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Privacy Concerns over Flock Surveillance Cameras; Navy Moves Carrier to Relieve USS Lincoln; Hegseth in Iowa Campaigning; Florida Primary Polls Open Today. Aired 6:30-7a ET
Aired August 18, 2026 - 06:30 ET
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AUDIE CORNISH, CNN ANCHOR: So, law enforcement technology company Flock is in damage control over their surveillance camera network as protests against the cameras break out nationwide. The company's CEO just announced a new policy which will mandate all police departments to more closely audit its users. But the change in policy may be a little too late for like a lot of people across the country.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's kind of scary the way technology is advancing so rapidly.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're concerned about the unregulated use of these Flock cameras.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What's happening is basically they're taking it and they're -- mass surveillance is what is going on. And, in my opinion, it has nothing to do with politics. It's about safety.
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CORNISH: OK, group chat is back.
This is one of those interesting stories because in a way law enforcement loves this.
MIKE LEON, HOST, "CAN WE PLEASE TALK": Yes.
CORNISH: Republicans in particular are usually supposed to be kind of the advocates for law enforcement in the political space. We were talking during the break about, you know, talking to candidates about it. How do you talk about this if your traditional position is, law enforcement is probably right?
KRISTIN DAVISON, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Well, the other thing with Republicans is privacy is as well. I mean we're, you know, a small government, you know, libertarian, no -- don't tread on me party. So -- CORNISH: Yes.
LEON: Supposed to -- it's supposed to be.
CORNISH: Yes.
DAVISON: So, we have -- so, we have -- we have both ears.
This isn't new. I mean you go back to 2016 in the Iowa caucus in that presidential election, red light cameras were the big issue, right? Not really talked about.
CORNISH: But it feels very different because of the A.I. data center conversation.
DAVISON: Exactly. Right.
CORNISH: Here -- I just want to play for you and then I want to let you finish. This is the Flock CEO who's finally gone on a listening tour about concerns. And here is what he learned.
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GARRETT LANGLEY, FLOCK CEO: I eventually realized it was not about the camera, it was about trust. She didn't trust the police system. She didn't trust the police department.
My hope is that, not just Flock, but our peers in the industry and state regulators wake up to this problem and also start increasing the penalties for a violation of the power that we entrust in law enforcement.
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DAVISON: I think he needs a new P.R. team. I think that was a terrible answer to give on what --
CORNISH: What do you think of it?
JERUSALEM DEMSAS, FOUNDER AND EDITOR, "THE ARGUMENT": I mean, I think that it's like an impossible situation that the technology that he's creating is one that is going to have severe privacy concerns no matter what. There's no, like, answer that's going to resolve those concerns, no listening tour that's going to make someone feel comfortable with that if they already have concerns about their local law enforcement or whatever it is.
And, I mean, I think it's like correct what he's saying, but it's also just not going to change the fundamental political circumstances.
CORNISH: I thought it was interesting because I thought more or less after the election of Trump, people had put together -- put to bed the issue of police brutality and police abuse.
[06:35:02] Then this reporting comes out. Officer in Milwaukee, for example, accused of, quote, "secretly using Flock to learn the location of his romantic partner 124 times, that partner's ex 55 times."
This is not turning into a bad apple story.
LEON: Yes.
CORNISH: He's saying something specific. People don't trust the police, and they're taking it out on these cameras because law enforcement is using them.
LEON: So, I look at it from this lens because I worked in technology. My father is an engineer. I worked as a product manager. A lot of records retention, data privacy concerns, and putting that up front for customers. I think that's a big issue because you don't know that with Flock. You don't know how long it's recording for, how long it's stored.
CORNISH: Yes.
LEON: That's part of the ACLU's contention with it.
This is what I found interesting, Audie. There's a community in Texas in 2024, according to "Axios," that went plus 20 for Trump. They unanimously voted to take this away. Then Denver cut off their contract with Flock. That's red --
CORNISH: Let me put this up while you're talking.
LEON: That's red and blue.
CORNISH: Twenty local jurisdictions move towards canceling Flock contracts in July.
LEON: Right. Exactly. So, there's -- so there's concerns on both sides of the aisle. This is a very big issue right now because of privacy concerns. We should all be concerned about this because we don't make this stuff transparent up front to consumers.
I do agree with you that he does need a little bit of a different P.R. team.
CORNISH: Yes.
LEON: And a tone and explain to folks, this is just like with voters, explain to them how the policy is going to impact them and who it will actually affect. This is what he needs to do with respect to how his companies retains --
CORNISH: But I think if people are worried about warrantless searches --
LEON: Yes.
CORNISH: About things going too far, things they've already raised with ICE, with the police, there's other places where this stuff is --
DEMSAS: I don't think like crime is at a -- at a -- at a historic low right now. Like, murders have gone down significantly, property crime.
LEON: Across big cities, yes.
CORNISH: Yes.
DEMSAS: And so, I imagine the public would be more amenable to something like this. You know, a couple years back, when you were having a real fear of crime rates rising continuously, but now we're having the opposite thing happen, people are like, what's the point? Why are we putting up with this if we're actually having pretty safe times (INAUDIBLE)?
CORNISH: Well, the next step for me is watching whether or not there's going to be a political movement that arises out of the anti-A.I. data center, your Flock anger. I was saying, if there's one more tech thing that pushes people over the edge, you've got a three-legged stool for a candidate.
Next on CNN THIS MORNING, we're going to talk about the naval shuffle with global consequences. Did the U.S.' push against Iran actually create a gap that China can exploit?
Plus, it's primary day in Florida. Will Trump's backing be enough to carry Congressman Cory Mills through a storm of legal controversy? The group chat's going to discuss.
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CORNISH: OK, so relief is on the way for the USS Abraham Lincoln, but that might mean another gap in defense could open up. The USS George Washington is heading from Japan to the Arabian Sea to replace the Lincoln. That leaves the U.S. without a warship in the western Pacific. And while the U.S. military sees the need to bring in reinforcements for the Lincoln, President Trump, well, he's still downplaying what they're dealing with.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Yes. It is -- that was a -- that was a CNN fake report. The Lincoln has been out there for a period of time, good period of time. But over the years, we've had them out there much longer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Actually, I would say morale is pretty low. And not just in the division, like, in the -- in the ship entirely, you know.
It's hard. The food -- I'm sure you heard the food was pretty bad for a couple of months. We were surviving on not a lot. And it takes a lot to push through.
(END VIDEO CLIP) CORNISH: OK, that was our own Pam Brown on that ship last month before the reporting we're hearing now.
So, we're bringing in CNN senior military analyst Admiral James Stavridis.
So, I'm sure it must be fascinating to hear everyone who is now an expert on battleship living. What do you think when you hear what these military families are saying versus what the White House is saying?
ADMIRAL JAMES STAVRIDIS (RET.), CNN SENIOR MILITARY ANALYST: The truth, as usual, lies kind of in the middle, Audie, meaning on a scale that runs from, oh my gosh, the ship is a disaster, we've got to get them into port tomorrow, and on the other end is, oh, they just need to suck it up, get tough, they can do this any time. It's kind of in the middle.
This particular cruise is lengthy, demanding and hard. Morale has probably taken a hit, as you just heard. But the ship has stood and delivered. Now we're going to get it relieved, bring it home. I hope the ship gets the recognition it needs for having completed a very tough deployment.
CORNISH: You know, I want to know about the shifting around. The White House is saying that this was a planned move, but it is leaving Japan. We talked about a pause and exercises yesterday, military exercises with South Korea. Are we seeing a gap in the Pacific as a result of the White House and their decision on the Iran War?
STAVRIDIS: The way to think about this is, the number of those big, beautiful nuclear powered aircraft carriers you're showing with 80 combat aircraft, 5,000 troops aboard, they are machines of war unlike anything built, but they're finite in their numbers. We have 11 of them. A third are typically in maintenance. A third of them are in training. So, really, forward, ready to go, you've got three carriers, four at the most. So, yes is the short answer to your question. We will not have a carrier in the western Pacific.
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And that has real, strategic implications for the force and for the nation.
CORNISH: Our own Kristen Holmes asked the president over the weekend about kind of the dangers or concerns in the region. In this case, she focused on North Korea. And I want to play for you that exchange.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: What I'm doing is making things safer.
KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Did he -- did he ask you --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. -- Mr. President, I know -- HOLMES: Did he ask you specifically to scale back on those?
TRUMP: Quiet, quiet, quiet. You're very disrespectful in front of this young man. OK. Don't you find her disrespectful? He understands. Quiet. Who are you with?
HOLMES: I'm with CNN.
TRUMP: Fake news. You're fake news.
HOLMES: I just wanted to follow up on the South Korea question.
TRUMP: You're a loud -- you're a loud, boisterous person. You're fake news.
HOLMES: I was trying to find out if you had been talking to Kim Jong- un, if he had ask you to scale back on those military exercises.
TRUMP: Be quiet. Be quiet. Be quite. You're a fake reporter and you report fake news.
Go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why hasn't Kim Jong-un responded to your request to have a conversation?
TRUMP: How do you know he hasn't responded?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Has he?
TRUMP: Yes, he has.
I understand him. He understands me. You're doing war games. I get along with him. You know, he didn't like Biden. He didn't like Obama. He didn't like anybody. But I get along with him very well. Now, what I'm doing is making things safer.
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CORNISH: The president often responds this way to questions that he is sensitive about. And I am curious about this topic. The idea that he's saying, look, Kim Jong-un, we get each other. And whether or not that is a concern, when you look at our actual behavior, the moving of pieces in the region.
STAVRIDIS: You are precisely correct. And it is all about actions and deeds, not words. So, I'm happy if the president gets along with Kim Jong-un. That's not going to help us when Kim Jong-un sends tens of thousands of troops to fight for Vladimir Putin in Ukraine. It's not going to help us when Kim expands his nuclear arsenal, as he's doing day by day. It's not going to help us when Kim launches ballistic missiles at our closest ally in the Pacific, Japan, and continues to threaten South Korea, a true and I would say model ally of the United States.
So, in all of those instances, I'm watching for a change in behavior from Kim Jong-un, not a love letter to Donald Trump.
CORNISH: OK. Admiral Stavridis, always appreciate your insight. Thank you so much.
STAVRIDIS: You bet.
CORNISH: I want to talk about one other thing in the military. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth going on the offensive, but this time on the campaign trail in Iowa. Hegseth appeared at an event for GOP Congressman Zach Nunn at the Iowa State Fair Monday. A Pentagon spokesman says Hegseth went there in a personal capacity.
This is the second time Hegseth has hit the campaign trail for a Trump-endorsed candidate this year. He was last in Kentucky to support the candidate who eventually beat Tom Massie. But does Hegseth have his eyes on a higher goal? "The Washington Post" reports, quote, "officials familiar with Hegseth's thinking believe that he is considering a run for president or some other political office after his time in the Trump administration is over. The travel to Iowa, a presidential campaign proving ground, fits that pattern."
The group chat is back.
Every time somebody goes to the Iowa State Fair, a political consultant gets their wings. Are we actually looking at someone who is interested in 2028?
LEON: Listen, I want to start with this. In 2004 to 2006, I was a P.A. and a writer on "Fox and Friends" on the weekend edition. So, I worked on "Fox and Friends." If I had just stayed 20 years, I could be running the military. Who knew that? That a weekend co-anchor is running the military with Pete Hegseth.
But listen, Audie, YouGov just has an unfavorable rating recently of Pete Hegseth of 45 percent. He went to South Carolina to campaign with Darline Graham. Now we see that that's going into a runoff. We have the military flyover stories that are becoming a big issue. We just saw the USS Lincoln story. Why would you deploy this person, who has such an unfavourability rating with respect to the public, and all the different --
CORNISH: Well, because in a primary it's a different voter and maybe they like him. I don't know.
LEON: Yes, but hide him. I don't know.
DAVISON: Well, look, one, I don't think this is Hegseth's launch into 2028. Maybe he likes the bacon on a stick at the state fair. It's very good. But I do think --
CORNISH: Who among us?
DAVISON: Exactly. You know, these campaigns know what's going to work in their race. The White House political operation, they're smart people. They're not going to send folks out there who are going to hurt the candidates. So, there's obviously data that probably shows that this helps rile up the base. There's a connection with Congressman Zach Nunn. They have a military connection. So, these cabinet officials will not go somewhere that isn't requested or sent.
CORNISH: Yes. But I think we're asking because it's an unpopular war. You know what I mean. Like it's a historically unpopular war on the right.
DEMSAS: Yes, also -- and also I'll just say this. I mean we see all the time that administrations get captured by their base, especially like in the epistemic environment on Twitter and in their echo chambers.
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We saw this, of course, the Biden administration really getting stuck on this idea that they were able to sell the economy was good, even though people were upset about inflation. And right now what we're seeing is yet again the Trump administration seemingly thinking that, like, it's very extreme policies on the Iran War, on -- not really focusing on inflation, not really focusing on the economy are appropriate.
I think Hegseth is really far outside the mainstream of even the Republican Party, to be honest. And I think that it's -- you know, you see even, you know, Democrats, Republicans all the time campaigning with people that I think probably don't help them, like, you know, Hasan Piker, of course, is a good example of this. So, I don't think it's a proof point that, you know, someone invited him to campaign with them. I think Hegseth is an extraordinarily weak candidate. He's someone who's, you know, going to be, you know, extremely vulnerable on foreign policy, extremely vulnerable to attacks from the base of the Republican Party. You're seeing all of these podcasters get very angry about the foreign policy of this administration. I do think it's going to be a problem for him if he -- if he's serious about being president.
DAVISON: I can't imagine he is.
DEMSAS: Yes.
DAVISON: I just -- he's got a lot of things going on.
LEON: Yes.
DAVISON: I just -- I don't think that the political operation would send him there if he seriously was considering it. Why make the news? He's supposed to be there for the candidates. And, you know, they could -- he is a communicator. He -- like you said, he's been on TV for a long time. So maybe, you know, there's a belief that he can help communicate the success and challenges of the war to help, you know --
CORNISH: Well, let me talk about one other state then that we talk about a lot in 2028, Florida. In just a few minutes, polls open for primary elections there. And we're going to talk about this race, Cory Mills. It's the GOP's latest big test. Now, he's an incumbent Republican. He's in a tough battle for re-election. He was endorsed by President Trump in February, but he's lost crucial backing from high- profile GOP lawmakers following domestic abuse allegations.
So, let me turn to you guys about this.
What is this situation where Congress is literally like domestic abuse situations? Go figure that out. We're not really endorsing that. And Trump somehow thinks, good guy.
LEON: We've talked about this on my show. Where is that line now? The line is criminality for some reason. Marital -- extramarital affairs doesn't get you disqualified anymore. Lying doesn't get you disqualified anymore. But something to the level of what he did, especially in that district, which is a little more central Florida --
CORNISH: Yes. Where it reaches a court of law, right?
LEON: Right. Exactly, where it reaches a court of law.
CORNISH: I think there's some -- something to that.
LEON: Will he win re-election?
DEMSAS: Well, I don't know. Look at Ohio and Max Miller. I mean that's reached a court of law, and they're still standing by him.
LEON: Good point. That's a very good point.
DEMSAS: And to me, I mean, I think that this gets back to our earlier conversation about, you know, the furor inside the White House about whether or not Ossoff should be calling out a potential aid. And it's like, how can you have so much concern for how Democrats are conducting themselves, whether they're talking about women inappropriately, when you have candidates running on your party line --
LEON: Right.
DEMSAS: Who have credible allegations of domestic violence, child abuse, I mean, like, these are serious allegations.
LEON: And he just ran on the Platner stuff. They just ran on Platner --
DAVISON: So, everyone that endorsed Graham Platner --
LEON: Right.
DAVISON: Has not come out and said, oh, we were wrong. They just --
DEMSAS: But Democrats get to know.
DAVISON: Thank God that went away.
LEON: Yes, but it's not a whataboutism. It's not a whataboutism. It's -- they're both -- they 're both bad.
DAVISON: He's not going away. He's not going away. He's -- DEMSAS: He is. And, look, this is Eric Swalwell right here and that --
DAVISON: Yes, let's let --
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CORNISH: And let's not even talk about Ohio, where you literally have a senator, Bernie Moreno, a Trump supporting senator, saying, hey, my daughter is making allegations. And the party's like, I don't know. We should let the voters decide.
DAVISON: Well, you know, it's -- I think the -- in the instance of Florida, I think you've seen candidate quality matters, you know, at the end of the day. I think Trump is very early, was a supporter. I think that Cory Mills is in a big fight. I don't know, I mean, the last poll I saw he was down. And so, voters are going to decide at the end of the day. And I don't think it's up to, you know, if we held every person for their endorsement, I mean, every one on the Democrat Party who endorsed Graham Platner should have to go and walk out and say that they were wrong, which hasn't happened. So --
CORNISH: Well, let me -- lots have, actually.
DEMSAS: I wouldn't say there's a lot. There's a lot --
CORNISH: Yes, there's a lot of finger pointing there. But, yes.
Notable, Trump voting by mail, a thing he says the rest of us should not do.
LEON: Right.
CORNISH: I want to talk about one other thing.
Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz seeking a 12th term. She's actually running in a new district. And I want to mention this because we were talking about new -- like redistricting for months on end on this show. And Republicans scramble to like create this map. And she is effectively now the only white candidate against four black candidates in an area of Broward County that has actually elected a lot of black politicians since 1992.
Anyone want to help me weigh the politics here of Wasserman Schultz, a new district, the politics of the area.
LEON: Yes. Well, you know, I just moved back from Florida. I used to work in that district, in Sunrise over there.
One thing that I found interesting that somebody posted online, I want to read it because it's very interesting. Look, this is smart politics, but it's not honorable what she's doing, because there are other black candidates, including Uncle Luke from the Two Live Crew, where Audie used to go out back in the day and dance to Uncle Luke's music, maybe. Who hasn't?
CORNISH: I mean, again. Again. It was a wild time. LEON: Right. But there are other -- but there are other candidates in there. And she's coming from a district where she won by about eight percentage points. And now she's moving over to this district, where she doesn't live. Like you said, the predominantly black and black candidates that live in there.
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Is that something that should be done in American politics because she thinks maybe her seat she won't win (ph).
CORNISH: Yes, but just because Republicans messed with the map doesn't mean she should like, you know, just disappear, right? She's the person with a long time --
DEMSAS: Well, the voters can decide.
LEON: But she doesn't live there.
DAVISON: I mean this -- no, this is the biggest case of political, you know, ambition that I've seen in a long time. She cares about her --
CORNISH: On whose part?
DAVISON: On hers. I mean, well, it's also a failure of the Congressional Black Caucus of recruiting a strong candidate to go against her. But I do think in this district, she's not running in a district that was her own. She's putting aside the historical, you know, trends of that part of the state just to keep -- to stay in Congress. I think Florida, the Democrat primary, is actually even more interesting than the Cory Mills stuff we were talking about because there is that -- we're going to see that internal battle between the far left --
CORNISH: Yes. Well, because there's a new map. That was the point, right, to make Democrats scramble?
DAVISON: Well, not even that. The Senate race. I mean Vindman is only up ten points.
CORNISH: Yes.
DAVISON: He has a very progressive person to his left.
CORNISH: Jerusalem, did you have a thought on this?
DEMSAS: I mean, I just -- I think that, you know, no one owns a district. The people get to vote for who they want to vote for. And I think there's a weird kind of sense within the Democratic Party for sure but also the Republican Party sometimes where, you know, you get to decide where people run and it happens behind the scenes. And I'm like, if she wants to run in a district, she runs in a district. If a black candidate wants to run in that district, they get to run in that district. And if the black voters decide they want a black candidate, they'll vote for that person. And I find it like a little bit concerning how much conversation
happens in D.C. that indicates that somehow the voters should be prevented from getting to make that choice.
CORNISH: Yes, as they draw those lines. That's the thing we've been talking about.
LEON: But Lauren Boebert did that in Colorado and we saw what happened with that. She didn't live in the district. She got hammered for that. And she lost in district five when she lived in district four, nowhere near it.
CORNISH: All right, let me talk about what's in your group chats. Since you're like sports, "Fox and Friends," all the things --
LEON: Right.
CORNISH: What's in your group chat? I need to know.
LEON: Well, first off, it's always the Knicks, Audie, because its Knicks and five and we want a championship. I'm not going to lead with that.
CORNISH: Oh my God, are we still talking about it?
LEON: But it does -- but it does carry over because the Knicks will be on "The Zone" (ph). I work a day job for "The Zone." And in the boxing space we have a big fight Saturday, August 22nd in Vegas at the T- Mobile Arena.
CORNISH: Are the Knicks fighting? What's happening now?
LEON: The Knicks are not fighting.
CORNISH: How are the Knicks related to this, Mike Leon?
LEON: It's not. I just wanted to bring that up.
CORNISH: Oh my God.
LEON: Rolly Romero versus Teofimo Lopez. And the reason I bring it up is because I've talked to you about this. The combat sports space is where Trump has always lived in that space.
CORNISH: Oh, enormous. Yes.
LEON: The main fighter, Teofimo Lopez, coined the phrase "make boxing great again" and started selling merchandise off of it. You see the photo here from the show that I executive produced called "Locked In" that airs tonight on TruTV at 10:30 p.m. They took all that merchandise and made "make boxing great again."
So, look at what Trump has started. He's used the combat sports space to talk to voters, and then it's siphoned off with people like this creating merchandise off of it --
CORNISH: Talking back.
LEON: And making their make America great again symbols.
CORNISH: OK. Group chat.
DAVISON: So, this was actually in one of my group chats, the recent story on all of the body (ph) men and women for senators on The Hill, these young staffers who serve as the assistants that stay by these elected sides. So, it's fun to go and see light shine on what is arguably one of the most important jobs in the political sphere.
CORNISH: And for people who don't know, this is a weird group of people who they just stand --
DAVISON: Not weird. Not weird. They're not weird. They're very dedicated.
CORNISH: Well, they're -- well, the reason why I say weird is, is like, are they assistants? Do they take notes? What do they do?
DAVISON: They're everything. Yes.
CORNISH: They're a person who stands by and helps because male senators don't have a purse. Like, I mean, Obama had a body guy.
DAVISON: Well, there are female senators (INAUDIBLE) too. Here's why they're important.
CORNISH: Tell me. Sell it.
DAVISON: Especially it -- especially -- I think they're more important on campaigns. But especially in our day and age where everyone has a phone and everyone has a camera, when you're at an event and there's a tracker coming up to your boss and they want to --
CORNISH: And they stand in front of the camera.
DAVISON: They are the last line of defense. So, all those young men and women out there who are body guys.
CORNISH: You haven't sold me on it.
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DEMSAS: Haven't you seen "Veep"?
LEON: I think of "Veep." I was just going to say, I think of Gary. I think of Gary.
DEMSAS: Come on. Yes.
CORNISH: Again, not the Gary allegations. "Veep" is not the example you want.
LEON: I love Gary though.
CORNISH: OK, Jerusalem.
DEMSAS: Yes, my group chat has largely been about "The Atlantic" article that came out recently by -- about Julia Curley (ph), who was a trans official under four presidential administrations who eventually had to leave her post after Laura Loomer and others had really gone after.
CORNISH: And you said after four administrations.
DEMSAS: Four administrations, which means she served under the first Trump administration, served under and briefed Mike Pence, who she recalled as being very, very kind to her, talking to her and, you know, telling her mother that she was, you know, her daughter was fantastic. And it's really just a story about these, like, civil servants who have been doing their jobs kind of under the -- under the radar and how they often get politicized and how in this administration right now you're seeing this politicization go beyond just identity, but also to be about ideology. And, of course, every administration gets to decide what the direction of the government should be. But when you have --
CORNISH: Yes, but gender and trans rights is a particularly at the center of the sort of culture wars that came out of the second election really.
DEMSAS: Totally. Yes. But also we also have the, you know, most of the government is made up of civil servants that go from administration to administration. They're supposed to be, you know, stable, and it's supposed to provide some level -- you don't want the entire government shifting over every four years.
CORNISH: Yes.
DEMSAS: And so, this was a really beautiful story that I thought -- and it was her writing from her perspective about serving under Republican and Democratic administrations and how she feels, you know, this one has really moved beyond what the norm used to be.
CORNISH: Well, mine is going to be this Tupac trial. A child of the '90s.
LEON: Oh.
CORNISH: This is a case I have been following for a long time. And also one of my favorite reporters ever, Laura Coates, is going to be doing coverage of this.
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You guys don't want to miss it. And we are going to be streaming it. So, you can check it out and hear for yourself.
We're also going to have special coverage tonight of these primaries. As you heard, we talked about voters in Florida, and it looks like there, Alaska. Sorry about that. We didn't talk about that. Wyoming. We're not on 2028 just yet, OK. So, stick with us.
