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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Live from CNN London, this is CONNECT THE WORLD with Becky Anderson.
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST (voice-over): And welcome to the second hour of the show. I'm Becky Anderson in London, where the time is just after 3:00
in the afternoon.
Well, another stark milestone in Gaza, where officials say more than 60,000 Palestinians have been killed since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Aid
organizations say doctors are fainting even as they battle to keep their patients alive.
President Trump says he is ending wars all over the world as his tone on Ukraine and Gaza appears to shift.
But how much actual change will we see?
And India overtakes China as the leading exporter of smartphones to the United States even as China-U.S. trade talks continue.
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ANDERSON: One of the worst-case scenarios of famine now unfolding in Gaza. That is the grim alert issued today by a U.N.-backed monitor. And the
numbers are startling.
The IPC saying more than 20,000 children in Gaza were admitted to be treated for acute malnutrition between April and mid-July, with more than
3,000 of them severely malnourished. Gaza health officials say nearly 100 children have died of starvation.
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ANDERSON (voice-over): You can see the daily struggle here; children trying to collect remnants of flour from the top of a vehicle parked in
northern Gaza.
The IPC is calling for an immediate, large-scale humanitarian response.
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ANDERSON: Its alert coming out one day after U.S. president Donald Trump contradicted Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's comment, that
there is no starvation happening now in Gaza.
Nic Robertson, back with us this hour from Sderot, which is along Israel's northern border with the enclave.
And you are there. Get us up to speed with what is happening in Gaza as we speak.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Along the northern border, where we are, Becky, very little aid seems to be going into Gaza. We
haven't seen any convoys of trucks going in.
Of course, there could be convoys of aid going in south of here. And the Israeli body that deals with that, COGAT, said yesterday 260 trucks' worth
of aid got into Gaza, 200 trucks' worth of aid was distributed.
The IDF has saying they're having tactical pauses between 10 am and 8 pm in the evening, where they won't be having any military combat in localized
areas so that aid can get in.
But the picture from the northern border along here, where we've been just in the last couple of minutes, we've seen airstrikes. There have been a
number of airstrikes over the last several hours while we've been here, a lot of fighter jet activity. The sounds of battle indeed going on in Gaza.
That activity won't make getting aid in from the north any easier. And in that situation of limited aid getting in, those 200 trucks yesterday, 600 a
day at least are required, according to the U.N.
That limited amount of aid is causing this dire situation of malnutrition and starving. One family that CNN met a couple of weeks ago inside of Gaza
with their starving daughter, Zainab, became victims and statistics in the harrowing numbers of people who are now losing children. This is a very
disturbing report we're about to see.
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ROBERTSON (voice-over): Baby Zainab cradled in her father's loving arms, fought for life as long as she could. Her tiny emaciated body a now silent
witness to Gaza's new horror, malnutrition.
Once a happy, healthy baby, dead at five months old. She passed away as her mother carried her to the hospital for a checkup.
This is her photo before she got sick, she says and this is the medical referral. My daughter suffered greatly from her illness, malnutrition and a
lack of milk due to the closure of the crossings.
A little over a week ago, CNN saw Zainab in hospital alive.
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ROBERTSON: How old is she?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's now five months. Five months old.
ROBERTSON: And how -- what is her weight?
ROBERTSON (voice-over): British doctor, Nick Maynard, was helping treat Zainab. He was on one of his many life-saving missions to Gaza and was
recording a video diary for CNN.
DR. NICK MAYNARD, PEDIATRICIAN: There've been four newborn babies in the last couple of weeks who died as a direct result of malnutrition. Their
mothers with two malnourished to produce milk. There are inadequate amounts of formula feed.
ROBERTSON (voice-over): Zainab's wizened skin and boned body was clinging to life and there was hope.
After CNN's report, Zainab was offered a medical evacuation abroad. Her father clutching her dead body, tells us her referral was ready and we were
waiting for the crossing to open. But she found peace and rose to the heavens. We did everything we could.
According to her doctors, she had no underlying medical conditions, cases like hers, increasingly common, he says.
DR. AHMAD AL-FARRA, ZAINAB'S PHYSICIAN: It came to the hospital as a body because of severe, severe starvation and unavailability of the special
formula for milk that it is suitable for her. This is one of the examples for not allowing and for closing borders against milk and against a special
formula of milk for children.
ROBERTSON (voice-over): More than 120 dead in Gaza from malnutrition, he says. Two-thirds of them are children because they're more vulnerable.
Israeli officials say they abide by international law, allow aid into Gaza and blame Hamas for the shortages.
Baby Zainab never knew any of that or about a ceasefire or negotiations over meters of land or numbers of hostages and prisoners to be exchanged.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Allahu akbar.
ROBERTSON (voice-over): She came into the world innocent and left it the same way; her parents' lives heavier, carrying the loss than what might
have been.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Allahu akbar.
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ROBERTSON: That's a story of one family. There have been 138 deaths by malnutrition until yesterday. Two-thirds of them are children. And the
reason that children die so easily, if you will, from malnutrition, doctors say it's just because their bodies don't store enough fat.
They don't have -- their bodies aren't well enough to develop, to deal with that lack of food. And that's why these statistics and that's why the
images have become so harrowing.
And that's frankly why, Becky, the international outcry is so powerful now. This didn't happen overnight. I mean, that's the narrative we hear from
U.N. officials. It won't be cured overnight. This happened, they say, and Palestinian organizations say through a systematic effort, they say that
the Israeli government was trying to cut back food aid.
Block -- blockade food from getting in Gaza and create a situation like this. Israel pushes back, blames all this malnutrition on Hamas and Hamas'
narrative. But the world's view and outcry is because of stories like baby Zainab right now. Becky.
ANDERSON: Good to have you, Nic. Thank you very much indeed for your reporting and your analysis.
Jasmine El-Gamal joins me here in the studio now. She is a former Pentagon Middle East adviser and host of the podcast "The View from Here."
It's good to have you.
JASMINE EL-GAMAL, FORMER PENTAGON OFFICIAL AND FOREIGN POLICY ANALYST: Good to be with you, Becky.
ANDERSON: We are talking while, in New York, there is a U.N. summit convened, cohosted by the Saudis and the French, on a two-state solution
for the Palestinians.
Last hour I spoke with the Slovenian foreign minister. Slovenia, one of the few European countries to have declared, unilaterally declared a
Palestinian state. I spoke to the minister of foreign and European affairs, who is at the New York conference. Have a listen to what she told me.
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TANJA FAJON, MINISTER OF FOREIGN AND EUROPEAN AFFAIRS, SLOVENIA: We all gathered here wish to end the war in Gaza immediately, unconditionally. We
wish to see a lasting peace in the Middle East.
I'm encouraged by the countries such as France or Saudi Arabia or others that are discussing about further steps.
One is, of course, the recognition and to see how the country can really build its own political architecture. So we are discussing in details
throughout the conference what should be next steps. But first, of course, it's immediate and unconditional ceasefire required.
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ANDERSON: The United States, notably not part of this conference in New York. The State Department calls it a publicity stunt.
What can the world hope to achieve without the U.S. and, indeed, the Israelis, taking part in an event like this?
EL-GAMAL: Well, a couple of things, I would say. One is the U.S. has always been against unilateral recognition of an international state.
They've always said that this needs to be part of a process and a negotiation.
But, of course, when you look at the statements coming out of the Trump administration and his ambassador to Israel, other high-level officials,
there actually is no recognition of this administration of such a thing as a Palestinian state.
And even with the Biden administration, before the Obama administration, there's never been a real commitment by the U.S. to a Palestinian state. So
that's one thing.
So I think you see countries, especially with the horrors that we've been seeing over the last 22 months, of just saying, you know what?
Enough. We can't wait for the U.S. The U.S. is never going to be on board with this. The Israelis certainly are never going to be on board with this.
You're asking an occupying force to be -- to generously and magnanimously give recognition to the very people that it's occupying. So that's not
going to happen.
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ANDERSON: Not this government under Benjamin Netanyahu.
EL-GAMAL: Well or other -- if you look if you look at the Israeli Left, I think you'll see that most of them actually have come out and said, we
don't want a Palestinian state. The Knesset voted against a Palestinian state. But that's besides the point.
I think there's a real frustration on the part of the international community and now, led by France and Saudi Arabia, to say, this doesn't
make any sense. Palestinians have the right to self-determination, just like everyone else, and should -- and deserve a state.
That said, it's not just about recognizing, Becky. It's not just about the words. In fact, many Palestinians and people who support Palestinian
statehood and beyond and self-determination are worried that this could be used as an opportunity to just check a box and say, well, we've recognized
you. Now everything's solved.
But actually, what are you recognizing?
What kind of a state, what kind of rights?
ANDERSON: And we discussed this with the Slovenian foreign minister in asking her with respect, you know, how much further does this go than just
diplomatic window dressing?
EL-GAMAL: Exactly.
ANDERSON: Didn't get a particularly substantive answer, although, you know, she was very clear about the position by the Slovenians and others,
it seems at this stage; 150 countries at the UNGA, for example, that there should be a Palestinian state.
But it's like, how do you get from the window dressing, you know, declaring this unilaterally and actually effecting some change, substantive change?
EL-GAMAL: Yes. And that's what the U.N. conference is about. That's what the discussions in UNGA are going to be about. According to Macron,
President Macron, France and journalists who have been following Macron for a while, that was one of his concerns.
He wanted to make sure that, when he came out and used this piece of leverage that France had -- because when you think of the big leverage --
the arms, the political cover, that's the U.S.
France had this, this piece of leverage called recognition and they wanted to use it in the right way. And they wanted to make sure that, when they
said recognition, that there was a series of tangible steps afterwards that was going to make that not window dressing.
Now whether or not that happens, that remains to be seen. But you have huge pressure from the Arab states. You have the Saudis kind of pulling people
in. You have a general consensus worldwide that this no longer makes sense. Occupation needs to end. There needs to be two states.
Now the devil is in the details. And it is really important to continue to put pressure on states, even states who have recognized, to make sure they
know this is not just it. The Palestinians are saying words are not enough. We need action. We need rights and we need our tangible self-determination
and a tangible state.
ANDERSON: None of this is going to happen until we get to what we describe as the day after. This is about what happens next.
Let's just back up for a moment, because what we are seeing on the ground in Gaza is horrifying to the nth degree. And Donald Trump has acknowledged
the starvation in Gaza, breaking from Benjamin Netanyahu. Just have a listen.
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TRUMP: We can save a lot of people. I mean, some of those kids are -- that's real starvation stuff. I see it. And you can't fake that. So we're
going to be even more involved.
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ANDERSON: "There is no starvation. There is no starvation policy," are the words of Benjamin Netanyahu in the past 24 hours.
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So what are Trump's what do you make of Trump's position there?
And what are his options at this point?
EL-GAMAL: I mean, what to say about it?
You know, starvation just does -- doesn't just happen overnight. People don't wake up one day and are starving. People need to be hungry first and
they need to be hungry for a sustained period of time before they even enter the phase of starvation.
U.N. organizations have been warning about starvation for over a year in Gaza. And the situation has reached us now where, you're reading reports,
I've read reports, that even that that the damage that is being done to people, who are going to survive this starvation, is lifelong and, in some
cases, it may be irreversible.
So, of course, it's great that Donald Trump is now saying that he believes there is starvation in Gaza. Great.
Now what are we going to do about it?
The amount of aid that is now begrudgingly being let in by the -- by this Israeli government is nowhere near the amount that it would take to
actually feed and sustain all the people in Gaza that need food.
And it's not just the right -- it's not just the amount; it also has to be the right kind of food. There's something called refeeding syndrome in
people who are starving, where you actually can't feed them regular food right away or else it actually can kill them.
And so this needs to be -- and this is why the U.N. is saying we need to be in charge of this. We need to be able to know that not only is the aid
coming in but the right kind of aid and that it is administered correctly and with care so that it doesn't cause further damage to people who have
been starving for months now.
ANDERSON: Donald Trump also talked yesterday at what was a wide ranging news conference about a change to the mechanism on the ground for
distributing aid, completely without detail.
He talked about new centers, no fences, just getting the people what they wanted. And the White House hasn't provided any more detail on that. We've
had the GHF, the very controversial mechanism on the ground, which is private organizations alongside the Israelis.
And then, of course, the U.N. mechanism, which the GHF was supposed to replace. We saw, ultimately -- we've been waiting on a ceasefire in order
that the -- Gaza be flooded with aid.
However that aid might be distributed, the hope was that we would get a ceasefire and that there would be an opportunity to really flood the place
with aid. The U.S. and Israel have withdrawn their teams from Doha.
What do you make -- and Israel has accused the international community, who have been criticizing its position in Gaza, as having hardened Hamas'
position. There's an awful lot going on there.
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ANDERSON: -- I guess to you is -- or my question to you is, what do you make of the breakdown in those talks and the threats from both sides at
this point about whether or not we can get a, at least, temporary truce anytime soon?
EL-GAMAL: The idea of a truce and the idea of a ceasefire -- and we've talked about this before -- has always largely hinged on two main issues.
One is -- well, three, I would say.
One is this idea of whether or not the ceasefire would be permanent. So Hamas wants a permanent end to the war. Netanyahu has vowed that he would
go in after the hostages are released until Hamas is gone. So the Israelis won't sign up to a permanent end of the war. So that's the first thing.
That's been the sticking point since day one. Every time a truce has backfired or disintegrated, it's been pretty much because of these three
points.
The second one is the level of withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza. So Hamas wants them to withdraw to the periphery and then eventually to leave
Gaza altogether. And the Israelis want to maintain a buffer zone and certain areas that they want to stay in.
And then the third and final one is the exchange of hostages and prisoners. So there are -- and specifically on the Palestinian side, because on the
Israeli side, the number of hostages is unfortunately limited at this point, including the number of hostages.
The number of -- the number of Palestinians being held by Israelis doesn't just comprise of criminals and masterminds of October 7th; they also
comprise of women and children, people under administrative detention, people who haven't been charged with any crime.
So that list of Palestinians is under some contention. So those are the three main points. These are not easy points to deliver a deal on.
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I will say, though, that I don't think that the U.S., whether under the Biden administration or the Trump administration, has been putting ample
pressure on the Israelis to accept the fact that, one day, sooner rather than later, hopefully they will have to end this war.
Hamas has already been degraded beyond any capability of attacking Israel again. The humanitarian toll, the death toll is way beyond what any
acceptable collateral damage is, by any standard.
And so what are you still doing there?
And I think, Becky, lastly, this is what I'll say, it's really, really important to monitor what Israeli leadership is saying to their own public
and in their own private debates in the Israeli press, because the messaging there is completely different from the messaging to the
international community.
The messaging there is, we're not going to end the war. This is victory until the end. We're not going to leave Gaza. We want to stay in Gaza. We
want to rebuild in Gaza.
And so you have to also weigh what they're saying internally to what they're saying -- the U.S. administration, both past administrations, have
constantly put the blame on Hamas.
Now Hamas is making some demands that are not tenable, like it wants some of the people who have been involved in October 7th to be released. I mean,
that's crazy.
But largely, this is on the Israelis. They need to end the war. They need to end it permanently. They need to acknowledge that they've defeated Hamas
militarily and they need to start allowing this life-saving humanitarian assistance in.
ANDERSON: So good to get your analysis and your insight. Thank you very much indeed.
EL-GAMAL: Thank you. Thanks for having me.
ANDERSON: Lovely to see you here.
It's -- normally we speak remotely from Abu Dhabi and Washington. So it's great to have you here. Thank you very much indeed.
Up next, trade talks between the U.S. and China continue for a second day in Sweden. We'll bring you the very latest on those negotiations. That up
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ANDERSON: Well, trade talks have resumed for a second day between China and the United States. These talks going on in Sweden. Delegations from
both countries met for five hours, apparently, yesterday in central Stockholm, with neither side making statements after the first day of
discussions.
Now August the 12th is the deadline for Beijing and Washington to reach a tariff deal or risk duties again soaring above 100 percent. Or at least
that is the U.S. position. For more on this, I'm joined by Marc Stewart in Beijing and Anna Cooban, who is here with me in London.
Good to have you both.
Marc, get us up to speed if you will, as you monitor these talks.
Is this all about tariffs or are there other demands beyond the money of it all?
MARC STEWART, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Right, Becky; the money of all of this is very hefty.
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These tariffs are very steep. But when you have the world's two largest economies sitting across from each other at the table, there are other
items, other matters of discussion.
This is to likely include the idea of blacklisting. We have seen China make it difficult for some American firms to do business here in China and vice
versa. And going into these talks was, just last week, we saw China suspend an investigation into DuPont, which, of course, is this giant American
chemical firm.
Perhaps China is going to ask the United States to do something in return, make some concessions after this move by Beijing.
Another thing we are looking for is, if the United States makes a big deal about the fact that China has been making fuel and energy purchases from
both Russia and from Iran, we know, in the past, the United States has accused China of fueling the Russian war machine. That could be a point of
conversation.
And, of course, TikTok. So, yes, Becky, tariffs front and center. But these other issues may be just as important.
ANDERSON: And Anna, as you monitor these talks and think about, you know, what's been reported to date at least, because there's not an awful lot
coming out in statements at this point.
But what's been reported to date and what the markets are saying about these talks, what do you believe the global ramifications could be from
these negotiations?
ANNA COOBAN, CNN BUSINESS AND ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think, Becky, it's really going to make U.S. companies, U.S. manufacturers think
twice about building facilities, having their products made in China if they can't really anticipate the level of tariffs that are going to be
slapped on those goods in the future.
But I think one really illustrative point is a report that came out on Monday from Canalys. This is a research firm, based in Singapore. They said
that, by their estimation, for the first time ever, smartphones made in India overtook those of China to become the biggest share of foreign made
smartphones in the U.S.
Now this is a big deal. It's certainly -- the numbers themselves are pretty striking. So the share of Indian made smartphones in the U.S. is 44 percent
in the second quarter this year, up from 13 percent at the same time last year.
ANDERSON: Those numbers are huge.
COOBAN: Yes. And then China was 61 percent of the share last year. That's down to 25 percent this year. So a huge change in a very short space of
time. And what Canalys is saying is that this is being driven by uncertainty around U.S.-China trade relations.
ANDERSON: So perhaps it doesn't matter what comes out of these talks. It's the very fact that they're ongoing that is, you know, making people think
about where their investments might be going forward and where their product might come from going forward.
And this has been one of the issues, hasn't it, that investors have been concerned about?
It's like, what are businesses doing about their investment decisions at this point, not knowing what will happen on these trade and tariff deals?
COOBAN: Well, exactly. I mean, it's the same for a company. It's the same for a household, same for a person.
Would you make a huge investment decision, would you buy a house, for example, if you didn't know what your ingoings and outgoings were going to
be in a matter of months?
And that's exactly where U.S. companies or all companies in the world are - - the situation they're facing at the moment.
ANDERSON: Marc, China has proposed a global action plan to govern AI. This is fascinating. Tell us more about this and why it is significant, coming
as it does from Beijing.
STEWART: Right. So China's style in all of this, in establishing itself as a global world leader, especially in this topic of AI, is to kind of be the
middle ground, making sure that AI is accessible to everyone, that it's not such an exclusive technology.
That's the way China is trying to distinguish itself, trying to put itself ahead of everyone as this clearinghouse, because, at the same time, just
last week, we heard from president Trump talking about how the U.S. will be the world leader in AI.
Also, comments from the CEO of Nvidia, Jensen Huang, talking about how the U.S. should really set the standard in AI. So we have this American first -
- America First approach. We have this global approach. We have this world leader approach.
At the end of the day, it's a way for China to flex its muscle, its technological muscle in this AI sphere. And despite all of this talk of
global harmony that we are hearing from Beijing on this, let's make it very clear.
China is adamant about being a force in AI. It was just last weekend, Becky, there was a big AI conference in Shanghai. And there we saw robots
doing boxing, playing mahjong. We just did a story a few weeks ago about robots playing sports, the rise of humanoid robots.
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So China, while it may be trying to push this message of cooperation, it's just its way of trying to show the world that it is going to be -- or it
plans to be -- a global force in this AI sphere. We're going to hear a lot about this coming up.
ANDERSON: Absolutely we are. Thank you, Marc.
Thank you, Anna.
Ahead on CONNECT THE WORLD, the challenges that Kyiv faces from Russia's summer offensive. CNN heads to a front line town in Eastern Ukraine, where
ancient knowhow is being made new again.
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ANDERSON (voice-over): You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky, Anderson. Here are your headlines this hour.
And today at the United Nations in New York, France and Saudi Arabia are co-chairing a conference focused on a two-state solution between Israel and
the Palestinians. Both countries say Palestinian statehood is essential for peace and security in the region.
Trade talks are continuing between the U.S. and China. Those are being hosted in Sweden. Delegations returned earlier today for a second day of
negotiations after meeting for five hours on Monday, August the 12th is the deadline for a deal before a temporary tariff truce between the two
countries expires.
The U.S. president, Donald Trump, heads back to Washington soon, after five days in Scotland. He spent much of his time at his golf properties, with
global crises in the spotlight. During the visit, he promised more aid for Gaza and tightened a deadline for Russia to agree to a ceasefire with
Ukraine.
Well, Russia is saying it has taken note of Mr. Trump's announcement that his initial 50-day ultimatum to Russia is now shortened to 10 or 12 days.
On the ground, Russian airstrikes continue to rain down on Ukraine.
And Kyiv is responding to the very modern threat of drone attacks with technology that has been around for centuries: the fishing net. CNN's Nick
Paton Walsh went to Eastern Ukraine to see how that is working.
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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY EDITOR (voice-over): The space left for Ukraine is shrinking from above, too, lined with fishing
nets to protect cars from Russian drone attacks.
This is the road to Konstantinovka, one of three vital towns in the east Russia is slowly encircling.
WALSH: Extraordinary low-tech bit of invention here to counter the high- tech problem of drones that have redefined warfare in Ukraine.
WALSH (voice-over): If you live here, you still need to get home.
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And as we see on this Russian drone footage, the holes let Moscow's smarter drone operators in. One even lies in wait filming the other drone as it
strikes.
The town lined with prey. A drone hit this van at dawn. The driver killed. Even if its explosives didn't go off, little has been spared here.
Artillery grinding for months.
WALSH: Well, something just flew in over our head there. But again when we move around this town, the clearer how more in the pincers it is of
Moscow's summer offensive. But still these bizarre signs of ordinary life trying to persist.
WALSH (voice-over): Tatiana lives on the edge of town and is now carrying her stuff to safety.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We don't have anywhere to go. I live on the outskirts and went to feed my dog and it's heavy there. Really heavy. Everyone has
left.
WALSH (voice-over): Oddly bustling though, is the central market where you'll notice locals turn away from our camera. OK, so people here don't
want their faces shown sometimes a sign that they're concerned the town may change hands or want simply not to be shown on television.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Glory to Ukraine.
WALSH: Calm for now?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is no calm today. They are shooting, of course.
WALSH: OK. She doesn't want to be filmed, either. The same story, really. And now we've just been told that a drone's been spotted which may have
been surveying the area. So we're told we should leave now.
WALSH (voice-over): With the drones for every new idea, there's something newer.
WALSH: Littering the battlefield now, this fiberoptic cable, meaning that drones can't be jammed and are instead linked back to their controller
through this tiny, tiny cord that can extend for tens of kilometers.
WALSH (voice-over): It is underground where they try to control the skies. Ukrainian commander Vasyl sees many Russians closing in and no new
Ukrainians coming to help. This airstrike, as Ukrainian drone team targeted.
VASYL, 93RD SEPARATE MECHANIZED BRIDAGE: We have a critical shortage of personnel. We hardly get any new recruits, the workload on the troops is
very heavy. Ukraine has a lot of people but no one wants to fight.
The war is over for them. The old personnel are left. They are tired and want to be replaced but no one is replacing them. Because there are no
people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cloud, cloud, fly around it and give me a close-up.
WALSH (voice-over): They show us one success. This Russian tank covered in protective netting which needed 70 Ukrainian drones to stop it.
Some Ukrainian positions held by just a pair of soldiers isolated. Vasyl said no vehicles able to reach them.
VASYL: We are currently supplying the infantry using drones. As dusk falls, we launch the Vampire of Kazhan. We load 10 kilograms of supplies --
food, ammunition, water, batteries, chargers for radio stations.
WALSH (voice-over): On the screens, a lone Russian is hit by a drone's grenade but survives and shoots at the next one, throwing his helmet as it
flies in. He again survives but another comes and misses him by inches.
He takes off his armor and waves a shovel. Isolated, relentless agonies for both sides.
VASYL: We are tired. Everyone is tired of this war. And I believe that other countries are also tired of helping us. This war must end. That would
be the best option.
WALSH (voice-over): Moscow wants that, too. Just its ending is yet uglier still -- Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Kostyantynivka, Ukraine.
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ANDERSON: Well, ending the war in Ukraine does appear to be a growing aim for the U.S. president, who indicated, while in Scotland, that he is
tightening the screws on Vladimir Putin. Gaza, too, is a conflict, he says, he is working to solve. But it remains to be seen if all or any of this
talk will bear fruit.
Our senior politics reporter, Stephen Collinson, has been writing about just that in his latest piece entitled, "Gaza and Ukraine will show whether
Trump is a true leader or just a bully."
And he joins me now from Washington. And our viewers can find that piece on our digital platforms, of course.
Trump, Stephen, is promising to end wars on many fronts. Have a listen to what he said just a few hours ago before he departed Scotland.
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TRUMP: We'll play it very quickly and then I go back to D.C. And we put out fires all over the world. We did one yesterday, as you know. We stopped
the war. But we've stopped about five wars. So that's much more important than playing golf. As much as I like it, it's much more important.
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ANDERSON: And he is, as I'm told, still in Scotland, actually, and departs in the next hour. Yet the -- ever listen to what he says and the reality is
very different. Walk us through what we can expect from the U.S. president, to your mind.
STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes, he's talking there about intervening in the conflict between Thailand and Cambodia. And there
have been occasions when the president has inserted himself in these conflicts and has appeared to make a little bit of a difference.
The clash between India and Pakistan over Kashmir earlier this year was a case in point, although the Indians disputed that Trump really did
anything.
The problem with these two massive wars in Gaza and Ukraine is that there's been a big gap, I think, between aspiration and action. The administration
doesn't seem to know how to use tools and influence to coerce various parties to the table or is simply unwilling to do so.
So while the president says that he's going to now get involved in a big aid mission to Gaza, I think that's reasonable. He's facing increasing
international and domestic pressure to do so.
Is he then going to apply his administration to the task of breaking this underlying cause, which is the Israelis' determination to continue
bombarding Gaza, to try and root out Hamas and Hamas' own intransigence and willingness to have its people in Gaza?
The Palestinian civilians pay a terrible price for its continued survival.
Is there any reason to think that the administration can unlock that underlying cause?
Experience so far in the last six months doesn't really lead us to believe that it can.
ANDERSON: Yes. European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen and the British prime minister himself, Keir Starmer, both went up to see Trump at
his golf resort in Turnberry in Scotland. He was mixing personal business with diplomatic efforts. They had to make the trip to see him.
What did you make of this strategy?
COLLINSON: Well, I think its shows us the influence and the power of Trump, at least when it comes to allied leaders, who generally genuflect
before him because they're worried what he'll do if they don't.
You know, the E.U. trade deal has caused quite a backlash in Europe and the optics of Ursula von der Leyen going there and offering Trump this deal
have caused a -- proven very politically dangerous for her.
You know, we saw Keir Starmer show up as a guest in his own United Kingdom yesterday. And Trump appeared to be the one that was holding all the power.
So I think that is a real illustration of the position that Trump is in right now.
But is he willing, therefore, to take action and to increase leverage over leaders who are less accommodating to what he wants to do, people like
president Vladimir Putin or president Xi?
If you look at Trump's remarks on Ukraine, he says, OK, now I'm going to put more pressure on the Russians. I'm fed up with Putin ignoring me.
Is he therefore going to go ahead with secondary sanctions, which would sanction countries like India and China for continuing to buy Russian oil
and bankrolling the war?
That would impose a significant impact on the U.S. economy, could even spike oil prices, push the U.S. economy into recession.
Is Trump prepared to pay the price politically for using that leverage?
I think, again, as with the Gaza situation, I think we remain to be convinced.
ANDERSON: Stephen Collinson's in the house out of Washington for you today, where the time is 10:43 in the afternoon -- or in the morning. It is
3:43 here in London.
Thanks, Stephen.
Still to come, horrifying moments inside a New York City skyscraper, when a gunman opens fire. What police are saying about Monday's shooting. CNN's
chief law enforcement reporter will bring us back up to speed.
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ANDERSON: Well, the deadliest shooting in New York City in 25 years is now raising all kinds of alarms. Police say the shooter walked into a Park
Avenue skyscraper on Monday and killed four people before turning the gun on himself.
A source tells CNN that the shooter had grievances with the National Football League. The NFL has offices in the building where the gunman
opened fire. CNN's source says documents found on the shooter indicate that he was upset with the NFL's handling of CTE, which is a brain disease
linked to repeated head trauma.
And police say the motive for the shooting remains under investigation. Well, let's bring in CNN's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst,
John Miller.
John, what more are we learning about any motive and, indeed, who this suspect is or was?
JOHN MILLER, CNN CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: Well, what we've learned of the suspect is he was a school athlete, a football
player in his days in high school, junior varsity. Very, very much across his social media are the stories of his victories on the field.
What we don't see is a story of whether he suffered a head injury or a concussion. What we do know is that, later in life -- he has a documented
mental history in Las Vegas -- found in the car where antidepressants and medications. So he seemed to be a person with some kind of struggle who had
boiled that down to making the NFL a target.
He had watched a documentary that had aired on public television about CTE and the effects of football players. And in the notes found on his body, he
talks about CTE, alleges that the NFL ignored it too long or tried to cover it up. Talks about the suicide of a football player, Terry Long, who took
his own life after suffering from CTE.
So somehow this had become an overriding obsession to him that caused him to drive from Las Vegas, where he worked in security at two casinos, where
he was a licensed private investigator, had a license to carry concealed weapons, drove to Las Vegas, straight to New York City, across the country.
Straight to the NFL's headquarters at 345 Park Avenue and opened fire in the lobby. And then it appears, intended to go into the NFL's office and
continue shooting.
But the elevator that he boarded took him to a predetermined floor from the passenger, who had run out, which brought him to the Rudin Management
offices, the management company that controls a lot of New York real estate.
Including that building where it is headquartered as well and opened fire there before taking his own life.
ANDERSON: It's frightening stuff, isn't it?
It's good to have you, John. Thank you very much indeed.
We are going to take a very short break. Back after this.
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ANDERSON: Well, in today's Parting Shots, tens of thousands of football fans have been partying in London to celebrate what was a huge win for a
team that has made the country proud.
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ANDERSON (voice-over): Welcome home, England's Lionesses. They got back Monday after successfully defending their European crown by beating Spain
on penalties.
No time to unpack before the celebrations began. Fans camped out from the early hours today ahead of what was this victory parade.
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ANDERSON: And "WORLD SPORT's" Amanda Davies is here.
It is -- it has absolutely been a very busy 48 hours for these Lionesses.
Quite the whirlwind victory, right?
AMANDA DAVIES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I was working very much as that parade was happening earlier. Watching it back, sitting here now, I can't help but
get really quite emotional. It is incredible. You and I are of the generation that we grew up loving football, watching football.
But we were never going to be able to pursue a career as a professional football player. And seeing what this group of women have done and, of
course, the generations who have built us up to this, there was criticism three years ago when the Lionesses won their first major piece of
silverware, that they only got a stage party at Trafalgar Square.
They didn't get the parade that has been afforded to the Rugby World Cup winning side, for example; the ashes (ph) cricket team. This is an
unprecedented moment for women's sport.
And the fans turned out in their thousands. And, rightly, these girls are getting their flowers. And, of course, led by Sarina Wiegman, a coach who
herself has changed the game, five straight major finals, the woman who has led, firstly the Netherlands and then England, to these two straight
European titles.
And it's about using this moment, isn't it?
And taking it to the next level.
ANDERSON: Yes.
And what does that mean ultimately?
DAVIES: Money, investment.
ANDERSON: That's my point, opportunity.
DAVIES: And the government already -- I mean they these poor players, bless them. I mean, they're having the time of their lives. But they went
straight from the game, from the coach in Switzerland, to a reception at Downing Street yesterday.
Prime minister Keir Starmer wasn't there but Angela Rayner was. And there's already been talk of the creation of a new task force, pumping more money
in, to give more and more girls at school in the first instance and then girls at clubs the opportunity.
And it's the visibility. This is happening in England at the same time as Nigeria's women won an unprecedented 10th women's African Cup of Nations
crown in Nigeria. They are celebrating at home as well.
We've got the Copa America Femenina semifinal taking place later today, Brazil against Uruguay. We've got a women's World Cup, Rugby World Cup,
taking place, kicking off in just a couple of weeks' time here in the U.K.
It's these moments being televised -- and the sport is incredible. It's the coaching that -- the quality of what they're producing is amazing.
ANDERSON: Absolutely. I mean, it's really good football to watch, really good football to watch. And I was just reflecting on what you said at the
beginning of this.
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And thinking about how I felt watching this earlier on today in London.
Both of us, unfortunately, were working, so we weren't out there. And you've got a little girl; I've got two little girls. And I was thinking,
you know, when I was 7 or 8, I had to pretend to be a boy to join what was a summer camp for football, because it just, you know, it just didn't
happen for us.
Now I think in the States, there's been more support for young girls playing soccer there. And I remember looking at that, you know, with a lot
of jealousy to a certain extent when I was younger.
But I think, to your point, you know, it's what happens next. We have to remember how far we've come. Let's be quite clear about that and
acknowledge how far we've come. Athletes like these are just, you know, phenomenal. But it's what happens next.
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DAVIES: Even with the Spanish women's team, the Spanish women's team, who won the World Cup in Australia and New Zealand, they have had to fight
tooth and nail, as has been well reported, to get a proper physio, to get the proper nutritionists.
And this European championship, where they reached the final for the first time, that has been the case.
ANDERSON: I'm being told we've got to go. We could do this for hours.
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ANDERSON: We got to go.
That's it for CONNECT THE WORLD. Stay with CNN. "ONE WORLD" is up next.
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