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Trump to Meet Hungary's Orban to Discuss Russian Oil; Kalmaegi Killed Nearly 200 in Philippines, 100 plus Missing; Criminal Gangs Torture Migrants and Hold Them for Ransom; U.S. Government Shutdown Drags into 38th Day; Manchester City Host Liverpool in Blockbuster Clash Sunday. Aired 9- 10a ET

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CHRISTINA MACFARLANE, CNN HOST, CONNECT THE WORLD: This is the scene in Washington, D.C., where the longest shutdown in U.S. history drags on. It

is 09:00 a.m. there and 02:00 p.m. here in London. I'm Christina Macfarlane. This is "Connect the World".

Also coming up, U.S. air travelers feel the pain of the shutdown after the Federal Aviation Administration's cuts the number of flights. And U.S.

President Trump meeting with Hungary's Viktor Orban at the White House on Russia and trade. Meanwhile Typhoon Kalmaegi slams Vietnam, after leaving

death and destruction behind in the Philippines.

And stock markets in New York open in about 30 minutes from now. As you can see all Futures there currently down in the red. Well, U.S. President

Donald Trump is set to meet with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban today for high stakes talk about Russian oil.

The authoritarian leader is a Trump ally, but faces a major dilemma with the president. Hungary is very dependent on Russian oil and has a friendly

relationship with Moscow. Last month, Hungary asked the U.S. for an exemption from sanctions for purchasing oil from Moscow, but so far, the

U.S. hasn't granted it.

Mr. Orban is expected to push President Trump once again for some economic relief. CNN's Alayna Treene is providing this story from the White House as

the two leaders expected to meet in the coming hours. And Alayna, what do we expect might then come out of this meeting? Is President Trump going to

give the Hungarian Prime Minister what he wants? What are your sources telling you?

ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: I mean, that is the key question. And the president actually addressed this Christina last week, he noted,

when he was talking with reporters on board Air Force One that Viktor Orban, the Hungarian Prime Minister, asked him.

He said, my friend asked me for an exemption. He said he didn't grant it. But you know, that is a decision that he has to make. And so far from my

conversations with people in that building behind me, Christina, it's unclear which way he is going to go, but I would remind you, these two men

have a very long history, and one that is very warm.

They have a very friendly relationship. The president, President Donald Trump, has often argued that Orban is like him. He is a friend and ally. He

is someone who has some shared ideals, and he also argues that he's a very strong leader. I note some people refer to that as him being an

authoritarian leader.

But there will be some level of, I think you know, mutual admiration that you can anticipate from this meeting today. And to your point, I do think

you know the fact that Orban, right now, is going through a re-election campaign, and also Hungary itself is really struggling economically right

now.

Their economy is very sluggish, and there are a lot of concerns, and he has raised these with the president directly about the impact of the United

States sanctions, recent sanctions, I should point out, on Russia's two largest energy companies, and that's because, of course, Hungary relies a

lot on Russian oil, so we just have to see which way this can go.

And I do think it is going to be a big test as Orban is looking at the politics of his own political future, of his foreign policy prowess, and

whether or not he can get his friend on board with an exemption like this. Some other similarities, though, just between these two leaders.

And definitely a conversation, I think that is expected to come up today, is that they both had very differing opinions with the way that Europe is

handling the war between Russia and Ukraine. Hungary is part of the European Union, but I'd argue Orban is the most outspoken and probably

closest ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin in the entire EU block, and so that's another factor as well that kind of just adds to what could

happen today.

I'd also remind you that Hungary and Orban were supposed to host the potential summit between President Donald Trump and Russian President Putin

when they were planning to meet in Budapest to kind of have a second meeting of these two leaders and see if they could have an end to the war.

Of course, that summit ended up being canceled out, right? But that's another part of all of this, and so really that is the question today is

whether or not Trump will grant Orban this exemption. It's very much unclear at this point. We'll have to see how the meeting

actually goes.

MACFARLANE: Yeah, and I was actually going to ask Alayna if we expect Orban to push again, or to perhaps try and lay the groundwork again for potential

-- for Hungary as being a potential meeting place for Putin and President Trump, especially as you say, it would be politically expedient for him

right now, with those elections coming up to have the presence of Donald Trump in Hungary.

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TREENE: Oh, absolutely. And you often hear Orban as well talk about how great the U.S. Hungarian relationship is now that President Trump has taken

office once again. Look, I think that's honestly going to be more of a question of whether or not the Trump Administration actually thinks they

can get anything out of a second meeting between Trump and Putin.

I will say in my conversations with people here at the White House, they argue if a second summit were to come together, they anticipate they would

go back and look at Budapest again as the potential meeting place.

But that's very much a key question, because as of now, they do not think Russia is at the point where a meeting would be beneficial for the United

States. But I think Orban will continue probably, to make the case that if there ever is a meeting, please host it in my country.

MACFARLANE: Yes, and we'll wait to see, of course, if the Trump Administration stand firm on Russian sanctions with that request that's

likely to come in today. Alayna Treene there from the White House, appreciate it. Thank you.

TREENE: Thank you.

MACFARLANE: Now, tens of thousands of U.S. air travelers are facing a disruption day. They're feeling the bites of the U.S. government shutdown,

with airlines canceling more than 800 flights so far today. That comes after the FAA ordered a 4 percent reduction in the total daily flight

number, which will increase to 10 percent by next Friday, if the shutdown is still ongoing.

Well, the cancelations are impacting 40 of the busiest U.S. airports. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy says reductions are for safety reasons

as air traffic controllers are forced to work mandatory overtime without pay. CNN's Jason Carroll is in the middle of the travel disruptions at

Newark Liberty International Airport in New Jersey. So how is all of this playing out there for travelers, for airlines, for delays, for cancels?

JASON CARROLL, CNN U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, look a lot of frustration here on the ground, no doubt about that. But when you -- but

when you stand here, Christina, and you look around, I mean, that departure is board behind me. I mean, looks like the flights are taking off on time.

When I was looking at the security line, security flowing through -- people walking by. I mean, there was just a lot of frustration and a lot of

stories about how their travel has been disrupted because of all of this. And you think about what's going on here, the backdrop, as you said, the

FAA cutting flights to 40 of the busiest airports across the United States.

That means places like Newark, places like JFK, places like LaGuardia, Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago. I mean, so many cities affected by this, so many

carriers as well. We heard from them, Delta canceling 170 flights. United 200, American 220, Southwest Airlines canceling 100 flights. And that's

just where we stand right now.

I want you to listen to, for an example, a couple that I spoke to just a short while ago, they flew in from Hungary. They're trying to get back to

North Carolina. Eventually, they just gave up.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They said, yeah, you're still going to be flying out at 10 o'clock. Well, of course, 10 o'clock came and ran.

CARROLL: This is 10 o'clock --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- at night, OK? And then they said, cancel flight.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But it wasn't even on the board, and we just went to an agent, and they looked it up, and they said, nope, that's canceled too.

Of course, the whole board, there were so many cancelations, so we're going to just rent a car and drive

Hotel.

CARROLL: So, well, what --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Drive from hotel.

CARROLL: Drive from where?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From here to Wilmington, North Carolina. People are really hurting out here, and it's not just the traveling public, but it's

affecting the whole economy, and you people are to blame.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It will --

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CARROLL: And Christina, when he says, you people are to blame, obviously he's referring and talking directly to U.S. lawmakers, still in the midst

of this government shutdown, still a lot of frustration here on the ground, and the weekend hasn't even gotten underway.

MACFARLANE: Yes, potentially still, so much more to come. The frustration there very apparent. Jason, appreciate it. Thank you. Now, United Nations

peacekeepers are making an appeal to Israel. They're urging the country to hold its fire after a series of new strikes in Lebanon. Israel says it hit

Hezbollah weapon storage facilities on Thursday, claiming the militant group is trying to rebuild its operations in Lebanon.

For his part, Lebanon's President is denouncing the strikes as a quote full-fledged crime. The U.S. worked to broker a ceasefire in Lebanon last

year after an Israeli ground offensive against Hezbollah. Well, the U.S. and Russia are exploring the possibility of resuming nuclear testing.

U.S. President Donald Trump says he wants to restart the process after a decades long pause. Our Fred Pleitgen has the report from Moscow.

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: So, Russian President Vladimir Putin just ordered his ministers and top generals to

prepare for possible new Russian nuclear tests. Now that's potentially huge news. It's been decades since the Russians conducted a nuclear explosion,

and they are, of course, a nuclear superpower.

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So, I got in touch with Putin's spokesman, and he immediately sent me what he called an important clarification, listen in.

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DMITRY PESKOV, KREMLIN SPOKESPERSON: But I want to draw your attention to one very important thing. So, we are not starting preparations. We're just

investigating whether it is necessary to start preparations. We're still -- we're still bounded by our obligations on the overall ban of nuclear tests.

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PLEITGEN: After U.S. President Donald Trump said that the U.S. would begin nuclear testing again. Vladimir Putin called a meeting of his National

Security Council, and that's where he said this.

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VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT: I'm instructing the Foreign Ministry, the Defense Ministry, the special services, and relevant civilian agencies

to do everything necessary to collect additional information on this issue, analyze it within the framework of the Security Council and make agreed

proposals on the possible start of work on the preparations for nuclear weapons testing.

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PLEITGEN: President Trump has accused both China and Russia of secretly conducting nuclear tests. Now, the Russians have indeed been modernizing

their nuclear forces. They've come up with things like a torpedo that can allegedly cause a radioactive tsunami, and also recently launched a missile

that's actually powered by a nuclear engine and that has an indefinite range the Russians say.

One of the things Russians haven't done, though, is actually exploded a nuclear bomb. And the Russians say that they do still feel bound by the

Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, but what they want is for the Americans, for the Trump Administration, to provide them with additional information as to

what the U.S. President actually meant when he said that the U.S. would begin nuclear testing again.

MACFARLANE: Thanks to Fred for that. Now, Typhoon Kalmaegi has destroyed homes and uprooted trees in Central Vietnam. It's one of the strongest

typhoons on record to hit the country. And in the Philippines, the storm killed nearly 200 people and left a trail of destruction. Survivors are

faced with a giant recovery operation, even they prepare for another typhoon this weekend. Mike Valerio has more from Beijing.

MIKE VALERIO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So important to note here, we're not talking about just one typhoon impacting Asia in a week's time. We're

talking about two of them. So, let's put up the forecast track. You can see Typhoon Kalmaegi, the path that it's taken across the Philippines into

Vietnam, across Cambodia, Lao, ending up in Thailand late Friday into early Saturday.

But of course, there's the second storyline of the Philippines already preparing for the second Typhoon Fung-Wong, which is expected to hit Luzon,

the northern stretches of the Philippines by late Sunday into early Monday morning. We're also seeing new pictures of the devastation courtesy of

Typhoon Kalmaegi coming in from Vietnam.

This is a shrimp farm that has been devastated along the coastline. According to "The Associated Press", more than 500,000 people evacuated

ahead of this storm in Vietnam. We're going to hear from that shrimp farmer, just about his loss and what he faces in the weeks and months to

come, listen to what he said.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even though the storms are more frequent now, I will still have to try and borrow money to build a stronger farm than what I

lost. I don't know how else I could do it.

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VALERIO: So also in Vietnam, according to our latest reporting, there are three people who are missing, swept out to Sea on Lisan Island, that's in

Kwan Yai Province. The context here of what Vietnam has been dealing with is, you know, areas certainly near the storm path are still recovering from

heavy rains.

Last week, the ancient town of Hoi An in the former imperial capital of Kway, impacted by those heavy rains last week. Moving to the Philippines,

our latest reporting indicates that there are more than 100 people who are still missing. Cebu City, the tourist hot spot, is among the epicenters of

the devastation, where we have seen rescuers move through waist deep water trying to rescue people from the roofs and submerged homes.

This is all happening as people in the Philippines have been protesting about what they say are lack of substantial flood projects. And again, from

their points of view, they're leveling allegations of people taking kickbacks for these flood control projects and money, rather than going to

the flood control projects, going into the pockets of construction companies, legislators, senators, and then leaving them with these pictures

of devastation.

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In the meantime, the Philippines, again, still is in this state of calamity, a nationwide declaration, making it easier for emergency aid to

be distributed, and again, preparing itself for the second Typhoon Fung- Wong, which is expected by the end of the weekend. Mike Valerio, CNN, Beijing.

MACFARLANE: OK, still to come, migrants captured and tortured by criminal gangs who send videos of the abuse to the victims' families. CNN heads to

Libya to investigate these horrific crimes.

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MACFARLANE: Global immigration has hit record levels this year. More and more migrants from countries such as Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia

are fleeing war and persecution. Many of them make their way to Libya in the hopes of reaching Europe, Canada and the United States.

A warning what you're about to see is disturbing. Once those migrants reach Libya, many of them are captured by criminal gangs. CNN has identified

videos of these migrants being brutally tortured. Those videos are then sent to family members around the world who demand thousands of dollars in

ransoms. CNN's Isobel Yeung traveled to the heart of this story in Libya, where this historic abuse is taking place.

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ISOBEL YEUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We're here in this barren southernmost part of Libya, at the heart of the migrant trail. Authorities,

say they're overwhelmed with the influx of recent arrivals. Several 100 migrants are being held in this detention center after illegally crossing

into the country.

YEUNG: Hi, Assalamu Alaikum. You have not left this room for three months.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, yeah. People are sick here.

YEUNG: People are sick?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're sick.

YEUNG: I'm not surprised people are getting sick. It's crowded. Pretty shocking conditions.

YEUNG (voice-over): Cramton (ph) among them is a man who has just been arrested on suspicion of collecting money for ransoms. The police

interrogate him over his involvement.

YEUNG: It seems like -- admitting to his involvement, saying that he's involved in the whole other system, which is taking money from these

migrants and paying his boss, who is the big trafficker.

YEUNG (voice-over): The suspect, hands over crucial details about a farm where he says the migrants who paid him are held for ransom.

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The police gear up and plan to raid the premises.

YEUNG: So, these guys are heading towards a location that they believe a trafficker is operating, where he's holding migrants that they believe have

been tortured and held for ransom.

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YEUNG: They're searching through this room that they believe is where migrants were being held. It doesn't look like anyone's like they fled or

been taken to the next spot. There's a lot of clothes hanging up here.

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YEUNG (voice-over): Unknown numbers of migrants are still under the control of their captors. Women and children are often the most vulnerable. In this

detention center, almost everyone tells us they've been trafficked and tortured, mostly Eritreans and Ethiopians they've paid their ransoms and

are now waiting for help from the U.N. Because of the harrowing details of what they've been through we're keeping some people here anonymous.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Those guys, they touch me and they do something every day, like for a voice they do, like that.

YEUNG: It sounds like you've been sexually abused. Have you had any medical treatment for it? None.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She checked me, like for pregnant.

YEUNG: You're not pregnant.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I'm not pregnant, but it is hard to watch even I want to die, but I cannot do.

YEUNG: You've been hurting yourself.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah.

YEUNG: Understand. It's so awful to hear someone who's so young, you're just 16-years-old talk about not wanting to live anymore.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every girl --

YEUNG: Every girl is the same.

YEUNG (voice-over): Suddenly, everyone in the room breaks down.

YEUNG: Everyone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everyone.

YEUNG: I mean, it's actually unbearable amounts of pain in this one room. Just every single woman child in here just seems like they've suffered the

most horrific experience.

YEUNG (voice-over): Girls as young as 14, children, pregnant women. These are just a small sample of people trafficked through a living hell. It's

rare that authorities get to the torture sites in time. Back in 2022 acting on a tip off from migrants who'd escaped, they were able to free over 150

people.

They were held inside these rooms for months and said they'd been brutally abused. Standing outside guarding the rooms was an Eritrean man called

Sinat Tesfaye (ph). In this footage, you can see the newly released migrants pointing and screaming at Tesfaye.

We received special permission to meet with Tesfaye in a high security prison. He's been convicted of kidnapping and is serving a life sentence.

He says he's innocent and that he was one of the migrants being trafficked, rather than someone responsible.

YEUNG: How do you explain the fact that so many of the migrants that you were with that day say that they were tortured and abused and treated

horrifically, and you're saying that you saw nothing.

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YEUNG: Why is it do you think that Eritreans end up working with these Libyans in these human trafficking networks?

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YEUNG (voice-over): This business is bigger than one man. The network Tesfaye was accused of operating in stretches across this vast desert and

has links to traffickers in Uganda Ethiopia and the Emirates.

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Libya can't tackle this alone, while a rise in anti-immigration politics is failing to translate into international cooperation. Many thousands of

people making this treacherous journey will continue to live through this never-ending nightmare. Isobel Yeung, CNN, Libya.

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MACFARLANE: Welcome back. I'm Christina Macfarlane in London, and you are watching "Connect the World". Well, he's already the richest man on the

planet, worth an estimated 473 billion. But on Thursday, Tesla shareholders approved an unprecedented pay package for CEO, Elon Musk that could, over

the next decade, turn him into the world's first trillionaire.

Well, to put that in perspective, a trillion dollars is more than most countries annual GDP, and it's the equivalent of making $275 million a day

for the next 10 years. So that sink in. Joining us to discuss is Gillian Tett, Columnist for "The Financial Times", and Provost at King's College

Cambridge. Really great to see you, Gillian.

I just want to point out off the top, Gillian, that this is really awful timing, you know, for Elon Musk to be marked as the trillion-dollar man, as

most of America are still suffering with the effects of this prolonged shutdown. But that being said, we know that Musk's path here to trillion

dollars comes with some pretty big caveats.

His compensation comes in the form of a stock grant that would give him, I think, as much as 423.7 additional Tesla shares over the next 10 years. But

before he's able to collect Musk needs to hit certain milestones. Can you just talk us through what those are?

GILLIAN TETT, COLUMNIST, FINANCIAL TIMES: Well, they are quite extraordinary the milestones. I mean, everything about this story is

extraordinary, as indeed, the entire career of Elon Musk is. To get a trillion-dollar payout, he must raise Tesla's valuation 6 times to 8.5

trillion, which is a very big reach, and he's also got to boost the earnings 24 times to 400 billion.

So that's incredibly difficult as a target. He won't get any pay or bonus during the decade when he's trying to do that. Many people might say, well,

that's almost impossible, but it's worth remembering that Elon Musk has already created a company with a valuation of 1.4 trillion, which is more

than the other car makers combined.

So, he's achieved a lot of miracles already. The question really is can he continue, and does he deserve this kind of pay if he does?

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Because, of course, many big shareholders, including groups like the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund, say no, this is completely ridiculous,

even if he hits these extraordinary, difficult targets.

MACFARLANE: Yeah, well, we know that 75 percent of shareholders backed him to do it, so I guess that's a bigger question as to whether he deserves it.

Let's continue though in the hyperbole for the moment, and switch gears to the AI craze Gillian.

Because we've seen a turbulent week on Wall Street and even in global markets, which led to a tech sell off. And leading up to this, we've seen

historic sky-high valuations for some AI companies. Nvidia recently crossed the $5 trillion valuation. Do you join those economists who are believing

right now that the giant AI bubble is coming?

TETT: Well, I think a giant AI bubble is already here. But it's important to distinguish between the underlying technology which is real and could

end up having quite a dramatic impact on many sectors of our economy, and the valuation of the stocks, which appears to be completely overhyped.

And perhaps one of the best analogies to draw is where the railway craze or mania in the 19th century, when investors got wildly excited about this new

technology called Railways, poured lots of money into it, which enabled companies to lay down all the tracks, which we're still benefiting from

today.

However, only a small proportion of the railway companies actually survived and prospered. Many of them lost money, and many investors lost money. So,

the problem right now is that the AI technology is transformational, but we don't know who the winners are going to be, and people are betting on

everyone right now. And the one thing we do know is that not everyone is going to succeed.

MACFARLANE: And I know you've been writing about this in "The Financial Times" today, and you said that in the long run, bubbles always deflate

often when least expected. So, if that is the case what is your expectation for when this might pop, and is it going to pop in a dramatic way?

TETT: Well, unfortunately, it's a bit like trying to predict an earthquake, in that you can look at the stats and say that historically speaking, all

the numbers suggest it should happen. We just don't know exactly when.

Another particular issue right now that makes it very difficult to predict what's going to happen, because a lot of the finance is now locked up, not

in public markets, where everyone can watch any kind of bubble popping in real time, but in private markets, private capital and private equity. And

those by definition, are very opaque.

And as a result, companies have an ability to keep going a lot longer than they might in public markets without people knowing the scale of the

problems. So, it's not just whether we're going to have a bubble popping. It's also whether we're going to have a bubble that loses air through a

long, slow, painful, hiss, if you like, in the private capital sphere.

So certainly, the fact that people are talking about a bubble deflating, in some ways, is good because at least it means that more investors are

preparing for it, and it might create the possibility of a softish landing.

MACFARLANE: I just want to pivot Gillian from AI and tech to talk about this prolonged U.S. government shutdown that we are now in this historic

government shutdown in its second month. No end in sight of course.

We've been talking today about hundreds of flights canceled by the FAA cuts to 40 airports around the country. Short term and long term what do you

expect to be the financial impact of this prolonged shutdown beyond what we're already seeing?

TETT: Well, short term is obviously costly for some companies, like the airline companies and for some non-travel companies that get impacted by

this disruption. And of course, it's deeply painful for the millions of people who are not receiving pay right now.

However, if you look at the bigger picture. I was chatting with Jason Furman yesterday, who is one of the Former Council of Economic Advisers who

actually oversaw a government shutdown when he was working in the Democrat administration a few years ago.

And he pointed out that although you do have these short-term hits in terms of the long term, it tends to more or less be washed out because, of

course, when business restarts, a lot of the catch-up economic activity happens. However, perhaps the biggest problem for the U.S. right now is

about the loss of credibility in its governance systems.

And when you come to things like bond market betting on whether the U.S. can pay off its debt in the future, seeing this kind of political drama

that is so self-destructive and so self-sabotaging will not help reassure anybody that America has the ability to get a proper, credible policy in

place to deal with its debt.

MACFARLANE: Yeah, much like the chaos we've seen, of course, in with the tariffs over the last sort of 9, 10, months or so. Gillian, always great to

have your analysis. We appreciate it. Thank you.

TETT: Thank you.

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MACFARLANE: It's a busy weekend in the English Premier League as Liverpool and Manchester City renew their rivalry.

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MACFARLANE: This weekend, Pope Leo the XIV will mark six months of leading the Roman Catholic Church. On Thursday, the Pontiff met with Palestinian

Authority, President Mahmoud Abbas at the Vatican. They discussed the urgent need to get more aid into Gaza and their shared view that a two-

state solution is the way to a permanent peace.

Well, human rights have been high on the Pope's agenda since his historic election in May, and as CNN Vatican Correspondent Christopher Lamb reports.

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CHRISTOPHER LAMB, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The first American Pope has been elected Cardinal Prevost. Six months ago, Cardinal

Robert Prevost made history when he was elected Pope and took the name Leo XIV. The idea of a Pope from the United States had previously been

unthinkable.

But the Chicago born Pontiff defied all the odds. His background won over the Cardinals, a low-key figure who spent years in Peru as a missionary and

more than a decade leading his religious order, the Augustinians elected too just months after President Trump won his historic non-consecutive

second term and with a Catholic Vice President.

Leo has spoken out on the plight of migrants, voicing concern about those detained in his home city of Chicago. Calling on Catholic Leaders in the

United States speak up.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Someone who says that I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United

States. I don't know if that's pro-life.

LAMB (voice-over): Like Pope Francis Leo also speaking out on protecting the environment, serving the poor and welcoming LGBTQ Catholics like

Francis also facing criticism for doing so. But Leo is a more reserved personality than his predecessor, and less of a disruptor.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let us pray.

LAMB (voice-over): He wants to be a unifier who avoids fueling polarization. He insists on dialog with those who disagree, including

healing divisions of the past. The first months of Leo have revealed his more formal papal style, along with his personality, he's a Pope who loves

sports, particularly the Chicago White Sox.

Even shouting back to a rival Chicago Cubs fan from his Popemobile. He is also able to connect with people by speaking different languages fluently.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are the light of the world.

LAMB (voice-over): And he's still in regular touch with his brothers, who have both visited him in Rome. It's still early days for Leo, age 70,

relatively young for a Pope. He's taking his time. Later this month, he'll embark on his first foreign visit to Turkey and Lebanon, to emphasize peace

in the Middle East.

Leo still has a full in tray in big appointments of church leaders to make, although his first months have been a time of acclimatization, the first

American Pope is getting into his stride.

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MACFARLANE: Now, scientists say ancient Roman road buildings was so groundbreaking, it's comparable to the industrial revolution. And now you

can virtually explore their intricate network of 100,000 kilometers, or 63,000 miles, of roadways stretching from Britain to Egypt and Syria.

Scientists made this visualization tool that shows roads as Romans would have used them more than 1000 years ago with charts on camels and with pack

mules. The project is a work in progress. The scientists plan to add maritime and river connections. Some Roman roads are so resilient they're

even in use today.

Liverpool got a big win over Real Madrid in the Champions League on Tuesday, and their prize a trip to Pep Guardiola and Manchester City on

Sunday, as the two get set to renew their rivalry once again. World Sports, Patrick Snell is joining me. So, a big week for the reds Patrick?

PATRICK SNELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: Hi Christina. Yeah, most certainly you know that slump Liverpool had they lost six out of seven grizzlies across all

competitions that now does appear to be over the Reds recently beating Aston Villa in the Premier League, then a very impressive 1-0 home win

against Real Madrid in the Champions League.

It really could and should have been a few more goals as well, and even more emphatic win. But Arne Slots been talking up this one. It is now the

most storied fixture, I think, in English football back in the day, it was always Arsenal Man United, wasn't it during the Alex Ferguson Arsenvenger

days.

But this is the one we all want to catch a glimpse of on Arne Slots even comparing it to El Classico, the high-profile Spanish fixture between

Barcelona and Real Madrid. We're looking ahead to it all on "World Sport" in just a short while. Chrissy, back to you. By the way, Pat's pick Pat's

prediction. I'm sitting on the face.

MACFARLANE: Please.

SNELL: I'm going for 1-1.

MACFARLANE: And that is a Liverpool fan as well, Patrick. We look forward to seeing that after the break. Thanks so much. Stay with us. We'll be

back.

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