops are valid?

KILEY: I think that the -- you know, the incidents we've seen have raised a lot of questions.

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And so I think that this whiplash that we're saying we're going to pause, we're not going to have a pause, is precisely why we need to actually be forming policy here in a way that strikes the right balance, rather than just doing it sort of on a, you know, on an ad hoc basis.

When you have the sort of tragedies that we've seen, it's obviously created a great deal of distrust, which is why I advocated for the sort of common sense reforms to interior immigration enforcement that I think the vast majority of Americans support. Now --

CORNISH: Like what? What would you like to see? I know body cameras is a thing they're all fighting over.

KILEY: Yes, body cameras, training.

CORNISH: Is there anything else?

KILEY: Sure. Like I've voted in favor of requiring judicial warrants in order to enter homes, of having non-enforcement zones around schools and other sensitive areas, identification.

CORNISH: Is it easier now that you're an independent and not a Republican to say those things out loud?

KILEY: I don't know if it's easier. I mean, I've always been independent minded in the way that I -- and I made these, you know, similar arguments, regardless of my party affiliation.

But -- and I think that, you know, you had plenty of people on both sides who actually agreed that we do need reform like this. It's a very clear example of how the House has just -- Congress has fumbled an opportunity to do something good in a bipartisan way, which unfortunately has happened far too often.

CORNISH: Showing people right now, at least in California voters, do you approve of the job ICE is doing? Democrats, needless to say, disapprove, 94 percent. Independents, 67 percent. In the GOP, though, however, it's just 16 percent who disapprove.

And, Dubke, does this -- does each killing actually shift the mindset, or does it make the administration and those who agree with the mass deportation regime dig in deeper?

DUBKE: No, I do -- both. So, I do think it shifts the mindset of the American public when you've got a -- you know, Donald Trump ran on immigration and shutting down the border. He was incredibly effective in doing that after 2024. And we basically have a shutdown border at the moment.

Where he's failing, and I think where his -- where his numbers are now upside down in terms of immigration, are exactly because of these traffic stops.

CORNISH: Yes. Overreach is real.

DUBKE: It is. And a temporary -- while this was a really temporary pause, it seems --

CORNISH: We can't tell. We can't tell.

DUBKE: But this is also where we're having the problems with ICE almost consistently. So, you've got to take a look at that and go, either we need more training -- I disagree that we need to stop it. I do think that it's an effective tool, but it's obviously not one that these ICE agents are utilizing effectively.

CORNISH: I want to play something for you on another topic. J.D. Vance was on Joe Rogan's podcast talking about many things we discussed today, but one of them was kind of continuing to soak the conversation around the L.A. mayor's race, which California famously has a delay in the count. And, in the end, the Trump-endorsed candidate, Spencer Pratt, did not win.

Here is how J.D. Vance characterized it all.

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J.D. VANCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: But it just so happened that the third place person, in relative terms, did a lot better than the first and second place person.

JOE ROGAN, HOST, "THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE": Disproportionately better. VANCE: Such that the Republican was actually kicked out of the race so that there's not actually a real election in California. That, to me, was the crazy part. It's like you were designing the vote share in order to kick Pratt out and put the third person into second place. That, to me, is like very, very bizarre.

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CORNISH: Having actually run an election in California, do you feel as though something was going on with the counts?

KILEY: No. I don't think anything was going on. That being said, I think that the fact that we count our votes so slow in California is a big problem and --

CORNISH: But does that help?

KILEY: No. I mean I think that we should focus on this as an issue of basic competence and public trust. And "The New York Times" editorial board has agreed with that, "The Washington Post" editorial board has agreed with that, that California needs to count votes faster. People should have the results on election night or close to it. When you drag it out for weeks, then it does create opportunities for people -- and it is kind of odd when just your person who doesn't follow things as closely as we might sees that one person's ahead on election day and another person's ahead weeks later. You know, it's just because the votes are taking a long time to count. There's not necessarily anything nefarious about it. But every other state manages to --

CORNISH: Will it help if the president brings it up in his speech?

KILEY: I don't think it necessarily helps. I think that those of us -- there's a broad consensus that California needs to do a better job of counting votes. And, you know, I think that it just should focus on that as an issue of basic administrative competence.

CORNISH: Lastly, we started the show talking about this vote on military humanitarian aid to Israel. What was your vote? And give us your reason.

KILEY: I voted against the amendment to cut off the aid. Maintaining the American-Israeli relationship, which is mutually beneficial, which is vital to our national security interests in America, has always been broadly bipartisan. It was bipartisan yesterday as well. Hakeem Jeffries, the Democrat leader, opposed that amendment, too. So, I was glad to see that it failed overwhelmingly. Though it is concerning that you had 100 some members who voted for it.

CORNISH: We heard people like AOC. We also heard Jasmine Crockett make an argument that actually was turned towards the economy, turned towards the idea that the U.S. should not be spending this kind of money abroad.

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And we talked about this at the start. And I remember Republicans said this kind of thing about Ukraine, right? Like, there's always a conversation in American politics about what it -- what foreign aid really means.

So, to you, what do you say to those voters who are questioning U.S. foreign aid to Israel and its war operations?

KILEY: Well, of course, every dollar needs to be heavily scrutinized. But if you look at the cost, if Israel were to lose its qualitative military advantage over Iran and its terrorist proxies in the region, these are groups, Hezbollah, Hamas, who do not like the United States and could pose a national security risk to the United States. And so having a strong alliance with the one democratic country in the region, having mutually beneficial technology sharing agreements, intelligence sharing, that is absolutely in the national security interest in the United States and the cost, economic and otherwise, if we were to lose that, would be absolutely immense.

CORNISH: So, when you see the Gallup polling showing those shifts across the American public in their support for this particular Israeli government, do you think, gee, I've got more convincing to do to convince all these Americans that actually this is important or is there something else going on?

KILEY: Well, support for this particular Israeli government is a different question. Of course, you know, people can have different opinions about the Netanyahu government and others that have been at the helm in Israel, just as we'll have different opinions of our own government here in the United States from administration to administration. But the American-Israeli alliance is something that has been enduring and has been bipartisan. And so --

CORNISH: But one affects the other.

KILEY: But certainly, one affects the other. But I think that we need to understand that this is something that is larger than any one administration in either country when it comes to America's national interests.

CORNISH: OK, Congressman, stick around. This is Congressman Kevin Kiley of California.

Next on CNN, Georgia's 2020 election results could be part of the president's address tonight. Former lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan joins us.

Plus, there is a search for a leaker inside the West Wing. How far officials are going to go to find the source.

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CORNISH: OK, so President Trump's primetime address tonight likely aiming to put the 2020 election back in focus. And that means putting Georgia back in the spotlight. Several investigations found the election was free and fair. The president still doesn't buy it. Six years later, people he backs for important roles are still backing the false narrative of a stolen election.

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SEN. JON OSSOFF (D-GA): Who won the 2020 election?

JAY CLAYTON, DNI NOMINEE: You know, we're not -- I'm not -- I'm not going to do this with you.

OSSOFF: Who won the 2020 election?

CLAYTON: I think I've answered the question. We can keep doing this.

OSSOFF: You refuse to answer a basic question about who won a presidential election --

CLAYTON: No, I --

OSSOFF: But you asked to lead America's intelligence community? Isn't it humiliating to be unable to answer this question, to have to indulge the president's delusions?

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CORNISH: Joining me now, Georgia's now former Republican lieutenant governor, who held office during that election, Geoff Duncan.

So, needless to say, you have had this conversation with Trump officials in the past. What did you make of how Blanche answered?

GEOFF DUNCAN FORMER GEORGIA LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR: Well, good for Jon Ossoff and the others that held him accountable in the public square.

I mean, look, this is -- this is so hard to believe that not only do people of this stature actually follow these narratives and try to push these conspiracy theories, but the others, the masses, follow them and believe them, either for political expediency or just because they just don't take the time to actually pay attention to the details.

I think what's going to be frustrating tonight is that if history predicts the future, then this speech is going to be an hour long worth of just conspiracy theories and a mile wide and an inch deep with no facts. And it's going to be talking about solutions in search of a problem over and over and over and over again.

CORNISH: I want to ask you about this. Jon Ossoff obviously leads the Senate race in Georgia right now according to a Fox News poll, 56 to 43. Now, Manu Raju of CNN was asking his Republican opponent, Mike Collins, a similar question, and here's how Collins answered.

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REP. MIKE COLLINS (R), GEORGIA SENATE CANDIDATE: And that's what happened in 2020. They changed the rules up. You don't all of a sudden turn around and start mailing out absentee ballots to everybody. You don't set up drop boxes all over the place for people to just start this mass harvesting, ballot harvesting.

MANU RAJU, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Do you think Trump won?

COLLINS: Trump won that race.

RAJU: In Georgia?

COLLINS: Yes. Yes.

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CORNISH: Georgia is an interesting place because people like you ended up kind of turning against Trump and the Republican Party itself. It's the state that gives us Warnock, but also Marjorie Taylor Greene. At this point, what is the sort of political fallout in Georgia from the persistent dialog about 2020?

DUNCAN: Well, it's answers like that from Mike Collins and the job that Jon Ossoff has done, which is the reason why Jon Ossoff is going to win this race. I think Georgians are smart enough to be able to pay attention to the actual person. I mean, I think that's why you saw, in previous election cycles, Raphael Warnock win and Brian Kemp win. One, obviously, a Democrat. One, obviously, a Republican. And so, I think Georgians are able to pay attention.

And we've seen this play out in three dimensions. We've watched Donald Trump come in and literally rip the soul out of a state just because he was too prideful to admit he got whipped. He got whipped because he was in a terrible place with the voters. He wanted to double down on nonsense. And then he caused two U.S. senators to lose because he put a ring in their nose and dragged them around with a chain for literally weeks in a runoff, trying to make them agree with the fact that the election was rigged.

It wasn't rigged. We all know that. Were there things that we can do to improve? We should all be open-minded enough to know that this is an iterative process with elections. We should make improvements as time goes on. But there was nothing that was rigged in that election we (ph) know.

CORNISH: And we expect to -- yes, we expect to hear the president also talk about the SAVE Act, which is something he's pushing for, which would involve new I.D. requirements for states.

So, I'm sure we're going to hear a lot more. Geoff Duncan, thank you so much.

Very quickly, Mike, I wanted to get your opinion, just because him saying like a ring in the nose, you know what I mean? Like, he -- this is a good example of how irritated some Republicans were in Georgia after the pressure to overturn the election. But him bringing in the fact that he thinks this affects, like Trump going into different races and trying to make a difference, he doesn't see it as a good thing. DUBKE: I think what we saw yesterday in the Clayton testimony with the

Democrats, one after the other after the other, asking the same question, that was -- that was performance art by the Democrats, asking somebody who has been nominated for a job to say something that his -- the new boss doesn't believe.

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Whether or not you agree with Donald Trump. Donald Trump does believe he won in 2020. And this -- I am so tired of this question being asked because I do think it is performative art by the -- by the Democrats and the fact that Republicans keep bringing it up.

CORNISH: OK, Meghan, jump in.

DUBKE: I'm sorry, I just --

HAYS: Hey --

CORNISH: I wanted to get your point of --

DUBKE: It drives me nuts. They don't get to real issues because they keep wanting to ask this question.

CORNISH: Well --

HAYS: But here's the thing. But if they -- it's an integrity --

CORNISH: They don't want to say two and two is five.

HAYS: It's an integrity question and it's who you stand for. and you're going to debate someone, Jay Clayton, who is very well respected, is going to debase himself knowing Joe Biden won that election --

DUBKE: Clayton yesterday said that Joe Biden won the electoral votes.

HAYS: Then why couldn't he just say yes to Jon Ossoff?

DUBKE: He did. He did say that.

HAYS: When Jon Ossoff asked, why didn't he say yes? Because that's core stuff.

DUBKE: Because he's not going to play the game with the Democrats. He --

HAYS: And he -- now he humiliated himself.

CORNISH: All right, let's let a lawmaker jump in. Is it a game, is it a gotcha to ask someone whether or not President Trump lost the election, or to simply who won the election? Is that a gotcha moment?

KYLIE: I mean, it shouldn't be a hard question. It's clearly there's an answer.

HAYS: Exactly.

KYLIE: President Biden won. I, you know, I don't know why we continue to dwell on this on either side.

CORNISH: It's performance, says Mike.

DUBKE: It is performance.

CORNISH: It's performance and answer as well as question.

HAYS: Well, because -- because he -- but the problem is that Donald Trump keeps bringing it up. He's doing an entire primetime address on it tonight talking about election security and election fraud and how the 2020 election was stolen.

And just a few days ago, saying that the senators from Georgia are illegitimate. What does that say to the voters in Georgia? I mean you're -- this is -- he is continuing to make this an issue.

DUBKE: It is.

HAYS: If he just let it go and lived his life as the 47th president, we would be in a much better place.

DUBKE: Meghan, I do not disagree with you on that point.

But I will say, being in the White House in 2017 and having to deal with all of the Democrats saying that Donald Trump wasn't -- wasn't properly elected because he didn't win the popular vote in 2017, even though he won the electoral vote, which is the way we play this game in America --

HAYS: I hear you.

DUBKE: That was -- we dealt with that for months, and it got played over and over and over again. So, this is that, in my mind, the same performative art again. But now it's --

CORNISH: So, you're looking forward to this speech, you're like --

DUBKE: Oh, I --

HAYS: But you don't have Hillary Clinton running around being like, I was the president.

DUBKE: You know what --

CORNISH: Yes.

HAYS: Like, I mean, this is just insane.

HAYS: No, it's worth asking just because, in general, like the more you talk about it, the more it remains an issue. And this week we're in an inflection point with Iran. This week we are talking about rising prices. There are definitely five other topics I'd like to hear out of a primetime address that we will not. DUBKE: Yes.

HAYS: Exactly.

BOBIC: It's a gotcha question, but it's an effective one, I think, for Democrats --

CORNISH: Yes, Ossoff looked happy about --

BOBIC: Because what are we talking about?

CORNISH: Yes.

BOBIC: What are we talking about right now?

DUBKE: We are -- well, not the Reflecting Pool.

CORNISH: I --

DUBKE: Because they're --

HAYS: Clearly --

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DUBKE: I guess there's something good coming out of it.

CORNISH: It's OK. I can bring you some green water if you want to relive it.

All right, we're going to talk about what is in your group chat. We have a guest. It is the congressman.

What is in your group chat?

KILEY: Well, my wife and I are expecting our first child. So, we're excited about that.

CORNISH: Your first child.

KILEY: Yes.

CORNISH: Oh my gosh. Yes, I'm excited.

KILEY: So, a little girl and (INAUDIBLE).

CORNISH: Oh, you even know the gender and everything. Oh, wow.

KILEY: So, no, very exciting. Hitting all the milestones there.

CORNISH: Shouldn't you be somewhere buying her something? A special pillow?

HAYS: She's very early.

CORNISH: Yes. So, we don't have to check your testosterone levels, is what you're saying.

DUBKE: Oh.

CORNISH: That's not -- that's not in the text. It doesn't -- high t Kylie because it's --

KYLIE: Ask the secretary of war.

CORNISH: OK. Igor, what about you?

BOBIC: Sorry in advance, but --

CORNISH: What could be worse than what I just said? Go on.

BOBIC: This horrible stomach bug that's going around across the country.

CORNISH: Oh, OK, you win.

BOBIC: But I'll say this, I'm loving it because --

CORNISH: Because you don't have it.

BOBIC: You're giving me an excuse to eat, you know, the terrible food. Just, you know, no vegetables. Great. Awesome.

CORNISH: Yes, so, under you we're going to just put a banner that says, man won't eat salad anyway.

KYLIE: Yes.

CORNISH: Just so we're clear.

HAYS: I've been saying, fast food's the way to go. I don't know why people fight me on it. I don't get sick.

CORNISH: OK.

DUBKE: Well, that's where they got it, though. It was a fast food joint where they put lettuce under some meat.

HAYS: Why?

CORNISH: We don't I it was lettuce for sure.

HAYS: We don't -- we don't know that. How would you know?

DUBKE: Or there is cilantro, actually.

CORNISH: They are still looking it up. I don't know. Listen, the folks at Taco Bell have subtracted many ingredients because they don't have information.

DUBKE: I'm hearing cilantro.

HAYS: And we don't have the people in the CDC to look at it, so we have no idea.

DUBKE: That's right.

CORNISH: Oh my God, this group is awesome.

DUBKE: Listen --

CORNISH: Just so everyone knows, these two are now officially in my phone on a group chat.

DUBKE: Honestly --

CORNISH: And it says Thursday heated rivalry.

HAYS: Yes.

CORNISH: That's the name of it in my phone.

BOBIC: Nice.

DUBKE: My -- seriously, in my group chat, there was a picture of Taco Bell gain of function lab that had this particular topic.

CORNISH: I don't know. I --

DUBKE: But that's not my group chat.

CORNISH: That's -- what is your group chat, Mike?

DUBKE: I'm just telling you that's in another group chat I --

CORNISH: I like it. I like it.

HAYS: What's your group chat?

DUBKE: My group chat is lock the clock. I appreciate what the House did trying to get --

CORNISH: This is the Daylight Saving --

DUBKE: But they did it wrong.

CORNISH: Did you vote for this?

KYLIE: I did. And, you know, there's a debate, do you do standard? Do you do Daylight?

DUBKE: They get it wrong.

KYLIE: I think both are better than going back and forth.

DUBKE: Standard is better than daylight. It cuts down on heart attacks, strokes, a lot -- better -- better sleep.

CORNISH: Yes.

DUBKE: It's safer for children.

CORNISH: I'm pro-standard.

DUBKE: We go standard.

CORNISH: But that's not where we are.

DUBKE: It was a bunch of retailers that pushed for them to go Daylight.

HAYS: No. Of course we don't do it the way we should do it. We did the opposite of what we should do.

DUBKE: Exactly.

CORNISH: What's going on there?

KYLIE: Well, look, we can always revisit it. I think that the --

HAYS: The last time this happened --

CORNISH: When you have --

KYLIE: Not going back and forth anymore is better than -- you know, it's better than that.

CORNISH: When you have a newborn, that's when we're going to revisit it, this spring forward, OK?

KYLIE: Right.

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CORNISH: Last word to you, Meghan.

HAYS: I spent the weekend in -- a long weekend in Vegas. And the argument over humidity, the heat versus a dry heat. And I am team dry heat all the way.

CORNISH: Dry heat all the way. All the way.

DUBKE: Who is on team humidity?

HAYS: I don't know. All the people who live on the East Coast that never go west.

CORNISH: We don't like the humidity. That's what we always say, it's not the heat it's the humidity.

DUBKE: Oh, my goodness.

HAYS: West Coast. West Coast.

CORNISH: Oh, my God, group chat.

HAYS: The Congressman and I can I agree on that. KYLIE: There you have it (ph).

CORNISH: Thank you so much for waking up with us. You could be anywhere, but somehow you're here with us. The headlines are next.

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