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[11:00:14] LYNDA KINKADE, HOST: On the offensive, Iraqi troops and Kurdish forces are
fighting to take back ISIS held towns in Iraq.
Their goal is to rid the terror group in the strategic cities of Fallujah and Mosul. The latest on their advance next.
Also, while thousands of migrants have been rescued in the Mediterranean Sea, there are new fears that as many as 700 people may have died in the
past week alone. This hour, we speak to the UN refugee agency.
Plus...
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KINKADE: One dating app helping outdoor enthusiasts find love.
Hello, I'm Lynda Kinkade live from the CNN Center in for Becky Anderson.
We begin in Iraq where government forces are inching closer to an all- out assault on ISIS in Fallujah. The troops are close to encircling the city and are preparing for the second phase of liberation, that's
according to the Fallujah operations commander.
The fighters have found underground tunnels built by ISIS on the outskirts of the city and say they were used by ISIS. Iraq started its
operation to retake Fallujah from ISIS last week.
Lena Khatib is the head of the Middle East and North Africa problem at Chatham House. He joins us now from London. Great to have you with us,
Lena.
Now, we know about 50,000 civilians are believed to be trapped in Fallujah and it's not the U.S., but Iran on the ground advising Iraqi
forces and Shia militiamen. How do you see this offensive playing out?
LENA KHATIB, CHATHAM HOUSE: The offense is going well militarily in the sense that at least one town on the outskirts of Fallujah has already
been liberated from ISIS. But the problem is, we shouldn't just focus on the military dimension, we should also focus the human dimension.
The town that has been liberated from ISIS, called Kama (ph) has been practically flattened as a result of the offensive and this scale of
destruction is likely to continue as the offensive, you know, targets Fallujah itself.
The other problem we have is that Shiite militias are participating on the ground in this battle. The people inside Fallujah happen to be
Sunni and they bear lots of grievances against the Iraqi government that they see as being pro-Shia and discriminating against sunnis.
So there is a potential social, sectarian-based tension that will basically be intensified as a result of the offensive.
KINKADE: And from what you have written, you can see parallels with certain Libya and the Sinai peninsula in Egypt, in areas where people
feel disenfranchised, where people believe they have been neglected by the state and it can lead to more instability, less security?
KHATIB: Absolutely. So, that's why I'm saying we shouldn't just focus on military gains against ISIS. What I've written about is that ISIS
takes hold of areas in which the local population has a sense of grievance against the government and ISIS sees in ISIS a way to exact
revenge against the government. And this scenario is present in Sirte in Libya, it's present in the Sinai area in Egypt, and it is certainly
present in Iraq.
So, unless those grievances which drove people to ally themselves with ISIS in the first place are addressed, we are only going to see short-
term gains against ISIS.
KINKADE: And looking at the other offensive in Mosul, the U.S.-led coalition and Kurdish Peshmerga fighters are working there in that
operation. How do you see that playing out?
KHATIB: The battle to liberate Mosul will be the most complicated of all in terms of liberating Iraq from ISIS because Mosul is the largest
city held by ISIS, it's three-times the size of Fallujah.
Fallujah itself is also much bigger than Ramadi, which had been liberated from ISIS a few months ago.
So, liberating Mosul is going to take a lot of resources, and I don't see that happening any time soon. Already, the battle of Fallujah,
despite the gains achieved so far, will take a lot more time than originally anticipated. The original timeline was two to three weeks.
I don't think that's realistic. And that's because of, as I said, the citizens in Fallujah, although a lot of them do not like ISIS, there are
others who very much are members of ISIS themselves, and it will be very difficult to, you know, gain their trust as long as they see the state
as an enemy.
And the same situation applies in Mosul, just on a larger scale.
[11:05:18] KINKADE: That's right. Many say they have to choose between the lessor of two evils, in many cases.
Lena Khatib, great to have you with us, from Chatham House, thank you very much.
More now to the migrant crisis unfolding in the Mediterranean Sea. The United Nations says at least 700 migrants are feared dead from three
different shipwrecks in the past week. Some of those on board were rescued. In fact, the Italian coast guard says it has saved some 14,000
migrants from flimsy, overloaded boats in the past week.
Now, senior international correspondent Ben Wedeman joins us now from Rome. Ben, three boats capsized in as many days. It's hard to know how
high the death toll is. Doctors Without Borders says it could be as high as 900?
BEN WEDEMAN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah. And it's very difficult to say at this point how many people died. Obviously,
hundreds have gone missing. And we need to keep in mind a few basic facts. One of them is that there are no passenger manifests for these
vessels, I wouldn't call them ships. And the whole operation is run by very cynical, obviously completely greedy and amoral human traffickers
who really are in it for the money and nothing else.
So they don't really care if these vessels they put these hundreds of people to sea on are sea-worthy. Clearly, they are not. And basically,
all they are doing is floating the barely seaworthy craft into international waters where they will be picked up oftentimes by the
Italian navy, the Italian coast guard and other vessels.
So, yes, according to figures put out by the -- sort of compiled by the Italian coast guard and navy, around 14,000 people in the last week, in
one day alone, 4,000 -- now this is largely the result of the improved weather in the Mediterranean. But the fact that the
weather is improved doesn't make these boats any more sea-worthy.
So the worry is among officials is this is really going to be a very busy summer for the Italian navy, the Italian coast guard and a deadly
summer for those people seeking refuge in Europe.
KINKADE: Yeah, certainly not looking good over the coming months.
Ben Wedeman, thank you very much for joining us.
Now, I want to bring in Federico Fossi, a spokesman for the UN refugee agency. He joins us via
Skype from Rome as well.
Thank you very much for being with us.
Thousands of people have been rescued. Just tell us -- break it down for us, where are most of these migrants from?
FEDERICO FOSSI, UN REFUGEE AGENCY: Well, the main countries of origin are still the traditional one of people who cross the central
Mediterranean. So we're mainly talking about sub-Saharan,and the Horn of Africa; therefore, Nigerians, people from Mali, Ivory Coast, Ghana,
Eritrea and Somalia.
KINKADE: We are seeing incredible images from the Italian coast guard and Red Cross of little babies and children being rescued, but dozens
have drowned at sea. A spokesperson from UNICEF, called it genocide at sea. How would you describe it? Is that what it is?
FOSSI: Well, this -- I have to say this has to be quite an exceptional week in terms of, you know, the intensity of the arrivals. Almost
15,000 rescued by the Italian navy and by the Italian coast guard and by the navies involved in the search and rescue operations.
Of course, you know, when you have so many people, when it is such intense, the crossing, you have shipwrecks and accidents as it was
correctly pointed out before, smugglers, human traffickers are more and more merciless, cruel. And, for example, if we see what happened in the
second shipwreck, the one which happened on Thursday, a big boat, a big fishing boat, with 500 people on board carrying another one tied to a
rope with even more, probably 600 people. And then, of course, the boat was tied to the first one that started to get water on board and,
therefore, the disaster.
This is something, for example, we have never seen before. And it shows that human traffickers are cynical these days because they only want to
make money, basically, they don't care at all about...
[11:10:13] KINKADE: I think we may have lost our connection there with Federico Fossi from the UN. We will hope to get him back and speak to
him at some point on this very important story.
Iran will not be sending pilgrims to Saudi Arabia this year. the state- run media says Saudi Arabia could not guarantee the safety of Iranian citizens. Last year
more than 450 Iranians died in a stampede during the pilgrimmage.
Lightning strikes in France and Germany have injured at least 14 people, including three children. Lightning tore through a children's birthday
party at a park in Paris on Saturday and hours later, lightning struck a football match in western Germany.
These proteins are giving Harvard researchers a new insight into what may cause Alzheimer's Disease. They are plaques that appear in the
brains of Alzheimer's patients. And researchers in the journal Science Translation or Medicine, say these plaques may be created by the brain's
efforts to fight a past infection.
Well, let's turn now to a legal case that's putting the United States in a pretty uncomfortable position with one of its key allies in the Middle
East. The highest court in the United Arab Emirates is set to deliver a verdict on Monday in a case against two American citizens, Kamal Eldarat
and his Mohamed. They're both accused of supporting terrorist militia in their native Libya.
U.S. president Barack Obama has reported to have tried to personally intervene when he went to a regional Gulf meeting back in April, but
it's unclear if that helped.
CNN's Jon Jensen is covering the story for us from the UAE's capital Abu Dhabi.
Jon, great to have you with us.
These guys have have spent nearly two years in detention. What are the conditions like? What are they facing?
JON JENSEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, by all accounts, Lynda, they are improving over the past nearly two years. I spoke with the sister and
daughter of both the imprisoned Americans, a woman named Amal, who said that consular visits are increasing and the family is now allowed to
visit at least once or twice a month.
But Amal also described the initial days of detention as a nightmare. Quoting her father, she said the first couple of months in prison were
among the darkest days of his life.
It started back in August 2014 when state security from the UAE arrested both men. She told me that the agents went into her house without a
warrant. They arrested both men, even locked her in a room for about an hour and a half while they confiscated electronics like laptops, phones.
The men were then held incommunicado for a several months.
Now, we have spoken with officials in the UAE who have insisted that the pair are being treated in accordance with international fair trial
standards.
However, the UN and several human rights groups have challenged this case citing credible reports of torture, Lynda.
A UN report published earlier this year described several very brutal methods in which these
men were allegedly detained. Amal said she was told the exact same thing from her father and
brother.
We should point out, though, Lynda, that the UAE denies using torture.
KINKADE: Right.
So looking at these two men, what else do we know about Kamal and Mohamed Eldarat?
JENSEN: Well, these are two successful business men in Dubai. Kamal, the father, ran a real estate development company; Mohamed, the son,
owned and operated for a point at least a number of Subway sandwich shop franchises here in Abu Dhabi. Now both are facing two criminal counts,
including engaging in hostilities in a foreign country, that country is Libya.
They are also accused of having ties to Libyan political groups that have associations with the
Muslim Brotherhood. Now that's a group, Lynda, you're well aware of that the UAE has cracked down hard on in the past couple of years.
The family, though, denies all of these charges saying both men were tortured into making and
signing confessions.
The question right now, though, is just how much pressure behind the scenes is the U.S. putting
on the UAE, perhaps commercially and militarily one of the greatest allies in the entire Middle East. Publicly, the State Department has
voiced concern though they have stopped short of calling for a full release. The family, while appreciative of the efforts, says everyone
could be doing more.
And Lydna, we'll all know more tomorrow. A verdict is expected in the trial. It will be the final verdict, no appeal, and if sentenced, both
men could face upwards of 15 years in prison.
[11:15:04] KINKADE: Some stiff penalties there. We will be watching it closely. And no doubt, we'll be talking to you tomorrow.
Jon Jensen, in Abu Dhabi, thank you very much.
Well, still to come, let the celebrations begin. If not, they've already already started, no doubt. Real Madrid clinches the Champion
League once again. We're live in the Spanish capital next.
Plus, football isn't the only game attracting millions of fans. We'll take you inside the world
of esports.
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KINKADE: And the Champion League winners have arrived back home. You are looking at Christiano Ronaldo after arriving with this team, Real
Madrid, to the Spanish capital.
Ronaldo fired the winning penalty last night as Real Madrid won Europe's biggest prize for the 11th time in its history.
You're watching CNN and this is Connect the World with me Lynda Kinkade, welcome back.
Well, all eyes were on the line yesterday where Real Madrid battled it out with Atletico Madrid in a Champion's League final. And it all came
down to penalties after 1-1 draw in full time.
Juanfran, the Atletico defender, missed his penalty allowing Ronaldo to fire his team to glory.
Alex Thomas is in Madrid where the celebrations are under way. No doubt a huge night there last night and some sore heads this morning.
ALEX THOMAS, CNN WORD SPORT: Yeah, I'm sure there are a few sore heads, Lynda, although not as many as you think, because there was actually an
alcohol ban for the 30,000 or so that gathered here at the Cibeles foundation in central Madrid waiting for their heroes to fly back from
Milan, which they did on the very night they won the European Cup, or Champion's League for a record extending 11th time.
So, the game finished before midnight local time here in Madrid, and yet the team didn't get here until dawn on Sunday morning.
But as I walk back through the streets just after midnight, I saw kids as young as three holding their parents hands, walking here, cheering,
cars are beeping, huge noise. Everyone was coming here to stand for four, five, six, seven hours, just to waiting for their heroes to turn
up, which they did in a coach to a specially erected stand behind us.
All the scaffolding is gone, and almost all the sort of silver and white streamers were cleared away. But as I walked here this morning, I could
feel the stickiness of the pavement beneath my feet where all of the beer and other liquids had spilled overnight. There was certainly a big
party.
And more to come later, Lynda, because in the next three or four hours there will be a more official bus parade, a more official one, going to
the Bernabau Stadium, the Real Madrid home stadium, where 80,000 crowded into it on Saturday night just to watch the the game on a big screen.
So, you can tell why Madrid is often called the European football capital, because there's so much passion here. And while Real Madrid
fans are celebrating, of course, for Atletico Madrid supporters, a different story, a third appearance in the final and a third defeat,
Lynda.
[11:20:21] KINKADE: Yeah, really heartbreak for Atletico.
THOMAS: There's no doubt about it. They're a team almost that are famous as Real Madrid in terms of those that follow the top European
clubs, which is many around the world, hundreds of millions tuning in to the Champion's League final. As far as a one-off annual sporting game
is concerned, it has more eyeballs on it every year than the Super Bowl does now.
But Atletico maybe not the super star team that Real Madrid are. They don't have the same resources that Real do. And if you speak to locals
around here, they say to put it quite generalistically, it's Atletico that's the blue color team that the team of the people, if you'd like,
whereas Real are the posh people's team.
That's a little bit simplistic, but that's how they described it to the likes of me.
And I know that Atletico Madid's, Coach Diego Simeone, who was a famous player himself and could have been the first non-European coach for more
than half a century to lift the European Cup is very disappointed, so much so that he wouldn't commit his future to the club for next season.
But his opposite number, Zinedine Zidane, though, Lynda, he has now become the seventh person to win the European Cup as both a player and a
coach. He took over midway through the season, really revived Real Madrid's futures, and although the club haven't said yet that he will
stay on, surely now as European champions, there's no question that Zizzou, as he's known, will be in charge next season, Lynda.
KINKADE: Excellent. No doubt the posh people will continue to celebrate later today. Alex Thomas, great to have you with us. Thank
you.
Well, there's another big sporting event causing attention, it's called eLeague. The competition is sponsored by Turner broadcasting. It
features professional gamers from all over the world, some of them just teenagers, who can quickly become millionaires. All this week, CNN World Sport takes you inside this new world of gaming. Here's
a preview from our Don Riddell.
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DON RIDDELLL, CNN WORLD SPORT: It's a scene you'd expect at any major sports event: fans lined up for hours outside, merchandise stands doing
a roaring trade, broadcast cameras ready for action and fever-pitch excitement during the game, except this...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a brilliant play going out...
RIDDELLL: Is a little bit different.
This is esports, the sport for the digital generation. At the Intel Extreme Masters in Poland, some of the world's best teams are going head
to head in games like League of Legends and Counterstrike.
And it's already worth an absolute fortune.
RALF REICHERT, MANAGING DIRECTOR, ELECTRONIC SPORTS LEAGUE: The most simple way to describe esport is that 200 million fans worldwide watch
it. This is bigger than the NHL.
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KINKADE: World Sports Don Riddell is with me now. Great to have you onset.
There are millions of people competing in this virtual world playing video games. As a World Sports anchor would you call this a sport?
RIDDELL: Well, hundreds of millions, not just millions. This is a massive, booming industry which is, I think we can say now, going
mainstream. It's an interesting question whether it's a sport or not. I personally feel like it's a moot point. I would say it's certainly a
competitive form of entertainment, which is becoming very, very popular.
But it is an interesting question to ask the people who play the sport, because to the generation that perhaps doesn't understand esports, it
gives you a good idea of how skilled and talented these players are. So, that's a question I put to one of the commentators. He's known as
Semmler, and this is what he had to say.
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Auguste "Semmler" Massonat: I'm tired of this whole comparison. Like, it's all -- oh, are we a sport? Should we feel validated? Or do they
respect us, guys? Be proud of what you're doing. What you're doing is incredibly demanding. We work 12-hour days. They stay focused hours on
end and it's incredibly draining what they do.
The demand on these players is insane. And then it's just the stress of SC when you're in a one v. one situation and the tournament, $500,000
may be riding on you landing that shot.
The guy, like I talked to them half an hour after that moment and they are still shaking.
They so like, OK, OK, I have got to calm down, right. They still have so much adrenaline going through them.
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RIDDELL: It's fascinating, isn't it. He's called Semmler, that's his kind of game name, but Auguste Massonat is his real name. And I called
him a commentator, he's a shoutcaster, that's what they're called in the world of esports.
KINKADE: A shoutcaster rather than a broadcaster, right.
So this is obviously a booming industry. How much is it worth right now? And how much can players make?
RIDDELL: Well, I think this is what is really surprising to people who don't know anything about esports, is just how huge these players are.
I mean, a 17-year-old guy from Pakistan has already made almost $2 million, and he's 17, right?
These players can make money in a number of different ways. Of course, they compete in tournaments and are treated like celebrities and have
million of followers on Twitter.
So, they can earn money in a number of different ways: you've got your prize money, a lot of them earn money on Twitch, which is this kind of
live-streaming service, which Amazon bought for a billion dollars a couple of years ago. You can be a player on Twitch, basically
broadcasting the whole time, and earn yourself and absolute fortune on that way.
Some of the eLeague players that I spoke to last week, the point was made to me, that playing in this tournament is actually to the detriment
to what they could be earning if they were just streaming on Twitch, you know, $400,000, for example, just by streaming games.
So, the sky, really, is the limit. And people within the industry are saying that now that it's going mainstream, now that the world is waking
up to this new game or form of competitive entertainment, that it really could really become the world's sport. It is a truly global game. It's
very democratic. There's really no barriers to entry. It doesn't matter what skills you were born with -- you know, basketball players
need to be very tall and very strong and very fit. Anybody can play these games. And because of the online nature of it, anyone can gain
access to it. And if you're prepared to put the hours in and train and become good, then the sky's the limit.
[11:26:33] KINKADE: Right.
So, given the millions of dollars that are exchanging hands, is there much regulation in this new sport?
RIDDELL: Well, that's the issue. I mean, the phrase you often here is, it's like the wild west It's still like the wild west. It's an
industry that has really just boomed in the last 15, 20 years. And there are so many kind of competing parties within it. For example,
there are many games within esports and they are all designed and owned by different game developers.
So, they have stakes. There are teams. There are players. There are broadcasters. There aer promoters and there isn't really a coherent
structure to the whole thing. And that is something that people within the sport say that needs to happen.
One, to protect the players, and make sure that they are looked after and compensated properly, but also like real sports you have match
fixing. You have doping. You have these kinds of things going on and with so much money being poured into the sport, they need to get a
handle on that. And if they are to take it to the next level for investment, they need to have a more stable platform so the investors
know what they are getting into.
But it's slowly happening. I mean, just within the last couple of weeks, we did have a new regulatory body formed called WESA, the World
eSports Association. It's controversial. Not everybody agrees with it, but at least it's a start. And it's the direction that the industry
needs to go in to get to the next level.
But I mean, it's got a tremendous potential.
KINKADE: Yeah, incredible. And so people can tune in this week to see a bit more about this?
RIDDELL: On CNN and on World Sport through the next week. We've got a five part series. And you should watch it. I mean, it really is
fascinating.
KINADE: It is fascinating. Excellent. Great to have you with us. Thanks, Don.
Well, live from the CNN Center, this is Connect the world. Coming up, a third-party candidate will be selected this weekend in the U.S. race for
the White House. We'll explain why Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have little to be worried about.
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[11:32:25] KINKADE: In just over two months from now, hundreds of thousands of people are expected to pour in to Rio to enjoy the
Olympics. And the World Health Organization is insisting that those plans should be allowed to go ahead, rejecting a call by more than 100
well-known doctors to move or postpone the games because of fears of the Zika virus.
Our Ivan Watson has more on this story.
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IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The World Health Organization is involved in a very public debate over whether or not
it's safe to hold the Olympics here in Rio de Janeiro in August, this coming after a group of about 150 doctors and medical researchers from
around the world issued a public letter challenging the WHO and saying it's simply not safe to
hold the Olympics here. They must be either postponed or moved to another location due to the threat of the mosquito-born Zika virus.
The physicians arguing that we don't know enough about the disease and that it would be irresponsible to welcome some half million tourists
from around the world here where some of them could contract the disease and then bring it back to their home countries where it could then
potentially do great harm, particularly in poorer countries with worse health care systems.
Now, the WHO has fired back saying that Zika is being found in close to 60 countries around the world and it is standing by its health care
guidelines saying that pregnant women should not come to the Olympics, and adding that people who do come here should confine themselves to air
conditioned residences at night. They should wear mosquito repellent and practice safe sex, because the virus seemed to be passed through
sexual intercourse.
Not much to be said for the millions of Brazilians who live here who are exposed to the mosquitoes that carry the disease as well as other
diseases such as dengue fever and yellow fever.
So the debate continues to rage around this virus and its potential threat to the upcoming Olympics.
Ivan Watson, CNN, Rio de Janeiro.
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KINKADE: Russia's Olympic committee says some of its athletes have tested positive for doping in retests of samples from the 2012 London
games. This comes after the international Olympic committee announced 23 samples from the 2012 games tested positive.
Russian officials say eight of those samples belong to Russian athletes from three different sports. At this stage, no names have been
released.
To the race for the U.S. presidency now. Former Republican hopeful Marco Rubio is changing his tune when it comes to his former rival
Donald Trump. Now, he tells CNN's Jake Tapper he would be willing to speak on Trump's behalf if asked.
But he has some reservations. Take a listen.
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SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R) FLORIDA: I don't know whether I'll have a role in the convention
but I have a lot of people going there that were supporters.
JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: If Donald Trump asked you to speak on his behalf, you would do so?
RUBIO: I mean, I would certainly -- yeah. I mean, I want to be helpful. I don't want to be harmful, because I don't want Hillary
Clinton to be president.
Look, my policy differences with Donald Trump, I spent 11 months talking about them, so I think they are well understood. That said, I don't
want Hillary Clinton to be president. If there's something I can do to help that from happening, and it's helpful to the cause. I most
certainly will be honored to be considered for that.
TAPPER: With all due respect, though, it wasn't just policy differences that you with him, you had issues about his temperament and his
personality.
RUBIO: Yes. And I say that I still do. I have real issues with the way he conducted himself in certain aspects of this campaign throughout
the campaign. That remains.
He's now the Republican nominee, or presumptive nominee and will be the nominee. And I think he has an opportunity now to enter a second phase
in this campaign.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: Well, while the Republicans and Democrats are still more than a month away from picking their presidential nominees officially, the
Libertarian Party is picking its standardbearer later on Sunday, holding their national convention in Orlando, Florida. A third party have
rarely done well in U.S. presidential elections, but a recent poll shows nearly half of registered voters say they would consider a third-party
candidate over Trump or Clinton.
Libertarian president candidate Gary Johnson says he's ready to take on Trump.
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GARY JOHNSON, LIBERTARIAN PARTY NOMINEE: You know, I really don't even want to comment on Donald Trump. I really don't. I really think that
when Donald Trump talks about deporting 11 million illegal immigrants, that's just wrong. When he talks about building a fence across the
border, that is just wrong. When he talks about killing the families of Muslim terrorists, that is just wrong. When he talks about a free
market, but he's going to force Apple to make their iPads and their iPhones in the United States, that's just wrong. When he talks about a
35 percent tariff that's just wrong. When he says he's going to bring back waterboarding or torture or whatever, whatever, is taken, that's
just wrong. He's just wrong.
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KINKADE: As the libertarian presidential nominee in 2012, Gary Johnson netted less than 1 percent of the popular vote and that was the party's
second strongest showing ever.
Victor Blackwell tells us more about what the Libertarian Party stands for.
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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Thousands are gathering for the Libertarian convention this weekend in Orlando, voting for their
presidential nominee, hoping their pick is a viable alternative for dissatisfied voters. But who are they?
JOHNSON: Fiscally conservative, socially liberty. And hey, when it comes to these military interventions, I'm a real skeptic.
BLACKWELL: Gary Johnson, former New Mexico governor, the frontrunner for the Libertarian nomination.
JOHNSON: I am all about smaller government. I think government tries to do too much and in the process it taxes too much. Living your life,
personal freedom, I think most Republicans fall in that category. I think most Americans fall in that category.
BLACKWELL: The platform a mix of ideas from each side of the political aisle. Pro-gay marriage and decriminalization of most if not all drugs
in favor of slashing government benefits and reducing economic regulations. Their appeal taking hold. The party says they are seeing a
30 percent spike in membership. And the new poll shows Johnson with 10 percent support across the country. He needs just 15 percent to earn a
spot at the national debate podium next to the Republican and Democratic nominees.
JOHNSON: Just appearing in the polls I think has a self-fulfilling prophecy of what is this guy really saying? If I'm the nominee, I'm
going to be the only candidate on the ballot in all 50 states.
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KINKADE: Well, that was CNN's Victor Blackwell reporting there.
Analysts say the Libertarian ticket could siphon votes from both Republicans and Democrats who don't like Donald Trump or Hillary
Clinton.
Well, there's a lot to talk about there. CNN political analyst Josh Rogin joins me now from Washington. Great to have you with me, Josh.
Interesting to note that half of registered voters right now would consider a third-party candidate over what is currently on offer from
the major parties. What does that mean for the Libertarians? Can they capitalize on this?
JOSH ROGIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right. Well, I think those poll numbers reflect the deep dissatisfaction with both of the leading party --
leading candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. They both have very high negative ratings. They both have big problems with big swaths
of the electorate, yet there's no real evidence that Gary Johnson and the Libertarian -- if he becomes the Libertarian nominee is going to be
able to capitalize on that in any real way, right.
He simply doesn't have the organization, he doesn't have the money, doesn't have the support, and the Libertarian Party has never proven
itself to be a contender in these types of situations.
Now, we've had third-party presidential candidates who have made a big difference in the
past: Ross Perot in 1992, Ralph Nader in 2000, but this is not that year. I think what people are looking at is a very contentious and ugly
and painful general election coming up and they see this sort of discussion of Gary Johnson and his running mate as sort of a palate
cleanser, an amuse bouche, if you will, to sort of set -- allow people to have a pause before the main course, which would be the Trump/Clinton
showdown.
KINKADE: ...main course, I like how you put that.
And looking at the Trump camp, there seems to be a lot of turmoil at the top of his campaign with the firing of his political director last week.
What are people in D.C. saying about his style of management?
ROGIN: Right, this is the big story in D.C. all week. Rick Wiley, who was previously the campaign manager for Governor Scott Walker, was
hired to be the national political director on the Trump campaign and then fired only six weeks later. He was wrapped up in a war between the
campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski and the campaign chairman Paul Manafort. And while Lewandowski seems to have won this battle, that war
rages on inside the Trump campaign. They simply can't come to a unified strategy for how to take this really ragtag tiny operation and expand it
and build it into a national political infrastructure that can take on the Clinton machine.
It speaks to Trump's management style because he makes all of these decisions himself and he is very personal and if he likes you, then you
are at the top and you're in the inner circle, and if you fallout of Donald Trump's favor, you are gone. And that speaks to how he might
govern if he were elected president.
KINKADE: Absolutely.
Looking at Clinton and Sanders, they are both neck-and-neck in the polls for the upcoming California primary. But as Trump pointed out a few
days ago, Hillary Clinton has bigger problems right now. The State Department found -- the office of the inspector general found she
violated federal rules by using a private email server. How much do voters care about
this issue?
ROGIN: Right. Well, we can say that Democratic voters care less about the email issue itself, Republican voters care more about it. That's
why you see Bernie Sanders reluctant to really speak about this in the context of the primary.
At the same time, we find that Hillary clinton's main vulnerability is that she scores horribly when asked about her honesty and
trustworthiness. And as in most scandals in Washington, it's really not about the action, it's about the reaction. And Hillary Clinton's
response to this drip, drip, drip of bad information about how she mishandled her email situation has been equivocating, defensive,
sometimes conciliatory, sometimes very angry and voters don't like that and that hurts her overall effort to prove to them that she can change
the sort of narrative that she's not honest and trustworthy with the voters.
KINKADE: No doubt she regrets that move every day this story comes up.
Josh Rogin, great to have you with us. Thanks so much.
ROGIN: Thank you.
KINKADE: Well, it's not often that commercials for cleaning products get much attention, but
people in social media have been fired up over an offensive ad for a Chinese laundry detergent. Some are calling it the most racist ad ever.
Matt Rivers shows us why.
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MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, this advertisement has created quite the storm here in China with many people online calling the
commercial for a type of laundry detergent unequivocally racist. And once you see it, it's not hard to see why.
The ad features a Chinese woman and black man flirting. He strides over to her and when he leans in for a kiss she pops as detergent capsule
into his mouth. Then she throws him into the machine. Just for a bit. And when she opens the washing machine a bit later, a smiling Chinese
man pops out to the woman's apparent delight.
It is incredibly offensive and has sparked backlash across the world an on Chinese social media.
One user wrote, quote, "my god, don't Chinese marketing people get any education about race?"
Another wrote, quote, "if you don't understand why it's, congratulations, you're a racist."s
The ad appears to by a blatant rip-off of a similarly criticized Italian laundry commercial from the mid-2000s. A slim Italian man is washed
with, quote, color deterring and emerges a muscular black man with the slogan, quote, "color is better."
A large number of Africans live here in China, particularly in the southern province of Guangdong. And there have long have been
complaints of prejudice against people with darker skin across the country. CNN reached out to the company behind the ad, Xiabi (ph), but
received no response.
Matt Rivers, CNN, Beijing.
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[11:44:59] KINKADE: Well, you are watching Connect the World. Still to come, British voters have a big choice ahead, but it may effect some of
the people who work here the most. Our Erin McLaughlin talks Brexit with British members of the European Parliament.
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KINKADE: Welcome back. You're watching CNN. And this is Connect the World with me Lynda Kinkade.
People across Britain will decide on June 23 whether their country stays in the European Union. The so-called Brexit debate has consumed the
country, but as our Erin McLaughlin reports, she's found that the debate is raging behind the scenes straight from the European parliament. Take
a look.
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ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union? The answer to that
question rests with the British people, but will no doubt have a huge impact here, the heart of the European capital.
We're here to put that to two British members of the European parliament on opposite sides of the debate.
DAVID CAMPBELL BANNERMAN, BRITISH EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT MEMBER: I want the UK to leave the European Union in order to take back control of our
own country.
RICHARD HOWITT, BRITISH EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT MEMBER: And I think Britain should remain in the European Union because all of our history has been
about engagement in Europe to end war, to promote peace and to promote prosperity for our people.
MCLAUGHLIN: This is the European Commission, the executive arm of the EU, where legislation is proposed and enforced. What does that mean to
you?
BANNERMAN: To me, this is unaccountable, undemocratic and this is where the power is. It's not with our Westminster Parliament anymore, it's
here.
HOWITT: They are professional civil servants doing a very important job. And the French, the Germans, the Spanish, the Italians, they are
proud of their countries. They control their destinies. They don't think that the people inside that building are a threat, and neither do
I from Great Britain.
MCLAUGHLIN: The European council set the political direction for the EU, includes heads of state or government from 28 member states. Are
you concerned about the influence here waning, are you worried about the EU without the UK?
HOWITT: No, for the United States, it's been very good to have Britain on the inside of the European Union because on an issue like the
invasion of Ukraine and the sanctions on Russia, we helped bolster the European position.
BANNERMAN: The point is we are not leaving Europe. A lot of people equate EU with Europe. It's not. We are not leaving Europe.
MCLAUGHLIN: Do you think this council is important?
BANNERMAN: It's important to the European Union. Friendly relations will continue, but
just in a different way.
MCLAUGHLIN: The European parliament is one of the largest law-making bodies in the world. How important is Europe to the British identity?
HOWITT: I'm English, but I'm also from the United Kingdom. I'm a European and I'm a citizen of the world. And I don't see these as
competing identities.
[11:50:07] BANNERMAN: This is all about creating a superstate and I think it's either we stay in the superstate or we leave and we get back
our sovereignty and run our own country.
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MCLAUGHLIN: A very softly spoken debate there with our Erin McLaughlin.
Well, coming up, have you ever been on a date that drove you up the wall? Well, it turns out some people are looking for exactly that.
We'll explain just ahead.
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KINKADE: You're watching CNN and this is Connect the World with me, Lynda Kinkade. Welcome back.
Well, a frightening scene played out in front of a crowd on Saturday after a young boy fell into into a gorilla enclosure in the Cincinnati
Zoo in the United States. Angela Ingram from our affiliate WKRC brings us the story from Ohio.
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ANGELA INGRAM, WKRC REPORTER: A 4-year-old boy climbed through a small opening and fell roughly 10 feet to the enclosure.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was a lot of panic. We heard some chaos.
INGRAM: This is older footage of the Gorilla. Harambe, a male, who just turned 17 years old yesterday according to the zoo's website, picked up
the boy who was splashing in the moat. A family that witnessed it called it horrific. They asked us not to show their faces.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We knew he was being grabbed. The gorilla took the boy to his habitat and the little boy started screaming again and the
gorilla dragged him back again.
INGRAM: The zoos dangerous animal response team weighed options to save the boy. Harambe weighed more than 400 pounds, he could have easily kill
the small child. While the team was working to stop the threat, families nearby were wondering what was going on.
PATRICIA HARVEY, ZOO VISITOR: We love the zoo. It's very friendly. Everything is beautiful here. But when you see something like that and
then you have the disappointment because what do you say to your grandchildren.
INGRAM: Medics say the incident lasted 10 to 15 minutes while the zoo workers removed two other gorillas, Harambe still had the grip on the
boy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was down there and witnessed him thrown in the air and gorilla climbed up a ladder with him.
INGRAM: Ultimately, the team shot and killed Harambe, the zoo says it had to be done to save the boy's life.
THANE MAYNARD, CINCINNATI ZOO DIRECTOR: It's a sad day all the way around. The right choice was made, it was a difficult choice.
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KINKADE: That was our Angela Ingram reporting there.
The young boy was taken to hospital and remains in a serious condition. The zoo was scheduled to reopen today, but the gorilla exhibition will
remain closed.
Well, most of us have gone on a date and enjoyed it or maybe a dinner and movie routine, but if you find that just isn't cutting it for you
anymore, there is a new app that may be exactly what you're looking for. Today's Parting Shots, Samuel Burke tags along on a very sporty date.
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SAMUEL BURKE, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): You know that feeling when you lay eyes on someone for the very first time. But what
if it's on a date where you're all sweaty and gross? That's the premise of dating app Meet Me Outside.
[11:55:02] ROB HAND, CO-FOUNDER, MEET ME OUTSIDE: Typical dating is nerve- racking. Actually sitting down face to face interview style
doesn't help alleviate any of that nervousness or anxiety.
On Meet Me Outside, we give you potential matches every 24 hours based on your active interest like running, hiking, biking, weight lifting,
rock climbing. And once a couple matches, they can chat, and from there, we also show you activities that are nearby that you can suggest as date
ideas.
BURKE: Co-founder Rob Hand designed the app for people who are passionate about a healthy lifestyle. So we came to the great, well,
almost outdoors to meet up with Bridget and Todd on their first date.
BRIDGET FOSSEL, MEET ME OUTSIDE USER: I'm hope it'll be really fun. It'll be funny, and I hope that I'm better at rock climbing than he is.
TODD CARSON, MEET ME OUTSIDE USER: I'd really like to meet someone, you know, I have similar interests in and, you know, don't have to require
alcohol to get the conversation going.
BURKE: Revenue from the mobile dating market is expected to hit $415 million in the U.S. alone by 2017, and plenty of start-ups want a piece
of the action.
BURKE (on camera): How much do people have to pay to use the service?
HAND: It's completely free.
BURKE: So how are you making money then?
HAND: We hope that we'll make money off the advertisements of the businesses that we're promoting as first dates.
BURKE (voice-over): That's a very different approach from Tinder, which has ads and a premium tier with more than one million paying members.
Last quarter, it helped parent company Match notch a 24- percent rise in revenue to more than $260 million.
BURKE (on camera): Who is your typical user of this app? Is it like a hard core outdoor person?
HAND: It's everyone and in between. We have some people that are very earth centric and that like to be outdoors and be into nature. Then we
have some people that are really into fitness.
BURKE: So how's the date going?
FOSSEL: It's going pretty well. It's definitely a good workout.
BURKE: Who's the better climber?
CARSON: Her for sure. She's been doing it for --
FOSSEL: I can't feel my arms.
BURKE: All right, I'll let you keep climbing.
FOSSEL: OK, thanks.
BURKE: Do you worry that your competitors might just be able to copy the same exact thing you're doing and set people up on activity dates?
HAND: You know, I don't. We're getting that second generation of people who are moving past Tinder that are looking for something that really
pertains to their lifestyle.
BURKE (voice-over): Tinder now ha 80 percent of the market, eating into the share of big names like OKCupid and Match.com, which once
dominated.
So was it love at first climb?
FOSSEL: I thought he was a great guy. Really nice, very funny. Really good guy.
BURKE: And a second date?
CARSON: I'm pretty hungry right now. I might ask her to go get some food.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
KINKADE: I think Samuel Burke is a bit of a romantic. He seemed to like that story.
Well, that does it for us here at Connect the World. I'm Lynda Kinkade. Thanks so much for joining us.
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