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[19:00:08] ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: OUTFRONT next, crunch time. Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton about to rally supporters in key battleground states as new polls show the race getting even tighter tonight.
Plus, Trump slamming Jay-Z's bad language at a Clinton rally in saying he doesn't celebrities to win.
And CNN's crew ambushed by ISIS, trapped in Mosul for 24 hours. Our Arwa Damon tells us what happened.
Let's go OUTFRONT.
And good evening. I'm Erin Burnett. Welcome to a special edition of OUTFRONT on this Saturday, the final push. It's just three days until Election Day. And as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump make their closing arguments to the nation, the race has tightened even more.
Hillary Clinton, hosting a free Katy Perry concert in Philadelphia tonight. That's about to kick off. We are going to be taking you there live tonight. There's a lot happening this evening.
Donald Trump is going to be rallying supporters in the crucial state of Nevada. And we are going to take you live there as well.
But the polls tonight, it's really neck-and-neck. It's gotten even tighter just in 24 hours. A (INAUDIBLE) poll today giving Clinton a one-point lead over Trump. That is, of course, a virtual tie well with any margin of error. And that put the CNN poll of polls which averages the five latest polls with Clinton leading by three. OK, last night, that was five. So it's gone from five to three in just 24 hours on our poll of polls.
Clinton spending most of today in Florida and then in Pennsylvania. There, she thanked Jay-Z and Beyonce for performing a concert for her.
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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: My personal favorite part was Beyonce had her backup singers and dancers in pantsuits. I mean --.
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BURNETT: Trump continuing his relentless whistle stops. He had rallies in four states. And today Melania Trump was with him.
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MELANIA TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP'S WIFE: He is also compassionate, thoughtful, giving and loving. Donald cares --
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BURNETT: Our reporters are fanned out across the country tonight in these frantic closing hours of what is truly an historic race.
Begin with Brianna Keilar. She is OUTFRONT at Clinton event that the Katy Perry concert which is about to start in Philadelphia.
Brianna, maybe some of the things you never expected in your role as senior political correspondent. You are getting all these amazing concerts in the last couple of days. What is the closing message from Clinton tonight?
BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: The closing message is vote. That is what these final days are about. So it's about riling up folks, specific folks who Hillary Clinton wants to help her secure a pathway to the White House. Pennsylvania is so key to her strategy. Philadelphia is so key to her strategy in all of Pennsylvania. And particularly, we are talking about suburban women. And I'm looking around here. There are many of them who have brought their daughters out for this show.
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KEILAR (voice-over): Hillary Clinton campaigning in Florida today.
CLINTON: It's a big state. A lot of ground to cover.
KEILAR: The fourth time she has been in this state this week, thanking the crowd for braving the rain to see her.
CLINTON: My friends, you are a hearty bunch standing out here in the rain. I don't think I need to tell you, all of the wrong things about Donald Trump. But here is what I want you to remember. I want to be the president for everybody. Everybody agrees with me, people who don't agree with me, people who vote for me, people who don't vote for me.
KEILAR: Recent polls put Florida at a statistical tie and with 29 electoral votes at stake, Clinton's campaign sees the sunshine state as one way to block Donald Trump's path to the White House and they are encouraged by high Hispanic voter turnout by those voting early. CLINTON: Every day in this campaign is exciting. And being here with all of you, the last Saturday before Election Day really gets me geared up. We are seeing tremendous momentum, large numbers of people turning out breaking records.
KEILAR: Clinton and her long bench of surrogates are fanning out across battleground states in these final hours before Election Day.
Her running mate, Tim Kaine, also campaigning in Florida and vice president Joe Biden in his home state of Pennsylvania slamming Donald Trump.
JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The guy who wants to be president getting up at 3:30 in the morning and tweeting vitriol about a woman's body, her weight, calling women pigs. I mean, imagine -- I get the back of my father's hand quicker than -- no, I really -- I really mean it. You know what I'm talking about. Can you imagine at your dinner table your father and mother allowing you to speak that way?
KEILAR: Clinton is also tapping star power. Her campaign is out with a new ad in toss-up states featuring Katy Perry.
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[19:05:12] KEILAR: And of course, Katy Perry will be performing ahead of Hillary Clinton speaking to this crowd here, Erin, in west Philadelphia. If last night is any indication of what we would expect, that was the Jay-Z/Beyonce concert. We would expect a big concert. And then Hillary Clinton just to make some brief remarks as she tries to urge people to get out to vote.
But just a sense of how important Philadelphia is, Hillary Clinton is going to be back here on Monday. It is one of her final stops on the day before Election Day. And she is going to have a lot of help. She will have her husband. She will have her daughter Chelsea. President Obama as well as first lady Michelle Obama will also be with her in the city of brotherly love as she tries for her final push to the White House.
BURNETT: All right. Brianna, thank you.
And Kyung Lah is in Reno in Nevada where Trump is expected to take the stage shortly as well.
Kyung, what are we expecting from Trump tonight? He is also been trying the explicitly make his final?
KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Making a final case, a closing message that he wants to deliver to these large crowds that are greeting him. This crowd here in Reno, Nevada. We anticipate that it will be hitting hard on the Clinton email controversy. He will be talking about booting the political trade, the economy, all of this message being delivered as part of a mad dash as he tries to hit as many states as possible.
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LAH (voice-over): The Trumps, side by side and Neck-in-Neck, North Carolina, a must-win state to hit 270. Melania Trump on charm offensive. A rare appearance on the campaign trail.
M. Trump: He is also compassionate, thoughtful, giving and loving. Donald cares --
LAH: Three days until Election Day, Donald Trump mostly on message, on script in North Carolina.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The Clinton family have made themselves rich by being in politics.
LAH: But earlier at his Tampa rally in crucial battleground Florida --
D. TRUMP: Future construction worker.
LAH: Donald Trump cast teleprompter Trump aside, lashing out at Hillary Clinton's celebrity support from Beyonce and Jay-Z, talking about Jay-Z's explicit rap lyrics.
D. TRUMP: We don't need Jay-Z to fill up arenas, you know. Should I use that language?
CROWD: No.
D. TRUMP: Can you imagine if I said that?
LAH: Of course, Trump has used plenty of other language that has landed him in trouble. Trump then pivoting back on script, pounding away at Clinton's Achilles heel, her use of a private email server.
D. TRUMP: If she were to win, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis.
LAH: The email controversy is central to the closing message Trump is toting as he zigzags across the country, visiting at least ten states between now and Monday, four to crucial battleground states. The states Trump can't hit will see this.
D. TRUMP: Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people.
LAH: And unconventional $4 million two-minute long ad. Trump's final national message will run during NCAA, NFL and NASCAR events this weekend and during major primetime programming before Tuesday.
D. TRUMP: The only thing that can stop this corrupt machine is you. The only force strong enough to save our country is us.
LAH: Trump also taking the conventional turns a Republican presidential candidate delivering the weekly Republican address.
D. TRUMP: It's time to close the history books on the Clintons and to open a bright new chapter focused on the great citizens of our country.
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LAH: This is Trump's last event of the day. He will end his day here in Reno. We are anticipating, Erin, that he will be here in just under an hour to deliver those closing remarks - Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, Kyung.
And we are going to be hearing Donald Trump live here on CNN tonight. We are going to be hearing Hillary Clinton and Katy Perry, all of that here tonight.
Now, let's go to David Chalian. He is OUTFRONT in Washington.
David, that new poll of polls obviously margin narrowing. I mean, you look at just in one day, we really are truly are here neck-and-neck. And what are the most likely paths to 270?
DAVID CHALIAN, CNN POLITICAL DIRECTOR: There's no doubt about that, Erin. Take a look again at that poll of polls hat you mentioned, three-point lead for Hillary Clinton, 46 percent to 43 percent. It doesn't get much closer than that. And that, of course, means that it is narrowing in some of the key states.
Now, we have talked before about Hillary Clinton's blue wall of defense here, right. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia. This is what gives her an advantage in the electoral map that those states are leaning her way.
But some late worry from team Clinton on Michigan. Remember, let's look at the most recent Michigan poll, 42 percent to 38 percent. Four point race in a state that Barack Obama won by nine points four years ago. So that is giving some heartburn there in Michigan.
Some better news for the Clinton campaign coming in Iowa. A brand-new poll there, 44 percent to 43 percent. Dead heat, second poll in as many weeks that shows a real dead heat in Iowa. We have it leaning red on our map. But the Clinton campaign see some possible, possible opportunity there.
And then, of course, in Nevada, they are getting some good news in the early vote in Nevada and they are feeling pretty good about that. So what does this mean for the path to 270, as you said? Well, because they are feeling good about Nevada, le's show Hillary Clinton's stat. She is at 268. Let's give her Nevada. That would get her over the hump. She would be at 274.
However, if indeed, Donald Trump is able to make inroads in to a place like Michigan where we are going to see Hillary Clinton go again, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama all in the next couple of days, not a state they thought they would be in. If he wins that, look at that, her number drops down to 258. So where does she go to get back over 270? Well, that's when she needs a state like North Carolina or Florida. Either one of those would do it. We are right back there looking at those two critical states on Tuesday night, Erin.
[19:11:27] BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, David Chalian.
OUTFRONT tonight Jamie Gangel, our special correspondent, John Avlon, editor in-chief of "the Daily Beast," Jackie Kucinich, the Washington Bureau chief of "the Daily Beast," former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, Clinton supporter Maria Cardona whose firm does work for a quote "Clinton Super Pac" and Alex Burns, national political reporter for "The New York Times."
Thanks to all. Let me start with you, Alex. Poll is tightening. And by the way in our polls of polls, which we like to look at as supposed to any individual poll. Obviously individual poll, you now have ones more. She is up by just one. But from five points to three in just one night, that is a very, very quick tightening here.
ALEX BURNS, NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER, NEW YORK TIMES: It certainly is. I mean, and I think it is why a lot of Democrats, when they look at the election calendar, they are glad the election is on Tuesday instead of three weeks from now. That there are places like Michigan, as David was just showing on the map that do appear to have tightened. But a four-point lead with only two full days of campaigning left is still a pretty significant lead.
And so what you're seeing now is Clinton sort of hopscotching across the map to states that vote exclusively on Election Day. There's no early voting. She has not been able to bank an advantage the way she has in Nevada to try to just juice the turnout at the last minute.
BURNETT: And John, this was interesting because, you know, he makes a point about four points. You know, George W. Bush won overall by, you know, when you look at overall, what was a mandate, obviously four points is a landslide. But in some of these states you are looking at just one point in the polls and there is a lot of states that you are looking at one point in the polls. It could go either way.
JOHN AVLON, EDITOR IN-CHIEF, THE DAILY BEAST: That's right. And look, obviously, you know, the election will be decided by electoral votes. If you are passed the post, you got all the electoral votes except in Main and Nebraska. But that's why the turnout game is going to be so important.
BURNETT: Yes.
AVLON: And this is something that the Democrats have an edge on. You know, the Hillary Clinton campaign, the campaign manager Robbie Mook, they specialize in get out to vote efforts and organization. That's not been Donald Trump's strength. It's been galvanizing a movement for the power of earned media. The question is whether that will translate on Election Day. That's the real thing to watch. Does organization beat its inspiration (ph)?
JAMIE GANGEL, CNN SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT: Enthusiasm for her organization. I just want to -- going back to what David said. All roads lead to Michigan, ladies and gentlemen. I mean, not only has the Clinton camp gone back there, they are bringing in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton is there tomorrow and Trump is going to be there. Ivanka is there. So everyone, they are really making an attempt for this.
I think there is one other state to talk about right now, which is Florida, which has been neck-and-neck. We are seeing the Hispanic vote lead going for her. Puerto Ricans who are Democratic voters who don't get to vote for president when they live in Puerto Rico but those who have moved to Florida, they can. The Democrats did a big job of registering them. And I think it will be quite an irony where we started this campaign with building a wall and what Donald Trump said about Mexicans if Puerto Ricans are not Mexicans. But if in the end Hispanics are the edge vote that bring her on top.
BURNETT: Right.
JACKIE KUCINICH, WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF, THE DAILY BEAST: And to your point in Florida, Cubans actually are not as excited about Donald Trump. They tend to be more Republican. But if you look at the new Univision poll, it's something like only 48 percent say that they are on board with Donald Trump. And, you know, 43 percent aren't really sure about him. So that -- that also is going to affect him.
BURNETT: So a lot of this comes down to game day, Corey. OK, that's what this comes down to. So maybe in some states it's already going to be too big of a gap to make up, maybe in others, not so much. But this what people look at Trump campaign. They go, just they go to ground game. They don't have ground game. They don't have as many offices. They are not going to be able to get as many people to the polls on Election Day. They are going to hurt them. Is that wrong?
[19:15:10] COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Look. I think let's see what have on Election Day. You know, it is the same argument that we heard in the primaries. Donald Trump has no ground game in New Hampshire, won by 16 points. No ground game in South Carolina, against the entire establishment, won by 20 points. Now ground game in Nevada, won out there by 18 points. I'm sure that that was a primary, a different electorate. But let's see. It was the same knock that he had in the primary.
Let's look at race. If Donald Trump doesn't win Florida, he cannot be the president of the United States. There's no question about that. But all of a sudden, the Trump campaign is on the offense. They are going to states that Hillary Clinton has pulled out of or had reduced her pie from in Virginia, in Colorado. Those states are now much closer.
If you look at the "Real Clear Politics" average, basically in order to get to 270, what was supposed to be an election landslide for Hillary Clinton now has the race at 216 for Hillary Clinton, 164 for Trump and 158 toss-up. That is going to be a close race. And it's going to come down Election Day. It is going to come down at Pennsylvania. New Hampshire states that you can't vote early in. So that's why you see both of the candidates spending a lot of time in those states.
BURNETT: So Maria, are you glad that there's only - really, let's just call it two days left, I mean, because we could county election is already voting this Saturday night here, so --
MARIA CARDONA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes, absolutely. And the Clinton campaign, and I have said this many times on this panel, should be concern because that's how you win, right. Complacency is how you lose. Going into this, let's remember, she has a four-point lead overall in
poll of polls or three points. And going into this four years ago, Barack Obama and Mitt Romney were tied. I think that Democrats, and especially this year, Hillary Clinton, has a huge advantage in Florida, Nevada, Colorado, even Arizona. And even places like Pennsylvania and Ohio where you have a smaller share of the Hispanic vote, but that, to me, is the hidden Hillary vote because they are not showing up on likely voter models. These public polls do not poll Hispanics because they don't use bilingual callers.
BURNETT: So each of the candidates are now trying to make their final arguments. You are going to see some big ads coming out.
Let's start with Donald Trump, OK. He put out a two-minute summary of everything that he stands for. Let me play just a brief clip for you.
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D. TRUMP: The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. For those who control the levers of power in Washington and for the global special interests, they partner with these people, that don't have your good in mind. The political establishment that is trying to stop us is the same group that's responsible for our disastrous trade deals.
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BURNETT: Effective? I mean, that is boiling down what has been the most effective and successful part of his argument.
KUCINICH: Exactly. And that's probably why they did it. But it doesn't take away all of the other things that have happened over the course of this election. So if you woke up from a slumber and you saw that and that's the only thing you saw, maybe you'll have one up on Donald Trump. But I think most people have seen the whole picture and are using that to weigh.
AVLON: This is the Rip Van Winkle story. Rip Van Winkle would vote for Donald Trump based on that ad. And it's a very good argument, right? It's his best argument. He is the outsider. He is taking on corruption in a way that appeals beyond traditional partisan boundaries. But as Jackie said, part of the tragedy of Donald Trump's campaign is that he has not campaigned on his strongest suit consistently. Instead, he has been divisive points in ways that do not help build the broader coalition he need to win the presidency.
BURNS: Donald Trump is obviously very, very successful at appealing to the white working class and to people who feel like they have gotten the short end of the stick. And as transition out of industrial economy. If you're an upscale, college-educated, white Republican professional living in the suburbs around Charlotte or Washington D.C. in Atlanta, maybe you work at a bank of America or another financial institution, that's not has really an ad that speaks to you. And these are people who Trump badly needs to come home if he is going to catch up with Clinton.
BURNETT: Although, as I imagine you're looking at polls, saying what, 81 percent of Republicans now support him, 83 percent of Democrats.
LEWANDOWSKI: But more importantly, right, look at the African- American vote that Donald Trump is getting. Look at the last two polls in Pennsylvania. Look at the poll in Michigan. He is getting between 15 and 19 percent of the African-American vote. And nationwide right, the African-American vote is actually much lower than what it was in historical --.
BURNETT: The polls you're referring to are not ones that we use here.
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LEWANDOWSKI: But if you look at it, right, if there's a 7.5 percent drop in African-American turnout in this election, that's one point overall for Hillary Clinton. That is very realistic that the African- American turnout is not going to be what it was in historical proportions. Moreover, Donald Trump is receiving a higher percentage of the black vote. That should be very troubling for that so-called Obama coalition that she can't put together.
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KUCINICH: It's part of her new coalition that she has building throughout --
LEWANDOWSKI: If you're going to rely on the entire Hispanic coalition, then --
KUCINICH: No, no, no. Coalition is more than one thing.
LEWANDOWSKI: It's not a giant Hispanic population there that is now going to be supporting Hillary.
[19:20:01] CARDONA: It's not Hispanic coalition. It's the new Hillary coalition which will include high numbers of the African- American vote. Maybe not a numbers that Obama got, but come on. You know, the first --
BURNETT: What do you mean not the numbers that Obama got? I mean, I think --That's not going to happen.
CARDONA: We have got to be real about that. Historic numbers of Asian-Americans, which we haven't really talked about, college- educated white voters, especially college-educated white women and frankly, I think Republican who is are going to turn around and vote for Hillary. There was a poll that was done, a survey of early voters in Florida, William and Mary, that said that 28 percent of early voters that had already voted, 28 percent of Republicans had voted for Hillary Clinton.
LEWANDOWSKI: It is actually know where to know if that's true or not unless they have counted the ballots which they haven't. Moreover, Donald Trump is winning married, white women and Hillary is losing those people.
(CROSSTALK) AVLON: I mean, look, we will really have a definitive sense of who's right and who's wrong in two days' time. But the fact that Donald Trump is campaigning in states that haven't voted for a Republican since Reagan's landslide in 1984, that either is incredibly bold, audacious, shock the world brilliant or it's really, really odd and it's going to look foolish in two days' time. Because let's also not forget, because of the percentage of Hispanics in some western states, Donald Trump has played defense in states usually Republicans don't need to worry about. That's where these make these final hours so fasten.
BURNETT: That's' so important. And of course, it shows that strategy needs to change somehow. Either going to be a huge mistake or genius. Thanks to you all. But, of course, you are staying with me through the evening tonight.
Next, pictures of what will soon be a big Katy Perry concert. That's Hillary Clinton in Philadelphia. You will be going there live tonight.
Plus, Clinton with her double-digit lead a month ago slipping. Could Trump turn Michigan?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need this to happen. We understand that this is t grassroots movement.
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BURNETT: And our Arwa Damon trapped in Mosul after her convoy was attacked by ISIS fighters.
You're watching a special of OUTFRONT this Saturday.
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[19:25:47] BURNETT: Welcome back to a special edition of OUTFRONT.
Three days until Election Day, Hillary Clinton's campaign admitting they are seeing a tightening in Michigan which really is in a sense for Donald Trump a must-win state. He has got to turn some states. This is the ones he has identified this, perhaps, the most likely. And a new poll there shows Clinton's lead that was 11 points a month ago is now only four. Clinton has to hold her ground in the one probably blue state. She has a new ad out, as you can see, a little bit here playing and she is also on the trail there again, and again.
Trump by the way also trying to capitalize. His camp has been storming Michigan. He's going to go there again. Can Trump turn the state red?
Jessica Schneider is OUTFRONT. She's in Detroit tonight.
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D. TRUMP: I hear we're doing great in Michigan. We are going to win Michigan.
JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's a state that has voted solidly Democrat in the last six presidential election. But the Trump campaign is convinced it still in play. Trump's family hitting the ground hard in the final stretch.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are going to win this again. And we are going to win --.
SCHNEIDER: Ivanka speaking at a women's forum this week. Donald Junior holding court on college campuses and Eric thanking volunteers. He stopped by this grassroots campaign office 30 minutes outside of Detroit.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are going to win Michigan. The amount of signs is incredible.
SCHNEIDER: Clinton's team now say campaign signs don't equate votes. What do you say about that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We will see on Tuesday. And we will see on Tuesday.
SCHNEIDER: open this office back in August. Together with several other women, they have spent tens of thousands of their own money to support Trump.
You're putting a lot of your own money into this. Why?
MESHAWN MADDOCK, WOMEN FOR TRUMP: Absolutely. We need this to happen. We understand that this is a grassroots movement.
MARIAN SHERIDAN, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER: We see Democrats coming in, we see independents, we see the people coming in who have never voted before and they are going, I'm voting this time.
SCHNEIDER: These two volunteers say they have made nearly 4,000 phone calls combined in the past week.
Can Donald Trump really win this state?
GABRIEL COSTANZO, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER: Absolutely. I mean, especially over the past week. There's been a significant shift in the feedback from the voters. It is I'm voting for Trump. My neighbors are voting for Trump.
SCHNEIDER: In the final week of the campaign, Donald Trump and the RNC spending about $900,000 on ads in Michigan. Hillary Clinton and the super PACs behind her pouring in $2.3 million.
The unexpected race in Michigan has the Clinton campaign on the move. Bill Clinton made a surprise stop at Detroit this week. Bernie Sanders stopped in two spots around the state and Clinton surrogates continues to talk her up to supporters.
SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D), MICHIGAN: And we have people all around the block here. Thousands of people standing in line.
SCHNEIDER: The Trump campaign, though, saying that Hillary camp is panicking. Are they?
STABENOW: No, absolutely not. They are in wishful thinking on their part.
SCHNEIDER: Hundreds waited for Clinton at her Detroit rally on Friday. The head of a local charter school saying he is doing what he can to get out to vote.
ROGER SIMMONS, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER: We are making sure that the kids are out here and make sure their parents know they have to vote for Hillary. Go Hillary.
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SCHNEIDER: And both campaigns are suddenly focused on Michigan for two reasons. First, heightening poll numbers show that Trump is gaining momentum. And, second, there isn't any early voting here. So Erin, those campaigns need to make sure that their bases continue to be excited. And they need to ensure that those voters actually get out to the polls one day only on Tuesday - Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, Jessica.
My panel is back with me.
All right. So let me start with you, Jamie. Because on this point, when you look at Michigan, it's not just that it's been narrowing, but this issue of undecideds. It is the 13 percent of the voters in the Michigan undecided. The margin in the poll is four.
GANGEL: And there is a plus or minus -- the margin of error there is four, too. So I'm sure she is happier to be four up. But you have 13 percent undecided in Michigan. Will they stay home because they can't decide? Where will they go? That's the reason. Everybody and their husband and their daughter and they can get are going to Michigan.
KUCINICH: And that's why the email thing actually matters. That's why what Comey did last week with the undecided voters, maybe they are Republicans who were going to vote for Hillary and now they are not so sure. That's why it's making an impact.
[19:30:02] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because you see among a small group of voters --
AVLON: Sure. Because it would reinforces all of Hillary's negatives, not only from this cycle but the much bigger ones. And so, that's why that matters.
But let's just talk for second about undecided, OK. Because it's hard to imagine that this stage of this campaign, between these two candidates, that there's still sizeable -- people say, you know what? I just don't know. So I think its a couple different things. One, it's an undecided that decline the state. I know but I'm not going to tell you. I could get that, right.
BURNETT: I.e., a hidden Trump voter.
AVLON: Or hidden Hillary in a conserve enter, which is possible.
BURNETT: Yes.
AVLON: Is it (INAUDIBLE) a Jill Stein and a Hillary or Gary Johnston and then Donald Trump? But you know, if the 14 percent, I want to see that national number and then get some insight at the real race.
BURNETT: So another reason that people could being undecided is that they hate them both, OK, and they may not vote at all or they may end up making a choice.
We spoke with two undecided women in North Carolina and here is what they said.
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CASSANDRA JONES, NORTH CAROLINA UNDECIDED VOTER: I have never seen an election time when we've had so polar opposite candidates where I can't decide which is the lesser of two evils almost.
LEE EDSALL, NORTH CAROLINA UNDECIDED VOTER: I just have some concerns and reservations about some of her positions. So for me, it's going to boil down to, you know, are those reservations enough that I would write in another candidate or in the end am I comfortable enough to choose her.
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BURNETT: So Maria, these are two women, OK. So they are not just running to Hillary Clinton. And in fat, one of them is an African- American woman who is saying lesser of two evils.
CARDONA: Obviously I don't agree with her.
BURNETT: Right.
CARDONA: But I think this is a big reason why Hillary Clinton and the campaign is making such a big push not just with Hillary but with surrogates, right. President Obama, hugely popular not just in general but obviously with the African-American community. There were a couple of interviews that were done yesterday of people who were undecided before they went to see the president at a rally and they came out of there deciding to vote for Hillary.
So surrogates matter, at least the kind of surrogates that Hillary has. They I think focus on specific demographics that they speak to. And every single one of those arguments is going to matter in the next 72 hours.
BURNETT: So, are you still counting on these undecided voters, whether it's 13 percent in Michigan, 20 percent in the U.S. state today has for Hispanics which is surprisingly high as well? Do you really believe these are real?
LEWANDOWSKI: Look, there's clearly a percentage of the electorate that is undecided. The question is, in the states like Michigan, where Donald Trump's message has been one that bad trade deals of the past multiple administration that hurt you and you see your jobs disappear. I'm going to bring your jobs back, that plays very well on the state like Michigan.
Don't forget, that was a state that was doing very well when the car industry was booming. All of the sudden, there is a clap (ph) that comes back and Donald Trump says I'm going to bring those jobs back. So if those people were undecided to whether they were traditionally blue collar workers who are working in those factories, are still undecided today, at the end of the day, this is what Election Day is all about. It is turning out and making sure your people show up.
BURNETT: And it is about Election Day in a lot of ways.
All of you, stay with me because Election Day is the only day you can vote in many crucial states, one of them Pennsylvania. Because it comes as Democrats are crisscrossing the country trying to shore up support in some of those key swing states that you cannot vote early in. One of them, as I said, is Pennsylvania, which is where a New York congressman Hakeem Jeffries is spending the weekend campaigning and he joins me now.
Congressman, thank you very much for taking the time. Tonight, big night. Your candidate out there. Katy Perry out there in Pennsylvania, where you are, trying to get the vote out for Hillary Clinton.
OK, latest polling we have, congressman, Clinton beating Trump by four points, the previous poll, same poll, poll-to-poll, Hillary Clinton was up by ten. Are you concerned you've lost the momentum?
HAKEEM JEFFRIES (D), NEW YORK CITY: Not at all. This is a tight race all across the country. That's to be expected, Erin, because this is a 50/50 country, closely divided, polarized America that we have right now. But Hillary Clinton clearly has the momentum going into the final days of the election. I would much rather be in her position than in Donald Trump's position where he is playing catch-up al; across United States of America here in Pennsylvania.
I was in Philadelphia earlier today. Now I'm in Harrisburg. There's a tremendous outpouring of volunteer support. A lot enthusiasm on the ground. People understand the states. There's no early voting here in Pennsylvania. So everyone is gearing up to come out on November 8th.
BURNETT: Now, CNN has partnered with Catalyst. And basically it is a data company. They work with progressive candidates to get information on early voting. And obviously, as you pointed out, there's no early voting in Pennsylvania but there is another must-win states like North Carolina.
When President Obama was on the top of the ticket, it was very different picture on early voting. Black turnout is down this time in the crucial states like North Carolina, like Florida, like Georgia. I don't know if you just heard there, we spoke to an undecided African- American woman in North Carolina and her comment on her choices was, who am I going to choose, who is the lesser of two evils? Are you worried about a lack of enthusiasm in the African-American community that the vote is just not going to be the way that it was for Barack Obama?
JEFFRIES: Well, first of all, it's going to be very difficult to approximate the level of enthusiasm that African-American voters had for Barack Obama in neither 2008 nor 2012. That was a Jackie Robinson moment for the African-American community for America in general when President Obama was elevated in 2008.
However, what I'm saying is that there's an increase degree in enthusiasm. The closer that we get to the election. And in fact, Erin, when you look at the early voting numbers in North Carolina and Florida, we've seen increased intensity over the last few days. The closer that we get to decision time and people realize the stakes. I mean, Hillary Clinton clearly is going to continue the Obama legacy. Build upon the great this that he has done and keep the country moving forward. And Donald Trump is a frightening candidate for many in the African-American community, in the Latino community, in the Asian- American community. And I think that fact is going to be reflected in the numbers that we see the closer that we get.
[19:35:45] BURNETT: Hillary Clinton has repeatedly criticized Donald Trump for his language on the campaign trail. And, in particular, his language about women and what he said on that "Access Hollywood" tape. Last night, Jay-Z sang songs with multiple profanities at a Clinton rally. Let me just play for you a clip of what we actually heard last night on the campaign from Jay-Z. (JAY-Z PERFORMING)
BURNETT: Those profanities, some of them are words that I could never speak on television. Jay-Z, of course, was using language that demeaned women for years after Trump's "Access Hollywood" tape and Trump says that proves Hillary is a hypocrite. Here is what Trump said about Jay-Z's performance last night.
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D. TRUMP: He used language last night that was so bad and then Hillary said I did not like Donald Trump's lewd language. My lewd language. I tell you what, I have never said what he said in my life. But that shows you the phoniness of politicians.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: Congressman, does he have a point? Is there hypocrisy here?
JEFFRIES: Not at all. First of all, I have got great respect for Jay-Z. He is the hometown guy. We are both from Clinton. But he in entertaining. He is an entrepreneur. He is hip-hop mogul. Donald Trump is a candidate for the presidency of the United States of America. Of course he should be held to a different standard. He is going to be someone that if elected, it would be in charge of the nuclear codes and would be the leader of the free world.
And so to suggest that he should be compared to Jay-Z, a rapper, is really nonsensical and suggests to me, Erin, that Donald Trump is really desperate. He is reaching. He should be articulating for the American people and instead he's criticizing he surrogates who are in the campaign trail such as Jay-Z and J. Lo doesn't make any sense. And it suggests to me how unprepared he is to assume the presidency.
BURNETT: Is she, though, responsible? You know, I still like we do criticize people for their surrogates and what they say. You know, we hold Donald Trump to account when a white supremacist supporter does robo calls and asked him denounce it. And this isn't a supporter, this is a surrogate in the form of Jay-Z. So in that sense, it does seems that he should be held to account for using some of the language that he used last night.
JEFFRIES: Well, listen. It's entertainment. And you know, I'm not familiar with all of the lyrics that were used last night. Certainly there seemed to be several bleeps in the clip that you just played. But at the end of the day, he is happily married to Beyonce. His wife was there. They are raising a young daughter together. He has contributed to the community in numerous ways in New York City and beyond, often without seeking fanfare. And you compare that to someone like Donald Trump who sort of started his career in the real estate industry with a discrimination lawsuit brought by, of all people, the Nixon justice department and continued his parade of horrible all the way through him leading the birther movement saying that Barack Obama was born outside the United States of America.
So we can talk about surrogates. And certainly I wouldn't even compare Jay-Z to the KKK and David Duke and white supremacist and all of the haters throughout the United States of America who are supporting the Donald Trump campaign.
BURNETT: Congressman, thank you very much for your time tonight. I appreciate it.
CNN will be bringing you all-day coverage of Election Day. Don't miss the moment this Tuesday every second.
And next, we are standing by, Donald Trump is about to appear live in Nevada as house speaker Paul Ryan struggling to fully support the party's nominee is now campaigning for him today. Ryan telling voters, I voted for Donald Trump, using his name.
And our Arwa Damon, who convoy attacked, trapped inside in Mosul during the height of the battle against ISIS. Her harrowing story coming up on this special edition of OUTFRONT.
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[19:43:37] BURNETT: Ambushed by ISIS. Tonight, CNN's Arwa Damon and her photographer, Bryce Labe, are safe after a terrifying 24 hours while embedded with Iraqi forces who are storming Mosul, the ISIS stronghold. ARWA and her convoy came under attack. They were surrounded by heavily armed ISIS fighters. They were pinned down overnight. That was when backup forces finally were able to rescue them.
Arwa detailing the chaos, writing in part, gunfire all over, is nonstop. Filled with the smell of gunfire from the shooting outside. Voice in is radio frequency. I am surrounded. Well, now Arwa Damon is OUTFRONT tonight, our senior foreign correspondent in ordeal safe.
And Arwa, that is miraculous as people were hear with you went through and your crew, the bravery, what happened to you. Let's start with the moment you and you crew were forced from your vehicles. Is making you get out. What happened at that moment?
ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the convoy that we were in -- and we were with the Iraqi counter terrorism troops, got split in half by an ISIS to ambush and they began to systematically target all of the vehicles on either end of the convoy. Basically, shrinking the area that the Iraqis and us were located. And this was done by small arm fire, RPGs, car bombs. And they managed to precisely target each of these vehicles, eventually targeting ours. And we could hear the hiss of the tires going out. It was a fairly chaotic situation. And then we, too, along with the solders we were with had to basically leave the vehicle behind. It was immobilized. We couldn't move in any direction and take cover from a house. And the core group from there, we were moved from one house to another and the core group we were with -- and this is what is quite striking in all of this, most of them were wounded, Erin. We were with about 22 wounded Iraqi soldiers, six who were not, who basically had to hold these positions we were in, the final position where we overnighted in. They had ammo that was running out. They were trying to call in for backup. Backup couldn't come because the backup battalions were and also running into resistance from ISIS. And then when we woke up in the morning, Erin, the fighting began once again. And it was unspeakably intense.
The gunfire was coming from all sides. It seems that there were ISIS fighters that were holed up in the house, right behind the one that we were staying and throwing grenades over the wall, soldiers were wounded in that incident. An air strike finally came in and pinpoint precision here, took out that house. We later found out there were eight ISIS fighters inside. There were two on the rooftop. There were six on the back-roads. And these Iraqis, they were fighting despite the fact that they were wounded. They were really up against challenging odds, to say the least. And all of us were very fortunate. But I think, you know, it also bears remembering that we only did this for 24 hours. We are safe right now. They are still out there fighting and those families are still living in fear, cowering in their staircases as this all unfolds around them.
[19:46:46] BURNETT: I mean, Arwa, this is stunning, you know. You have been in a lot of very frightening situations, OK. You have risked your life to bring these stories to people around the world. But at that moment, when you were first attacked by ISIS and then you're going from safe house to safe house, did you really think that this was it, that this was the time that you would die?
DAMON: You know, you do end up in these situations where you're constantly wondering if it is that moment. And I have to say this was the most intense, terrifying situation that I have personally been in where you don't question one incident that happens to you and wonder if it was that moment. You actually have an ongoing series of terrifying moments that really heighten your sense of fear.
And, yes, you do ask yourself, have I crossed the line this time? Because you do have moments of brief respite where you think maybe it is over, but then it starts all over again and the children are crying. And to hear a little boy scream out loud, "I don't want to die," to watch his parents. That you've overnighted with run out of their home in bare feet to try to get to their neighbor's because they think they will be safe there, those are the images that say with you those moments. And this is just the beginning of the battle for Mosul.
BURNETT: Now, the scenes that you have been describing, Arwa, are terrifying and also heartbreaking. You actually witnessed at one point during the 24-hour siege a cab driver shot and killed as he was running towards you and towards Iraqi forces. What happened at that moment?
DAMON: That was actually unfolding in the very initial stages of this ambush counter attack by ISIS. Bearing in mind that one of the greatest concerns for the troops is attacks by suicide car bombers. And this taxi came down a road where the troops had already been receiving incoming fire from. They yelled at him to stop. He stopped. Then he came out of the vehicle. One soldier shouted get down. The other one shouted come towards us. They assumed he was a suicide bomber or at least that the vehicle itself was packed with explosives. They opened fired. They then dragged him back, tried to treat him and he died on the side of the road.
Now, they still suspect that he was trying to attack them but bottom line is, they don't know who he is and this really goes to the chaos of the situation. The fact that -- and in a lot of these scenarios, the soldiers are assuming that the people coming towards them, especially if they are driving and vehicle, especially because of the threats that they face are enemies which is why they are trying to tell come out onto the streets because they can't differentiate between friend or foe. And in those situation, you don't have the luxury of time either.
BURNETT: Arwa, you know, you obviously were not alone. Your cameraman was there with you during all of this. How is he doing?
DAMON: Yes, (INAUDIBLE). He is good. We are both good. We are both grateful that we were able to get out. We are both, you know, talking about what we went through and what we really reflect on quite a bit is the fact that these soldiers didn't just go through this one day. They have actually been fighting ISIS perhaps not in battles as intense for the last two years.
We are also talking about the fact that this is just the beginning of the fight for Mosul. And it is as tough, based on what we have witnessed so far, if not tougher than we or the troops themselves could have possibly imagined. [19:50:26] BURNETT: All right. Arwa Damon, thank you so much for
telling your story. And I think really giving people a totally different perspective than they had on this war that is going on right now in Mosul.
Thank you. Incredible reporting from Arwa.
And next, Donald Trump's turbulent relationship with Paul Ryan, the house speaker for weeks avoiding using Trump's name. Is Ryan finally coming around just hours before the voting? This is a special edition of OUTFRONT.
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[19:54:33] BURNETT: Welcome back to a special edition of OUTFRONT.
Live pictures of Philadelphia. Hillary Clinton about to kick off a rally with singer Katy Perry tonight. We are going to bring that to you live as it begins this hour. Donald Trump is speaking in Reno in the next hour.
You are going also see that here on CNN. With just three days to go until Election Day, Clinton and Trump are crisscrossing the country and their top surrogates are out too including a surmising one for the Republican ticket. House speaker Paul Ryan,
Manu Raju is OUTFRONT.
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[19:55:00] MANU RAJU, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER (voice-over): It was only a few weeks ago that Paul Ryan said he would not campaign with Donald Trump. But on Saturday, the house speaker sharing the stage with Trump's running mate, Mike Pence.
MIKE PENCE (R), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He is mine. Paul Ryan is one of the great conservative leaders in the United States of America. And Wisconsin should be proud.
RAJU: Trump supporters in the Wisconsin crowd were restless.
REP. PAUL RYAN (R), HOUSE SPEAKER: Facing this country. I'm getting there. Just wait. I'm getting there. Let me talk to you about the issues.
RAJU: And Ryan made clear he was supporting the Republican nominee when he cast his ballot.
RYAN: I walked in to the city hall in Janesville, Wisconsin, about two weeks ago and I cast my ballot. I voted for Donald Trump and Mike Pence. I voted for Ron Johnson. I voted for every Republican I saw on the ballots. Do you know why I did that? Because Republicans, it is time to come home and go out and vote.
RAJU: Ryan has struggled to come to terms with Trump's controversial candidacy, initially refusing to back him. Ryan later endorsed Trump, even as he sharply criticized him,
RYAN: Claiming a person can't do their job because of their race is sort of like a textbook definition of a racist comment.
RAJU: In the aftermath of last month's leak of a video where Trump talked crudely about groping women, Ryan inform house Republicans on a conference call he could not defend Trump anymore and would instead would focus on saving GOP majorities in Congress.
Trump letting loose on twitter calling Ryan weak and ineffective and in public the GOP nominee repeatedly bashing the Republican speaker.
Maybe he wants to run in four years. Maybe he just doesn't know how to win.
Reporter: Ryan's position frustrating Trump supporters won his Republican conference. Telling CNN, I thought it was an error on Paul's part, some like Oklahoma congressman going further, threatening to vote against Ryan's bid to win re-election as speaker and other hoe conservatives using their votes as leverage over the speaker.
D. TRUMP: Maybe once through run in four years? Or maybe he doesn't know how to win. Maybe just doesn't know to win.
RYAN: Ryan's position frustrating Trump supporter within his house Republican conference.
Congressman Kevin Kramer of North Dakota telling CNN I thought it was an error on Paul's part. Some like Oklahoma congressman Jim Bridenstine going further, threatening to vote against Ryan's bid to win reelection as speaker. And other house conservatives using their votes as leverage over the speaker.
JAKE TAPPER, CNN CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Will you back Paul Ryan in his bid to continue serving as speaker of the house?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I don't know the answer to that yet.
RAJU: Has deep support bolstered by his relentless fundraising to keep the Republican in their hands. Now saying he wants total GOP control in Washington|, including the White House.
RYAN: I want us to win it. We are offering what the unified Republican government can achieve.
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RAJU: And Erin, the reason why Pence and Ryan were campaigning together was to help republican senator Ron Johnson win in this increasingly tight senate race in Wisconsin. But in the house's side, official in both parties believe Republicans will lose seats on Tuesday but probably keep their majority. And that could be a challenge for Ryan in the new Congress because there would be fewer moderates in a more emboldened conservative wing. And with an error of majority, Ryan cannot afford many big factions from conservatives, Erin, if he was to win the 280 votes he needs to be reelected speaker in January - Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Manu, thank you.
And next, we are going to go live to Donald Trump's rally in Nevada, about to start any moment.
Stay with us for another hour of OUTFRONT, our special election edition.
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