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Andy Burnham Becomes New U.K. Prime minister Replacing Keir Starmer; Oil Briefly Tops $90.00 Barrel For First Time Since Mid-June; Marco Rubio Says U.S. Remains Open To Diplomacy With Iran; Palestinians Seek To Keep Control Of Ancient Ruins At Sebastia; Tate Brothers Due In United States Court As United Kingdom Seeks Extradition On Sex Crimes Charges; Spain Win Second Men's Title With Victory Over Argentina. Aired 10-11a ET
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ANNOUNCER: Live from CNN Abu Dhabi, this is CONNECT THE WORLD.
ELENI GIOKOS, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome to the second hour of the show. I'm Eleni Giokos live in Abu Dhabi.
Now vowing to deliver the biggest changes in decades, we begin in London, where the new British Prime Minister is wasting no time in setting out his
agenda. Andy Burnham was formally appointed as the head of the British government by King Charles in the past few hours. He becomes the seventh
Prime Minister in just over a decade, succeeding Kier Starmer. Starmer received rapturous applause as he delivered his final speech at Downing
Street as Prime Minister. Burnham is promising to make politics, "Work better as he gets to work at Number 10."
On Tuesday, he says he will lay out measures to tackle the cost of living. Burnham says he wants to be a circuit breaker to bring about meaningful
change. Take a listen.
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ANDY BURNHAM, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: I will give this my all, and I ask you all to pull with me. Let's build a new national sense of unity, of
common purpose, and positivity. Let us make this the moment when Britain starts to believe again, the moment we bring back hope.
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GIOKOS: All right, Anna Stewart is at Downing Street with more. You've been there all day, in fact, Anna, and I have to say, you know, listening to the
promises that have been set out, all of those can only really come to fruition if he has the right people around him. What do we know about the
new cabinet going in?
ANNA STEWART, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That is, I was going to say job number one, but job number one is actually a handwriting and signing letters
regarding nuclear submarines, I believe.
But job number two or three is certainly picking out that cabinet. Now we don't know very much. There's been plenty speculation, much speculated over
the weekend in terms of who we will pick.
The top job, of course, is chancellor. That may go to the former Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood, Ed Miliband, someone else that people talk about
a lot. He was Energy Secretary. Perhaps he will go into foreign or home. Those are the sort of three top roles that we are looking for here.
Now, why these people are being mentioned, perhaps, is because Andy Burnham is going to have to really reunite the party. He speaks about how he wants
to do away with factional politics. He doesn't want divisions. He wants to unite the party, but that may require bringing people in from the left and
right side of the party. Shabana Mahmood, for instance, is quite far on the right. Ed Miliband's more on the left. This is why they may be key people
to have in his cabinet. No announcements yet, but we do expect that to start sort of trickling through in the coming hours.
We also, of course, expect there to be calls for Andy Burnham with heads of state from other countries, perhaps U.S. President Donald Trump. That's to
come.
This is the seventh prime minister in just over 10 years, and Andy Burnham is very aware of that. One of the key messages he had is how he is aware of
the situation of politics, how people are fed up, and this is what he wants to change. Here's what he said:
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BURNHAM: It requires my generation of politicians to raise our game and rise to the new challenge. Britain needs to show the world that we can
regain our stability once again, and that is our challenge: to make politics work, to make it work better.
I know people at home are fed up with politics. I hear you, and I want to be honest with you. We have not been good enough, and we need to be better.
We will be.
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GIOKOS: All right. So, so interesting, Anna, is we have not been good enough, and we need to make it better, and I think this sort of brings the
question, what is Keir Starmer's legacy? He held his accomplishments in his final speech at the same basically spot as Andy Burnham.
STEWART: Yes, it's a hard one, really. I mean, he did fulfill some of the pledges set out in the labor manifesto of 2024, you can look at some
increased appointment times on the NHS, for instance.
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You will see the flag of Ukraine flying high over Downing Street, and that is one of the sort of legacies I think Keir Starmer wants to be remembered
for.
He said today how much this has meant to him, and here's what he said actually in his departure speech before he left. It wasn't a very emotional
one. It was, as ever, with his stomach very well thought through, ever so slightly robotic, perhaps. Take a listen.
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KEIR STARMER, FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Since then, it has been the privilege of my life to serve you and this great country as Prime Minister,
and I am confident that Britain is now stronger and fairer than it was two years ago.
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STEWART: And a big difference, I guess, between Keir Starmer and Andy Burnham. Just the small things you'll notice, of course, Keir Starmer
standing behind a lectern, which is, you know, the tradition of prime ministers. No lectern for Andy Burnham. He just had a microphone stand. No
barrier, I suppose, between him and the people. No notes, no water queue. He adlibbed the whole thing.
And that's the real difference, I think, we'll see at least until we get a bit more policy or a cabinet involved. It's just a different type of
politics. This is a king of the north, as he's called from his time as mayor of Manchester.
GIOKOS: Yes. All right. So, listen, Anna, we all -- I think everyone around the world has a vested interest in Larry the cat. He's been a constant at
Downing Street. He's seen many changes right at the top. I know that Andy Burnham apparently is a dog person. So, how is it going to work? I mean,
Larry was there first, surely.
STEWART: Larry is everyone's favorite furry companion. Certainly, my favorite companion on Downing Street, and has been here for many years.
He's seen -- this will be the seventh prime minister for Larry, in fact, and he has managed to survive, you know, cat fights. There was a cat called
Palmerston (PH) in the Foreign Office once. There have been other dogs. Boris Johnson had a dog called Dilyn, and allegedly Andy Burnham has a
rescue dog called Axel.
So, I actually put this to our friend Larry in a CNN exclusive just moments ago.
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STEWART: Seventh Prime Minister in just over 10 years. What do you think?
Not a huge amount, and there may have been a little bit of bribery for this interview, but I hope you agree that this is probably the biggest opinion
you'll ever get in Downing Street.
Larry, what do you think? Do you like Prime Minister Andy Burnham?
Andy Burnham allegedly has a dog called Axel. How will you be behaving with Axel? Not a big fan of the new prime minister's dog.
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GIOKOS: Walking away.
STEWART: Now, I haven't watched this back, but I seem to remember Larry just kind of gave me the cold shoulder when asked about Axel. So, I think
there you go. I think he's not best pleased, but perhaps they will unite in this Andy Burnham government.
GIOKOS: I mean, he just walked away. Yes, he just walked away. You know, he's like, oh, I've seen this before.
All right, Anna Stewart, thank you for covering all the angles that matter, so we understand exactly what's going on there. Much appreciated as always.
Right, as the new prime minister takes the reins in the U.K., he is stepping into office at a time of growing global uncertainty, the
escalating U.S.-Iran conflict is pushing energy markets higher, with oil prices briefly topping $90.00 a barrel after a tanker was struck near the
Strait of Hormuz.
CNN Business and Economics reporter Anna Cooban joins us now live from London. I mean, seeing that $90.00 a barrel, and also, frankly, Anna,
hearing from so many countries really concerned about drawing down their reserves and seeing consistently striking on commercial vessels in the
Strait of Hormuz tanker traffic, and traffic generally is coming under pressure. What are you reading into this?
ANNA COOBAN, CNN BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC REPORTER: Well, I think there's just real exhaustion, Eleni. Yes, we've topped $90.00 a barrel today. Oil prices
have fallen a bit lower since then.
But remember, this is the highest level we've seen in over a month. Rewind a month, and we were really standing in front of what looked like a genuine
attempt at negotiating peace. We saw oil prices tumbling. There was relief in the markets, and now, after nine consecutive nights of strikes, we're
back where we were, frankly, months ago in terms of the prognosis of how this this may go and the worries that investors have.
Now, the sort of mechanism behind all of this is a Strait of Hormuz, this waterway through which 20 percent of the world's oil and liquefied natural
gas went every day before the war. Now, it is still just a trickle of ships getting through. Iran has attacked ships going through corridors that it
deems to be unauthorized. It is making its stand and saying that you know we still have real control over this strait, and also there are you know
alternative routes that some ships have been taking, but more towards the Omani side. Of things, so there's just a trickle of ships getting out, and
the U.S. has reimposed a blockade of ships going to and from Iranian ports.
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And so, this, everything I'm saying right now, I could have been saying a month ago, two months ago, and so this is the frustration among investors,
Eleni, is that we are back somewhere where we thought we had truly moved past from.
GIOKOS: All right, Anna Cooban. Thank you so much. Good to see you today.
Now, the conflict between the U.S. and Iran is escalating across the Middle East. Kuwait says its air defenses responded to drone threats on Sunday as
attacks spread across the Gulf. President Trump says Iran was hit very hard after a ninth consecutive night of U.S. strikes. All this comes after three
U.S. service members were killed over the weekend in Iranian attacks.
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DONALD TRUMP, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, we feel very badly, but you know those great people, those great patriots, are out there
fighting that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Iran has been very, very badly damaged. They've lost everything almost militarily.
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GIOKOS: All right. Despite the intensifying fighting, both Washington and Tehran say they may remain open to diplomacy.
CNN's Stephen Collinson joins us now from Washington. Stephen, really good to see you. I mean, what a crazy nine days it's been. I mean, the
escalation ladder has been climbing and climbing. I wonder how the deaths of these U.S. service members is going to play with the American public as
we see. Even though they're talking about perhaps diplomacy still being very much alive, you know, there's major concerns that this could, you
know, become a wider war.
STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: Eleni, this was already a deeply unpopular war in the United States, and I think the fact that
American service members have been dying over the weekend is going to sharpen questions about what exactly the president's endgame is here, and
how does he get towards it?
I've already seen some messaging from various political groups this morning, which is saying that as the president shared a luxury box at the
FIFA World Cup final with Gianni Infantino, Americans were dying in the Middle East. This is something I think you will probably see start to
filter in democratic arguments as we get closer to the midterm elections if this war continues.
Right now we are not anywhere near the level of casualties on the U.S. side that were caused in the Afghan and Iraq wars earlier in the century, and
that did have a great political impact.
And of course, there are often in these conflicts many more civilians on the other side who are killed. We should remember that.
So, while tragic, the troop deaths are still fairly low, but the memory of Iraq and Afghanistan is very deep in the DNA of U.S. politics, it was one
reason why the president first won office in 2016 when he took the White House.
So, I think it would not take too much for all of that to be revived and to make the war even less popular among Americans and more of a millstone for
Republican candidates in the midterm elections in November.
GIOKOS: All right, we've got Nic Robertson as well joining us. Nic, really good to see you.
You know, the last few days in the region have been absolutely, you know, scary for many people here across the region, give us an idea on the
diplomacy front and whether there is a potential off-ramp to end this.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: It's not clear where that off-ramp is. It's not clear that either side wants to take it. They
both do say the United States and Iran do say that they're open to diplomacy. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has said that today. You've had
the foreign ministry spokesman in Tehran saying that again.
But also saying that they're not -- that Iran is not -- is not supporting the MOU, is not -- is not working to sort of further its diplomatic
efforts. It is parked on one side.
Today, you have the Iranian Interior Minister on his way to Pakistan to meet his counterpart there, who's been really at the forefront of the
mediation efforts between the United States and Iran. So, does that represent, you know, a chance here for some diplomacy to get a little bit
of traction.
Look, the key thing at the moment is that Iran wants to prove, and it did last night by hitting a tanker or appearing to hit a tanker close to Oman,
that it controls the Strait of Hormuz. And the United States seems determined militarily to send a message that it can't, and the military
path would just have to continue to erode Iran's ability to hit the shipping and damage it going through the Strait of Hormuz. That's where
it's at.
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But diplomatically, this does feel like one of those moments where many in the Gulf states, the diplomats there, they don't say it publicly, but
they're concerned about what is the end goal here of the United States. How is it going to achieve it? Can it achieve it?
And if there isn't a quick resolution, therefore, diplomacy has to take over. But that said, it's not -- you know, the diplomatic off-ramp is out
there somewhere. Of course, it is, but it doesn't seem to be within sight of where we are -- where we stand today.
GIOKOS: Yes, and we saw how quickly the MOU basically was unraveled. Stephen, I want you to listen to what U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio
had to say last night.
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MARCO RUBIO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: I think we're always open to diplomacy. It has to be real. It has to be a deal that they're willing to
live by.
Look, Iran a week ago was supposed to put out a statement saying that the Straits of Hormuz would be open, that they would no longer attack shipping,
and instead of doing that, they attacked three ships. I think that was last Friday or Saturday, so I mean their behavior has to change in order for
ours to change.
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GIOKOS: Yes, I mean that's super interesting because again, the Strait of Hormuz is being mentioned. Open up the Straits. Iran has a different
perspective, Stephen, about what happens in the Strait. Does President Trump sound like someone who actually wants to resume diplomatic talks?
Does he act like it?
COLLINSON: Well, nine days of attacks on Iranian targets seem to indicate that he's not willing to go down that path.
Right now, one interpretation of it is that he's trying to do so much damage that Iran has no choice to come back to the negotiating table. That
seems unlikely, at least in the short term, and because of the history of the conflict, it seems like there are factions in Iran that almost welcome
this renewal of the war, and they are never intending to give up that leverage they have in the Strait of Hormuz.
What the administration has not done is explain to any of us why this round of attacks is likely to make it more likely that Iran would capitulate than
the weeks of more intense attacks that it conducted with the Israelis earlier in the war. Does there come a point when they can do so much damage
along the Iranian side of the Strait, that that handicaps Iran's ability to mount these strikes. I think there's a lot of doubt about that in the U.S.
and especially in Congress right now, at a time when the administration is going to Congress to try and get more money for the war, because as we
know, all it takes is a few missiles or a few drones to shut down the Strait again entirely.
So, how we get from this point to a point where diplomacy might be a possibility without Trump stepping back as he did in the past, and as Iran
may be assuming he will do in the future, is a real question. And until then, I think the diplomatic and the economic costs will continue to pile
up.
GIOKOS: Yes, they absolutely are. Nic, we saw strikes on Kuwait, desalination as well as the power plants, Bahrain, Jordan. First time in
Syria, strikes there as well as Iraq. Regional countries here targeted in the latest round of Iranian retaliation, just explain to us why these
countries in specific.
ROBERTSON: Kuwait, because it's close. Bahrain, because it's close. Both have strong ties. The Bahrain has the naval base for the U.S. Fifth Fleet.
Kuwait has multiple air bases that the United States has been using to help prosecute the war against Iran.
So, Iran has a lot of short-range ballistic missiles because Bahrain and Kuwait are close to Iran. The missiles can get there quickly. They're
harder to stop. Iran can afford to send a lot of these missiles. If it's looking at a long-range war that could last, you know, outwards of months,
a month or more, here they do need to think about what weapon systems they're using.
These are also seen as sort of the weaker of the -- of the Gulf states, if you will. We're aware that over the recent months, countries like Qatar,
the UAE, Saudi have all had bilateral conversations with the Iranians. We don't know what has been worked out behind the scenes there. We know that
they've been attacked, but less so than Bahrain and Kuwait.
So, Iran's able to inflict damage there, particularly as you mentioned, Kuwait hitting the desalination plant. The minister for electricity and
water went out to that plant over the weekend. Also, the hitting of the oil -- the oil facility there in Kuwait, a strategic hit for Iran, if you will.
It was significant damage to vehicle equipment. That's what the Kuwaiters said.
But look, Jordan, that has really come front and center for Iran, and we don't know the disposition of U.S. military hardware in the region, but
Iran says, you know, over the last week or so, they've had multiple strikes at different U.S. aircraft, whether it's helicopters, whether it's --
whether it's location storing of other aircraft. We know that there have been the refuel tankers based there in the past. They said over the weekend
that they hit a C-17 and an Orion P-8 surveillance aircraft. It's not clear that that is true or just a claim.
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But it does seem that Jordan is coming in the crossfire here more or the crosshairs more because they have a lot of U.S. military assets there that
are being used in the war, and Iran has figured out either a better system of targeting them, or perhaps the defenses in Jordan are just not able to
withstand the amount of firepower that's coming from Iran at the moment.
So, that's really put a lot of focus there, and Iran would like nothing better its stated aim chase the United States from the region.
You know, you saw them attacking Aqaba Airport over the weekend. There were -- there were security alerts about that over the weekend. This is a place
which is bustling with tourists at this time of year. It undermines the local economy. It puts pressure on the Jordanian government, and it makes
people there worried about what's next for them, and Iran knows that, and it calculates that.
GIOKOS: Yes, Stephen. I mean, Nic makes a really good point. You know, initially this war is going to last four to six weeks, and I think every
expert I spoke to say said, and I'm sure you've had sort of the same feedback. It's that this has got to end before the midterm elections. Can
it? Will it? Is that sort of a big priority for President Trump?
COLLINSON: I think that Trump would clearly like to end it before the midterm elections in November. The assumption is in Washington that he
really wants to get out of this war still.
But at the same time, if he walks away and Iran is still controlling the Strait of Hormuz, that is a massive strategic defeat for the United States,
and for Trump personally. It will be a presidency again, foundering in the waters of the Persian Gulf, if you like, that we've seen previously in the
United States, and that could make things very difficult for him going forward in terms of his prestige personally and American power.
So, this is sharpening into a massive dilemma for Trump, and it's not just November I think we should talk about, advance voting in U.S. elections in
some states gets going as early as late September through October, generally the opinions ahead of U.S. elections crystallize in the late
summer period.
If we're going to another month of $4.00 gasoline in the United States, which doesn't sound an awful lot elsewhere in the world, but is punitive
for American drivers, especially considering a lot of the distances people have to commute to work, etcetera. That could be a real political point.
And I think it's clear that Iran is just as aware of the political pressures on Trump as everyone in Washington is.
But again, it comes back to that fundamental question: How does he get out of this? How does he get to an end game? How do they get to a point that
Nic was saying, where the diplomatic off-ramp is even coming into view? That is the stalemate we're in.
And as much as President Trump might like a lot of things to happen, and a lot of his messaging almost seems to be wish-casting throughout this war,
the facts on the ground are those that unusually he can't reinvent and create a narrative to support his position.
GIOKOS: All right, very quickly, Nic. Washington has repeatedly criticized European allies, including the U.K., for failing to do enough.
Now we've got a new prime minister, Andy Burnham, give me a sense of what you believe needs to happen between the U.K. and the U.S. in terms of
mending this, and whether you believe the E.U. is going to change its stance on intervening in the U.S.-Iran war.
ROBERTSON: Look, I think very briefly, big picture, Europe really not in a good place in its relationship with the United States at the moment. Not
trusting Trump. That relationship is getting worse. They're sort of just getting on with getting on with the relationship, and they're not ready to
commit -- to commit military to supporting whatever President Trump is doing in in the Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz until the war is over.
Andy Burnham, different story. He now has his whole prime ministership ahead of him. He has seen previous prime ministers like Tony Blair squander
their domestic political capital by aligning themselves with, at that time, President Bush with U.S. Presidents in a war that they didn't have to get
into. That was the British perception at the time, back in 2002, 2003, that Tony Blair lost political capital.
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Burnham is unlikely to want to engage in an overseas adventure that he already sees Trump as a disruptor and somebody who creates division rather
than unity.
Now, that said, Burnham over the weekend got praise from Trump because he's opened up North Sea oil exploration. That was something Trump wanted, but
Burnham will know that just as much as Trump can heap praise on someone, criticism can come the following day.
So, I think Burnham will be wary about committing, you know, the British military, or frankly, getting heavily involved in the diplomacy when the
future is very unclear at the moment, and Trump is seen not as a stable, reliable partner in the way that previous presidents have been.
GIOKOS: All right, Nic Robertson, Stephen Collinson, good to have you with me. Thank you so much.
And coming up, we're going to take you to an archeological site in the West Bank, where Palestinian efforts to preserve it have been interrupted,
leaving its future uncertain. The story coming up.
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GIOKOS: Palestinians are seeking to preserve an archeological site in the West Bank that dates back thousands of years. They say their efforts have
been interrupted by Israel, while the Israeli government accuses Palestinians of not protecting the site from looters. CNN's Jeremy Diamond
takes us to Sebastia.
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JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT (voice over): On this West Bank hilltop, a battle over the past will shape the future, and archeology is
the weapon of choice.
DIAMOND: So, this is the line right here.
ZAID AZHARI, SEBASTIA HISTORIAN: Yes, exactly. The first line of these columns, it's in area C. This is where area C started.
DIAMOND: And so, what does that mean for Palestinians in this area?
AZHARI: It means that we are losing our heart by losing this area and not having access to our agricultural fields and our archeological sites.
DIAMOND (voice over): Sebastia is an archeological treasure, home to thousands of years of Roman, Byzantine, and Ottoman history. It is now
enmeshed in the fabric and economy of the Palestinian town of the same name, but risks being cut off from it.
AZHARI: If we look to the examples we had, it already maybe they will build a wall. Who knows?
DIAMOND (voice over): It is also home to ruins from the ancient kingdom of Israel.
DIAMOND: Archeologists say these ruins date back to the 9th century B.C., part of the capital city of the ancient kingdom of Israel. And now the
current Israeli government wants to use these ruins as a justification for seizing hundreds of acres of land on an archeological site that includes
ruins from many other periods in history.
DIAMOND (voice over): The goal, an Israeli tourist site with a focus on its Jewish heritage.
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The man behind that project is far-right Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu, who has, among other things, said he would be open to nuking Gaza. He says
Palestinians have failed to preserve the site and protect it from looters.
DIAMOND: In order to protect the site, why is it necessary to expropriate privately held Palestinian lands?
AMICHAI ELIYAHU, ISRAELI HERITAGE MINISTER (text): The area is Israeli territory. It belongs to the Jewish people. It is not occupied. I am not
willing to have the story of the Jewish people. I am not willing to have the story of the Jewish people destroyed, sabotaged, robbed, dismantled, or
erased.
DIAMOND (voice over): But Palestinians say it's Israel standing in the way of efforts to rehabilitate these ruins.
ZAID AZHARI, SEBASTIA HISTORIAN: We tried to do a rehabilitation -- urgent and emergency rehabilitation. During the work, settlers, soldiers came,
they stop all the labors.
ALON ARAD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, EMEK SHAVEH: So, they keep on repeating this argument that the Palestinians are destroying archeological remains, but
have not shown any data to support it.
DIAMOND (voice over): Alon Arad leads a group of Israeli archeologists fighting against what they say are the real intentions of this government
and Eliyahu.
ARAD: He doesn't care about antiques. He wants to annex. It's not about the site. It's the ability to use the site as a weapon, as an instrument to
take more land. To shrink the Palestinian space.
DIAMOND (voice over): The Palestinian Authority, supported by archeologists like Arad, has filed an emergency petition to designate
Sebastia as a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
ELIYAHU (text): UNESCO can say whatever it wants. If it tries to go against the truth and invent narratives here, it will not succeed.
DIAMOND: It seems like ultimately, you are trying to strengthen Israel's position on the ground in that territory.
ELIYAHU (text): The land is irrevocable. The facts are irrevocable. What are you suggesting, that was let them erases our heritage. The facts are
that this is the land of our fathers and mothers.
DIAMOND (voice over): Palestinians are also deeply rooted in this land, like the olive trees Sebastia's families have cultivated amid the ruins for
generations.
AZHARI: This is everything for us. I cannot imagine Sebastia without archeological site. It's like your children; you cannot like leave one of
them. This is the heart of people of Sebastia and Sebastia in the same time.
DIAMOND (voice over): Jeremy Diamond, CNN, Sebastia, the West Bank.
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GIOKOS: Welcome back. CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Eleni Giokos, here are your headlines.
The handover of power in Britain and a seismic shift in politics for the U.K. Andy Burnham is Britain's new prime minister, and he went to see King
Charles today at Buckingham Palace, where he was asked to form a government.
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Mr. Burnham is laser focused on solving the U.K.'s cost of living crisis, and says he will set out his measures on Tuesday.
The U.S. military says three American service members were killed in the Middle East in recent days. One of them died in northern Iraq during the
controlled detonation of a downed Iranian drone. Two others were killed in Iranian strikes in Jordan, as the conflict continues to escalate across the
region.
Parts of the U.S. Gulf coast are under tropical storm watch. A tropical depression in the gulf is expected to strengthen into a tropical storm
named Bertha. Forecasters say it will likely make landfall midweek, bringing heavy rain, strong winds, and potential flooding to the region.
In the coming hours, social media influencers Andrew and Tristan Tate are due in a Miami court as they battle a U.K. request to extradite them for a
number of alleged sexual offenses. British authorities want the brothers returned to face sexual offense charges, including rape and sex
trafficking. They deny any wrongdoing.
I spoke with CNN's Carolina Peguero last hour about this developing story in Miami.
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CAROLINA PEGUERO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, lots to unpack, Eleni. This morning, we just spoke to the lawyer who gave us an update of their
clients. The Tate brothers were arrested during this weekend as they were heading to a boxing event here in Miami, and now, there is reactions from
everyone, including them. They are being accused by the U.K. for sexual abuse of seven victims during the years of 2010 and 2017 in England and in
London.
Now, the U.K. officials have been saying they have been following this extensive and complex investigation, and the U.S. Department of Justice
here is saying that the Tate brothers are in current extradition proceedings. They are facing -- at least, Andrew Tate is facing 42 charges,
while his brother. Tristan Tate is facing 17, including rape, sexual assault, and human trafficking.
We spoke to their lawyer, Joseph McBride, and this is what he says as far as this being a political hunt and a political kidnapping, and that he's
going to do everything possible to have them be free.
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JOSEPH D. MCBRIDE, ATTORNEY FOR ANDREW AND TRISTAN TATE: To have their day in court, if we win that case, and we feel great, we feel very positive
that we will. If we win that case, we are going to destroy every allegation that was made against them. And if that happens, then, everybody who's
called them traffickers or rapists, or whatever it is, all the allegations will blow up, the narrative will collapse. United Kingdom knows that.
So, it's pulling out all the stops to politically kidnap them, to lock them up in a cell somewhere in the United Kingdom, so, they can't have their day
in court here.
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PEGUERO: And according to their lawyer there, he is saying that they expect several hearings before they get extradited. While they are expected to see
a judge today, 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time here in the U.S., and we are going to head in that courtroom as well to see what is going to happen later today.
Eleni?
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GIOKOS: I want to bring in Jackson Katz in Boston. He is the co-founder of the Mentors in Violence Prevention Program. So, really good to have you
with us.
I mean, we're looking now at -- and you have described, frankly, Andrew Tate, as someone that helped normalize misogyny, frankly, for all to see.
Given the reaction of his and his brother's arrest, do you think that the influence is somewhat subsiding?
JACKSON KATZ, CO-FOUNDER, MENTORS IN VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAM: Well, I don't think it's subsiding. I mean, I think -- I think, I mean I'm hopeful
that there might be justice at the end of this -- at this particular process, because this has been a long time.
We have known Andrew Tate's sort of public career for now well over a decade, and he is -- he is kind of pushed the Overton window to the point
where, you know, to the point where it's -- the expressions of overt misogyny among so many men, young men, and boys all over the world, has
been -- has been like so totally normalized, and he is not really been held legally accountable. I know he is been, you know, held by the Romanian
authorities for quite a period of time, but he is never really fully faced justice in a court of law, and I think some of us are hopeful that they
might be coming soon.
GIOKOS: Yes, I mean, what's really fascinating is here. If the -- even if the brothers do face, you know, justice of some sorts, they have quite an
interesting following -- a significant following. They have always claimed that they have been victimized because of their beliefs. How do you think
this is going to sort of influence the manosphere conversation, so to speak?
KATZ: Well, let me just say I think it's B.S. that he -- that he -- that the Tate brothers claim that they are being victimized because of their
politics. I think that's just an obviously self-interested argument, and I don't buy it for a second.
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I mean, and let me say also, Eleni -- I mean, he claims constantly -- Andrew Tate, that he cares about young men, he cares about boys and young
men, and he wants them to be better, and he wants them to live good lives, and a part of the reason why he's popular with boys and young men, many of
whom will say that they don't agree with the misogyny, but they will say that they agree with all the other things that Andrew Tate says and does.
Number one, you can't separate the two, because a huge part of the way that he made a fortune and made a global fame was by verbally assaulting women
on a daily basis and normalizing misogyny.
But also, I don't even buy for one moment the argument that what he is doing is helping boys and young men in any way. Number one, he is
destroying the opportunity for them to have meaningful relationships with girls and women, because he continually ridicules, mocks, and demeans, and
degrades women and girls.
And for heterosexual boys and young men and men who want relationships with girls and women, he is just completely poisoned the sort of, you know,
interpersonal relational expect -- you know, lives that these boys, as many of them aspire to.
But in addition, I don't -- I don't buy the argument that he is actually advocating for boys and men. He is -- he claims to be sort of leading them
out of the matrix. They are being controlled by these forces that they don't understand that want to manipulate them, and he claims that the
reason why he is been persecuted is because he has this following of young men who are -- therefore, he he's a threat to the established power that he
calls the Matrix.
But what, in fact, he is doing is creating, like, foot soldiers for fascism for, you know, young men who are going willingly down a road of total
subservience to, you know, to oligarchy. It's just crazy making. But the misogyny is why he is on trial, if you will, and why he is being charged.
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GIOKOS: Though, I have to say --
KATZ: His misogyny and his abuse towards girls and women.
GIOKOS: Exactly. I mean, and that's the thing. It's, you know, when I look at some of the rhetoric, and it's absolutely scary to hear some of the
things that they say. The misogyny, and frankly, sort of, you know, the way they view women, and then, you see this sort of manifest in actual violence
against women.
And I wonder why he has such a -- they have got this following of young men going, you know, this is the way for us to be masculine. Is it a cultural
issue? What is the issue? As, I know, you have been doing a lot of research on this.
What have you discovered in terms of finding out why there is this following?
KATZ: Well, I think a lot of boys and young men, as well as adult men, are very confused all over the world about, you know, what it means to be a
man, if you will. And these men who -- these boys and young men who live online, you know, they are -- they are -- so much of their, you know, the
download that they take from the Internet, from the manosphere is advice about what it means to be a man in the modern era.
And I think, you know, feminism, modern feminism has created enormous changes in women and girls' lives all over the world, in, you know,
racially and ethnically diverse settings, and global north, global south. But those changes in women and girls' lives have also occasioned massive
changes in boys and men's lives, and if you combine that with technology and with these macroeconomic forces, and in the economy, and, you know, the
way that, you know, whether it's the A.I. revolution or other forces that that are at work, there is lots of disruption and lots of uncertainty as a
result of that disruption.
And what Andrew Tate offers is a very concrete and specific way to achieve your goals, and of course, women and girls are the primary victims of that
worldview, which is, he is saying to boys and men, the way to achieve success as a man is to take back control from girls and women. That our
society has become feminized because women have too much power, and we need to take that power back.
And by the way, that's mirrored in, you know right wing populism and Trumpism, and you know -- you know, Donald Trump Jr. is a big supporter of
Andrew Tate, and there is -- there is a number of right-wing figures within the Trump administration who have been openly supportive of Andrew Tate.
And Tucker Carlson platformed him on his show. So, in other words, he is not -- he is not just some marginal figure who everybody disdains. He is --
he is been embraced by certain political forces that are themselves at work to prevent women's success, and that he -- yes, he is -- he is an extreme
version of this.
But he is -- in the current moment that we live in, I'm sad to say, he is more normal or more normative or more mainstream than a lot of people would
like to think.
GIOKOS: All right. Jackson Katz, thank you so much. Really good to have you with us today.
Well, "BREAKING NEWS" out. A law enforcement source says a person is in custody after throwing a makeshift incendiary device at New York's FBI
headquarters. Based on a preliminary assessment by investigators, the device is believed to consist of fireworks and a flammable liquid. That is
according to a separate law enforcement source. Police say no injuries have been reported.
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Right. We are following this developing story for you. In the meantime, we are going to a short break. We'll be back right after this. Stick with CNN.
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GIOKOS: World Cup champion Spain have arrived back to a hero's welcome. There will be a parade for the players in Central Madrid later today to
celebrate their 1-0 against Argentina in the final Sunday, that gave Spain their second World Cup title in 16 years after the first.
A goal from Ferran Torres in extra time broke the deadlock against reigning champion, Argentina, who had been reduced to 10 men. Argentina's manager
left the news conference in tears after talking about his future.
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LIONEL SCALONI, MANAGER, ARGENTINA (through translator): My deepest thanks to everyone, to all the fans, and all the people who carried us today.
Whatever little strength we had left, they gave us that strength and pushed us to keep fighting until the very end, with the match still open, but it
wasn't to be.
They were deserved winners. That's the reality.
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GIOKOS: While Spain came into the tournament as favorites, having been crowned European champions two years ago, Jorge Lopez-Torrecilla is a
football analyst and commentator, as well as a passionate Spain fan. He joins me now live from Madrid.
Jorge, have you slept? I'm wondering. Did you get any sleep?
JORGE LOPEZ-TORRECILLA, SPANISH FOOTBALL JOURNALIST: Yes. Not as much as I would like, but you know, a day today, if I have to wait another 16 years,
I would have slept even less. So, yes.
GIOKOS: OK. Well, I mean, what a game. So, you know, what is your sense? I mean, Spain were the favorites. Argentina were doing really well. You know,
it was just -- it was just such a tight call. And then, you have this -- the one goal, everyone was waiting with bated breath to see who would --
who would actually get the ball in the goalpost. But give me a sense of your thoughts on the actual game.
LOPEZ-TORRECILLA: Yes. Well, it is -- it is actually difficult to put into words. Such an emotional game, to be honest.
We had to wait 16 years just to be able to see Spain compete in another World Cup final. And although I think that every football fan can agree
that Spain showed the best football throughout the tournament, you know, a final is a final. And you were facing Argentina, and you -- and you would -
- and you were facing Lionel Messi, which is arguably the greatest player of all time.
So, I think, there was a sense of nervousness, but also a sense of confidence. You know, we had to rely and to trust this team. And they
actually, we are not as nervous as every -- as everyone else was. They showed composure. They didn't bait into any of the old tricks that
Argentina played.
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I think that the big difference was that Spain was patient with the ball. They knew that they would have a chance. They had a couple of them, and
this is football, like, Ferran was the one that scored the goal. The player that did not score on the opening game against Cape Verde.
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GIOKOS: Yes.
LOPEZ-TORRECILLA: And the player that has been struggling mentally with a lot of hate on social media. He was finally the one that brought the second
star to Spain's crest.
GIOKOS: Yes. Yes, that's very true. So, it's a sort of huge redemption there.
What is quite interesting is that -- what it means generationally for players like Lamine Yamal, Nico Williams, as well as Rodri, you know,
securing this and being part of the winning team?
LOPEZ-TORRECILLA: Yes. So, there was, of course, a lot of comparison between this team and the 2010 team. The one -- the team that had Iniesta,
Xavi, Ramos. And I think, this is a generational win for Spain. I don't want to sound arrogant or any stuff like that, but we won the Euros two
years ago. And now, they have won the World Cup.
So, I think, everyone is feeling like we've -- we are entering a new golden era for Spanish football. Not only because of the talent that we know they
have, but also because they are super young. We saw that Pau Cubarsi won the best young player of the tournament. Lamine Yamal, who was Spain's
biggest star and was not 100 percent fit, is also just 19.
So, there is this new generation of Spanish football players that are really talented, and they are under very -- and they are under the umbrella
that the Spanish Federation has provided the team.
So, it doesn't matter if it's the under 21, the under 19, the under 17 team. Every Spanish team plays the same way. And I think that's easier for
the players, and that makes the transition way smoother when you've got this this generation of talents coming through the main -- the national
team.
GIOKOS: All right. Jorge, very quickly, are you joining the parade?
LOPEZ-TORRECILLA: Yes, I am. I'm -- I will hopefully get a good spot to try to catch on everything and to -- and to just dance and party and celebrate.
Yes, because the whole city is going to be stopping.
And I have a feeling it's not going to be yesterday.
GIOKOS: All right. Cool. So, it sounds like your weekend is continuing. Jorge, great to have you with us. Thank you so much.
LOPEZ-TORRECILLA: That's it.
GIOKOS: We are going to a very short break. Stick with CNN.
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GIOKOS: From producing shoes to artificial intelligence, hard pivot for Allbirds. They are taking the leap into the tech world. The footwear
company is rebranding into Smartbird and shifting its focus to artificial intelligence.
CNN tech reporter Clare Duffy has more.
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CLARE DUFFY, CNN TECH REPORTER: The company that made these sneakers is dropping Allbirds for A.I.
News this spring that Allbirds was rebranding as Smartbird sent the company's shares soaring nearly 600 percent. But it also left some
wondering whether it was a joke or a gimmick.
New CEO Nadia Carlsten says she is very serious.
NADIA CARLSTEN, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, SMARTBIRD: There is a lot backing this up. It's the fact that we have a new company now, very much dedicated
to A.I. We have a board that is committed, and this is something that I have done before.
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So, I know that it's a market that exists and something that we can deliver.
DUFFY (voice over): Smartbird wants to provide computing power for companies to run A.I. systems, a business that is dominated by giants like
Amazon, Google, and Microsoft.
CARLSTEN: A.I. is so hot right now. This is in -- maybe, an unusual way to start an A.I. company, but it wouldn't be unusual for a company that wants
to provide value to choose to be an A.I.
DUFFY (voice over): It's not the first time a struggling legacy company has made a bold bet on a hyped-up new technology, and it doesn't always pan
out.
In 2018, film company Kodak announced it was going all in on blockchain and launching its own cryptocurrency.
DUFFY: While that news initially sent the company's stock up, the effort quickly fizzled.
DUFFY (voice over): Last year, Kodak warned investors it was on the verge of bankruptcy. But Smartbird's Carlsten says she is confident about the
opportunity in A.I.
CARLSTEN: As A.I. has shown more usefulness over the past year and even the past few months, more companies are using A.I. More companies have become
larger users of A.I.
DUFFY: As for whether she'll miss the shoes.
CARLSTEN: I actually have never owned an Allbirds shoe, people talk about Allbirds being the preferred shoe brand of tech bros, and of course, I am
in the space. But I'm one of the few women in the A.I. infrastructure business, so, I'm not a tech bro, and actually tend to prefer high heels --
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GIOKOS: Clare Duffy, reporting there.
Now, that's it for CONNECT THE WORLD. Stick with CNN. "ONE WORLD" is up next.
From me, Eleni Giokos, I'll see you later.
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