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GORDON SONDLAND, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE E.U.: Was there a quid pro quo?
The answer is yes.
JOSEPH MAGUIRE, ACTING DNI: I would say that the whistleblower's complaint is in alignment with what was released.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Trump's personal attorney says he isn't afraid of getting indicted.
RUDY GIULIANI, ADVISOR TO DONALD TRUMP: I've seen things written like he's going to throw me under the bus. He isn't. But I have insurance.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If they were honest about it, they'd start a major investigation into the Bidens.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Live from CNN Abu Dhabi. This is CONNECT THE WORLD with Becky Anderson.
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST: Yes, it is and, this hour, we are closer than ever to the impeachment of Donald Trump.
In Hong Kong, a record number of voters are hitting the polls after months of violent revolt.
And I get my zen on with one of the greatest minds of our time, Yuval Noah Harari.
It's your world and we are connecting it.
After two weeks of testimony, U.S. Democrats are now moving forward in their impeachment inquiry of president Donald Trump. House Intelligence
Committee chair Adam Schiff tells CNN there could be more hearings but he won't go to court to force testimony by witnesses like former national
security adviser John Bolton.
Schiff says he doesn't want to waste time.
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REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D-CA), CHAIR, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: There is a sense of urgency when you have a president who's threatening the integrity
of our elections, that we need to act now if we're going to act. And we can't allow this obstruction to succeed.
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ANDERSON: At issue is whether the president tied military aid to the Ukraine to an investigation into the Bidens. A Republican congressman said
no such link was proven during the testimony.
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REP. LEE ZELDIN (R); It's not until after they read it in "Politico" on August 29th that President Zelensky and his team received confirmation that
there is a hold on aid. The aid hold got lifted shortly thereafter. Ukraine didn't have to do anything to get the hold on aid lifted.
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ANDERSON: OK. Well, the Democrats hope to have the process wrapped up in the coming weeks with a vote, we are told by Christmas they hope. CNN
Suzanne Malveaux has more.
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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN U.S. CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): House Democrats moving one step closer to impeaching President Trump, building their case
that he orchestrated a plan to withhold military aid and dangled a White House meeting in exchange for Ukraine announcing investigations into his
political rivals.
Multiple Democratic sources telling CNN they're hoping to wrap up by Christmas, including holding proceedings before the House Judiciary
Committee, drawing up articles of impeachment against Trump and holding a vote on them.
REP. VAL DEMINGS (D-FL), MEMBER, INTELLIGENCE AND JUDICIARY COMMITTEES: We'll regroup next weekend and talk about the steps moving forward.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): But their investigation has hit some roadblocks with the White House and State Department bought stonewalling Democrats
from accessing important documents and having access to top administration officials, allegedly involved in this scheme.
REP. DENNY HECK (D-WA), MEMBER, INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: What I would like to see happen next is that Ambassador Bolton and secretary of state Pompeo
do exactly what the very brave and courageous people who worked for them did, which is to step forward and put patriotism for their country ahead of
their own personal interests.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): Still, speaker Nancy Pelosi says they have enough evidence to press forward.
REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), HOUSE SPEAKER: No, we're not going to wait until the courts decide. We can't wait for that because, again, it's a
technique, it's obstruction of justice. Obstruction of Congress.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): House Republicans disagree.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we've had enough. I think it's time to shut it down.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): In the last hearing of the week, former White House national security official Fiona Hill described Ambassador Gordon
Sondland's role in Trump's actions toward Ukraine.
FIONA HILL, FORMER WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIAL: He was being involved in a domestic political errand and we were being involved in
national security foreign policy and those two things had just diverged.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): The White House's former top Russia adviser also dismantling Trump's debunked conspiracy theory that it was Ukraine, not
Russia, that interfered in the 2016 elections.
HILL: But I refuse to be a part of an effort to legitimize an alternative narrative. These depictions are harmful, even if they're employed for
purely domestic political purposes.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): David Holmes, an aide at the U.S. embassy in Ukraine, detailing the phone conversation he overheard between Sondland and
President Trump just one day after the president's now famous call with Ukraine's leader.
DAVID HOLMES, COUNSELOR FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS, U.S. EMBASSY IN UKRAINE: The president's voice was loud and recognizable.
I then heard President Trump ask, "So he's going to do the investigation?"
Ambassador Sondland replied that he's going to do it.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): Holmes quoting Sondland as saying the president did not care about Ukraine, instead he only cared about:
D. HOLMES: The big stuff that benefits the president.
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D. HOLMES: Like the Biden investigation that Mr. Giuliani was pushing.
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ANDERSON: CNN's Kristen Holmes is joining us from the White House. And our political analyst and "Washington Post" reporter, Karoun Demirjian is
in our D.C. bureau.
We now know the Democratic House aides are spending this Thanksgiving week preparing a report that will spell out the case for impeachment and we are
told there are unlikely to be big surprises. Almost all of the evidence, of course, is public already.
So what's the view at the White House at this point?
KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, it depends on who you talk to, right?
Particularly here in Washington, you will hear everyone spin their side of the story. For people at the White House, a lot are saying they don't
believe Nancy Pelosi is actually going to go through with actually drafting these articles of impeachment and having that vote.
But that is not what we are hearing from Democrats behind the scene. They are all in on this. We just heard Adam Schiff, who wouldn't commit to the
impeachment vote. But he would say he would talk to colleagues and other constituents when he went home over break to see what they thought.
But he also said that they had all the evidence that they needed. As you said, they didn't have to go to court for the former national security
adviser John Bolton, because they already had what really spelled out some misdeeds here.
So two separate sides of the story here. I kind of want to talk about a third group, Republicans that are Trump allies in the Trump White House.
Then you have Democrats. Then this is this third middle group which are usually conservatives but they don't really line with Trump on everything.
And so I spoke to a lot of them in the weeks of these public hearings and a lot of them are really confused right now. They say that they don't like
President Trump. They don't like what he did. They think what he did was wrong but they really aren't sure if it rises to the level of impeachment.
So that's kind of what we're going to be watching in the next couple of weeks. As you said, they're preparing this report. They go through all of
this evidence, everything that they learned and they pass it off to the Judiciary Committee.
The Judiciary Committee will use this as the basis of articles of impeachment, should they choose to draft them. During this process,
Democrats are expecting behind the scenes a very busy December. They are talking about public hearings, deposition, more evidence being brought in
because as you said they want to have this vote before Christmas.
Now it's not clear whether or not that can possibly happen. We also heard Adam Schiff leaving the door open during that interview to more
depositions, to more hearings, to gathering of more evidence by the Intelligence Committee saying this isn't over.
This process could be drawn out. They said they want to keep this as quick as possible. That's why they decided not to take these White House aides
to court.
ANDERSON: Karoun, should Pelosi then bring these charges?
If it's clear, what articles of impeachment we are talking about here?
What is it the Democrats are likely to charge the president with at this point?
KAROUN DEMIRJIAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, we know they're certainly going to charge him with an obstruction of Congress charge. Because that
has been the crux before this impeachment specific Ukraine inquiry was on the table.
It also sounds like they're going to try to push toward some sort of bribery charge or abuse of office in that regard because they are hinging
this on the quid pro quo of leveraging the promised military aid in order to get something of benefit to him, the politically charged investigations
into the Bidens and 2016 elections.
It seems they are shaping up some sort of charge on those grounds of attempted bribery or something like that.
I think what remains to be seen is do they stick just to the confines of the Ukraine probe or broaden this a little bit?
Half of the reason I believe the chairman of the Intelligence Committee is hedging on whether they will be pivoting toward the Judiciary Committee or
opening this up to further depositions, a lot waits for Monday. We will hear a decision in the court case of whether Don McGahn, if you remember,
from the previous chapter in the Russia probe, he's the former White House counsel, the star witness in Mueller's probe.
There is supposed to be a decision in whether he has to obey the congressional summons to come forward. If he does, that could suggest that
people like Bolton, the deputy who currently has a subpoena, Bolton does not, what happens there. That could open the floodgates to more witnesses
which means there could be more to pack in.
At this juncture if they stick to what is there, it seems like obstruction of Congress and we'll see if the Judiciary Committee wins out to have other
charges that go back more toward when the Mueller report and the Russia investigation was the focus.
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DEMIRJIAN: But right now, it seems like they are going to try to keep this as clean as possible so they can sell this message to the American people
once this gets to the Senate trial.
ANDERSON: Yes. Because we all, of course, are less than a year out from the 2020 election.
Karoun, finally, one figure in all of this, of course, is the president's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who is being investigated for his role in
Ukraine. There is speculation his relationship with Mr. Trump is being somewhat strained of late. I want our viewers to have a listen to what
Giuliani had to say about that.
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GIULIANI: You can assume that I talked to him early and often. Yes. And have a very, very good relationship with him and all of these comments
which are totally insulting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
GIULIANI: I see things like he's going to throw me under the bus. When they say that, I say, he isn't. But I have insurance.
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ANDERSON: Giuliani says he was being sarcastic, not when he said he was totally insulted by some of these comments but he said he had insurance.
And we are told he has joked about this before.
That is not the question.
This is the question, Karoun, what chance he will be thrown under the bus?
"I don't know the guy" is going to be a very difficult defense for the U.S. president on this one, is it?
DEMIRJIAN: Well, look, I mean, even before we got to this stage of looking toward the Senate trial when it will be Trump's lawyers deciding what the
defense is, there was discussion among members of the House GOP, look, if we think most of the witnesses are hearsay witnesses getting their
information secondhand, who was talking directly to the president who could have mistranslated or gone freelance or rogue or something look that?
That list is very short, it's Rudy Giuliani, Gordon Sondland, Mick Mulvaney and occasionally Kurt Volker, but now that Gordon Sondland has come forward
and given information incriminating the president, it would appear the person in the middle of everything, Sondland said he got most of his
information about what Trump was saying through Giuliani.
And so there is this question mark around Giuliani. He a fairly capricious character who is known for going on television and speaking his mind and
changing it and he's in lockstep with whatever the planned message is supposed to be.
That presents a potential target to deflect away from the president if this starts to look really bad for the president. There is a dual strategy of
deflection and also absolving of what the president did, making it seem like his intentions were completely pure and just and going after
corruption in Ukraine.
Both of these tracks are being pursued at the same time. We'll see which the president's team will assume as their own once they get to the point
where they are defending themselves, which will be the next stage of this affair.
ANDERSON: Fascinating. Karoun, thank you.
Kristen, do stay with us. We are all over this, staying on top of this story, including, of course, at the website, cnn.com, where you can find
live updates on all of these developing elements to this story as they come, plus other features like a breakdown of what comes next in the
impeachment process.
You can sign up for our impeachment watch newsletter. You know how to find that.
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ANDERSON: All right, the Secretary for the U.S. Navy denies he is planning to resign over a military dispute with president Donald Trump. Now this
after the Navy decided to conduct a review of Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher's fitness to serve.
Just days earlier, the president restored his rank. They had demoted Gallagher after he was found guilty of posing for a photo with an ISIS
fighter's dead body. Gallagher told FOX News what he thinks is behind this whole controversy.
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EDDIE GALLAGHER, U.S. NAVY SEAL: It's all about ego and retaliation. This has nothing to do with good order and discipline. I don't know how many
times I thank the president, he keeps stepping in and doing the right thing. What the admiral is doing showing complete insubordination is not
the good example of good order and discipline.
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ANDERSON: Kristen Holmes with us again from Washington.
What more do we know about this, Kristen?
K. HOLMES: Well, Becky, I want to kind of take us back here to earlier in the month. Because that's really where these tensions begin between the
Pentagon and the White House.
President Trump, against the advice of the Pentagon, intervening in three war crimes cases and one of them being of this special operations chief,
Eddie Gallagher, who is a part of the Navy SEALs. He was the only one who was let back into the ranks.
Shortly after that, the head of the Navy SEALs, a man by the name of Rear Admiral Collin Green, decided to conduct a review of Gallagher's fitness to
serve as a Navy SEAL.
That, of course, separate from just being in the Navy.
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K. HOLMES: We know the SEALs are an elite unit, they have special training and they conduct very special top secret missions, including the team that
took down Osama bin Laden. So a very big honor to be a part of that.
Now, the president, after this review has been launched, really causing major concern within the military as a whole when he tweeted the following,
I'm going to read it to you.
He says, "The Navy will not be taking away warfighter and Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher's trident pin. This case was handled very badly from the
beginning. Get back to business."
The trident pin is what represents what makes him a part of the Navy SEALs. So military leaders came to the White House. They talked to President
Trump, saying that essentially they were concerned about the apparent attempt to block the Navy.
Meanwhile we're hearing reports that the Secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer, was threatening to resign if, in fact, Trump did block them from
conducting this review. But this is how he responded to those reports.
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RICHARD SPENCER, U.S. SECRETARY OF THE NAVY: Contrary to popular belief, I'm still here. I did not threaten to resign. Let us just say we are hear
to talk about external threats. And Eddie Gallagher is not one of them.
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K. HOLMES: And we also heard that Admiral Green had threatened reside over the same issue. When it comes to those reports, one source tells us it's
not about resignation, Admiral Green knew launching this report might make him open to being fired by President Trump for what this report said was
insubordination. Becky.
ANDERSON: Amazing.
Kristen, thank you for that. Kristen has been with us through the first quarter of this show on two extremely important stories.
Up next, it's part two of my interview with Yuval Noah Harari.
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YUVAL NOAH HARARI, PHILOSOPHER: Politicians are -- will soon get into their hands that the chronology to create heaven or hell.
ANDERSON (voice-over): Is it time to answer some of life's great unanswered questions?
Well, Yuval certainly thinks so.
Plus --
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ANDERSON: Well, it's a sight we have brought to you often in what has been a season of discontent. Global protests connecting the world with little
sign of calming down as we all tick down towards a new decade.
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ANDERSON: The end point of these movements, quite frankly, is unknown.
But when looking into a crystal ball, at least in the mind of my next guest, one thing is clear: this is just the start of what is to come.
People feeling irrelevant against power, fighting to have their voices heard before it is too late.
Author Yuval Noah Harari is one of the greatest minds of our time. Last hour he told me there will be no return if we go down the path of a digital
dictatorship. Now in part two, he reflects on the skills we need or certainly will need to survive this 21st century.
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HARARI: What we have seen over the last few years is people losing faith in the story of both democracy and it's not absolutely clear why because
actually, the last 20 or 30 years under the protection of the global liberal order, were the best times in history of humankind.
In the 20th century we had a big battle between three stories, the Communist story, the fascist story and the liberal story. And the fascist
story was knocked out in the Second World War, for something like 30 years we had just one story to explain the past and to guide us to the future and
now this story is collapsing.
We are left with a vacuum, zero stories, which is the most frightening situation to be in. The vacuum is tentatively filled by all kind of
nostalgic fantasies, nationalist fantasies, religious fantasies. But what is common to all these fantasies, they don't offer any viable vision for
world as a whole and for the future.
The only thing we know for certain is that, by 2050, the world will be completely different from today. It's only the first time in history that
we have no idea what a job market would look like in 30 years, what skills people will need in 30 years. There will be jobs. Some jobs will
disappear. But new jobs will emerge.
Other jobs will be transformed and we just don't know how and what skills will be needed, which is really frightening, because this is a question we
need to answer now, not in 20 or 30 years. We need to know what to teach kids today in school or in college.
ANDERSON: What do we teach children today?
HARARI: The most important skill is how to keep learning and keep reinventing yourself throughout your life, which means you need, above all
else, a lot of emotional intelligence and a lot of mental flexibility.
How to keep reinventing yourself repeatedly throughout your life because the big struggle in the 21st century will not be against exploitation, like
in the 20th century, it will be against irrelevance.
How do I stay relevant to this fast moving world?
ANDERSON: Yuval, what happened in 2016?
You talk about a useless class with looking back through the prism of nostalgia and the rise of populism and nationalism.
So what happened?
HARARI: So I think part of what happened in 2016, in many parts of the world, is that even people who don't follow the latest developments in AI
and bioengineering and all these big worlds, machine learning and the big data and all these things, they are correctly sensing this that they are in
danger of becoming irrelevant and they are revolting against that.
And saying, hey, we still have a lot of power, at least the power of mayhem. And they have succeeded in capturing the attention of everybody.
I think that the real problem is that, to deal with any of the major issues we are facing, we need to do it on a global level and we are running in the
opposite direction.
ANDERSON: Yuval, what keeps you up at night?
HARARI: I try to sleep well.
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HARARI: I don't like to stay awake at night if I don't have to. Yes, I think that my main worries are more likely cosmic or philosophical worries.
I think that we are really facing against philosophical bankruptcy, that we don't have the ideas or the outlook to really deal with the powers that we
are acquiring.
You know, the basic deal between philosophers and politicians has always been that philosophers have these fancy ideas, how to change the world,
change humanity.
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HARARI: And the politicians come and say, well, we don't have the means to realize your ideas very much.
Now it's the opposite situation. The politicians will soon get into their hands the technology to create heaven or hell. But the philosophers are
having difficulty conceptualizing the new heaven and new hell fast enough.
These questions are now migrating from the department of philosophy to the department of engineering. And whereas philosophers are very, very patient
people; They can discuss an issue for thousands of years and not agree on the answer and be OK with it, engineers are impatient and the people who
pay the engineers are even more impatient.
If you want to put a self-driving vehicle on the road, you need to solve all kind of ethical dilemmas and issues about free will that have been
argued for thousands of years. You want to do it in next year or five years. So I think now if the philosophers don't do their job, the
engineers will do that job, too. And that's very dangerous.
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ANDERSON: Yuval Harari warning now is the time to answer some of life's great unanswered questions.
If you missed our first part of that conversation, the full interview will be available online at cnn.com/connect.
Meanwhile, on the topic of the tyranny of technology, the comedian-actor Sasha Baron Cohen blasting the leaders of YouTube, Google and Twitter and
Alphabet, the Silicon 6 as robber barons of the digital age.
He saved his most blistering attacks and nearly half-hour speech for perhaps the most powerful of all, Facebook, and for its powerful leader,
Mark Zuckerberg. Have a listen to this.
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SASHA BARON COHEN, ACTOR: Zuckerberg tried to portray this whole issue as choices around free expression.
That is ludicrous. This is not about limiting anyone's free speech. This is about giving people, including some of the most reprehensible people on
Earth, the biggest platform in history to reach a third of the planet.
Freedom of speech is not freedom of reach. Sadly, there will always be racists, misogynists, anti-Semites and child abusers. But I think we can
all agree that we should not be giving bigots and pedophiles a free platform to amplify their views and target their victims.
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ANDERSON: Facebook said Mr. Cohen "misrepresented Facebook's policies."
Thoughts? Won't get in touch with us where else but on the communications podiums, those ubiquitous podiums of our lives, those same places we just
heard being torn apart so that is facebook.com/CNNConnect also on Twitter @CNNConnect.
Ahead on the program, a Hong Kong protester lost a kidney after police opened fire. Why he says he will never forgive the officer who shot him.
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ANDERSON: Well, the man leading the U.S. impeachment hearings, Adam Schiff, says evidence shows, and I quote, "serious misconduct" by president
Donald Trump in his dealings with Ukraine. Whether that is an impeachable offense will be determined in the weeks ahead.
However, a House Republican told CNN's Jake Tapper that no link between aid to Ukraine and an investigation into the Bidens was proven during those
hearings.
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ZELDIN: It's not until after they read it in "Politico" on August 29th that President Zelensky and his team received confirmation that there is a
hold on aid. The aid hold got lifted shortly thereafter. Ukraine didn't have to do anything to get the hold on aid lifted.
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ANDERSON: Well, after two weeks of testimony, the Intelligence Committee writes a report the Democrats hope to hold a final vote on impeachment by
Christmas. For more on that, of course, as we get it.
Right now, Hong Kong awaiting results of a record breaking local election, voting for district council wrapped up a couple hours ago, calls for full
democracy remain strong after six months of protests there and unrest, as of the last count, 2.8 million people voted.
That beats the record set in 2015 by nearly a 1.5 million voters. This election is clearly seen as a referendum for the city's chief executive,
Carrie Lam, who is backed by Beijing, joining me now our international security editor, Nick Paton Walsh.
This record high turnout we are told, in part, are driven by hundreds of thousands of first-time voters, which perhaps is no surprise, given what we
see on the streets in the last six months. They are out demonstrating.
The simple question, it seems, this time around, whose side are you on, pro democracy or pro establishment, correct?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, and we've seen most likely this turnout go over 70 percent, which is remarkable,
given, a matter of years ago, it was in the high 40s.
Behind me you are seeing counting getting underway in one of the central polling stations. We have 5,000 votes cast, 64 percent turnout here. A
brief moment of tension here, voters asked those observing here, the counting press asked why two ballot boxes are brought in. Those are for
people who won't attend the station, itself, it shows the tension, for five or six hours.
So at least a way until we start seeing some kind of tally of that. You are right, this is a referendum, not on Carrie Lam, simply the direction of
Hong Kong, after months of protests on the streets, which have pushed Hong Kong into deception.
Many pro Beijing or a silent majority may step forward and say they want to see an end and great government control or those that back democracy here
want to see this as a resounding show of support for a greater universal suffrage across Hong Kong here.
That really is the issue that will have to be resolved in the hours ahead. This isn't a matter of a consequence in elections.
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WALSH: These are small district seats. They have eventually influence on perhaps who becomes an chief executive.
But that isn't due until 2022. So there is possibly more on this election than may be deliverable by its results certainly tomorrow.
That isn't going to change the political makeup of Hong Kong overnight. What people have seen, though, is a remarkably peaceful weekend, that's a
rarity. But that will be preceded by intense violence. Some of it is sparked by an injury of some protesters, one of whom we spoke to ourselves.
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WALSH (voice-over): These wounds were felt across Hong Kong.
PATRICK CHOW, INJURED PRO-DEMOCRACY PROTESTER: This is the most pain area.
WALSH (voice-over): Patrick is one of a handful of protesters to be shot by police in this unrest. Yet his injuries sparked the last 10 days of
extreme violence. A student, age 21, his voice is husky on the hospital breathing tubes.
WALSH: So you are missing a kidney?
CHOW: Yes, I am missing a kidney.
WALSH (voice-over): Chow is out on bail, faces possible court charges and is legally advised not to discuss how he came to be here.
In this graphic video that captures the shooting, Chow is in black.
WALSH: What did you think when you saw the pistol?
CHOW: It's ridiculous. We'd done nothing and he take out his gun and pointed, not point at me, pointed at a white guy, the white jacket guy.
And I said, why, why point at him?
He done nothing and we have done nothing. He point at me. And bang. And I fall -- and I am sit on the ground.
WALSH (voice-over): His father sits behind in support.
WALSH: Are you proud of what he did?
WALSH (voice-over): The police officer has gone on leave but been identified online by protesters, his children threatened. Police have said
the officer had feared his gun would be snatched.
WALSH: What would you say to that policeman who shot you, if you saw him again?
CHOW: Why did you shoot the people with no weapons?
WALSH: Would you forgive him if he said to you he was scared?
CHOW: No, no. Never forgive. He took my kidney.
WALSH: Do you worry that the hate is here to stay now in Hong Kong?
CHOW: Hate has become more bigger in Hong Kong now but because it's the government and police. Police is -- they ignore the human rights. It
makes their hate become bigger and bigger.
This generation has been chosen, so we have to keep fighting for our demands until we get what we want.
WALSH (voice-over): Demands and violence that daily drive further and further away from compromise.
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WALSH: Now Becky, they are double checking some of the counting behind me here and really the hours ahead could be a source of great disappointment
for many voters here, because analysts suggest a high turnout may well favor the pro democracy vote.
Because of how votes are allocated here, even if pro democracy movement got a large number of votes, it may not translate to seats in their favor.
That could cause tension ahead and Beijing voters may be disappointed too, if they don't feel the protests calm down if a majority voted, for example,
seem want to turn their back on the chaotic months ahead. So a lot riding on here and both sides will not likely be satisfied overnight with whatever
result we hear in the hours ahead, Becky.
ANDERSON: Big marches in Hong Kong for you, thank you, Nick.
Well, let's get you up to speed on the stories on our radar right now. In Kenya, more than 2 dozen people are dead after a landslide in the
northwestern part of the country. Officials say at least seven children were among the fatalities.
Heavy rain swept away roads and bridges, making rescue efforts more difficult. Authorities urged people to move to safer ground as the heavy
rainfall continues.
At least 17 people are dead after a plane crashed in the Democratic Republic of Congo on Sunday.
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ANDERSON: Authorities say the plane operated by a private airline crashed shortly after it took off from the airport. Air accidents are so common in
Congo, the country's commercial flights are not allowed to fly into the European Union's airspace.
News just coming in, an attorney for an Egyptian online newspaper says the news editor and three other journalists are free after being arrested. The
editor was arrested Saturday and the other three were arrested in a raid by security forces today.
Could thousands of prehistoric beasts save the planet?
Well, the famous owner of these bison hope so. We'll look at how they could help turn the tide of climate change.
That is after this.
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ANDERSON: CNN's new commitment to engage you, our global audience, called to Earth with the inspirational stories of the people and solutions turning
the tide of climate change. Our first profile is a man whose dream it was to restore prehistoric beasts to the prairies of the American West.
That man just happened to also revolutionize television news, CNN Founder, Ted Turner. CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta spent time
on his ranch to learn how the American bison might actually help save the planet.
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DANNY JOHNSON, FLYING D RANCH MANAGER: What you are looking at here is 30 years of letting nature take its course and Ted having the vision to make
this happen.
My name's Danny Johnson. I manage the Flying D Ranch for Ted Turner and I've been with him for 25 years.
This has always been historically a cattle ranch. And converting it to bison, people are worried about bison not staying on the property. They
were worried about their own livestock. They were worried about disease transmissions.
TODD WILKINSON, AUTHOR: He alienated a lot of local people. It was an audacious thing to say, I'm going to replace all the cattle with bison.
JOHNSON: Absolutely crazy. Absolutely crazy.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: When these cattle ranchers and other people came to you and said, Ted, this is cattle land,
why are you doing bison here?
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TED TURNER, TURNER ENTERPRISES: It's bison land. The bison were here before the cattle. The cattle came over from Europe. The bison were
already here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bison use the land differently. Where cattle on a hot summer day might be loafing in a riparian area, which would compact the
willows and in circuit enervate (ph) the root systems, bison would prefer to be on a hill top, catching the breeze and seeing the vista up there.
They're always on the move. They're a sharp-hooved animal, so instead of compacting the ground, they're actually slicing the ground with their
hooves, which allows seeds to take root.
GUPTA: They're such majestic creatures and it just feels like the way the Earth should be. A natural environment like this actually means that the
grass is going to be different, the way that they graze. The soil is going to be different because of the grass that's growing in it.
And as a result, it's grass like this that's actually pulling carbon dioxide out of the air. So these bison can actually help save the planet.
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ANDERSON: And we will continue highlighting what is this original series all this week. Take a look at tomorrow's episode as we celebrate the
launch of "Call to Earth." Let us know what you are doing to answer this call. The tweet is #CallToEarth. Back after this.
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ANDERSON: As we come to the end of our show, we want to circle back to our top story this hour, the growing impeachment push against the American
president, who, it must be said, may have a little problem with the truth.
If you are keeping count at home, you probably lost track. He's made more than 1,200 false claims just since this summer. Coming up this week, we
are taking a deeper look at the impact of all of these lies on Wall Street, on Congress and on the American psyche in a brand-new CNN special report.
Have a look at this.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITE STATES: It's a scam. It's a whole hoax.
Defeated ISIS.
JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR AND CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We all know he does it.
TRUMP: The whistleblower has been very inaccurate.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Babe Ruth of lies.
TRUMP: Windmills, they say the noise causes cancer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a drug for him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's no president that lied as if it were a form of breathing, except Donald Trump.
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TRUMP: Nobody's been more transparent than me.
TAPPER (voice-over): This isn't a transparent thing. He empirically says a number of things that are completely wrong.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, exactly.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In recent months, it's been about 22 a day.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump lies about every conceivable topic, from the weather, to the infamous shark bite. You can't make this stuff up.
TRUMP: Stronger, cheaper.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To immigration and trade.
TRUMP: We're not paying for the tariffs. China is paying for the tariffs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's wrong.
TAPPER: We wanted to know, what is the impact of all of these lies.
In the U.S. .
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Research shows that repetition increases the belief in false news.
TAPPER: -- on Capitol Hill .
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president was a factor in my decision not to run again.
TAPPER: -- in science ..
(on camera): What's at stake?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lives.
TAPPER (voice-over): -- and the world.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president stands up and basically says --
TAPPER: What a great outcome. Congratulations.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, no. That's not the case.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: American credibility has been shredded.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Most of what he says should probably be presumed to be false it's until proven to be true.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am a conservative Republican. Never did I imagine I would be pointing out the gross flaws of a Republican president.
JOHN KASICH, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: People say to me all the time, what am I supposed to believe?
TAPPER: What should we believe?
Who can we trust?
TRUMP: Just remember what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening.
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ANDERSON: Donald Trump for you.
Well, the Internet in Iran getting back online this weekend after the longest-ever outage there, all as the government tried to cut off the
information about widespread demonstrations getting out.
Now we are seeing inside, burned and broken storefronts, smashed windows and busted petrol pumps. The government's sudden decision to massively
increase the price of petrol setting off the violence it seems.
So in tonight's "Parting Shots," we turn to the masterful stroke of an artist's pen, a powerful tool, a voice to the oppressed, to sneak into your
brain and force you to think. Cartoonist Mana Neyestani was exiled from his home country, Iran. He reflects on what it means to live in Iran
today.
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MANA NEYESTANI, CARTOONIST (voice-over): If you want to be Iranian in Iran, if you want to consider past Iranians by the government, you should
follow the orders, you should follow the tyranny, the corruption.
The main reason of the latest progress in Iran is not only the price of gas, it's the creating poverty, it's creating hardship (ph) and people not
satisfied with the regime function.
This is not something new. In my illustrations, I try to show the recent situation of Iran, the anger toward the regime because of a lack of
freedom, freedom of speech, lack of social freedom, political freedom.
You know the government shut down the Internet to kill the people in silence. I think the biggest weakness of the Iranian regime is the free
flow of the information. I try to be the voice of part of the people of Iran who has no voice in the official national media.
So I hope to achieve democracy. I know that these are big words, achieving democracy by drawing cartoons. But this is one small step. This is only -
- probably this is the only step I could take.
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ANDERSON: The power of the cartoonist's pen. Before we go, have a listen to this.
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ANDERSON: That is a very good look at one of Coldplay's concerts in Amman, Jordan, on Friday, launching their new album from atop the citadel at
sunrise. The band has one more show in London next week to promote its new album, "Everyday Life." After that they plant to take a break from
touring.
Lead singer Chris Martin says, a dream future concert would use mostly solar power and eliminate single use plastics.
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ANDERSON: What a shot that is. Amazing. I'm Becky Anderson.
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ANDERSON: That was CONNECT THE WORLD. I hope you feel connected. Thanks for watching.
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