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Rubio: We'll Encourage Qatar to Play a "Constructive Role" to Disarm Hamas and Bring Hostages Home; Cox Signal Dark Internet Culture Contributed to Suspect's Radicalization; Romania Condemns Moscow after Russian Drone Breaches Airspace; Concerns Grow Over Economic Slowdown; Manchester City Dominate Rivals Manchester United 3-0. Aired 9-9:45a ET

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ELENI GIOKOS, CNN HOST, CONNECT THE WORLD: Pointing fingers, can America heal when the president wants to pin Charlie Kirk's death on the left. It's

09:00 a.m. in Washington. It is 05:00 p.m. here in Abu Dhabi. I'm Eleni Giokos. This is "Connect the World".

Also coming up, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is in Israel calling for the release of hostages and peace in the Holy Land. Is Prime Minister

Netanyahu listening? Romania is in the second -- is the second NATO country in less than two weeks to report a Russian drone in its airspace.

We'll have analysis. Plus, welcome endorsements for Zohran Mamdani, the New York democratic mayoral nominee, and gets a thumbs up from this state

governor. All right. I want to check in on how the markets in New York are faring around 30 minutes from the start of trade.

And as you can see, positive all around the DOW, S&P and NASDAQ firmly in the green. What's pushing that higher is what we heard from U.S. President

saying that there are positive negotiations and talks happening with China with regards to trade talks. That all having a big impact.

And of course, the Federal Reserve meeting later this week. We'll be covering those numbers in around 30 minutes from now. Meantime, the U.S.

Secretary of State is in Israel today on the cusp of an Israeli ground operation into Gaza City. Marco Rubio's meeting with Israeli Prime Minister

Benjamin Netanyahu, coming on the same day, Arab leaders are holding an emergency summit in Qatar to address Israel's attack targeting Hamas

leaders in Doha.

Rubio pinning the blame for the prolonged war and all the bloodshed that followed on Hamas, while using strong words to criticize the militant

group.

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MARCO RUBIO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: We want all of the hostages out, all of every single one of us, both living and deceased, all of There should

never have been hostages. This should never happen. OK. This happened because on October 7th, these animals, these barbaric animals, conducted

this operation and against innocent people that had nothing to do with any of this.

And that's why this all started. We've forgotten that. People have forgotten that that's where this all began.

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GIOKOS: Jeremy Diamond is connecting us from Jerusalem. Jeremy, great to have you with us. Marco Rubio there and Prime Minister Netanyahu in public,

showing a united front, even though the United States was blindsided by that strike in Qatar, which is a key U.S. ally.

What are you hearing about the meetings and particularly what's going down behind closed doors?

JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, Eleni, there's certainly no question that the U.S. Secretary of State is in Israel today and will be

in the region, heading to Doha tomorrow, because of the repercussions that are very much still reverberating from that Israeli strike in the Qatari

capital of Doha last week, which infuriated one U.S. ally Qatar in that case.

And is requiring the Secretary of State to play some shuttle diplomacy here between these two countries. But publicly, the U.S. Secretary of State

really avoided condemning that Israeli strike in Qatar, largely bolstering the Israeli Prime Minister's general position about the importance of

defeating Hamas and the fact that the U.S. aligns with the goal of carrying out strikes against Hamas leaders.

The Israeli Prime Minister, for his part, was quite unapologetic about that Israeli strike in Doha last week, comparing Qatar hosting Hamas' leaders to

Afghanistan hosting and harboring Al Qaeda members in the wake of 9/11. The big difference, of course, between those two cases is that both the United

States and Israel have tacitly approved a Hamas presence in Doha in order to conduct much of that back-channel diplomacy that we have seen lead to

two ceasefires so far in the course of this war.

And which was also the reason why Qatar was in the process of mediating yet more discussions sponsored by the United States to try and reach a new

ceasefire and hostage release deal in Gaza at the moment when Israel carried out this strike.

And so, their discussions will, of course, focus on the diplomatic fallout from those strikes, but beyond that, also what comes next inside of the

Gaza Strip, as we've been learning that Israeli forces are preparing in the coming days to move forward with their ground operation into Gaza City.

The Secretary of State on that point saying that the United States supports Israel's goal of eliminating Hamas, but he made clear that how that aim is

achieved might need to be done through military means, but that it would be something that he would be discussing privately with the Israeli Prime

Minister.

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And so that is what we are waiting to see what kind of influence the U.S. brings to bear on that military operation, and of course, on the resumption

of any future negotiations to try and reach a ceasefire in Gaza once again.

GIOKOS: Yeah, and in the meantime, we're actually showing some of the footage of the hundreds and thousands of Palestinians that are being

displaced as a result of the IDF preparing for the ground offensive. And of course, a very big warning in terms of what was going to happen in Gaza

City for the people that do remain there.

Give us a sense of the latest on that front, and whether the IDF has been sharing any information on what this offensive is actually going to look

like.

DIAMOND: Well, a lot of these images that we are showing of the tens of thousands of people who fled just this weekend alone are very much the

result of the intensification of Israel's bombardment of Gaza City that we witnessed over the course of the weekend.

At least 140 people were killed, according to local hospitals in Gaza City alone by these Israeli strikes. And I'm also told by the Israeli military

that about 100,000 people are estimated, according to them, to have left Gaza City fleeing south over the course of this weekend alone.

The Israeli military's estimates are that about 320,000 people have fled Gaza City in recent weeks since Israel began issuing evacuation orders for

that city and intensifying its bombardment of those areas. But all around in Gaza City, there were about 1 million people who were at risk of being

displaced when the Israeli military began these strikes and it started issuing some of these evacuation orders.

And so that leaves hundreds of thousands of people who are continuing to face these intensified strikes, facing now the prospect of Israeli ground

forces pushing into the central parts of Gaza City. And a lot of uncertainty for people who have chosen to flee and are not sure where

they're going to go.

And for those still in Gaza City, many of whom simply don't have the means to be able to get out of that city, as this military operation is indeed

ramping up, so a very volatile and unstable situation that is likely going to worsen the humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip as well, Eleni.

GIOKOS: All right. Jeremy Diamond, thank you so much for that update. In the U.S. investigators spent the weekend working to learn more about the

assassination of Charlie Kirk and the 22-year-old Utah man alleged to have carried it out. Utah Governor Spencer Cox says Tyler Robinson is not

cooperating with authorities on the conservative activists killing last week.

However, investigators have pointed to gaming and dark internet culture as potential factors that may have radicalized Robinson based on information

from family, friends and acquaintances. Cox complained to NBC's "Meet the Press" about social media's role in discord and political violence.

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GOV. SPENCER COX (R-UT): These companies, trillion-dollar market caps, the most powerful companies in the history of the world have figured out how to

hack our brains get us addicted to outrage, which is the same type of dopamine, the same chemical that you get from taking fentanyl, get us

addicted to outrage and get us to hate each other.

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GIOKOS: Right, CNN's Danny Freeman is following the story for us from St. George, Utah. You know what we've been hearing from the Utah governor in

particular, that Robinson is not cooperating with authorities. So how is the investigation going this hour?

DANNY FREEMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Listen, Eleni, I think you said it just right that this weekend has been very, very active in this investigation.

And actually, just this morning, we learned more information about the suspect, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson from the FBI Director, Kash Patel, who

gave an interview to another network.

And I want to run through some of the new things that we're learning just in the past hour or two. There's new information when it comes to DNA and

also a potential note left behind by the main suspect, Robinson here. First, the DNA, FBI officials discovered on the roof at that university a

screwdriver which they were able to extract DNA from.

They also found in the wooded area just outside of the university a hunting rifle wrapped in a towel, and the FBI was also able to extract DNA from

that towel that the rifle was wrapped in. And according to the FBI Director, Kash Patel, both have been positively processed for the suspect

in custody, meaning connected by DNA, to the suspect, Tyler Robinson here.

Though, I should note the ATF they're the ones who are handling the firearm itself. So, we still don't have an update on if the firearm has been

directly connected to Robinson just yet. And then, Eleni, one of the big questions that we've had since late last week is this potential existence

of a note left behind by Robinson.

The Governor of Utah, had told CNN yesterday, or at least appeared to confirm, the existence of a note. Well, we learned more from the FBI

Director today who said that a written note we believed did exist at one point.

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But they believe now that, that note may have been destroyed, and they have forensic evidence that might suggest that note indeed was destroyed. But

the FBI Director said they do know the content roughly of that note, which included statements such as, I have the opportunity to take out Charlie

Kirk, and I am going to take it.

Now, Eleni, this is just one, I should say, two of many updates that we've gotten over the past 24 hours, including the news that Robinson had a

roommate who was a, quote, romantic partner who was also a male transitioning to a female. Also, we've been learning more about just his

general ideology.

He was part of a conservative family here in Southwest Utah, but the Governor of Utah said he'd been drifting to the left in recent years. I

want you to take a listen to how the Governor of Utah characterized this shift in his ideology.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You told "The Wall Street Journal" that it is, quote, very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was

deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. Can you elaborate on that and be more specific?

COX: Sure. So that information comes from the people around him, from his family members and friends. That's how we got that information. Again,

there's so much more that we're learning, and so much more that we will learn.

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FREEMAN: And now, Eleni, the big date that we all have circled on our calendar is, of course, tomorrow, where we're hoping to learn more

information. That's because that's when formal charges are expected to be announced by prosecutors here in Utah. And that's also when we're expecting

to see Robinson himself make his first court appearance.

So tomorrow afternoon, that's when we're really hoping to get more information about what may have led this young man to allegedly go to that

rooftop and open fire at Charlie Kirk, Eleni.

GIOKOS: Danny Freeman, thank you so much. Well Kirk's death has once again highlighted the deep division in the United States and is raising fears of

more political violence. CNN's Senior Political Reporter Stephen Collinson writes, the reactions of some social media users to Kirk's death, whether

by celebrating or by calling for vengeance showed how many people have been radicalized by the dark political times and have found fellow travelers

online.

And Stephen Collinson joins us now live from Washington. Stephen, reality is and you know your piece, again, brilliant analysis here, you say that

this poses a huge challenge to politicians that are appealing for calm right now. The reality is, you have a U.S. President seem to stoke the fire

by pointing the blame at the left.

Despite no evidence that this man was affiliated with the left at this point, that could change, of course. But how dangerous is this moment in

your mind?

STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: I think the danger is that this is taking place against a political backdrop that's very volatile, in

which Americans who are active in politics are worried already estranged from themselves. So, it's a combination of things coming together, I think,

which could be a rather perilous political moment.

The problem in American politics, and it's not just here, it's all over the world, really, now, in this new age of social media, is that the incentives

for people are to accentuate divisions, rather than to dwell on what people have in common. So, you know, the people who are expressing hate for

Charlie Kirk or those on the right who are saying this should be the start of a civil war, are perhaps not really representative of millions of

ordinary Americans that might have political views that sharply differ.

But they manage to go on with each other and interact even in these difficult times without resorting to hate and more division. But the

problem is, is that these social media accounts manage to channel the anger. They make people understand that there are other people like them

who think the same way.

This is something that the president himself has used very effectively during his political campaigns. He's never really tried to be the president

for every American, he's activating his political base constantly and looking for incidents that play into that. So, most politicians since the

Kirk killing have come out and said, well, we need to come together.

But in the current circumstances, this looks a lot like a bunch of platitudes, and there's little reason, I think, to think that this is going

to suddenly make people think, well, you know what? We need to stop talking less violently online, because it can have dangerous consequences.

GIOKOS: Yeah. I mean, we've seen some of the consequences, and of course, they've been -- there's been a lot of talk and frankly, reports of people

being disciplined within a corporate environment, perhaps even losing their jobs if they mark celebrate or condone his death.

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So, it's an interesting time. But I also want to point to something that you wrote in your piece, and you say Trump's second term has shown that

he's always looking to use events as a justification to seize more powers. Some of his aides and cabinet members sound like they believe a turning

point has been reached. Do you believe a turning point has been reached?

COLLINSON: Well, I think certainly rhetorically, the president has used this to suggest that the only political violence is perpetrated against

conservatives, despite the fact that there have been a number of recent incidents, including the killing of a Minnesota state lawmaker and her

husband this year that were directed at Democrats.

We haven't yet seen any hard policy responses. So, I think it's always important with Trump to watch what he does, necessarily and not always what

he says. I think the potential there is that the president could use this to intensify, for example, his crackdown on democratic cities over crime.

He's created this wider narrative the left is to blame for everything that goes wrong in America, including these violent attacks. Even as you say,

there's no evidence that any political figure or party has anything to do with Tyler Robinson, the alleged killer of Charlie Kirk.

So, he will use that to create this narrative that tough measures, strong man measures are needed to get the country into line, as far as how he

might respond to the specifics of this case. I think it's a lot more difficult. There's already a great deal of hostility in conservative

circles and in conservative media towards the trans ideology.

We could potentially see some steps on that front, but that's already a very legally and constitutionally murky area. I think the danger here is

you have a president, as I say, who wants to impose power. And there's a feeling among conservatives that this attack on Charlie Kirk is different,

not just because it's an attack on a political figure, but it's an attack on the ideology of MAGA and Trump's political movement.

And they see this as distinct and that might in their minds and inside MAGA circles provide some justification for some more extreme political tactics.

GIOKOS: Stephen Collinson, great to have you with us. Thank you so much. Now, the Trump Administration says a framework for a deal has been reached

with China to keep TikTok up and running in the United States.

Just a short time ago, President Trump posted on social media that a deal was reached on a certain company that young people in our country very,

very much wanted to save. They will be very happy. And the U.S. Secretary had this to say about the deal. Take a listen.

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SCOTT BESSENT, U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY: We have a framework for a TikTok deal. The two leaders, President Trump and Party Chair Xi, will speak on

Friday to complete the deal, but we do have a framework for a deal with TikTok.

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GIOKOS: All right. And this comes after bipartisan legislation passed by Congress during the Biden Administration that would ban TikTok in the

United States if its parent company didn't sell at least part of its business to an American backed owner. We will have more on this breaking

story throughout the show.

Now, a key endorsement to start a new week, a new, New York mayoral race. Governor Kathy Hochul on Sunday, officially endorsed Democrat Zohran

Mamdani. Her backing of the 33-year-old Democratic Socialist puts new pressure on other high-profile Democrats to do the same, including Chuck

Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.

Hochul said despite their differences on some issues, she said, Mamdani is focused on keeping the city safe as well as affordable. Mamdani thanked

Hochul for working to unify the party. CNN's Gloria Pazmino is following the race for us. Good to see you, Gloria.

So as the most powerful Democrats in the state, how impactful might her endorsement be, and could it affect her own reelection bid next year?

GLORIA PAZMINO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, this is definitely significant, both for Zohran Mamdani and for Governor Kathy Hochul. She is,

after all, the most powerful top Democrat here in New York State. And she had been under some pressure in the past two months or so following Zohran

Mamdani's win in the June Democratic primary for failing to endorse him immediately after that win.

Now, one thing we can say about what this means is that it's certainly at least for now highlighting those others who have not yet endorsed Mamdani,

mainly representative Hakeem Jeffries, as well as Senator Chuck Schumer, both of them from New York and still not out there to issue their support

for Mamdani.

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Now we're also getting some reaction from President Trump to the endorsement. President Trump taking to social media just a short while ago

to respond to this endorsement, calling it a shocking development. He said, Governor Kathy Hochul of New York has endorsed the Liddle Communist Zohran

Mamdani, running for Mayor of New York.

This is a rather shocking development and a very bad one for New York City. How can such a thing happen? Washington will be watching the situation very

closely. No reason to be sending good money after bad. So that last line there, of course, is a reference to the fact that President Trump has said

previously that he would consider holding back federal funds from the City of New York if Mamdani were elected.

He has referred to him as he did there in the post as a communist. Now what's important to highlight here is that despite the endorsement from

Kathy Hochul, she made it very clear in her op-ed piece that was published in the "New York Times" last night that although she is supporting him.

She doesn't necessarily agree with him on every issue, and she laid out a set of priorities that she said she spoke to Mamdani about, specifically

her concern that Mamdani should keep up resources for the New York Police Department that he should focus on continuing to bring business to New

York, affordability, she said, continues to be a top concern.

She also talked about the need to combat antisemitism, and very tellingly, she did not mention Mamdani's proposal to tax the city's wealthiest

residents. That, of course, would have to be a measure that is an approved in the state legislature and signed into law by the governor, who has

previously said that she is concerned that racist -- raising taxes here in New York City would drive people out.

So, it's going to be interesting to see how the two work together if Zohran Mamdani is elected mayor in November. But I also think right now, the

biggest takeaway is that this latest endorsement certainly increases the pressure on other Democrats who have yet to endorse him.

GIOKOS: Gloria Pazmino, thank you so much. You're watching "Connect the World". There's more news right after this. Stay with CNN.

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GIOKOS: Exercises in the skies over Belarus today as Minsk and Moscow continue their joint maneuvers as part of their wide-ranging alliance.

Russia's Ministry of Defense calls it a strategic exercise in repelling aggression against the union state. Meantime, Romania has condemned

Moscow's quote, irresponsible actions after alleging that a Russian drone breached its airspace during an attack on neighboring Ukraine, Saturday.

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Our Chief International Security Correspondent, Nick Paton Walsh, following the developments for us. Nick, good to see you. How are NATO allies set to

respond after allegations of yet another airspace breach. And of course, what we saw earlier this week with Poland's airspace being breached, that

causing a flurry of panic within the NATO alliance, and you're seeing this happening again.

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, look, I mean, it's important to stress that this penetration of Romanian

airspace appears to have been one drone, but obviously the proximity to the last time leaving many deeply concerned. I should remind you too, that on

Friday, we heard NATO launch something called Eastern century, which has essentially heightened patrols.

More NATO assets put on standby or in the skies along the eastern border to patrol and essentially intercept any further Russian incursions. But

clearly the rationale behind this incursion, if indeed it was intentional, as it seems, Poland insists. But some NATO officials seem not entirely

certain about the Kremlin's rationale here.

Its thinking doesn't really seem to have changed if, again, a similar mistake is being made over Romanian skies. But moving forwards, we're going

to see, I think, probably, more calls for more assets being put in play here. Senior Polish officials have been saying in interviews with German

media that maybe NATO needs to put in place some kind of no-fly zone over parts of Ukraine and elsewhere, but also too.

Tension now heightens towards what can be done in terms of sanctions to change Russian thinking. President Trump, having long telegraphed the

possibility that in days. Previously, the past week, he might move ahead another sanctions package, but over the weekend, a sharp change in his

public thinking, pressuring European allies to stop buying Russian resources, the Russian oil and gas, which -- forms, still quite a small

part of Europe's diet.

But still, something certainly there, and a degree, you might argue, of moral aptitude of President Trump saying to Europe, NATO members, if you

want me to introduce significant tariffs and sanctions against Russia for doing something, then please do the same yourself.

Europe, though hours, if not days, away from announcing its 19th sanctions package against Russia, I'm told by a European official, that's likely to

include further sanctions or bans of tourist visas for Russians to go on holiday inside of Europe. That could potentially, I think, damage quite a

significant part of the thinking of Russia's elite as to how this war may be going in their favor.

But a lot moving in terms of NATO's increased feeling of its being dragged into, certainly the defense of its borders, particularly with the

significant exercises happening inside of Belarus and Russia now, that is Zapad-2025, and how that may be showcasing Russia's bid to show it has

military might still remaining.

A brief Starlink outage across the front lines today, one that, again, left many NATOS, sorry, Ukrainian service members deeply anxious for the couple

of hours in which that internet service went out. Remember, it's used to communicate between their units, particularly assist with their substantial

drone programs that form the bulwark, really, of their defense against Russian aggression.

Russian units, though, also too, using Starlink as well. That particular blackout, it seems short lived, maybe a couple of hours, but it's the

second time, a previous one in July, causing equal anxiety. Although many Ukrainian servicemen I spoke to since that first outage said to me, look,

it's something we're aware of now, and they have work arounds.

But still another reminder of the frailty of Ukraine across the front lines there, as indeed incursions appear to continue into NATO airspace, and talk

of the need for further sanctions -- for now continues to be talk, particularly from the U.S. side.

GIOKOS: All right. Nick Paton Walsh, thank you so much for that update. NASA scientists think they may have found the oldest sign of life on Mars

to date. The perseverance rover found these rocks last year. They feature leopard-like patterns that NASA believes could have been made billions of

years ago.

And they say the marks may be signs of chemical reactions that supported life of microbes. But they're also looking into other possibilities. CNN

Aerospace Analyst Miles O'Brien spoke with CNN Jessica Dean about these potentially startling developments on the Red Planet.

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MILES O'BRIEN, CNN AEROSPACE ANALYST: If, in fact, upon further analysis, we can determine the, you know, sort of the history of that life. The big

question is, is it a second genesis of life, or is the life on earth from the same source? In other words, could the life have been transmitted from

some sort of meteorite from our planet to Mars, or vice versa, which Jessica means we might all be Martians.

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GIOKOS: Right, the opening bell ringing the trading week on Wall Street. And there you have it.

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GIOKOS: I'm Eleni Giokos live in Abu Dhabi, and you're watching "Connect the World". Markets are sending mixed signals about the health of America's

economy, while the stock market hovers near record highs. The bond market is signaling concerns and fresh data we've been seeing showing the United

States labor market is losing steam.

Jobless claims just recorded one of the biggest weekly jumps in more than a year, and unemployment now is at its highest since 2021. All eyes are on

the Federal Reserve this week, which is expected to cut interest rates in a bid to spur hiring. All right, joining me now is Martha Gimbel.

She's the Executive Director of the Budget Lab at Yale and a Former Senior Adviser at the White House Council of Economic Advisers, really good to see

you. I'm looking at the markets right now. They're in positive territory. And people are kind of perplexed. They saying we're seeing inflation

rising.

We've got the highest unemployment since 2021. There's a clear disconnect between what markets are doing and what economic data is telling us. Is it

because people are pricing in and markets are pricing in potential rate cuts to try and shore up the economy?

MARTHA GIMBEL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BUDGET LAB AT YALE: You know, some of this is about the fact that people are excited about rate cuts. Some of

this is about the fact that people are excited about AI.

GIOKOS: Yeah.

GIMBEL: And some of this is just that markets are going to do. Markets are going to do, so there are a lot of people who lost a lot of money shorting

the housing market in 2005. They were right. They were just a couple of years too early. So sometimes the markets just slow to catch on.

GIOKOS: All right. So. we also know that President Trump has put pressure on the fed over the issue of rate cuts. And Jerome Powell has stood his

ground. Is this going to be purely data driven? What's the prognosis on what's going to be driving interest rate cuts going forward?

Because you've got inflation not sitting at that sweet spot of 2 percent which is what the fed wants. And then you've got an issue with

unemployment, potentially, if they don't cut, then you've got a problem on stagnation, but then you could have hyperinflation down the line. I mean,

this is a real balancing act.

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GIMBEL: I mean, I personally mean incredibly grateful that I am not in charge of interest rate decisions at the fed right now. This is a really

tricky situation. And frankly, they don't really have any good options. They're making a bet that the recent re acceleration in inflation is being

driven by tariffs, and that they can look through it.

That's a big bet. And we'll have to see how that turns out for them. But at the same time, the labor market is weakening, so they have to make a

decision one way or another.

GIOKOS: Yeah. I mean, as you say, it's tough to sift through the data, and then you have to, of course, be proactive, as opposed to reactive, and

you're hoping you're acting properly. So that you don't cause an issue down the line. I'm just wondering what your outlook is for the U.S. economy

given trade wars still very much on the go.

There's still a bit of a confrontation with China and other emerging markets, in particular, some of the biggest allies of the United States.

Also, I mean, President Trump and the administration is really positioning this as net positive for the U.S., perhaps over the long term.

But how -- what kind of impact are we going to see and repercussions are we going to see on the U.S. economy?

GIMBEL: You know, economists are pretty agreed on what this is going to look like, which is that this particular policy mix is designed one to slow

down economic growth. That's not just about the tariffs, right? It's also about immigration and it's about the policy uncertainty and also to speed

up inflation, which also reflects, frankly, the pressure that's being put on the Federal Reserve.

And so, you know, who knows how far we'll get into stagflation, but it is certainly pushing us in a stagflationary direction.

GIOKOS: Martha Gimbel, great to have you with us. Thank you so much. Right, Puerto Rican Rapper Bad Bunny's residency has come to an end, creating an

economic boom in his native Puerto Rico. Bad Bunny chose to skip the continental U.S. on tour and instead stay in Puerto Rico for a three-month

residency.

An estimated $200 million has been brought into the economy so far. And people came, not only for the concert, but for the local culture, staying

in hotels, eating at restaurants and even spending money on Bad Bunny themed tours. This is the multiplier effect of the creative industry,

incredible to see.

All right. Manchester United fans left feeling blue on Sunday after another defeat, this time to their city rivals. That story coming up after this.

Stick with CNN.

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GIOKOS: It was the biggest night in television on Sunday, as the 77th Primetime Emmy Awards aired live from Los Angeles. Netflix's "Adolescence"

took home six trophies the most of the night, and they won for outstanding limited series, directing outstanding lead actor, supporting actor and

actress, and writing all of those for a limited series or anthology.

It makes Actor Owen Cooper the youngest ever male winner of an Emmy. Other winners were severance which took two acting categories, including Britt

Lower, was win for outstanding lead actress in a drama and a first nomination. "Hacks" also took two awards, Outstanding Lead Actress in a

Comedy for Jean Smart and upstanding Supporting Actress for a comedy for Hannah Einbinder.

Beautiful evening. All right, the pressure on the Manchester United boss continues to grow after yet another loss this time around, it was their

city rivals inflicting a 3-0 blow. Amanda Davies joins us now to tell us all about it. Amanda, good to see you.

AMANDA DAVIES, CNN WORLD SPORT: Have you got any good news, Eleni? As a Manchester United --

GIOKOS: Well, actually, I do. I do. Actually, I was going to tell you Greece won against Finland in the Euro basket, but that's a completely

different story.

DAVIES: -- I'm sorry. Maybe I'd prefer to be talking about that.

GIOKOS: That's a --

DAVIES: It's another Manchester Derby, another defeat from Manchester United, another Monday morning, which feels a bit like Groundhog Day. But

yeah, pressure once again, mounting on Reuben Amorim.

GIOKOS: Yeah.

DAVIES: You know, they can't change another manager, can they? That's what we're going to be looking ahead to. We're talking about in just a couple of

minutes, in "World Sport". And I'm joined by CNN's Senior Sports Analyst Darren Lewis. I hope people can join us then.

GIOKOS: All right, we look forward to that update, Amanda, and I hope the rest of your week goes fabulous. All right, we'll see you after this. I'll

be back at the top of the hour. Stick with CNN.

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