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Trump: Ready to Hit Again After Latest U.S. Offensive; USS Abraham Lincoln in Thailand After Extended Deployment; Protests in Ceuta, Spain Over Ongoing Migrant Crisis; Clancy Jurors Once Again Tell Judge They're Deadlocked. Iran Launches Retaliatory Strikes Against U.S. Targets Across the Middle East; Rescue Workers Believe Dozens of People Could Still Be Alive Inside Nepal's Flooded Hydroelectric Tunnels; U.S. and Venezuela Sign New Oil Deal. Aired 2:00-3p ET
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MAX FOSTER, HOST, ISA SOARES TONIGHT: Welcome to the show, everyone, I'm Max Foster in for Isa Soares. Tonight, Iran plans U.S. strikes, a brutal
war crime after shrapnel falls on a wedding party. The latest developments in the war including Donald Trump's suggestion to rename the Strait of
Hormuz, the Trump Strait.
Then rescue workers believe dozens of people could still be alive inside Nepal's flooded hydroelectric tunnels. A special report from the region.
And it's being dubbed the biggest oil deal in history by the White House. What the deal between the U.S. and Venezuela means in reality just ahead.
Now, rescue workers think there is a chance that dozens of people are still alive inside Nepal's flooded hydroelectric tunnels. Rescue workers have
focused on two tunnels that have perhaps special chambers with air supplies inside.
It's thought that 90 people could have survived inside them. Officials also say they're making good progress, restoring communications and clearing
roads in the parts of China and Nepal that were devastated by last week's flooding.
There were still more than 4,000 people missing, and it's clear that the survivors will bear the scars of this tragedy for the rest of their lives.
CNN's Will Ripley is on the scene and spoke to some of those shattered survivors.
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WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On this unfinished rooftop of a small municipal building in Dhido, Nepal, 50 men
left homeless by the flood tried to sleep, but the nights are long and cold, and Suba Tumang(ph) says full of tears and fear.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This place is not also safe --
RIPLEY (on camera): So, you're afraid the flood could even come up to this roof --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes --
RIPLEY: How do you sleep at night, do you -- are you able to sleep?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, we can -- we could not because many people cry because of -- because they lost their family members too. So, many people
cry here at night, remembering their members. And every day is well like that.
RIPLEY: You've got the helicopters always flying over.
(Voice-over): Everyday, the choppers fly out, searching for survivors. Every night, they fly back and those he lost are still on.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I lost my eighth family member, yes --
RIPLEY: You lost eight family members --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes --
RIPLEY (on camera): You lost eight family members --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I lost my uncle and my siblings.
RIPLEY: I'm so sorry.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This one also --
RIPLEY: Is this your brother?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes --
RIPLEY: How old is he?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is two years old.
RIPLEY: What's his name?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His name is Saiba Angenan(ph).
RIPLEY: How old is Angenan(ph)?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's two years old. Her name is Joe Matama(ph).
RIPLEY: So, she's your aunt.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes --
RIPLEY: Camera phone pictures are precious commodities for Suba(ph) and his cousin, Kopile Tuma(ph), they have little less left.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Really, yes, one, I can use --
RIPLEY: You took this one?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes --
RIPLEY: How old?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One month. She's our first daughter, second daughter, my mom is third one, this also lost, my mom and my two siblings also and
two cousins. Auntie and her daughter.
RIPLEY: All three lost?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, both lost. This is my sister, she's also lost. This is my grandma --
RIPLEY: She was also lost --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, she's also lost. She's still innocent, she used to love me so much.
RIPLEY: Everyone in this picture --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes --
RIPLEY: Is gone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These are all gone. They're like my children, when I came home, they always come back with me and call me Fupu(ph). So, I miss
them.
RIPLEY: Seventeen family members --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes --
RIPLEY: That's even hard to even wrap your head around that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes --
RIPLEY (voice-over): Twenty-fifteen earthquake destroyed her old family home. Back then, everyone survived. This time, the wall of water consumed
her family's new home in Luciba(ph), leaving nothing and no one behind.
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(On camera): So, you were trying to call --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes --
RIPLEY: Your dad, your mom, nobody picked up --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My little babies, there's no answer --
RIPLEY: Because all of them were gone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes --
RIPLEY: What do you -- what's keeping you strong?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have one small brother I have to take care of him. Now, I am the mother for him. So, I have to be strong. When I cry, he also
cries.
RIPLEY: Hello?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's my brother --
RIPLEY: What's your name?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kogen Tamang(ph) --
RIPLEY: Kogen Tamang(ph), nice to meet you.
(Voice-over): Time passes slowly here. Most people are still in a state of shock with only the clothes on their backs. About 100 women and children
sleep in this yoga center, they tell me, every time there's a rumor of another flood, everyone runs up this nearby hill and hides.
The rumors often come late at night, they say. But there are no showers and everyone shares a bathroom. They get their drinking water from a truck or
fill their bottles at nearby waterfalls. Children like Regina(ph) and Recita Buta(ph) can't go to school because it was also destroyed.
(On camera): So, what happened when you're on a bus going to school? "We could see the water chasing us from our window", she says.
(CHILDREN WAILING)
RIPLEY (voice-over): "Everyone started crying and shouting, the driver drove very fast and took us to a safer place. I was extremely scared; we
thought the flood would not be this big. But when we saw how huge it was, we were terrified."
Her dad, Regenda Buta(ph) says the bus driver saved his children's lives. He saw dozens of houses being washed away along with a bridge and a road.
The raging water dragged this bus hundreds of feet.
(On camera): Did you ever think you'd see a flood like this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "No, I've never seen this type of flood", he says. "Not just me, but my father and grandfather also never witnessed such a
devastating flood in their lifetimes. I think a large number of school children may have died since some of their parents may also have died.
There's no one to ask about their whereabouts.
RIPLEY: You really got to watch your step, this is quicksand, probably about 20 feet deep. Some of these guys out here said they stepped in it,
and it went right up to their neck. That makes recovering bodies very difficult and dangerous.
(Voice-over): Nobody knows how many bodies are buried beneath, or when or where it will be safe to rebuild all the homes, all the lives swept away.
Will Ripley, CNN, Bidur, Nepal.
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FOSTER: We're seeing renewed concerns about all-out war between the U.S. and Iran after the biggest exchange of fire since July. The U.S. carried
out more than six hours of strikes on Iran in a second wave of attacks.
Iran says 18 people were killed in all, and says one strike hit a wedding party in a southern coastal village killing four people, including a young
child. It says dozens of others were wounded including 19 children under the age of 10.
U.S. Central Command though says it struck military targets in Iran, including air defenses radar systems and mine-laying capabilities.
President Trump warned that Iran could face more severe strikes if it retaliates, it says, quote, "the biggest attack of them all is still
waiting in the wings."
Iran did retaliate, saying it hit U.S. military assets in Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait and Iraq. It says its goal is to drive out U.S. forces from the
region, warning any country that cooperates with the U.S. military faces dangerous consequences.
Let's bring in Kevin Liptak. So, Kevin we did get a response from the Iranians, and does feel as though we're into a new phase of this war.
KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: A new phase, but a phase that in a lot of ways looks very similar to what we saw earlier this
Summer. This sort of nightly back-and-forth attack, the U.S. striking positions in Iran, going back to strike American positions in allied
countries in the Gulf.
And so, we clearly have ended that period of calm that we saw for the last month or so. And I think the real question is whether this portends now
permanent sort of state of conflict. You know, it's not a full-out war, but it's also not a ceasefire.
Or whether this is the President's strategy going forward to sort of resume these skirmishes every couple of weeks or so, then go back to a period of
calm. He seems to be trying to put some distance between himself and the conflict as we head into the Midterm elections and certainly at the White
House.
You don't hear a great amount of appetite for resumption of a full-scale conflict. And in his post, and in his comments over the last year, so the
President is not sounding at all like a man who is in a hurry for the conflict to end.
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He said that he doesn't want to bring the Iranians --
FOSTER: OK --
LIPTAK: Back to the negotiating table --
FOSTER: Kevin, I'm so sorry to interrupt you because we want to take people to the West Wing of the White House where you are. The President
speaking and he's just taking question on Iran.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We have two forms, machine guns and snipers. And they use them, sometimes they're machine guns and
sometimes they're snipers. They like the snipers better because all they do is have a crowd of 200,000 people and a person goes down here, right
between the eyes.
And they have three snipers doing it, and it's a horrible thing to watch. So, that's why it's not happening. And who can blame them? Who can blame
them? But the regime is getting weaker by the day.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One on topic here. Do you have anything else up your sleeve, big events coming up between now and the Summer Olympics and the
second phase on South America? I know you're trying to cement while your ties down there.
Are there any plans or no major military -- basically, no military bases in South America. Do you have any plans to --
TRUMP: Well, South America, yes, it's great that you mentioned South America, because as you know, I endorsed a gentleman, El Tigre, I liked his
name, I guess that means he's a tough guy, I'm not sure.
But he's now the President of Colombia. He wasn't expected to win. He was one of ten people running. He wasn't the favorite person, and he turned out
-- and he's doing a great job, but he was elected. We have numerous people, Argentina, lots of people that -- I got elected.
And that part of hemisphere is really turning out to be very much different than it was. They've gone from being left to going right. They're all going
right. We have a good relationship with Brazil, a good relationship really with just about all of them now.
They have a lot of respect for our country, they didn't respect our country two years ago at all. And so, we're doing very well in South America, Latin
America. We're doing very well in -- and these people flying. I mean, they're the ones that -- they get you there for the most part.
And they're all doing very well. That whole thing is opening up, it's great cooperation between our country and all of South America.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, Canada is America's second largest trading partner. Are there any plans for renewed trade talks between the
U.S. and Canada? And has there been any decline in terms of Canadian tourism to the U.S.? And perhaps, you focus --
TRUMP: Well, I don't know, I can tell you this, that you know, Canada has been ripping off the United States for many years, for decades, many
decades. We lost anywhere from $60 billion to a $100 billion with Canada.
We traditionally lose that for the last 15 years. It's a very unfair deal. They charge tremendous tariffs to our farmers; they take advantage of our
farmers. They take advantage of our tourists; they take advantage of airlines.
Something that nobody brought up, I'll bring it up right now. They think it's so sensitive, but I don't find it sensitive. Canada has all of its
major banks here, and we're their biggest source of income, far bigger than they are in Canada.
They basically don't allow banks of America to be in Canada. That's sort of emblematic of the way they treat us. Think of it. So, they have their banks
here, Bank of Canada, all of them, and big banks, big beautiful banks.
I think they have six or seven major banks here. We don't have our banks there; you know why they don't allow it? I had a case about a week ago
where a friend of mine was buying a Gulfstream jet, and he said, you know, it's a crazy thing.
We're not able to -- Canada won't certify Gulfstream. Won't certify it. Gulfstream is the best private jet, you know, considered the best of the
best. And they won't certify it in Canada because they make a competitor, Bombardier, a Global Express.
And so, their competitor didn't want them to have competition. So, for approximately nine years, this has been going on, they won't certify
Gulfstream. So, he's very friendly with Gulfstream, he told the head of Gulfstream to call me, gave me the numbers, we called, we spoke.
He said, sir, I've spent $60 million trying to get certified in Canada, I can't get certified in Canada. They won't do it. So, I immediately said I'm
putting a major tariff on Bombardier and other things that they sent until they're certified. They get certified in two hours.
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TRUMP: I got a call from the Prime Minister, President, what seems to be the problem? I said, well, yes, I have a little problem. For nine years,
you didn't certify Gulfstream. Essentially, they can't sell any plane in -- but Bombardier has free run over the United States.
Both good planes, very good planes. And I said, so, what we're going to do is, we're going to charge you tariffs on various products including
Bombardier, we put a nice big -- and within 30 minutes, I guess it took maybe less, everything got certified.
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He told me they spent millions and millions of dollars on legal fees over - - about a nine-year period trying to do it, I did it in a matter of moments. But that's the way they treat us. And I thought that was really
egregious. It was incredible because everyone knows how good the Gulfstream is.
It's a -- it's the best plane, and for them to not be allowed to sell it in Canada -- but that's the way they are. And people are surprised when I say
it, like I have China coming here. A lot of people say, who is the toughest one to deal with? Is it China, sir, is it China? Is it Vietnam?
Is it -- I said, no, actually it's Canada. Canada has felt emboldened. They had presidents that didn't know what was happening. Not only the last one,
all of them. I mean, they just were taking it -- our country has been taken advantage of by Canada.
They took 20 percent of our car industry out. I don't blame them for that. But if we would have had a President that knew what was happening, nobody
would have left. Now, they're all coming back. All they would have had to do is charge tariffs, and they would have put tariffs on.
If you build a car in Canada, you have to pay a 25 percent tariff and nobody could pay. And if that didn't work, you make it 50 percent, or if
that didn't work, you make it 100 percent. And we have everybody coming -- or you stop doing business with --
FOSTER: The President taking questions there on a wide range of issues at the White House. Let's bring in Kevin Liptak. So, on Iran, he said it's
getting weaker. He also talked about an improving relationship with South America and then going deeper there into Canada and his issues with U.S.
banks not getting access to Canada, U.S. aircraft makers not getting access to Canada.
LIPTAK: Right, and I think, you know, when he's talking about Iran there, he was asked specifically about this comment that he put on Truth Social
earlier today, which was questioning why the Iranian people weren't rising up against the regime to overthrow their leaders.
It's something that he has talked about. He talked about at the very beginning of this conflict. Remember in that video he put out the night the
war began? He called on the Iranians to rise up and overthrow their leaders.
But obviously, that hasn't happened. The Iranian regime, despite the supreme leader being assassinated, has only become more entrenched. And in
his answer today, he did acknowledge that, that was because the Iranians were shooting protesters.
And so, he answered his own question in a lot of ways. But I think it was interesting this -- the question that he was asked was whether the U.S. was
going to do anything to actually try and provide support to those Iranian protesters, for example, arming them, which is not something I don't think
he would answer publicly before cameras.
And he acknowledged, yes, I'm not going to answer that for you here. But it does, I think, just underscore some questions about what exactly the
strategic objective is going forward. You know, the President wants the Iranians to rise up and overthrow the regime, but he's not saying whether
the U.S. is going to provide any support for them to do that.
And he seems to acknowledge the difficulty in trying to go out into the streets when you have a regime that's using machine guns to shoot sort of
at will into crowds. And so, in listening to him there, and if you're trying to detect, you know, what the strategy is here, what the pathway is
for the President to try and bring this conflict to a conclusion, I think you're still left with those questions after listening to him today.
FOSTER: Kevin Liptak at the White House, thank you. Come back with you when we hear more from the President. He's still speaking -- and we'll
bring you the highlights. Now, a short while ago, U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright and Venezuela's Acting President Delcy Rodriguez signed a deal
that will give the U.S. access to 65 billion barrels of oil across 17 Venezuelan oil fields.
President Donald Trump claims that oil will be used to replenish America's emergency energy supplies. The Trump administration is framing the deal as
a major win for both Americans and Venezuelans. But critics are questioning the legality of an agreement that so closely ties the U.S. government with
private companies. Let's go to our business editor-at-large, Richard Quest.
Just take us through the concerns here, Richard.
RICHARD QUEST, CNN BUSINESS EDITOR-AT-LARGE: So, it's the way the deal is structured. The devils always in the detail. The Venezuelans and the
Americans have created this company, which will own the assets, which is this block of land, it's about a fifth of Venezuela's oil reserves.
And this company will own it or will control it. And the U.S. has 35 percent of that company. You then go to the next stage; the U.S. has a
right to get a certain percentage of cost. It can get the next percentage, but essentially, the U.S. will have de facto control over these 65 billion
barrels of oil.
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Now, what and what they're going to do, of course, is take the oil and replenish the U.S. Strategic Reserve. It has been drawn down quite
dramatically in recent months because of the high price, because of the gulf -- oh, sorry, because of the Iran war.
And they're going to use it. Longer term, Max, is this one of those cases of plunder getting something cheap, taking advantage. The arguments go both
ways. At the moment, it's a deal advantageous to the United States.
FOSTER: And what difference will it make to the market and you know, everyone who relies on oil?
QUEST: None whatsoever. Because it's going to take a considerable amount of time to develop the necessary oil production capacity to make a real
difference. You could arguably say knowing it's coming will make a difference, but not really.
I think well, the bit that's going to benefit the most will be the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The U.S. will be able to fill up those caves,
fill up all of that stuff relatively quickly, and that will put the U.S. in a strategically stronger position.
Because at the moment, everybody is dipping into reserves, moving oil around to try and nullify or at least weaken the effect of the higher oil
price because of Iran, and it's not going to go down soon. In fact, as you've been reporting, Max, it's going up.
FOSTER: And we mentioned that critics are questioning the legality of the agreement. Does that mean it's going to be challenged in court by even
competitor --
QUEST: No --
FOSTER: You know, Venezuelans, perhaps, but also competitors --
QUEST: There's a --
FOSTER: To Chevron --
QUEST: There's 1001 ways this can be challenged in the U.S. courts, Venezuelan courts, slightly less likely, is it an appropriate deal for the
U.S. to be doing in such a way, sovereign rights issues. But I think that's not going to be the big problem.
For the oil companies, who are going to have to put the billions of dollars of investment, the big problem is change of policy. What guarantees do they
have either on the U.S. side or on the Venezuelan side, that they won't suddenly find themselves on the wrong end of a shift in politics?
What guarantees are they going to get? You know, 20 percent of nothing is nothing. And that's what they're going to be fearful of. A change of
regime, a change of policy. They're going to want guarantees. And frankly, the only organization that can give guarantees will be the U.S. government.
FOSTER: Richard Quest, thank you so much. More from Richard in "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS". Still to come on the show, protests in Spain over the
ongoing migrant crisis in Ceuta, we're live with the very latest there for you.
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FOSTER: Ukraine is issuing a warning to airlines flying over Russian airspace. Watch out for drones. Ukraine has now urged the UN's Aviation
Watchdog to ask its members to fully ban operations in Russian airspace.
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy calls Russian skies completely dangerous, adding that they will effectively be closing because of Ukrainian drones.
The move comes as both Ukraine and Russia ramp up its attacks. CNN's Clare Sebastian has an update on the Russian response.
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CLARE SEBASTIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Yes, this, I think, from Vladimir Putin. This is classic Russian double speak. He is saying on the
one hand that he's open to seeking peace to continuing talks on this conflict.
Well, on the other hand, saying that Ukraine's warning over drones in Russian airspace is state terrorism and he doesn't negotiate with
terrorists. So, I think it's a sort of no dressed-up as a yes as we've seen many times from Putin and other Russian officials.
He also said in the same press conference that Russia was winning, which speaks to, of course, a lack of incentive for them to come to the
negotiating table. So, I think look at Russia in the sense of what it does and not what it says, because I think critical context for this is that
this is now the seventh day of perhaps the most intense and long-lasting bombardment of the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, that we've seen since the start
of the full-scale invasion.
They have been since last Thursday under near constant air raid alerts. And these alerts are not just warnings, they are often accompanied by
explosions. President Zelenskyy saying on Wednesday that a university was hit in Kyiv. Thankfully, the 160 students were already in a shelter.
And so profound has the impact been on everyday life in the capital, that the government is now upgrading its air alert system and choosing a two-
tier system, yellow for drones, red for missiles, to give people more sort of transparency and more of an ability to plan around these near-constant
alerts.
So, that is the context in which we see this very purposeful warning from President Zelenskyy, that Ukraine's own air war, its own air attacks on
Russia could still escalate. He's saying that Russian airspace is becoming completely unsafe, the drones in Russian skies, he said they're on a scale
that has to be taken into account.
Ukraine, he says he's not targeting civil aviation, but clearly, this is something that commercial airlines though still operating within Russia
cannot ignore. Limited impact so far. One Turkish carrier Pegasus said that flights overnight into Wednesday into Russia were canceled, they said due
to technical and operational reasons.
But now are continuing as normal. Several others have told us they are monitoring the situation. But of course, this is a moment when we do see
this air war escalating, and certainly, Ukraine hasn't been operating commercial aviation since the start of the war.
And it may be that the risk in Russia is now rising as well.
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FOSTER: Clare Sebastian there. Now, European leaders are standing firm with Germany today. This after it blames Russia for last month's attempted
drone attack at Leipzig Airport. Ursula von der Leyen, Head of the European Commission, vowed to increase pressure and sanctions on Russia.
Meanwhile, at a meeting of top EU officials, Foreign Policy Chief Kaja Kallas said they would discuss their response. She adds the attack had the
hallmarks of state-sponsored terrorism. French President Emmanuel Macron also denounced the attack.
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EMMANUEL MACRON, PRESIDENT, FRANCE (through translator): This is also an opportunity for us to express together our support for and solidarity with
Germany, which yesterday attributed the attack in Leipzig carried out a few weeks ago to Russia.
It is therefore abundantly clear that this constitutes yet another instance of interference. This hybrid war that Russia is effectively waging against
us, being documented in this way. I wish to reiterate our first support for Germany and the work being done.
And of course, our solidarity with all our European colleagues.
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FOSTER: Still to come tonight on the show. Back on dry land. U.S. Navy sailors who spent months in the fight against Iran finally get some relief.
We'll tell you where they are in just a moment.
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FOSTER: President Trump says he's ready to hit Iran again. His comments came moments ago, whilst speaking to reporters in the Oval Office.
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DONALD TRUMP, U.S. PRESIDENT: -- trying to build a rocket that drops mines. Who does that?
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FOSTER: Oh, there it is.
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TRUMP: Did you ever build a rocket that dropped -- I never heard of such a thing, but that's what they were doing. They were building it. It was
almost finished, so we took it out. We saw that they were building it. We see everything that they're doing. They can't move. They can't go to the
bathroom without us seeing it.
So, we saw that. We took it out. We took out some other things. And then we hit them last night because they took a shot at us in Jordan, at our base
in Jordan. We knocked all of them down. There were, I guess, eight missiles that were shot. They were all knocked down. One we let go because it was so
inaccurate. It landed in the middle of the desert someplace, so we let it go. Sometimes we let them go if they're not aimed correctly. It's an
amazing science. What they can do is absolutely incredible.
We had a case where 111 were shot at a certain ship, fellas, and out of 111, all 111 were knocked down. Can you imagine that? Now, five years ago,
seven years ago, you couldn't do that. Today, we have technology that's incredible. Nobody has technology like we have.
So, we hit them hard last night, very hard. They gave a little love tap, but we hit them very hard last night. We took out all of the new equipment
that they tried to build along the Strait of Hormuz, some defensive, some offensive. They were trying to see the ships because they can't see the
ships. You know, we're taking out a lot of ships. They can't see it because they have no radar because we blew it up, and we blew up much more than
their radar last night. It was a very heavy attack last night, and we're prepared to do another one anytime we want.
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FOSTER: Marines are finally getting a chance to rest and recuperate meanwhile after some The Americans are finally getting a chance to rest and
recuperate, meanwhile, after some nine months at sea. The USS Abraham Lincoln has docked in Thailand. It spent most of that time engaged in the
fight against Iran.
The Trump administration and the Pentagon have come under fire amid reports of poor living conditions on board the Lincoln.
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The situation got so bad that at one point, at least, one sailor had to be rescued after going overboard. The families of the Lincoln crew say they
are just happy to have their loved ones back.
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SHAKEIRA FAIRFAX, MOTHER OF USS LINCOLN CREW MEMBER: There was a time where the morale was at low, and I said, what can I do? You know, what can
I do? She said, just tell me old stories. And to be able to share stories and laugh and photographs, to take that walk down memory lane was really
nice. I just can't wait to see her smile. I can't wait to hear mom. I know that's the first thing she's going to say. I can't wait to hear her say
mom.
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FOSTER: Joining us now with some perspective on all of this is retired U.S. Navy Admiral Gary Roughead. Thank you so much for joining us, Admiral.
I mean, what do you make of this period they've had away and how unprecedented it is?
ADMIRAL GARY ROUGHEAD, U.S. NAVY (RET.) AND FORMER CHIEF OF U.S. NAVAL OPERATIONS: Well, first, Max, I'd say that I couldn't be more proud of the
men and women on the Abraham Lincoln, but also on all of the ships that are part of that strike group. It really has been an epic deployment. When you
consider that they've operated in three different regions of the globe, have been involved in very high intensity combat operations. It really
speaks well for those who serve and for our ability to project that much power.
FOSTER: When I talk about the concerns that were expressed about the poor living conditions on board, what should we read into that? Surely, you
know, being on board for such a long time is going to be difficult anyway.
ROUGHEAD: Right.
FOSTER: But when they talk about the living conditions, does that concern you?
ROUGHEAD: Well, it does. But I think one of the problems that we faced in the Gulf where we had our logistics organization, enterprise, if you will,
all focused on locations within the Gulf. It really has inhibited the ability to keep the ship supplied with fresh vegetables and food and
refrigerated items. So, you know, that has been a significant load, particularly on this strike group and the others that are operating there,
which I think just indicates the fact that the crew has performed so well, even when there have been shortages of things that you and I and others
just take for granted.
You know, that has been an issue. And it's one that there's a little doubt in my mind that we're working mightily to try to figure out how we can best
supply the ships that are going to be there. Because even if we were to go into a ceasefire today, there would still be the requirement for the
presence should the situation break down.
So, you know, we really need to get set for the long haul in that area, operating at sea at distance from logistic points. And I'm absolutely
certain that that work is going right now.
FOSTER: It really is the key naval asset, isn't it? There is concern that the American military is spreading itself too thin because facilities like
this would be needed if there was an unexpected challenge that came towards the military. Are you concerned that the Navy in particular is being spread
too thin at the moment?
ROUGHEAD: I do believe it is stretched thin. You know, we are smaller than we should be. And the operations there have demanded a lot of our ships.
We've extended the deployments and the Navy is looking at longer deployments. Obviously, we want to try and bring the length of those down
because there is a correlation between how long people are deployed, the conditions in which they're deployed, and the ability to retain and
attract, you know, great people.
So, that is something that we really have to pay attention to. And look at ways to not only support the people that are serving today, but really
looking very, very hard at how do we build up the Navy to the numbers that we need to be able to sustain these operations, not just in the Middle
East. But I would argue with the situation that we have going on in Europe with Russia, the potential for conflict in the Western Pacific, we really
need to think and the nation needs to invest in a Navy that can provide the power and the reassurance in many different areas around the world.
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FOSTER: OK. Retired U.S. Navy Admiral Gary Roughead, thank you so much for joining us on this momentous day for that incredible carrier. Thank you for
joining us.
Tensions rising in the City of Ceuta, Spain this hour, where a migrant crisis has prompted protests. They're both in support and against the
migrants who crossed into the region at the end of July. For days, thousands of migrants illegally crossed into Ceuta from Morocco. At one
point, more than 70,000 migrants were estimated to be in Ceuta. City officials estimate up to 10,000 migrants still remain there. However,
Spain's Interior Ministry says the number is closer to 5,000.
Pau Mosquera joins us from Madrid, because we remember those images, but actually the people living in Ceuta are still struggling with this, aren't
they? Thousands of people out on the street, on the beaches, still very much interrupting with their lives.
PAU MOSQUERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's it, Max. Actually, there is a lot of tension in Ceuta and that's why thousands around Spain in different
municipalities have decided to take to the streets as to show their discontent over the tension that Ceuta has been under over the past month.
Here in Madrid, as you can see here behind me, Max, thousands decided to take downtown as to show this discontentment with the situation. They are
now leaving the concentration that took place at Cibeles Square, the one that you will recall because it's the place that Spain's soccer national
team decided to celebrate their victory during the World Cup. That was the very same place where all these people gathered as to express on how they
feel about the ongoing crisis in Ceuta.
It's important to say, Max, that all of them were called by a federation that represents the interests of the thousands of municipalities in the
country as to show some support to the people living in this autonomous city in the north of Africa.
And during the concentration, Max, we have heard some chants against the Spanish government, some other people asking for the minister of interior
to resign, a lot of criticism against Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez because they believe that the Spanish government has not acted swiftly enough as to
solve this situation.
In fact, this is why the municipalities that are governed by the ruling Socialist Party have decided not to participate in these concentrations
because they believe that it is politically motivated, that it is instrumentalized by the opposition parties like the Popular Party and the
far-right party, Vox, Max.
FOSTER: OK. Pau in Madrid, thank you so much. We can indeed go to Ceuta now. Chief International Correspondent Clarissa Ward is there for us. So,
what's the scene there, Clarissa?
CLARISSA WARD, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Max. Well, we just arrived literally minutes ago and as you can probably see the scene
behind me, it is a pretty extraordinary turnout here for what is a very small population. Just 84,000 people actually live here in Ceuta and it
appears that most of them are taking to the streets today.
The sign that you're seeing everywhere, on placards, on people's T-shirts is Ceuta is not for sale and Ceuta will defend itself. We're also seeing a
lot of slogans about Spain, stay with us, don't leave us, Spain, thank you for not leaving us alone.
The mood here at the moment, I would say, is defiant and I would say it is not particularly political but it is nonetheless extremely charged, Max,
because the situation on the ground here has become untenable, both for the residents of Ceuta and for the migrants who are still here, who have now
been here for more than a month. As you remember, 70,000 to 80,000 of them crossed just over a month ago.
According to the Spanish government, about 5,000 still remain. Ceuta's municipality actually says they believe the real number could be as many as
9,000, including thousands of migrants and there just isn't the infrastructure here to host them.
So, you have a situation whereby ordinary people who are living here feel threatened, feel vulnerable, feel overwhelmed and you do not feel, many of
them, that the Spanish government is moving quickly to resolve this situation. In the process, people -- in order to give those migrants a
life.
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But at the moment, a lot of them are sitting, living in the mooches -- and set fire to that camp. So, it is clearly incredibly tense and hard
atmosphere here in Ceuta. There is --
FOSTER: Clarissa Ward there in Ceuta. We're struggling to hear her. So, we'll leave it there. But you can see how feelings really are running high
there.
Still to come tonight on the show, a breaking development in Lindsay Clancy's trial as jurors struggle to reach a verdict. We're live outside
the courthouse for you in Massachusetts.
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FOSTER: Breaking news on my fifth day of the Lindsay Clancy murder trial jury period. For the second time, jurors have notified the judge they are
deadlocked. Clancy is the mother charged with murder in the deaths of her three young children in 2023.
CNN's Ivan Rodriguez is covering the trial from Massachusetts joins us now. There really is no shift in this jury and it's -- you know, they've been
considering it for a long time.
IVAN RODRIGUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Max, absolutely. And we have no sense, right, of what the impasse may be for this jury during deliberations. We
would love to know what it is. But at this point, as you mentioned, that second note has been sent from the jury now to the judge. This one saying,
quote, "After much deliberation, we are not able to reach a unanimous decision."
Now, the judge brought the jury back into the courtroom like he did when the jury sent that first note in. And read those special instructions,
which we have been discussing, right, the dynamite charge, the Tuey- Rodriguez charge, as it's known here in the state of Massachusetts, which gives the jury a final chance to try and reach a unanimous verdict. Now,
again, this is something that we were expecting as a potential outcome. If this jury remained deadlocked, which it seems like they continue to be.
Now, the idea of the Tuey-Rodriguez charge is to try and blow up any impasse to avoid a hung jury and eventually a mistrial. And this
instruction asked jurors to consider the reasonableness of their own opinions and others and to continue deliberating toward a verdict. Part of
it goes on to say, quote, "You to consider that this is desirable that the case be decided, according to instructions from the State of
Massachusetts."
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So, now the big question, Max, is what will the rest of the day look like here? Typically, jurors have been requesting to leave right around 3:30
before 4:00 p.m. Eastern time. And we are approaching that here. Will we potentially get another note from the jury to the judge saying that they're
still at that impasse? They're still deadlocked, or will we see potentially a note from jurors asking to go home for the day and then those
deliberations would continue tomorrow? But as one legal expert who I heard put it, this really is the fourth quarter when it comes to a mistrial.
FOSTER: OK. Back with you when we get more on this. Thank you so much for joining us from there. We'll be right back after this break, too.
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FOSTER: British prime minister, Andy Burnham, has taken on lawmakers in his first Prime Minister's Question session in Parliament today. He was
pressed on government spending, welfare and tax. Burnham insisted that his government would tackle government debt and ease the cost-of-living crisis
at the same time. However, opposition Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch questioned his approach.
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KEMI BADENOCH, CONSERVATIVE PARTY LEADER: He wants to bring the welfare bill down by spending more money. Yesterday, the prime minister told the
House that his summer of promises would be paid for by re-prioritizing within government. So, what exactly has he cut?
ANDY BURNHAM, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Well, in terms of what has he cut, tax is the simple answer to that question.
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FOSTER: The grilling comes a day after U.K. Parliament returned from summer recess, which the British prime minister spent focus almost
exclusively on domestic issues, travelling the country, talking about that cost-of-living crisis.
We'll be back in just a moment with his other engagement today.
And here we are already.
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