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Islamist Group Claims Responsibility for Attacks; Who is Boko Haram?; Market Reaction to Jobs Numbers; Women With Faulty Implants Concerned Despite British Government Not Recommending Removal; 300,000 Women in 65 Countries Affected; Bioethicist Discusses Responsibility for Faulty Implants; Exclusive Interview With Margaret Thatcher's Official Photographer; History of Kodak; Viewers Send Kodak Moments to CNN; Parting Shots of 17 Countries in 343 Days
Aired January 06, 2012 - 16:00 ET
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MAX FOSTER, CNN INTERNATIONAL HOST: Tonight, as Boko Haram claims yet another massacre in Nigeria, we'll show you the exclusive video of the group in action and ask whether Africa's most populous country is descending into civil war.
Live from London, I'm Max Foster.
Also tonight, Britain's government says it will pay to remove thousands of faulty breast implants.
But should it be down to the patient to pick up the bill?
And --
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I guess it would be a vision that the IRA would have loved to have seen of the prime minister.
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FOSTER: The grim realization sets in after surviving a bomb blast that others didn't -- just one of the long lost images of Margaret Thatcher, exclusively revealed to us by her former official photographer.
First tonight, a shadowy Islamist group in Nigeria says it's carrying out a threat to target Christians, claiming responsibility for two deadly attacks. A spokesman for Boko Haram says its gunmen opened fire on worshippers in the city of Gombe and later killed Christians in another town as they mourned the death of a friend. All told, some two dozen people were killed. The Boko Haram spokesman says the attacks make a mockery of the government's attempts to stop sectarian violence by declaring a limited state of emergency.
Boko Haram is blamed for increasingly deadly attacks over the past few months. On Sunday, it upped the stakes, issuing a dramatic ultimatum for all Christians to leave Nigeria's Muslim majority north. That deadline expired a few days ago.
CNN's Vladimir Duthiers is following developments from Lagos for -- for us tonight -- Vladimir, a series of very serious attacks.
VLADIMIR DUTHIERS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Max.
Violence has been growing, as you said, in Nigeria, ever since bombings that occurred on Christmas Day in Nigeria, in the north of Nigeria that left dozens of people dead. This morning again, more violence in the northeastern part of the country. We're told at least 11 people were killed when gunmen stormed into a -- into a place where people were meeting to mourn the loss of a friend who had passed away earlier, killing 11 people. And as you said, also, there was more violence today before where people -- where Boko Haram was accused of storming a church and -- and killing at least eight people there.
Police are saying again that they believe that Boko Haram was responsible for the killings this morning. We did ask them how they were so sure about that, because it's, at this point, Boko Haram is still sort of a loose coalition of -- of -- of people spread out across the northern - - the northern part of the country.
But they said that in recent days, even after the ultimatum that you mentioned, Muslims have been threatening Christians in the area. And so they're pretty confident in saying that they think Boko Haram is responsible for this -- this assault again this morning at around 11:30 -- Max.
FOSTER: Vladimir Duthiers, thank you very much, indeed, for joining us from Lagos with that.
Now, Nigerian president, Goodluck Jonathan, says Boko Haram started as a harmless group and eventually grew cancerous. It is believed to be a loose organization, as Vladimir was saying, of factions bound together by the name that means "Western education is a sin."
CNN's Nima Elbagir has more now on Boko Haram.
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NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dimakakos (ph) in Northern Nigeria, the site of coordinated attacks on Christmas Day by the homegrown Islamist militant group, Boko Haram. Sandbags now line the near empty streets, as the town braces itself for more.
Across Nigeria's north, scenes like these are becoming all too common. The militant group has promised violence against any Christians who remain in the predominantly Muslim region. It's also taking aim at the country's government, which the group claims is illegitimate.
The north has been under Sharia law since 1999, but Boko Haram say that's not good enough. They want a full Islamic state.
Who exactly are Boko Haram?
Other than their demand for religious purity, very little is known about them. This exclusive footage obtained by CNN is one of the few records of the group in action. Their ultra strict teachings, though, seem to have become a lightning rod for the frustrations in Nigeria's poorer northern regions. The group's best recruitment tool seems to be the northerners' sense marginalization.
Shehu Sani, from the Civil Rights Congress of Nigeria, is one of the few people to have openly met with Boko Haram during now stalled peace talks.
SHEHU SANI, CIVIL RIGHTS CONGRESS OF NIGERIA: The organization is -- appeals to many people in their hundreds of thousands because of their strong opposition to the corruption by the governors and irresponsibility of leadership in Nigeria over the years. There is so much fear and apprehension. And there is no doubt about the insurgency is creating a feeling of failure on the side of the state and the government to protect its own citizens.
ELBAGIR: Violence exploded across Northern Nigeria after national elections in April were considered by many in the north to have been rigged. The Nigerian government deployed the military and said the security situation was under control, but it wasn't.
In August, Boko Haram carried out one of the deadliest attacks against the U.N. in many years -- a suicide bombing that killed 24 people at the U.N. headquarters in the capital, Abuja. Since then, attacks have continued almost weekly and displaced people continue to flee cities and towns across the north.
But it's not just here that people are nervous. Nigerians throughout the country are anxiously hoping that the violence doesn't spread any further.
Nima Elbagir, CNN, London.
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FOSTER: The national security adviser to Nigeria's president says Boko Haram must be destroyed in its early stages, arguing it has a bigger global mission. He's urging the United States to help Nigeria create a counter-terrorism strategy.
Let's get some thoughts now from Richard Joseph.
He's a senior fellow at the Brookings Institute.
He's also a professor at Northwestern University who's written extensively about Nigeria.
And on the face of it, it seems as though there are parallels, in ideology, at least, with al Qaeda.
Are they -- are the -- are the groups linked?
Is there a similar structure?
RICHARD JOSEPH, PROFESSOR, NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY: Yes. There are similarities, just as there is the name al Qaeda, which has become a sort of global franchise. And you can have groups emerging and claiming to be affiliated to al Qaeda.
Similarly, you have had that happening in Nigeria, but also, Boko Haram, it's -- it's really a name. We really don't know very much about it. There's obviously a jihadist element to it. There's also criminal elements to it. And then there are some concerns about who is actually funding and actually, you know, promoting this particular kind of activity.
So there's a lot of confusion. But we do know that there is this very strong jihadist element. And that jihadist element, of course, we know worldwide, but has roots in Nigeria itself.
FOSTER: This sort of violence isn't new in Nigeria, but it seems to be coming together in some way.
JOSEPH: It is.
FOSTER: The attacks seem to be escalating and the group that we're talking about here seems to be more organized, with a more official voice.
JOSEPH: Well, you do have an official voice. And again, there is some concern about who is this person who is actually speaking and why they have not been able to track him down.
But one of these things you mention, it is operating over quite an area in Nigeria. This is quite, you know, several states in Nigeria, some distances. So there is a degree of organization that's there.
But then the question has to be, you know, what is the degree of coordination that's actually occurring?
So, again, a lot of confusion here, but one, of course -- one thing that's very clear is that it really took a turn for the worst on Christmas Day, with the bombing of that church, now the direct attacks on Christians. And in the context of Nigeria, that issue of regionalism and sectarianism is something greatly to be feared. I mean it's something, obviously, that the people involved are deliberately trying to provoke.
FOSTER: And those splits you were describing in Nigeria, if -- if the groups can somehow capitalize on that, they could effectively spark a civil war, couldn't they?
JOSEPH: Well, I think we have to be a little careful about the name - - about talking about civil war in Nigeria, especially given Nigeria's experience with the 1967-70 war. Nigeria has always been able to pull back from that.
But we have to bear in mind, there's a great deal of dissention and dissatisfaction in Nigeria with the process that's now taking place over the removal of the oil subsidy, with protests taking place in a number of major cities. There's a national strike that's now called by the major trade unions for Monday.
And so that is also going to be drawn on the great dissatisfaction with just a deep corruption, just a failure of performance of government. And now -- so these things are happening simultaneously. And, of course, it's -- it's really puzzling as to why it is that the president of Nigeria will simultaneously announce a state of emergency in parts of the country, which is a major development in any country, and also the removal of an oil subsidy that has been there for almost four decades.
To do that simultaneously, I mean, quite frankly, just doesn't make any sense.
FOSTER: Professor Joseph, thank you very much, indeed, for joining us.
As if sectarian problems weren't enough, Nigeria is also rocked by mass demonstrations against soaring fuel prices. Union leaders are now calling for nationwide strikes on Monday if the government won't reverse a decision to end a fuel subsidy.
That decision led the price of a liter of petrol to more than double virtually overnight.
You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD live from London.
Still to come, the best of enemies -- the U.S. Navy comes to the rescue of 13 Iranians held captive by pirates in the Persian Gulf. Footage showing how the mission unfolded next.
Coming up, one boxer questions the validity of his defeat last month. Pedro Pinto we'll have more on a fascinating topic.
And then, a TV exclusive --
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FOSTER: A rare portrite -- portrait of "The Iron Lady" and her shocked resignation -- one of Britain's most famous photographers gives us an exclusive insight.
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FOSTER: You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD on CNN, the world's news leader.
Welcome back to you.
Now, the British government has decided not to recommend routine removal of faulty breast implants manufactured by a French company that's now gone out of business. The government did not say -- or did say it -- or -- or did say it would provide free consultations for women who had the implants put in by the National Health Service and it would remove them for free, if necessary. It also encouraged private doctors to do the same.
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ANDREW LANSLEY, BRITISH HEALTH SECRETARY: We are not recommending the removal of these implants because -- and they -- I think, to the extent, should understand that there isn't any specific safety concern been identified of either toxic effects, or, certainly, of any link to cancer.
So what is rather important is not to exaggerate the reasons to be worried. But if women are worried, then we will support them.
Now, we expect -- I expect -- and the expert group want to see provide providers offer that same standard of care, because the NHS is always there to support women, as we do other patients, on the basis of we will take responsibility for meeting their clinical need if no one else will do so.
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FOSTER: In about 15 minutes, we're going to meet a British woman who has those implants and wants them removed. But it's -- it is worried, actually, that it may already be too late for her.
Here's a look at some other stories connecting our world tonight.
And a suicide bombing in Syria is raising fears that the months old uprising could be escalating to a new level of conflict. Authorities say at least 26 people were killed in the attack in Damascus today. It is the second suicide bombing in the capital in two weeks. The government blames terrorists promising to respond with an iron fist, whilst opposition activists say the regime itself is responsible.
At least three explosions hit the Iraqi capital of Baghdad on Friday, as the nation's Army Day Parade was taking place. Rockets landed close to the city's Green Zone, home to the U.S. Embassy and several Iraqi government offices. There were no reports of casualties. The attacks come after dozens of people died in -- on Thursday in bombings thought to be targeted Shiite Muslims.
The U.S. Department of Labor released some encouraging numbers today, with 200,000 jobs added in December. The unemployment rate fell to 8.5 percent, its lowest level in nearly three years.
CNN's Alison Kosik has been gauging market reaction and joins us live from the New York Stock Exchange.
Well, well, well -- Alison.
ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Max.
You know, investors seem to be a little hard to impress today. So stocks finished mixed on this Friday.
Let's get right to the closing numbers. The Dow dropped 55 points, closing at 12359. The NASDAQ managed to finish higher, but the S&P 500 lost .25 of 1 percent.
Those payroll numbers that you mentioned, Max, were generally better than expected, but as the hiring improved, those expectations, they also grow. Economists tell me that the bar has been raised as we head into 2012, so we would have needed a real blowout number to spark a rally Friday.
The 200,000 number for new jobs was good and traders told me that that likely prevented a big sell-off, because there's still a lot of concern about the problems in Europe and the impact they could have here.
So here we are ending with a mixed finish on this Friday.
What investors are looking for is not one good number, per se, but a solid streak of big gains, say, anywhere from 200,000 to 400,000 over a three to six month period, meaning 200 to 400 jobs added. Then we're talking about a strong jobs recovery and something that would excite investors.
One analogy that I've been using, Max, today, is that the U.S. economy has kind of taken off the training wheels. But it's not quite yet in the fast lane. So going forward, expect to see more volatility in the stock market -- Max.
FOSTER: Alison, thank you so much.
Now, a U.S. Navy ship has rescued 13 Iranian sailors from pirates in the Arabian Sea. Take a look at this. U.S. Navy footage showing the group of pirates surrendering with their hands up. A Navy team boarded a vessel and arrested 15 men who had been holding the Iranian crew for the last two months.
New Zealand media are reporting that a hot air balloon has crashed near Wellington, killing every on board. According to reports, 11 people were on board the balloon, which was on a scenic flight near the town of Carterton.
Turkey's former top military commander is under arrest on a charge he plotted to overthrow the government. General Ilker Basbug spent Thursday night in prison after a civilian court indicted him. He is the highest ranking officer accused in what the government says was a broad conspiracy.
A U.S. teenager who was mistakenly deported to Colombia is on her way back home. A -- well after running away in April last year, Jakadrien Turner was arrested for shoplifting. And she gave police a fake name, claiming to be Tika Cortez from Colombia. Turner kept up the false identity and without any identification, managed to convince the U.S. immigration system and Colombian authorities that's who she was. Her family, who has been looking for her ever since, is planning to file lawsuits against the agencies involved in deporting her.
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LORENE TURNER, MISSING TEEN'S GRANDMOTHER: I just don't understand how it could happen. It's someone made a goof and I think it's within ICE or someone. They made -- they goofed up.
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FOSTER: Well, you could say that.
Coming up, Thierry Henry returns to Arsenal looking to add another chapter in his illustrious career with the Gunners. Pedro Pinto has that and more in sports.
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FOSTER: You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD live from London.
Welcome back.
I'm Max Foster.
Now, boxer Amir Khan has accused an unknown man of interfering with the judges during his December defeat to Lamont Peterson. Now Khan lost both his WBA and IBF light welterweight titles to the American. Cameras caught the man in question talking to the judges during the fight. A senior World Boxing Association official confessed on Friday that he does not know the identity of the man and has called for a rematch.
Now, Pedro is here with more.
I guess the problem with this story is that you're -- we're effectively -- or he's effectively accusing the judges of being affected by this random man.
PEDRO PINTO, CNN "WORLD SPORT" ANCHOR: Exactly. The pictures are actually quite crazy and it's -- it's unfortunate that -- that we don't have access to them. It's -- it's a random man who just sits next to one of the judges -- there are three of them in this fight. And he starts pointing at the score card. And there seems to be a conversation between them while the fight is going on.
Now, the discrepancy appears to have happened in the seventh round, but was initially given to Khan, but was then changed. Then you see the amendment made on the scorecard was then changed to give it to Peterson. As a result, Lamont Peterson won the bout and he won those two titles, the WBA and the IBF titles.
Now, the latest we've heard is that the -- the -- the head of the World Boxing Association, Gilberto Mendoza, has called for a rematch. Everybody is really surprised --
FOSTER: But shouldn't they investigate first?
PINTO: Well, everybody is really surprised that these pictures are coming out. I guess they hadn't noticed before that this man was there. Apparently he was celebrating in the ring with Peterson after the fight ended.
So everybody was like, who is this guy?
How did he get in to be right next to one of the judges?
And -- and everybody is trying to react as soon as they can to make it as fair as they can.
FOSTER: OK, Thierry Henry, he's back with the Gunners, right?
PINTO: He is. He spent eight successful seasons there. He's the club's all time leading scorer. And he's just signed a two month loan deal from the New York Red Bulls. What happens is that the calendar in major league soccer in the United States is different than the one in Europe. So they're in their off season over there. A few players then come over to Europe to -- to try to stay in shape and to also continue to -- to play professional football. That's what's happened, for example, with Landon Donovan at Everton. And now, oh, he has a really great story. Life has come full circle for him. This is his spiritual home, London. He's said it many times before. And I believe we can hear him say why he just couldn't say no to the Gunners when the opportunity came up.
We don't have those --
FOSTER: But they can hear it on "WORLD SPORT."
PINTO: They can.
FOSTER: In an hour.
PINTO: Yes.
FOSTER: I want to ask you, before we go, about other people coming to London, because there's going to be a few here this summer watching the Olympics.
PINTO: Yes.
FOSTER: But are they going to get the tickets?
PINTO: You know, it -- it's a funny story, because, for the first time on Friday, fans who have tickets could try to exchange them for better ones, could try to resell them on -- on the -- the local organizing committee's Web sites.
But there were so many people who tried to do that, that the Web site crashed.
So there have been too many issues with the Olympics as far as organization --
FOSTER: You keep saying that, but the --
PINTO: -- infrastructure --
FOSTER: -- every time you come on with ticketing problems.
PINTO: Yes, well, but this ticketing issue, I mean let's --
FOSTER: Human error --
PINTO: -- (INAUDIBLE).
FOSTER: -- computer error.
PINTO: Yes, it's minor.
FOSTER: (INAUDIBLE).
PINTO: It's just back to back days. I mean other --
FOSTER: OK.
PINTO: -- there -- there was that --
FOSTER: They'll sort it out.
PINTO: -- that synchronized swimming --
FOSTER: Yes.
PINTO: -- fiasco where they -- they sold 10,000 --
FOSTER: You blamed the (INAUDIBLE) of that?
PINTO: Are you going to let me talk?
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PINTO: They had 10,000 tickets that they sold that didn't exist. And now, the latest is that the Web site crashed.
OK, I'm done.
FOSTER: OK.
Pedro, thank you very much.
If there's another ticketing story, you have to accept there's a problem.
PINTO: Yes. There's problems with ticketing. That's it.
OK.
FOSTER: Still to come on CONNECT THE WORLD, the British government decides how to handle more than 40,000 women with substandard breast implants. We'll speak to one of them who fears it may already be too late for her.
Also tonight --
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FOSTER: Which world leader put Margaret Thatcher on edge?
Stay with us for the story behind the pictures, as we reveal never before seen images of the former British leader.
And if you ever wanted to go around the world but never had time to, coming up, the photographer who can take you on the journey of a lifetime in just 290 seconds.
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FOSTER: You are watching CONNECT THE WORLD on CNN.
Time for a check of the world headlines.
The opposition and the Syrian government are blaming one another for a deadly suicide bombing in Damascus. At least 26 people were killed. The Syrian government warns anyone who tries to disrupt security that it will strike back with an iron fist.
The opposition and the Syrian government are blaming one another for a deadly suicide bombing in Damascus. At least 26 people were killed. The Syrian government warns anyone who tries to disrupt security that it will strike back with an iron fist.
An Islamic militant group in Nigeria is claiming responsibility for a new wave of violence targeting Christians. Police say at least 25 people were killed in two separate attacks.
A positive employment report in the United States. The economy gained 200,000 jobs in December, 50,000 more than expected. Unemployment fell to 8.5 percent for the year, 1.6 million jobs were added.
New Zealand media are reporting that a hot air balloon has crashed killing everyone onboard. According to the report, 11 passengers and crew were in the hot air balloon on a scenic flight outside Wellington near Carterton.
The British government says there is not enough evidence for it to recommend removal of faulty breast implants by the French company PIP. The implants were found to contain industrial-grade silicon, which is not intended for human use.
Even though the British government is not recommending those implants be removed, they are still willing to pay for removal in some circumstances. That comes as welcome news to many women worried that their implants may be dangerous or already leaking. Here is Atika Shubert.
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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Rowena MacIntosh shows us the certificate from her breast enlargement surgery in 2009.
ROWENA MACINTOSH, PIP IMPLANT PATIENT: That's his name. That's the manufacturers.
SHUBERT: PIP, the French implants made of industrial-grade silicon, reportedly prone to leaks and ruptures.
MACINTOSH: It's like a ticking time bomb inside me. Until somebody says you can have them taken out and put back in again, I'm going to be worried.
SHUBERT: Britain's National Health Service won't pay for cosmetic surgery, so 95 percent of breast enlargement surgeries are private. MacIntosh paid almost $8,000 for implants like these. To assure her, she says, the surgeon at a private clinic split open an implant to reveal the solid silicon inside, which looked, in her words, like a jelly candy.
MACINTOSH: See, when I was told that there was absolutely no chance of this breast implant leaking because of the fact that it had this jelly baby effect, if you like, that was -- pretty much 50 percent of the decision, because it felt safe, and it was guaranteed for 25 years.
SHUBERT (on camera): Now, British medical authorities have put out a statement today basically saying that they do not know the exact rupture rate for PIP implants. However, of those implants that they have tested, there has been no risk of dangerous toxins.
But there is very little data that they have, and they do say they cannot rule out the possibility that some are toxic. Here's what Britain's Health Secretary, Andrew Lansley, had to say.
ANDREW LANSLEY, BRITISH HEALTH SECRETARY: We're not recommending the removal of these implants because they -- I think, to an extent, should understand that there isn't any specific safety concern been identified of either toxic effects or, certainly, of any link to cancer.
We expect -- I expect, and the expert group want to see private providers offer that same standard of care, because the NHS is always there to support women, as we do other patients, on the basis of we will take responsibility for meeting their clinical need if no one else will do so.
SHUBERT (voice-over): MacIntosh says she now has a hard mass in one breast that she fears may be silicon. She says the clinic has refused to pay for a scan, removal, or replacement of the implants. The clinic refused to comment to CNN, citing privacy concerns.
MACINTOSH: When you go to doctor, you don't say, "Who makes your medicine?" You just assume that it's going to be safe.
SHUBERT: Trust that has clearly eroded. MacIntosh doesn't regret taking the decision to get implants, but she does regret choosing the clinic that provided them.
Whatever the government's guidance, she says she wants the implants removed and replaced as soon as possible.
Atika Shubert, CNN, London.
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FOSTER: Well, Rowena is just one of around 300,000 women in 65 different countries who have these substandard breast implants. Only around 10 percent are in France, where the government is paying for women to have them removed, but it will only pay for replacement implants for women who had them after a mastectomy.
Now, Venezuela's health minister says she doesn't know how many women in that country have these implants because many of them were imported illegally. But still, the government is offering free removal for anyone.
Brazil's health ministry says around 24,000 implants were sold there, and the government is encouraging women with the implants to get checked by their doctors.
More than 13,000 women in Argentina have the implants, and now 50 of them are threatening to sue their plastic surgeons if they don't get free replacements.
And in Australia, where some 4500 women have had the implants, an expert panel says there's no evidence yet to suggest they have a higher rupture rate.
One country that never approved the implants is the United States. But the countries that did approve them, how much responsibility does the government bear, and how much falls to the consumer who chose to have them put in in the first place.
I want to discuss that now with Arthur Caplan who is a Bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania. He joins me, now, live from Philadelphia. Thank you so much for joining us, professor.
First of all, I presume the first group that should be responsible here is the company that produced the faulty products, so they should pay.
ARTHUR CAPLAN, BIOETHICIST, UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA: Absolutely. The company is the number one responsible party. They made the faulty product, they used substandard materials, they ought to be paying for these replacements.
But as far as I know, PIP, this French company, is broke. There isn't much money there. And if you had to wait for them to come up with the money after lawsuits, most of the women who'd gotten them would die of natural causes by old age.
FOSTER: If they have gone insolvent, there should have been insurance, right? That's the problem end of the industry.
CAPLAN: That is a problem in the industry. So, it seems to me, for elective procedures, whether you're going to have someone use something to take wrinkles out of your face or enhance your breasts, it would make sense to make part of the charge for this some kind of coverage or insurance if things go wrong, if there turn out to be adverse events.
National health systems don't want to pay for cosmetic, purely elective cosmetic procedures. You're going to be stuck if something does turn out to be fraudulent or just misused, and I think instead of turning to lawyers, it might make better sense to build some insurance into this system so that people stuck in these kinds of circumstances would have coverage.
FOSTER: We're speaking with the benefit of hindsight, but as you say, the company's not solvent anymore, and there wasn't any insurance, so it is left with the public health system, as you say.
We asked some people what they think on our Facebook page, and there seem to be two main reactions here. One viewer says it's not the government's place to regulate cosmetic surgery, but another says the government has a major role to ensure a high standard in all medical treatments. Who's right?
CAPLAN: If it's going in your body, it's a pill, it's a medical device, it should be regulated by the government. The consumer can't tell what's safe, what isn't safe, what's made according to good manufacturing processes. Even the doctors are at something of a disadvantage if the company is crooked.
I think you have to have government watching over anything that people put into their bodies for a medical or a health purpose. So, I don't buy the idea that it's just buyer beware.
FOSTER: Let's talk about ethics, because that's your specialism here. And if you look around the world, there seem to be very different ethics around the world, because each government is handling it entirely differently. So, what's your view? I know it's an opinion, but what's your view? Who's got it right?
CAPLAN: Yes, great -- it's fascinating to see these differences. I think, first of all, let's keep in mind, if these things turn out to be nasty and do cause health problems, the bill for that's going to be big, and every government that has a nationalized system is going to pay, so it may be smarter just on prudential grounds to take them out now, avoiding what could be a huge financial disaster down the road.
That said, if you had something done electively just to make bigger breasts, I think you might pay a bit of the cost. But still, in a public health crisis like this, I think those governments that are stepping in, France, Colombia, saying "We'll take them out" are doing the right thing.
If you had it for restoration because you had breast cancer, then absolutely you should have help from the public system.
On the whole, I think it makes more sense ethically, it makes more sense in terms of economic risk, to get these things out at public expense.
FOSTER: Professor Caplan, thank you very much, indeed, for joining us.
Well, the scandal may now be widening. A French newspaper is reporting that the same company that made the faulty implants for women have used the same hazardous material to make chest and perhaps testicular implants for men.
French health authorities say all of those implants were exported to other countries, but they didn't say which ones. We will stay on top of this story for you here on CONNECT THE WORLD.
You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD. Still to come, the softer side of the Iron Lady. Never before seen --
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JASON FRASER, PHOTOGRAPHER: She was very coquettish around Reagan. She -- when he was due to arrive, she was peaking out of the window.
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FOSTER: Never before seen pictures and untold stories from the photographer who captured some of the more intimate images of Margaret Thatcher.
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MERYL STREEP AS MARGARET THATCHER, "THE IRON LADY": I may be persuaded to surrender the hat. The pearls, however, are absolutely non- negotiable.
That's the tone that we want to strike.
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FOSTER: The film that should have been delayed. That's what British prime minister David Cameron suggested today as he questioned the decision to make "The Iron Lady" whilst Margaret Thatcher is still alive.
"The Iron Lady" is proving almost as controversial of a film as its central character. The former British prime minister was, of course, loved by some, but loathed by many others. Tonight, in a television exclusive, we bring you a very different portrait of Margaret Thatcher, courtesy of photographer Jason Fraser.
The famous snapper hasn't given an interview since he was diagnosed four years ago with the rare illness Wegener's granulomatosis, but he sat down with Becky after recovering lost images of Thatcher that haven't been published until now.
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Iconic snapshots both staged and stolen of some of the world's most famous, most powerful, most notorious.
British photographer Jason Fraser is better known for Princess Diana and for capturing this, the first picture in 20 years of Carlos the Jackal just days before the fugitive's arrest.
But now, it's some of his earliest images that are making headlines. Images of Margaret Thatcher, long lost and intimate. He captured them during six years as her official photographer, a job he was recruited to do aged just 16.
FRASER: I think that was the amazing thing about Thatcher, is that you -- she liked young people. She liked young people around her. And you -- she liked that buzz of young people.
And when I took some photographs and I gave them the pictures that I printed up that night in my mother's pictures and sent in the pictures, I had a phone call, and they said if you want to come down here, we like the pictures, you can perhaps take some more.
So, as I arrived, Dennis Thatcher was leaving. And I thought, right, well, here's my first picture of the Thatchers. I'm going to do this shot, I'm going to get something a bit different of him. And he said, "What picture do you want?"
And I said, "Well, can you waggle your umbrella at me?"
And he said, "What, like this?" and just did it the once. He said, "If you didn't get it, you're too slow.
I thought, oh God. It was non digital, so you didn't know if you had the shot. I did, and I think it says something about his personality.
ANDERSON: Fraser learned much about the Thatchers traveling with them on official visits and election campaigns. It was at these events he captured images that reveal a very different side to the Iron Lady.
FRASER: And the picture with Margaret Thatcher's fist, which I didn't even realize that I had gotten it, I'd forgotten that I'd taken it, and I rediscovered it about six weeks ago.
And she was waiting. It was the G-7 summit, and she was waiting for the French president to walk in. And I looked at her hand, I thought, well, I'll just take a picture of her rings. As I was doing it, I heard footsteps as he was about to come through, and I saw her hand just clenched. And it stayed clenched for about three seconds.
Now, whether or not she knew that I was just taking a picture of her hand and so deliberately did that, I don't know. But I think -- I mean, it just went into a fist. I was standing 15 feet away.
But equally, just before that, there she is, teasing the flowers and making sure that they're OK for Ronald Reagan, who's about to walk into the room.
She was very coquettish around Reagan. She -- when he was due to arrive, she was peeking out of the window behind the curtain and looking for him again. And I photographed her doing that. And when she saw him, she lit up. But it's because they were both, I think, looking like politicians of conviction rather than just policies.
ANDERSON (on camera): What was her relationship with Mitterrand like?
FRASER: Her relationship with Mitterrand was -- it was actually quite good, despite all. She respected him. She -- she played him well. She used all of her feminine guile with him. He admired her. He found her terribly frustrating.
Separately, I was trying -- I traveled with the French president, and he was looking at a newspaper article, and it had Margaret Thatcher in it, and he just said, "Je n'ai pas plus. Je n'ai pas plus. Qu'est-ce qu'on vont faire avec cette femme?" "I can't take it anymore, I've got to give her -- what are we going to do with this woman?"
ANDERSON: This was the French president?
FRASER: And because I'd just been speaking in English, because he didn't assume that I might catch on to what he was saying, I thought wow. And I photographed him once. Just -- he couldn't take it anymore. His hands went up into the air.
And she was sitting there, she was just -- she was relentless. She wore people down, I think, rather than broke them down. She wore the unions down. She did -- it was a long ball game for her.
ANDERSON: Did she have an Achilles heel?
FRASER: Her family. I think. Achilles heel always implies a weakness, a soft spot for something. Her family. The relationship that she had with Dennis was a -- he was a very shrewd man. I can tell you that when she resigned after having won three general elections, the biggest contributing factor was Dennis.
Dennis told her that he did not want to see her being "kicked in" -- those were his words -- anymore. He -- and he told her that he felt that the party was over.
And she -- as I say, she did listen to him. She -- he was absolutely everything to her. That's my perception. That he was absolutely everything.
ANDERSON (voice-over): Fraser was also there in 1984 when the IRA bombed the Conservative Party conference in Brighton, killing five people. Thatcher was the target and narrowly escaped injury.
FRASER: I had just heard from a police officer that this politician's wife was dead. And I heard this, and it then clicked that she had just been told the same thing about five minutes earlier, ten minutes earlier. Because I watched her physically stoop.
And she -- she sort of -- she didn't crumble, but she was holding herself back from crumbling. And I really had to -- it was very quiet, you could hear a pin drop. She was just collecting her thoughts, really. She hadn't had time to put her makeup on or anything, maybe she'd -- you know.
And her face was -- was very drawn. She looked devastated. Absolutely devastated. And until now, it's a picture that I hadn't published. It -- I guess it would have been a picture that the IRA would have loved to have seen the prime minister.
ANDERSON (on camera): You know her better than most. You spent so much time with her. Tell me and our viewers something we don't know about her.
FRASER: Something you don't know about Margaret Thatcher. Picture the scene, the Ritz Hotel in London and a pianist playing in the corner. It's about 1:00.
And Bill Clinton is sitting in one room. This is after -- this is only five, six years ago. Bill Clinton is sitting there, waiting for his lunch companion. There's some security officers around. And one of them looks toward the pianist and nods, at which point, the pianist, switches from what she's playing into a piece of music, which I didn't recognize, but I realized that there was something very important.
And it was "A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square." And it's a song that Margaret Thatcher first danced with Dennis Thatcher to.
And she came in and she smiled at the pianist and walked over as she was playing it. And then stood behind the piano, and then almost conducted it gently and welled up. And then sang the words to go with it. She did.
She sang quietly, but she went along with the whole thing and stood there for about two minutes. And then it stopped, and she just said "Thank you" again. And now, she had apparently done this at least half a dozen times.
By then, once I've got my jaw back up off the floor, I didn't take a photograph of it as I can see you're indicating --
ANDERSON: No.
FRASER: I mean, where do you go with it? You'd need sound, you'd need everything, and I think -- and it wasn't one of those -- it was a very, very moving moment. Her husband had died not that long before, and she was just reminiscing.
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ANDERSON (voice-over): The Iron Lady, not so unmovable after all.
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FOSTER: We're learning so much about her, aren't we, this week? Well, Becky, there, with that exclusive television interview with photographer Jason Fraser. He'll be revealing more photos, more insights in a book coming out later this year. You can also catch Becky's interview with Jason on cnn.com.
Now, you are watching CONNECT THE WORLD. When we come back, Kodak has been helping us record our lives for over a century, but the company's share price isn't a pretty picture. Next, a look at an iconic brand.
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FOSTER: Now, Kodak looks set to fall victim to the digital revolution it helped create. The company's teetering on the brink of bankruptcy with a share price falling 90 percent in the last year. Here's a look back at how the iconic company developed.
Very well.
Back in the -- in 1888, actually, the founder, George Eastman, brought the first simple camera to the world's consumers with the slogan, "You press the button, we do the rest."
Flash ahead to the 1930s when Kodak would color the world of amateur photography, introducing Kodachrome film, as they called it, in 1935.
By 1962, Kodak was a billion-dollar company with more than 75,000 employees worldwide. And the 1970s saw the first pocket-sized camera, "Instamatic" camera, they called it.
And in 1987, Kodak changed its logo for the very first time in 30 years and brought us the first disposable camera, the Kodak Fling. And in recent years, really, the company's focused on growing its digital technology.
Now, over the years, the company -- the, well, saying "Kodak Moment" has become a popular synonym for a priceless memory captured by a photo. Here at CNN, we're asking you to send us your Kodak Moments.
iReporter Linda Woodward, for example, sent us this shot of her daughter's traditional Jewish wedding in Illinois in 1994. It's special, she says, because both of them look so happy and radiant.
This photograph is from 1958. It's of Kathi Cordson (ph), one of our iReporters pictured on the left there, and her siblings taken at her family's home in Gardena, California.
Do you have a memorable Kodak moment? You can share it with CNN's iReport if you have. Check out the assignment at iReport.com -- iReport, yes, cnn.com.
Now, in tonight's Parting Shots, a look at how far photography has come over the last century. Kien Lam quit his job last year, packed his bag, grabbed his digital camera, and jetted off an on adventure of a truly adventurous lifetime.
Traveling across 17 countries in 343 days, he documented his trip by taking over 6,000 photographs. The results? Well, take a look at this.
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TEXT: TIME IS NOTHING: A Journey Around the World
343 Days
17 Countries
19 Airplanes
58 Buses
18 Boats
6,231 Photographs
KIEN LAM, SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA: After I left my company last year, I figured it was as good time as any to take off and to do a bit of backpacking.
This project kind of came about because I wanted to capture my trip, but not have to subject my family and friends through a massive slide show that would take days to finish.
The trip was about 343 days from the first to the last shot that I took. During that time I took about 58 buses, 19 planes, 18 boats, 8 trains, and a few car rides here and there.
When I was in Marrakech in Morocco at the Djemaa el Fna Square, there were food stalls and street performers, vendors, shops, and sort of this labyrinth of a bazaar.
The biggest part was actually compiling the clips, choosing which ones to leave out, because I ended up with about over 150 different scenes.
My brother's a musician, and I wanted to have an original composition to accompany the music just to help convey the mood of some of the different scenes, so we kind of worked together and came up with this piece, "Places and Faces," for the video.
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FOSTER: And what a trip it must have been. I'm Max Foster, that was CONNECT THE WORLD. Thank you so much for watching. The world headlines and the best of "BACKSTORY" are up next after a short break.
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