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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST, CONNECT THE WORLD: Well, this is the scene in Washington, D.C. Donald Trump set to meet with the NATO Chief White House.
The president has promised a major statement on the Russia-Ukraine war. It's 09:00 a.m. There it is 05:00 p.m. in Abu Dhabi.
I'm Becky Anderson from our Middle East Programming Headquarters. You are watching "Connect the World". Also coming up, ceasefire talks between
Israel and Hamas falter in Doha. On the ground in Gaza, an Israeli air strike killed several children waiting to collect water.
New details about a controversial detention center in Florida. The latest details for you coming up. And the search for the missing goes on in Texas
as questions continue about a federal response to these disastrous floods. The stock market in New York opens about 30 minutes from now.
And futures indicating a lower open the main indices this Monday, after President Trump announced 30 percent tariffs on the EU and on Mexico. We
will get you the opening bell on Wall Street at the bottom of this hour. We start though with what could be a big day to advance U.S. efforts to end
Russia's war on Ukraine.
U.S. President Donald Trump meeting NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte in the next hour. After teasing last week that a quote, major statement on
Russia is coming soon. And while we wait for that, the U.S. Senate working on bipartisan legislation that its backers say President Trump needs to end
the conflict. Here's what Republican Lindsey Graham had to say about it on Sunday.
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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): A turning point regarding Russia invasion of Ukraine is coming. Dick and I have got 85 co-sponsors the United States
Senate for congressional sanctions with a sledge hammer available to President Trump to go after Putin's economy and all those countries who
prop up the Putin war machine.
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ANDERSON: Well, that Sledgehammer would allow President Trump to levy 500 percent tariffs on countries that buy Russian uranium gas and oil.
President so far hasn't publicly endorsed the bill. And we will get more on this with CNN's Chief International Security Editor Nick Paton Walsh.
He was connecting us today from London. In Gaza, conditions on the ground are worse than they've ever been. That is the warning from the UN's relief
agency for Palestinians today. The Head of UNRWA says people are being forced to make impossible choices just to get aid.
Well, the comments coming after a new deadly incident at a distribution point. Video obtained by CNN shows the aftermath, and you may find that
distressing. Health officials said Israeli air strike killed several children trying to collect water in central Gaza.
Israeli military says it was aiming for a terrorist, but missed the target. That more with CNN's Jeremy Diamond joining us live, Jeremy.
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Becky, as conditions worsen in the Gaza Strip as the Israeli military continues its bombardment, and as
the hostages continue their 20 plus months in captivity, those ceasefire negotiations that would improve, all of that are simply stalling at this
point.
We are seeing as a major disagreement has surfaced between Israel and Hamas, primarily over the issue of when and whether Israeli troops would
withdraw from certain parts of the Gaza Strip. That seems to be the central sticking point here in these negotiations that, just you know, a week ago
or so, seemed like they were headed for some kind of final agreement, perhaps.
And this is another reminder, Becky, of why when we talk about progress in these negotiations. When we talk about momentum, I'm always going to caveat
those with the fact that there is no deal until all of the points are agreed to. And indeed, the holdup appears to be over primarily this issue
of the Morag Corridor, which is this strip of land that separates the Southern City of Rafah from the rest of the Gaza Strip.
The Israeli military has controlled that corridor as a way to section off the Gaza Strip. And it seems that the Israelis are refusing to withdraw
from that corridor, at least in part. The Israeli Prime Minister has blamed Hamas for the disagreement and for the fact that there is still no deal.
He insisted that Israel is not going to fully withdraw its troops from Gaza to simply allow Hamas to take back control. But we know that there have
been discussions between the United States, Israel as well as the Qatari government, which is a key mediator here, aimed at trying to bridge this
disagreement.
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And also, I should note, from the sources that I've spoken to, aimed at convincing Israel to drop some of its objections to the withdrawal of a
portion of this corridor. We heard President Trump yesterday saying that he is hopeful that an agreement can be reached by week's end, of course, at
the beginning of last week, he made very similar comments.
We also heard from Steve Witkoff, President Trump's Special Envoy on this matter, who said that he was going to be meeting with Qatari officials to
try and cut through some of these disagreements. He said that he was, quote, hopeful about the prospect for a Gaza ceasefire, although we should
know he did not put a timeline on that, Becky.
ANDERSON: Meantime, on the ground, we started with this incident, children killed in trying to collect water the Israeli military suggesting it was
after a terrorist, but didn't get their target. I mean, what more do we know? If we can just provide a little bit of context as these talks
continue, of course.
And we wait to learn whether or not we are looking at a temporary truce at this point, what's been the impact on the Gaza population over the past
couple of weeks?
DIAMOND: Well, the reality, Becky, is that beyond the violence that we have seen take place, whether it is, you know, water distribution points or
these Gaza Humanitarian Foundation sites or even U.N. vehicles trying to make it to the northern part of the Gaza Strip.
All of this is due simply to the fact that Israel is not allowing the necessary quantities of humanitarian aid to enter Gaza in order to
alleviate the crisis that has been gripping the strip for months at this point. And that's simply because Israel has decided to use humanitarian aid
and the entry of it as a leverage point in these negotiations.
We know that one of the outcomes of a ceasefire agreement as stipulated in this draft proposal right now, is that Israel would have to allow heavy
amounts of humanitarian aid to flow into Gaza, and that that would now happen through the United Nations and the traditional humanitarian
channels.
And not through this controversial American and Israeli backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, but we have heard U.N. officials now talking about
the fact that Israel has simply decided to use humanitarian aid as a bargaining chip in a manner in which those officials accuse Israel of
violating international law by doing so.
But the end result of it, on the ground, is that Palestinians, for months now, continue to struggle to meet their basic necessities, whether it is
food, to feed their families, hygiene, to be able to stay healthy, and of course, medical supplies, as Gaza's hospitals and health centers continue
to be decimated by not only months of war, but also simply by the lack of supplies to be able to keep their generators running, to be able to handle
and treat basic conditions in Gaza, all of this is on the line as these ceasefire negotiations continue.
ANDERSON: Yeah. Jeremy, good to have you. Thank you. Well, you're watching "Connect the World" with me Becky Anderson. Still to come, Donald Trump
then set to meet with the NATO Chief at the White House. The president has promised a major statement on the Russia-Ukraine war.
He touted that back end of last week to come today, we are monitoring what is going on there in Washington. More is coming up. And the U.S. President
rallying to his attorney general's side after she sparked a furious MAGA backlash over the Epstein files. We'll get into the details on that just
ahead. And questions around why it took so long for some search and rescue teams to reach flood hit parts of Texas.
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ANDERSON: Well, it is building, at least in principle, to be a big day to advance U.S. efforts to end Russia's war on Ukraine. U.S. President Donald
Trump meeting the NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte next hour after teasing last week that a quote major statement on Russia is coming soon.
And while we wait for that, the U.S. Senate is working on bipartisan legislation that its backers say President Trump needs to end the conflict,
a reminder of what Republican Lindsey Graham had to say about that on Sunday.
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GRAHAM: A turning point regarding Russia invasion of Ukraine is coming, Dick and I have got 85 co-sponsors in the United States Senate for
congressional sanctions with a sledgehammer available to President Trump to go after Putin's economy and all those countries who prop up the Putin war
machine.
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ANDERSON: Well, that Sledgehammer would allow President Trump to levy 500 percent tariffs on countries that buy Russian uranium gas and oil. The
president, so far hasn't publicly endorsed that bill. CNN's Chief International Security Editor Nick Paton Walsh, connecting us from London
today.
So, let's start with the big announcement that Trump's been touting on Ukraine. Do we have any sense of what we should expect at this point?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: I have to be honest. No. I mean, there's lots of suggestions This will involve air
defense mechanisms, but that's been in the open for quite some time now. And indeed, President Zelenskyy of Ukraine said today they had agreement
from Germany to buy two more patriot systems and Norway, another one unclear on delivery there.
That's obviously manufacturer dependent, but it will potentially get Ukraine near the 10 that they say they want. Unclear how many they have,
six or eight, suggests some reports. So, some step forwards there. They urgently need interceptors to go with those missile batteries to allow them
to function and stop Russia's raids every single night.
But now we're dealing into the more complex part here, whether Trump is going to announce funding. Remember, the Trump Administration has not given
new extra money to Ukraine in terms of military assistance since it came to power. Does it tap into the remaining billions left, apparently from the
Biden Administration drawdowns to use that to buy new extra weapons?
Does it give new different capabilities to Ukraine, other than the things it already has? That could be another step potentially the Trump White
House could take. And indeed, too, does the Trump Administration find new money that seems less likely because of the big fuss they're making now
about these patriot missiles essentially being paid for by NATO members like Germany and Norway et cetera.
So, a big change in the Trump positioning. They're willing to countenance giving the high American technology that Ukraine needs. Does that mean more
offensive weapons of a different variety? What we seem to see clearly is we're not likely to see fresh Trump Administration budgetary money going to
Ukraine.
And then there's the whole idea of sanctions, Becky, that you talked about there just now. Look 500 percent tariffs on countries that buy Russian
energy products that would have a massive effect on the global economy. That's basically China and India. China massively dependent on Russia's oil
and gas to keep its economy afloat.
The main customer, frankly, India, another key customer too. Some of that trade is alleged to occur on the sort of gray market of shipping. Both of
those countries get huge amounts of Russian oil, and that does, to some degree keep the global price down. Now it's lower now than it has been for
some time.
But if you suddenly make China and India, make a choice between American economy and Russian energy products, that's going to have an enormous
knock-on effect, tariffs or not, somewhere else within the market.
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So, it's a key decision for Trump here, one that can have an enormous impact on the American economy potentially as well if we go down the road
of sanctions. But let's just step back and remind ourselves about how we've come a remarkable position over the past six months.
A president who thought he'd get peace in 24 hours, who initially was very cozy to Moscow, has seen that, frankly, spurned a lot of niceties, as he's
said, but no real meat in terms of Russia dealing in diplomacy. And now we have a key moment where Ukraine clearly finding its capital city repeatedly
under intense assault, and his air defense is in question.
Now, essentially seeing the possibility of a summer offensive by Russia in the weeks ahead, and perhaps urgently getting American assistance
militarily. Is it too little too late? Has the gap been too damaging? Only the weeks ahead will tell us, Becky.
ANDERSON: So, Nick, how is Russia managing its narrative as this seeming U.S. pivot happens.
WALSH: They have been saying that they still think there's a role for diplomacy here. But ultimately, whatever public noise we've heard from the
Moscow Administration, they haven't really changed their practical behavior on the ground. They offered two very brief unilateral ceasefires that were
mildly ineffective.
But they've continued to incrementally take ground and to arm themselves up and to re recruit and get themselves in a position they need to be, for
this summer offensive and that may indeed be some of the reason why they haven't ever entertained the American proposed ceasefire.
They don't really want to give the message to their troops often, whose morale is flaky, whose circumstances are entirely voluntary, that they're
thinking about making peace with the demon that they've been speaking of for so many years. So, while it's been very easy for Moscow to tap along,
to use Donald Trump's phrase the White House, to talk about the possibility of peace, to have the meetings, to fly to the Gulf and to Istanbul and
engage in those conversations.
They haven't really had to alter their behavior militarily as a result, but they have bought themselves significant amounts of time and domestically to
the message still, while Trump is somebody potentially who they can do more business with, and how, while they are clear, they'd like to see a
strategic detente between the U.S. and Russia.
That's not without them winning under their own terms in Ukraine. And their messaging in terms of what deal would be acceptable to Russia. well, that
went almost back to the very beginning, to the most maximalist terms you could imagine last week when Sergey Lavrov said that they wanted to see a
demilitarization, denazification.
The acceptance that Russia could have the areas of Ukraine that it wanted, some of which it didn't even occupy yet. So, sticking to some degree to
their own position, whilst entertaining the vacillating positions of the Trump White House is where we've seen Moscow go.
The moment we're in now is we're in the summer months where we've seen previous offensives occur. It appears to be Russia's turn now they've
bought time. The question is, can they affect change on the front lines, Becky.
ANDERSON: Yeah, it's fascinating, isn't it? Well, we await those details. Out of Washington today, we will monitor and you will get those, of course,
folks, as soon as we do. Thank you, Nick. We are learning new details about the controversial new migrant detention center in the Florida Everglades,
which has been dubbed Alligator Alcatraz.
According to reporting from the "Miami Herald" and "Tampa Bay Times", more than 700 migrants are being detained there, or may be scheduled to be in
more than 250 of them have no criminal records. The facility has sparked outrage from some immigration rights activists and a number of lawmakers
who call it inhumane and dehumanizing.
Florida's Republican Governor and other supporters have said the facility is necessary to alleviate burdens on the state's law enforcement agencies
and on their jails. Well, CNN's Rafael Romo following the story for us. Rafael, CNN has reached out to the Florida Department of Division of
Emergency Management for comment.
As I understand it, we've not heard back. What more can you tell us about this reporting from the local media there "Miami Herald" and "Tampa Bay
Times".
RAFAEL ROMO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, Becky, it's a very significant report, especially if you consider the rhetoric that we've heard in the
last couple of weeks. You may remember when President Donald Trump toured the migrant detention facility in the Florida Everglades earlier this
month.
He said that it would very soon house some of the most menacing migrants, he says, some of the most vicious people on the planet. But this new report
published Sunday suggests that may not be the case. Hundreds of immigrants with no criminal charges in the United States are being held at Alligator
Alcatraz according to this investigation by the "Miami Herald" and the "Tampa Bay Times", which obtained records about the migrants being held
there.
According to the report, Becky, there are more than 250 people who are listed as having only immigration violations but no criminal convictions,
who are being held together with those accused and convicted of crimes.
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The report says only a third of the detainees have criminal convictions with charges that range from attempted murder to illegal reentry into the
United States as well as traffic violations. The information comes from a list of more than 700 migrants who are either already being held at the
tent facility or are scheduled to be transferred there.
Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was part of a group of Florida elected officials and members of Congress who had access to the migrant
Detention Center on Saturday, for the first time since it opened earlier this month, reacted to the report on Sunday. Let's take a listen.
We don't have that part of the interview, but what she said is that they were very suspect of what they were saying, because they had a bracelet,
meaning the detainees with a system that was red, yellow and green. And she said that they could hardly get up close to any of them, but it was clear
that there were not many red bracelets, meaning that they were not detainees that had convictions.
Wasserman Schultz also said that migrants are packed into what she described as cages with 32 people inside each holding unit and only three
toilets available. So that's the situation, and that's the reason why these Democratic legislators are complaining about the conditions there, Becky.
ANDERSON: Good to have you, sir. Thank you very much indeed. Well U.S. President Trump for throwing his support behind his Attorney General, Pam
Bondi. Here he is giving her a thumbs up at the FIFA Club World Cup final on Sunday in New Jersey. Bondi has sparked a furious MAGA backlash for a
memo, stating there is no evidence that accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein was murdered or kept a client list.
Multiple sources tell CNN, the president personally made phone calls to Bondi's most vocal critics in an effort to tone down their criticism. CNN's
Kevin Liptak has more on the fallout from Washington.
KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: President Trump really spent the weekend trying to quell this political crisis begun last week when the
Justice Department released a memo essentially saying that its case into the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was closed.
That has caused a splintering among President Trump's MAGA base. And now the president is trying to tamp down on the furor. He appeared over the
weekend with his Attorney General Pam Bondi. She was in his box at the FIFA World Cup in New Jersey. She has really been the subject of a lot of ire
from the president's supporters who disagree with her decision to try and put the Epstein matter to rest.
The president wrote on social media on Saturday that he thinks Bondi is doing a fantastic job, and that when it comes to the Epstein case, he
encourages his supporters not to waste their time and energy on the matter. And he says that Epstein, who we should note the president socialized with
in an earlier life, was quote a guy who never dies.
Now this is all, I think, meant to try and quiet some of the outrage. But it's not at all clear that the president has been successful. He also spent
part of Sunday calling some critics of Bondi to reiterate that he stood behind her and that he wanted to put the Epstein matter to rest.
One open question is whether this will all satisfy the disappointment of the Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino, who actually threatened to resign over
this entire matter. He has not shown up to work since there was a dust up in the West Wing last week where he was essentially accused by some of
President Trump's aids of leaking negative information about Bondi.
We should know Bongino has openly said that he doesn't particularly like his job at the FBI. He left quite a lucrative podcasting career to take the
post a podcast. We should mention that often fans some of the conspiracies about Epstein himself. Now, on Sunday, as President Trump was returning
here to Washington from New Jersey, he did say he had spoken to Bongino and essentially said that things had been smoothed over. Listen to what the
president said.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I spoke to him today. Dan Bongino, very good guy. I've known him a long time. I've done
his show many, many times, and he sounded terrific, actually, no, I think he's in good shape.
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LIPTAK: Now, some of Bongino supporters seem to have been holding out hope that the Director of the FBI, Kash Patel might follow Bongino in
threatening to resign, but he essentially put those questions to rest himself over the weekend, saying that he intended to stay in his job for as
long as Trump calls on me.
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Now in his social media post, Trump called on Kash Patel to move on from the Epstein matter to focus in part, on the debunked claims that Trump won
the 2020 election. The president didn't mention Bongino at all in his social media post, I think all raising the question of whether Bongino will
show up to work on Monday morning. Kevin Liptak, CNN --
ANDERSON: Kevin Liptak, reporting for you. Well, coming up, how investors are reacting to Donald Trump's latest tariff threat against major trading
partners, Mexico and the EU. After the recent Houthi attacks on commercial ships in the Red Sea, are we on the precipice of a renewed shipping crisis?
We're going to discuss that with a key expert, that is after this.
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ANDERSON: Welcome back. I'm Becky Anderson in Abu Dhabi. You are watching "Connect the World". These are your headlines this hour. And next hour U.S.
President Donald Trump is set to meet NATO, Secretary General Mark Rutte at the White House after saying that he'd have a major announcement to make on
Russia.
Mr. Trump last week said the U.S. will sell NATO defensive weapons that NATO will then give to Ukraine. The White House meeting comes as U.S.
Senate works on a bill that would allow President Trump to slap huge tariffs on any country buying Russian energy.
On the heels of a deadly weekend in Gaza, the acting head of the UN's relief agency for Palestinians is warning that conditions are worse than
they have ever been. Health officials in Gaza say six children were among 10 people killed on Sunday when an Israeli airstrike hit people near a
water distribution point.
At least 132 people are now confirmed dead after the catastrophic flooding in Central Texas. FEMA, meantime, is facing scrutiny for its response, with
some agency officials pointing to new bureaucratic hurdles that they say led to obstacles to mounting rescue efforts. All right, we are waiting on
the opening bell on Wall Street, beginning of the trading day.
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It is Monday, the 14th of July. All right, and futures markets certainly indicating a lower open, some concern amongst investors after weekend news
that the president would be slapping both Mexico and the EU with 30 percent tariffs. Lot of rhetoric, of course, we know around those tariffs, no real
idea about how they'll land before what is now the new self-imposed deadline by Donald Trump at the beginning of August.
Be that as it may, we've got these markets. Well, they have opened mixed to slightly higher on the NASDAQ. We'll keep an eye on those for you. Let's
turn to the European markets, and those are the following, again, a pretty mixed day. The German market down about 1 percent or just less than that.
The FTSE doing better. The IBEX in Spain, they're a little lower as well.
European Union Trade Ministers are meeting in Brussels after U.S. President Donald Trump threatened that 30 percent tariff and all goods from the EU
have at the same time as slapping these tariffs, or certainly tariff threats, on Mexico. The EU blocks trade commissioner said that the tariff
would effectively knock out transatlantic trade if it goes into place on August the first.
The EU now says it will delay countermeasures against U.S. that were due to take effect today until early August, in time to buy time to negotiate a
deal. Well, meantime, Mexico's President says she is confident her country will reach a trade agreement with the United States.
Well as this tariff back and forth continues, we have also, of course, been looking at global trade. And not only are these trade wars between the U.S.
and other countries, important to consider. Another key concern for the global economy, right there you see the Red Sea beginning at the Suez Canal
through the Bab al-Mandab Strait, two vital trade checkpoints or choke points, they can be.
That area accounting for 12 to 15 percent of global maritime trade, with around a trillion dollars in goods transiting through annually. That's
again under threat by Yemen's Houthi rebels. Two commercial vessels were targeted and sunk last week in attacks that killed and kidnapped multiple
crew members.
This reigniting fears of a renewed shipping crisis as the Houthis vow to continue hitting ships connected to Israel. Want to bring in Richard Meade
is the Editor-in-Chief of Lloyd's Intelligence, a maritime trade tracking service. It's good to have you, sir. Important to have you today, as we
begin this trading week.
I want you just to explain where we are right now after Red Sea traffic has majorly fallen since October 2023, and the start, of course, of the Gaza
conflict. Where do you see things now? And are we on the cusp of a new shipping crisis? What are your thoughts at this point?
RICHARD MEADE, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF LLOYD'S LIST INTELLIGENCE: Well, I wouldn't necessarily characterize it as a new shipping crisis, more a
continuation of the old one. What we've seen since the Houthi attack started is a major rerouting of maritime trade around the southern tip of
Africa rather than going through the Red Sea.
So, we've seen around 60 percent of vessel traffic drop off, and it never returned. So, while we have seen these new attacks, and that obviously has
spooked the market, some extent, they were quite devastating, but the reality is that the ships that have continued to move through the Red Sea,
largely were not being targeted.
Now I don't see that changing. I don't see the 60 percent returning anytime soon, if anything, it just resets the clock in terms of the expectations of
when shipping might start to come back through. For the moment, it remains unchanged.
ANDERSON: How are companies calculating their risks at this point?
MEADE: Well, I think what we've seen is a fairly established risk assessment. So, it is ships that are associated with Israel, with the U.S.,
with the UK. They had been the targets. Now, most of those we'd seen move the other way, going through the long way around into Europe.
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Now that had added cost into the market. It had added a huge amount of additional capacity into the supply chain, but ultimately that has been
fairly steady. 60 percent has been pretty standard for the last year, and a bit. Now, the bits that are fluctuating are those that are prepared to take
the risk.
And we have seen recently an understanding that people were expecting the Red Sea to open up. We've seen seven months with no direct hits on ships,
and people were tentatively starting to think about a world where the Red Sea opens up again. This, as I say, really resets the clock, but we tracked
the ships going through before and after these attacks.
It's an average of around 30 to 33 ships per day. That has remained unchanged. Yesterday, 35 vessels went through this hotspot, and I see that
continuing from now on.
ANDERSON: The U.S. hit the Houthis very hard, then declared a ceasefire with the group. The Houthis themselves signed up. I mean, I don't know
whether that's the right term for, I'm not even sure that there was a document on this, but they agreed to this ceasefire, but suggested they
would continue to attack ships that were bound for or flagged Israeli.
They have said from the outset of this conflict that they will continue to hit Israeli bound shipping as long as the conflict continued. How would you
assess the impact of that U.S. intervention then, because that was supposed to sort of open up these global shipping lanes, wasn't it? And the U.S.
certainly sort of declaring victory on that.
MEADE: Not just the U.S., the EU has a naval operation there as well, supposedly, to secure freedom of navigation. But the reality is, that
hasn't worked. I think in terms of the Israeli designations, it's interesting, the ships themselves that were hit last week had not called in
Israel, but they were associated with the owners who owned other vessels who had called in Israel.
So that's the sort of level of targeting that is being applied here. And I think that will probably allow some people to reassess their risk
assessments in terms of whether ships do or don't go, but I think what is clear here is, despite the U.S. attacks, despite the EU naval operations,
there is no freedom of navigation if you are in any way associated with Israel.
ANDERSON: Reuters reporting that ships are now broadcasting messages about their nationality and religion to avoid being targeted. One message read
all crew Muslim, others making clear that they have no connection to Israel. Is that what this has come to at this point?
MEADE: It has, and this has been fairly standard. At the point that this started, we saw various different messages being signaled. This is a
manually updated message that goes off the satellite signal from ships and can be seen visually on screens. And we saw initial messages to the effect
of we have armed guards on board.
We are a Chinese owned ship. We are Russian was another one, but they appear to have moved now to we are Muslim crew, in the hope that that may
be enough of a signal to ward off a Houthi attack. The reality is, I don't think that really matters. If the Houthis wanted to hit a ship, it would be
done on the basis of an association with Israel, either real or perceived. I don't think they're necessarily looking at these things.
ANDERSON: Bottom line briefly, where do we go from here?
MEADE: Well, I think, as I say that the clock has been reset. I don't see the Red Sea reopening this year. I think people will be looking at this
very closely in the context of Middle East peace discussions, but given the fact that over 60 percent of trade has not gone back, and we already have
choke point risk in other major areas of trade lanes. I think we're going to see this as a continuation of the new normal for the moment.
ANDERSON: Good to have you sir. Thank you very much indeed. An important story and good to get your deep experience and insight. Thank you. Still to
come. It may not be Federer and Nadal just yet, but men's tennis has a fascinating new rivalry. And the young stars fought it out on center court
at Wimbledon on Sunday. "World Sport", just ahead.
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ANDERSON: Right, Wimbledon crowned a new king on Sunday after a gripping men's singles final that ran to four sets. Jannik Sinner rallied from a set
down to beat defending champion Carlos Alcaraz and win his first Wimbledon title. Don Riddell joining me now with more.
And these two, Don, creating an incredible rivalry. One is used for years to come. How do they stack up to this great rival whose you and I have
reveled it as long as we've been watching, you think?
DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: It's up there. I mean, as you say, Becky, its early days, and hopefully we'll get another 10 or maybe even 15 years out
of these two. But yeah, I mean, it is absolutely up there, what they have achieved. And, you know, we've had 20 years of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.
And I don't think any tennis fan would have believed in their wildest dreams that they could have two more players who were so exceptionally
talented and successful with yet another compelling rivalry within this wonderful sport. Yeah, this final wasn't quite as good as the French Open
final they played five weeks ago, but it was still exceptional.
ANDERSON: Right.
RIDDELL: And I think for the rivalry between them, I think it was important that Sinner got this one. And yeah, I mean, just can't wait to see what
happens next with these two guys.
ANDERSON: Yeah, I'm thinking they're the fifth iteration of great sort of men's rivalries that I can remember. And I'm thinking, you know, I probably
start off with McEnroe and Connors.
RIDDELL: Right.
ANDERSON: But I could probably take myself slightly before that as well. But it is wonderful to see these two play and a terrific game. And I know
it's a terrific match. Sorry, I know that you were you -- going to have more on that in "World Sport". That is coming up in 15 minutes time. Good
to have you, Don.
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