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France's PM Resigns After Less Than A Month On The Job; Chief Israeli Negotiator Not Initially Attending Talks; Judge Stop Trump Plan To Send National Guard To Oregon; Abu Dhabi-Backed RedBird IMI Bought All3Media In 2024; U.S. Supreme Court Rejects Appeal From Ghislaine Maxwell. Aired 9-9:45a ET
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL HOST: Well, it's 05:00 p.m. in Abu Dhabi. I'm Becky Anderson, you're watching "Connect the World". Two major stories
we are following for you this hour. France in political turmoil again, the country's prime minister resigns just weeks after taking office.
We'll have a live report from Paris coming up. Plus, you're looking at a live shot of Gaza. Crucial talks between Israel and Hamas are set to begin
later today. We'll get you the details of what's at stake and who is at the table. Well, stock market in New York opens about 30 minutes from now.
And the indications, at least as far as the futures markets are concerned, is that we are looking at a better open once again, following on, of
course, from Gaines last week. We'll get back to the Monday morning opening in New York half an hour from now. Well, an unstable political situation in
France is looking even more precarious after the shock resignation of the country's prime minister there.
Sebastien Lecornu, announcing his departure today, just hours after unveiling his new cabinet. He'd been in office less than a month, and
blames his government's collapse on a lack of compromise, something that is -- has become incredibly elusive in France.
CNN's Melissa Bell joining us now from Paris. And Melissa, Cornu made a statement explaining his resignation. What did he say?
MELISSA BELL, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Too many red lines, essentially, not enough compromise, Becky. I think what's remarkable about
what's happening in France is not simply that this is the fourth prime minister in 16 months to try and fail to govern France.
It isn't just the brevity of his tenure becoming the shortest serving prime minister in the history of the French Republic. It is also the fact that
France appears to be becoming more ungovernable, even than it was when you consider the fate of his three predecessors.
The prime minister is appointed from the center to try and govern France over the course of those 16 months. All three of them lost the confidence
of parliament as they tried to push through on popular budget reforms. The point about Sebastien Lecornu Becky is that he never even had the chance to
try and get the confidence of parliament.
He lost the confidence of the cabinet minister said he'd appointed only 12 hours before. That's remarkable and simply unprecedented here in France.
What appears to have happened is that, as he tried to cobble together this sort of mainstream right and left traditional parties coming together to
try and get together a centrist cabinet that could try and push through some kind of resolution on what kind of budget France is going to have in
2026.
The mainstream right was unhappy about the number of seats it had gotten in his government, and so had threatened to collapse it preemptively, then he
decided to stand down. But it really leaves President Macron a very difficult spot with a dwindling number of options ahead of him, Becky.
ANDERSON: OK, well, he is the shortest serving PM as far as I can tell in France ever just what 27 days, President Macron was pinning his hopes on
this government to turn things around and pass a budget. So, what happens next?
BELL: Well, essentially, the president's choices come down either to dissolving parliament again, as he did in June 2024 setting off this period
of political instability, calling another snap parliamentary election. The danger in that is that we get not just a repeat of what happened last time,
where his centrist party lost seats to the benefit of the far right and the far left.
But polls suggest that the far right would do even better today than it did then, which would no doubt add uncertainty and must make that one of the
least palatable options for him. And yet, Becky, his only other option would be to try, this time, maybe not to name a centrist prime minister,
but one drawn from the far right, or indeed from the center left, the traditional left-wing party in French politics.
The question is whether any politician drawn from those formations would have any hope at all of cobbling together any kind of consensus on
governing, and be able to draw them into a cabinet. So those are essentially two options. And just to the question of the budget, it is past
urgent.
I mean, we saw the Paris Stock Exchange collapse on the news of the -- of this resignation of Sebastien Lecornu. The problem that they have is that
in order for the budget for 2026 to be put before parliamentarians, there's a very short amount of time, essentially, about a week left, for that to
happen in, in order for the budget to pass, that looks impossible at this stage.
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And what that means is that 2026 looks, said to be like 2025 what they call a white year, essentially a year in which the budget stays the same, with
none of those cuts deemed so necessary to avoid what has been this threatening budget debt crisis. So essentially, France at a standstill.
The looming debt crisis more urgent than ever it was, and with no apparent resolution on the horizon, Becky.
ANDERSON: Macron survives this. Does he briefly?
BELL: A lot of this is about his unpopularity, and not just with the street we've seen again demonstrations pick up, but also within parliament. I
think one of the difficulties that Sebastien Lecornu had is that he was considered a staunch ally, too much associated with the previous Macron
governments, as had a number of the nominations.
And that really angered this mainstream, traditional right party, which really wanted what they described as rupture. There had simply not been
enough distance between this new government and the unpopularity of Emmanuel Macron. That does not bode well for the future either, Becky.
ANDERSON: Melissa good to have you, and we will have you back next hour for more. Thank you. Well, to our other top story today, hopes are growing that
a ceasefire in Gaza could finally be agreed, even as major obstacles remain. Here's what we know this hour.
Hamas negotiating team is now in Egypt, which will host the talks with U.S. mediators in attendance. A Hamas source saying minutes ago that
negotiations will begin this evening. Another source says an Israeli team has just arrived, but without Israel's lead negotiator who may attend later
this week.
These talks coming after Hamas and Israel both voiced support for President Donald Trump's 20-point plan to end this war. President Trump, over the
weekend, posted that Hamas has been involved in positive discussions with other countries and urged both sides to quote, move fast.
Nic Robertson connecting us from Cairo with the very latest. Our viewers will be forgiven for thinking that we have been here before. What makes
these talks different, Nic?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: I think obviously that sense of optimism, the buy in, perhaps that President Trump has got for his
20-point plan, ceasefire plan from Arab leaders in the region, and that was echoed in a statement put out by their foreign ministers of the UAE, of
Turkey, of Pakistan, of Indonesia, of Saudi Arabia, of Jordan.
All saying that this is the moment and the opportunity and immediately must move into the negotiations of all the details. So, there was that. But I
think perhaps the principal thing here is that President Trump has weighed in heavily when Hamas said that it was willing to countenance the release
of all the hostages.
One of the 20 points most important point for Israel that President Trump immediately told Prime Minister Netanyahu to stop the bombing inside of
Gaza. Now it diminished. It didn't dissipate completely. 100 people have been killed since President Trump said that, but that was pressure on
Israel.
And equally, over the weekend, while the president has said, perhaps these talks will last a couple of days, and I think he was sort of signaling that
it would be quicker than that. Originally, he's also said to Hamas, if you don't get on board with this, you face complete obliteration.
So, I think it's President Trump's involvement. It's the buy in from the region and the fact that Prime Minister Netanyahu appears at the moment to
be following what President Trump is asking of him, but it is significant, as you say, that Ron Dermer, Prime Minister Netanyahu's top confidante, if
you will, and Minister of Strategic Affairs, was going to come in person. Now isn't going to come in person may join the talks later.
ANDERSON: Yeah. Good to have you. Thank you. President Trump is saying time is of the essence in these talks and speaking to U.S. sailors on Sunday. He
said he'd resolved a whole raft of foreign conflicts and is close to bringing peace to Gaza. Have a listen.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: We're putting out a lot of fights. So, do you see that we're going to be close to number
eight? Number eight, we don't want to send you into battle unless it's necessary, right? We're putting out a lot of fires.
Maybe some of you will be angry. You'll say, what's he doing? We want to fight. You know what if we can solve them the way I'm solving them? We
solve seven. We have another one that's taken 3000 years, and we're pretty close, but I don't want to talk about it until it's done.
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ANDERSON: Well for his part, the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expressing optimism about the remaining hostages. This is what he said
over the weekend.
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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: We are on the verge of a very big achievement. It's not final yet, but I hope that in the coming days,
during the Sukkot holiday, I will be able to announce to you the return of all the hostages in one phase, while the IDF remains deep inside the strip
in the territories that control it.
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ANDERSON: Well CNN's Jeremy Diamond standing by for us in Jerusalem. And I'm interested this Monday, given that we know these talks are set to begin
this evening. The head of the Israeli delegation, the most important sort of Israeli asset, not on the ground, and that is Ron Dermer at this point.
What's the perspective there on these talks, Jeremy?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, Israeli sources have expressed to us that the reason that Ron Dermer is not yet traveling with
the rest of the Israeli delegation to Egypt is because more progress still needs to be made before he will decide to actually join, signaling that
there is still work underway and that there are gaps that need to be bridged before Dermer, as the most senior member of that delegation, would
come in to deliver what one source described to us as the quote, final push for these negotiations.
And so, it does give you a sense yet again, of the fact that despite all of the momentum, despite all of the optimism, despite the sense that this time
truly is different, that there are still major differences between these two sides that need to be bridged, and we don't yet have the clearest sense
of how easy or difficult it will be to actually bridge those differences.
But we do know what some of those are, Becky. I mean, first of all, there is this issue of the lines to which the Israeli military would withdraw to
during and following the release of all 48 hostages. The map that President Trump posted over the weekend shows the deepest Israeli lines of control
inside of Gaza that have ever before been proposed in ceasefire negotiations with Israeli forces remaining as far in as 6.5 kilometers into
Gaza in one point of the Gaza Strip.
And so, Hamas is sure to come back with, you know, a counter proposal to that, and try and push those lines back. And then, of course, there's the
big issue of disarmament, whether or not Hamas is actually willing to disarm as part of these talks, they have yet to say so publicly. We know,
of course, that's a requirement for the United States and Israel.
And then, more broadly, Becky, I think there still is an open question about whether Hamas will agree to release the 48 hostages before everything
else is agreed to. The Israelis have signaled in recent days that they want to move forward with what they're describing as the first phase of this
agreement, meaning the release of all the hostages and initial Israeli redeployment inside of Gaza.
But Hamas may want everything to be agreed to. That has been the contention in the past, and why? A part of the reason why these talks have fallen
apart before. So, there is a lot that still needs to be addressed between these two sides, and questions about how difficult it will be. We will
start to find out as these talks get underway in Egypt this evening.
ANDERSON: Good to have you that see perspective there from Jerusalem with Jeremy Diamond, CNN's Correspondent there. I want to bring in CNN Political
and Global Affairs Analyst Barak Ravid now. He's also Foreign Policy Reporter for "AXIOS". Barak, good to have you.
And you have had the opportunity to speak directly to the U.S. President since this latest sort of Trump plan, as it were, was conceived. Can you
just explain what he's told you, and what your sort of perspective on these talks is. As we begin this week with mediators in Egypt, not everybody is
there, as we've just been discussing, but just as we stand today, October the sixth, Monday.
BARAK RAVID, CNN POLITICAL & GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Hi, Becky, thank you for having me first. I just want to say something about the issue that you
discussed earlier with Jeremy and Nic about the fact that Ron Dermer is not in Egypt right now. And I have to say that, at least from everything I
hear, I think this is a totally insignificant issue.
Dermer hasn't been just, you know, just as a fact, Dermer hasn't been in person in any previous negotiation round. So, this is not unusual in any
way. The only reason Ron Dermer is heading the negotiation team was a political decision by Netanyahu eight months ago after Trump assumed
office.
And Netanyahu decided that he's going to conduct those negotiations with the United States and not with Hamas. This is why Dermer came into the
picture, and he's going to be in Egypt once White House Envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner, are going to arrive either tomorrow
on Wednesday.
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So that's why Dermer is not there. I think it has zero significance of the actual negotiation that's being run by professionals that actually know the
details. That's number one. Number two, Donald Trump is completely adamant on getting a deal in the coming days, and he will do anything in his power
to make it happen.
That's what I learned from talking to him directly over the last few days and from talking to all of his closest advisors. He does not take as an
option, collapse of those talks and that will end with no deal. I don't think Donald Trump and his team will allow either of the negotiators from
both sides to leave Egypt without a deal.
This is why I think there is a bigger chance than ever before that this will get done in the coming days.
I think perhaps a confusion over Ron Dermer is that at the beginning of 2025 as many people understand that he took over the sort of lead role for
these negotiations from David Barnea, who was, you know, Head of Mossad. So, I think for some time there has been perhaps some confusion as to the
role that Ron Dermer is playing.
He's certainly been asked to lead this delegation there, hasn't he buyer by the Israeli Prime Minister, as you rightly point out. Look the other person
that you name check there, who will reportedly be on the ground with Steve Witkoff, is Jared Kushner, Donald Trump's son in law.
There have been questions about his presence in these sensitive talks, given that he has no role in the current administration. This is what CNN,
sorry, this is what reporters were told at a White House briefing last week, when Karoline Leavitt was very specifically asked about Jared
Kushner's role.
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SHAWN MCCREESH, NEW YORK TIMES CORRESPONDENT: How did the White House decide that it is appropriate for Jared Kushner to be working on matters
that involve Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, three countries that combined have given him more than $2.5 billion for his investment firm.
KAROLINE LEAVITT, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I think it's frankly despicable that you're trying to suggest that it's inappropriate for Jared
Kushner, who is widely respected around the world and has great trust in relationships with these critical partners in these countries.
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ANDERSON: I think most people will agree it was a perfectly sensible question. I guess the sort of you know, the follow up question to that is,
what is Jared Kushner's role at this point alongside Steve Witkoff? What's your sense, Barak?
RAVID: First, Becky, I have to say that. I might not be most people, but I actually agree with what Karoline Leavitt said Jared, if anything, for
Jared Kushner to put his head into this swamp in the Middle East, this is something that will be very bad for his business. War in the Middle East is
not good for business, for anybody.
And I think that what at least I see from covering this day to day, hour to hour, minute to minute, when Kushner's involvement in this issue increased.
This is when the progress started. This is why I think it is highly important that he is involved now.
ANDERSON: Barak, I guess, at the beginning of what could be a very consequential week. I mean Benjamin Netanyahu promising the Israeli people
that the hostages will be released within days. We're hearing a similar line from the U.S. Administration. There are clear hopes for the release of
these hostages by so many people involved in these negotiations.
What's your sense of the sort of timeline now? What if anything can we expect to come out of Sharm El-Sheikh early this week? And what's your
sense of you know where this goes in the next days, not weeks.
RAVID: So, I think it's days, not weeks. I don't know how many days. I don't know if it's going to -- if a deal is possible by the end of this
week, the beginning of next week.
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I don't know how to measure it, but we're not looking at weeks and weeks and weeks of negotiations, I think what we will see is that at a certain
point in the next few days, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner will arrive in Egypt, will look at the gaps that remain between the parties, and will
basically put down their own solutions for those gaps, and will demand both parties sign on to it.
I think this is what we're going to see. This is why I think a lot of what has been negotiated so far is really just an opening position, including
the maps, including the 20-point plan that I think crunch time will be when Witkoff and Kushner land in Egypt. And I think what they're going to do is
that they'll basically tell the parties, listen guys, you want this.
You want this. We think that this is the middle between you. This is the deal sign now. I think this is what we're going to see in the next few
days.
ANDERSON: Yeah. And I'm hearing a similar line from many people that I speak to around this region. Look, the devil is going to be in the detail
when it comes to the implementation of this plan, the broad framework, the roadmap, is there. And, you know, frankly, many, most people will say this
is as close as we have got to an end to this bloody comment.
If this doesn't work, one has to wonder, what will. It's good to have you, Barak, thank you very much.
RAVID: -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Still to come, we are following strong reaction --
RAVID: Mark, much, much, much worse.
ANDERSON: We lost him from multiple fronts after a federal judge blocked the Trump Administration from deploying National Guard troops to Portland,
Oregon. More after this.
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ANDERSON: U.S. President Donald Trump's attempts to deploy National Guard troops into U.S. cities. He deems as war zones has hit another roadblock.
On Sunday, a federal judge temporarily blocked an attempt by his administration to deploy National Guard troops from California or any other
state to Portland, Oregon.
Portland is the latest U.S. city targeted by President Trump to address what he says is out of control crime and protests over his administration's
immigration enforcement. CNN's Alayna Treene following the story for us and joining us now, Alayna.
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah, Becky, I think all eyes are going to be on the appeals court today, after a federal judge, who I should
point out was a Trump appointed judge, ruled that essentially she's very skeptical of the arguments that the Trump Administration is using to try
and send the U.S. military into cities where their state and local leaders are essentially saying they do not want them.
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Now to get a little bit more into it, the judge ruled late last night against the Trump Administration for the second time in just two days, as
it tries to send two international guard troops in to Portland. And I should note the judge had initially said on Saturday, look, you cannot
deploy and activate the Oregon National Guard to go to Portland.
And so, what the Trump Administration tried to do instead was call up the National Guard from states like Texas and California to send them into the
city to deal with what they argue are out of hand protests on ICE and immigration different centers and also crime overall.
Now the judge in this case, she actually argued to the Trump Administration that she believes they're trying to sidestep her order, something that you
could tell she was very kind of frustrated with from the start of that hearing late last night. However, we have to really see how this plays out.
And this kind of battle is ongoing. Now, what I think, the big picture here, though, is what's been really interesting is that this idea of the
President trying to deploy the military to go into American cities. At first, people thought that this might be a one off or two off. We saw him
do this, of course, with Washington, D.C.
We also saw it happen in Los Angeles back in June. But what we're learning is that they have no plans to stop doing this. This is really becoming a
much bigger agenda priority for the president. We did hear from Stephen Miller as well. He's one of the President's Deputy Chief of Staff.
He's also been an architect of a lot of this plan. He essentially said that they want to see some of this action in all 50 states. So, there's no signs
of the Trump Administration trying to peel this back. Instead, they're going to continue to fight this hard in the courts, Becky.
ANDERSON: Good to have you, Alayna, thank you. Well, the trillion-dollar entertainment and media industry is rapidly changing. We're going to speak
to a leading voice in Global TV on how new technologies will change the growing content industry. More on that is coming up.
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ANDERSON: Well, I want to talk about a multi trillion-dollar business now, entertainment and media. The consultant PwC, estimates it will be worth 3.5
trillion dollars as an industry by 2029 but when you talk about media and content creation, what are we actually talking about? Well, in part, it's
the fun stuff, you and I like to watch like this.
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ALAN CUMMING, HOST OF REALITY SHOW "THE TRAITORS": Ah dear me, what treachery awaits us this season.
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The fates whisper of betrayal, backstabbing. On the occasional dagger in the dark.
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ANDERSON: Well, that was Alan Cumming in the hit reality show "The Traitors". This fall, it swept up five Emmy Awards, winning in every
category for which it was nominated. The murder mystery show is set in a castle in Scotland. And like many successful British productions, it has UK
and U.S. versions, plus some these days for its makers, "The Traitors", is just one gem from a broad slate of content.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is drama on another scale.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Take a breath.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Start the engine.
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ANDERSON: Well, All3media is the group behind all the shows in that clip. It's the UK's largest independent TV production company, and in a fast-
changing media industry, it changed hands last year, acquired by the Media and Entertainment Investment Company RedBird IMI here in this region, from
Abu Dhabi for $1.45 billion.
And I'm delighted to say that Jane Turton, the CEO of All3Media is with me. She's grown the group from 19 production companies and labels to more than
40 today. You were appointed CEO in 2015 last year. The Hollywood reporter named you and its list of the most powerful women in international TV. I'm
honored.
JANE TURTON, CEO OF ALL3MEDIA: Correct -- Nice to being here.
ANDERSON: Jane is with me here in Abu Dhabi, and I want to talk about your business, but also get your sense through the lens that you have on the
sort of wider media and entertainment industry, because it's a massive global business, and those who are in positions of leadership like you
these days will be spending.
I know, a lot of your time thinking about how you adapt and navigate what is a very fast changing environment. Let's start with your business, and
your latest numbers actually showed a drop in revenue said at the time, it was due to quote, softer demand in a challenging market. Can we just talk
about what you meant when you said a challenging market? Let's just set this up.
TURTON: Yeah, of course. So, look, I think that any change in our customers, any change in the platforms we sell to, any change in viewer
behavior, prompts inevitably, some disruption in the market. And what we are seeing, what we have seen, is all of that. So, people, young people in
particular, are not watching television in the way they used to, certainly the way I did when I grew up.
Linear is very different from linear back in the day, people are watching far more content on social media platforms. All of those things that we
know as parents and observers of populations we see is prompting change. That then, in turn, has an impact, has a knock on, if you like, onto the
people who are the intermediary, the B2B of our world.
So, the channels and that has caused, you know, complexity, let's put it that way. I think challenges definitely in the way that we produce and the
way our businesses work.
ANDERSON: The UK has been for years, one of the most exciting, creative sorts of content markets in the world. How would you describe it just out
of interest these days, in 2025.
TURTON: I think it is still that, without a shadow of a doubt, I think we take risk. I think we innovate. I think we're helped massively by very
strong public sector, public service sector. We have a strong BBC Channel 4, and ITV a Channel 5. And they are they celebrate innovation, and I think
culturally, that's something that we've always done and that we continue to do.
And back to the change point, I think, for me, looking at longer term, that is the rescue remedy. It's the fact that we continue to employ the world's
best talent and we take risk and we innovate
ANDERSON: Just before we go on to that wider story, let me just press you on one point, the All3Media, of course, owned by the private equity firm,
RedBird IMI and Abu Dhabi based media, sports and entertainment platform. There were plans for the company to acquire the production arm of ITV in
the UK.
The CEO, Jeff Zucker, CEO of the RedBird IMI, gave a gloomy assessment of the UK's investment environment, saying, quote, as we think about investing
in companies that we want to grow and eventually take public. London is not necessarily the place where you want to do that. Do you agree? And do you
worry that the UK is losing its creative edge?
TURTON: No, I don't worry that the UK is losing its creative edge. I'm clearly not a government policy maker, so I'm not going to comment
specifically on the environment in terms of M&A listing. I think he was referring to in that case. I am very clear, though, that it remains an
extremely healthy creative sector, and that in my job is the most important thing.
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But not just that, remember, geography is the concept of geography has changed dramatically now that we have global streamers. So, our biggest
customer this year is Netflix. We don't make programs for Netflix for a specific territory. We make programs for Netflix for a world audience.
And I think what we're looking at, therefore, is a world that has become much less constrained by geography, by jurisdiction, and actually that has
increased the opportunity for big players like us.
ANDERSON: Right. And you would have been bigger. Had you taken on merged with ITV. And I'm being told those plans are dead in the water at this
point. But given your size. Let's just talk about your growth strategy. What that looks like in a world where, for example, David Ellison, the CEO
for Paramount and Skydance want to transform his company into a quote Technology Enterprise with the rise of streaming platforms and digital
content.
We have all transformed into a technology hub, in a way. But how can media platforms merge into big tech and still be creative is one of the questions
that everybody's asking themselves. So, what's your strategy and how does that sort of fit into this very disrupted and disruptive media landscape
these days?
TURTON: So, I guess, like any business person, I look at the things I can control and things I think grow the business. So, for me, it's talent, it's
IP, of course, it's technology, and technology sits very, very clearly amongst talent and IP, whether it's AI, whether it's the way, as I said
before, people are viewing content that's all affected by technology.
And David, of course, is right. Do I see All3Media as a technology company? No, but I see technology being a major contributor to the success of
All3Media. But I would if I were to dare to challenge that, it's just tech. I think it's absolutely talent. It's absolutely IP, which is partly the
product, and it is absolutely technology which is part of the facilitation of all of that.
ANDERSON: Given what you just said, how do you believe that the world of content will be affected by AI --
TURTON: That's considerably.
ANDERSON: Going forward --
TURTON: That's considerably --
ANDERSON: As a cost benefit analysis, more benefit than cost for an organization like yours?
TURTON: I think it brings risk and it brings opportunity, and that's a safe answer, isn't it? Probably slightly too safe. I think -- look, I think we
have to be cautious, because there are rights involved. There are people's livelihoods involved. I think we have to do these things with our eyes wide
open as to the effect of any change.
So that goes without saying, but I do think if it's helping us deliver efficiency, if it's helping us actually produce shows that were otherwise
unproducible or producible at the right budget, where they could never have been afforded in the past. Then I think it's starting to play an important
part in storytelling, in allowing people access and production around shows that perhaps were prohibitively expensive or impossible to produce in the
old days.
So, I think it's almost impossible invite me back in 10 years' time. I'll be very old by then. And we'll sit here and look back hopefully and say, it
was fascinating. Let's chart the progress. Right now, today, we are all looking at it. We are using it. We're using it for, I think we've got, I
mean, hundreds of use cases at the moment.
But we're doing it, I hope, in a way that is clever and cautious, because, as I say, it does get to rights and livelihoods and all those important
things.
ANDERSON: Well, I will have you back -- Jane, next time you're in town. It's lovely to have you here.
TURTON: It's a pleasure. Thank you.
ANDERSON: -- How -- you know, how this landscape here might provide for sort of compelling story telling opportunities as well.
TURTON: Yeah.
ANDERSON: And that's something that we look at all the time here, is as we watch not just Abu Dhabi and the UAE evolve, but the entire region. So,
it's good to have you. I know, like I say, I'll have you back when next you're here.
TURTON: Thank you.
ANDERSON: But I'm hoping that won't, certainly won't be 10 years from now - - Thank you.
TURTON: Thank you very much.
ANDERSON: -- CNN's Coy Wire will join me live with a look at all the biggest sports headlines for you, including two major NFL upsets. More
after this.
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ANDERSON: Breaking news from the U.S. Supreme Court, the court has declined to hear an appeal from Ghislaine Maxwell Jeffrey Epstein's former
girlfriend. She had argued that she should have been shielded from prosecution under a plea agreement that Epstein struck with federal
authorities.
More of course on that as we move through the coming hours. Well, there have been two unbeaten teams left in the NFL heading into Sunday, and both
suffered big upsets. Super Bowl Champions Philadelphia hadn't tasted defeat in 2025. The other team to lose was our Coy Wire Former Squad, the Buffalo
Bills, and he is up next with CNN's "World Sport" that is after this.
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