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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The final result goes against all polls and expectations.
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN ANCHOR: Voters in Colombia reject a historic peace deal with FARC rebels by the finish of margins (ph). What a former FARC
hostage makes of this no vote alive in view (ph) coming up this hour. And, the fight for Mosul, the Iraqi troops are getting ready to try to retake
the country's second city from ISIS, live view in Baghdad just ahead.
Plus.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After refusing to release his tax returns for months, Donald Trump and his campaign defending revelations of the New York Times.
ANDERSON: New questions for Trump with just 36 days until the U.S. election, the spotlights on taxes as some of the Republican candidates'
information leaks out.
All right, good evening. Just off to 7:00 here in the UAE, first up, a key Afghans city may have fallen to the Taliban. A minister (ph) parliament
tells CNN that the militant group has taken control of conduced city center. Now, this follows a day of clashes after 100 militants launched a
coordinated attack and comes despite an offer by western forces in the country to help repel the assault. For more, I'm joined by journalist Sune
Engel Rasmussen who was in cover (ph) for you this evening.
What do we know at this point?
SUNE ENGEL RASMUSSEN, JOURNALIST: Well, what you said in the intro that there are reports coming out of Columbus (ph) that the city has fallen to
the Taliban, that they have taken the intelligence headquarters. I also hear that they might have raised their signature white flag in the Central
Square. I haven't been able to confirm that, but by the way, hearing that from different sources.
This is a city that fell almost exactly a year ago to the day in a surprise attack where the Taliban managed to hold the city for two weeks. It was
the first provincial capital of the militants managed to capture since 2001. Back then, it was a big propaganda, big treat (ph) I think now it
might also add to concerns that are already there about the ability of the Afghan security forces to repel large scale of fences from the Taliban.
ANDERSON: And Sune, why would the Taliban conduct this offensive now, and why would local forces not want the help and support of western forces at
this point?
RASMUSSEN: I don't think it's a question of local forces not wanting necessarily the help from international forces. But, the ultimate release
because they are getting that other places in the country, and since Friday, the U.S. forces have, for example, conducted six aero strikes in
Helmand province in the south which has also been under pressure. But I think the Afghan security forces do need to assert themselves especially in
the minds of the Afghan people. Last time, Kodas fell (ph) was a great embarrassment to the security forces among other reasons because they
simply allowed them fled the city without a fight.
So, this is also a chance for the army and the police and special forces to show that they are able to fight the Taliban on their own. The reason the
Taliban are attacking now, different reasons they're attacking many places in the country, like I said, also Helmand came under pressure from
yesterday. But, the Taliban have promised that they have declared that they have a goal of capturing one provincial capital before the end of the
year. So this might be an attempt to do that.
ANDERSON: Fascinating. All right. For the time being, thank you for that. More as we get it some background for you on the news. The northern
Afghan city is also a provincial capital and described as "strategically important" to the region. The city home to more than 300,000 people in
2013.
Now, the Taliban briefly captured the city as Sune rightly points out, just over a year ago in late September 2015. According to the U.N., not that
left (ph) nearly 300 dead more -- hundreds more wounded. You may recall a USS strike conduced last October in a hospital operated by doctors without
borders, killing 42 people including patients and medical staff. As I say, more on this as we get it.
Right now, Colombia is without a peace still and without a plan B. Only (ph) could go, pan was put debate but thin (ph) on historic deal, it was
supposed to end the five-decade old conflict between the government and what are known as FARC rebels.
[00:05:02] But on Sunday, Colombians voted to reject that deal and what took four years to negotiate came undone by the narrowest of margins. The
result has stunned the country's political process and now forces both sides back to the drawing board. Rafael Romo reports.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
RAFAEL ROMO, CNN SENIOR LATIN AMERICAN AFFAIRS EDITOR: The final result goes against all polls and expectations. The peace agreement between the
government and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, known as FARC, was rejected by Colombian voters by less than one percentage point.
The opposition to the deal, led by former president Alvaro Uribe, was fierce and vocal.
Why, the former president questioned, did they choose to simplify a 297- page peace agreement by turning it into just one single question? Colombian voters could only say yes or no to the peace agreement in the
referendum despite controversy over specifics like a lack of jail terms for rebels.
The vote was also seen as a referendum on this man, Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos, the main proponent of the agreement.
JUAN MANUEL SANTOS, PRESIDENT OF COLOMBIA (through translation): The bilateral and definitive ceasefire and end of hostilities are still in
effect. I have heard those who said no, and I have heard those who said yes. Everybody -- everybody, without exception, wants peace.
ROMO: These people behind me come from different parts of Colombia here to Cartagena to say no to the peace agreement. Their main point is that they
are not willing to forgive a terrorist group, as they call the FARC, that has killed people, that has raped women.
There were multiple protests against the peace agreement leading up to the referendum. Just a few days ago, we ran into a group demonstrating in
Cartagena.
Protesters say a peace agreement without real justice will never last. But this result, they say the government has a mandate from the people to
renegotiate with the rebels.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are convinced that this peace agreement is not going to bring peace. We're convinced that it's going to bring more war to
Colombia because unjustice brings more war. We -- the only thing we want is justice. That's all we are asking for is justice.
ROMO: No one wants a return to fighting, but after four years of negotiations, what happens next for this week-old peace deal is again an
open question.
Rafael Romo, CNN, Cartagena, Colombia.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
ANDERSON: Well, let's get you to some of the other stories on radar this hour. Hungarians who have overwhelmingly rejected an E.U. refugee quarter,
which is a plan with 98% supporting the government's no position. The turnout was short of the 50% needed to make Sunday's referendum legally
binding.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel is being greeted with whistles and cheers as she arrived in the German City of Dresden. The anti-immigration group,
Agida (ph), marched in the city as Merkel and other German leaders gathered to celebrate the country's unification. On Sunday, pro-immigration groups
held marches which you can see images of here.
The British pound slightly on Monday after Prime Minister Theresa May laid out a timeline for Brexit. You could see the country leave the European
Union in 2019. Now, this is the first time since the vote that the government indicated precisely how long leaving could take.
To this region, now the Middle East where these images are a cruel metaphor for Iraq. Thick smoke choking its summer sky, it's just as ISIS' black
flag, it strangled the country's future. This is what the grueling slog to Mosul looks like, a huge battle for the city isn't far off now. Iraqi
troops getting ready to fight the militants in their last big stronghold before reaching Mosul.
Militants snatched control more than two years ago and have been terrorizing it ever since. So the people there may now have a lot to look
forward to, though. Over the past month, the Iraqi forces have been closing in on Mosul, going street by street to kick ISIS out of town after
town. In many places, residents have poured into the streets to celebrate. But their arrival can be a double-edged sword with some rights groups
documenting abuses.
Let's get you out to Baghdad now and to Ben Wedeman, who is on the ground there for us. And Ben, let's get to this push for Mosul in a moment.
First up, two suicide blasts shoot Baghdad this morning. What more do you know at this point?
[00:10:02] BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, these are two blasts that took place, they'd left 10 people dead, 35
wounded, one in the Al Aman neighborhood and other in Al Mashtal.
Now, it's important to keep in mind that the Shia of Iraq are now celebrating the Ashura which -- not celebrating, commemorating, that is the
day that marks the killing of Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of the prophet Muhammad. So, there are lot of people in the street and also what we've
seen in recent weeks is an uptake in the number of suicide bombings in Baghdad. Observers, diplomats and Iraqi officials are worried that as Iraq
prepares and masters the forces for the offensive to retake Mosul that ISIS sleeper cells in Baghdad will become increasingly active. Becky.
ANDERSON: Well, Ben, during there -- the battle looms, we all told, what more do you know at this point about that march on Mosul?
WEDEMAN: Well, what we're hearing from multiple sources in Baghdad that it's coming soon probably within this month although obviously for security
reasons, they're not giving the precise date that requires an announcement by the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi.
But the pieces are increasingly in place the U.S. U.S. has sent in an additional 600 military personnel to help prepare runways and other
facilities for the offensive. But before all of this happens, there is one last strategic town in central Iraq that needs to be retaken before they
push on Mosul can begin.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
Occasional mortar round keeps -- as do a few blast of heavy machine gun fire. In the opens parsley populated plains of Central Iraq, pro-
government paramilitary' is with the Shia-led Hashed al-Shaabi or popular mobilization units wage twilight skirmishes with invisible ISIS fighters.
HAIDEEP SIHUD (ph) (through translator): At night, we always see flashlights and lasers says Fighter Haideep Sihud (ph). They shoot at us
from that area as soon as they come in range, we deal with them.
WEDEMAN: This is in the area which by day, Iraqi forces control but at night, ISIS taken advantage of the darkness comes in and the Iraqi forces
have to fallback in there isolated positions.
"Where is Daesh (ph)", I asked this Abesh (ph), a Hashed commander. "Over there, he says and we'll boil them if they come here".
WEDEMAN: Hashed is preparing to lead an offensive from these remote areas against the town of Hawija, an ISIS stronghold that is featured in many
propaganda videos. Hawija is parlously closed to main highway linking Baghdad with Mosul, a critical supply line as preparations accelerate for
the larger battle to liberate Iraq's second largest city under ISIS occupation since June 2014.
God willing when we get the order to move forward. We'll eliminate them says Haider (ph) referring to ISIS then only Mosul would be left
The Hashed al-Shaabi role in Mosul operation is unclear. There are concerns about Shia-led force entering the predominantly Sunni city. Last
month, Hadi Al-Amiri a Hashed leader insisted his force will play a key role and that battle is well.
"We will participate in the operation to liberate Mosul like it or not", said Al-Amiri at the recent pried by his troops. "No one can stop us.
More battles to come, land of seemingly endless war".
And referring to the Mosul operation, the diplomats say, aid workers and others are alarmed that the prospect of what this operation will mean.
Militarily it's one thing but, Becky, they're very worried about a flood, hundreds of thousands up to perhaps a million refugees fleeing Mosul out
into the open desert, desperate for shelter, food and medical assistance. So, it's going to be a tough rough operation. Becky.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
ANDERSON: Yes, all right. Ben, thank you for that, Ben Wedeman out of Baghdad for you this evening.
[00:15:01] Well to the Caribbean now where time quickly running out for those seeking safety from what is a formidable hurricane, the latest
advisory issue just moments ago shows Hurricane Matthew gaining strength from the past four hours with maximum sustained wind speeds to 220
kilometers an hour.
The first rain bands already flooding Jamaica. There was a lot of concern about Haiti because it's on the most dangerous site of the storm at the
highest winds and the most rain. And eventually Cuba expected to take a direct hit, that would be Tuesday.
Our Patrick Oppmann, he's in Santiago de Cuba, he joins us now live. Just how about how bad things expected to be and what sort of preparations be in
putting in place at the same point.
PATRICK OPPMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. Back in the latest advisory from the Cuban government is, you should begin feeling the effects
of this very large, very powerful storm later on this evening. And let me show you a little bit of where we are in Santiago de Cuba. The soundtrack
of the city right now as people getting ready, there are people on the roofs across the city trying to weight down their roofs to keep them from
flying away or taking off some of the fleams and roofs that could fly off and essentially become a shrapnel.
Now, behind this in the distance there that is Sierra Maestra Mountain. That's where Fidel Castro famously had his base during the Cuban
revolution. And a lot of people, thousands of Cubans live up there and they are being evacuated as we speak because they are in danger of mud
slides or being trapped up there for days.
And as you look across the city, it's a city that still under repair from the last Hurricane Sandy that struck nearly four year ago. I was here then
and the city was pretty much devastated, the cathedral and the distance there.
The domes were newly brought down and they repaired so much of the city, a 500 year old city, and it is somewhat terrifying and tragic to think that
in the coming days and hours that the city might undergo that same or even worst devastation. But, again, this is just the facts of life of living
the Caribbean, Becky. And people here are preparing. They are evacuating low-lying areas. They're following the government advisories very
carefully.
We've seen lines of people outside the supermarkets, outside the Western Unions getting cash from relatives in Florida and really just trying to do
whatever they can in an economically very, you know, scarce country, you know. The markets are on a good day usually don't had anything or much of
anything in them. And today, Becky, I could tell you as we speak absolutely there, people are doing whatever they can to get ready because
they know that this is a storm, the likes which they haven't seen in many years here.
ANDERSON: And I does see maps in a remarkable will. Look at the weather behind you that this clearly the whether come before that storm, the
preparations as you say in place for what could be really quiet destructive.
Patrick, thank you. So let come Tonight Viewers more on the fallout from Columbia's no vote, what happens now that peace still has been rejected.
We'll be joined by this former FARC hostage for her thoughts. And from tax record exposed so, what else does the New York Times have up its sleeve, a
little kin to that just ahead for you.
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[00:20:36] ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is CONNECT THE WORLD with me Becky Anderson. Twenty minutes past seven here in the UAE above global
hubs here at CNN. Let's return to one of our top stories.
Colombians aren't sure about what happens next after voters narrowly reject to the peace deal between the government and FARC rebels that would have
ended more than half a century of conflict in the country. Here you see some supporters were even driven to tears by the no vote on Sundays
decisions has left the nation.
In the president's own words, without a plan B and the government is now struggling with how to respond in order to save what was four years of hard
negotiation with the Marxist Mellicia Woofer (ph).
Some perspective, I'm joined now by Ingrid Bentancourt, a Colombian politician who was held hostage by FARC rebels and they author of "Even
Silence Has an End: My Six Years of Captivity in the Colombian Jungle" joining me live from a Paris Bureau this evening. And, Ingrid, thank you
for joining us.
Those who rejected this deal did so, it seems for one very simple reason. They saw it as allowing the rebels to quiet get away with murder. You
backed the deal. Why?
INGRID BENTANCOURT, FARC FORMER HOSTAGE: Because I think that's not true. I don't think they get away with murder. I think that they situation, the
political situation in Columbia is very complex. There are people that are very resentful with the FARC, of course, like I could be, but that's really
have their business, and their activity, and their political power links to the war.
So, I see it more like a draw. I mean, between the yes and the no in this referendum, it was just one percentage of spread. It's very small spread.
And what I could say is that there's no turn back from peace. We now touched the end of the war, and been to know, this generation knows that
it's just there. We need to find a way to make it legal. And that's what at stake right now.
ANDERSON: Many people who wanted to vote or voted remain during the Brexit referendum talked about the curse of the yes, no referendum. Was there
another way of going about getting this deal signed, sealed and delivered do you think? That might have avoided this period. Because, as there
president points out, he has no plan B at this point.
BETANCOURT: Yes, that's true and in fact, it was a discussion. The president wanted the referendum like Cameron did in Britain for the same
reasons to have a political, you know, space but he lost.
There were other options. One is to have a new constituency. The other was to give through the Congress special powers to the president in order
to achieve and to enact the peace agreement.
Now, they have to make an agreement, the political agreement probably with the Congress also with the constitutional board in order to see what can be
done directly through the power of the president and what has from that agreement to go through Congress.
ANDERSON: So, the former President Uribe, he wasn't opposed to the deal in principle but was opposed to the details of the deal. So, then he wanted
and I quote "political pluralism" which can't be perceived as a reward for crimes committed, social justice without risk to honest enterprise.
You spent some years as a hostage. You have forgiven to one intensive some purposes but do you and you voted effectively or you wanted to see this,
this deal rectified? Do you understand what the former president means that you sympathize with those who voted no?
[00:25:01] BENTANCOURT: Well, we have different points of view. I think that he wants to push the deal to a breaking point. And for me, what we
need to do is to have an agreement to end the war. And you see that problem is of the FARC that people we're dealing with are not defeated.
It's an organization that has military power, 8,000 men armed to the teeth with the possibility of harming Colombians and killing people.
So when they decided to surrender their weapons, when they decide to go and confront a tribunal, and to confess their crimes, and to accept some kind
of a sentence, it's a negotiation. It's not like they were arrested by the police. And I think that we need to be very wise in order to not push them
to the point where they are just going to say, "Well, we don't want this deal. We're going to go back to the jungle and we'll continue fighting."
ANDERSON: Let's hear from the FARC leader then, Timoleon Timochenko Jimenez, here he is reacting to Sunday night's referendum result. You may
have heard this but this is for the purposes of our viewers. Just have a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TIMOLEON JIMENEZ, FRAC LEADER (through translation): The people's army, FARC-EP, regrets deeply that the destructive power of those who saw hatred
and rhetoric has influenced the Colombian population's opinion. But today's result, we know that out knowledge as a political movement is even
greater and demand for us to be stronger to build up a durable and stable peace.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Our viewers should also just have a look at this. Just how close this vote actually was with 50.2 percent of voters voting no on the
single-issue ballot, 49.8 percent voting yes to approve the peace accord.
How confident are you after what seemed like so much optimism about a future that was without this conflict? After five decades, how confident
are you that this momentum can continue despite the fact that this was a very divisive referendum and didn't swing the way of those who supported
it.
BENTANCOURT: Yes, Becky. I think that we all know in Colombia that this is now or never. At least for our generation, so we need to find a way of
giving to those in Colombia who voted no confidence that this is not some kind of pact that will make it easy for the FARC. The FARC will have to
give things up. The government will have to give things up too. And we need to find a way so that instead of having this polarized country where
50-50 percent are just confronting each other.
We need to have a way to unite the country in this hope for peace that we all have, we all want to have peace in Colombia.
ANDERSON: With that, we'll leave it there. We thank you very much indeed for joining us.
Before we move on, 0:28:38.3 would consider another very surprising result this year and that was Brexit. Almost every polster had remained as a dead
search win, didn't they? Well, they were wrong, all wrong.
British voters decided to go alone and get out of the E.U. as Ingrid and I were discussing. That's got many wondering about the American presidential
election whether it's got any surprises in store for us this November.
And that's how voters in America, Britain and Colombia are connected. Latest world news headlines are just ahead for you. Plus a New York Times
report reveals Trump could have legally avoided paying federal taxes for year but will it affect his poll numbers as much as the Clinton campaign is
hoping. We'll look into that just ahead.
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[00:32:05] ANDERSON: This is CONNECT THE WORLD. The top stories for you this hour, key Afghan city may have fallen to the Taliban, a minister of
parliament tell CNN, the militant group is taking control of Kunduz City Center and this follows a days of clashed after 100 militants launched a
coordinated attack. Intense fighting is still said to be going on there.
Colombia faces an uncertain future after voters narrowly rejected peace still between the government and FARC rebels. The result came as they
(shocked) for the government which in the words of the president himself does not have a plan B. You'd see the wind picking up in Haiti is a major
hurricane closes in the poorest country in the western hemisphere may not get a direct hit for Hurricane Matthew but wind and heavy rains could do a
lot of damage, Jamaica and Cuba also under hurricane warnings.
And American reality television star Kim Kardashian had now left Paris after being robbed at gun point inside her luxury apartment. The thieves
allegedly stole 10 million dollars worth of jewelry. She was in Paris for fashion week. Well, Melissa Bell joining us now live from the French
capital, see details, relatively sketchy, what do you know?
MELISSA BELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we now know that, Becky, she left. But, of course, as you can see the media interest remains unabated this
evening here in Paris. It was half past two overnight, local time that five men disguised as policeman made their way through the red door behind
me. Two of them made their way up into the luxury flat she'd been staying in and robbed her at gunpoint, tied her up into luxury flats. He'd been
staying and robbed through a gunpoint, tied her up, locked her in the bathroom and stole those $10 million worth of jewelry of which that ring
that we're now hearing so much about the Kim Kardashian's husband had given her.
And, of course, this raises also some questions. Becky, as you can imagine about how this was able to happen in one of the chicest, most luxurious
neighborhoods of Paris, (inaudible) and Elysee Palace in the middle of France's state of emergency with tens of thousands of extra security forces
on the ground. Lots of embarrassing questions for the police, and until these five robbers have been found, I think the difficult questions are
likely to continue.
ANDERSON: Thank you. Well, it's just 36 days to get before America votes for a new president, Donald Trump's supporters are defending revelations
about the Republican candidate's taxes.
Now, the New York Times the weekend said leaked tax records show Trump reported a $916 million loss. That's near a billion dollars losses in
1995.
[00:35:00] A loss so large that on the U.S tax rules, Trump could have legally not paid federal income taxes for 18 years.
Now, CNN has not independently confirmed reports finding. Trump himself has refused to release his tax returns saying -- so far he's saying he is
being audited. CNN's Manu Raju kicks off this part of the show with the details for you.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MANU RAJU, CNN CORRESPONDENT: After refusing to release his tax returns for months, Donald Trump and his campaign defending revelations to the New
York Times that Trump once claimed a $916 million dollar on his 1995 income tax return which legally could have allowed Trump to pay nothing, in
federal income taxes for nearly two decades.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's no one who's shown more genius in their way to maneuver around the tax code.
RAJU: Trump's high profile advisers responding by praising the GOP candidate's business savvy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's a genius. What he did was he took advantage of something that could save his enterprise.
RAJU: Trump himself tweeting that he knows the tax laws better than anyone. And he's the only one who can fix them.
RUDY GIULIANI, FORMER NEW YORK MAYOR: Trump goes around and says, "Hey, I'm worth billions. I'm a successful businessman but I don't pay any
taxes. But you, you make $15 an hour, you pay the taxes, not me."
RAJU: Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani defending the practice in a contentious exchange on CNN Sunday.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Most Americans take advantage of every deduction of available to them.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Most Americans pay federal income taxes, though, sir. Donald Trump apparently did not.
RAJU: Trump campaigning in Pennsylvania over the weekend lobbying unfounded attacks against Hillary Clinton despite warnings from GOP leaders
to stay away from personal attacks.
TRUMP: Hillary Clinton's only loyalty is to her financial contributors and to herself. I don't even think she's loyal to Bill if you want to know the
truth.
RAJU: And again, attempting to raise doubts over Clinton's health.
TRUMP: Here's a woman, she's supposed to fight all of this different things and she can't make it 15 feet to her car.
RAJU: Mocking her recent bout of pneumonia.
TRUMP: Give me a break.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
ANDERSON: I'm joined by CNN Money CNN Media Correspondent Brian Stelter. And, Brian, someday you spoke to the New York Times reported who'd
spearheaded this story. Here's Susanne Craig had to say about what the figures show.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SUSANNE CRAIG, NEW YORK TIMES METRO REPORTER: There's a very large number with a negative in front of it and it was his net operating loss and that
number told us in short that he had rocked up enough losses over the years to essentially move that forward in the future years and be able to reduce
his taxable income to zero so he wouldn't have to pay taxes potentially. We haven't obviously seen the future returns to see what he did with it.
But it gave him almost a million dollars of leeway in which he could have income that he wouldn't have to pay taxes on.
BRIAN STELTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT:: Are you have to -- having to make a lot of assumptions to get to this point where you can say, he may not have pay
federal income taxes for many years.
CRAIG: Well, you could say that he had this number that he could carry forward and unless he didn't use it, it pretty safe to say for at least
several of the years, he did napped to a billion dollars in taxable income. It's extraordinary.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: As you say, assumptions but no concrete proof he didn't pay tax and even if he didn't, it wouldn't be perfectly legal, wouldn't it, Brian?
The Clinton campaign and many in the media portraying this as a bombshell but is it?
STELTER: Well, what's surprising here is what's legal. And I think a lot of Americans are going to crash course in the tax code and how, you know,
the 1 percent, so to speak, can take advantage of the tax code.
Trump surrogates and supporters saying this is completely normal and this is how he should behave. You should take full advantage of the tax code.
So perhaps, this is the kind of -- and that's going to spur people to talk about reforms to the tax code in the future.
ANDERSON: I remember this coming up in this first debate between him and Hillary Clinton and he shrugged it off. He said I was working within the
legal system and that's how things is set up. Do you think all has this already affected him in the polls because this was an issue that came up in
that first debate. Will it affect the polls going forward?
STELTER: We always we see according to various polls have been taken, as the majority of Americans think Trump should release his tax return.
However, they don't think it's a top priority. It's not a top concern that there are policy issues that matter more to them and something like tax
return.
Will it come up in the debate? Definitely. So we've got a vice presidential debate tomorrow, I'm sure that Tim Kaine will knock Mike Pence
as Trump's proxy on this issue.
[00:40:00] And then next Sunday night, what a potentially so interesting about this town hall debate is that normal voters who do pay income taxes
could be the ones asking Trump about this issue. So if that becomes a question in the debate, asked by a local, you know, Missouri resident who
was in the audience, it could be really interesting as to how Trump reacts.
ANDERSON: Too more scheduled debates, we'll have to remind our viewers of that because they could just not turn up, right?
STELTER: Yes. Anything is possible and he has been complaining about the Commission on Presidential Debates lately. You know, he has said that his
microphone was malfunctioning the first time. It turned out there were audio issues in the room at the first debate. However, it didn't affect
the television audience at home.
So he is suggesting there's some sort of conspiracy that does stop him from being heard. However, he has not officially threatened to skip the debate.
So as of now, he'll be there next Sunday and then again in the middle of October.
ANDERSON: And meantime, the attacks on Hillary Clinton gets more personal. How much would impact is this whole narrative, sort of in between -- since
it were these debates having do you think?
STELTER: You know, it's indefensible what was said on Saturday night. He suggested without even a shred of evidence that Hillary Clinton has somehow
cheated on her husband Bill Clinton. Not a shred of evidence, completely baseless. I hate repeating it out loud because we're just perpetuating
this myth that Trump has brought up.
But this is the GOP nominee of the United States on the stage bringing up these sorts of claims. As you saw from Manu's report, he was also making
fun of Clinton having pneumonia as if maybe Trump has never gotten sick himself.
There really is a difference in the way these two candidates are behaving in the final month and a half of the election. And, you know, it seems
voters are noticing that Clinton is leading by a small margin but a pretty steady margin in all the national polls.
ANDERSON: Brian, U.S. presidential races wouldn't seem complete without Saturday Night Live poking fun. And, of course, the comedy show kicking
off its new season with its own take on the first presidential debate this weekend. I'm going to see if we can get some images of what we saw. And
it was pretty good stuff.
STELTER: It was. It was Alec Baldwin, you know, the famous New York comic debuting as Trump. People know him from 30 Rock and from movies and
television shows over the years. And Baldwin, his impersonation of Trump really one of the idea of Trump as an exaggerator, as someone who strays
from the truth.
So clearly, you know, Baldwin was playing it as a joke. He was exaggerating himself. But it does go to one of the core arguments of this
campaign and one of Clinton's core arguments in the debate last week, which is a Trump tales, tall tales and fibs all the time.
Clinton, of course, was a victim of SNL as well. Some jokes at her expense about how badly she wants to be president. That's been a theme of Kate
McKinnon playing Clinton over the years.
We know by the way, Baldwin has signed up through the election. So that means there's four more episodes of SNL where they can be impersonating
Trump between now and election day.
ANDERSON: Kate McKinnon and Alec Baldwin there, terrific stuff.
STELTER: It's pretty good.
ANDERSON: All right, Brian, thank you for that.
STELTER: Thank you.
ANDERSON: Brain Stelter, as I have a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you, sir. Live from Adu Dhabi, this is CONNECT THE WORLD coming up.
It is 43 minutes past 7:00 here.
The Taliban has just captured this center of a strategic Afghan city. More details on that ahead. Plus fears of violence sparking out of control
between India and Pakistan as they argue over Kashmir, now, yet another incident straining relations. That story all throughout this hour. Don't
go away.
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[00:46:49] ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is CONNECT THE WORLD with me Becky Anderson and welcome back. To a developing story in Afghanistan,
now parts of the key city of Kunduz have fallen to the Taliban just over a year after the group briefly took it over, you won't remember a minister of
parliament tell CNN militant group has taken control of the city center.
This follows a day of clashes after 100 militants launched a coordinated attack and comes despite an offer by western forces in the country to help
repel the assault. Also in that region, tensions rising between nuclear armed rivals, Pakistan and India over Kashmir. Late on Sunday, an Indian
paramilitary officer was killed in on attack by paramilitants. Now this is just the latest violence in recent days.
CNN's Ravi Agrawal reports.
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RAVI AGRAWAL, CNN INTERNATIONAL'S NEW DELHI BUREAU CHIEF: Indian soldiers run to take position and take aim in the dark. They've just been attacked
by militants. In the background, gunfire to repel anymore enemies hidden from sight.
As they broke Monday, India assessed the damage at its Baramulla Military Base in Indian-administered Kashmir. The attack was not the first in
recent days. Just two weeks ago, 19 Indian soldiers died in another shootout at an Indian military base.
At the time, India said it found, "Pakistani markings on the gear of the attackers acclaim Pakistan denied." Then on Thursday, India retaliated.
It launched what it's calling surgical strikes across its disputed Kashmir border with Pakistan. New Delhi argues it acted on intelligence showing
terrorists across the border planning attacks on Indian cities. Pakistan not only disputed the allegations, it took CNN on a tour of its side of the
disputed line of control.
Officials there told us another journalist that New Delhi's claims of a surgical strike were false. They said India fired indiscriminately across
the border killing two Pakistani soldiers. Meanwhile, a mixed arising tensions and exodus is under way. Here, a boat full of Indians evacuate
the border areas. Some 10,000 Indian Kashmiris are being taken to centers like this, a sign of precaution from New Delhi amid concerns of more
violence to come between the two nuclear powers.
One of the remarkable aspects of this conflict is how two governments have been presenting the world very different pictures of what's going on and
because access to the line of control is limited, it's difficult to verify the diplomatic he says, she says. So where is this headed? New Delhi
maintains that Pakistan has militants on its soil that are launching attacks across the border.
The question is how far will India go to act on its theory and what will Pakistan do in response? After all, both countries have been to war
before.
Ravi Agrawal, CNN New Delhi.
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[00:49:58] ANDERSON: Right. You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD live out of Abu Dhabi for you, 49 minutes past 7:00 here in the evening. Coming up,
one of the biggest football teams in the world, aren't they?
On that, Barcelona hoping to find their next Lionel Messi in Africa, we take a look inside their new academy for you.
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ANDERSON: You're with CNN. This is CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson. Welcome back, few minutes to go. The U.S has won gold on Ryder
Cup, the first win for the Americans since 2008, one in more clinched the victory on Sunday, coming from a losing position to beat Lee Westwood on
the final (green), the final score, 17 to 11. It was a sweet victory for U.S. Captain Davis Love III was the home when Europe fought back to win the
Ryder Cup in 2012.
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Patrick Snell: And second time player in the world and 9th on the Ryder Cup points list.
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ANDERSON: CNN World Sports Patrick Snell caught up with the team USA after their victory.
DAVIS LOVE III, CHAMPION, RYDER CUP: It's amazing. It's a dream come true. First Ryder Cup, I went out and I feel like I played amazing. You
know, I went out did my job. I got 3.5 points for the team. But it felt so empty because I didn't win the team event. And, you know, for me,
players as well, I did this week for them to put me out first to go and, you know, go and, you know, get the point, get the momentum for the team
and to watch the changes, fly hard like that and to get a point, it just means everything, so.
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LOVE: Support and, you know, celebrate and lots of fun.
PATRICK SNELL, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Your duel with Roy was epic but how does the crowd energize you, how do you feed off that?
LOVE: You know, it's easy. I mean listen to them now. And, you know, that sound was all week whether you got a good shot or bad shot, they're
trying to pick up your team and, you know, it's awesome.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's just very satisfying, you know. If, you know, there's a plan put into place and our captain took advice and listen and he
ask all the questions to us and sort of good leader to us. Ask more questions, gets all the information and then puts the play in together,
just like you're supposed to.
SNELL: It's been a fabulous year for you personally. What are you most proud of though about this Ryder Cup triumph for the American team?
LOVE: Just that, you know, we had a lot of pressure on us and we came through when we needed to. I have a great team and, you know, hat's off to
the others guys. They've put on a great show. We've put on a good show. I think it was a great week.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's incredible. I have to no words at this point. I still -- I don't think I've been able to digest what just happened in the
last week of my life. It's been so incredible to go from the (tour) championship where it feels like about a month at this point, it's been
like seven days. So, you know, I couldn't do more proud to be, to play with these guys, to play for these captains. You know, it's just been
amazing.
ANDERSON: Well, it hasn't been the greatest start to the season for football giants Barcelona. They set forth in the league after losing on
Sunday night. The club though has been built success by attracting the best young talent from the around the world. I'm certain Mr. Messi would
be a good example. And now, they are looking to tap into one more place on tonight's parting shots and Stephanie Busari takes her insight, what is
their first academy in Nigeria.
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STEPHANIE BUSARI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Tripping into the field for a different kind of match.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For one hour, you're Barca players, so enjoy.
BUSARI: Spanish football club Barcelona is setting up a training academy in Lagos, Nigeria. It's first in sub-Saharan Africa. Technical director
Bernard Filler has come all the way from Barcelona to train local coaches in the famous Barca style.
BERNARD FILLER, TECHNICAL DIRECTOR, BARCELONA. : I'm so excited that the first C.B. scholar in sub-Saharan Africa so we are really happy to be here.
BUSARI: West Africa and Nigeria in particular are known as the continent's football powerhouse and Barcelona want to seize that opportunity.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Barcelona is the best brand when it comes to youth football and Nigeria is a place where, you know, there's a lot of youth
football going on because of the (inaudible) are one. So it was just the only thing that could happen. And as I imagine (ph) Barcelona in Nigeria.
BUSARI: A marriage that will one day hopefully give birth to a future Messi or Iniesta.
FILLER: People here follows (a lot the Premier) not too much La Liga and it's different styles but we're trying to yes, show the people from here
which is our style, Barca style, Barca philosophy that a lot of people know about tiki-taka. All the people know Messi, know Iniesta, how they play
and what we are trying to transmit to that kid.
BUSARI: According to the United Nations and European football body UEFA, the practice of trafficking African children by some sports agents into
Europe is a major problem.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody can (inaudible) Europe is right here now. And we've got all the long table red tape that's been there, for kids to get
there and we've got all those middle men on the (shacks) they're talking about.
BUSARI: These young boys have come to showcase their talents hoping they will one day have a shot at an international football career.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I really want to play for FC this (school year) so I can find a way to be links to spin, to play for Barcelona.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Very few) selected to the next level. That will be my (inaudible) mood.
BUSARI: Stephanie Busari, CNN, Lagos.
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ANDERSON: I'm Becky Anderson. That was CONNECT THE WORLD for you this evening. It is very good evening from the team working with me here in Abu
Dhabi and others with this around the world. CNN of course will continue so do not go away. Thank you though for watching with us. See you
tomorrow.
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