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South Carolina Republican Presidential Debate; Political Attack Ads; Response to "Chocolate's Child Slaves"; Tracing Cocoa Supply Chains; London Drills for Olympic Security; Big Interview With British Olympic Hopeful Jessica Ennis; Video Shows Crew Told Passengers Everything Was OK; Allied Forces Shot in Afghanistan; Collision Course at Australian Open
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: on behalf of the captain, we ask you kindly to go back to your cabins. If you wish, you can walk around the hall. We have fixed the electrical problem we had, the generator problem.
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BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: We have fixed the problems. Government video emerges showing the crew of the Costa Concordia telling passengers everything was OK. That extraordinary footage tonight, as bad weather hampers the rescue effort.
Live from London, I'm Becky Anderson.
Also tonight...
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NEWT GINGRICH (R), U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that.
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ANDERSON: Lashing out -- a Republican candidate -- presidential candidate gets feisty hours before a crucial U.S. election primary.
And could this young athlete be Great Britain's golden girl on the 2012 London Olympics?
My interview with her coming up this hour.
Well, when should rescue efforts end?
It's a grim question that, some time soon, officials handling the Costa Concordia wreck will have to answer.
Operations above water have resumed. They were suspended earlier today after the ship moved. You can see crews rappelling up the side of the capsized vessel in this video shot yesterday.
The effort below water remains halted. Divers may try to go back in on Saturday morning. The death toll remains at 11, with 21 still missing.
Well, eerie underwater video released by Italy's paramilitary police show divers recovering the Concordia's bell. Fairly or not, it can't help but conjure up images of the Titanic.
There's also a new video that gives us some idea of conditions on board before the ship started to capsize.
Have a listen and a look at this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: on behalf of the captain, we ask you kindly to go back to your cabins. If you wish, you can walk around the hall. We have fixed the electrical problem we had, the generator problem. Everything will be calm. If you wish to remain standing up here, that's fine, too, but I ask you kindly to go back to your rooms and to keep calm.
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ANDERSON: Well, go back to your rooms and keep calm. Clearly, they have no idea of the looming disaster ahead.
I want to bring in Dan Rivers right now from Giglio Island -- Dan, quite startling there to hear a crew members basically telling passengers that -- that everything was OK.
DAN RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Extraordinary, isn't it?
And I think it just banks up this kind of picture that is emerging of conflicting information that was given to the passengers. Some passengers being told, as you heard there, go back to your cabins, because there's not a problem. Other passengers being told to evacuate. The whole thing taking several hours.
The international standard for the evacuation of a ship of that size should be 30 minutes. Yet it took some two hours or more to get everyone off and into lifeboats. And we know that not everyone made it, as well, as you said, still 21 people missing, 11 confirmed dead.
And where they're still trying to get the divers back inside the ship. That had to be suspended today, Becky, because it carries on shifting around the ship in the -- in the sea because of the currents and the fact that it's perched very precariously.
Earlier on, I spoke to the coast guard commander in charge of all this, Cosimo Nicastro, who gave us the latest on the efforts to salvage the Costa Concordia.
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COSIMO NICASTRO, ITALIAN COAST GUARD: And we started the operation for -- for (INAUDIBLE). So we started to put a barrier around the ship. And the second step, we were waiting for a tank -- a tanker, the ship that are coming in the next days to start to pump the fuel.
There are 23 tanks in the -- and they are -- they are -- we need like at least four weeks to finish these operations.
And the third step will be anchored the ship, doesn't let -- don't let the ship move again.
So this is a still complicated situation and it needs a lot of effort to -- to do everything quick and safe.
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RIVERS: More questions, Becky, about the actions of the captain, in particular, what he was up to just in the minutes immediately after the collision. Suggestions from the chef on board the ship that he ordered dinner. He continued to wait for his dessert about an hour after they had hit the rocks. And suggestions he was having dinner with a blond woman from Moldavia.
She has come out and has talked to the media. She's 25 years old. Her name is Domnica Cemortan. She's actually an employee of the Costa Cruise Company, but was off duty during this passage. She bought her own ticket to -- to stay on board. she is trying to paint the captain's actions in a very different light.
Hear what she has to say.
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DOMNICA CEMORTAN, FORMER CREW MEMBERS (through translator) I have heard in Russian media that the captain left the ship first or among the first. But this is not true. I am a witness. I don't know if I'm invited to testify in the court or not, but as a witness, I can say that I left the deck at 23:50 following an order from the captain, who told me to go to the third deck to get into a lifeboat that could take more people.
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RIVERS: There were 23 different fuel tanks on board, we're told. And that's something that they're going to start focusing on in the next coming days, how on earth they're going to get down into the engine rooms to empty those fuel tanks. It's going to be an operation which, for all -- well, realistically, take several weeks. And the operation to -- to move this ship behind me could take several months. It could be the summer before she is taken off Giglio Island -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Yes. And the weather, of course, it's going to be crucial.
Stay with us, Dan.
I'm going to -- I'm going to come back to you in a couple of minutes.
I want to get to Jenny Harrison now, because all week long we've been hearing about how worsening weather conditions could impact the rescue and recovery operations there.
But is the forecast changing?
Well, Jenny Harrison is at the World Weather Center and she -- she joins us now -- Jen, what's -- what's the news?
What's the prospect at this point?
JENNY HARRISON, ATS METEOROLOGIST: It's not a good week ahead, really -- weekend ahead, Becky.
It has been changing throughout Friday. The winds, in particular, have been picking up, very blustery, also coming in from different directions.
I want to show you the satellite across the entire region of Europe, because you can see all of these clouds.
Now, allots is coming through on a frontal system which is, of course, impacting the Central Mediterranean.
This is what's bringing the very strong winds, but also throughout Friday, we've seen some showers across the region, as well. And, as I say, the winds have been varying in strength.
You can see just a close-up image of the location of the shipwreck over the last 12 hours. You can see that cloud.
These are the current conditions. Remember, we don't have an observation point actually on Giglio Island. But we do just to the east of there, up toward the north.
And you can see here, we've got winds coming in from the southwest along the coastline into the north of the wreck, actually coming in from the northwest.
So it's the shifting of the winds, as well. They're not always coming in from the same direction.
Now, we know, of course, the ship is so precariously balanced. And so when you've got these winds coming from different directions, different strengths, this is the forecast going through Saturday. This really could potentially have some impact.
This is the winds forecast. You see that area of red across the central regions. That is what the problem is going to be.
I just want to show you, again, we've talked about how precariously it is actually balanced. We've got this 10 to 20 meters slope. And then it's literally right now just meters away from potentially sliding down.
Now, Dan was talking about the amount of fuel -- 23 actual containers of the fuel, over nearly 2,500 tons. This is an underwater image. There is that very big drop. It's so close to that.
This -- if this happens, if the ship actually does make that drop, the pressure on those fuel tanks when it's actually under 60 to 90 meters of water above, that is something else to be considered, as well, of course, as the actual rock formation, the jaggedness of those rocks and whether it could actually puncture those 23 fuel tanks.
So these are the concerns going forward.
The winds have been variable. This is the forecast. More rain expected on Sunday. But in the meantime, those winds, Becky, blustery and coming from those different directions.
ANDERSON: Not the best forecast, I'm afraid.
Jenny, thank you very much, indeed, for that.
Let's get you back to Giglio and to Dan Rivers -- Dan, you've been covering this story all week long. We're a week in, of course, from this disaster.
What's your sense of where operations go from here?
RIVERS: Well, it's -- it's one week almost to the minute since this accident happened, a week ago, of course, this boat was listing and -- and getting ever more dangerously tipped over on its side, until finally it went right over.
I think there are going to be several interesting strands to this story going forward.
First of all, is obviously the -- the massive effort to try and salvage this boat, to stop the -- the fuel oil that Jenny was talking about there from leaking out. Everyone is going to be keeping a very close eye on the weather.
But there's also going to be a huge litigation from all this. There's going to be compensation claims from the passengers who made it off. There's going to be compensation claims from the families of those who didn't make it off. Potentially, there's going to be a massive effect on the cruise industry on a wider basis. And then, of course, you've got that kind of environmental impact here, as well. This is a -- a marine park here. If those fuel tanks do rupture, it's going to be a massive operation to contain that fuel and to try and stop it coming ashore onto these pristine beaches behind me.
ANDERSON: Dan Rivers reporting for you.
Dan, thank you very much, indeed, for that.
You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD live from London.
Still to come, a deadly day for NATO forces in Afghanistan. We'll be live in Kabul with more details on how U.S. Marines and how French soldiers were killed in two separate incidents.
U.S. federal agents say this Web site was an international criminal enterprise. Ahead on the show, their 20 country raid to shut it down and how hackers responded.
It was business as usual for tennis's big names on day five of the Australian Open.
That and more in your sports update after the break.
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ANDERSON: You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD here on CNN.
I'm Becky Anderson.
This is the world's news leader.
Welcome back.
The Republican race for the White House is heating up with just hours go to until the crucial South Carolina primary. Now, recent polls show Mitt Romney's lead evaporating after a surge by Newt Gingrich in the southern conservative state.
Well, during a debate last night, Gingrich angrily denied allegations from an ex-wife that he'd asked her for an open marriage.
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JOHN KING, HOST, "JOHN KING USA": Would you like to take some time to respond to that?
NEWT GINGRICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: No, but I will.
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GINGRICH: I think -- I think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office. And I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that.
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ANDERSON: Well, a standing ovation for Newt Gingrich. but how did the other contenders fare?
We'll do that for you in about 15 minutes from now.
Well, allied forces in Afghanistan have suffered a day of heavy losses. At least six U.S. Marines died in a helicopter crash in Helmand Province. And further east, a rogue Afghan Army soldier fatally shot at least four French soldiers, bringing an angry response from France's president.
CNN's Nick Paton Walsh has more on those stories for us now from Afghanistan's capital, Kabul -- Nick.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. President Sarkozy dispatching his defense minister here to investigate what it was that occurred on that base just east of here in Capica (ph), where four French troops were shot dead. I understand from a French official, they were unarmed, training Afghan soldiers. They, of course, trusted their allies in this country. Fifteen or so injured.
The French president clear he wanted operations by the French here immediately suspended and suggesting that if they weren't able to guarantee the safety of their troops here, they might withdraw them early.
The French president experiencing some pressure domestically, of course, ahead of an April election. This war unpopular, still, in France.
The U.S. helicopter crash claimed by the Taliban as a tactical success by them, that they shot down this aircraft, something which has been strongly denied by ISAF. An official here telling me this was mechanical issues causing a hard landing.
But a day like today, which is a large loss of American life and also the suggestion that a valuable member of the coalition might withdraw, it's vitally important, symbolically, at least, 4,000 troops. It really reminds people of how long this war has gone on and saps that will to really -- for the campaign to continue -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Some of your news headlines this evening.
Nick, thank you for that.
All right, we're going to take a very short break.
Up after that, on the eve of the Africa Cup of Nations, we're going to preview the favorites and possible surprises in the competition.
That's next.
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ANDERSON: You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD live from London.
I'm Becky Anderson.
Welcome back.
Twenty-four minutes past nine here.
Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal are on a collision course at the Australian Open. Both men won in straight sets on Friday, advancing to the fourth round. If they maintain their winning form, they will meet in the semi-finals next week.
Well, Mark McKay joining us now from Atlanta, CNN Center in Atlanta, who doesn't, I believe, want to see another Rafael-Roger showdown.
Why is that?
MARK MCKAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, who -- who would not want to see it, Becky?
Let's see, Andy Murray, maybe Novak Djokovic. They -- they would rather not see that. But I think tennis fans overall -- you love your tennis. It would be great to see Roger and Rafael go at it again. Like you said, we are on track to see these guys meet in the last four.
Both are now under the round of 16. Nidal earning his pass by taking care of young Slovakian Lucas Lacko on Friday. Nidal beat him in straight sets. It's the first time in a couple of years that the Spaniard, Nadal, has come to Melbourne healthy. So he is certainly one to watch.
But so is the old veteran, Roger Federer.
What is he, in his early 30s now, and we're calling him the old veteran?
He downed Croatian giant Ivo Karlovic in three sets in the previous round. A bit of a slow start in the match for the Swiss maestro. But he got rolling. Ivo had no chance.
So, yes, Becky, a Nadal-Federer clash still very much on the minds of tennis fans Down Under, although they're getting ready to settle in to watch Novak Djokovic playing just a few hours in Melbourne Park.
ANDERSON: Good stuff. That's for tennis fans.
For soccer fans, a big weekend. The African Cup of Nations, of course...
MCKAY: Yes.
ANDERSON: -- kicks off on Saturday.
What can we expect from that?
MCKAY: Sixteen teams going at it, Becky. You know, many club sites, especially in Europe, have lost their African players, players of African descent, to play in this very important tournament. I think French clubs have a total of 50 in all that they've lost them to play in this tournament, which runs through the middle of February.
Ivory Coast -- they're going to be one to keep an eye on as this tournament progresses. Egypt are the three time African Cup of Nations champions. But they failed to qualify. Africa, the Ivory Coast team, they have the talent and they might come away with their first trophy since 1992.
Nigeria, they're another team that failed to make the tournament. That means we get to hear the expertise of Nigerian international, Dickson Etuhu.
He played in this tournament two times.
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DICKSON ETUHU: African football is the most difficult -- I can't even start to explain how hard it is. You've got to worry about the pitch forever, you know. And it's -- it's not easy, you know. And I mean you've got the fans that -- the atmosphere is very intimidating (INAUDIBLE). And, you know, when you see this big team getting knocked out, you see it -- you always find sharp results, because it's that kind of environment. You know, it's not easy.
And, you know, we just have to for -- for Africa, it's -- it's a big thing. You know, football is everything in Africa.
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MCKAY: It certainly is. And we think that, in many ways, Becky, this tournament is very wide open. Watch out for a very young Senegal team. They could very well lift that trophy come February 12th. But there's still a lot of football to be played.
ANDERSON: All right. Good tip. We'll keep an eye on them.
All right, before you go, staying round the sporting world, as it were, tonight, I know that there was a big game, a big NBA game with the biggest stars clashing in Miami last night.
Who came out top on -- in that?
MCKAY: Well, it was interesting, Becky, because Lebron James, he is certainly one of the biggest stars in the league, against Kobe Bryant of the Lakers. Now, James came into this game a bit ill. He was under the weather, feeling flu-like symptoms. So you wonder, there a little cough there in the warm-ups.
You wonder how Lebron would do.
Well, he -- and it got even worse for him here, Becky, as Josh McRoberts delivers a forearm to the head of James. I mean this guy couldn't get a break.
But you know what, he channeled that energy. Somehow he came out healthy in this one, as James was able to hit from basically all over the court. Watch as James does his thing.
Kobe Bryant did his best to keep his team in it, 24 points for the Lakers star. But it just wouldn't be enough, even less than 100 percent Lebron James is so dangerous for this Miami Heat team, who nearly -- they need all three of their big three to be hitting on all cylinders. But even when, you know, Dwayne Wade has been out this year. James wasn't feeling too good on this night. But he certainly looks healthy enough to put down 31 points, as The Heat beat the Lakers by 11.
Becky, much more sport coming up in just over an hour on "WORLD SPORT".
You go out and have a good weekend, all right?
ANDERSON: Oh, thank you very much, indeed.
A half an hour left, though, and then we'll -- we'll hit the streets, as it were.
All right, thank you for that.
Mark McKay, "WORLD SPORT," an hour from now.
Still to come in the last half hour of this week's CONNECT THE WORLD, it was a fiery debate as the Republican candidates for the White House went head-to-head. Up next, find out what caused the crowd to boo Mitt Romney.
After 10 years of inaction, it's time to face facts -- the link between chocolate and child slavery must be broken. Tonight, we're going to ask how we do that.
And going for gold -- we talk to Team GP's -- GB's (ph) Olympic golden girl, Jessica Ennis, about what it takes to win.
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BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD here on CNN, just after half past nine in London. I'm Becky Anderson for you. Let's get you a check of the world news headlines at this point.
Above-water rescue efforts have resumed at the crippled Costa Concordia cruise ship. They were suspended earlier this Friday because the ship moved. Well, below-water operations could resume Saturday morning, 21 people, I remind you, are still missing.
President Nicolas Sarkozy warned he may bring French troops in Afghanistan home early after four unarmed soldiers were killed on a NATO base when a man dressed in an Afghan uniform opened fire. The ambush followed the downing of a NATO helicopter in Helmand province. Six US marines died there.
New violence in Nigeria claimed the lives of at least two police officers. Three bombs and gunfire tore through the northern city of Kano. Similar attacks in the area have been blamed on the Islamist group Boko Haram.
The FBI's website and other sites are back online after being crippled by an activist hacker group. Anonymous set its sights on the Department of Justice, amongst others, in response to Megaupload.com being shut down. That site was popular with users who wanted to download films and music.
And the four Republican candidates for the White House are making a last- ditch appeal for votes ahead of tomorrow's primary in South Carolina. A new survey indicates Mitt Romney's national lead over the other remaining candidates is shrinking. The former Massachusetts governor now has a 10 point lead over Newt Gingrich, a margin down 13 points from Monday.
Well, tomorrow's prize is clear. Since 1980, the winner of the South Carolina primary has gone on to win the Republican nomination, and during a debate last night, Newt Gingrich was in no mood to let allegations from an ex-wife stand in his way. Here's how he reacted when CNN's John King asked for his response to claims that he wanted an open marriage.
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JOHN KING, CNN DEBATE HOST: Would you like to take some time to respond to that?
NEWT GINGRICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: No. But I will.
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GINGRICH: I think -- I think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office, and I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that.
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ANDERSON: Well, that seemed to go down well with the crowd there. His closest rival, Mitt Romney, received a very different reaction when asked about his tax returns.
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MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't know how many years I'll release. I'll take a look at what the -- what the documents are --
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ROMNEY: -- and I'll release them -- multiple years, I don't know how many years, and -- but I'll be happy to do that.
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ANDERSON: All right. Well, tomorrow's vote will be a true test for Mitt Romney, seen by some as more moderate than his rivals. The former Massachusetts governor has his work cut out in a deeply conservative state. CNN's Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger is in the South Carolina city of Charleston tonight.
You watched the debate, what a fiery occasion that was. Gingrich, now it seems, at least as far as the polls are concerned, and gaining ground on Mitt Romney. OK. Can you conceive of a Gingrich win at this point?
GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes, I think you can see your way to Gingrich winning in this state. It's a very conservative state.
When you talk to the Romney people, now, they're clearly starting to lower expectations, telling journalists, "You know what? If we have a blip in South Carolina, we are the only campaign," and there is a really good point to this, that they're the only campaign with the resources and the organization to endure a very long race for the nomination, one they would rather not have to endure.
I think what we've seen in this last week is how politics can change very quickly. Romney did not have a good last week. He was sort of assaulted, if you will, on his -- the issue of his tax returns, and he hasn't found a really good way to deal with that, nor is he comfortable at all in talking about his personal wealth.
There seems to be kind of an issue with him about how do you talk about the fact that you're a very wealthy person, but on the other hand, you really care about the middle class, which is what this campaign, when the nominee goes up against Barack Obama, is going to be about, because in this country right now, the big political issue is the wealth gap and how the rich have gotten richer and the poor have gotten poorer.
And so, Romney seems to, for whatever reason, be having a very difficult time addressing the issues of his wealth or his taxes.
ANDERSON: Well, let's assume that Romney's campaign will certainly buy some airtime in the weeks and months to come. Attack ads, of course, are infamous across these US presidential campaigns.
BORGER: Yes.
ANDERSON: Stay with me for a moment, Gloria. I want to remind our viewers of just what we've seen in the past. The airwaves have been full of attack ads since the race for the Republican nomination began.
These types of attacks or tactics don't always pay off. During the Democratic race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, for example, in 2008, Clinton took out an ad known as the "3:00 AM phone call." Have a listen to this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's 3:00 AM and your children are safe and asleep.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But there's a phone in the White House, and it's ringing. Something's happening in the world. Your vote will decide who answers that call, whether it's someone who already knows --
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ANDERSON: Well, supporters and opponents alike criticized that ad, and it quickly became the stuff of parody. Many pundits said the ad hurt Clinton's campaign and her race for the nomination.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The accusations --
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ANDERSON: An attack ad that did pay off came during the 2004 race between George W. Bush and John Kerry. The Massachusetts senator was targeted over his military service during the Vietnam War.
While the ad was later removed, some voters believed it had done too much damage. Kerry lost the race for the White House.
And finally, an attack ad going back to the 1964 election between Lyndon Johnson and Barry Goldwater. Johnson used this, nicknamed the "daisy ad," to convince voters that he was the best man to protect the US from nuclear war, not his Republican counterpart.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Six, five, four, three, two, one, zero --
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ANDERSON: Johnson won in a landslide. You won't remember all of those, Gloria, but you'll remember some of them. None of us remember all of these -- attack ads. What can we expect going forward from these candidates?
BORGER: Well, it's been really nasty. South Carolina's kind of famous for having nasty campaigns, and it hasn't disappointed us yet. If you turn on your television set here, it's -- every commercial break is full of attack ads.
I talked to some voters today who said that, essentially, the attack ads have started canceling each other out because they're so negative.
But Newt Gingrich, for example, said that he was attacked mercilessly by friends of the Romney campaign in what we call in this country a Super PAC, and these are ads that are run and financed separate from the campaigns but in support of the campaigns.
The candidates cannot direct them, but due to a recent Supreme Court decision here, you're allowed to put an awful lot of money into those ads, and that's where we see the greatest influx of money, and they've become very important.
Newt Gingrich had about $3.5 million of them piled on him in the state of Iowa. And then he had his own Super PAC here, piling on Mitt Romney in the state of South Carolina.
So, there seems to be an unending appetite for these ads because, on the one hand, these Super PACs do it autonomously. The candidates can say, "You know what? That's not me, it's people who support me."
So, they have kind of a plausible deniability in saying "It's not me putting on those angry ads, it's the guys who like me, and there's nothing I can do about it." So, we're seeing more and more and more of them.
ANDERSON: Let's call it two degrees of separation rather than six, shall we? At some stage, these guys -- somebody's going to win this nomination, and the others are going to have to support that candidate, but at this stage, we're not seeing -- we're seeing none of that.
Gloria, always a pleasure. Thank you very much, indeed, for joining us. CNN, of course, will have live coverage and analysis of the results from the South Carolina primary Saturday night, starting 11:00 London time, midnight Berlin time. All part of CNN's America's Choice coverage of the 2012 US presidential election.
You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD here on CNN. Up next, we revealed the shocking truth and asked the tough questions about a billion-dollar industry. Now it's time for your thoughts on "Chocolate's Child Slaves."
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ANDERSON: All right, now. We are seeing an incredible response online to what was our special Freedom Project investigation. "Chocolate's Child Slaves" aired just over an hour ago here on CNN, and already CNN's social media sites are abuzz with conversation.
This documentary focused on the dark side of chocolate, showing indisputable evidence that child slaves remain hard at work in the cocoa fields of Ivory Coast. I want to show you a short clip of CNN Correspondent David McKenzie with a cocoa producer in the country's northwest.
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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: So, this is a week old.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Exactly.
MCKENZIE (voice-over): Cocoa beans dry in the sun. "It's the middle of the harvest," he says, "and I have no choice but to use children."
MCKENZIE (on camera): Everybody helps? Adults, children?
MCKENZIE (voice-over): "Yes, the children who are old enough to work," he tells me. "While people are emptying the shells, the children can be next to their parents, emptying shells, too."
He says that most of the children are helping their parents.
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ANDERSON: Let's see what you've been saying about this extraordinary documentary on cnn.com/freedom, and using the hash tag @endslavery.
Lydia says, "I'm afraid there is no easy way to end this, as it is a part of the culture. There are many kids whose parents rely on the income."
Hash tag #endslavery, Raksmey says "Children deserve to be happy and cared for. As adults, we have a moral obligation to protect them."
Again, at hash tag #endslavery, Yasmine says "Modern day slavery isn't just a problem to be solved by governments. Businesses need to pay their dues, too."
Catherine Smith says, "We all need to demand answers from politicians and business. We have the power because we are the consumers."
Right now, the documentary maker David McKenzie is asking -- sorry, is answering your questions about his documentary, live at cnn.com/freedom. So, keep your laptops open and do get involved in that conversation.
Well, let's bring in, now, Auret van Heerden. He's CEO of the Fair Labor Association, which basically helps companies like an external auditor and advises them on how to monitor their supply chains.
Now, the FLA is now working with its first chocolate company, that is Nestle, which he says in the case of cocoa, this company's supply chain in Ivory Coast has never been traced -- never been traced -- until now, that is.
Auret is with us from Geneva, Switzerland. Great that they're working with you at this point. Remarkable that its supply chain has never been traced. Does that reflect the industry, or are they unique in that respect?
AURET VAN HEERDEN, CEO, FIAR LABOR ASSOCIATION: No, I think it's typical of most of the cocoa companies. In fact, all of the cocoa companies. And the reason for that is because most of them are buying from traders, so they can see as far as the trader, but really, they can't see all the way down to the farm.
ANDERSON: Right. You're talking about middle men, aren't you?
VAN HEERDEN: Yes.
ANDERSON: Who are those middle men?
VAN HEERDEN: So, you have traders or co-ops. You also, then, have beneath them the guys who actually go out in the trucks, which we saw in the documentary earlier, who are collecting the cocoa from the farms. So, it's a supply chain characterized by multiple layers and very little documentation.
ANDERSON: The cocoa protocol which was signed up to by the major chocolate companies and cocoa organizations ten years ago was an organize -- was an agreement that wanted to see the end to child slavery within the decade.
We're at 2011 (sic). Now, the industry says by 2020, they're looking to put an end to 70 percent of the worst practices. They say that they are committed to that. Are they?
VAN HEERDEN: Becky, a lot of effort has gone into this over the last ten years, but I think everyone would agree that it hasn't been enough. And I think one of the reasons that it didn't gain the traction it should have is that they adopted a sectoral approach, a sort of country-level approach. And as such, it was everybody's problem, but nobody's problem.
And the big difference now is that Nestle has stepped up and said, "We'll trace it. Our supply chain, take our share of the responsibility, and get working."
ANDERSON: What are they learning from that auditing of their supply chain?
VAN HEERDEN: So, we have a team on the ground right now in Ivory Coast. They've been there for the last couple of weeks monitoring this harvest. We have been able to trace the supply chain. We've got 95 percent of it nailed down in a great amount of detail.
And we can already see where the gaps are. We can see where the care, the duty of care, falls down. We can see partners or actors in that supply chain who are not really exercising the duty of care that they should be.
So, we'll be able to immediately make recommendations to really strengthen the surveillance, the monitoring, and the social responsibility of that purchasing chain.
ANDERSON: Fascinating. Auret van Heerden, we appreciate the time this evening. Thank you very much, indeed, for joining us here on CONNECT THE WORLD.
We mentioned at the start of this segment that CNN traveled deep into the interior of the world's largest cocoa producer in search of answers. Now, if you missed it earlier, you can still see what the team found on the ground in Ivory Coast. It is a CNN Freedom Project investigation. It's called "Chocolate's Child Slaves," and it airs 2:00 PM Saturday here in London, 3:00 PM in Berlin.
You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD here on CNN. When we come back, the path to Olympic glory. Hear what it takes from one of Britain's best medal hopes as she prepares to make her Games debut.
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ANDERSON: Going through the drill for what will be the biggest peacetime security operation Britain has seen. We are, of course, in an Olympic year with 189 days to go until the London Games get underway.
Now, this week, the country's elite forces were seen on the Thames practicing tactics to counter terrorism. So, too, scientists unveiled the toughest anti-doping lab in Olympics history to crack down on drug cheats.
Well, the stars of the show, the athletes, are also stepping up preparations as the path to Olympic glory looms ever closer. In tonight's Big Interview, I sit down with one of those Games' hopefuls, Britain's Jessica Ennis.
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ANDERSON (voice-over): Sprinting and hurling, jumping and throwing. Seven events over two grueling days. Such is the test of might and multitasking for heptathlete, and Britain's Jessica Ennis is among the world's best.
ANDERSON (on camera): Other athletes decided they're really good at one thing, and then they go after it. When did you decide that you were really good, or could be really good, at loads of things, so you were going to go after all of them?
JESSICA ENNIS, BRITISH HEPTATHLETE: Well, when I started, I tried everything, and the coach I was with wanted me to keep my options open and just try all the different events and see where my talent lied.
But yes, I enjoyed everything and he believed in me and believed that I could be a good heptathlete and so I decided to give them all a go.
ANDERSON: Who inspired you?
ENNIS: I didn't particularly have one role model growing up. I remember watching a number of rich athletes complete. They seem to be that generation of every great British athlete doing really well, Steph Carrowan (ph), Steve Backley, Mick Hill, Sally Gunnell, just so many athletes. And they inspired me.
But I'm really inspired by the people around me, my family, my parents who introduced me to the sport and really got me where I am today.
ANDERSON (voice-over): And today, the former world champion is among the favorites to take home gold at the London Games. It will be her first Olympics after an injury scuttled her debut and her dream at Beijing.
ANDERSON (on camera): You did, of course, miss the Olympics in 2008. Can you take me back? Can you just describe how you felt?
ENNIS: Yes, it was -- it was devastating. It was a really tough year. I felt in great shape, really looking forward to my first Olympics, and then, obviously, picked up this injury that meant that I would have to miss it.
And it was a real disappointment. It was the first major injury I'd had as an athlete, and it just kind of made me question a lot of things, and I just felt really unlucky. And it was really, really disappointing. It was hard to get myself up after that.
ANDERSON: There must be moments of self doubt, and when you were not able to make the Olympics in 2008, I'm sure that was one of them. Can you describe when those moments are, though, and how you got through them?
ENNIS: Yes, I think as a sports person, you have massive highs and lows throughout the whole of your career, and it's having the people, the support around you to get through those low points and to really enjoy the high points.
And you've got to work through them, you've got to expect that they're going to come, and it's just about working through them. And you'd always come out the other end, and obviously, it's that little bit more sweeter.
ANDERSON (voice-over): Indeed, Jessica came back fighting in 2009, winning her first world championship in Berlin. She backed that up in 2010, but narrowly missed out on the gold last year. Russian rival, Tatyana Chernova won the championship. But rather than suffer defeat, Ennis feels even more driven.
ANDERSON (on camera): Who's your great nemesis?
ENNIS: I think after the World Championships last year, most people would say Tatyana Chernova. And I would agree, she's definitely a massive, massive rival and a great competitor.
But there's also the reining Olympic champion Dobrinska. There's a German athlete, and American athlete. There's about four or five really strong girls that are my main rivals at the moment.
ANDERSON: Do they keep you awake at night? Do you wake up in bed and think, "Oh, I can't believe I'm thinking about them again"?
ENNIS: No. I try not to think about them, to be honest. I can't control what they do and how they perform, so for me, it's about -- I probably wake up in the middle of the night worrying that I've not done a bit of training or missed something, and it's more about what I'm doing.
ANDERSON: Jess, what would you say to your younger self?
ENNIS: Oh. What would I say to my younger self? I don't know, that's really tough. I'd say enjoy yourself, make the most of sport, and be the best you can be.
ANDERSON (voice-over): Jessica is one of Britain's great hopes for an Olympic gold medal and has emerged as one of the faces of the London Games.
ANDERSON (on camera): Your an icon for so many people. I read recently that you said that you don't find yourself attractive. This kind of body image sort of issue that you've got. Is that a problem to you?
ENNNIS: I think every -- if you're an athlete, I think people think that you're somehow different. But we're all women at the end of the day, and everyone has little hangups about their body, and it's no different for sports people. It's just the same.
And I think we experience all those little things. We don't like little things about us and the way we look. It's just the kind of normal womanly thing, I think.
ANDERSON: What superstitions did you or do you have when you're competing?
ENNIS: I have little rituals and things that I do in a particular way, but they're top secret, so I cannot disclose them.
ANDERSON: If you weren't an athlete, what would you be?
ENNIS: It's hard to think what I'd be if I wasn't an athlete just because athletics has been a massive part in my life for so long. But I have a psychology degree, so I probably would have studied a little bit harder at Union, done something within the psychology field.
ANDERSON: Where would you like to see the 2020 Games held?
ENNIS: Oh, wow. I'll be quite old, then, so it'll be great to go and watch. Just somewhere hot and amazing.
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ANDERSON: It's a long way away, isn't it? We've got the London Games in the summer, of course, before that. Good luck, Jess.
I'm Becky Anderson, that was CONNECT THE WORLD, thanks for watching. The world news headlines and "BackStory" up after this. Don't go away.
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