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[19:00:06] ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: OUTFRONT next, the breaking news. A new national poll just out showing Trump cutting Clinton's lead in half. Can he make a comeback?
Plus, Trump speaking to CNN tonight defensive over his businesses and about how much money he's given his own campaigns. We'll see that OUTFRONT.
And one wife's desperate plea to get her husband re-elected, get him out of the house and out of her hair. Let's go OUTFRONT.
Good evening, I'm Erin Burnett. OUTFRONT tonight, the breaking news. Trump momentum. A new national poll just out moments ago shows Donald Trump cutting Hillary Clinton's lead in half. And it comes as CNN speaks out tonight predicting a, quote, "tremendous victory."
Let's take a look at that new poll just out tonight. This is a FOX News poll showing Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump 44 to 41. Just over a week ago, Clinton was ahead by six points in the same poll. So cut in half. And also tonight, good news for Trump in a crucial battleground state. Now leading Hillary Clinton by two points in the must swing state of Florida.
Even though at some polls show the race tightening. He began his day off the campaign trail. Just 13 days until Election Day. Trump was out but not on the trail, with his children at the official opening of his latest luxury hotel in Washington, D.C.
Our Dana Bash -- Trump about spending time at a hotel at a business opening in Washington, which I don't know what Hillary Clinton leads him by 60 points, 80 points, I don't know. The point is, he was there. Not in a crucial swing state.
Here's what he said.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: For you to ask me that question is actually very insulting because Hillary Clinton does one stop and then she goes home and sleeps. And yet you will ask me that question. I think it is a very rude question to be honest with you.
(END VIDEO CLIP) BURNETT: Trump rallying supporters this afternoon in North Carolina addressing the criticism again. This time though, he turned it on Hillary Clinton.
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TRUMP: Hillary said, Donald Trump took time off the campaign. Can you believe it? Here is a woman goes home. And she goes to sleep all the time. Think of it. She's got no energy whatsoever. Honestly? She has less energy than Jeb Bush.
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BURNETT: And you are looking at live pictures. Donald Trump doing another rally, about to rally supporters again in a big rally. This one in Kingston, North Carolina which is why Jason Carroll is OUTFRONT tonight.
And Jason, obviously a big crowd there. What are you expecting from Trump?
JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we expect Donald Trump to say what we've heard before about some of those polls that you mentioned there. Any of those polls showing him behind telling his supporters not to put much stock in that. As for where we are now, this was an area Erin, that was hit hard by flooding due to Hurricane Matthew. So we expect him to address that here tonight.
Also expecting him possibly to talk about something that he mentioned a little earlier at another rally here in the state of North Carolina. We've heard him before trying to reach out to African-Americans. But at a rally earlier today we heard him mention something knew. Something that he's calling the new deal to African-Americans. Part of his urban renewable agenda. He says, it's based on three points, jobs, education and safety as well.
Again calling it the new deal, borrowing a phrase from history. Of course, when you think of the new deal, you think of Franklin Roosevelt, the president who put forth liberal policies back in the 1930s, so Donald Trump using that phrase to once again try to reach out to African-Americans. It is very clear at this point in the campaign that they still need to expand their base. This is one way of him trying to do it. So waiting to see if he mentions that here tonight.
BURNETT: Yes.
CARROLL: Also in terms of those polls here in North Carolina, one recent poll Erin showing Hillary Clinton up by just one point here in the state. But once again, Donald Trump expected to say not to put much stake in those polls, he is expected to tell supporters here that he'll win the state of North Carolina and the election -- Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Jason Carroll, thank you very much. And as we said. Telling CNN today that he's in for a tremendous victory.
Dana Bash spoke with Trump today one on one right after his hotel opening. Here is the conversation.
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DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: There are the people who say you are taking time out of swing states to go do this. You say?
TRUMP: I say the following. You have been covering me for the last -- long time. I did yesterday eight stops and three major speeches and I've been doing this for weeks straight. I left here -- I left there for an hour and a half. I'm going to North Carolina right now. Then I'm going to Florida. I'm going up to New Hampshire. For you to ask me that question is actually very insulting. Because Hillary Clinton does one stop and then she goes home and sleeps.
And yet you will ask me that question. I think it is a very rude question to be honest with you and what I want to do is, I want to back my children. My children work very hard, Ivanka in particular. And at the opening of the hotel, I want to back my children. Very important to me. So we had a ribbon cutting and I stopped in D.C. I want the American people to understand that this is under budget. Ahead of schedule. And we need that for --
[19:05:18] BASH: I have to say that I've been reporting on the fact that you are going to North Carolina for a couple of stops from here. But my next question is, there is a new poll in Florida that has you up a couple of points. And other swing states have you really in the hunt. Given that, are you prepared to write a check to help yourself get over the finish line? And if so, how big?
TRUMP: Let me just tell you that we have -- I have over a hundred million dollars in the campaign. Hillary Clinton has nothing in the campaign. She's all special interest and donors and they give her the money and she will do whatever they tell her to do. But I'll have over a hundred million dollars in the campaign. And I'm prepared to go much more than that. Now, there is a question new polls are coming out. We're leading -- we're doing great in North Carolina. We're doing great in Pennsylvania. We're doing great all over. We're doing really well in New Hampshire. Ohio as you know and Iowa doing fantastically well. I'm telling you, CNN doesn't say it. But I think we're going to win.
BASH: So, but to do that, you have a pretty big bank account. You can -- and time is running out. Will you write a check?
TRUMP: I've already done it. I've already written a number of them.
BASH: Specifically to get up on the air --
TRUMP: Sure.
BASH: To combat the ad that you say Hillary Clinton us running against --
TRUMP: In Florida, she's 50 to one against me. Fifty --
BASH: But you have the means to --
TRUMP: In the meantime, sure I do. But in the meantime, 50 to one. And I'm leading. You know, in the old days you would get credit if you spend less money and have a victory. That would be a good thing. Today they want you to spend money. I'll have over a hundred million. I'm willing to spend much more than that if I have. I'm seeing these great signs. You know, one of the other things we're seeing in Florida, we're seeing it in other places, the lines going into voting areas are unbelievable. I mean, in Florida yesterday, we passed four of them. The lines were three and four blocks long. Those are not her voters because her voters have no enthusiasm whatsoever.
BASH: Can you just be specific how much are you willing to put down in order to --
TRUMP: No, I will have over a hundred million in. I'm willing to invest more than that?
BASH: Like how much?
TRUMP: Dana, let's go to the next question, Dana.
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BURNETT: Dana, let's go to the next question. Trump clearly not happy with your line of questioning. But this is a crucial question.
BASH: That is right. I think, you know, he clearly had had enough, he wasn't going to give me the specifics and he wanted to move on. But it is important and the reason is, he alluded to it in part of his answer there. That for example in Florida, he said Hillary Clinton is up 50 to one, I'm not sure if the number is exact. But his point is correct and that is the frustration Erin that I hear from Republicans that he is potentially so close to winning some of these swing states and he is at a disadvantage because of the way his campaign is because he was a self-financer in the primaries and now the Trump campaign itself doesn't have as much money as Hillary Clinton because she does raise and has raised a lot of money.
They have to rely on him. And they really feel like they need him to write a check. Just for example Erin, I was told that Reince Priebus, the RNC chair actually went to Trump and said, please this is earlier this month, please write a check so we can get ads on television. So you can get ads on television, so you can be competitive and he didn't do it for that reason. We'll see at the end of the day when we see the FEC report how much at the end he really did give. Right now, the last one was about 56 million dollars. So, he's saying hundred million, then he's given over $40 million in the last few weeks.
BURNETT: All right. We'll see if that is the case. All right. Dana, thank you very much.
And OUTFRONT now. Trump supporter, Paris Dennard, Clinton supporter, Maria Cardona whose firm does work for a pro-Clinton Super Pac. Patrick Healy, New York Times political correspondent and David Gergen who served as advisor to four presidents including Reagan and Clinton. Paris, let me just ask you. You know, if Trump is right in his numbers and he says he's put in more than a hundred million. He said it multiple times today even though he didn't like the question. That would mean he's put in, you know, close to $50 million in just the past few weeks. But you heard what she said. Potentially so close to winning some swing states. It is going take money. Do you think he's going to actually do it, put in a lot more of his own skin.
PARIS DENNARD, TRUMP NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION MEMBER: Well, we can just take Mr. Trump for his word. He has already put in millions of dollars into his campaign and if necessary, he will do what it takes to win. Mr. Trump entered this campaign I believe the win the election. And he is going to continue to contribute to his campaign. But what I would hope is that Americans, my fellow Republicans would get on board this Trump train and contribute to make sure that we have Donald Trump a Republican in the White House.
[19:10:05] If we don't do that, if we don't get behind him and support him, why should we expect anybody else to? So, I think Republicans need to come home and support Mr. Trump financially and I would hope Mr. Trump would continue what he's already done and to contribute to his campaign and Hillary Clinton should do the same.
BURNETT: Now, we're going to see more on these polls in a moment about how many Republicans really are on board with Trump now. It's actually almost equivalent to Democrats.
But David Gergen, you just heard Trump very defensive to Dana when she asked about, why are you in Washington at this hotel opening, you know, touting yourself instead of out on the campaign trail? You know, he said, look Clinton is home sleeping. When you look at how many rallies they do, he generally does do more every day. And he did leave Washington, go North Carolina and do two more rallies, one of which is about to start now. Did he make a good case for stopping by for his hotel opening with his family or not?
DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: I think he made a reasonable case. You know, I thought he was -- I was surprised that he replied so harshly to Dana. You know, his remarks to her were in effect rudeness towards a woman reporter. And I'm just not sure that was very helpful to him. He had a much better story to tell about. You know, I built this hotel. I built this hotel and as proven I am going to do -- what I can do for business, I can do for the country and so forth. And I think particularly on a day when Trump supporters have a reason to be more cheerful and more optimistic. I mean, this FOX poll was important.
BURNETT: Yes.
GERGEN: There are other polls out there which have shown some tightening. So, you know, he could be on the move. We'll have to wait and see. We need more information but he could be on the move and, you know, it may be that some of Hillary Clinton's teams are breaking out right now.
BURNETT: All right. Well, thank you very much. And that is the big question because the breaking news are these new polls. Is he on the move? Is this truly a resurgent Trump that could win in two weeks?
John King at the magic wall next show you exactly what this means, next.
Plus, Trump's most valuable asset, his name. Is this brand taking a big hit? We'll investigate. And Trump congratulating Newt Gingrich for this.
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NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: You are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy.
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[19:15:23] BURNETT: Breaking news. Live pictures out of North Carolina. Donald Trump about to speak at a rally there. You see his plane pulling in. Going to be speaking to supporters right there. Second rally in North Carolina this afternoon. Coming as new polls show Trump on the rise.
A FOX News national poll out moments ago showed Trump cutting Clinton's lead in half. At another poll shows Trump on top in the state that could decide the entire election. And Trump has been weighing in this afternoon.
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TRUMP: You see the new polls coming out? Where we are really doing well. We're going to win North Carolina. We're going to win Florida too. We're going to win Ohio. And we're going to win Iowa. We're winning a lot of states.
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BURNETT: John King is OUTFRONT. And John, you know, you got the national poll but now the poll in Florida. Trump now up.
JOHN KING, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Now up Erin, it shows some Trump momentum. He just mentioned those states. He rallied them up. Even if he wins them all, it is not enough. But if you're Donald Trump or you're Trump supporter, things are looking a little better tonight. Let's start with those Florida numbers. Forty five to 43 in this new Bloomberg politics poll. Other polls have shown Clinton ahead. So, we'll see what happens in the next few days.
But Donald Trump in this latest poll has pulled slightly ahead in battleground Florida. Twenty nine electoral votes, Erin. He has to win them. Without a doubt he has to win them. The reasons why, let me take a minute to show you why. This is quite interesting as we head into now really 12 days left to campaign. If the election is about creating jobs or about changing Washington, Trump wins. Voters view him as the best candidate to do that by a big margin. If it is about temperament, a role model for our children, Hillary Clinton wins by a huge margin.
So how the candidates shape the race in this final week plus Erin, is critical. If it is about jobs and change, Trump might win. If it is about temperament, who is the role model for our children, that is Hillary Clinton's basket, right there where she wants to stay. Now, let's look at a couple of other polls. Battleground New Hampshire. Small electoral price. Mixed results in New Hampshire today, Erin. Look at this poll here. This is from Monmouth University shows a much tighter race.
Trump closing in 46-42. But at the same time we have a poll from the NBC News Wall Street Journal, still 46-36. So, let's watch New Hampshire clearly a volatile election there. And one other very interesting one tonight out west, Nevada, key to vote of the big Obama victories because of the Latino vote but look at this. A dead heat. NBC Wall Street Journal poll coming out tonight 43-43. So, clearly still advantage Clinton when he goes state by state, Erin. But Donald Trump has a bit of momentum right now. She will surprise us. We don't have a very polarized country. But it is getting tighter as we go into the stretch.
BURNETT: And look, as we all know, momentum matters a lot in terms of inspiring people, getting people on board. People want to be with a winner. So what do these polls mean for that all important number 270?
KING: Let's switch maps and take a look. We've had Hillary Clinton up by a pretty lopsided margin because we had tilted Florida leaning Democratic. We had tilted Nevada leaning Democratic. Let's see if more data comes in to convince us to take that away. Because if Trump can take Nevada, and if Trump can take Florida, that gets him on a path. Then she's down to 272. And he's up to 214. You just heard Donald Trump saying he's leading in Iowa. We already give him that one. He is leaning his way right now. We'll see.
He has to win North Carolina Erin without a doubt when he make that red. That would get him to 229. And he has to win Ohio without a doubt. That would get him the 247. And that is the problem for Trump. Even if, even if things are turning his way in some of these states, it is still not enough. Mike Pence is out in Utah tonight. Hillary Clinton leads in the latest poll in Arizona. This is the ruby red west.
He has to pull those states around. And even if he gets those, let me just finish the hypothetical, even if he brings those red states home, he's still a little short. So Donald Trump needs a perfect 13 days and even if he looks for a perfect 13 days, he still has to find something big here that's blue and turn it. So, a chance? Yes. Steep hill? Very.
BURNETT: All right. John King, thank you. And my panel is back with me.
Patrick, let me start with you. The new FOX poll.
PATRICK HEALY, POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, THE NEW YORK TIMES: Yes. BURNETT: Cutting Clinton's lead in half. And coming from a group that they both have been fighting over but Hillary Clinton has to win. Independents. OK. Favoring Trump by 13 points. Last week, same poll, it was seven. Week before that, they were running even.
HEALY: Yes.
BURNETT: OK. And this is during the time you've had the accusations with women, you've had tapes, and he hasn't prove, you know, stupendously --
HEALY: Right.
BURNETT: OK. He used the word he would want to use. Why? What is the significance here?
HEALY: We're getting close to Election Day. And all of those people who have had some kind of misgivings about Hillary Clinton and may not even like how she, you know, came across in the debates. I finally saying no, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. Gary Johnson seems, you know, too weird, Jill Stein not for me. I'm going to sort of go with Trump. It might be because of the Supreme Court. Might be because of the economy. There is some amount of coming home here. The thing is, Erin is that and this goes to Dana's interview with Trump.
He acknowledges that he is down 50 to one in ad spending in places like Florida. If he was to put money in and to put up ads that were all about the ObamaCare premiums and how Hillary Clinton has been running, you know, from his point of view for basically on Obama third term. And he pounded that over the next two weeks. And Reince Priebus and traditional Republicans would be thrilled. I mean, he has an opportunity but he can't do it. It is not the way he sees it. He wants to win like he won the primaries. He wants to win without having to spend any money. Just the cult of personality is so great.
[19:20:30] BURNETT: And yet Maria, you know, 83 percent of Democrats now on board with Hillary Clinton. The Bernie Sanders issue seems to be behind her. Eighty one percent of Republicans in this polls tonight are on board with Donald Trump.
MARIA CARDONA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Sure.
BURNETT: They're on board too.
CARDONA: It is no surprise, Erin. And I'm glad to hear Hillary Clinton say, this isn't over. You know, Trump could still win. Because that is what Democrats and there are other Independents, I have a theory about Independents in this poll which is that they are not really Independents, that there were Republicans who were embarrassed to say they were Republicans and changed to Independents. And they are coming home. But there are clearly Independents out there. And even Republicans who believe that Donald Trump is way too dangerous to be in the Oval Office for them, for the Democratic base, it is important to know that this is not over. That we need everybody to get out there and vote. Right now, Florida numbers actually look good.
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CARDONA: Yes. I completely agree. There was actually another poll Erin and people that just came out, that has Hillary at 51 and Trump at 37. I want people to believe the FOX News poll. Because then that will make sure that they see, look, this isn't over, our vote really does count.
HEALY: But isn't amazing that it seems like Trump is doing so little to win these people over. I mean, that he's basically able to just sort of go and do his rallies.
CARDONA: But that is not any different than what we've seen him doing from the very beginning. He's never pivoted to a general election campaign.
HEALY: Right.
CARDONA: It's still very much a base campaign which is why I believe at the end of the day Hillary Clinton will end up in the Oval Office.
HEALY: Paris?
DENNARD: Maria is just mistaken. He is connecting with the American people. You saw what John King's reports said on the issue of economy, on the issue of jobs, on the issue of trustworthiness. He leads. He leads because the American people right now are focusing on the campaign and they are listening to what's coming out of WikiLeaks every single day. The drip drop from that. The issues with her e- mails and they are listening to Mr. Trump's hundred day plans for winning. And this urban America. This agenda for urban renewal that came out today. They are listening and they are seeing substance and their lacking --
BURNETT: So, on this issue of polls though David, I mean, this is -- you know, we all remember -- well we don't remember. We all remember seeing. We've all seen, Dewey defeats Truman. In 1980, a Gallup poll showed Jimmy Carter beating Ronald Reagan by eight points with registered voters. OK. Three points with likely and Reagan as we all know, went on to win in a landslide. Obviously there are a lot more polls out there right now right now. It is a different world in that sense. But is it possible David that Trump could do what frankly the vast majority of Americans do not think he will not do and that is win.
GERGEN: Yes it is possible. And the odds of him winning I think were maybe 10 percent chance according to experts about two days ago. And now they are maybe 15-20 percent. So yes he could definitely win this. I think it is important not to over read any single poll.
BURNETT: Right.
GERGEN: The FOX poll has it down to three. But the ABC tracking poll the other day had Hillary up 12. What we do know, it is possible for him to win. It remains an uphill fight because of the Electoral College of John King, just I think showed a very persuasively how hard it is for him to get there. But he could get there. I think he has been helped Erin, by the fact that he hasn't been quite so much mired in defensiveness about the craziness that he went through with Miss Universe and the sex tape and women coming forward. He's finally got a little bit of a clearing and by the way these polls I think do not yet show the impact of the ObamaCare spike in premium prices which would add a little more weight to the Trump side. But she still got the lead, she still the favorite, but he's knocking on the door again.
BURNETT: All right.
DENNARD: And he has enthusiasm and energy. Look at those crowds. Look at the camera right now. You see those crowds?
CARDONA: So does Hillary Clinton. And I think at the end of the day, this is going to be decided on temperament. That is something that has not changed from the beginning of this campaign. People go into the booth and they say, who can be commander-in-chief? And Donald Trump has not proven that he's that the person.
BURNETT: All right. Well, we're going leave it there. I will say though on the ObamaCare issue, we actually went to investigate this today. Reporter in the field talking to undecided voters. Crucial swing state of North Carolina. On the issue of ObamaCare, does it matter or not? Really, these are crucial voices and you'll going to hear them later this hour.
Plus next, Newt Gingrich under fire tonight. Not the first time his comments about women that gotten him in trouble.
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BURNETT: And Trump on his newest luxury hotel.
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TRUMP: We built a hotel that is going to be one of the great hotels of the world. Just opened today.
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BURNETT: But is his campaign hurting the bottom-line?
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[19:29:06] BURNETT: Donald Trump on the stage in Kingston, North Carolina. You saw him just land, literally landing. Going straight to speak. Second rally in North Carolina today. Taking a pit stop this morning though to open his new hotel in Washington, D.C. on Pennsylvania Avenue where the Republican nominee had some glowing words for Newt Gingrich who went head to head with FOX News Megyn Kelly over Trump's alleged sexual assaults. Trump's praise raising a few eyebrows given the two men's history with women.
Kyung Lah is OUTFRONT.
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TRUMP: By the way, congratulations Newt on last night. That was an amazing interview.
KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump praising his closest ally Newt Gingrich after this exchange with FOX News Megyn Kelly about Trump's sexual assault accusers.
GINGRICH: You are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy.
MEGYN KELLY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Me, really?
GINGRICH: Well, that is what I get out of watching you tonight.
KELLY: You know what Mr. Speaker, I'm not fascinated by sex. But I am fascinated by the protection of women and understanding what we're getting in the Oval Office.
[19:30:06]LAH: Gingrich is not the only man in Trump's inner circle who's found himself embroiled in controversy when it comes to women.
STEVE BANNON, DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN CEO: We need a fight in the Republican Party for the soul of the conservative movement.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I agree with you.
LAH: Campaign CEO Steve Bannon in 1996, he faced misdemeanor domestic violence charges. His ex-wife in this Santa Monica, California, police report alleging he grabbed her, an incident that the officer says left red marks on her left wrist and the right side of her neck.
Those charges were dropped. Bannon would become a right wing media mogul. In a 2011 radio interview using a derogatory gay slur to describe progressive women.
BANNON: They wouldn't be a bunch of (EXPLETIVE DELETED) that come from the Seven Sisters school up in New England.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a FOX News alert --
LAH: The man behind FOX News, Roger Ailes, is now an unofficial Trump campaign whisperer, though Trump won't officially acknowledge his role. FOX News ousted Ailes after multiple women accused him of sexual harassment, most prominently, anchor Gretchen Carlson received a $20 million settlement from FOX.
GINGRICH: You're not supposed to gain 60 pounds during the year that you're Miss Universe.
LAH: That's Gingrich speaking last month, defending Trump's comments about Alicia Machado, the former Miss Universe. She says Trump called her Miss Piggy. Gingrich and Trump share a spotty history when it comes to their marriages, both wed three times, both accused of infidelity.
In 2012, Gingrich's second wife recalled this is about her former husband to ABC News.
MARIANNE GINGRICH, NEWT GINGRICH'S SECOND WIFE: He was asking to have an open marriage and I refused.
LAH: Gingrich denies the allegation.
Then, there is Rudy Giuliani. Former New York City mayor and Trump backer who's quick to bring up Bill Clinton's infidelity, criticizing not just him but Hillary Clinton.
RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: She attacked Monica Lewinsky. And after being married to Bill Clinton for 20 years, if you didn't know the moment Monica Lewinsky said that Bill Clinton violated her that she was telling the truth, then you're too stupid to be president.
LAH: But Giuliani should be able to relate to marital strife, married three times. He announced his separation to his second wife at a press conference before telling her. His divorce and affair playing out publicly on New York tabloid front pages.
Kyung Lah, CNN.
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BURNETT: And OUTFRONT now, Lisa Bloom, attorney represent Jill Harth, who filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against Donald Trump, and Kayleigh McEnany, a Donald Trump supporter.
Kayleigh, let me start with you. Why would Trump even bring the interview up with Newt Gingrich today? He's in a major event opening a new hotel and he stops to say, hey, great job.
KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Because Newt Gingrich spoke for a lot of us last night. I think when he said the word "you", it wasn't geared towards Megyn Kelly, it was geared towards the media at large. When he said there is this obsession with sex, as opposed to public policy.
Every focused group has told us, voters want to hear about public policy. They don't want to hear about sex, from Bill Clinton or Donald Trump. So, I think Newt Gingrich had a moment where he spoke to a lot of American voters and Trump wanted to celebrate that.
BURNETT: Lisa?
LISA BLOOM, ATTORNEY FOR WOMAN WHO SUED TRUMP FOR HARASSMENT IN 1997: Wow. So, this is not about sex and to sex-shame Megyn Kelly who is on their side, when she's asking completely appropriate questions not about sex but about sexual is really appalling.
I mean, these guys all in their own unique ways as we've just seen have way of shaming women, of abusing women, of the women in their own lives. That's who Donald Trump chose to surround himself with. We all heard him bragging about sexual assault on that "Access Hollywood" tape and to say we shouldn't be talking about sexual assault of American women is absolutely appalling to me.
MCENANY: Lisa, I really think you misunderstand the point here. I appreciate Megyn Kelly as a journalist. She's done a lot for the right, bringing up Ferguson, and exposing some of the policies there. I respect her.
But that moment was a moment where he was standing up for voters. Voters don't want to hear about this, Lisa, because none of these allegations, these kissing allegations affect the lives of American voters. What does are Obamacare premiums, are some of the things we saw on WikiLeaks. People want to hear about issues. They quite frankly don't care about this, certainly not at a 7-1 ratio of what we see with Media Research Center is the coverage over Donald Trump's sex tape allegation, whatever you want to call them, versus the WikiLeaks.
BLOOM: Sexual assault. Let's say the words that we're talking about. When we talks about grabbing a woman's genitals and what fun it is for him because he's a star and he can get away with it, when over a dozen women have come forward with sexual assault allegations, we are talk about sexual assault. We are not talking about sex.
You know, I would agree that if we're talking about consensual adult sex, we don't need to talk about it. But when we're talking about having somebody as the leader of our country who is subjected over and over again to allegations from credible women who have nothing to gain, that is absolutely a key important issue.
I know Newt Gingrich doesn't want to talk about it and Donald Trump doesn't want to talk about it, except to disparage the women and threaten to sue them, I think the American people are very interested.
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[19:35:01] BURNETT: To Kayleigh's point on whether voters care, OK? In the latest poll tonight from FOX News, Donald Trump is down by ten points among women, right? So that would seem to bolster your point.
But, you know, George W. Bush won the White House with a ten point deficit among women. He lost women in 2000, he lost women to John Kerry. Ten points is well within the normal range here. It doesn't seem as if a lot of women are angry or upset about this Lisa from that.
BLOOM: I think women are very angry and very upset about Donald Trump and his record towards women. I think it is going to be women who defeat him in this election. And this isn't just new since the "Access Hollywood" tape.
I mean, my client Jill Harth sued him in 1997 for sexual harassment. And Ivana Trump his first wife accused him of marital rape back in the 1980s. She kind of sort of took it back and said she didn't mean it literally. But these allegations have hounded him for decades. Listen, I talk to women every day. And my clients who are a couple of
Trump accusers, you know, they talk about the pain that has caused in thinker lives and the example this sets for children. And I think people care a lot about it.
MCENANY: Lisa, I'm quite -- I'm flabbergasted here, because, look, first of all, these allegations aren't proven. We have a presumption of innocence in this country, where they are unproven. They deserve to be heard in a court of law. Not here, is my vision.
But, look, if you care so deeply about these allegations of Donald Trump, why are you so concerned about putting Bill Clinton back in the White House, putting his enabler, Hillary Clinton, who put private investigators on these women? We have proof of that in the deposition. Why aren't you concern about that?
There's a massive double standard here and it makes me question if you're really standing up for women's rights if you're not concerned about women --
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BLOOM: You obviously don't know my record, because I called for Bill Clinton to resign in the 1990s based on his allegations. Bill Clinton is not running for office anymore than Melania Trump is running for office. As between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, I think she would choose Hillary Clinton who doesn't have any sexual assault allegations pending against her.
And Melania Trump did the same thing. She stood up for her husband. She said she doesn't believe the allegations. I think that's what we expect a wife to do.
That's a far cry from over a dozen women who have come forward in the last couple of weeks to corroborate Donald's own bragging that he has committed sexual assault.
MCENANY: Hillary Clinton put private investigators on these women. Multiple women have come forward and said they were actually harassed by these investigators. She was the enabler. We have proof of that in the deposition. In fact, it's the only court document we have regarding either of these allegations --
BLOOM: I thought people were innocent until proven guilty.
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MCENANY: But you don't care because it fits your agenda. She's a Democrat. So, sexual assault doesn't matter if it's Democrat who's doing it.
BLOOM: Actually, I've been consistent in going after both men and apparently you're not consistent because you only want to talk about Bill Clinton and don't want to talk --
(CROSSTALK) MCENANY: I don't want to talk about any of --
BLOOM: Donald Trump, he's innocent until proven guilty but with Bill Clinton, because somebody said something in a deposition, then you're going to take it conclusively.
Look, here's the key difference: both of these men are accused of sexual assault. That is true. Bill Clinton has always denied it. Donald Trump is caught on tape bragging about it.
BURNETT: All right. We'll leave it there. Thank you both very much.
MCENANY: Thank you.
BURNETT: And next, Donald Trump's brand taking a hit. Apartment tenants now want his name remove from a building.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why should he get part of my rent? And why should his name be on there?
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BURNETT: And soaring cost of Obamacare, how it's affecting voters across the country. Our investigation.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My premium went up from $400, almost $400 to $500. How is this possible?
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[19:41:26] BURNETT: New tonight: Donald Trump dismissing concerns that the campaign will affect his new luxury hotel in downtown Washington, D.C. And as you know, he sort of put everything into this. He told our Dana Bash today at the hotel's grand opening that it would be one of the great hotels of the world. But signs are emerging that Trump's campaign may be hurting his billion dollar business.
Miguel Marquez is OUTFRONT with the number.
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MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Trump in business mode. His presidential bid on brief hold.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: As soon as we're finished cutting the ribbon, I'm off to North Carolina, New Hampshire and back down to Florida.
MARQUEZ: But the suggestion by CNN's Dana Bash that he's putting business ahead of politics?
TRUMP: For you to ask me that question is actually very insulting, because Hillary Clinton does one stop and then she goes home and sleeps.
MARQUEZ: Trump's brand, his name being hammered literally on Hollywood's Walk of Fame over remarks he's made on and off the campaign trail.
Three Democratic senators urging the U.S. Golf Association to move the women's tournament from Trump's New Jersey golf club. The USGA for now says it's staying. But in June, a PGA tournament move from Trump's Florida golf club to Mexico when enough sponsorships couldn't be acquired.
At some Manhattan buildings bearing the Trump's name, residents now petitioning to have the golden letters remove.
MARJORIE JACOBS, TRUMP PLACE RESIDENT: Why should he get part of my rent and why should his name be on there?
MARQUEZ: There are signs Trump's White House bid is hurting his brand. His latest hotel not called Trump at all, instead Scion. Serta Mattress, Macy's and Univision have already cut ties with Trump.
Today, protests outside Trump's new D.C. hotel as he cut the official ribbon inside.
Chef Jose Andres pulled his restaurant from the project over the candidate's remarks about immigration. Trump sued and in a deposition insisted everything on the business front is a-okay.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What impact do you think your political campaign has had on the success of your hotels?
TRUMP: I don't think it's had much.
MARQUEZ: But at his Mar-A-Lago in Florida, the Susan G. Komen breast cancer foundation is now under pressure to move its yearly fundraiser to a new location. The foundation declined to comment to CNN.
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MARQUEZ: Now, a spokesperson for the Trump Organization says that the Trump brand is incredibly strong and they are seeing great success across all the business units. What they did not say, though, was whether or not revenues were actually up this year. As for taking the name off of buildings, Hope Hicks from the Trump campaign says if they take that name off, the worth of that building will go down -- Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Miguel, thank you very much.
And OUTFRONT now, Peter Greenberg, news travel editor for CBS.
You reported a lot on this new hotel, right? And we've talked about, you know, many thousands of dollars it takes to stay there on inauguration, regardless of whether he is the one being inaugurated. If the hotel isn't a success, how significant is that?
PETER GREENBERG, TRAVEL EDITOR, CBS NEWS: Well, you know, it's the flagship now of his brand.
BURNETT: Yes.
GREENBERG: The problem is, how much did he pay for the hotel. How much did he outbid everybody else and did that make economic sense. Remember, he was in competition to lease this from the General Services Administration from the U.S. government --
BURNETT: Right.
GREENBERG: -- with Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott and others. They ended up dropping out.
Trump made a statement saying he got the deal because his balance sheet was so strong. They would argue, no, he overbid for the hotel to the point where they dropped out because they crunched the numbers and couldn't figure a way that anybody could make a profit.
[19:45:06] In fact, one hotel group wrote a letter to the government saying, look at these numbers, this is a bankruptcy case waiting to happen.
BURNETT: Bankruptcy case waiting to happen -- what they alleged. Wow, that's incredible.
GREENBERG: Yes.
BURNETT: All right. Now, when it comes to whether Trump's brand will still sell, you have looked at this that there is one particular group of people that we can see at exactly what they are doing and why.
GREENBERG: Well, an overwhelming number of travel agents are women. But even more important than that, women make the majority of travel decisions.
So, as we researched this, we found out that very large number of travel agents are not booking his hotel but their clients are proactively saying that more than 50 percent do not put me at that hotel. That also applies to meetings and conventions, weddings, other affairs that might happen in the ballroom. And numbers just don't add up.
For him to break even on this hotel alone in Washington, he'd have to charge over $700 a night for the room. In fact, when he opened the hotel, they were charging $825.
BURNETT: Right, right. Yes.
GREENBERG: Do you know what the rate is tonight?
BURNETT: What?
GREENBERG: 404. So, run the numbers. BURNETT: I can do that in my head.
GREENBERG: Me, too.
BURNETT: All right. Peter Greenberg, thank you very much.
And next Trump attacking Clinton over skyrocketing Obamacare costs. Our investigation on what voters think in the most crucial swing state.
And Jeanne Moos on why this woman is so desperate to see her husband reelected.
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GERALD DAUGHERTY: We've got room to put 2,700 people in our jail, and it costs us about $103 a day.
CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: Gerald really doesn't have any hobbies.
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[19:50:23] BURNETT: Breaking news in North Carolina: Donald Trump holding a rally at a crucial swing state, of course, moments ago attacking Obamacare after the White House admitted that premiums are skyrocketing.
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TRUMP: Real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing the disaster known as Obamacare.
And Hillary wants to double up and triple up, what a disgusting situation. And it was no good. It was no good the day it was conceived.
Job-killing Obamacare is just one more way the system is rigged. System is rigged, folks. It's all rigged.
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BURNETT: Could Obamacare be the issue that decides who wins and loses in the must-win swing states like North Carolina? We went to find out.
Jessica Schneider is OUTFRONT.
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JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Pop into a sports bar in Raleigh and you will find Obamacare is a hot topic, even more so than the World Series.
DAVE MATTIS, NORTH CAROLINA VOTER: I'm actually looking for work. I Googled today companies that will hire part-time senior people and actually pay --
SCHNEIDER (on camera): Is this what you want to do though in your retirement?
MATTIS: No. I mean --
SCHNEIDER (voice-over): Sixty-three-year-old Dave Mattis will retire November 9th, the day after the election. But with premiums for his income and age bracket up to $900 per month, he doesn't know how he'll afford health care. He's voting for Donald Trump with hopes that a Trump administration would rein in costs.
MATTIS: I want all those people that are considering voting for Hillary to imagine themselves unemployed and go online and figure out what healthcare is going to cost them.
SCHNEIDER (on camera): And you think it is unsustainable.
MATTIS: It is unsustainable.
SCHNEIDER (voice-over): In North Carolina, after two insurance carriers dropped out of exchange, premiums are going up on average 24 percent, creating backlash and despair.
BRIAN SMITH, NORTH CAROLINA VOTER: Based on my experience, it hadn't been very affordable at all.
SCHNEIDER: Forty-two-year-old Brian Smith runs his own home security company and buys his healthcare through the exchange. With rising premiums and a high deductible, he shells out $14,000 a year. He like most of the others we spoke with isn't eligible for government subsidies.
Smith is ex-military and middle class and feels he's bearing too much of the burden. He's independent but he too is turning to Trump.
SMITH: People that maybe are getting all the subsidies and they're paying 50 bucks a month for better healthcare than I have, they are probably loving Obamacare, you know? So, it's got to swing back over. It's got to work for everybody.
SCHNEIDER: Wray Harrison pays $1,200 a month for himself, his wife and their 15-year-old son. The cost is crippling, but as a Hillary Clinton supporter, he sees the positives.
WRAY HARRISON, NORTH CAROLINA VOTER: There are college students, young people who can now get insurance, people of pre-existing conditions that can get insurance. So, that's all really good stuff.
SCHNEIDER (on camera): But you are paying for it.
HARRISON: But I'm paying for it. And it is hard on my family.
SCHNEIDER (voice-over): Julie and Tony Smith open their mail this week to discover the news they feared.
JULIE SMITH, NORTH CAROLINA VOTER: So yours has gone up to $480.
SCHNEIDER: Julie still undecided between Clinton and Trump. But she says regardless of who wins, healthcare needs a reboot.
J. SMITH: My premium went up from $400 -- almost $400 to $500.
SCHNEIDER (on camera): What are you thinking a when you read this?
J. SMITH: How is this possible?
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SCHNEIDER: And Donald Trump drawing some big cheers tonight when he reiterated his plans to repeal and replace Obamacare.
Now, as for Julie Smith, that last woman you heard from. She is still undecided. She said healthcare won't be the deciding factor, but it is making her reevaluate these candidates -- Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, Jessica. Fantastic piece. A real question everyone needed answered. And OUTFRONT next, Jeanne Moos on what is behind this desperate woman's plea?
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CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: Please reelect Gerald. Please.
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[19:58:04] BURNETT: Political spouses often appear in ads to help get their partners elected. But one Texas candidate's wife had a more selfish motivation.
Here is Jeanne Moos.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Had enough of Trump bashing Clinton?
AD NARRATOR: So, how did Hillary end up filthy rich?
MOOS: And Clinton bashing Trump.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), FLORIDA: He is a con artist.
MITT ROMNEY (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: A phony.
MOOS: Maybe you would prefer a political ad in which a wife begs voters to relieve her of her husband, a number crunching nerd.
GERALD DAUGHERTY: It costs us about $103 a day --
CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: Gerald really doesn't have any hobbies.
GERALD DAUGHERTY: Less your tax rate was 0.4169.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, is he always like that?
CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: Yeah. All the time.
MOOS: He is Gerald Daugherty, a Republican running to be Travis County commissioner with a little eye rolling help from his wife of 21 years.
And does your wife really roll her eyes that often?
GERALD DAUGHERTY: She actually does. She didn't have to take but two or three takes on that.
CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: Most people leave their work at the office.
GERALD DAUGHERTY: We got three light rail cars. You can put 60 people on each car. So, even if you add two cars --
MOOS: Do you really like your light rail cars well done?
GERALD DAUGHERTY: You know, my opponent, I asked him said is there anything you didn't like about the ad? He said, I think the meat was overcooked.
MOOS: Gerald's political consultant dreamed up the ad inspired by "The Office". It took six hours to shoot. The neighbors were played by friends.
CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: All he wants to do is fix things.
GERALD DAUGHERTY: But quite frankly, it's not a code violation.
You know, I think I like helping around the house here.
CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: Please reelect Gerald. Please.
MOOS: Gerald thinks his ad went viral because humor takes the edge off the rancor of the 2016 campaign.
Do you think your wife really wants to get you off her hands and out of the house?
GERALD DAUGHERTY: Oh absolutely. She does love me a lot. But she loves me away.
CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: Please reelect Gerald.
MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN --
CHARLYN DAUGHERTY: Please.
MOOS: -- New York.
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BURNETT: And thanks for joining us.
Anderson is next.
