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[11:01:18] BECKY ANDERSON, CONNECT THE WORLD, CNN: .Anderson, Becky Anderson, right debonair and welcome me shall also of course how right
here, right now this place behind me once you see how true that all these moments being talk about right behind me. Lawmakers for the first time
talking about this. Some 66 pages long and Britain's big plan to get out in Europe the so-called great repeal bill, but it might not be all that
great and in fact it doesn't repeal all that margins said its main job is taking nearly 20,000 bits of EU your rules and laws and copy and pasting
them into British law, all to make sure that when Brexit day comes, this place can keep calm and carry on and pulling that off is all coming down to
one person and guess what, it is not the Prime Minister, it's.
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.you got it this guy, radical and long gone King Henry VIII the British government on the September 2017 using his 500 year old rules to try and
get all this done as you might imagine some of these chap ladies and gents lawmakers, and parliament they are not that pleased. We are keeping an eye
on that we are also keeping an eye on a real storm. Hurricane Irma all out on the bottom right of your screen, but now we all and it's the political
storm here there is no one better to dive into the veteran political analyst Carol Walker, can we be a power laws being use to sort out what
happened next in the U.K., explained if you will.
CAROL WALKER, POLITICAL ANALYST: Well first of all I should say the course ministers are denying that's what that they are doing but what this is
about is the task that the government faces to bring some 20,000 different rules and regulations which have built up as the U.K. has been a member of
the EU over the last 45 years he wants to bring all into U.K. law so that there is legislative chaos when Brexit finally happens. Now what Minister
say is they count every single one of these pieces of legislation go through the whole parliamentary process we would be here years. So they
are saying that some of them they can use the technical term, a statute treat instrument it simply mean that Minister come way through without
bothering about those pesky MPC might one subject and what MP's are concerned about is that what they were trying to put through some quite big
things to do that and we will be like Henry VIII in the 16th century ruled by decree, because I will be bolded with Parliament and just imposes his
own will as he thought.
ANDERSON: Let's see how that great repeal bill actually get through this next Monday, look, let us face it, this is a big fat juicy divorce isn't
it? So no surprises all coming down to called hard cash, Europe recons written may have to somehow more than $100 billion obviously for London the
lower the better. For Europe the more the merrier.
[11:05:03] If Brexit campaign this, made anyone single argument for Britain U.K. to leave you're, a year and a half those, it was that it would save
the U.K. billions and billions of dollars a year. Will it, at this point?
WALKER: The simple factors -- is itself in this whole process we simply do not know. This is one of the really big contentious is used. Michelle was
the main negotiator on the EU side is saying, look, come up with a figure, tell us what you are going to pay, you made commitments part of this wide
EU budget for seven years, because of being bandied around _50 billion yesterday say around hundred billion US dollars, Britain is saying hold on
a second, how can we say how much would we would pay, when we don't know what we are buying into the end of it. We the U.K. and will pay what we
are legally bound to do and let us just take you through this line by line, David Davis said it is a bit like being present with your hotel bill to
come up with a figure to go through it line by line by line and say hang on for a second I didn't actually pay for the ball I didn't actually have that
meal they are not prepared to come up with a figure unless you go to wide agreement on what they are buying into and the problem is out of the moment
is leading pretty much stalemate in the state of those important negotiations.
ANDERSON: Well exactly a week ago Carol, Britain on the EU's top Brexit negotiators and spoke together and almost quite unbelievably it seems they
couldn't even agree on how much they agree on at this stage, have a listen.
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(TRANSLATOR): We will not be decisive progress on any of the principal subject. Now this week we had long and featured discussions across
multiple areas, I think to say we had so many seen concrete progress.
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ANDERSON: One of my brilliant producers put it this way to me earlier on, he said I have seen satire more plausible than that, will they ever get a
deal or in the end, because this is a possibility, will Britain just, the U.K. just trashed out of Europe? That is a possibility.
WALKER: We had five months in these negotiations, when David Davis said he has made progress, what he got is some assurances about the healthcare
rights of British citizens living in the EU. They got some sort of the deal in term of data sharing and they had some initial discussions about
the Irish border.
ANDERSON: In an enormous amount, you are absolutely right to sort out and yet it is possible that the two sides could reach March 2019 and there is
no deal and then Britain leaves and we don't have a transition deal and Britain then goes on to World Trade Organization rules, it is the same
rules which govern the relations between the EU and many other countries around the world.
WALKER: Yes this is fascinating isn't it? Because it is not just about trade although some people might suggest that it is about so much more than
that it's not just about is goods and services, it is about free movement of people everything that comes with that.
ANDERSON: We will leave it that. Thank you very much indeed for joining us. All this talk, King Henry reminds me of being right about his six
wives divorce, beheaded, died, divorce beheaded, survive. She did like to chop the heads. Also this man stood behind me earlier with a sign reading
quote don't behead our democracy, now just ahead as it works. Two MP's will leave Parliament, joining me here, once a Democratic guillotine and
the other as a jolly good idea.
Hurricane Irma is topping a deadly path of destruction across the Caribbean right now the zone spinning just north of the Dominican Republic as it
charge along towards the Bahamas and the US. The hurricane is still as furious as ever it is one of the longest and the strongest hurricanes the
world has ever seen still a category five, Irma holds the record of having 285 km/h winds for the longest time in history, describes to one resident
who has been in the eye of the storm as simply apocalyptic, take a look some of the wreckage she left here in Barbuda where Irma pass over on
Wednesday, nearly every building has been destroyed here in St. Martin. Those astonishing winds flatten houses and heavy rain flooded the streets.
Across the Caribbean at least 10 people died from these storm and now Irma's powerful eye is headed directly for Turks and Caicos.
[11:10:12] Well don't expect to move over those islands and part of the Bahamas later today, joining us now by phone from the Turks and Caicos is
Craig Heidi, he is at home with his wife Illanna. Craig explain what is going on now and how are you prepared and what are your concerns?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well hopefully I am prepared, I voided up the windows got a whole bunch of water, but I don't if you can prepare for a cat five
hurricane, so I don't know what to expect. I saw the pictures from you guys earlier and it was crazy. It is scary that is for sure.
ANDERSON: I know your wife or your partner was from the island you're not, you are a Canadian I understand this is the first time that you've ever
been through anything like this, we are just looking at some of the video that you sent in earlier today just describe the feeling as it were.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well it is not like the snow storm like what we had in Canada that is a little bit easier, that is what I am worried here, to be
honest with you. I don't know what to expect and those pictures are pretty life changing that happen in St. Martin.
ANDERSON: How authorities help you out? What are they telling you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: they are just informing us just to stay inside and buckle down and they will be shutting all the power off, probably when it
get worst so that there will be no fires or electricity that could hurt anybody so they are doing their diligence and everything is closed down so
we are well aware that there are no grocery store or gas station so they had inform us quite a bit on the radio.
ANDERSON: And before those stores closed down, there must be a lot of people stocking up.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes indeed and we are one of them. We went a couple of days before and we went last night around 9:00. So everyone was line up
with waters, canned goods, so everyone hopefully is prepared and going to be safe.
ANDERSON: your family and your neighbors, those who may been through pretty frightening storms before how are they?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They were actually hoping it would turn in the beginning of the week. Nobody was really worried about it. And they are
worried but not as a cat five and it ended up turning towards us and the eyes are going to pass over. So talking with my friends that had been on
the island before with a hurricane of category two to three, this is not just so everyone is pretty scared and we have a few friends coming over
that are low lying, we are EASTON: of the highest part of the ground, so don't have nothing to worry about flood, but just the winds.
ANDERSON: Craig, we had been watching some of those video coming in, somebody describes the scenes in the Barbuda as apocalyptic, I mean I just
wonder what you have a sense of helplessness because if you do what you can do right now after that you are just going to hold.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes you just got to buckle down and be prepared and pray to god that everyone survives and there is less casualties, very
little casualties. And I feel sorry for the people I might not be able to support as much as we could.
ANDERSON: Look out for yourselves. Our prayers are with you and stay safe.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you very much.
ANDERSON: As it is causing absolute havoc in the Caribbean with winds more than 285 km an hour, here is the satellite image of a category five storm
as it passes by the Dominican Republican and Haiti and heads for the Bahamas. Let get you then to the Weather Center, Jacqui Jeras has been
very latest for you. What do you got Jacqui?
JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: We got a new update on the national hurricane center update on those winds which has drop a tiny bit really no
difference though overall in terms of intensity had 280 km/h moving west northwest of a towards the Turks and Caicos it is about a 190 km away from
there and out the conditions will be deteriorating late today into these evening and staying we think quite rough all the way through the day on
Thursday now scraping to the north of Espanola, Haiti and the Dominican Republican are getting very heavy rain storm surge and also some strong
gusty winds, but the worst of the wind will be staying offshore in this region.
[11:15:18] So that the little bit of good news is now Hurricane watchers had just been posted for the first time after South Florida and the Keys so
for the US and the addition to this the storm surge watch had been posted while warning are in effect across the Bahamas, Turks and Caicos and we got
tropical storm warning for the fact that the northern shore of Cuba with the warnings here over the Dominican Republic so the track is we have high
competent and west northwesterly track as it moves to the Turks and Caicos and toward the southern Bahamas. There have been evacuations by the
wayside for the islands in the southern Bahamas is the largest evacuation that they've ever done trying to get people out because they are very
concerned that the elevation here is so low that storm surge to get very high and just in (inaudible) the region.
Now notice how this cone really spreads out with time as it moves up towards the US towards Florida and into the Carolinas so everybody not just
in Florida, but the Georgia coast, as well as in the Carolinas need to be prepared for this storm. This is the latest track of our computer model
for Casa, notice the knife equestrian here towards in the next two days, but then it begins to spread but we are seeing more of this trend ought to
the east, this could scrape up the coast or potentially stay over the water but either ways, the size of the storm is just enormous so we do expect
both coast of the beach will be impact regardless.
Here is a look at the two best computer models in European and American GFF and notice there just write together as it moves through the southern
Bahamas through the center of Bahamas over towards Andrus Island, then we start to feel a little bit more of a discrepancy on the exact track. It is
possible that we could get two landfall here in Florida and toward the Carolinas as well and we expect this to stay a very strong storm during
that time. In light with the storm surge, we think it will likely be highest through the Turks and Caicos and into the Southern Bahamas,
anywhere between 4 to 6 m of elevation of (inaudible) which is an airport there where everyone flies to Turks and Caicos is only 7 m so it gives you
a real idea of just how high the water is going to be and how devastating Irma will be as well. Becky back at you.
ANDERSON: Radar today and U.S. President Donald Trump is blindsided is a policy like accepting a proposal from the Democrats to raise the debt
limit. The deal keeps the government running for the rest of the Republicans 1 to 18 months. An update on the exodus of Muslims from
Myanmar, Humanitarian agencies say 164,000 fled across the border to Bangladesh to escape violence. United Nations says that may not be the end
of it, expect running thing twice 300,000 people by the end of the year.
Facebook has found its old political ads during the US election to the so called Russian troll farm, trying to say division among American voters.
Facebook official for approximately $100,000 to spent to 3000 ads. The top Democrats in the Senate that it's just the tip of the iceberg.
Vladimir Putin said the US should be playing to North Korea's hands by turning up the pressure on Pyongyang. Russian president said it's - to
inflate this military hysteria - international economic forms in (inaudible).
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(TRANSLATOR): With its actions Pyongyang is seriously threatening peace and security throughout the region, the Japanese Prime Minister confirmed
opposition that resolving the situation with the Korean peninsula, especially solving the nuclear program is only possible to diplomatic
norms. Above all they need to reduce overall tension then setup a dialogue between all the interested countries.
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ANDERSON: Still to come tonight, a viral campaigner to the worlds and allies -- war in Yemen, CNN met the little girl, he's tragedy captured the
hearts of thousand.
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[11:221:45] ANDERSON: Syrian military says two army personnel were killed when Israeli fighter jets fire missile at a military site in Hama province
now a former Israeli national security advisor tells CNN it was one site that produced missiles and chemical weapons this comes just after the UN
commission concluded that the Syrian government was responsible for Sarine gas attack back in April. Israel has conducted dozens of strikes inside
Syrian borders since the war began in 2011. CNN Oren Liebermann is tracking this and he joins us now from Jerusalem, just how significantly is
this?
OREN LEIBERMANN, CNN CORESPONDENT: Part of the question here is what exactly was struck? The Syrian military came out and said Israel has
struck the military site killing two Syrian soldiers. The U.K.-based Syrian Observatory for human rights said it was a military site that was used for
research by the Syrian regime. It was Israel's former national security adviser (inaudible) who said in the past it was used for research and
developing weapons and was still being used for researching and developing rockets missiles. He also pointed out that this is another level a higher
level of Israel's involvement in Syria's Civil War, as you pointed Israel admitted that is to say, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu admitted Israel
had struck Syria dozen of times in the past since 2011, but most of those when Syria has cross was recalls its redlines, weapons shipments to
Hezbollah in Lebanon or Iran trying to establish a foothold near Israeli territory that has been under shipments or convoys Israel is usually struck
this is different this is bigger than that, this is an installation facility research Center for national security advisor points out that this
is the level falls when Israel's redlines from Israel's perspective it's a different level normally striking a convoy or something like that.
ANDERSON: Oren Liebermann reporting for you. We will bring you a story now that is close to this shows heart, we are covering Yemen a lot because
there is a lot to say, almost 13 million people dating with more disease on hunger every single day, all in full view of an international community
that either Collins or won't step in.
Well now, one little victim has become the face of hurt nation suffering on the symbol of the social media called actions, a warning some images in
this report are discretion.
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ANDERSON: Her name is Hosanna, and she has been in war for almost half of her short life. A war that killed her family, a war is often called
forgotten. Hosanna is now the face of the viral campaign trying to get the world to open its eyes to the situation Yemen's children find themselves in
social media uses many from Yemen posting images of themselves in the same pose, the little girl struck when she first met local press, face still
swollen from the injuries this holding image was taken after an air strike, flatten her building, killing her parents and five siblings.
[11:25:08] Saudi's state media reported that this Saudi led coalition acknowledge the strike blaming a technical error.
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(TRANSLATOR): She looks for her father and mother, I hear her telling other children that she will go home and be with her parents. Children
tell her you father is dead and she says no, my father is in heaven. At this age she doesn't know what heaven is.
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ANDERSON: In all 16 people died in that bomb according to the authorities joining the grand tally of more than 5000 civilians the United Nations said
has been killed in Saudi Arabia and its allies launched their war against rebels they called Terrorist.
Later Yemen is on the brink of collapse, ISIS, Al Qaeda taking advantage of the chaos. Cholera epidemic is worsening, the health system United Nations
says is almost obliterated. 14 million people don't have clean walls of the country is common in people especially its children have water and the
country is famine.
Yemen's people especially its children have known immense suffering in recent years. But of all problems they face is the world's apparent
indifference that may prove the deadliest.
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ANDERSON: But so rare to get access to Yemen these days I am afraid. CNN get reports from the ground as you first seen there in our report. You can
read a lot more about hosanna and her family in CNN.com.
Up next, a landmark bill a key debate in the most famous Judy King labeled a lot in common with the future of one in the world's biggest economy,
negotiating Brexit, either world is keeping an eye on what is happening on the bill behind that.
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DAVID DAVIS, BRITISH BREXIT SECRETARY: This is a negotiations, it will take time on the directions we had done necessary to expect to be given and
taken it, that's close I can get.
KEIR STARMER, SHADOW SECRETARY OF STATE: It's not unprecedented paragraph ruled by decree is not a misdescription. It's in a front of parliament and
to accountability.
The name of this bill was changed from the great repeal bill to the E.U. withdraw bill. The world great should have been preserved but it should
have been changed to great paragraph bill.
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN ANCHOR: You are watching CNN. This is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson outside the palace of West Minster here for
you. Welcome back. Politics and Henry the apes, that can only be today's debate in the chamber as we just heard from both sides are the argument.
There is plenty at stake as I speak, they are very active in the palace in West Minster just behind me, for the very first time, lawmakers debating
the government's plan on how to leave the European Union.
The world is watching because a part of everything to do with Brexit is about immigration and foreign workers, as much as anything else and that
has a direct impact on the British economy which is the fifth largest in the world.
So if were considering or worry about why suddenly we're doing this, it affects our law. Some are being vocal about how to end the European Union
supremacy over U.K. law. They are talking about using power that goes back to Henry the Ape.
That king of supremacy but critics say those old powers just hand ministers a blank check to rewrite laws without review from Parliament, so this also
a big test for British Prime Minister Theresa May.
I wan to bring in one of Labour's Shadow Brexit Ministers, Paul Blomfield who is against this bill and you -- yourself have suggested this is a blank
check. Will there be no scrutiny? Why do you say that?
PAUL BLOMFIELD, TEAM MEMBER, U.K. SHADOW BREXIT: Well, I have certainly is. I mean it was first christened the great repeal bill and then
described as the withdrawal bill.
But is increasingly known as the power grab bill and that's not something simply laborsaving. It's something many concepts are saying...
ANDERSON: Paul, they didn't by any straights, the first time Henry the Ape, powers have been used before here.
BLOMFIELD: It is the first time that they have been use so comprehensively and to basically give ministers a blank check as you say to amend almost
any part of out legislation even the bill itself that we're debating today. And as many said on both sides and in the debate earlier, that is
unprecedented.
ANDERSON: You heard the (Inaudible), because I'm bringing you now -- I'm brining you one of our -- Bill Cash, very, very well known in the U.K.,
pro-Brexit, and you just disagree with, Paul said, why?
BILL CASH, BRITISH POLITICIAN: Section 75 of the (Inaudible), close of Henry the Ape force is they go back generations, and they go possibly
pushing them through (Inaudible).
And actually, there are some reservations about some of them. This idea that some precedent just (Inaudible), and I think Chris Bryant as well is
just certainly not true.
The fact is, there are pieces of legislation where you have the Henry the Ape calls for a mandate act itself. This is all far protected.
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CASH: I have to say because I'm a much bigger question, is the one I presented to the House this afternoon, do you know what the biggest Henry
the Ape loss is?
BLOMFIELD: What?
CASH: It's the European commission that itself. That transforms....
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CASH: You're seeking to undermine the -- in your recent amendment, the question opponent of sovereignty being preserved. And actually, there was
never a moment in British history which is great of invasion of Parliamentary sovereignty by county agreements at the time than the
European community.
ANDERSON: Our viewers are watching from all over the world. This will get very tricky for them to keep up but let's talk about the much, much bigger
issue here. What will Brexit looks like in two years time? That's really up to debate.
BLOMFIELD: But it is up for debate and that is the issue because we have voted as a parliament to leave the European Union. That's not on the
discussion.
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BLOMFIELD: I campaign through May but I respect the decision of the British People. The question is, how we leave because that wasn't the
issue, that was on the ballot paper.
Now there are those -- the bills are one of them who will leave at any cost. No matter what the impact on the U.K. economy and we're concerned
that we leave in a way which doesn't damage jobs and doesn't...
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ANDERSON: Hold on for one second because along the mess of the con is a vocal opponent of Brexit, a day before the big the big debate, he slammed
the leaked U.K. government memo saying.
[11:35:00] And I quote, it reads like a blueprint on how to strangle London's economy. He also said, I respect the outcome of the E.U.
referendum for the British people did not vote to make our country and future generations for.
An extreme hard Brexit which was rejected just a few months ago at the general election would be terrible for London and Britain alike. Bill.
CASH: Simple answer, the same fact is, this is just desperate. The truth is, if you look...
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CASH: Yes, I know -- of course he's concern, these are labour mayor, he's playing it for all his words.
ANDERSON: He's concerned about the millions of E.U. citizens who work here and U.K. citizens, for example.
CASH: Can I give you a very simple question to answer. And there it is, take you some employments. Now momentum in the Labour Party have been
staring at that all over the country on social media to get the young people's to vote against Brexit.
And cannot simply say this, actually use unemployment in Greece, Spain, Italy is over 45 percent and then now -- wait a minute. And they've
aligned is this, we an unemployment rate in this country of 4.5 percent.
The use unemployment is for my money to hide 4 percent but actually, when you come to the economy, which is what Carole and Paul are talking about.
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CASH: Wait a minute.
ANDERSON: Go on, very, very briefly, come on.
CASH: Take over when we leave the single market and the Customs Union which now the Labour Party are throwing doubt on and in fact the same they
want for practical purposes but then don't control your economic policy and you can't create an enterprise...
BLOMFIELD: Well I'm really sorry, the bill is trying to make this into a partisan...
CASH: Oh, it is.
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ANDERSON: Hang on, Bill, please.
BLOMFIELD: Labour Party concerns about issue. I didn't...
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ANDERSON: Let him speak, Bill, please.
BLOMFIELD: Give me a chance. And so be speaking for all of them because of the concern on the impact on the London economy and there are many of us
who represent other parts of the country who share that concern. Because bills -- bills and campaign against the European Union, whatever that cost
for years...
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BLOMFIELD: It wasn't simply the Labour Party, it's been institutions directors, it's been the CDI, it has been business, it's been the trade
unions are deeply concerned that if we stumble into this, chaotically as the government are the moment. If we make the wrong decisions, if we go
over the cliff edge, it will be hugely damaging to jobs and livelihoods.
ANDERSON: Do you -- are you bothered by the idea that isn't a deal cut by March 2019, Britain could just crash out of the E.U. or is that what you
want to see though?
CASH: Well, I love the word crash out because as a matter of fact, if there is a continuation as I said in some of the paragraph on line this
weekend and the policy of attrition which is being pursued by certain elements role in the European Union because I brought friends in very high
places.
And some of them says are with us, they are not saying this at the moment. (Inaudible), but actually the truth is this, that the policy of attrition
which is being pursued at the European Commission actually could be a prescription for walking away which I would not want.
I would rather that we were able to arrive in the free-trade frictionless straight agreement and I agree with some of what polls says because
actually the truth is, we all got constituents. And my constituents is 63 percent, those are for me in the general election, 65 percent to
actually...
ANDERSON: You put up the issue of trade and I think nothing is really important because pro-Brexit is talk to trade, trade, trade and how many
billions of Eurasia dollars we get back in the U.K. -- hold on, where we to pull out of the E.U.
In the run up, to today's debate, Britain's Guardian newspaper published what it claims, a leaked document revealing the British government
proposals to restrict immigration after Brexit.
I want to just bring this idea of immigration because it's huge. Run on the key points, proposals do limit the number E.U. migrants allowed to do
those skilled worked in Britain after Brexit, E.U. citizens would have to carry a passport to enter the U.K.
An income test could be imposed on E.U. nationals on the British government could strengthen its ability to refuse entry to E.U. citizens with a
criminal record.
BLOMFIELD: Well, this is an argument that cuts both ways because it's not only about the E.U. citizens in the U.K. it's also about the million
British that live and work in Europe and future generations who want it.
And I put to ministers this morning when we have to questions to them and do they really want to see British citizens who want to live and work in
Europe subject to sort of biometric screening, and finger printing and time-limited residence permits that are in these proposals. And I think
the British people want to see that.
[11:40:00] CASH: Well, first of all, I would say that there are elements in that paper causes own provisional hasn't been signed up by ministers.
(CROSSTALK)
CASH: Actually the truth is, there are some important elements and that it was a very, very high proportion. In fact I believe it's the highest
proportion of those who are imprisoned won't be deported while being protected by chance of fundamental right.
ANDERSON: There's a much bigger...
(CROSSTALK)
ANDERSON: We're talking here about...
CASH: We were talking about the question of whether or not migration is a good idea. Now it happened to me one of those who actually thinks
migration in principle is a good idea but it has to be contained in terms of numbers. And I think a fair role in the free system of movement to
people is the way to go.
ANDERSON: Last question to both of you. We've had talked here and lots of your favorite past couple of weeks, we are talking to anyone, and to
whether we get a soft or a hard Brexit.
Whether the U.K. remains within possibly the single market in the customs union, much of talking trade or whether we don't. Paul, what do you want?
BLOMFIELD: I don't like the terminal have suffered in hard Brexit, we need to stop in terms that people understand. But we need to ensure,
recognizing that the E.U. is our most important trading partner.
We continue to have the closest possible economic collaboration and indeed the wider partnership with the 27 countries in the continent we share
together.
But it doesn't mean that we shouldn't rule anything off their agenda. The government have made a profound mistake by imposing structural redlines
instead of labor's position which is to say let's focus on jobs, livelihood and the economy.
ANDERSON: It's getting soft, doesn't it?
(CROSSTALK)
CASH: I agree with all soft and hard Brexit. They don't really mean they're in control. It's about legal framework and about systems.
How I simply say this, almost (Inaudible) is a single market on this Customs Union, number one called and repeatedly has said, we're going to
leave both.
They're now changing their position to a great extent but when you come to the practicality, in terms of all deficits with the 27 member states all
trade with the other 27, we run the deficit, call it a loss of 71 billion by 10 billionaires in Austria.
Germany runs a surpass of the same 27 of 100 billion and actually America is worried about this too, that is why companies saying to America, you go
to contain yourself because it's the currency which is enabling them with a devalued, under devalued Deutschmark to be able to run on...
ANDERSON: And I'm going to have to...
CASH: ... an export market.
ANDERSON: I'm going to have to give the last word to you. I'm sorry but...
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ANDERSON: Live from them and thank you, Jeff. Live from London, this is Connect the World. Coming up, hurricane Irma has battered island after
island in the Caribbean. We're going to look at where it is going, next. Stay with us.
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ANDERSON: Well our top story, Hurricane Irma, is quite one the most powerful storms ever witnessed. The category five storm has kept the stay
winds or 280 kilometers per hour, in any other storm on record.
It has claimed at least 10 lives across the Caribbean with the Bahamas, Cuba and the U.S. state of Florida, still in its path, winds, and waters
crippled the small island of Barbuda wiping out 95 percent of its structures.
I'm viewing the devastation from the Antigua and Barbuda's prime minister called it, heart wrenching, absolutely devastating. Help is on the way
from the British, the French and the Dutch, they are coordinating efforts to get tent supplies and heavy equipment to areas flooded and whipped by
these winds.
Well, as hurricane Irma barrels towards the Bahamas, the prime minister there has ordered a massive evacuation, the largest in the country's
history.
Journalist Stefano Pozzebon jealous is in the capital city in NASA, he is really been that witnessing or at least seeing what is going to happen
certainly on the preparations size. This has been described by those in the eye of the storm and was nothing short of apocalyptic.
This is a category five hurricane which has ripped through the Caribbean leaving flat land state, flash flood, and loss of life. We are not sure
that we are able to get to our journalist there. Can we get to our journalist? If you can hear me, just explain what's going on there and how
preparations are going.
STEFANO POZZEBON, JOURNALIST: Yes Becky, all island is getting ready for these matter of in front that we expect to be in the next 24 hours or 36
hours or so their people, rushing up and stocking out on food, stocking out on clear and clean water which is definitely one of the key things that you
have to have close to you when hurricane came.
They're boarding up most of the window and sealing all the doors and getting ready for what you could be definitely a devastated impact, there's
been a hurricane warning in the southernmost six island of these archipelago and these island are being evacuated.
They put in display shelters here in the island of Nassau, and under further pressure, we're having people this place and coming in from the
outskirts of the archipelago, coming in here towards the capital and try to take shelter, what could be definitely devastated an impact, Becky.
ANDERSON: These are residence who are not unfamiliar with big storms but this is quite something is it describes as I said, by some who have been in
the eye of this apocalyptic. Just how concerned are people?
POZZEBON: People could not be more concerned, Becky. And as you as you said, these are not new to hurricane and to make things worse, some -- the
hurricane Matthew just swipe through these item last year again, and I've just spoken with the manager of the power plants union here.
And I saw the person responsible for making sure the power is effective and still going in the hurricane. Well the power plant building in this hour
has a hole on the roof from hurricane Matthew and they haven't been able to replace, they haven't able to repair it in the past year.
So that definitely (Inaudible), about what possible consequence who are coming here. And will there be -- what comes up with new -- striking
through, stronger and stronger in the Caribbean. What they are telling us, what else can we? We don't want to leave our lands. Becky.
ANDERSON: Sure, sure. Thank you for that Stefano Pozzebon, stay safe, and we're live from London. This is Connect the World. Coming up, this man is
visit to help Columbia heal after five decade civil war, that's after this.
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ANDERSON: Well, that's what the theme was like yesterday as crowd sprung to greet Pope Francis in Bogota in Colombia. The country trying to heal
from a five decade War.
Pope Francis must visit by making good on his promise to visit Colombia. Government signs a peace agreement with FARC rebels. Well now that have
happened he I there to ensure that words are attending to action because to quote, the Bible faith by itself if it does not have work is dead.
Let's go to our Vatican correspondent, Delia Gallagher is live with us from Bogota. Delia, what's the scene like over there and just how significant
to the Colombians is this visit?
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DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Becky, you can imagine which is the Latin American Pope in a Latin American country, he speaks their
language, knows their culture, the out come is electrifying since he arrived yesterday.
We rightly said, people are longing on the street who have kids (Inaudible) to give him hug, people get on the street, Becky, the important time for
Columbia as we mentioned because of the peace agreement that trying to reach last year that president won the Nobel Peace Prize for that history
agreement.
But agreement had created some division in Colombian society, some of the voters saying that it is convenient on punishment for example for in
amongst other things.
So Pope Francis come at hopeful times but a difficult time for Columbia and the Vatican has said that the pope is coming not to take side but to try
and renew society from the ground, up because this is a big country which I live for 52 years with the Civil War, dealing with drug trafficking
corruption and violence in the bank about times.
So the pope's idea is the peace is now written on paper and do live instrumental in helping that peace process but now the real work is to try
to write that piece as it were in the heart of Columbia.
So what we're hearing from the pope on all of his thought is about forgiveness of past -- forgiveness of past in to move forward and create a
new society.
Right now, Becky, he's in the main Cathedral of Bogota and he will be stepping out of the Cathedral shortly there about 22,000 people will be in
Plaza de Bolivar to salute the pope and it is the sign of the great warm welcome that the Colombians have given to their pope. Becky.
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ANDERSON: Delia, thank you. Speaking of the pope, hw doesn't have all that much sway here in England, why? Well, remember that guy Henry the
Ape, we were talking about right earlier on in the show. Saw into himself was he -- he broke away from the pope to make a new church with just with
himself as head of it.
Well right now, let's heavenly powers of visa being used to set up Britain's last day in the E.U. but boy will one day have Henry's job, the
king is focusing on his first day -- first school as school that it.
Young Prince George's first day at school, come on, even if you are a Republican or just can imagine, it is really cute, isn't it? While the
prince open the school books, we've all been cracking open the history books all out, we'll remember this day.
It is at great repeal but this place and country has given, the (Inaudible) are polishing slavery, crushing the Nazis in times for nothing beats really
being here but it turns out even some fancy new technology, you can get pretty close.
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[11:55:00] ANDERSON: Just take a look, you can take a spin quite literally around here until your heart is content, as you learn more about some
really cool places like say, the London Eye and what this, Elizabeth Tower, isn't that Big Ben?
Found out the difference and take a tour around Westminster with the man who knows this town like the back of his hand, CNN's Max Foster.
I'm Becky Anderson, that was Connect the World from the team working with me, this is Abingdon green outside the Palace of Westminster. Thank you
for watching. We will see you next time.
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