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Criminal Gangs Torture Migrants And Hold Them For Ransom; Schumer Outlines Democratic Offer To End Shutdown; World Leaders Meet In Amazonian City Of Belem Before COP30; Kalmaegi Downgraded After Slamming Into Vietnam; Typhoon Fung-Wong Set To Hit Philippines This Weekend; Kendrick Lamar Leads Grammys With Nine Nominations. U.S. Government Shutdown Causes Delays and Cancellations at Airports Across the U.S.; President Trump Hosts Hungarian Prime Minister Orban; CNN Investigation Reveals Beijing's Massive Expansion in Military Capabilities. Aired 2:00-3p ET

Aired November 07, 2025 - 14:00   ET

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NICK WATT, HOST, ISA SOARES TONIGHT: A warm welcome to the show, everyone, I'm Nick Watt in for Isa Soares. Tonight, delays and cancellations at

airports across the United States as the government shutdown takes its toll. We'll have the very latest on the growing travel chaos.

Also, President Trump says he's looking at exemptions for Hungary when it comes to Russian oil sanctions. We're live from the White House as those

two leaders meet. Plus, is China ringing in a new arms race? A CNN investigation reveals Beijing is massively expanding its military

capabilities. That and much more ahead.

Canceled flights, long delays, frayed nerves, all in abundance at major U.S. airports right now. Eight hundred flights were canceled today

according to the flight tracking service, FlightsAware, international flights are OK and exempt from the cutbacks for now, but this is only the

beginning.

If the record-length government shutdown collides with the traditionally busy holiday season, things will only get worse. The Trump administration

has ordered a 4 percent reduction in flights today, and that figure will rise to 10 percent if the shutdown continues into next week. All of this

naturally leaving travelers on edge.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can't imagine an airport like this that is so busy, all those flights being canceled. So, I'm nervous.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We'll be able to get back on Tuesday.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would you be open to getting a backup ticket?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You had to have backup money. I don't have that.

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WATT: The Chief Operating Officer for American Airlines had a blunt message for members of Congress on day 38 of this shutdown.

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DAVID SEYMOUR, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, AMERICAN AIRLINES: Let me be clear. We need to get the government reopened. We need to get this aviation

system back. And I implore our members of Congress to get together and get the government reopened so we can get back to normalcy. Aviation is super

critical to this nation. It's super critical to our traveling public.

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WATT: Our Arlette Saenz is on Capitol Hill for us. But first to CNN's Jason Carroll, who is at Newark International Airport, one of the busiest

in the country. Jason, what's going on there right now?

JASON CARROLL, CNN U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Nick, as you can imagine, we've heard from a lot of frustrated passengers this morning. We

can also tell you that there have been staffing shortages at the control tower here at Newark Airport. And when you talk about that 4 percent

reduction, of course, you're talking about what the FAA ended up doing today because of that reduction.

They ended up cutting flights at 40 of the busiest airports all over the United States, like this one here at Newark, but not just Newark, it's JFK,

it's Miami, it's Atlanta, it's Los Angeles, it's places like Memphis and Orlando. I mean, chances are, Nick, if you know someone who is traveling

today, there's a good chance they may have been impacted by all of this.

And certainly, we've spoken to a number of passengers, some of whom decided to forget the airports altogether, and just to go with driving instead.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm renting a car. I have to be back in Utah by Tuesday, and from what I hear with the counters, the airline counters and

TSA, they literally said to me, if I were you, I wouldn't travel over the next three days.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They said, yes, you're still going to be flying out at 10 O'clock, well, of course, 10 O'clock came and --

CARROLL: This is 10 O'clock last night --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ten O'clock at night --

CARROLL: OK --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then they said cancel flight.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But it wasn't even on the board, and we just went to an agent and they looked it up and they said, nope, that's canceled too.

And of course, the whole board, there were so many cancellations. So, we're going to just rent a car and drive.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, well, we ended up getting a hotel --

CARROLL: So drive from -- drive from where?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From here to Wilmington, North Carolina. People are really hurting out here, and it's not just the traveling public, but it's

affecting the whole economy. And you people are to blame.

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CARROLL: And Nick, obviously, when he said, you people, he's talking about lawmakers who have been unable to come to some sort of an agreement and end

this government shutdown. And when you -- when you think about what's happening at the airlines, they're responding to this too, Delta canceling

170 flights, United 200, American Airlines canceling 220 flights, Southwest Airlines canceling 100 flights.

And it's just Friday. If things aren't settled, a lot of people concerned about what could happen over the weekend and beyond. Nick?

WATT: Jason, thanks very much. I want to bring in Arlette now. Any glimmer of hope from where you are that the root cause of this might be coming to

an end any time soon?

ARLETTE SAENZ, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Nick, the situation still remains very fluid up here on Capitol Hill. We actually just learned

that Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer will speak on the Senate floor around 230 to present a unified Democratic counter-offer to what

Republicans have been talking about in recent days.

Republicans had really coalesced around this plan to try to pass another Stopgap Funding Bill that would fund the government for several weeks, in

addition to passing three appropriations bills to deal with three key agencies for funding for the next year. Now, in those talks, what had been

discussed between Democrats and Republicans was setting a firm vote date on the extension of the expiring Obamacare subsidies.

But Democrats in this fight really yesterday came to the conclusion that they wanted to try to hold out for more firm commitments from the GOP

relating to those Obamacare subsidies. What they're concerned about is that if they hold a vote, there's no guarantee from Republicans that it's going

to pass. It would pass the House and that President Trump would sign it into law.

So, we're still waiting to hear from Senator Schumer what exactly the contours of this new counteroffer will be. But earlier today, Senate

Majority leader John Thune told reporters that these conversations with Democrats really went off the rails after yesterday. We've heard from

Democrats that they feel following the momentum of Tuesday's Democratic sweep in the elections, that they believe that their voters want them to do

more to fight in this government shutdown standoff.

But right now, it doesn't appear that there is a clear resolution to this, but we will see whether what Schumer presents in the coming hour, whether

that might be palatable to Republicans or if that's going to send people back to the drawing board.

WATT: Thanks a lot, Arlette. Jason, if you're still there, I just want to follow up with you quickly. I mean, we heard from the Trump administration

that these numbers that they put on it, that these, you know, reductions in air traffic, for they say, safety reasons, that that's not an exact

science. I mean, is there a frustration amongst passengers, not just because of the causes -- not because of the causes of this shutdown, but

also kind of how this is now being handled?

CARROLL: Without question. I mean, you heard some of that frustration there, Nick. And in addition to that, it's not just frustration, but it's

also so much concern about everything that's happening now around the travel industry. I mean, these boards here don't really reflect everything

that's going on. They show that these flights are taking off.

They are at this point from New York -- from Newark Airport, many of them taking off on time. But what these boards don't show are the vast number of

people who just decided, you know what? I'm not going to even chance coming to the airport. I'm just going to end up canceling my flight because I

don't want to risk coming here and then being delayed.

So, they're canceling their trips. They're canceling their travel plans. And so, a lot of that is happening, too behind the scenes away from these

airports. And that's adding into all of this as well. So, again, yes, frustration here on the ground, and still so much concern among the general

public that a lot of folks are just canceling their travel plans outright because they just don't want to take the chance.

WATT: I hear them, Jason Carroll and Arlette Saenz, thank you both very much for your time. Turning now to the White House where President Trump is

meeting with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. Mr. Orban is a long- time ally of the U.S. President, as both leaders hold similar anti- immigration stances.

However, there are now tensions over Hungary's reliance on Russian oil and gas. The far-right Prime Minister wants an exemption from U.S. sanctions

against Russian energy. Here is what Mr. Trump had to say on the matter a little earlier today.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're looking at it because it's very difficult for him to get the oil and gas from other areas. As you

know, they don't have -- they don't have the advantage of having sea. It's a great country. It's a big country. But they don't have sea, they don't

have the ports.

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And so, they have a difficult problem. There's another country that has that same problem by the way. But when you look at what's happened with

Europe, many of those countries, they don't have those problems, and they buy a lot of oil and gas from Russia. And as they know, I'm very disturbed

by that because we're helping them and they're going and buying oil and gas from Russia.

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WATT: Let's get straight to our senior White House correspondent, Kristen Holmes. Kristen, Viktor Orban has been talking a big game this morning,

talking about a new golden age potentially of relations with the U.S., calling his country a special island of difference in an otherwise liberal

Europe. Is President Trump being as enthusiastic?

KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I mean, from what we saw, it certainly sounded like President Trump was more than willing to

likely give those exemptions when it came to Orban and Hungary. He gave no indication that he was going to try and force them.

He gave a lot of reasons why he would give an exemption instead, and in some ways, this isn't that surprising, especially given the fact, as you

noted, the two men often compliment each other, and not only have they met while Trump was in office the first time, they also met at Mar-a-lago

multiple times while Trump was out of office, including right after President Trump was re-elected, when he was the then President-elect.

President Trump often talks about how Orban is complimentary of him and praises the fact that he is a strong man. So, this is not that surprising.

But what was slightly surprising was the fact that President Trump seemed eager to throw European allies under the bus, saying that it's actually

them that are the problem, not Hungary.

And just to give you some data here, it was the reliance for Hungary on Russian oil has only gone up since the Ukrainian war started. It used to be

around 61 percent after that war had started, it went up to 86 percent reliance. So, this really matters to this country. And that would be a huge

expenditure if these tariffs -- excuse me, if these sanctions were to go in place, and Hungary did not have that exemption.

And the other thing I want to point out here is, they had this kind of back-and-forth over the war in Ukraine in which we heard Hungary almost

parrot Russian talking points by saying that European allies like Ukraine want the war to continue going because they think Ukraine can win. And that

is not any indication that we have gotten from these European leaders who have been supplying ammo and weapons to Ukraine to protect themselves, not

to keep this war going.

And so, that was an interesting part of all this. We know Orban is good friends with Vladimir Putin; the Russian President, as well as President

Trump. And one of the things that had been scheduled to happen was another summit between President Trump and President Putin in Hungary, and the

reason they chose that location was because of the fact that Orban is a mutual friend.

Now, President Trump canceled that, then imposed these sanctions. But he was asked about it today, and he said it could happen. They were going to

talk about it later. They were going to talk about it when they talk about the war. But he didn't close that door forever. A reminder that he ended

the idea of having this summit because all of the various leaders on both sides were telling them that Russia hadn't -- Russia hadn't moved the

needle at all when it came to Ukraine war. But now he seems more open to it again.

WATT: Great. Kristen Holmes at the White House, thank you very much for your time. U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth vows there will be further

strikes on what he calls narco-terrorists at sea, despite accusations that these attacks amount to extrajudicial killings. Hegseth released this video

of the latest strike.

Without giving any evidence, he said the boat was trafficking drugs in the Caribbean, and three people on board were killed. The Trump administration

has now attacked 18 boats, killing 70 people, saying it's a, quote, "armed conflict with cartels bringing drugs into the United States, which is now

building up military assets in the region.

And even authorized CIA operations inside Venezuela, accusing President Nicolas Maduro of fueling the drug trade. The Republican-led Senate in the

U.S. yesterday rejected a resolution to stop military action against Venezuela without congressional approval. One Democrat said it was meant to

send a message.

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SEN. CHRIS VAN HOLLEN (D-MD): The message all of us should send to the President of United States is quit engaging in illegal actions in the

Caribbean and international waters, blowing up boats and people in an extrajudicial fashion. And when it comes to Venezuela, stop making these

threats and amassing military assets off the shore and claiming you somehow have the authority to do that.

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WATT: Let's get more now from Kylie Atwood in Washington. So, lots of threats, but Kylie, any indication of any potential actual action beyond

these attacks on the boats?

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KYLIE ATWOOD, CNN U.S. SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: In terms of coming from the administration, no, not exactly. There are some in the administration who

privately acknowledged that the pressure campaign that they have built up and the operations that they have carried out could then lead to something

more, could then lead to potential land strikes inside Venezuela. Pressure directly inside Venezuela to oust Maduro.

And that is what Congress was trying to prevent the Trump administration from potentially moving towards with that resolution yesterday with Senator

Schiff, who is one of the senators who led that resolution, effectively making the case that what the administration has done with its military

buildup in the Caribbean right now doesn't appear to be in line with what is actually being carried out in terms of actions that are taken.

He believes that they are actually having this military buildup in order to take military action inside of Venezuela. He was trying to prevent them

from doing that without getting congressional approval. That resolution failed yesterday. And you do have senior administration officials, a

Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense who briefed members of Congress earlier this week, who said that there are not currently any plans

that the administration is going to be carrying out strikes on land inside Venezuela.

However, we also know that there is a legal justification memo that the Department of Justice built up for these strikes on these drug boats, and

we know that there are some efforts to build up another legal justification in that same office at the Department of Justice that could enable the

administration to then move forward with potential strikes on land.

But for the time being, the administration was clear in that briefing that they do not currently have the legal justification to move forth with any

sort of operation. So, this is clearly a very fast-moving dynamic right now, we don't know exactly where this is all going. The administration is

saying this is about drug smuggling. This is about a counter-narcotics operation.

But there are folks in Congress who are incredibly wary of that. And we should also note that the U.S. has some major military buildup that's

already there, and it's only going to expand in the weeks to come.

WATT: And Kylie, any reaction since that -- since this latest strike from Maduro?

ATWOOD: Well, listen, Maduro has actually been sort of quiet over the last few weeks, in contrast to what we had heard from Venezuelan President

Maduro in earlier months. He, you know, stood in New York, and he told members of the military that they should disobey President Trump. There --

you know, there have been -- there have been a lot from President Maduro coming out as well as the Colombian President, other folks in the region.

But Maduro himself has, we know, been trying to keep a lower profile here. He has been moving from place to place. So, how this shapes the support

that he has in the country domestically is also a space for us to continue to watch.

WATT: Kylie Atwood in Washington, thanks very much for your time. Still to come tonight, a CNN investigation reveals China is massively expanding its

military capabilities, building out dozens of new facilities. Plus, a CNN investigation inside Libya showing how traffickers deep in the Sahara are

extorting ransom payments from the families of desperate migrants. That story coming up.

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WATT: China's latest and most capable aircraft carrier has officially entered service. This is a significant step forward for Beijing as it seeks

to catch up with the United States' Naval supremacy. China's state broadcaster, "CCTV" reports that President Xi Jinping attended the

commissioning ceremony for the Fujian earlier this week.

This as a new CNN analysis shows that China has undertaken a massive expansion of sites linked to missile facilities. CNN's senior investigative

writer Tamara Qiblawi reports.

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TAMARA QIBLAWI, CNN SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE WRITER (voice-over): China appears to be expanding its military arsenal at a historic pace, according

to the findings of a CNN investigation. We identified and located 136 facilities linked to China's rocket force, which oversees both nuclear and

conventional missiles.

This is one of the fastest growing areas of the country's 2 million strong armed forces. We also analyzed satellite images to measure the scale of the

expansion, details that have not previously been reported. These facilities are research institutes, factories, bases and testing sites. Despite

Beijing's repeated denials, military experts say that this is China ringing in a new arms race.

Across the country, more than half of these sites have expanded. Several of them replacing whole villages growing by tens of thousands of feet in just

five years. Others emerging out of farmland, like this one in northwest China, a testing site for hypersonic missiles complete with 139,000 square

feet of brand new facilities.

Take a look at this rocket factory on China's coast. We see a yard with missiles over 60 feet long. China's military covered the roofs of the

rocket warehouses with camouflage. Freight trains transporting rockets run from one end of the site to the other to produce missiles that are larger

and more sophisticated, China needs a lot more floor space.

So, that's what we measured since 2020. China added at least 21 million square feet to its rocket research and production floor space. That's about

the size of 375 football fields. Historically discreet about its military posture, recently, China has been flaunting its capabilities. In September,

a show of force at China's military parade, friend and foe watched closely.

Among the weapons brandished by China, the DF-2060, an upgraded version of a missile ominously dubbed the Guam Killer. U.S. territory of Guam is home

to Andersen Air Force Base, which serves as a launching point for America's long-range bombers. Because of this missile's partially unpredictable

flight path, it may potentially outmaneuver America's most advanced air defenses and strike strategic U.S. positions in the Pacific.

(on camera): Why does this matter? Because in our previous investigation, we found that the U.S. burned through around 25 percent of its THAAD air

defense systems in just 12 days. The Pentagon has been scrambling to replace them. Now, these are the very interceptors that are designed to

shoot Chinese rockets down.

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Is it fair to say that this is an arms race?

WILLIAM ALBERQUE, FORMER NATO DIRECTOR OF ARMS CONTROL: We're talking about operational missiles. Missiles for theater warfare and battlefield.

We're talking about strategic missiles. Missiles for strategic dominance, for deterring the United States and possibly defeating the United States.

I would say it's not only fair to say that it's an arms race, but China has already sprinted off the starting line.

QIBLAWI (voice-over): Tamara Qiblawi, CNN, London.

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WATT: Still to come this hour, migrants captured and tortured by criminal gangs. Videos of that abuse sent to the victims' families. CNN heads to

Libya to investigate these horrific crimes. Plus, world leaders gather in Brazil ahead of COP 30, but who is not there? Details just ahead.

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WATT: Global immigration hit record levels this year. More and more migrants from countries such as Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia are

fleeing war and persecution. Many of them make their way to Libya in the hopes of eventually reaching Europe, Canada or the U.S. A warning, what

you're about to see is disturbing.

Once these migrants reach Libya, many of them are captured by criminal gangs, and CNN has identified videos of these migrants being brutally

tortured. Those videos are then sent to family members around the world with demands for thousands of dollars in ransoms. CNN's Isobel Yeung

traveled to the heart of the story in Libya, where these horrific abuses are taking place.

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ISOBEL YEUNG, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We're here in this barren southernmost part of Libya at the heart of the migrant trail.

Authorities say they're overwhelmed with the influx of recent arrivals. Several hundred migrants are being held in this detention center after

illegally crossing into the country.

YEUNG: Hi! As-salamu alaykum. You have not left this room for three months.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes. No care. Nobody cares for us.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are some sick here.

YEUNG: People are sick?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sick.

YEUNG: I mean, I'm not surprised people are getting sick. It's crowded. Pretty shocking conditions.

YEUNG (voice-over): Cramped among them is a man who has just been arrested on suspicion of collecting money for ransoms. The police interrogate him

over his involvement.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (text): OK, but what's your role?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (text): My role is transfers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (text): So, therefore, you are a partner!

YEUNG: It seems like this guy is admitting to his involvement, saying that he was involved in the whole other system, which is taking money from these

migrants and paying his boss, who is the big trafficker.

YEUNG (voice-over): The suspect hands over crucial details about a farm where he says the migrants who paid him are held for ransom. The police

gear up and plan to raid the premises.

YEUNG: So, these guys are heading towards a location that they believe a trafficker is operating where he's holding migrants that they believe have

been tortured and held for ransom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (text): This room is a secret prison.

YEUNG: They are searching through this room that they believe is where migrants were being held. It doesn't look like anyone's here anymore. Looks

like they've fled or been taken to the next spot. There's a lot of clothes hanging up here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (text): The traffickers keep the migrants' passports in this room. And when the ransom is paid, they return the passports.

YEUNG (voice-over): Unknown numbers of migrants are still under the control of their captors. Women and children are often the most vulnerable. In this

detention center, almost everyone tells us they've been trafficked and tortured. Mostly Eritreans and Ethiopians. They've paid their ransoms and

are now waiting for help from the U.N. Because of the harrowing details of what they've been through, we're keeping some people here anonymous.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Those guys, they touch me and they do something every day. Like four boys, they do like that.

YEUNG: It sounds like you've been sexually abused. Have you had any medical treatment for it? None?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She checked to me like for pregnant.

YEUNG: You're not pregnant?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I'm not pregnant. But it's hurts too much. Even I want to die, but I cannot do it.

YEUNG: You've been hurting yourself?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

YEUNG: On this hand?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

YEUNG: On this hand? It's so awful to hear someone who's so young, you're just 16 years old, talk about not wanting to live anymore.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every girl they do this. Every girl.

YEUNG: Every girl is the same.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

YEUNG (voice-over): Suddenly, everyone in the room breaks down.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everyone having pain. Everyone.

YEUNG: Everyone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

YEUNG: I mean, it's actually unbearable amounts of pain in this one room. Just every single woman, child in here. It just seems like they've suffered

the most horrific experience.

YEUNG (voice-over): Girls as young as 14, children, pregnant women, these are just a small sample of people trafficked through a living hell.

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It's rare that authorities get to the torture sites in time. Back in 2022, acting on a tip-off from migrants who'd escaped, they were able to free

over 150 people. They were held inside these rooms for months and said they'd been brutally abused.

Standing outside guarding the rooms was an Eritrean man called Tsinat Tesfay. In this footage, you can see the newly released migrants pointing

and screaming at Tesfay. We received special permission to meet with Tesfay in a high-security prison.

YEUNG: As-salamu alaykum.

YEUNG (voice-over): He's been convicted of kidnapping and is serving a life sentence. He says he's innocent and that he was one of the migrants being

trafficked rather than someone responsible.

YEUNG: How do you explain the fact that so many of the migrants that you were with that day say that they were tortured and abused and treated

horrifically, and you're saying that you saw nothing?

TSINAT TESFAY, PRISONER FROM ERITREA (text): No, no. I didn't see torture.

YEUNG: Why is it do you think that Eritreans end up working with these Libyans in these human trafficking networks?

TESFAY (text): It's all about money. They want to change their lives.

YEUNG (voice-over): This business is bigger than one man. The network Tesfay was accused of operating in stretches across this vast desert and

has links to traffickers in Uganda, Ethiopia, and the Emirates. Libya can't tackle this alone. While a rise in anti-immigration politics is failing to

translate into international cooperation, many thousands of people making this treacherous journey will continue to live through this never-ending

nightmare.

Isobel Yeung, CNN Libya.

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NICK WATT, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Now, the top U.S. Senate Democrat, Chuck Schumer, is speaking right now as efforts continue to end that

shutdown. We're going to take it live. Listen in.

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SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER: That's not a negotiation. It's an extension of current law, something we do all the time around here, as we all know. But we also

offer this. Let's create a bipartisan committee that will continue negotiations after the government reopens on reforms ahead of next year's

enrollment period to provide long-term certainty that health care costs will be more affordable.

This proposal reopens the government and ensures working families who are shopping right now for their healthcare get certainty and financial relief.

While open enrollment has begun, insurers can update their rates after we pass a simple extension of the tax credits. With this approach, we do not

negotiate healthcare in the shutdown as leader Thune has maintained he wishes and the American people get the tax credit extension they want. That

is what many of our Republican colleagues have floated over the last six weeks is a compromise. A one-year tax credit extension and reforms to the

credit beyond that.

We will agree with the Republican request not to start negotiations until after the government reopens. All Republicans have to do is say yes to

extend current law for one year. It makes sense. And since what we're proposing is only a simple extension of current law, the Senate could do

this within a few hours. This is a reasonable offer that reopens the government, deals with healthcare affordability, and begins a process of

negotiating reforms to the ACA tax credits for the future.

Now, the ball is in the Republicans court. We need Republicans to just say yes. I yield to Senator Peters.

SEN. GARY PETERS (D-MI): Thank you, Leader Schumer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Senator from Michigan.

PETERS: Thank you, Madam President. Madam President --

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WATT: We are going to take a short break. Stay with CNN. We'll be following this and many other stories.

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WATT: World leaders are meeting in Brazil for a second day to discuss climate change challenges and comments ahead of the COP30 summit next week.

COP30 was built as a landmark gathering where countries would chart a course to dramatically cut climate pollution. Instead, huge polluters have

missed deadlines to submit climate goals. The Trump White House won't even send a delegation and host country Brazil has just approved oil drilling at

the mouth of the Amazon. All the while, global temperatures tick upward and climate targets slip out of reach.

It's been a difficult decade since the Paris climate agreement of 2015, where countries agreed to limit global warming to well below two degrees

Celsius. Now, climate activists are questioning whether we're sticking to that road map.

CNN's Julia Vargas Jones is in Belem, Brazil, where the summit is being held. Julia, the Americans aren't there. The Brits aren't going to fund a

key forest initiative. Brazil is drilling. Is there any chance of anything being achieved?

JULIA VARGAS JONES, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Wow. that is grim, Nick, I have to say. Look, this -- the way that Brazilian authorities here

are trying to appeal to the people that are still committed to saving the environment, to lowering global temperatures, is don't forget the Paris

agreement. There is a way forward where we can continue to provide for our nations and build economic growth into these plans.

That is what President of Brazil, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, was trying to do with his new fund. It's the tropical forest forever fund. He's hoping to

raise $125 billion to then pay back those developing nations that say, you know, we've missed out on the fossil fuel boom and now you're saying we

can't use it to fund our own development. That's unfair. How do we fund this?

Well, this fund is trying to address it, saying that the amount that will be earned of interest alone will be enough to pay back these nations. It's

not just Brazil, Colombia, Peru. You're talking about Indonesia, the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Now, you hinted at something there. The United Kingdom has said that they will not be participating despite Prince William coming last week and

playing beach volleyball in Rio de Janeiro and Keir Starmer being here in Belem to participate in the absence of course of Donald Trump. Brazil did

raise about $5 billion, about 50 percent of the goal for this year for the first year of the fund. They are basically spinning this as a success but

it's hard to really see that without the participation of the United States which has been a key player on funding, you know, funds like the Amazon

fund in the past.

But there is also a win there for Brazil. Donald Trump has made his policies on the environment quite clear. The White House said that coming

to this conference would be a waste of time, that it would jeopardize the country's economy. So, Brazil's foreign ministry saying foreign ministry is

saying better without them. Let's forge ahead and make a path with people that are actually committed to these climate goals and then can work

together. Perhaps the United States being here would have been a distraction. Plus, there's still something else on the table.

Before the U.N. General Assembly in September, Trump and Lula had a chemistry moment. You know, they had a bit of a turn in their sometimes

turbulent relations where the two men were able to talk about a path forward where perhaps the United States would reconsider the 50 percent

tariff on Brazil. That relationship still very tenuous, Nick. So, perhaps them not being here is still better for those who really want to sit at a

table and discuss a path forward to try to see what we can still do about that Paris agreement and all of those goals in the next decade.

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WATT: Wow. Julia Vargas Jones in Brazil, thanks very much.

Now, after deadly destruction in the Philippines, Typhoon Kalmaegi slammed into Vietnam. Now, the storm is rapidly weakening as it moves over the

region. Powerful winds and rains damaged homes in Central Vietnam overnight. At least five people were killed. Kalmaegi's torrential

downpours fell in an area already flooded by record rainfall.

Earlier in the week, the storm tore through the Philippines. Local officials say at least 188 people were killed, most in Cebu Province, a

tourist hotspot. CNN's Mike Valerio has more on Kalmaegi and another impending typhoon, Fung-Wong.

MIKE VALERIO, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: So, important to note here, we're not talking about just one typhoon impacting Asia in a week's time.

We're talking about two of them. So, let's put up the forecast track. You can see Typhoon Kalmaegi, the path that it's taken across the Philippines

into Vietnam, across Cambodia, Lao, ending up in Thailand late Friday into early Saturday.

But of course, there's the second storyline of the Philippines already preparing for the second typhoon, Fung-Wong, which is expected to hit

Luzon, the northern stretches of the Philippines by late Sunday into early Monday morning.

We're also seeing new pictures of the devastation courtesy of Typhoon Kalmaegi coming in from Vietnam. This is a shrimp farm that has been

devastated along the coastline. According to the Associated Press, more than 500,000 people evacuated ahead of this storm in Vietnam. We're going

to hear from that shrimp farmer just about his loss and what he faces in the weeks and months to come. Listen to what he said.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Even though the storms are more frequent now, I will still have to try and borrow money to build a stronger farm

than what I lost. I don't know how else I could do it.

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VALERIO: So, also in Vietnam, according to our latest reporting, there are three people who are missing, swept out to sea on Ly Son Island. That's in

Quang Ngai Province. The context here of what Vietnam has been dealing with is, you know, areas certainly near this storm path are still recovering

from heavy rains last week. The ancient town of Hoi An and the former imperial capital of Hue, impacted by those heavy rains last week.

Moving to the Philippines, our latest reporting indicates that there are more than a hundred people who are still missing. Cebu City, the tourist

hot spot, is among the epicenters of the devastation where we have seen rescuers move through waist-deep water trying to rescue people from their

roofs and submerged homes.

This is all happening as people in the Philippines have been protesting about what they say are lack of substantial flood projects. And again, from

their points of view, they're leveling allegations of people taking kickbacks for these flood control projects and money rather than going to

the flood control projects going into the pockets of construction companies, legislators, senators, and then leaving them with these pictures

of devastation.

In the meantime, the Philippines again, still is in the state of calamity. A nationwide declaration making it easier for emergency aid to be

distributed and again preparing itself for the second typhoon, Fung-Wong, which is expected by the end of the weekend.

Mike Valerio, CNN Beijing.

WATT: Still to come tonight, Grammy nominations for the best in music have been announced. After the break, we'll be talking Tay and we'll be talking

Bad Bunny. That's coming up.

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WATT: The Grammy nominations were announced today and one artist dominates. Kendrick Lamar taking nine nods, including song of the year for Luther.

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WATT: The Recording Academy also recognize Kendrick Lamar for Album and Record of the Year. Other big nominees include Lady Gaga who nabbed seven

nominations along with Bad Bunny and Sabrina Carpenter who were also nominated.

Now, joining us from here in Los Angeles is CNN's Elizabeth Wagmeister. Elizabeth, so Kendrick, Gaga, Carpenter, Bunny, what does this tell us

about the current state of culture and music?

ELIZABETH WAGMEISTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, they're all on a on -- a on one basis as you just said there, Nick Watt. Look, I mean, I think

what's interesting is that the Recording Academy this year, they really are honoring rap music and also Latin music, which Latin music is historically

shut out of the Grammys with those nominations going to the sister telecast, the Latin Grammys. But this year, there are no nominees in the

country genre for the main category.

So, what that tells us culturally is where the Recording Academy is at. They have made great lengths to diversify the Recording Academy in recent

years and now we are seeing some of that reflected in these nominations and certainly with Bad Bunny who, of course, has been the talk of the town and

not just Hollywood but also D.C. because he has been announced as the Super Bowl halftime performer.

He made history, Nick. He is the first-ever Spanish-language artist to be nominated in the three top categories in one year. So that's a big feat not

just for him but again for Latin music in the entire genre.

WATT: And Elizabeth, no Taylor Swift but that's not a diss. It's not haters. Explain.

WAGMEISTER: No. So, before, you know, we anger any Swifties of which I am one, Taylor Swift was not snubbed. She's actually not eligible. So, of

course, her album Life of a Showgirl, her most recent album, has been the biggest pop culture moment of the year, but the album came out too late.

So, she missed the eligibility window.

Don't feel bad for her. Of course, she has done very, very well at the Grammys in the past year, and just, you know, expect her to sweep next

year. So, Nick, same time, same place a year from now. Mark your calendar. We'll be talking a lot about Taylor.

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WATT: I'm sure we will. Now the ceremony February 1st. Do we know any details of what to expect on the night? Who's going to perform? Any teasers

there?

WAGMEISTER: You know, we don't. It's really early. You know, the Grammy nominations, they always come out quite early before the actual show, which

as you said is always in February. But I will tell you that I attend the Grammys every year and it really is one of the best award shows to go to

because you're seeing performances from the top names in music all in one room at one night and that rarely ever happens.

So, just among the nominees, you know, you have Kendrick Lamar who was by the way the biggest winner last year. He walked away with five awards. You

have Sabrina Carpenter, Lady Gaga. You have Justin Bieber who was nominated for four awards this year. So, it'll be really great to see the Biebs back

at the Grammys.

So, just among the nominees, you have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to the biggest names in music, and they will certainly get huge A-

list talent to present. So, even if they are not performing or if they're not nominated, you always see some huge names show up on that Grammy stage.

And maybe they will try to get Taylor Swift to be a presenter because anytime that you have Taylor in a telecast, ratings of course skyrocket.

WATT: Wags, thanks very much. And thank you all for watching. Stay with CNN. "WHAT WE KNOW" with Paula Newton, that's coming up next.

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