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The World Greets Baby Cambridge; Pope's Car Gets Lost; Barcelona Hires Gerard Martino as New Manager
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BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: Welcome to this special edition of Connect the World live from Buckingham Palace as Britain, the Commonwealth and the rest of the world celebrate the latest edition to the royal family. And our very first look at the boy who would be kind.
Here you can see the very moment the world set eyes on the new prince in the arms of its beaming mother with a proud Prince William by her side.
We don't yet have a name, but Baby Cambridge is the unofficial nickname he has been given.
He was born at 4:24 pm local time Monday, making all of 29 hours old, weighing eight pounds and six ounces at birth to be exact.
We've got correspondents on all sides of this story for you, as you would imagine tonight. We'll go to Dan Rivers in Bucklebury, Kate's home village in a moment.
First, though, to Max Foster who is outside the royal baby's new home Kensington Palace. Max, they've arrived. They're at a home. They must be relieved. What do we know about their plans?
MAX FOSTER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Nothing at all. They're going to be here, I think, for a few days and then they may head off to Bucklebury, because they've just got a small two bedroom cottage here. I say small. I mean, it's quite nice, but it's not the family home that they're planning to build here, which won't be ready until the autumn.
So I think they're going to go back to Bucklebury where she feels really comfortable. It's so private and discrete there. They can really get to know this baby, because they're really about bonding. It really became clear.
You know, I was told that they wanted to spend some time with the baby on their own before it's officially announced as a baby that had been born. And then you saw today that sort of amazing chemistry in that little family unit. William is so committed to this little boy already. You can see it. I mean, I followed him for awhile. You can see how excited and proud he was, how they're working as a partnership, how Kate was so excited. Her words, you know, we so often - so rarely hear her speak honestly. And she did speak and she felt really - I mean, I think they both felt really emotional and proud. But they looked well as well.
So I think they'll be here for a couple of days whilst the storm calms down and then they'll discretely slip up to Bucklebury.
ANDERSON: Max, have they got company tonight, is the big question?
FOSTER: Have they got?
ANDERSON: Company. Pippa, James, Uncle Harry possibly?
FOSTER: No. I mean, we don't know if Harry is in - Harry is definitely in London later in the week and he lives here as well and he'll be desperate to see the baby, so possibly. No sign of Pippa's come up. I mean, this is going to be their private time.
This is the deal, you know, we got all those amazing moments today, a full media access as far as they were concerned. Now it's their private time to spend on their own.
So maybe there will be some visitors in and out. I suspect, because of the way they've been quite tight so far, they just want to spend time together. A lot of new parents want to do that.
So, I think that's probably the case. And then maybe once they get to Bucklebury, then a few visitors will pass through. It's easier to be discrete there than it is here.
ANDERSON: Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right.
Max, thank you. Max Foster at Kensington Palace, which is the home now for a period of time at least for William and Kate and their new baby.
Well, formerly a press secretary to the queen and a media manager for Prince Charles and Diana, our next guest is no stranger to the subject to the royals. I'm delighted to have Dickie Arbiter with me this evening.
Firstly, just your reaction to what we've seen and heard over the past, what, 24, 48 hours.
DICKIE ARBITER, ROYAL COMMENTATOR: Well, it was absolutely fabulous what happened. The announcement, it took me back 31 years, because I was there 31 years ago as a reporter when William was born. It was very different. The hospital wasn't there, there was just a wall. There were lots of photographers, lots of cameras, not as many as there were over this past few weeks, because there wasn't 24 hour news. But it was exciting then for the occasion. But this time, there were so many spectators and they added to the sort of party atmosphere.
When it was announced yesterday that she'd had a boy, a most almighty cheer went out and people waving flags and it was a warm, balmy night and they just stayed and stayed and stayed.
ANDERSON: Stick with me, Dickie. I want to get Bucklebury before we continue, because Dan Rivers is standing by there.
Dan, Max and I have just been talking. We know that the royal couple plus one are now ensconced at Kensington Palace. The big question, of course, is whether they will make their way to the next couple of days to Bucklebury which is Kate's family home.
One anticipates, or one assumes that those in Bucklebury will be in - oh, hang on a minute, I think we've actually - stay with me on this, because communications are a little bit iffy tonight. As you can imagine, everyone is trying to get to everywhere. I'm sure that we've got Dan at the moment. So we'll get back to him in Bucklebury.
What I want to know is whether Bucklebury eventually, over the next couple of days, become home for a bit. And would you expect that?
ARBITER: No, I don't. I don't expect it at all. You know, there was a lot of media hype that Kate when she leaves hospital she'll go to Bucklebury. I think the whole idea of Carol and Michael Middleton going there today was a clear signal that they weren't going to Bucklebury. My guess is they'll stay at Kensington Palace for a few days, get to know each other, because they've got to get to know each other all over again, because there's a third person in that marriage - a very famous line put by William's mother.
And they're going to have to get used to the sleepless nights. Who is going to get up and feed. Who is going to get up and change the nappies. So that's something they want to do under their own roof.
And I reckon they'll probably head off to Balmoral when they can move, because there's open space. There's seclusion. There's privacy. There's security. They don't have to worry about a thing.
And granny will be up there...
ANDERSON: Great-granny who, of course, is in residence here this evening. We know that because the royal standard is flying. We know that she's leaving for Balmoral towards the end of the week.
So if you were a betting man, you'd say that's where you think they're off to. All right.
Listen, let's get back to 1982, because I just want to sort of compare and contrast the pictures that we saw today with the vision that we saw back in 1982. And if I can get my director to bring the shots up tomorrow - tonight, we saw William and Kate today - Kate with the baby, William by her side. She then passed the baby to William. Back in 1982, interesting, it was Prince Charles with the baby who then passed it to Diana, a man - well, let's have a look at the shots. And then, the monitors down here and you just talk me through if you will the contrast in those shots.
ARBITER: I think what we've got to remember while we're waiting for those shots to come up, Diana was only 21. So she was very young when William was born. And Charles was 30-something. So there was this sort of age difference - he was 34.
William and Catherine are the same age, almost. There's a year's difference between the two of them. And the other thing is they live together. They knew each other eight years before they got married. They lived together for several years before they got married. They knew everything about each other, everything there is to know about each other, which Charles and Diana didn't.
So William felt very comfortable in his own skin going in there and comforting his wife and being there at the birth.
I think coming out with her and being part of this whole circus, if we can put it that way, because it was a bit of a media circus. And he participated in it.
ANDERSON: These are the shots that I was eluding to. And, yeah, just walk me through. You were there 31 years ago, June 21st...
ARBITER: You know they were very much in love. Whatever anybody says, Charles and Diana were in love with each other when they got married. They were in love with each other for several years. In fact, he couldn't actually keep his hands off her in public. He used to pinch her bottom frequently. And, you know, and the cameras used to get that.
But as you can see, she's very young. She's very fresh faced, very immature, whereas Catherine walked out a very mature woman, very much happy with what she was doing.
ANDERSON: Let me walk you through some of what was said today. We're looking at the pictures, of course, of '82. Let's bring back the pictures from today.
Reporter, "have you changed a nappy?"
William, "I've done that already."
Kate, "he's done his first nappy already. William is very good," she said.
William, "he's got her looks thankfully.
Kate, "no, no, no."
I mean, they really played with each other today. Comment re: the kids hair. William," he's got way more than me, thank god." William then just thanked the reporters.
So he played with people a bit. But we know he wanted to get that bit over and done with the press, didn't he?
ARBITER: He did want to get it over and done with. He's not - he doesn't love the press. He knows that they're there. They're going a job, and he's got to live with them. But he's going to live with them on his terms.
But the fact that they had this banter. There was nothing rehearsed about it, it was just spontaneous. And it just shows how good those two people are.
And I think the one thing William is determined with this baby, and with any subsequent children, that their children are going to live under the same roof as their parents, unlike him, that he lived under a roof - two parents who loved him, but they didn't live under the same roof.
ANDERSON: William, "he's got a good pair of lungs, that's for sure. He's a big boy. He's quite heavy.
We're still working on a name. So you'll have that chance - so you'll know as soon as we can. It's the first time we've seen him, really, so we're having a proper chance to catch up, he said.
And you've made that comment. They've got to get to know each other. Once again, Dickie, stay with me. I want to see if we can get to Dan Rivers, who I know is in Bucklebury.
And Dan, talk me through what people are saying there. Dickie certainly suggesting that he believes that the couple will stay in Kensington. And then he thinks they'll shoot off to Balmoral where he certainly thinks they'll have a bit more privacy.
What's the talk there in Bucklebury?
DAN RIVERS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think the first thought like much of the country, I'm sure, is one of real delight on seeing the baby, finally, in Kate and William. We still don't know the name. I think they're all desperately keen that they come back here, get back to the Middleton family home, have some privacy, a chance to just relax and enjoy their baby in the comfort of their parents home.
Let me show you where we are. We're in the cottage inn. They're having a huge, big garden party. What a fantastic scene on a lovely English summer's night, all dedicated to the new baby prince. We're with the landlord with the pub. Gary Bush, thank you very much for inviting us in.
Well, what was the reaction in the pub when we saw those pictures of them coming out?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, everyone was so excited. I mean, they waited since yesterday. You've got - no, it was fantastic.
RIVERS: And this is all basically in dedication of the new prince?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Definitely. Yeah, the locals said can we put something on, you know, when the baby is born? And we just jumped at the occasion. It's great from - yeah.
RIVERS: It's the talk of the village, obviously. You see them around the village occasionally. They lead a pretty normal life here, don't they?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, of course they do. You know, we don't actually see them in the pub a lot, but they're about...
RIVERS: In the shops...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the shops, in the sea park, yeah - always.
RIVERS: Brilliant.
OK, well it's going to go on long into the night. We're expecting some fireworks.
One last question, what would be your suggestion for a name?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, definitely Gary.
RIVERS: Gary.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Gary. Good name.
RIVERS: I assume you're joshing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And can I just say happy birthday to my son in Canada? Gavin.
RIVERS; You just did. Well done. OK. Back to you, Becky, from a lovely, traditional English country pub in the Berkshire countryside.
ANDERSON: He's got no chance on Gary. I mean, the odds are so long - you know, maybe, I don't know. Is it worth a bit? Who knows. I'm not sure about that one.
We'll talk about what we think the name might be as - and possibly when we think we might learn about the new prince is called shortly.
What a historic day it's been here, though, complimented by all the unique British flair that people love clouds or some classic pomp and ceremony.
Well, the King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery was in Green Park firing 41 celebratory rounds. And across town, a similar seen at the Tower of London, another gun salute, this time with 62 shots fired.
Well, a guardsman got in the royal baby spirit, marching a celebratory music - to celebratory music at Buckingham Palace. Its famous changing of the guard ceremony and two pairs of beaming new grandparents came to visit the newborn before he left the hospital. First came the Middletons, then the royals Prince Charles joined by Camilla.
Well, messages of congratulations on the new arrival flooding in on social media, not just in the royal family's homeland of the UK here, also in these 15 other Commonwealth realms which - in which the new prince may one day be king. There's heaps of love from the Solomon Islands and 15,000 kilometers away from London. That's from Jackson Ray sent by Google+.
And take a look at this from iReporter Robert Croft in Toronto. He captured the CN Tower being lit up blue to celebrate the birth of a new royal baby boy on Monday night, which is just one of the landmarks across the world painted in blue light for the occasion.
And actor Liam McIntyre sends this via Twitter. Congratulations Kate and William on a baby son! Colonially yours, Australia.
Well, stay with us here on Connect the World. We're going to have much more on the royal baby and what's been, as I say, an historic day for the United Kingdom.
There is other news, of course, and we're following that for you. The U.S. could be a step closer to beginning weapons shipments to Syrian rebels after a key hurdle is cleared. That story straight ahead.
And then, he loves being the people's pope, but (inaudible) is posing some fairly big security challenges. We're going to have a live report on Pope Francis' historic trip to Brazil.
All that coming up. This is a special edition of Connect the World. Do stay with us.
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ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson, from Buckingham Palace this evening. As the world gets its first glimpse of the new heir to the British throne. A historic moment, this young royal family embark on their new life together. Much more on this story ahead.
I want to, though, first to turn to some other news of the day. And Egypt's interior ministry is warning it will deal with any violence firmly and decisively after deadly clashes overnight. Now the streets of Cairo are calm, but tense today. These pictures show supporters of deposed President Mohamed Morsy staging a sit-in to demand his reinstatement. State media say at least 10 people were killed in violence that began Monday and raged through the night.
Supporters and opponents of Morsy clashed near Cairo University as well as Tahrir Square.
Morsy's family, meantime, is promising to sue the military for overthrowing, quote, kidnapping Egypt's democratically elected president.
Interim leaders have said Morsy is being held in a quote, safe place for his own good.
The U.S. President Barack Obama should soon move forward on a plan to arm Syrian rebels. Congressional committee chairman says his panel has now agreed to the plan after some key concerns were resolved. Critics have questioned how the U.S. could prevent weapons from falling into the hands of jihadists who are fighting alongside Syrian rebels.
Today, a White House spokesman explained in simple terms what the U.S. is hoping to accomplish.
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JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The aid is intended to assist the opposition in its effort to resist Assad and to ultimately prevail over Assad and his forces.
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ANDERSON: 25 next.
An al Qaeda linked group is claiming responsibility after coordinated attacks on two prisons helped hundreds of inmates escape.
One of the prisons attacked on Monday was the notorious Abu Ghraib seen here in file video. Now authorities say militants used mortars, bombs and machine guns to free more than 500 inmates, most of them linked to al Qaeda. And we'll discuss this recent spike in violence in Iraq and what it means for the region in about 20 minutes time here on CNN.
Well, authorities in Brazil are reviewing security arrangements a day after what was a raucous welcome in Rio de Janeiro. Cheering crowds mobbed the pope's car Monday, at times blocking its path and even reaching through an open window. The Vatican says the pope wasn't bothered, but acknowledged his secretary was terrified.
Well, Shasta Darlington joining us now from Rio with more. What's the latest on his moves? On the atmosphere? And what happens next, Shasta?
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIOANL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Becky, there has been a lot of talk about that particular maneuver yesterday. Different Brazilian officials blaming each other. And basically what happened is the driver took the wrong lane down the highway and got stuck next to a bus lane. So when the pope was driving back from the airport in this very simple Fiat hatchback and people suddenly realized the guy in the backseat with the windows rolled down was the pope. They jumped on it.
They were very emotional, very surprised. People broke down in tears. So it was a great moment for them, but a pretty terrifying moment for the security detail. And they are reviewing all of the security procedures.
In fact, the pope is expected to make at least 16 different tours in the open-backed Popemobile during his visit here. And every single one of those is being watched very closely.
We visited earlier this week the nerve center in the heart of Rio where they've got dozens of screens up on the wall with surveillance cameras monitoring all of these different areas that the pope will visit.
They're going to keep monitoring those, but it is a bit tense. They're worried that things could get out of hand when he's in the back of that open backed Popemobile, Becky.
ANDERSON: Good stuff.
Shasta Darlington out of Rio for you this evening.
Spanish football champions FC Barcelona have appointed Gerardo Martino as their new manager. The Argentine comes from Rosario, the home town of Barca star Lio Messi. Also known as Tata (ph), Martino has signed a two year contract and is tasked with winning back the Champion's League crown last seen at the (inaudible) in 2011.
Coming up on this special edition of Connect the World.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A big, bouncing boy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's royal baby time.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just got goosebumps.
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ANDERSON: The highs, lows, and funniest moments of royal baby coverage. That is just ahead.
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ANDERSON: A very precious load. Prince William carries his son and gets them safely into their car. Dad's firmly in the driving seat as they set off home to Kensington Palace.
You're watching a special edition of Connect the World live from Buckingham Palace. And I do not have to explain why.
Welcome back, I'm Becky Anderson. Let's just remind ourselves of that moment once again. Here's how it happened. And you'll hear my colleague Max Foster at the top.
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MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: There's the baby, the new royal heir in the United Kingdom.
And the duchess of Cambridge, smiling and looking so well, isn't she? A big smile from Prince William, so proud.
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LU STOUT: And then the new royal family moved toward the hoards of cameras, bravely took some questions.
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PRINCE WILLIAM, DUKE OF CAMBRIDGE, UNITED KINGDOM: He has a good pair of lungs on him, that's for sure.
He's a big boy. He's quite heavy, but we're still working on a name. So we'll have that as soon as we can.
But it's the first time we've seen him really, so we're having a proper chance to catch up.
It's very emotional.
PRINCESS CATHERINE, DUCHESS OF CAMBRIDGE, UNITED KINGDOM: Yes, it's very emotional. And it's a special time. I think any parent, I think, probably knows what this feeling feels like.
WILLIAM: Very special.
It was. And I'll remind him of his tardiness when he's a bit older because I know how long you've all sat out here, so hopefully the hospital and you guys can all go back to normal now and we can look after him.
He has her looks, thankfully.
CATHERINE: No, no, no.
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ANDERSON: I want to bring in my special guest tonight, Dickie Arbiter once again, a former press secretary to the queen and media manager for Prince Charles and Diana. They want to get back to normal, he said. And they want the hospital to get back to normal. Back off, basically, press I think was what he was saying.
ARBITER: They've been there since the beginning of the month. I think it's a fair comment.
ANDERSON: All right.
No name, he said, as of yet. Do you believe him?
ARBITER: No, in a word. They know what the baby is going to be called.
I like the idea of Bertie.
ANDERSON: So do I.
ARBITER: You know, Albert. It's a bit harsh, but Bertie is nice and soft. His great-grandfather was a Bertie. He became George VI. He was an Albert.
ANDERSON: Great-great in fact. That's the queen's dad, right?
ARBITER: Queen's dad, yes. He's great-great. Yeah. So...
ANDERSON: More generations than we can remember at the moment.
ARBITER: It's all going...
ANDERSON: Baby names the most popular with the bettors. Which are they? Well, book maker PaddyPower.com lists the top three names as George, James, and Alexander. Next on the list are Louis, Arther, and Henry for the new born prince.
So you've still got some pretty good odds on Bertie.
One of Prince Harry's middle names, of course, Albert.
ANDERSON: Yes. But I think Bertie could be a lead name. I think George might well be in there. Philip. Alexander. They might go for Michael somewhere along there, because of Michael Middleton.
ANDERSON: You know, or knew Charles and of course Diana well. You've worked as press secretary for the queen. What is it about this naming business? I mean, it took more than a week with William. I mean, Harry's came almost immediately to the press and the viewers around the world. But it took, you know, a month with Prince Charges. I think it was until he was christened.
ARBITER: But you see...
ANDERSON: What's the thinking process here?
ARBITER: Well, with Prince Charles, it took a long time, you see, because he was an heir to the throne. They had to get the names out to the Commonwealth so that everybody kind of approved, because he was an heir to the throne. Now with William, a similar sort of thing going out to the royals.
But most of them let the family know. The family are scattered all over the show. Got to let the queen know, that's fine, that's done fairly easily.
ANDERSON: Will she have a say in all of this?
ARBITER: No, she won't.
ANDERSON: Oh, interesting.
ARBITER: No, William won't let her have a say. He'll want to know if she likes the names. And the queen will go along with it, because she just adores - loves and adores William.
But, no, it's William and Catherine's choice. Their child. Their names. And that's the way it's going to be.
ANDERSON: So it should be.
Always a pleasure to have you on. Thank you very much indeed.
The latest world news headlines are just ahead.
Plus, is Iraq back on the path to all-out sectarian war. We're going to find out what a resurgent al Qaeda might mean for the country and the region.
And we are expecting Apple to reveal its third quarter earnings any moment. And we'll bring you those as and when it happens.
Plus, what we can expect from an investors conference call happening shortly after a very big company, very big stop, very, very big story.
Your headlines follow this.
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ANDERSON: This is CONNECT THE WORLD, the top stories for you this hour here on CNN.
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge left St. Mary's Hospital a little while earlier with their newborn son in a baby seat in the back of the car. The couple answered a few media questions before departing for their London residence, which is Kensington Palace.
US president Barack Obama could soon move forward with a plan to arm Syrian rebels after the concerns of some lawmakers were eased. A White House spokesman says, "The goal is to help the Syrian opposition resist Bashar al-Assad's forces and ultimately prevail," end quote.
US tech giant Apple expected to release its quarterly earnings any minute, giving investors a look into how the company is dealing with a host of challenges in recent months. The company expects to report a drop in quarterly profits. We'll bring you those numbers as and when we get them.
An al Qaeda-linked group in Iraq is claiming responsibility for coordinated attacks on two prisons, including the Abu Ghraib prison, shown here. The assaults Monday helped hundreds of inmates escape.
Well, Nick Paton Walsh is following the Iraq jailbreak story from Amman in Jordan and he joins us now, live. What do make of the details, Nick?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this happened late Sunday. We hear about a car bomb first detonating, and then al Qaeda suicide bombers storming the Abu Ghraib prison, detonating devices, followed by heavy weapons, rocket-propelled grenades. That seems to have overwhelmed, obviously, that facility. Hundreds of prisoners escaping, among them the senior leadership of many al Qaeda-linked militant groups.
There, the prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, has convened a crisis cell to assess how this happened and lead a manhunt, but also, he has, importantly, claimed on Iraqi television that there were insiders within the prison, members of the militant group, carrying out this attack, who assisted it from happening.
But of course, the eyes now, really, where are these men? Of course, given the sophistication of this attack, it's highly likely, Becky, they've disappeared into Iraqi society. Becky?
ANDERSON: Yes. I guess that is the big question. As we await to hear what the prime minister is set to do about this, any talk of where these men might be?
WALSH: The real fear, I think, is how that skill set, how that leadership plays back into the insurgency in Iraq. The violence is remarkable, much of it unseen in the Western media. May, the deadliest month since 2006, 2007 and the height of the US military conflict there in many ways.
And just in the last hour or so, we've heard reports of explosions across Baghdad, killing 10, injuring as many as 40. We really are dealing with an often Sunni-backed al Qaeda-linked insurgency, fighting with a predominantly Shia government here.
But the key important thing to bear in mind, Becky: we're talking about an increasingly regionalized conflict. The UN warned just last week that the war in Syria, where a similar sectarian divide between Sunni and Shia has been playing out for over a year in a violent civil war, that's merged into the war in Iraq.
So, both Sunni and Shia on both sides of the border now seemingly fighting in one conflict, according to the UN, and that's what so many fear that this violence would basically conflate into a regional problem. Becky?
ANDERSON: Nick Paton Walsh on the story out of Iraq for you this evening. Well, the US-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003 unleashed what was a decade of violence in the country. From the very beginning, Iraqi civilians have paid an awfully high price, with nearly 7,000 people killed in the first three weeks of that war in 2003.
Iraq's sectarian war reached its climax in 2006, when more than 30,000 civilians were killed in fighting between Shias and Sunnis. But in 2008, there was a significant drop in civilian deaths after a US-led troop surge succeeded in pushing back al Qaeda groups in Iraq, or so the story was from the States.
And the number of casualties stabilized in 2011 as the last American troops pulled out of Iraq, but so far this year, there's been an upsurge in violence, a significant one, with al Qaeda in Iraq launching more attacks.
Reports suggest the group has increased its strength to up to 2500 fighters in the past year, as militants released from prison rejoin. And many fear their ongoing attacks on Iraqi Shias could push the country towards sectarian civil war. And, as Nick was reporting, there are others, now, on the run and possibly reintegrating into some of those sectarian groups.
To understand what impact a resurgent al Qaeda, then, could have on Iraq and the region as a whole, I'm joined from Washington by a regular guest on CNN, Vali Nasr, dean of the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies. It's great to have you on, sir. Was the US troop pullout just too soon, do you think?
VALI NASR, JOHNS HOPKINS SCHOOL OF ADVANCED INTERNATIONAL STUDIES: I think so. I think the US troop presence helped stop the civil war and provides space for a political deal, but the deal had not really grown roots yet, and the score-settling hadn't finished, and we withdrew very quickly. So now, the deal is crumbling and Iraq is reverting back to violence.
ANDERSON: What does a stronger al Qaeda mean for Iraq and the region, specifically the ongoing conflict in Syria, do you think?
NASR: Well, first of all, when you have a very strong al Qaeda presence in Syria and then territory for it to grow back in Iraq, and you have, now, a simmering political conflict in Iraq that is receptive to al Qaeda activity, it provides al Qaeda with a very vast territory to operate in.
And you no longer have US troops in the manner in which they could operate against al Qaeda to limit them, to push them out of territory. So, the combination of Syria and Iraq provides al Qaeda with a very vast territory and opportunity, which ultimately will be a threat to the global security.
ANDERSON: A decade on, sir, there are once again increasing oil revenues. The Kurds, certainly, have gained autonomy in the north of Iraq, and the economy itself is showing signs of improvement. There are those who say that's all the result of a stronger central government.
But you hear story after story about a prime minister and a government who at present are doing, at least on paper, very little to prevent this sectarian divide once again. What is your assessment of this government and what it needs to do next?
NASR: Well, first of all, the government is extremely weak. Even if the prime minister was a strong personality, still the government has very few institutions with which to control its territory, which provides services. A lot of these things need to be rebuilt in Iraq. There's still a lot of damage from the war. And even the oil money coming in, Iraq still has a difficult time getting back on its feet.
And then, the political instability, the corruption, the in-fighting, you have a parliament in which you have many different factions and everybody's in it for themselves, these things don't help. And in many ways, Iraq is still a dysfunctional state.
It may be a richer version of Afghanistan, but -- and might have more troops, then it might have at least a semblance of central government, but it's really not far along enough to be able to provide stability. And the current violence is actually going to corrode even the minimal amount of governance and stability that exists there.
So, Iraq in some ways had not really been able to get out of the gate when the plug of American security was pulled on it. And so it's very much reverting to a situation of chaos and violence.
ANDERSON: Vali Nasr with a pretty pessimistic outlook on Iraq for you tonight on what is another worrying sequence of events in the past 48 hours. Always a pleasure, sir. Thank you very much, indeed, for joining us.
Live from London, this is CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Becky Anderson for you. Still to come this hour, breaking gender barriers, one CEO's advice for aspiring women in business.
And, of course, our coverage of the royal baby continues. And I'm sure you'll forgive us for that, I hope you're enjoying it as we explore what traits Baby Cambridge will have.
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ANDERSON: This week on Leading Women, a regular series here on CNN, we hear more from Ingredion CEO Ilene Gordon. Now, she refused to take cooking and sewing classes, for example, like some of the other girls in junior high. Instead, Gordon insisted on taking shop class with the boys. Let's let her explain.
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ILENE GORDON, CHAIRWOMAN, PRESIDENT, AND CEO, INGREDION: What do you want to start with, Leanne (ph)?
POPPY HARLOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is how Ilene Gordon charges her battery for her demanding job as chairman, president, and CEO of Ingredion, a multibillion-dollar food ingredients company.
GORDON: It's a 24-7 job. I love it, and I've built on my whole career to be ready for a position like this.
HARLOW: Early on, she took jobs often held by men.
GORDON: Sure, there were always people who would question, why is a woman here? I've always pushed ahead and been a pioneer in everything I've done.
HARLOW (on camera): You balked at having to take Home Ec class instead of shop class in junior high, is that right?
GORDON: Absolutely. I saw that the men, the boys, my colleagues, were taking shop. So, I said, why can't I sign up for it? And I actually had to go to the principal because girls didn't do that, and I had to get permission.
HARLOW (voice-over): Gordon assumed the top job at Ingredion in 2009, sharing a key to her success at the Executives Club of Chicago.
GORDON: As you're building your career, and you have to have your own personal plan, I tell all of our employees and people who seek me out for advice, you really need to find mentors.
HARLOW: Is there someone who's mentored you through your life that has been very critical?
GORDON: Certainly my father, who was a certified public accountant, used to bring home spreadsheets and would actually ask me to help him with those spreadsheets and post his time. And it really introduced me to analytical approaches.
HARLOW: And her husband.
BRAM BLUESTEIN, ILENE GORDON'S HUSBAND: You did a great job, you know that?
GORDON: I've been married for 34 years to the same wonderful guy, and he's been a great partner, very supportive. Have you checked out Ingredion today?
HARLOW: They've raised two children together even from afar.
GORDON: My daughter had a spelling test, and I said, well, I'm going to be out of town, but I'll give it to you on the phone. And she called me and I actually was in a taxi. And so, I gave her the spelling test, and the taxi driver turned around to me, it was a woman, and she said to me, "I can't believe that your mothering in a taxi."
BLUESTEIN: She's so authentic. Even though she has all these degrees from MIT and she's done all these spectacular things, she's just a real person.
HARLOW (on camera): What is your best advice for a young woman watching this, hoping to achieve the kind of success you have?
GORDON: Move out of your comfort zone. Take a risk.
The big transactions are picking up, and so I think money's moving around.
Why not move to an area where you have profit and lost responsibility? Because that's where the longterm leaders and CEOs are chosen from.
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ANDERSON: All right. And next month, we've got more Leading Women lined up for you. Denise Morrison, who runs the Campbell Soup company, and Deanna Mulligan, who heads the Guardian Life Insurance company. In the meantime, log onto cnn.com/leadingwomen for more on our Leading Women series.
Well, coming up after this short break on CONNECT THE WORLD, the royal couple and their newborn son are happy and healthy and now at home. All the latest on what's been an historic day in the UK. That coming up after this.
And Apple's earnings. It's one of the most-watched stocks. Tech giant Apple just reporting its third quarter earnings, and we're going to bring you more on that as we get it. As far as I can tell, diluted EPS 7.47, $7.47, the quarterly numbers coming in at $35.3 billion. That is around the same as the last time. Profits down 22 percent. That, though, is better than expected, I'm being told.
CEO Tim Cook is expected to hold an investors' conference call at around 5:00 PM New York time, that's 10:00 PM in London, just a short time from now. In a statement, he said the company is excited about upcoming releases.
Let me before we hear from him and as we await to hear from him get to Felicia Taylor in New York who's working this story for us. How do you, on first take, read these earnings? Good or bad for the company? What's Wall Street going to make of them?
FELICIA TAYLOR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I'll tell you, what's really interesting is when these earnings came out, you could see that the after market shares were literally spiking, they were up about 17 points when the stock had really been trading up about a dollar or so for most of the trading session.
So, what people are looking at is the forward guidance, which is quite positive moving forward. Not great, however. What people were looking for -- and this is the biggest problem for Apple right now is they haven't had a big, innovative product since the iPad, and that's really what people need to see.
When are we going to see the iTV? When are we going to see the iWatch? That's what they're looking for from Tim Cook. We haven't heard anything specific yet from him, or when are we going to see that iPhone 5S? None of those have come out yet.
He keeps saying that we're going to see it in sort of September, October. Some analysts were hoping that we were going to see it even earlier than that.
However, the numbers have come in kind of a mixed picture. They were better than expected when it comes to earnings per share. As you said, $7.47 versus expectations of $7.32 a share. Revenues pretty much flat, 35.3 versus 35.2. So, no big surprises there.
But again, it's that innovation that shareholders need to hear. You've got to remember, this company is sitting on about $150 billion worth of cash.
Shareholders are looking for that cash to be returned to them or at least plowed into these innovative products so that they know that this company is going to be able to keep up that tempo that Steve Jobs -- and that bar that Steve Jobs set for so many years in terms of wowing the marketplace and getting Apple back its cool factor. Becky?
ANDERSON: Yes, absolutely. So, this upcoming conference call with analysts is going to be incredibly important, Tim Cook, Apple's CEO saying we're really excited about upcoming releases. And he says, and I quote him, "We are laser-focused and working hard on some amazing new products that we will introduce in the fall and across 2014."
He will be cross-examined at length about what he means by laser- focused, won't he? And about the new products, so we will listen in on that and report on it as and when that conference call happens. Always a pleasure --
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TAYLOR: Becky, the only thing I want to add to that is --
ANDERSON: -- Felicia, thank you -- go on.
TAYLOR: -- what's disappointing is that it's going to be a little bit later than shareholders want to hear, and they wanted to hear it sooner than the end of this year. So, that's the only thing that might take back the stock just a little bit. Back to you.
ANDERSON: Interesting. Very interesting. All right. Keep an eye on those Apple shares, and if you've got them, lucky you. You might -- well, they're worth a lot of money, aren't they? Very, very, very big stock.
All right. That's going to be a big story going forward. The other big story, of course, that we've been following here, the royal couple and their newborn son, happy and healthy and now at home. All the very latest on what has been a quite momentous day here in the UK after this.
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ANDERSON: Well, the moment many, many people around the world had been waiting for, the very first glimpse of a new future king, a young royal family just starting their new life together.
As we look to those pictures, that little baby in the Duchess of Cambridge's arms was some 28 hours old, and with all those cameras, here are the close-ups of the little prince. The eight-pound six-ouncer, third in line to the throne, doesn't yet have a name, for now the little one is just, well unofficially Baby Cambridge.
The atmosphere has been quite remarkable. It was wonderful to be down in the crowds last night. I was here with Kate Williams, and she's back to discuss all things royal baby. It was -- I was down with the -- the crowd, who were looking at the --
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KATE WILLIAMS, CNN ROYAL HISTORIAN: You were swamped by fans!
ANDERSON: We were swamped, but not by fans
WILLIAMS: You have so many fans!
ANDERSON: By people who were excited about being --
WILLIAMS: Baby fans.
ANDERSON: Baby fans!
WILLIAMS: Baby fans. Your fans, too, they just wanted to be in there with that shot with you, because they all thought it was so historic.
ANDERSON: It was. It's been a -- it's been a remarkable sort of 28 hours.
WILLIAMS: Yes, yes.
ANDERSON: For journalists who've been outside the hospital, it's been a quite remarkable three weeks outside the Limbo Wing as it's now know, or the Lindo Wing.
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WILLIAMS: That's a good name.
ANDERSON: What are your thoughts?
WILLIAMS: Well, obviously, it's been a really exciting time. We have been waiting quite a long time for this child. What's really interesting to me is that the actual 41-gun salute we saw earlier, that was brought in for Edward VII, the future Edward VII, when he was born to Queen Victoria.
When he was born, he was the first heir born to reigning monarch for 80 years. They were terribly excited he was a boy. He had an older sister, but there's no gun salute for her.
So, over and over through history, we just want a boy, that's all we want. Henry VIII, of course, left the church of Rome for a boy. But it was slightly different this time around. Some people -- well, obviously, everyone was thrilled.
ANDERSON: Yes.
WILLIAMS: But there was a certain degree of people maybe thinking it might have been quite fun to have a girl.
ANDERSON: Many people rooting for a girl, not least because the succession laws, of course, are in the throes of being changed, and she might one day have been a queen of this country.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
ANDERSON: Let's be quite frank about this. It's going to be some time before that little baby takes over. Queen Elizabeth is here tonight - -
WILLIAMS: Yes.
ANDERSON: -- still installed as queen. Prince Charles could be George VII going forward. Then there's William. There's a long way to go.
WILLIAMS: Right.
ANDERSON: This little nipper's only 28 hours old.
WILLIAMS: He's a little nipper.
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WILLIAMS: You're so right, Becky. It's a long way to go, and the queen will never abdicate. People ask me this. It's never going to happen. She said herself if she has her mind, even if she is bedridden, she will continue to govern.
To her, it's a duty. It's not -- many of our European royals have abdicated. That's not going to happen. She wants to stay in the job, so Charles is then going to take over, then William, and then this baby may not come to the throne until the 22nd century. So, who knows? They may teleport themselves around the country rather than traveling on the royal train. I can't imagine.
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ANDERSON: Do they still do that?
WILLIAMS: They use the royal train.
ANDERSON: And then, when she goes up to Balmoral at the end of the week, which is, I know, what Queen Elizabeth II's plans are, and she's famously said last week, let's hope this baby hurries up because I want to go on holiday.
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WILLIAMS: So I can go on holiday!
ANDERSON: They still use the royal train, do they?
WILLIAMS: They do use the royal train. They're very fond of the royal train, yes. They -- the royals love traveling by these great trains. And the queen herself, when she was a young princess, that was her father's idea about how to get away from Prince Philip, take her on a long train journey around South Africa. Didn't work.
ANDERSON: Lovely. Born to a life of palaces and privilege, the newest addition the British royal family also faces challenges. Can he enjoy something of a normal childhood?
CNN's royal correspondent Max Foster shows us how the monarchy has changed and what this heir to the throne might expect before becoming king. That's "The Royals: A New Prince," tomorrow night at 9:30 right here on CONNECT THE WORLD.
Well, it's been a marathon, not a sprint, for many of the reporters covering the royal baby story. You had the long periods with no news which, quite frankly, got a little boring, and you had the exciting times with so much news it seemed overwhelming. And sometimes, the combination of the two proved, well, just hilarious. Jeanne Moos with more.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The duchess may have delivered the baby, but the news was delivered mostly via SmartPhone, eliciting an anchor gasp.
MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Brooke --
BROOK BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Yes.
FOSTER: OK, Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cambridge was safely delivered of a son --
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FOSTER: -- at 4:24 PM local time.
MOOS: And prompting confusion.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stop the presses, breaking news from London about the royal baby. Let's get right to NBC's Jim Maceda.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you white balance?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, do you want to come down the steps?
MOOS: The baby came, but not the reporter.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The crowd surging forward --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a boy!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A big bouncing boy!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's royal baby time!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just got goosebumps.
MOOS: What must have been a labor of love for the royal couple was downright laborious for the press. Days of waiting, and then finally --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kate's in labor!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kate's in labor!
GRETCHEN CARLSON, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: She's in labor.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Good morning, she's in labor!
MOOS: Some thought the press belabored the story, and critics hailed a BBC correspondent for his on-air candor.
SIMON MCCOY, BBC CORRESPONDENT: Plenty more to come from here, of course. None of it news, because that'll come from Buckingham Palace, but that won't stop us.
MOOS: The British paper "The Guardian" allowed readers to get rid of all the royal baby news on the homepage with merely a click of the mouse.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's on!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's on!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is what we've been waiting for.
AL ROKER, NBC CORRESPONDENT: And you know what's exciting? If the baby sees its shadow, it's six more weeks of winter.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kate did go into labor during a full moon.
WHOOPIE GOLDBERG, "THE VIEW": This is a live track. We're looking live at a door.
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MOOS: Of course, there were fake Twitter accounts written in the voice of the royal baby. "My first crowning is not going as smoothly as I'd like." And there were jokes making fun of the jokes. "I don't find these royal baby jokes very funny. Maybe it's just the delivery."
Even photographers hung joke notes on their wall of ladders outside the hospital. "Postpartum ladder sale." Royal baby trivia was truly trivial.
BARBARA WALTERS, "THE VIEW": Cloth diapers or disposable? Prince William was the first royal baby to use disposable diapers, and presumably, this baby will, too. How could you have lived without knowing these -- and I have more, but I'll shut up.
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MOOS: Forget having a boy or a girl.
MICHAEL STRAHAN, HOST, "LIVE! WITH KELLY AND MICHAEL": I'm hoping like the show "Game of Thrones" that she has a dragon.
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MOOS: Now, the birth of a royal dragon would have been news.
Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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ANDERSON: That was Jeanne Moos, I'm Becky Anderson, that was a special edition of CONNECT THE WORLD. Thank you for watching from the team here in London outside Buckingham Palace, it's a very good evening. CNN, of course though, continues. Do stay with us.
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