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Upset In Florida: Dem Socialist Angie Nixon Wins Senate Primary; Disney Sues FCC Over Alleged "Retaliatory Campaign" Against ABC; Sen. Darline Graham: "National Security Is Not My Thing"; Democrats New Strategy Bring Sexy Back. Aired 6:30-7a ET
Aired August 19, 2026 - 06:30 ET
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STATE REP. ANGIE NIXON (D-FL), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE: They tried to intimidate us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
NIXON: They told us to step aside, but we knew better.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
NIXON: And we, the hard-working, everyday people of Florida send a shockwave to the Washington, D.C. establishment.
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AUDIE CORNISH, CNN ANCHOR: OK, Democratic Socialists score another win. Are Florida Republicans the winners here? State Representative Angie Nixon will advance to the November ballot for one of Florida's Senate seats. The question is, will the DSA label hurt her come November?
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She spoke to CNN last night after her win.
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NIXON: It's not about people's labels for me. I'm a single mom. I was a single mom for 12 years. I'm a mother now. I'm an organizer. I'm a community organizer.
But more importantly, it's about the needs of the people. And what people need is they need housing, right? They need universal health care. They want universal child care.
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CORNISH: Group Chat is back. We keep racking these up, right? We're just following it because we're trying to figure out are we looking at a movement? Are we looking at a label? What do you see in these wins?
JULIA MANCHESTER, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, THE HILL: What's interesting is that you had this major win, a surprise upset by Angie Nixon. But then in South Florida, where you had Jared Moskowitz and Debbie Wasserman Schultz facing two progressive primary challengers, you saw them essentially handily beat those challengers. So, I think --
CORNISH: You had divided the vote, right? They didn't coalesce around a particular candidate.
MANCHESTER: Right. Exactly. Particularly in Wasserman Schultz's district.
CORNISH: But I'm just wondering, because you had Vindman lose, right?
MANCHESTER: Yes.
CORNISH: In another state. It just feels as though the way she made her argument, look, before you start talking about socialism, I am all these other things. And those things appeal to people who have concerns. I thought it was interesting.
MANCHESTER: Well, I think it's probably a better argument than the argument that was made by Oliver Larkin in Moskowitz's district or Elijah Manley in Wasserman Schultz's district. I think she's selling it in a way that's palatable to the voter. The question is, though, is that enough to overcome, you know, someone like Ashley Moody, who I will say was never elected senator. She's won statewide, but she was appointed senator.
So it's going to be an interesting race.
CORNISH: OK, here's what she had to say. This is Ashley Moody, who's got her argument ready for November.
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SEN. ASHLEY MOODY (R-FL): This election is so much more than voting for a person for the United States Senate. This is about voting for the future of this country.
Angie Nixon, who will be my opponent in November and her comrades, want to destroy this country and everything that it is built on.
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CORNISH: Comrades.
ANTJUAN SEAWRIGHT, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Look, I'm not surprised by that. Republicans are going we're going to attack whoever the nominee was going to be out of any state and call them a socialist because that's politically convenient for them. In fact, it's lazy.
But what I will say about the primary in Florida is that all politics is local and local relationships matter. She's a state rep. CORNISH: Relationships, yes.
SEAWRIGHT: She's an organizer. And the fact that she had key relationships in the state and her opponent dismissed her, did not debate her and all the things that made the assumption that finance was going to mean political romance. And that was not the case.
And keep in mind, as I've said on this program and others, black voters make up a majority vote in these Democratic primaries. She is a qualified black woman and --
CORNISH: But here's a memo --
SEAWRIGHT: -- that men (ph).
CORNISH: -- from the House Republican Conference. They said to their members, Americans still hold communism as far more dangerous and alarming than socialism and Marxism. That is an important indicator for members. Do your best to connect all three.
TERRY SCHILLING, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN PRINCIPLES PROJECT: Yes, that's incredibly smart. It's true. The DSA is absolutely radical. I think the bigger --
CORNISH: Are you preparing ads along those lines are like, what are you thinking?
SCHILLING: We've got some stuff in the works.
CORNISH: Oh boy. Why do you think I have you on this show, Terry? I'm trying to get information.
SCHILLING: Look, I think what the Democrats are going through is they have this establishment that has not been representing the working class voters of their party in the base.
And so the DSA is rising. She was outspent 16 to 1 and still won by double digits. That is an indictment of Chuck Schumer and the entire Democratic Party.
SEAWRIGHT: No, no. That is what you what we mean by local relationships and the fact that she had connections and (INAUDIBLE) --
CORNISH: And we're going to talk about ships next because we're going to talk more about Democrats. I promise, Antjuan, you'll get to talk more. And there's even a Justin Timberlake reference, which I know.
SEAWRIGHT: What bringing sexy back.
CORNISH: Yes. Are Democrats bringing sexy back? The party is looking to turn social media engagement into political action.
Plus, there's this.
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SEN. DARLINE GRAHAM (R-SC): National security is not my thing, not my area of expertise, but I do support the military.
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CORNISH: Hey, that was Senator Darline Graham with her first big test in a debate for her late brother's Senate seat.
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BRENDAN CARR, CHAIRMAN, FCC: We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel. Or, you know, there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.
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CORNISH: Well, it looks like Disney is choosing the hard way. On Tuesday, the company filed a lawsuit against FCC Chair Brendan Carr and the FCC, alleging that the Trump administration is carrying out a, quote, retaliatory campaign against ABC stations.
So the lawsuit cites comments like those from Carr as proof that the FCC is looking to violate the company's First Amendment rights because the administration, quote, disapproves of what ABC broadcasts. And it's interesting timing, of course, for ABC. The lawsuit filed the same week as Trump foe Rosie O'Donnell fills in as guest host for Jimmy Kimmel.
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ROSIE O'DONNELL, JIMMEL KIMMEL LIVE, GUEST HOST: I'm back in the spotlight, all thanks to President Oompa Jay Loompa, who is watching us this evening from inside a catering cart. You know, I couldn't have done it without you, sweetie. You brought me back, just like you did with fascism and the measles.
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CORNISH: OK, joining us now in the Group Chat, Sara Fischer, CNN senior media analyst and senior media reporter at Axios. We were just talking to Brendan Carr the other day.
Now, Disney is saying a couple of things. They're pointing to those comments by Carr. They're also looking at Truth Social posts from Trump, where he was saying things like, quote, they should lose their licenses for unfair coverage of Republicans. And then even a line from a speech.
Here's an example. It's one from last month.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES: NBC and ABC fake news have both said that they would not cover this speech.
Fraud like this should mean a revocation of their licenses.
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CORNISH: Is that enough for a judge?
SARA FISCHER, CNN MEDIA ANALYST: It's going to be a really tough case. So what ABC is doing is they're pointing to a different precedent, legal precedent that was set, where essentially the judge there said that you can't go after a broadcaster and violate its First Amendment rights for speech that should be protected.
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And I think that if you talk to most legal experts, they would agree that the FCC does have the authority to revoke a broadcast license. By the way, not national broadcast licenses. These are licenses for local broadcasters. But they have to do it on grounds that are not going to be violative of the First Amendment. And I think that the ABC folks know they have a strong case here.
CORNISH: It's interesting because obviously after Colbert went off air and then Jimmy Kimmel sort of had this like fight and bounce back with the White House. Is this a sign that media corporations are willing to punch back?
FISCHER: Yes. So ABC settled a lawsuit with the President not too long ago.
CORNISH: Yes.
FISCHER: So it's notable that now --
CORNISH: It's Rosie O'Donnell.
FISCHER: Yes.
CORNISH: It's been a little whiplash for me.
FISCHER: It's notable now that they're changing their tune. OK, so there's a couple reasons for that. One is there's a lot of lawsuits being waged at the FCC right now. And I think that there's a lot of new precedents that are being set. And so, media companies feel very empowered that the legal standards are on their side.
I think two, there is a broader sense that with all the legal fights that the President is facing with media and defamation. I actually just mapped all of them out. He's facing dozens right now. These are going to take time for courts to go through and to litigate. And so, as this is the chart, right?
So over the past two years, take a look at the number of media and defamation cases that the President, his businesses, and his administration are fighting compared to the first decade of his career. CORNISH: Are fighting?
FISCHER: Yes.
CORNISH: I couldn't tell if it was filed or filed.
FISCHER: You know, it's filed. Yes, exactly, it's filed. But the main point here is that they're fighting so many battles. And these battles take a long time to go through in the court system. And if you're a broadcaster, if you're a news company, you have to ask yourself, well, am I going to let myself be bullied for no reason? Or am I going to let myself be bullied while a case plays out?
And ABC is not the only one to make that decision. You've had the AP, which has filed a lawsuit against Trump administration officials. That case is ongoing. The New York Times has filed --
CORNISH: (INAUDIBLE) the New York Times.
FISCHER: -- two.
CORNISH: Yes.
FISCHER: They've been victorious in one. You have a lot of media companies that are willing to fight back and not settle. So, the BBC and the Wall Street Journal. And I think it's because they know that going through this process and defending yourself, even though it's very costly, notice that a lot of the big companies are the ones that can handle --
CORNISH: Yes.
FISCHER: -- these lawsuits. Is the better way to defend yourself in real time than not fighting back and ruining the morale within your newsroom as you're trying to cover this administration?
CORNISH: Or reputation with the public, which I think is another thing that can happen.
FISCHER: That's a tough one. I don't know how much the public is --
CORNISH: Well, CBS is definitely, like, after the whole Colbert thing and 60 Minutes --
FISCHER: Yes.
CORNISH: -- people have a different view.
FISCHER: They do have a different view. I think a lot of these cases, so for example, do the majority of people know that Trump is in an active lawsuit with the Des Moines Register and its parent USA Today?
CORNISH: Oh no.
FISCHER: No.
CORNISH: Yes.
FISCHER: So I think a lot of these are, like, going over the public's head. I think it's really about ensuring you can recruit talent to your newsroom and ensuring the morale in your newsroom.
CORNISH: OK, stay with me because we've got a couple other things I need your expertise on.
I want to turn to this Interim Senator Darline Graham. She's got some cleaning up to do. Last night, the sister of the late Senator Lindsey Graham was actually in a debate with Ralph Norman because there's going to be a special primary runoff next week for that Senate seat in South Carolina.
And then this question happened.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are Taiwan and the South China Sea national security issues for the United States? And if so, why or how?
GRAHAM: I'm just going to be honest here. I'm not on national security. I'm not that informed on national security, so, but I do support the military. My brother was in the Air Force for 33 years, so I will do everything I can to support the military.
My dad was in the Army. I'm not a polished politician up here. National security is not my thing, not my area of expertise, but I do support the military.
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CORNISH: OK, Group Chat is back. Is that enough?
SCHILLING: No. Look, this is --
CORNISH: There were audible gasps at that answer in the debate hall.
SCHILLING: So the big question here has been, is Lindsey Graham's sister qualified to replace him, right? And this was a huge opportunity for her to clarify just how knowledgeable and it looks like she flubbed it. And the problem for that is that Ralph Norman is a very experienced legislator. He knows that state very well, so this bodes well for him. But --
CORNISH: Here's what he said in the spin room after the debate.
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REP. RALPH NORMAN (R-SC): She's running for the United States Senate. It's a six-year term. You need to get -- you need to get fully versed in what issues you're going to be dealing with. This isn't a train, you know, get trained on the job.
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CORNISH: Would it have been as bad if it was another question? Like Lindsey Graham's whole thing was national security.
MANCHESTER: Right.
CORNISH: So for her to be like, I'm not really into that. Like, is that the kind of thing that draws underscores the concern?
MANCHESTER: Yes, I think it certainly does. And look, we've seen President Trump say this. We saw Darline Graham say it last night. She does not want to focus necessarily on foreign policy and national security. She has said she wants to focus on domestic issues.
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That being said, though, she -- there's obviously a military presence and a population in South Carolina. You have, of course, lots of, right now, foreign conflicts, foreign entanglements that are going to be obviously taken up by the United States Senate. And, you know, there is this question of, you know, you need to be prepared. Are you ready?
SEAWRIGHT: Well, speaking of prepared, there was another question in that debate, and she mentioned that South Carolina has a population of 50 million people, when the true population is somewhere around 5.5 million people. In the spin room, when she was asked the question around the foreign policy answer, she said, well, I want to deal with the affordability. Well, Republicans have controlled our state for two decades now.
So if there's an affordability issue, then it's brought to you and sponsored by your neighborhood Republican Party. So I think that being prepared for the job you want is something. And some would argue that she's arguably a DEI-promoted candidate in this situation.
SCHILLING: That's not DEI. I mean, she is a sister. It is maybe nepotism. But I will just say --
SEAWRIGHT: Well, there's some making the argument that she's a woman, so she deserves a seat.
SCHILLING: But we're going to talk about affordability.
SEAWRIGHT: So that's DEI.
SCHILLING: The red states are actually way more affordable, and the polling shows that Democrats are much more concerned about affordability. Democrat voters are much more concerned about --
SEAWRIGHT: Terry, Terry, Terry --
SCHILLING: -- affordability. Because in the blue states, it's --
SEAWRIGHT: Listen to what you're saying.
SCHILLING: Blue states have $7 a gallon gas.
SEAWRIGHT: Listen to what you're saying. SCHILLING: Seven dollars a gallon gas. (INAUDIBLE).
SEAWRIGHT: Chair, Donald Trump and Republicans are in charge of this economy --
SCHILLING: And Democrats will (INAUDIBLE) --
SEAWRIGHT: -- and 70-plus percent of the American people, Democrats and Republicans, recognize we have an affordability crisis.
SCHILLING: There's a reason why red states and red voters --
CORNISH: But listen, there is a way they can sell this issue.
SCHILLING: -- are less concerned about affordability than.
CORNISH: You're talking about how Democrats are going to sell this and have this conversation about affordability. And I've got something for you, OK? Because whether it's edits to Usher's Hey Daddy, or Abdul El- Sayed showing off his biceps and dancing in a tight black tee, or Senator Jon Ossoff being asked about, I'm going to say this, his BDE.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of people have been saying that you've got BDE. You know BDE?
SEN. JON OSSOFF (D-GA): My brother.
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CORNISH: He knows what it is. Democrats have a new strategy for the midterms, giving their candidates the thirst trap treatment, and it seems to be working on someone.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think there's going to be a young, like maybe a Jon Ossoff.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's also hot. I'm sorry.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh my god.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want a hot president.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Take (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I do too.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want a hot president.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: After having a bunch of old geezers as president, to have someone young and hot, it would be revolutionary.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What this country needs to bring us back together as one is a hot president.
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CORNISH: The group chat is back.
SEAWRIGHT: If that's the standard, Republicans will not be elected president in 2028. But --
SCHILLING: I mean, people tell me I look like JD Vance sometimes.
SEAWRIGHT: You run for president?
SCHILLING: No, but he looks like me.
CORNISH: Is this a conversation about BDE, Terry?
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CORNISH: This segment, I'm going to eat along the show is what I'm saying.
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SEAWRIGHT: What I will say is that being well-dressed is a form of good manners.
CORNISH: Yes.
SEAWRIGHT: And so I think how we present ourselves as candidates --
SCHILLING: Look at him. Look at him.
SEAWRIGHT: How we present ourselves as candidates certainly --
CORNISH: But we're not talking --
SEAWRIGHT: -- I think appeals to the eye.
CORNISH: Listen. Absolutely. And (INAUDIBLE) Southern Gentleman, I get. It's muscle tee.
FISCHER: Yes.
CORNISH: You know what I mean? And --
FISCHER: This is sex appeal more than decorum.
CORNISH: Let's talk sex appeal.
FISCHER: So it's very, very different.
CORNISH: In an era when they literally have to fend off sort of like sexual misconduct questions.
FISCHER: Yes.
CORNISH: You know what I mean? Like I don't know if this is really the time to be encouraging men in this way, but tell me more.
FISCHER: I think we understand that we're in the world of algorithm politics and --
CORNISH: Algorithm politics.
FISCHER: Yes, that's where we're at.
CORNISH: I'm so sad now.
FISCHER: And so we have to, you know, think about ways to appeal to the algorithm when you're trying to reach new demographics, new voters, and I think sex selves. And that's why you're seeing a lot of them do this.
CORNISH: Or even just look the part. I feel like before all this, people used to talk about like, oh, the President needs to be tall, right? And everyone talked about how the televised debate changed things --
FISCHER: Yes.
CORNISH: -- when Nixon had to stand next to JFK. Being hot, air quotes, is new. It's just new language for something we've always, not always, since the television age --
FISCHER: Yes.
CORNISH: -- we have embraced.
FISCHER: But the part has shifted. So it used to be that you need to look presidential. Now people want to know that you're authentic to the voter appeal. So in the case of a man who's running for Congress, for example, in Montana, who was like a firefighter, he wants to lean into the fact that he is a strong, buff guy who actually fought those fires. Because his electability is based on the fact that he fought for the people in that regard, right? Graham Platner was, what, a fisherman, a lobster fisherman. You know, the new guy who's replaced him, Troy Jackson, is a logger or something, right?
People want to lean into the role that they had, not the political one. And oftentimes, we're seeing these are like, you know, sort of hands-on jobs that require people to show off how strong they actually are.
CORNISH: Because you're also trying to somehow connect with that voter doing --
FISCHER: Yes.
CORNISH: -- a hands-on job.
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MANCHESTER: And it's something I think that has been pushed, maybe pushed recently, by the conservative right, by MAGA, you know, talking about masculinity, not being afraid to run away from your mask.
CORNISH: Yes. Just like TRT for everybody.
MANCHESTER: Put it out there.
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MANCHESTER: Yes, of course.
SCHILLING: I just want to say there are structural problems though with this argument, right? The average age of Senate Democrats right now is 67. If these young people sweep this year, the average age will drop to 66.
You know, and boomers told us your life doesn't really begin until you're 40, but apparently your Senate term doesn't begin until you're 70.
SEAWRIGHT: Terry, I appreciate you saying that because under the Democratic, we're a big tent. We can have a little country and a little rock and roll, a little hip hop and R&B. So we can have the suit and tie and we can have the no tie at all. I think that's the diversity of our party and people appreciate that.
CORNISH: I actually think this is an interesting evolution from the criticism of respectability politics, which in the black community was this criticism that all of the ways of presenting yourself, we're going to have, we're going to somehow, absolve or allow you to a live racial discrimination, right? Because you are presenting well.
And the pinnacle of that would be Barack Obama, the Harvard, the look, the wife and everything. But it didn't work for Kamala Harris. She presented herself flawlessly and was then criticized for being too polished. I'm going to see who gets to be the thirst trap and who doesn't.
FISCHER: You've got to be authentic to who you are.
CORNISH: Right.
FISCHER: You know, one politician who's so authentic to who she is, is Elizabeth Warren.
CORNISH: Right.
FISCHER: The way she dresses, the way she acts, nobody can say that Elizabeth Warren is trying to be anybody who she's not.
But just let's zoom out for a quick second. It's not just politics. I think about business as well. I think about Lauren Sanchez showing up at the inauguration next to, you know, Jeff Bezos, who also --
CORNISH: He also of the black tee muscles.
FISCHER: Of course.
CORNISH: Yes.
FISCHER: You know, scantily clad. And that was super scandalous at the time, but I think that business moguls are leaning into this as well. It's that the moment has changed and the type of person that you're trying to present yourself, it's not necessarily.
SEAWRIGHT: The moment has changed for some.
FISCHER: Yes.
SEAWRIGHT: Because as a black man, the journey for me is twice as hard, half as much. I can't get away with showing up at a job interview on some spaces, not doing, going above and beyond in order to get the same respect as other people.
So I think there are pockets for this.
CORNISH: Yes, that's also the respectability politics argument.
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SEAWRIGHT: There are pockets for this convenience of this new wave of journalism.
FISCHER: And I think women face that too.
CORNISH: Yes.
FISCHER: Like there's a reason we're talking about a lot of men here right now and we're not talking about a lot of --
CORNISH: Right.
FISCHER: -- women who are scantily clad trying to play into this.
CORNISH: Because then when Nancy Mace had her podcast and all of a sudden she revealed that she had tattoo sleeves and, and people were like, oh my gosh, what is this? Who is it? What's going on? Looking at it became very like sort of scandalous.
FISCHER: Remember when Megyn Kelly wore a sort of strapless thing hosting a debate and it turned into a just political viral nightmare for her?
CORNISH: OK. So what we want is parody for thirst traps, basically for political thirst traps is what we're asking for. A protected class, the thirst trap.
What's in your Group Chat, this side of the table?
FISCHER: Madonna's making a huge comeback right now.
CORNISH: Madonna at the VMAs every decade.
FISCHER: Eleven noms.
CORNISH: Her duty (ph).
FISCHER: Her best ever. She is -- she came out with a new album. It's gotten rave reviews --
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FISCHER: -- from Pitchfork. And she's showing up with Sabrina Carpenter. I mean, she's 68 years old. I can only hope, Audie, that that's how --
CORNISH: Thirst trap.
FISCHER: Yes, thirst trap.
CORNISH: The original thirst trap.
FISCHER: Yes, the original.
CORNISH: OK.
MANCHESTER: Look, I'm 33. I have a lot of friends in group chats who are women who are considering motherhood, who are mothers, who are thinking about it. Rough week, but I think the Lindsay Clancy trial, you know, conspiracy theories, all of that aside, it has raised a lot of awareness and sparked conversation about maternal mental health, which I think is very useful for women considering this next step or going through this.
CORNISH: Yes. OK.
SCHILLING: Look, growing up, there was this famous Staples commercial and they played the Christmas music. It's the most wonderful time of the year. It's the dad loading up the cart with all the back to school supplies.
And it's back to school week in the Schilling household. My daughter Reagan is starting a new school today. And I just have to say, this summer flew by. It was way short.
CORNISH: It was.
SCHILLING: The kids didn't get out until like mid-June. I did the numbers. It's like 67 days. And I just wish we could get back to that my summers. When we had summers growing up, I feel like we had the full three months of summer and we just keep seeing the schools and work just taking over our family lives. And it's a real tragedy.
CORNISH: I love that. Thank you.
SEAWRIGHT: People are afraid to eat with all the recalls --
CORNISH: OK.
SEAWRIGHT: -- with all the things that are happening, because this administration has prioritized getting rid of food inspections and firing staff at the FDA. And so if all goes well in November -- CORNISH: You'll be eating lettuce.
SEAWRIGHT: -- we may be able to eat again in two years.
CORNISH: In two years.
SCHILLING: And I haven't stopped eating Taco Bell, by the way, I'm still going to --
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CORNSIH: Nothing wrong with that.
OK, you guys, thank you for being here on a Friday. And thank you to you two for always being able to (INAUDIBLE) --
SEAWRIGHT: Except it's Wednesday.
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CORNISH: Oh my God.
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CORNISH: It's not Friday.
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SEAWRIGHT: But happy Friday in advance.
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FISCHER: Yes, we're talking to Donna (ph) this weekend.
CORNISH: Oh my gosh, I was really winding up. I'm like, have a good Saturday, all the things. No, it's Wednesday. It's hump day. We're going to get through it.
Thank you for watching with us. We have more headlines, and specifically more primary results in states like Florida and Alaska, so stay with us. The headlines are next.