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World Leaders Commemorate a Turning Point of World War II; Trump Seeks to Clarify "Nasty" Remark about Meghan Markle; The Unsung Hero of D- Day, the DC Three Dakota; Trump Says Mexico Tariffs Expect to Take Effect Next Week; U.S. Republicans Worn Trump over Mexico Tariffs; Xi Meets with Putin Amid U.S. China Trade War; Trump: Always a Chance of War with Iran; Bringing Mental Health Discussion into the Open; U.S. President Arrives in Ireland. Aired 11a-12p ET
Aired June 05, 2019 - 11:00 ET
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WINSTON CHURCHILL, FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: We will fight on the beaches. We will fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the
fields and in the streets. We shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender.
FIELD MARSHAL BERNARD L. MONTGOMERY, 21ST ARMY GROUP COMMANDER: To us is given the honor of striking a blow for freedom which will live in history.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No I wasn't scared. Just thinking will I get through it tomorrow.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mass weapons and bombers and transports let the way. More than 11,000 planes spearheading the attack.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST: As if storming the gates of hell. This hour, connecting you to your past as the world remembers D-Day.
I'm Becky Anderson. We begin on the south coast of England where allied troops set off 75 years ago to change the course of history and liberate
Western Europe from Nazi control.
World leaders gathered with Queen Elizabeth II at a naval base in Portsmouth to mark the anniversary of D-Day. U.S. President Donald Trump
read from a prayer delivered by Franklin D. Roosevelt as the 1944 invasion of Normandy got underway. Mr. Trump now heading for Ireland after wrapping
up a three-day visit in the U.K.
He's been largely praised for his statesmanlike demeanor during the trip with one glaring exception. It seems political problems back home kept the
President up last night. He blasted his critics on Twitter just hours before solemn D-Day commemorations. Calling the top Senate Democrat a
cretins and even attacking a celebrity as a washed-up psycho.
We get you our team of reporters. Phil Black is in Portsmouth. Bianca Nobilo is in our London studios. Melissa Bell is in Normandy in France
where allied troops swept ashore in 1944. Let's start with you, Phil. On a day commemorating what was one of the most significant 24-hours of the
last century.
PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Becky, what we saw today was a moving, but by no means down beat ceremony intended by 15 world leaders who
travelled here from countries that took part in the D-Day landings. But they were not celebrated here, that honor went to the hundreds of surviving
veterans. Men now in their 90s who actually stormed the beaches of Normandy and ran toward those fortified positions or leapt from planes in
the skies over northern France. They were the ones who are honored here, their courage their bravery, their achievement in turning the course of the
war. And so, ultimately the face of Europe as well.
The world leaders, some of them didn't take part in the ceremony. And as you mentioned, Donald Trump read a prayer first read to the American people
by President Roosevelt. Here's a little of what he said.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Almighty God, our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle
to preserve our Republic, our religion and our civilization. And to set free a suffering humanity.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLACK: The Queen also spoke here. She described the wartime generation, my generation she said, as resilient, and she quoted her father George VI
and his call for an unconquerable resolve. And she said, that's what the people who took part in the D-Day landings delivered. And she thanked them
with humility and she said with some pleasure, not just on behalf of the United Kingdom but on behalf of the whole free world -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Melissa, D-Day or the first day of the Normandy landings was the largest amphibious invasion ever undertaken and of course laid the
foundations for the allied defeat of Germany in World War II.
[11:05:00] As Phil reminded us, the invasion, of course, began with a large-scale parachute drop recreated today by some of those that were
involved 75 years ago.
MELISSA BELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, and that is precisely what is being remembered just behind me here, Becky. It was tonight 75 years
ago, that the men of the 101st Air Force Division landed here in Carentan. Having the beaches because it was considered by General Eisenhower, to be
crucial to the success of the D-Day landings. Because it would allow the connection between the beaches that had been secured.
As they arrived -- and we've just been hearing from the commander of the 101st Airborne Division -- they were dispersed. They found themselves
isolated and for several days had to fight the Germans on foot. And it was with their bayonets in the end several days after the D-Day landings that
they secured the victory.
That is being remembered here from the very field -- the cabbage patch from which it's known -- from which they carried out this storming with their
bayonets which ultimately led to victory. We've been hearing from some a number of the veterans. They are all in their 90s. 40 to 60 of them are
gathered here to remember those who didn't make it out. And the extraordinary story of Tom Rice, a man who 75 years ago, parachuting here
in Carentan at the age of 23. Well guess what? He did it again today. He trained for months to be able to parachute again. And he did it
successfully. He spoke to CNN before he did it, Becky. Saying that he wanted to do it to remember all of his fallen comrade comrades, and at this
time he pointed out he hadn't been being shot at as he landed.
ANDERSON: Remarkable stuff. Bianca is in London. The events today marking the end of the U.S. President's trip to the U.K., largely
uneventful say for the pomp and pageantry you'd expect from a state visit to Britain. He did, though, have some choice words for some of his critics
on his preferred platform Twitter overnight. And he also set the record straight on a number of issues in his inimitable fashion in what was a
wide-ranging interview in the U.K. What were the takeaways?
BIANCA NOBILO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Becky, there was a veritable Twitter storm this morning and then we got this wide-ranging interview. A
sit down with Piers Morgan. Somebody who's known Donald Trump for over a decade, winner of the "Celebrity Apprentice". He sat down with the
President inside the Churchill War Room for about 33 minutes and discussed a whole host of topics. And other than the solemn moving commemorations as
we've been seeing that my colleagues were just discussing, that has been what's hitting the airwaves here in Britain and viewers screens in the U.K.
So the topics that were discussed range from the issues of climate change which is an area where Donald Trump has shown himself to be a deep skeptic.
He's pulled out of the Paris climate accord. But something which many commentators were remarking could be an awkward point of contention when he
sits down with the Prince of Wales, the King to be. Because it's a huge passion for him, sustainability and championing the environment. He also
addressed all the controversy surrounding whether or not he did indeed call Meghan Markle, the Duchess of Sussex, nasty, and Piers Morgan pushed him on
that. As well as addressing a host of other more controversial issues, including even gun control. Which is something that Piers Morgan was also
outspoken about back when he worked at CNN. Let's take a listen to some of those soundbites.
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TRUMP: I believe that there's a change in weather, and I think it changes both ways. Don't forget it used to be called global warming that wasn't
working. Then it was called climate change. Now it's actually called extreme weather.
I wasn't referring to she's nasty. I said she's nasty about me. And essentially, I didn't know she was nasty about me. So I said, but you know
what? She's doing a good job. I hope she enjoys her life.
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NOBILO: One of the takeaways, Becky, when you watch that interview in its entirety is the fact that there are a couple opportunities for the
President to slip up or say something undiplomatic. He was pressed on what he discussed with the Queen. Which he did not divulge. He was also asked
about Prince Charles' views on Brexit. Which he also gave a fairly diplomatic answer to. And I think that really does reflect the mood of how
President Trump has conducted himself here.
There have been huge opposition to him in the media from the usual commentators. The protests against him were overwhelming I'd say in London
yesterday. There's been some shows of support. But all in all, this trip has gone off without a major incident apart from that spat with the London
Mayor at the beginning of the trip. But I'd say it's fair to say that President Trump just gave as good as he got in that instance.
ANDERSON: Bianca Nobilo is in London. Phil is in Portsmouth. And Melissa there in Normandy. Thank you all of you. This trip for the U.S. President
and indeed his extended family culminating of course in those D-Day celebrations.
Among the heroes of reclaiming Europe, the machines, the DC-3 Dakota was the great unsung hero of the D-Day landings in 1944.
[11:10:05] CNN's Nick Glass went to meet 96-year-old D-Day Dakota pilot Dave Hamilton. And they did some reminiscing.
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NICK GLASS, CNN JOURNALIST (voice-over): That famous dolphin nose, a splendid row of them in varying livery. Everywhere you looked at area
Duxford, there were Dakotas, the DC-3s and the military version C-47 and a growing band of admirers. We counted 24 planes in all. The greatest
gathering of Dakotas on British soil since 1945, all here to mark the D-Day anniversary. No historic military transport plane is more revered.
Forever remembered as a crucial component in the allied victory.
Some 60 miles away in the East of England, nature's been reclaiming another old airfield slowly but surely. 75 years ago, this was a brand-new
American air base. Dave Hamilton, 97 next month hasn't been back since the Second World War. As a young Dakota pilot he took off from here on a
special mission on D-Day. This was his first sighting of one of his old runways.
(on camera): How vivid are the memories of that night?
DAVE HAMILTON, VETERAN OF WORLD WAR II: They're very, very vivid. In fact I have a bunch of pictures taken three hours before takeoff that night.
GLASS: Was that the first time you'd ever flown Europe?
HAMILTON: It was my first combat mission.
GLASS: Your first?
HAMILTON: Yes, oh, yes.
GLASS: How old were you?
HAMILTON: 21.
GLASS (voice-over): First Lieutenant Dave Hamilton had a pencil mustache then. He was commander of one of 20 Dakotas on the night. They took off
just a few minutes before 10:00 p.m. on June 5th, 1944.
(on camera): You were the first guys in?
HAMILTON: We were the first ones in and that meant we were the first ones out?
GLASS: What altitude over the channel?
HAMILTON: 50 feet. Just above the water. Stayed under the German radar.
GLASS (voice-over): Dave had 18 paratroopers on board. The guys all painted up and combat ready.
HAMILTON: I dropped my parachute at quarter after 1:00 in the morning. And then came back home with lots of holes in my airplane. And I had
nobody injured or hit. Unbelievable. But they just hosed us, you know. It's like running through a water shower.
GLASS: We heard it before we saw it, the special Dakota fly pass in honor of a 96-year-old fly boy.
(on camera): Your plane. Do you hear that?
HAMILTON: Hey, a familiar sound.
GLASS (voice-over): 75 years on, here above an abandoned old American air base. A poignant salute from one veteran to another. Back at area
Duxford, they've been preparing for a commemorative flight and their drop.
HAMILTON: Whoever designed that airplane did a wonderful job. They ought to paint one in gold and put it on a mountain top somewhere, and honor it
the way it ought to be.
GLASS: Naturally, Dave is going on a beloved Dakota again over to Normandy for the anniversary. But this time as a passenger. He's hitching a ride
on D-Day doll.
(on camera): Looking forward to that.
HAMILTON: Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. I haven't done it since 75 years ago. And this time we won't be hosed.
GLASS (voice-over): Nick Glass, CNN with Dave Hamilton and the Dakotas.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
ANDERSON: Winding up the first past our show for us. Lovely.
Well still to come tonight, while President Trump wraps up that visit to the U.K., U.S. officials will soon be hashing out an immigration plan with
Mexico. Will a deal be reached before new tariffs are expected to take effect next week?
Plus warm words for Britain. A war of words with Iran. President Trump fails to take military action against Tehran off the table, in that
interview on British TV.
And you probably wouldn't want to be rescued by this crew. We'll explain what's going on here a little later this hour.
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TRUMP: We are going to build a great border wall.
We will build a great, great wall.
We're going to build a wall, don't worry about it.
I promise, we will build the wall.
It's not going to be a little wall. It's going to be a big beautiful wall.
It's going to be a very tall wall. A very strong wall. A very powerful wall.
It's going to be such a beautiful wall, it's going to be so big, it's going to be so powerful. It's going to be as beautiful as a wall can be. I got
to make it beautiful, because maybe someday they'll name the wall the Trump wall, who the hell knows.
And who's going to pay for the wall.
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ANDERSON: For years we've heard the U.S. President tout the southern border wall to the American people. Now he is taking new steps to stem the
flow of migrants entering the U.S. from Mexico, tariffs. That's the new tool. U.S. and Mexican officials scheduled to meet later today in
Washington to hash out a potential deal on immigration.
Meanwhile, Mr. Trump's new tariffs on all goods coming from Mexico, set to kick in on Monday. But the President is getting push back from members of
his own party. And as the U.S. trade war with China rages on, Chinese President Xi Jinping is cozying up to good friend and Russian counterpart,
Vladimir Putin. We are all over this for you from around the world. CNN's Lauren Fox live for you on Capitol Hill in Washington. Fred Pleitgen
joining us inside the Kremlin in Moscow tonight. But let's bring in CNN's Paula Newton live in Mexico City. Let's kick off with you, what's the view
there -- Paula?
PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You can imagine it was just a couple months ago, Becky, that the U.S. President had threatened to actually close
the border if nothing was done with immigration. That was just two months ago. Mexico though is not taking this as a bluff. And as you said, a high
stakes talks will be under way in just a few hours. What is highly significant here though, Becky, is that opposition as you said, from those
Republican Senators who are also pushing back. Saying, look, tariffs of that kind will hurt the economies in our states.
States like Michigan that rely on those auto manufacturing parts that come in from Mexico. But also states like Texas and California. What's
interesting here, though, is the White House strategy. And I want you to listen now to Peter Navarro.
[11:20:00] He is a hawk on these kinds of things. Has been pushing the President to be as tough as he can on some of these countries. But listen
to what he had to say on whether or not those tariffs will go through on Monday.
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PETER NAVARRO, WHITE HOUSE ADVISOR: This in my judgment, this is a brilliant strategic move to get the Mexicans to internalize some of the
costs. Right now, the Mexican government makes money off illegal immigration. After the tariffs are put in place the Mexican government
will bare costs of that. We believe that these tariffs may not have to go into effect, precisely because we have the Mexican's attention. Vice
President Pence will be being with them today, Secretary of State Pompeo and Ambassador Robert Lighthouse. You saw --
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NEWTON: You know, what's interesting here, is he's saying, stay calm, let's wait and see. The other thing he did, though, Becky, which was
important here, he actually explicitly laid out what they want to see from Mexico. Mexico itself is going into this meeting with facts and figures.
We just have some new statistics from migration bureau here, claiming that in the last six months, they have deported 2 1/2 times more illegal
immigrants than they had throughout most of 2018. That is a significant statistic, and yet it will be interesting to see if that will be enough for
Trump administration.
What's interesting though as well, is that the Trump administration is looking for much more cooperation from Mexico, on trying to keep some of
those migrants either within Mexico or making sure that they don't leave in the first place. What's undeniable, is that Mexico is under a lot of
pressure. They need the economic resources to make this happen. And it's not at all certain that they actually have that. Whether it's the money or
the capacity. It's going to be an interesting afternoon in Washington -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Paula's in Mexico City. Lauren, you're on The Hill. And we heard from Peter Navarro, the White House adviser, with an argument that
isn't being bought by many members of the Republican Party itself. Explain.
LAUREN FOX, CNN POLITICS CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER: Well, you know, Republicans met in a closed-door lunch yesterday, very frustrated with the
White House and judiciary staffers who were there trying to brief them on how the President was going to move forward with these tariffs. Basically,
they said they could not answer many of the questions. There are still questions about the legal rationale for this. Here's what's going on in
the fight in Washington.
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FOX (voice-over): A storm brewing at home within the President's own party concerning his threat to impose tariffs against Mexico over border
security.
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY): There is not much support in my conference for tariffs that's for sure.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will you try to block those terms?
MCCONNELL: Well what I'm telling you is we're hoping that doesn't happen.
FOX: President Trump quickly dismissing any possibility that GOP lawmakers would stand in his way.
TRUMP: No, I don't think they will do that. I think if they did it, it's foolish. There's nothing more important than borders.
FOX: Starting next Monday, President Trump is vowing to enforce a 5 percent tariff on all goods imported from Mexico. And those levels could
go as high as 25 percent by October. Trump says it's punishment for Mexico not doing enough to stop Central American migrants from coming to the U.S.
TRUMP: Mexico shouldn't allow millions of people to try to enter our country. And they could stop it very quickly. And I think they will. And
if they won't, we're going to put tariffs on.
FOX: For some Republican lawmakers, the tariffs are not justified.
SEN. JOHN KENNEDY (R-LA): I think it's a mistake. I'm not saying we don't have a crisis on the border, we do, clearly. I'm not saying it won't work,
at least short term. My concern has to do with the long-term ramifications.
FOX: A person who attended a private lunch tells CNN, multiple GOP Senators expressed frustrations there. Saying the White House is unable to
explain how President Trump's tariffs would work. The Senators pushing to hold off on moving forward until Mr. Trump briefs them personally. The
Democratic controlled House is likely to shut down any new national emergency declaration from President Trump to justify the tariffs. So
Republican Senators will have to choose between voting against Trump or voting for tariffs they can't support.
SEN. RAND PAUL (R-KY): There may be enough numbers of people who think we shouldn't be allowing one person to make this decision. That we actually
may have enough to override a veto on this.
FOX: But across the pond, President Trump seemingly keeping calm and carrying on.
TRUMP: We are going to see if we can do something. But I think it's more likely that the tariffs go on.
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FOX: You know, and I spent the entire morning talking with Republican Senators at this point, their best hope is that those Mexican officials,
the Vice President and the Secretary of State can come to some kind of an agreement, to postpone or hold off on these tariffs until Monday. Many
members pushing the President to brief the Republican caucus before he moves forward. But you know, a lot of questions here -- Becky.
[11:25:02] ANDERSON: Well will see, thank you, Lauren. Fights what he sees as the good fight with Mexico. Sending some pretty positive messages,
while he was in the U.K. on the U.K./U.S. trade situation going-forward post Brexit. All of this though against the shadow as it were of what is
proving to be his biggest battle, which is that trade war with China.
I want to get to you, Fred, you are inside the Kremlin tonight. A significant meeting between the Russian and Chinese leaders. Just explain
what we know and what's going on.
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You're absolutely right, Becky. It's certainly is a very significant meeting
between two leaders who very openly say that they're friendly with one another. And that they very much trust each other. And of course, that
meeting within this current environment with that trade war going on between the U.S. and China, taking on even bigger significance. Of course,
these two leaders not really finding themselves in the same position, but really in a similar position.
Obviously, the Russians for a very long time have faced sanctions from the United States. They've faced those difficult trade conditions with a lot
of their companies. And now the Chinese sort of starting to feel a little bit as well. And what they're doing, is they are very much reaching out to
the Russians.
We just finished a press statement here by Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin. Where around 30 contracting deals were signed between the Russians and the
Chinese. Where they say they want to expand their trade and political relations a great deal. Now they say that's something that's already
happened over the past couple of years.
In fact, last year, the two countries trade exceeded $100 billion they say for the first time. Now course, in many ways, that's still a lot less than
trade between China and the U.S. or China and Europe. But the Chinese certainly feeling the pinch from the U.S. really looking for the Russians.
Not to offset any of that. But just looking for better trade relations with the Russians as well.
I want to focus on one thing Vladimir Putin said. Because I think this was a direct shot that he was taking at the United States. He said, quote,
Russia's and China's geopolitical views align on all issues. And in the agreement on the global strategic stability that we signed today, we made
clear it's unacceptable to jeopardize and breakaway from current treaties that are ensuring global stability.
So in many ways, the U.S. -- the Russians accusing the United States of breaching some of those international norms that they say obviously must
govern international relations between countries. And that's also one of the reasons why you're seeing the Chinese and Russians here really getting
ever closer together. It really is a very friendly visit that we're seeing.
In fact, the two leaders in about 30 minutes from now are going to be going to a panda exhibit. The Chinese, obviously, gifting the Russians with two
pandas. I think it is that exhibit being opened. But generally a very friendly atmosphere. And you can see that these two countries really want
to expand their strategic relationship that they have. Of course, and many ways, that could be quite troubling for the U.S. from a political and
economic perspective -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Fred, would it be fair to say that the opportunity today was as much about the optics as it was about business opportunity?
PLEITGEN: Well, I think on the one hand the optics were very important. I think the optics here were a clear sign by these two leaders that they are
friendly with one another. And they obviously want to show the world and the United States that they are very much on the same page in many things.
You heard it several times from Vladimir Putin. In saying that the strategic relations between these two countries are essentially aligned.
And I think that was also very much a message toward the United States.
Now the trade, of course, is very important between these two countries for different reasons. On the one hand, for the Russian, the Chinese by far
the most important trading partners. Especially for commodities like coal, oil, and gas as well. And that's where China comes in. Because for
China's energy security, that Russian gas, especially from the Russian North, is becoming more and more important really by the day. And a lot of
opportunities they say are going to be there with some big cooperation in that field.
Yes, I think you're right on the one hand it is a lot about the optics between these two leaders, and they made clear time and again they're
friendly with one another. But certainly, the business opportunities, at least for the Russian side are extremely important. And as far as China's
energy security for that big industrial machine that China is now of course very important for them as well -- Becky.
Fred is inside the Kremlin. Good shot Fred, thank you for that. And Laura, on The Hill. Paula in Mexico City. A pleasure to have you all on a
wide-ranging discussion and an important one. Thank you.
I want to show you a rescue now. It turned out to be a terrifying ride for what was an injured hiker. A helicopter in the U.S. state of Arizona
lifted an elderly woman to safety. But she began to spin wildly as the basket carrier she was in was pulled toward the chopper.
[11:30:04] Now authorities say the woman fortunately suffered no serious harm other than dizziness. Remarkable stuff.
Just ahead this hour. Trump bids farewell to Britain and hello to the Emerald Isle. He's about to touchdown in Ireland for a meeting there with
the country's Prime Minister. And a spot of gold. We'll look at the President's latest comments on Iran for you. That's all coming up.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
ANDERSON: Before Mr. Trump left British shores, he sat down with his old friend and former U.S. "Celebrity Apprentice" winner, Piers Morgan, for an
interview on Morgan's show "Good Morning Britain". They talked Meghan Markle, climate change and they talked Iran. Well the President did little
to allay his where rising tensions between Iran and the United States might lead. When asked about the prospect of war, he said, there's always a
chance. Do I want to? No, I'd rather not, but there's always a chance.
Well some fiery comments coming out Tehran might have enraged him somewhat. The country's Supreme Leader is publicly railing against the Trump
administration's Middle East peace initiative, that is the brainchild of course of the U.S. President son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
In a televised address, Ali Khamenei denounced the plans as treacherous and evil and a betrayal of the Muslim world.
[11:35:00] And while there are no bullets flying yet. The battle for hearts and minds of course has been raging and now for some time. The U.S.
State Department has now cut funding for a group purported to combat Iranian propaganda. That group was funded by the State Department's Global
Engagement Center. Brett Bruen a Director of Global Engagement in the Obama White House says the centers mission is being skewed by the Trump
administration.
Jason Rezaian writes for "The Washington Post" and spent 544 days in an Iranian jail, which is the subject of course of his memoir, "Prisoner".
Jason says he was a target of trolls funded by the U.S. State Department. They both join me from Washington. Jason, just explain what happened with
you.
JASON REZAIAN, WASHINGTON POST GLOBAL OPINIONS WRITER: Well, Becky, over the past several months since I returned to writing about Iran for the
"Post". I've been the subject of a series of online attacks from anonymous social media accounts. This has gone on for years, dating back to the time
I was a correspondent in Iran.
It just came to light last week though that one much these accounts were associated with what was called the Iran disinformation project attacking
me, other journalists, human rights advocates, and others who have taken a more nuanced approach to U.S. Iran relations, and our opposed to war and
crippling sanctions on that country.
ANDERSON: Brett, on Obama's watch, you were the director of the center that funded this group. Can you explain what's going on here?
BRETT BRUEN, FORMER U.S. DIPLOMAT: Well, I was director of Global Engagement at the White House. This center actually was created in the
waning hours of the Obama administration. And we have put forward a plan. In fact, Congress funded it to the tune of $80 million. The problem was,
the Trump administration didn't want to spend it, because that meant recognizing that what Russia was doing on information warfare was a real
threat. And instead what they've chosen to do is to spend that money and threaten American activists. Threaten American journalists like Jason who
don't agree with the Trump administration's stand on Iran. That's rather alarming and it's quite dangerous.
ANDERSON: Jason, being trolled by a group like that, does it stop you in the sort of narrative that you want our viewers, myself to read?
REZAIAN: No, it doesn't. It hasn't. But I am in a luxurious position. I have a big platform with "The Washington Post" and with CNN. And so I have
the opportunity to speak out and let my views be known. And I've always been someone who advocates for the right of everybody to express themselves
freely. But when it crosses over into slander and libel, it's unacceptable. And there are a lot of people who have less support. Less
prominent profiles or platforms behind them that don't have that luxury. So I feel like I have to call these things out.
ANDERSON: Brett, let me just get your response to something we heard from the U.S. President in conversation with Piers Morgan in the U.K. when asked
about the prospect of war with Iran. He said, and I quote, there's always a chance. Do I want to? No, I'd rather not. But there is always a
chance. Your sense?
BRUEN: It is typical Trumpian diplomacy. What we see is this effort quite frankly for the President to always have the possibility of war hanging
over, whether it's Iran, North Korea, other adversaries, and yet at the same time, there's no strategy behind it. There's no process behind it.
I'll just give you the example that the tariffs that he issued against Mexico, were threatened against Mexico. He didn't even bother to call the
State Department before he sent out that tweet. I was talking to senior officials there, there's no coordination, and that is why we see the kind
of happen hazard and irresponsible policies.
ANDERSON: Let me put this to you, though, those who support his position on Iran will say his policy of exercising extreme pressure on the country
with the sanctions, that he has, they say, they have worked. He's in a position now where he says, pick up the phone. Behind the scenes, we know
that's not likely. Jason, behind the scenes though, we do know that there is certainly evidence of some sort of mediation, or at least mediation
attempts going on.
[11:40:05] What do you make of those? What is the chance ultimately of the U.S. and Tehran, not necessarily speaking directly, but conversing behind
the scenes?
REZAIAN: I think the chances are very high, but not in the next few days or weeks. And as time goes on, the Iranian regime has shown again after 40
years of it, it's obstinance in the face of threats. And ultimately, as usual, it's the Iranian people who are suffering from the weight of
economic sanctions. But President Trump has made it clear that he wants to talk with the Iranian regime, and those that have been supportive of this
maximalist approach and the threat of confrontation are now scurrying to find a new narrative.
ANDERSON: Thank you, Jason. I want to put something to both of you very briefly. Donald Trump has been commemorating D-Day in Britain of course
today. We saw many organizations bring out the horror of World War II, not least NATO. An alliance that the U.S. President seems, well not be a
particular fan of. Have a listen to this.
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TRUMP: Number one, NATO is obsolete. And number two, the people aren't paying their way. I
t's obsolete and we pay too much money.
NATO, we're going to have the people that aren't paying, they're going to start paying.
It's obsolete. And we're getting ripped in NATO.
They don't pay their bills.
They are delinquent.
NATO is obsolete and has to be rejiggered.
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Well how concerned are you by President Trump's apparent disregard for multilateral organizations like NATO? It resonates so much on a day like
today commemorating 75 years since D-Day. Does he mean it or are those comments just playing to his base?
BRUEN: Well, I would say not just disregard, disrespect and it also dilutes the potency of an alliance like NATO. Because the power rests in
the resolve that the nations of Europe and the United States together represent against any threat. Whether it's Russia -- let's remember that
NATO was the alliance that first came to the U.S. side in Afghanistan. So Trump going out there and making these kinds of threats weakens the U.S.
position. It weakens our allies. It emboldens our adversaries. And if I could just briefly add to the point on Iran. Yes, the pressure works, but
it's got to be applied correctly. And as we've seen in North Korea, Trump just doesn't get that right.
ANDERSON: We're going to have to leave it there, gentlemen. It's been a pleasure having you on. We'll have you back. Thank you so much to Jason
and to Brett out of the U.S.
I'm live out of Abu Dhabi. This is CONNECT THE WORLD. Coming up taking a short break after this.
U.S. President Donald Trump set to alive at Shannon Airport in Ireland. We're going to preview his meeting with the Prime Minister just ahead.
First up though, bringing mental health out into the open with social media. How one psychiatrist is changing the conversation by using
Instagram.
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ANDERSON: As we remember the sacrifices of World War II, we often focus on the physical wounds. But war also scarred countless minds leaving many
with invisible psychological trauma. Treatment for mental health has come a long way since then with trauma slowly being discussed more openly. And
with social media has come a new kind of therapist. One who has endorsed by Beyonce, for example. Helping people understand all kinds of mental
health issues online.
[11:45:00] Here's a sense of how one doctor approaches these important discussions.
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DR. JESSICA CLEMONS, PSYCHIATRIST: Hi, everyone, I just finished my live on "Speaking Your Cool". In my live I gave you guys a few tips of things
that you can start to do right now to keep calm and (INAUDIBLE). Listen, anger is a normal emotion. There's nothing wrong with you if you are
experiencing that. I'm not talking about people who have real anger issues that need specific kinds of treatment. But for most of us, we are
experiencing that emotion, it means there is a problem, and we just need to figure out how to resolve it. So watch my live for tips on what you can do
right now to take control of your anger when you're experiencing it, so you can thrive and shine and light. Let's vibrate higher. Bye.
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ANDERSON: Dr. Jessica Clemons or Dr. Jess as she's known to her followers, joining us now live from New York. And thank you for that. Listen, I've
had a look at your work. It's great. Some will say, look, using social media or Instagram is kind of a bit of a gimmick. But I guess your point
will surely be however you can get yourself out there, you want to get to people to get them to talk, correct?
CLEMONS: Absolutely. I actually was fortunate to be asked to present my use of social media at the American Psychiatric Association's annual
conference. And again, the reason is, social media gives access to information. And so I find it to be very helpful to give the information I
know as a budding psychiatrist who my audience of like 55,000 people. And it's even in -- it's increased my access to even invite them into community
talks where I get to interview various artists. Again demonstrating how normal we should treat mental illness and talk about mental health in a way
that we really don't. And social media has helped me do that.
ANDERSON: Yes, and we know there are hundreds of millions of people around the world with mental health issues. We do thankfully live in an era where
we are beginning to talk more about those issues and things like mental health awareness week last month are really important to that. And how did
your background inform the work that you do now?
CLEMONS: Yes, so when I was in medical school, I was using social media to share what my life was like in New York City. I'm a graduate of Cornell
Medical College. And it was really then that I learned a community was forming around the various posts that I would share. And my audience would
actually be very interested in how did I get into medical school? What are some tips?
And so, naturally when I went into my residency in psychiatry, people asked about my thoughts on anxiety, depression. And just I started to use the
tools that Instagram has like their live feature polling, and I found that people were interested in tuning in. Every Saturday or Sunday I host these
live talks where I try to break down topics to help people again to start thinking about their mental health so they can psych treatment. I'm not
treating people by any means using this but really to encouraging people to seek help.
ANDERSON: Princes William and Harry in the U.K. have made it a priority to focus on veterans and mental health. And on the anniversary of D-Day
today, I want to just have a listen to Prince Harry speaking at the Veterans Mental Health Conference last year. Have a listen to this.
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PRINCE HARRY, UNITED KINGDOM: We must recognize our veterans for what they are. Incredible assets. And not to define them by an injury or condition.
It might be there injury which draws our attention. But it's their unconquerable spirit, willingness to serve others, deep rooted values and
their unique skills which makes them stand above the rest.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: You've got to applaud those two, him and his brother for really raising at the issue of mental health. You are, of course, doing the same
thing. What additional steps need to happen. When it comes to reducing the stigma of mental health. I mean, Prince Harry was talking there about
veterans specifically. Perhaps just across the wider spectrum, if you will.
CLEMONS: I think it's exactly what we're seeing. It's about really creating safe spaces for people to talk about what they're going through.
That's really been one of the most exciting aspects of seeing how social media has been useful for me in that way. You know, I get people who stop
me in the subway and share that after watching your live, I talked to my parents about needing a therapist. And found out they were in couples'
therapy. And again, that stigma is a mark of shame.
[11:50:02] And so, if you are holding and what you think is shameful, that is going to continue to stigma. It's going to continue to perpetuate that.
But if we can just continue to talk about it, make it normal. I think that's the important work, and I'm excited to be a part of that.
ANDERSON: Dr. Jess, thank you.
[11:50:00] Thank you so much for having me.
ANDERSON: Wonderful. Thank you.
All right. Let's get you some live pictures today with a look at why the American President -- and that is his plane, of course -- is stopping by
Ireland. That coming up after this.
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ANDERSON: You're looking at live pictures of Shannon Airport in Ireland where the U.S. President and his wife have just walked down the steps of
Air Force One. Now jumping into the car. Donald Trump there to meet the Irish Prime Minister. And this comes after comments that the President
made about the U.K. leaving the European Union. The possibility of a hard Brexit. So that's I'm sure likely to come up in conversation. They're
also talking about Ireland's economy and peace with Ireland. And a spot of gold on the schedule as well. As they move across the tarmac and out of
Shannon Airport. Nic Robertson live for you at the airport. Just how important is this trip for the U.S. President and indeed the Irish Prime
Minister -- Nic?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes, it's an interesting one, Becky, because it almost didn't happen. There was a
disagreement that became an open and public point of discussion just a week and a half ago. President Trump couldn't agree on a location to meet with
the Prime Minister. He wanted the Prime Minister to come meet him at his golf resort in Doonbeg, about an hour or so's away from here on the coast,
on the beautiful Atlantic Coast on the west of Ireland here. And the Prime Minister for reasons of protocol wanted to lost the U.S. President at a
nearby castle. And the final agreement was to use a VIP suite for their meeting here at Shannon Airport.
But there are substantive things that the two men can talk about. How much time they'll actually spend talking, we don't know. President Trump
obviously has a similar message to that as he had when he was meeting with British government officials, Huawei, again a topic, an issue here. The
United States doesn't want to see Ireland buying into their 5G infrastructure.
But for the Irish Prime Minister, the Taoiseach here, huge and big and central to his agenda will be concerns about what he heard President Trump
say. And that he'll be, you know, that he thinks that a no deal Brexit will be good. Why? Because that would impact the Irish economy
significantly and it would potentially impact the peace in Northern Ireland.
[11:55:00] Both things of course close to the heart of the Irish Prime Minister. He has been sort of fighting with the European Union to get
these customs border relationships continuing to run smoothly. That will be knocked on the head if you will by a hard Brexit. And because Ireland
exports and does so much business with mainland Britain, that would hit the economy here. Of course, the peace in Northern Ireland to remind the U.S.
President, the United States has a stake in that peace, because they helped broker it -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Very briefly -- we've got about 30 seconds left. How would you describe this three-day trip that the U.S. President has now made to the
U.K. and closing it out of course in the Emerald Isle?
ROBERTSON: You know, breezy, blustery, sunny, rain showers expected. He's going to love the golf on the coast in his resort. Of course he will. The
people in the town there, 341 of them by last census, love having him there. He's good for the economy. And the protests that was arranged at
the airport here, very small. I don't think he'll be troubled by them. I think he's going to relax and have a good time.
ANDERSON: That's the Trump forecast from our international diplomatic correspondent, Mr. Nic Robertson on the tarmac there in Shannon.
I'm Becky Anderson, that was CONNECT THE WORLD. Thank you for watching.
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