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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN ANCHOR: Europe's second wave turns into a tsunami. Is it becoming too late to avoid another round of COVID lock downs? Then.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I give ourselves an A.
ANDERSON: An A for 200,000 deaths for U.S. now approaching an horrific milestone. And the Supreme Court battle there adds a divisive new twist in
what is an already messy American election.
This hour, our once in a generation struggled meets and historic moments. I'm Becky Anderson and this hour, we are connecting a world that needs to
remember that divided we fall. United we stand. In the next few minutes the American president known for his America first brand of unilateralism will
deliver a speech marking 75 years of what is perhaps the world's greatest testament to multilateral diplomacy, United Nations.
This as we are just a day away from the U.N.'s great big yearly bash. Its general assembly known as UNGA by the type of people who were who attend,
but it won't look much like it normally does this year because of the pandemic. And to go forward, we need first to look back. I sent my team
back into the archives to find this U.N. meeting back on June the first 1945. For the deciding vote on what would be the UN's DNA, its charter.
All as the world still smolder from the Second World War. And we sit at such an historic juncture needing unity once again, just since the last
time we broadcast this show. On Friday, at this time, there have been more than a million new cases of the virus around the world. We are now at 31
million reported cases. So, we all must come together on research treatments and the vaccine United Nations is meant to do just that.
Unite Nations, consider that as we get through this show, because right now, more and more people are getting sick from the virus across Europe
than ever the situation more and more dire by the day, it seems nowhere is that more acute than in France. It reported new daily highs over the
weekend with more than 13,000 cases. Some days, it's getting so bad that some French hospitals are nearly out of intensive care beds.
And the U.K. warning that it might not be so far behind. Just hours ago, the government's chief medical officer warning that as cases double every
week, it might now be forced into another lockdown. And away from the cold hard numbers in these graphs. Let me show you these scenes from Spain.
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ANDERSON: Protesters on public health system in Madrid, where almost a million people are now in lockdown. They are angry because they think it's
unfairly targeting the poor.
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ANDERSON: And of course, as you would expect in and spread out across Europe so we can connect you to everything that is happening. Let's get you
first as Scott McLean, who is in London. Scott, Matt Hancock, who is the Health Minister speaking on the BBC earlier, calling for everyone to follow
the rules or risk another national lockdown. The question is are people in the U.K. taking this seriously enough or are they suffering pandemic
fatigue at this point?
SCOTT MCLEAN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I think everyone's suffering a little bit of pandemic feed or fatigue to be -- to be honest with you
here, Becky, that's probably not unique to the U.K. by any stretch. But what's interesting here is just as President Trump says that the U.S. is
rounding the corner of the pandemic. Health advisors here were quite blunt that the U.K. has turned a corner in a bad way meaning things are getting
much worse.
They announced this morning that the pandemic was doubling every seven days or the number of cases were doubling every seven days. And if you follow
that trajectory in just four weeks, the U.K. could have some 50,000 cases per day.
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MCLEAN: That's more even than the United States has. The U.K. has just last week announced new measures, they could have some 50,000 cases per day
that's more even than the United States has. The U.K. has just -- last week announced new measures to clamp down on social gatherings limiting them to
just six. They have also in some places limited almost all the in person social interactions with people outside of your own household.
But a week on it's not really clear whether those message or whether those measures are having much of an impact. Today, Britain's Chief Medical
adviser said everyone has to do their part. Listen.
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CHRIS WHITTY, U.K. CHIEF MEDICAL ADVISOR: If I as an individual increased my risk, I increase the risk to everyone around me and then everyone who's
a contact to theirs. And sooner or later the chain will lead to people who are vulnerable or elderly or have a long-term problem from COVID. So, you
cannot in an epidemic, just take your own risk. Unfortunately, you're taking risk on behalf of everybody else. It's important that we see this as
something we have to do collectively.
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ANDERSON: Some warning then from Chris witty. Meanwhile, Patrick Valance. And these are two characters that the Brits are now very familiar with.
They've been seeing these two men since March. Patrick valance is U.K.'s Chief Scientific adviser. He says the U.K. is heading in the right
direction for a COVID vaccine, Scott. Have a listen to this.
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PATRICK VALANCE, U.K. CHIEF SCIENTIFIC ADVISER: The U.K. therefore has put itself in a good position in terms of vaccine supply, and the possibility
that one of these will work. We don't yet know that they will work. But there is increasing evidence that it's pointed in the right direction. And
it's possible with some vaccine could be available before the end of the year in small amounts for certain groups, much more likely that we'll see
vaccines becoming available over the first half of next year. Again, not certain, but pointed in the right direction.
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ANDERSON: Scott, we have reported extensively on those in the U.S. who are hesitant to take a vaccine, antivaxxers. Many call these people. What's the
attitude towards vaccines from the British population?
MCLEAN: Yes, it is certainly a great question, Becky, the U.K. is in good hands when it comes to vaccines assuming that everyone actually wants to
get one. Right now, there are some 40 different vaccines that are in clinical trials, many of them are in the late, late stages. And so, we
could have one quite soon. But regardless of whether or not Brits are sort of keen to jump and actually take that vaccine, the bottom line is, there's
not going to be one available until as you heard they're at the very earliest, sometime early next year.
So, the bottom line that health officials here are making is that look, we have to buckle up, we have to do what we need to do right now to sort of
tamp down this virus. And so, the bottom line is people need to follow the rules as they are before, as the health secretary said over the weekend,
before the cavalry comes in mass testing, vaccines and obviously better health treatments as well.
ANDERSON: The cavalry being a general lockdown. Scott, thank you for that. Let me bring back those numbers that we were looking at earlier for you,
viewers. With France, seeing its highest daily case numbers in months, I want to get you on the ground there in central Paris, where Melissa Bell is
standing by. And we just heard of the potential for a second national lockdown in the U.K. Is that also on the cards in France?
MELISSA BELL, CNN PARIS CORRESPONDENT: Now what we've seen here on the continent in Europe, Becky, is on the contrary authorities saying that
really this is simply not something they're willing to consider, given the costs of it economically, these are not economies they say that could bear
the brunt of a second general lockdown. And yet who knows, we may come to that.
For the time being though, we've been heading in another direction here on the European continent, France, delegating down to local authorities, the
powers necessary to try and bring their numbers under control. And what we've seen here in Europe is a rise in those big urban centers. As people,
Becky, have gone back to work, they've gone back to school, they found themselves in city environments with all that affluence around them.
The numbers here in Paris as an example have shot up but in other European cities as well. Hence what you're seeing now in Madrid. This is something
pretty new, those kind of lock downs that we'd seen back in the spring in several European countries on a national basis decided instead on a city-
wide basis with as you say, all those questions that go with it. We're talking about six districts in the south of Madrid, with 850,000 people who
from today are confined much as we all were back in March.
But this time, it's not the entire country. It's not even the richer suburbs of the city. So, a whole host of new questions that raised
themselves. But I think this is something we might be seeing more and more over the coming weeks, because the figures are rising show so sharply,
because they rise in clusters around big cities with such a strain on the city's health care systems.
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BELL: Individual cities perhaps deciding we're having a poster up on them lockdown restrictions in order to avoid them being imposed at a national
level.
ANDERSON: Things are clearly very tough on the continent. Thank you for that. So, we're looking at a picture which basically says Europe equals
more cases, more restrictions. But the story very different in Sweden, which is keeping open now much as it did. During the first wave. My
colleague Max Foster spoke to Swedes about attitudes towards a pandemic and indeed, towards a COVID vaccine Have a listen to what they told, Max.
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MAX FOSTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No lockdown, and few masks if any at all. Sweden tends to avoid issuing mandates when voluntary guidelines are
usually enough. Many here feel that approach has been vindicated by the latest pandemic numbers. After a spike in coronavirus deaths, mainly
amongst the elderly. Mortality is now down to normal seasonal levels. infection rates are also falling as they surge elsewhere in Europe, where
local lockdowns is still part of the strategy.
Sweden increasingly a shining example for American conservatives who oppose masks and lockdown. All eyes now on how they handle the vaccine. We already
know their plan.
The Swedish British pharmaceuticals chance, AstraZeneca is one of the frontrunners in developing a coronavirus vaccine. If and when they succeed,
adults will be advised by the health authorities here to take it or the approved alternative and starting with the most vulnerable. There's no real
debate here about mandated vaccination.
ANDERS TEGNELL, CHIEF EPIDEMIOLOGIST: We worked with voluntary vaccination during the last pandemic and Sweden probably reached the highest rate of
vaccination anywhere in the world.
FOSTER: Chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell known as the architects of Sweden's COVID-19 pandemic response, children won't be advised to take the
vaccine at all, at least at first, because they aren't considered spreaders of the virus.
TEGNELL: We have very little data that spread of disease at all. So, at least in the beginning to vaccinate children will be not the most relevant
action to take. The most relevant action to take is to vaccinate the people that are really at risk, which are mainly the elderly, and people working
with them in health care and social care.
FOSTER: But members of this family aren't sure they would ever take part in another vaccination program after the last one. Their 13-year-old who
doesn't want to be named as the chronic sleep disorder narcolepsy, which his doctor says was triggered by the swine flu immunizations of 2009. A
vaccine hastily rolled out in Europe at the time has been linked to an increasing cases leaving this family and others wary of vaccination.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After school we don't have energy to do stuff, saying just go home and
play video games.
FOSTER: His father says he wouldn't take another vaccine unless there was a guarantee of compensation for side effects.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I think I will doubt to take.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Same. But I'm his stepmother. I live with him every other week. And I see what happened to him.
FOSTER: If a vaccine suddenly appears for the virus, so you'd like me to take it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
FOSTER: Why not?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm scared of it, though in the beginning. Yes. I don't -- I feel I'm strong enough without it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I won't do it.
FOSTER: Why not?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because I think it's too early. They can try first on some other people.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think I'd take it.
FOSTER: Why is that?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If it's safe, then -- if it helps, then why wouldn't I?
FOSTER: Sweden's National Health Agency says all the parties involved in developing a new vaccine are doing everything possible to prevent dangerous
side effects ever happening again.
Swedes have a reputation for following official advice on medication without questioning it. But even here, you'll find plenty who won't be at
the front of the line for a brand-new coronavirus vaccine. That raises the question of whether we'll ever be rid of this deadly and endlessly
disruptive virus. Max Foster, CNN, Stockholm, Sweden.
ANDERSON: That's the story in Sweden. Quite different from the rest of Europe of course, which is seeing record highs in new cases. The United
States now on the verge of 200,000 American lives lost to COVID-19 so far.
Well, the bell at Washington's National Cathedral told 200 times on Sunday, once for every thousand lives lost in the pandemic.
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ANDERSON: Democrats outside the White House outside the White House lit up a sign that read "Trump lied 200,000 plus have died."
I just want to take a quick look at the big board for you at this point, the Dow is continuing what is a downward trend to start this week? There
are those who say virus fears hurting this market stimulus uncertainty of course, let's not forget there was a key level of 27,000 there and that's
likely to have triggered selling programs. So, when you see these numbers knock around at specific levels, you can probably blame the market as much
on a -- on a -- on a technical issue as you can on any sort of overarching atmosphere.
But certainly, the idea that this stimulus program is still outstanding that these fears over COVID continue to worry people not helping the
markets today the Dow Jones Industrial Average down over 2-1/2 percent.
Let's get you up to speed on some of the other stories that are on our radar right now. Lebanon report 779 new coronavirus cases in the past a
day, that's the highest number since the pandemic began. The total case count has now their past 28,000 people, 286 have died. The surge comes as
Lebanon recovers from the port explosion last month of course it killed almost 200 people.
New Zealand has dropped COVID-19 social distancing restrictions for all areas of the country expect -- except its most populous city, Auckland.
That city will remain on level two restrictions until at least October, the seventh meaning no gatherings of more than 100 people and mandatory mask
wearing on public transportation.
And Australia's Victoria stage recorded 11 new coronavirus cases suddenly. That is the lowest number of new infections in over three months.
Victoria's largest city Melbourne could begin easing restrictions if cases remain low. Victoria recorded some 20,000 total cases and more than 760
deaths.
Well, the death of a U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg as Republicans backtracking on promises they made four years ago about
choosing an election year replacement.
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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): Let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination and you could use my words against me.
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ANDERSON: Well, promises a lot. Lindsey Graham has a very different opinion in 2020. That is up next.
And later this hour, thousands of wildfires raging unabated through pristine wetlands.
In Brazil, if you ask its president, he says he is doing a stellar job on the environment.
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ANDERSON: (INAUDIBLE) to have the U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg draped in black today to one of the second woman ever appointed to
America's highest court. Ginsburg died Friday at the age of 87 after battling pancreatic cancer. All weekend long mourners flocked to the
grounds outside the Supreme Court paying tribute to the woman who served as the court's liberal standard bearer on issues like civil rights, equal
protections and abortion.
Ginsburg was more than a high court justice. She was a cultural icon, the notorious RBG whose dying wish was that she not be replaced before the U.S.
election. President Donald Trump and his Republican allies are forging Full speed ahead to nominate a successor in some cases, defying promises they
made four years ago to do the exact opposite if the situation arose. Well, the president says he plans to name his nominee for the court this Friday
or Saturday. Joe Johns has more on what comes next.
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JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: A Supreme Court fight brewing on Capitol Hill. Less than 24 hours after justice Ruth Bader
Ginsburg died Friday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, vowing President Trump's nominee to replace her will get a vote in the Senate.
President Trump says he will put forward his nominee this week.
TRUMP: It will be a woman, a very talented, very brilliant.
JOHNS: Senate Republicans arguing it is their constitutional duty to fill the seat.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX): I believe the right thing to do is for the Senate to take up this nomination and to confirm the nominee before election day.
JOHNS: But Republicans led by McConnell refused to give President Barack Obama's Supreme Court pick Merrick Garland a vote. Despite that nomination
coming nearly eight months before the 2016 election.
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY): This nomination ought to be made by the president, we're in the process of electing this year.
JOHNS: Shortly after his inauguration, Trump nominated Neil Gorsuch to the court to fill the seat. In 2016, Senator Lindsey Graham, who now chairs the
Judiciary Committee highlighted the new precedent.
GRAHAM: I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016, and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term,
you can say Lindsey Graham said let's let the next president whoever it might be, make that nomination.
JOHNS: And again in 2018.
GRAHAM: If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process is started. We'll wait to the next election.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're on the record.
GRAHAM: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. Hold the tape.
JOHNS: But now Graham and his own tight reelection campaign says he will support a Trump Supreme Court nominee, Democratic presidential nominee Joe
Biden, imploring Republicans not to move forward with any nominee.
JOE BIDEN, UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Don't vote to confirm anyone nominated under the circumstances President Trump and
Senator McConnell have created, don't go there. Uphold your constitutional duty. Your conscience, let the people speak.
JOHNS: it would take four Republican senators breaking ranks to block Trump's nominee and several vulnerable Senate Republicans are in tight
reelection races that could change the balance of power in the Senate. Senator Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski have already said they do not
support filling the seat before the election. But it is unclear if that means they will vote against a nominee.
The Democratic leadership vowing to fight back even considering increasing the number of justices on the Supreme Court.
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): We first have to win the majority before that can happen. But once we win the majority, God willing, everything is on the
table.
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ANDERSON: Joe John's reporting there. And I quote here, "The death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg on Friday injected an extraordinary new dimension into what
was already shaping up as the most contentious election in decades." Those the words of CNN Stephen Collinson in an article on cnn.com over the
weekend. Well, former President Bill Clinton nominated Ginsburg to the court in 1993.
He says 40 candidates, 4-0 candidates were considered then narrowed down to five but he says after talking with Ginsburg, for 10 minutes, he knew he
should appoint her.
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BILL CLINTON, FORMER UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: She was a force for equality for men as well as women. For example. She was consistent. And she did it
in a way that was level headed and on the level and respectful of different opinions and the other judges on the court. So, she was highly respected,
because she bent over backwards to work with the other judges when she could and she stood up and was counted when she couldn't.
I mean, she just -- and of course along the way, she became kind of a cultural icon which surprised even me, I think
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ANDERSON: Bill Clinton speaking of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And one final note on her passing, and I must recommend you look for the Oscar nominated
documentary RGB, which chronicles her life. RGB was produced by CNN films and is available on different streaming platforms all over the world,
wherever you are watching. I live here in the UAE, I watched this on a platform here over the weekend and I had forgotten just how good the
documentary is.
And what a remarkable life RGB had. And across America, people are paying tribute to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, including in Washington where two artists
have painted a mural in her honor, we will be back with more news after this short break. But I want to leave you with these images of this mural
of the notorious RBG.
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ANDERSON: This was the scene 75 years ago at the Opera House in San Francisco in California. Delegates from around the world voting on the
charter that would face global challenges in a world still in pain from World War II as the United Nations Today marks those 75 years. The world is
at war with a very different scourge, that of the coronavirus pandemic.
Meanwhile, the U.N.'s big yearly bash its general assembly or UNGA, as it's known kicks off Tuesday, but this time around digital diplomacy will
absolutely take center stage because of the pandemic. The icon assembly hall -- iconic assembly hall won't be entirely empty about 200 people. Will
gather there instead of the usual 2500. One diplomat from each country will introduce the videotape to speech of their leader.
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ANDERSON: Virtual meetings will also take place on the sidelines. This will come at a time when global cooperation across borders is so desperately
needed. The COVID-19 pandemic is one of our greatest geopolitical tests, will it bring the world together or lead to greater mistrust between
states? Well, COVID-19 has, of course collided with -- and worsens what are already existing crises from the environment to various conflicts.
All of which come under one of the main pillars of the United Nations, which of course is human rights. After all, the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights was made just a few years after the United Nations itself was born. Antonio Guterres, United Nations Secretary General says his goal for
the United Nations as it marks its 75th anniversary is to promote a human rights vision that is transformative and provides solutions. Adding that we
must protect the rights of future generations.
Well, the government of China's Xinjiang region denying allegations of forced sterilizations imposed on ethnic Uyghurs. Response comes weeks after
a CNN report broadcast on July 31st, documenting a campaign of abuse against women from Muslim ethnic minorities in Xinjiang region where the
authorities have been accused of putting hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs into internment camps.
CNNs Ivan Watson reports. The government they're confirmed CNN reporting that there has been a clear recent drop in birth rates in the region. Have
a look at this.
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IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Week's after CNN broadcast a report on July 31st, detailing a pattern of abuse against
Uighur women in Xinjiang. The Xinjiang regional government sent CNN this six-page response. It does not challenge nor deny Chinese government
statistics published by CNN, which document a recent surge in sterilization procedures and IUD implantations.
Instead, the Xinjian government confirms that the region's birthrate suddenly dropped by a third in the span of one year from 2017 to 2018. The
government calls this a remarkable result of better enforcement of the country's family planning policies, claiming that "The number of people who
voluntarily choose to receive free tubal ligation and intrauterine device has largely increased."
The government says in 2018, the number of newborns decreased by approximately 120,000 compared with 2017. The Xinjiang government attacked
academic Adrian Zenz who first revealed the sudden surge in sterilization procedures in Xinjiang using Chinese government statistics. The government
claims all of those sterilizations were voluntary, and accuses Zenz of fabricating lies.
Zen says the government is resorting to personal attacks because it cannot dispute his research. The Xinjiang government also attacked the testimony
of Zumrat Dawut, an ethnic Uyghur from Xinjiang who told CNN she was forced to undergo a tubal ligation. The Xinjiang government says the sterilization
procedure was voluntary, adding that she signed a consent form. But Dawut says Chinese officials threatened to confiscate her passport and revoke her
Pakistani husbands visa to China if she did not submit to the sterilization procedure.
Finally, the Xinjiang government confirmed CNN's report that Gulbahar Jalilova a citizen of Kazakhstan was detained on suspicion of aiding
terrorist activities for more than 15 months before being released without explanation.
The government denies Jalilova's claims she was tortured, and sexually assaulted. Jalilova stands by her claims and is calling on the Chinese
government to release surveillance footage revealing conditions she endured in detention. An ordeal that she says left her with sores across her body
months after her release.
The Xinjiang government also repeated the argument Chinese officials have used to justify the plummeting birth rate in the region. For decades, they
argue, ethnic minorities such as the Uyghurs were allowed to have more children than China's Hahn majority under the country's strict quota system
which changed in 2016.
This imbalance is now being fixed, the Xinjiang government says, as it, quote, "implements the family planning policy in accordance with the law".
But critics say, the surge in sterilizations and IUD placements could meet a United Nations definition of genocide which includes imposing measures
intended to prevent births that target a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.
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WATSON: An accusation, the Xinjiang government strenuously denies.
Ivan Watson, CNN Hong Kong.
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ANDERSON: And to watch Ivan's original report, one that prompted this denial from Chinese officials do head to cnn.com. More from us, just head.
Stay with us.
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JIMMY KIMMEL AMERICAN TELEVISION HOST: We've taken every safety precaution and these are tonight's nominees. Hello, everybody.
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ANDERSON: And that is how the Emmys (INAUDIBLE) best in U.S. television pull off an award show during a pandemic. They use more than 130 different
live cameras all over the world to take viewers into the homes of the nominees. And to hand out the trophies. Host Jimmy Kimmel was joined by
presenters in an empty auditorium while representatives in hazmat tuxedos were sent to the winners' homes to handout their awards.
Big winners (INAUDIBLE) were the cost of Schitts Creek, who swept all four comedic acting categories. HBO succession, which one outstanding drama
series and 24-year-old Zendaya who took home the award for outstanding leading actress in a Drama. Winners and presenters like actress Regina King
wore outfits with the name of Breanna Taylor and the Black Lives Matter movement.
Well, from Hollywood to the world of sports where a man known as the scientist. Yes, we are talking about golf not the pandemic has made a
victory pot at the U.S. Open.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Bryson DeChambeau --
ANDERSON: Oh, Don, what a moment for Bryson DeChambeau.
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DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORTS ANCHOR: What a moment for the game of golf actually, Becky. This could be one of those kind of game changing moments.
He was one of the most fascinating characters in the game. He was already one of the biggest stories in more ways than one in 2020. And the way he
goes about playing the game really could change things. And who knows? This is his first but it could just be the beginning for him as well.
ANDERSON: Absolutely remarkable. Good stuff. Don is with you after the break with World Sport. I'll be back at the top of the hour with CONNECT
THE WORLD. Stay with us.
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