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UK Health Authorities Fear Winter Peak as COVID Cases Soar; Space Debris a Growing Problem in Earth's Orbit; Norway using Satellite Monitoring to Fight Deforestation; Heavy Rainfall and Flooding Kill Dozens in India, Nepal; Kremlin: Putin will not Attend COP26 Climate Summit. Aired 11a-12p ET
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST, CONNECT THE WORLD: I'm Becky Anderson. Hello and welcome to the second hour of "Connect the World" and here we are again at
least in the Northern Hemisphere.
People are worrying about winter, surge in COVID cases and vaccine immunity is waning. But there is a difference this time around in the pandemic is
called a temperature setting across Europe and the U.S. boosters are becoming a big deal.
Just today we're hearing COVID boosters, doses may be available soon to Americans as young as 14. A source tells CNN U.S. health officials are
likely to recommend lowering the age for Pfizer and Moderna's boosters. Well, in the UK, confirmed cases are spiking dramatically. And that is got
British health officials warning of a potential winter crisis unless the government rolls out its plan B strategy.
The UK health secretary is holding a news conference in the next hour. We'll bring that to you live. CNN's Fred Pleitgen is in London for us. And
what does the plan B strategy mean? And why might it be necessary?
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: What really means more strict measures? And if you look at what's going on right now, which
is of course Plan A.
A lot of that has to do, for instance, with booster shots also with recommendations to wear masks in certain places, but not really any
mandates. And that's really one of the things that the head of the Confederation of the NHS is saying he believes needs to, there needs to be
more of it needs to be escalated to that, as you put it Plan B and as he put it Plan B as well to have mask mandates in certain places also to put
in physical distancing as well.
And perhaps some areas where you can only get into certain places if you've actually been vaccinated. Now, the head of the Confederation of the NHS
says he believes that that's going to be necessary because of the rising numbers in this country.
It's quite interesting to see over the past seven days, it's been a daily new infection total of more than 40,000, in fact on Monday was 49,000. I
was looking at the numbers from yesterday that have come out it's about 43,000. So still very, very high.
Also hospitalizations are going up. And it's exactly what you were talking about, Becky, it's the fear that this winter could be a winter of crisis if
new measures aren't being put in place. I want to listen in to some of what the Head of the Confederation of the NHS had to say on why this is
necessary. Let's have a listen.
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MATTHEW TAYLOR, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, NHS CONFEDERATION: We know that things are almost inevitably going to get worse. And the question is simply this. Do
we accept some inconveniences, inconveniences of plan B?
And do we recognize as a nation we need to get behind our health care system over the next month? Or do we somehow cross our fingers and hope
that the almost inevitable doesn't happen and stumbled into a crisis.
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PLEITGEN: Now the government here in this country, Becky, of course, someone have a different opinion. In fact, the Business Secretary, he came
out and he said that he says that there is not going to be a lockdown.
He says that some of the talk that he's hearing, for instance of travel restrictions as well is unhelpful at this point in time, Becky.
ANDERSON: Yes, at this point in time, it does seem as if perhaps mask mandates and the imposition of social distancing maybe the - or re
imposition maybe be the way they go, more on that during the next hour when we hear from the UK Government. Thank you.
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ANDERSON: Russia taking a more stringent approach. President Vladimir Putin has just approved a week away from the workplace, so frightening alarming
surge of COVID cases there.
The Mayor of Moscow has already ordered a four month lockdown for unvaccinated seniors starting on Monday. Unvaccinated people over 60 and
older are being told to stay home and leave until at least the last week in February.
Sam Kylie joining us now from the Russian Capitol and explain why it is that these measures are seem to be so important.
SAM KYLIE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's very straightforward, Becky, it's all about the numbers. The latest number from
today is 1028 deaths in Russia across the nation from COVID.
Some 34,000 new infections, although that's believed to be a significant underestimate, because of the lack of testing here something that Vladimir
Putin himself is saying needs to be addressed.
They need he says to get on the front foot in terms of testing, but there is a deep concern really about the lack of vaccine uptake here, Becky. I've
calculated that about 28, just over 28 percent of the population, a population of over 140 million has been vaccinated.
They've only got access to Russian manufactured indigenously manufactured vaccines. But that there is a deep concern from the Kremlin down, that the
numbers are simply not rising fast enough in the terms of people getting vaccinated.
So implicit there in the Mayor of Moscow, the Capitol saying that seniors must stay at home for the next four months, if they're unvaccinated.
It is a pressure to get out and get vaccinated and then get out of the flat to a home where you're effectively going to be locked down. These are sorts
of nudges that are being conducted across the nation, Becky.
ANDERSON: Sam Kiley is in Moscow for you. Russia is having to undergo these stringent measures, even though about a third of its population is fully
vaccinated as Sam reported there. In other countries, the vaccination rate is even lower, as you can see here, especially in Africa.
And critics argue that rolling up booster shots in some countries, while others struggle to even get a first dose for their citizens is absolutely
not the right thing to do. Listen to what the W.H.O Chief told me last week.
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TEDROS ADHANOM GHEBREYESUS, DIRECTOR GENERAL, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION: Bringing it back to boosters, when there is only 166 million delivered in
Africa for 1.2 billion. To start booster is really the worst we could do as a global community. It's unjust, and also unfair because we will not stop
this pandemic by ignoring the whole continent. And the continent which doesn't have any manufacturing capacity or other means.
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ANDERSON: Well, Brazil is one place that can make its own vaccines and is working on developing new ones. Still, it's positioned at number two on
what is a grim list of total COVID deaths by country.
And its president who joked last year about the virus and called it a little flu is now being accused of crimes against humanity. A group of
senators has been looking into the President's handling of the Pandemic and a leaked document shows they were considering recommended charges of mass
homicide and genocide.
They have now decided to drop that recommendation. But Mr. Bolsonaro will still have to answer allegations of crimes against humanity incitement to
commit crimes and charlatanism.
Let's get to our Shasta Darlington. She is in Sao Paulo in Brazil. This Brazilian parliamentary committee as we understand it says it has changed
what was a homicide accusation against the president for technical reasons. Did they explain what those technical reasons were and why?
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Becky, basically what happened is the author of the -- the main author of the report had written those
recommendations into it for homicide and genocide. And it was leaked before the other members of the panel had reviewed it or put their own input in.
So clearly there wasn't a broad agreement on including those. And in the end what they have agreed to include in the document are 10 charges
including crime against humanity.
Now the reason that the given by the author of the report for having changed that is that these other crimes that they recommend he be charged
to it have more of a legal base. And it does make sense trying to argue genocide or mass homicide would be a lot more difficult than arguing
provoking deaths.
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DARLINGTON: And so in the end, this is what the final document says it's over 1000 pages long however. So the panel, the Senate panel is going to
have a week to look at it. They'll vote on it next Tuesday. They are expected to approve it.
But then it would be sent, it will be sent to the Attorney General, the Attorney General is an ally of Bolsonaro. So it really isn't clear if it'll
go much further than that.
But the other things we know about this report, let's see that there are 69 people being accused, including three of Bolsonaro sons. And that this has
gone on for six months really hitting Bolsonaro's approval rating hard. So even if this doesn't lead to criminal charges, it has had an effect, Becky.
ANDERSON: Shasta Darlington out of Sao Paulo for you this evening. Thank you. World number one Novak Djokovic is planned to defend his Australian
Open title is now in doubt due to COVID restrictions.
Australia's Immigration Minister says the tennis player will not be allowed to enter the country unless he is fully vaccinated just like any other
traveler arriving there. Djokovic is refusing to reveal his vaccination status.
The premier of Victoria States had no special deals will be made to allow unvaccinated athletes to compete in the Grand Slam tournament. Well, Queen
Elizabeth II is said to be reluctantly following medical advice to cancel travel plans and rest.
An 85 year old was supposed to begin a two day trip to Northern Ireland. Today is not clear why she was urged to cancel but sources say this is not
related to Coronavirus. Let's get to our reporter Anna Stewart, who is in London. Do you have any further details?
ANNA STEWART, CNN REPORTER: Now at this stage, all we know is that she's been advised to rest up for a few days and she's doing that in Windsor
Castle on the advice of a medical team. And yes as we understand it from a royal sources isn't COVID related.
She was due to be going to Northern Ireland this afternoon for a two day trip to mark the centenary of the creation of Northern Ireland, she won't
be doing that. She's been incredibly busy in recent days last night hosting a big business summit at Windsor Castle including the likes of Bill Gates.
She's had several zoom calls over the last couple of days with various ambassadors. And she's also due to be attending COP26 in Glasgow which
kicks off at the end of the month.
This is for a 95 year old. I mean it's quite incredible that she does the number of engagements that she does do. And actually in recent weeks we
have been seeing that she's been using a walking stick which we are told is for her comfort.
That says she doesn't appear to feel 95, Becky. She was speaking a while she declined the honor of being offered "Oldie of the Year Award" by a
British magazine this week her private secretary said majesty believes you are as old as you feel as such.
The Queen does not believe she meets the relevant criteria to be able to accept. So let's hope she rests on for a few days and feels much better
soon, Becky.
ANDERSON: I love that story. The magazine I think was the oldie, correct?
STEWART: It wasn't the oldie. I haven't read it myself.
ANDERSON: Now I know people who do, - before Queen Elizabeth II, right. Thank you, Anna. Coming up next, the trouble with space junk, thousands of
objects are clogging up Earth's orbit, but a lot of those satellites are crucial to improving our lives.
I'll speak with some key players who run what's going on up there up next. Plus we'll have the latest on those U.S. based missionaries kidnapped in
Haiti, frustrated Haitians are protesting the lawlessness that has taken hold in their country.
And also ahead Facebook is reportedly about to change its name more on the rebound and the direction the company may be taking as it takes heat from
regulators all over the world. You're watching "Connect the World". I am Becky Anderson. Please stay with us.
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ANDERSON: Well, it is space week here at the Dubai Expo connecting astronauts from around the world. In fact, astronauts from Sweden Brazil,
Japan, and Switzerland and a Russian cosmonaut are gathered together at an event just behind me.
The Al Wasl dome that you can see behind me is the centerpiece here at the expo event. And inside that dome, an event right now called Cosmos that
depicts a journey through these stars. Look at this.
That is the roof of Al Wasl. That is all they told me is one of the world's largest projected screens. And why not project that on a screen like this?
Isn't that remarkable?
Satellites have been a hot topic during space week. But they are a source of a growing problem as well. 30,000 pieces of debris circling above us
right now as we speak plus more than 7000 satellites, they are all whizzing around at thousands of miles an hour there have been more than 570
collisions, explosions or other events causing those objects to break apart.
Those figures are from the European Space Agency. And as we can see from this simulation created by the agency, the problem gets worse by the year.
And Expo 2021 major theme has been how we can live more sustainably here on earth and satellite imagery like this has been a major topic of
conversation.
It is where we see space for good. It can monitor deforestation, for example, pinpoint oil spills, track melting ice and a whole lot more. Will
knowing more help us to do better after endangering the planet during the Industrial Age?
How will we fare in the space age? Well, an awful lot of questions in there to answer those questions, I hope tonight, I've got Luc Piguet, CEO of
ClearSpace, which is working to clean up some of that space debris and Nina Soleng, Head of Communications at Konsberg Satellite Services.
And I know that you want to talk to us about some of that imagery, which is called Earth observation. It's an extremely inexpensive gateway into the
world of space exploration and you will talk to us about just why that is important.
Let's start though with these practical problems, Luc, if we can. What is going on up there? And how does it affect us down here, potentially because
people will freak out when they hear or see data like I've just reported.
LUC PIGUET, CEO, CLEARSPACE: So what's going on up there is that historically, we were launching relatively little numbers of satellites per
year. If you take in the years 2010, we would launch about 100 satellites a year. But now we're shifting to an era where we can launch thousands of
satellites every single year into orbit.
And the problem we have is the fact that a lot of those satellites at the end of the mission just fail to return to Earth atmosphere. So they either
have failure on the satellite. And then at our aspect of it is every time we launch satellites into space, often the upper stage of the rocket bodies
remain in space.
ANDERSON: Right. So I want to just bring up some video here because this is video of one of your satellite capture designs. I just want you to tell us
how this work and again, I'm not suggesting that people will be really freaking out.
I mean you know it worries people. Just explain why you believe that we are safe from the debris that circulates above us.
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PIGUET: So the problem of debris is not really for people on earth. The problem of debris is for other objects and astronauts in space, those
objects are orbiting at 28,000 kilometer per hour. And at these speeds, the energy they carry is huge.
And the problem with that is that they might generate chain events of collisions in degrees that could render Space Operations very difficult or
impossible in specific orbits. So they have to be here.
ANDERSON: So tell us what we are seeing here.
PIGUET: So this is our mission that we lead with European Space Agency where the objective is to demonstrate that we can actually build a tool
truck for space. And the space operation has been a little like a very high speed motorway network that operated for 60 years, without tow truck. So
that's what we're doing --
ANDERSON: So how feasible is the two trucks, right?
PIGUET: So we're actually going to fight in 2025. So today, we are at the stage where robotics, technology, autonomous navigation, communication
systems, everything comes together to a point where that kind of services become possible. And it's not done yet.
But we are right now running on this mission. But there are some other companies working on solutions for the same problem.
ANDERSON: This is all important for you, as you recently launched a program giving access to free and open data to satellite imagery on the world,
tropical rainforests from the operation that you have ongoing.
And your argument is that there is an awful lot of public good to be a pad out of space. This space industry, particularly when it comes to the battle
for climate change.
NINA SOLENG, HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS, KONSBERG SATELLITE SERVICES: Yes, definitely. And that has been a topic the whole week of space week, that
satellites are indispensable tools when it comes to supporting the sustainable sustainability on Earth because satellites provide objective
information.
And we have timelines time series going back to the 80s, showing us, you know, variations and changes over time, and we need the facts.
ANDERSON: And this is an opening source.
SOLENG: Not everything is open source. No. So but that is you mentioned this tropical monitoring program. And that is the groundbreaking thing
about that program, that for the first time this information, this data is openly available for free. And that's, that's through the Norwegian
international climate and forest initiative.
ANDERSON: I just want to bring up some images here. And what our viewers should be able to see now is a satellite image from a company you partner
with Airbus. The enormous European aerospace company right there in the left corner is our studio. So these satellites are really quite powerful,
aren't they?
I mean, this is sort of Earth observation type stuff. And we're just using it as an example over here to, to see what we are doing down on a ship
private companies have access to this type of data without consent. That is a big question.
SOLENG: Yes. So I understand you're talking Yes. So actually, that is something that we as an industry take very seriously. And I guess we
discussed a little bit in difference from what actually the regulation is in space, we have a lot of good regulations on data handling.
And I must say, in the commercial industry, we don't have the resolution to identify people, you know, so it's not really that it's more about the
control and the security about who handles the data.
ANDERSON: So there'd be a convention?
SOLENG: Yes, but there is regulations, there is, you know, in our contracts, there's license agreements; there are national regulatory
regimes and everything. So that's taken care of. But actually what came up this week that I think is really interesting when we talk about that
objective data, and that is so important.
Is that data integrity, data provenance, how do we secure that, that what we are looking at is actually the truth that is not you know, being changed
or altered by accident or intent and that's an interesting topic.
ANDERSON: There are calls for a U.N. convention potentially that will give people some rights in this area. So it'll be interesting to see where that
goes. Partnering with the U.N. and the Airbus, Norway is committed $320 million, as I understand it, per year to stop deforestation using satellite
imagery. How does how does that work?
SOLENG: Yes. So and also it's with you said, partnership, I think that's the key. This only way we can do it is through partnerships. That's also
it's been a key topic this week, International Corporation and partnership. So also planet is part of this year.
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SOLENG: And what we do is that we collect an immense amount of data every month, 46 million square kilometers, we are covering the world's tropical
forests. And every month we are, we are giving out that and making it accessible through several platforms so that people can go in.
And the goal and the point is that when we can see what is happening, when and why understand why it's happening, that's when we can start to do
something about it.
ANDERSON: More than talk, what hopes?
SOLENG: Yes.
ANDERSON: Let's be quite clear those who will be representing us at COP26 for example, next week in Glasgow have access to this imagery. Some of our
viewers will be finding this fascinating conversation because they will have been unaware perhaps quite how much is available.
But our leaders and business leaders they know. So let's see what they are going to do. And the more kind of decisions they can come to. We just get
back to where we started here. I want to bring Luc back in at this point, because those simulated images that we saw earlier from the ESA are really
quite shocking.
You're both hoping that we can be more sustainable in space with the work that's going on. It's absolutely clear on me here at Morgan Stanley talk
about a trillion dollar industry. This is I mean, this is going north right at the moment. How do we become more sustainable in space to both of you,
Luc first?
PIGUET: I think there are multiple measures I've been to that we have to take to make sustainability a reality and space. First one is we have to
make sure we don't produce more debris. By this means that we should have very firm and strict rules on how we do orbit satellites at the end of
their life.
ANDERSON: Like the decommissioned nuclear power stations, for example?
PIGUET: Exactly, it's actually easier, nothing to do. The other one is to make sure that there's a traffic management that is in place that makes
sure because there's a lot of satellites up there. So we need a level of space traffic management, like we have an air traffic management.
And the third element is to make sure that when there's failure rates or objects left up there that we go pick them up, that we can intervene in the
environment and pick out the object that really present the highest level of danger.
ANDERSON: What are you doing as a company to ensure sustainability in space?
SOLENG: Yes, in space. So actually, what we do, we do ground, the ground segment. And I mean, everybody knows about the Rockets because they're very
cool but the antennas are very even cooler because that's the connective tissue that's the lifeline of the satellite.
So that means that we can talk to the satellite and they can tell us how it's doing you know the remaining life time and the position because they
drift.
So we can you know, give that connection between Earth and space and make sure that we do our part during launch and early orbit stages and also the
lifecycle and decommissioning so that sort of will be our role.
ANDERSON: It's fascinating to having you on. As the light show goes on behind us, some remarkable pictures coming out of it tonight. There they
are.
There you go, guys, this the projection in the Al Wasl dome. Just behind us here, you may be able to hear the music, bleeding off my microphone. Isn't
that remarkable? Well, I'll let you guys go because you may just have a chance to nip down and see the show we'll head to Haiti up next here on
"Connect the World". I'm Becky Anderson.
PIGUET: Thank you.
SOLENG: Thank you.
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ANDERSON: Haiti, a country known for gang violence and lawlessness may have reached a tipping point. On Tuesday, Haitians protested the kidnappings of
a group of missionaries from a U.S. based organization.
They are said to be in the hands of one of Haiti's most notorious gangs, which is demanding $1 million for each of those hostages. CNN's Joe Johns
following the developments in Port-au-Prince, what do we know of that group at present? And I know that you have flown over an area run by this gang,
which is Joe, as I understand it, effectively a no go area.
JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right. Well, the group is known Becky as 400 Mawozo that stands for out in the country or people from out in the
country. That's what they are. They're outside the city of Port-au-Prince.
They've been growing in recent years, and exponentially almost since the earthquake in August, as well as the assassination in July of the President
of Haiti, in other words, growing in the vacuum of lawlessness and accountability that was left after all these events that have destabilized
this country.
And so they have taken these missionaries hostage, as you said, 17, $1 million apiece. I spoke to a priest who has been involved in several
actually, perhaps as many as 70 negotiations involving people who have been abducted in this country in recent years.
He's also dealt with 400 Mawozo. He says that they are pretty much all about business and getting money nonetheless, he's very concerned about the
$17 million ransom.
And if a large ransom is paid, what will be the effect on people like himself, and others Americans and foreigners who are in country and now
have a price on their heads. Listen.
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REVEREND RICK FRECHETTE, FOUNDER, ST. LUKE FOUNDATION FOR HAITI: If there's big ransom paid for these people, you can - all of us goodbye because
there's not going to be hope for anybody.
An eight month olds child is in their hands. A three year old child is in their hands, who is different and it's taking on a whole symbolic. It's
taking on a symbolic nature that the individual cases haven't had.
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JOHNS: The authorities have been tight lipped about the negotiations so far, but no indication as of yet that this group has budged on its ransom
demand, Becky.
ANDERSON: Joe Johns is in Haiti for you. Thanks, Joe. Let's get you up to speed on some of the other stories that are on our radar right now. 14
Syrian soldiers were killed when explosives attached to a Military bus blew up in Damascus.
Attacks like this have been rare in the Capitol since President Bashar Al Assad's forces took back control full control of the city no one as of yet
has claimed responsibility for the attack.
Meanwhile, shelling by regime forces killed at least 10 people in rebel held Northwest Syria. UNICEF says at least four children are among the
dead. The regime has ramped up bombing in the area in recent months. The Ethiopian government is carrying out airstrikes for the second day in
Michele. The Capitol the water on Tigray region, the UN says three children were killed in airstrikes on Monday.
A government spokesman says the airstrikes are targeting sites connected to the TPLF, that's the Tigray People's Liberation Front. And record rains and
heavy flooding have killed at least 73 people across India this week.
Floodwaters inundated villages and roadways and destroyed crops. Thousands of people have been evacuated and in neighboring Nepal, more than two dozen
People were killed in heavy rains there.
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ANDERSON: Well, coming up after the break, the Russian president is skipping COP26. What sort of message does that send to other world leaders
as they prepare for next month's key climate summit, more on that after this.
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ANDERSON: Facebook has been in the news a lot in recent years, hasn't it criticized for its business practices and failure to take enough action to
stop mis-information. Well, next week, the company is reportedly going to rename itself that's according to the tech publication ,The Verge.
The rebranding could be an effort to overhaul its reputation. But according to the report, the name change might reflect the direction that Facebook is
actually taking, creating what's known as a metaverse that combines virtual and augmented reality as Facebook spokesman says they do not comment on
rumors or speculation.
Well, the Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin will not attend the COP26 climate summit beginning of next month. However, Russia says it still
plans to participate. Mr. Putin's decision is so or certainly will be seen as a blow to efforts for a new global agreement to curb rising
temperatures.
Meantime, a U.N. report suggests the world is heading in the wrong direction, as many countries look to increase fossil fuel production in the
coming years. Brandon Miller is our Supervising Producer on Climate, joining us now from the CNN Center in Atlanta.
Let's start with Putin not attending this U.N. Climate Summit. He isn't the only significant leader out there. And will this be taken? He's not going?
Will this be taken as a big snob?
BRANDON MILLER, CNN SUPERVISING PRODUCER, CLIMATE: You know it's a great question, Becky, I think it's not good optics. You know, for we've heard
Boris Johnson say he wants all the world leaders to attend Russia is a very critical, you know, sort of one of these climate laggards, if you will for,
you know, the production of fossil fuels and still ramping them up.
So yes, you'd absolutely like to see him there, the Chinese president of Brazil, Australia, some of these others. You know, we know President Biden
will be there from the U.S. with a very big delegation of lots of high ranking members.
So that's really what you want to see because the leaders are going to be there mostly at the beginning, the first couple days of the summit for the
World Leaders Summit on the first and second of November, and you'd like to see them there to build ambition.
That's really what they're there for. You know, I don't think this is a huge blow to the actual inner workings of COP26 you know, Putin not being
at the summit isn't going to make COP26 a success or failure. But you would like to see him there absolutely in the beginning to sort of get a good
head start for sure.
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ANDERSON: Yes. And I think we were reporting that Xi Jinping of China won't be there either. But of course, there will be delegations going. But you
know- -
MILLER: Sure.
ANDERSON: The COP26 organizers, as you rightly point out, we'd love for every significant leader and indeed, every country's leader to be in
attendance. Tell us more about this new report, though. This new U.N. report, briefly that plan fossil fuel output vastly exceeds climate limits?
MILLER: Yes. So it's a U.N. study a report called the production gap report. And it's really, you know, looking at the forecast for energy
production, how we're going to make energy in the year 2030, so for the rest of this decade.
You know, climate change is really global warming isn't really that difficult to understand. We're putting these excess gases through fossil
fuels, carbon dioxide, mainly and methane into the atmosphere, they warmed the planet.
And we know very accurately through science, what that relationship is between warming temperatures and the gases. So it's really just working out
a budget.
We know how many more Giga tons billions of tons of carbon we can put into the atmosphere before we reach 1.5 degrees and two degrees. And just like
you'd work out a budget for your household or for your company, we can do that with those climate thresholds.
And what this tells us by 2030, when we need to be, you know, cutting production in half, we're going to be more than double what we should be to
be at 1.5. So if that was your household income direct be worried about it, yes, absolutely.
ANDERSON: Yes, absolutely. We saw the pleasure sir, thank you and a quick programming note for you. We will have extensive coverage of the COP26
Climate Change Conference in Glasgow, Scotland November the first through the 12th. Tune in to "Connect the World" each day for that.
And the latest climate news and COP 26 developments are @cnn.com/climate. Thank you for joining us today. World Sport is up after this short break,
hosted by Alex Thomas.
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