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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: A renewed diplomatic push to end the war in Ukraine. ONE WORLD starts right now.
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JD VANCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think the president is going to say, is it President Putin? Look, are you serious? Are you real
about this?
I think, honestly, that President Putin, he doesn't quite know how to get out of the war.
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GOLODRYGA: Donald Trump speaks separately with his Russian and Ukrainian counterparts.
Also ahead, every 10 minutes, a woman is killed by an intimate partner or family member. We put the spotlight on the femicide.
And later --
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Nintendo games.
Hello, everyone. Live from New York, I'm Bianna Golodryga. Zain is off today. You are watching the second hour of "ONE WORLD."
We begin with the White House telephone diplomacy. U.S. President Donald Trump has been speaking to the Russian president about the war in Ukraine
after earlier speaking with the Ukrainian leader.
Vladimir Putin has ignored previous proposals for a 30-day ceasefire and passed on a chance to meet President Zelenskyy in Turkey.
Now the talks come as Russia unleashes its largest drone attack since it invaded Ukraine more than three years ago.
Moscow launched more than 270 drones over the weekend, mostly targeting Kyiv. At least three people were killed more than a dozen injured.
CNN's Stephen Collinson is in Washington. But let's begin with our chief global affairs analyst, Matthew Chance, in London. So we're still waiting
on the readouts from both calls, actually, Matthew.
But what do you make of the fact that President Trump spoke with President Zelenskyy prior to the phone call with President Putin? I believe the
choreography had initially been planned as reverse.
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN CHIEF GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Well, first of all, Bianna, it's our understanding that the call between President Trump and
President Putin is still underway. We're obviously expecting a readout after that point.
And in terms of the significance of what we can read into that -- that sequencing, sort of changing ahead of the call, and President Trump calling
Vladimir Zelenskyy of Ukraine before he spoke with President Putin.
Well, I mean -- I mean, it's difficult to attract -- attach much significance to it beyond the fact that it's a generally positive sign from
a Ukrainian point of view because it implies that President Trump is going into this conversation with President Putin, the Russian leader, with the,
you know -- you know, with the -- the interests of Ukraine and with the concerns of Ukraine, very sort of fresh in his mind.
Remember, there have been other allies as well, European figures in particular, who have already had conversations with President Trump in the
lead-up and ahead of this phone call with President Putin.
Because all of them sort of understand very well, and it's been their sort of observation, that, you know, the person who speaks last to President
Trump is sometimes the one whose -- whose opinion he is most convinced by. He's been very changeable in the past. He's lurched between supporting
Russia or supporting Ukraine, being critical of Volodymyr Zelenskyy and being critical of Putin.
We'll see what comes out of this -- of this conversation with Putin. But, you know, look, it -- it's been underway now for, well, we don't know quite
how long it was meant to start about an hour ago. We don't know exactly when it started.
But it is a remarkable opportunity and a rare opportunity for Vladimir Putin to induce President Trump with business proposals and to, you know,
kind of flatter him in any way that he sees fit that would best, you know, serve Russia's interests.
And undoubtedly, that's what Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, is now doing.
GOLODRYGA: It is officially the second time that these two leaders have spoken since President Trump has returned to office for his second term.
Matthew Chance, stand by for us.
Stephen Collinson, I do want to bring you in because judging by the scale of that massive drone attack over the weekend, the largest since the war
began, the fact that it was President Trump who had proposed a 30-day ceasefire, was President Putin that proposed a meeting, and yet, he didn't
live up to either of those proposals.
It was President Zelenskyy who said, yes, I'm willing to have a 30-day ceasefire and actually flew to Turkey.
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What positions does that put President Trump in here, given that, historically, we know he has been rather tough on Ukraine and not as much
on Russia? Are we seeing a change in that any time?
STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: I think I would be rather skeptical at this point that Trump will change just because of the Russian
actions after all. Throughout this process, since his return to office, there have been small shows of frustration on the part of the president,
the administration with Russia.
And as soon as Trump comes out with a criticism a few hours later, he will then tone it down. So it would go very much against the grain of Trump's
dealings with Putin, where he to suddenly become more forceful towards the Russian leader.
I thought those quotes by JD Vance, the vice president you played, at the start were very interesting because Vance was saying that he believes that
Putin doesn't seem to know how to get out of the war.
All the evidence suggests that Putin doesn't want to get out of the war, and this may be a complete misreading on the U.S. part of his statements to
Trump that he really is interested in peace for all of the diplomacy. If what comes out of this conversation between Trump and Putin is a Russian
agreement to enter into some kind of process, perhaps even to have direct talks between Trump and Putin, I think the U.S. side will interpret this as
progress, but at the same time, the Russian side may just use this to keep stringing along Trump, the U.S., without completely alienating him and
continuing to fight because they think they're in a better position on the battlefield.
So I think, as often in the case of U.S. diplomacy, we have a president who is in a hurry and people who he's dealing with who see their great interest
in not going so fast.
GOLODRYGA: And Matthew Chance, as Stephen noted, we have Vice President Vance reiterate what the Secretary of State said over the weekend. And as
the U.S. isn't going to spin its wheels much longer here and being rope-a- doped as well, that having been said, the response or the question really is, what does the United States do next? What options does it have?
And it appears to still have options on the table. The Europeans have been steadfast about wanting to see more sanctions levied against Russia.
President Trump has alluded to that in previous posts on social media, including secondary sanctions. He hasn't resorted to doing that yet.
How is that being interpreted by the Kremlin?
CHANCE: No, you're right. He hasn't resorted to that yet, but it's certainly the kind of leverage that President Trump has at his disposal
should he choose to use it. But it would be a very aggressive move. And it would affect not just Russia. It would undoubtedly affect Russia's
straining economy, by the way.
But it would also affect countries that trade with Russia, China, India. It would affect the European Union, of all being big customers, of Russian
natural resources, even over the course of the war.
In terms of the issue of -- of whether Putin wants an end to this war or not, I think it's pretty clear he does want an end to the war. He said that
repeatedly, but he only wants it on -- on his terms. And those terms are so hardline, they're so severe, they would involve Ukraine accepting, you
know, territorial losses of areas of the country that it still holds, physically, for example.
You know, demilitarization is -- is also something that -- that Putin has repeatedly stated he wants from Ukraine.
He would not do that through negotiation and through diplomacy. Peskov, his spokesman, said that just before this phone call began. But he's also
demonstrated that if he doesn't get that, he's not going to capitulate. And so we are in a situation now where it seems that President Trump, the U.S.
leader, is going into his phone call.
And, you know, it's hard to see how he's going to come out of it with -- with anything substantial in terms of progress towards lasting peace.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. No doubt President Putin has invested in the long haul here. The economy has turned into a wartime footing that's been supporting
this war for many, many months now. So, yes, Matthew, I guess, and Stephen, you're both right, President Putin does want an end to this war, but not nearly on the timetable that the rest
of the world wants to see it, that Ukraine wants to see it, and not nearly giving any options to agree to a settlement before he gets what he wants as
well.
Stephen Collinson and Matthew Chance, thank you so much.
Well, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu acknowledges the country could lose allies if famine occurs in Gaza, stemming from Israel's 11-week
blockade of aid into the shattered territory.
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The Israeli military now says that it will allow what it describes as a basic amount of food to enter Gaza. You are looking at video of the first
food aid trucks bound for the area in almost three months.
Trump administration's Middle East envoy has been speaking about the devastating hunger in Gaza.
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STEVE WITKOFF, U.S. MIDDLE EAST ENVOY: We do not want to see a humanitarian crisis, and we will not allow it to occur on President Trump's watch.
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GOLODRYGA: More than 100 people have been killed in intense overnight airstrikes on Gaza. That's according to health officials there. Alongside
the airstrikes, Israel has launched an extensive new ground operation called Gideon's Chariots.
David Sanger is CNN's political and national security analyst and the author of "New Cold Wars: China's Rise, Russia's Invasion, and America's
Struggle to Defend the West." And he joins us now from southern Italy. David, always good to see you.
So your paper, "The New York Times," characterizes this new offensive as potentially, potentially a bluff from Prime Minister Netanyahu. Obviously
warning of a major ground operation.
They've been bombarding Gaza over the weekend. We've seen scores killed the majority of them civilians. And yet, there -- there is this notion that
perhaps this is a -- a prime minister who is wanting to call bluff and wanting to, at least, portray a sense of empowerment and involvement there
in Gaza while also leaving the door open for these ceasefire hostage negotiation talks to proceed in Qatar. How are you interpreting this?
DAVID SANGER, CNN POLITICAL AND NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Well, it could be a bluff. But remember that all during the Biden administration, the sort
of operating thought for the United States was Israel cannot be occupying and governing Gaza. That the last time that happened, it was a disaster. It
would be a disaster for the Palestinians, but it would also be a disaster over time for Israel.
You're not hearing that from the Trump administration. What you're hearing from them is, we want to see the hostages released and they've gotten a
good number of them, including the last American hostage that we know of released or at least the last one that we know is -- is alive.
But the administration appears to be sort of taking a hands-off policy to the question of how Netanyahu deals with Gaza.
The last time we heard about this from President Trump, it was with his idea that you would have a development that he said would be the Riviera of
the Middle East. And when that was shot down, he seemed to largely lose interest.
GOLODRYGA: He's, however, during his visit to the region last week, which notably did not include Israel, he did say that -- that he continues to
want to promote a -- a freedom zone for a day after, for Gazans there.
What more do you make of that? How realistic would that even be? Because you do have the Israeli government saying that they too will create these
sort of humanitarian safe zones. Many humanitarian agencies, however, say that that is not realistic and there is extreme concern about significant
aid and food getting in.
SANGER: That's right. You know, how -- how long have we been having this argument between the United States and the Israelis? It's gone on now since
just a few months after the horror of the October 7th terror attacks and the Israeli response.
And, you know, the United States tried an effort to bring aid in. You'll remember by building a pier that -- that didn't work. They tried to make
sure that certain gates were open so they could bring in U.N. aid. That has worked only sporadically.
We heard, as you said, what the president said during the trip, but we haven't seen much of a plan to go enforce that.
GOLODRYGA: I was struck by what former defense minister Yoav Gallant posted on Twitter and -- or on X. And he posted in Hebrew and just using the
translation available, he's suggesting, and once again criticizing the Netanyahu government for not having a day after plan in place.
And thus, Israel's government, which has long said that Hamas is hoarding the food and stealing it. In his view, he's saying if that's the case, you
should have long ago put forward a day after plan and leadership plan that did not include Hamas, that would not put you in this type of situation.
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Talk about the internal debate now within Israel and the pressure on Prime Minister Netanyahu from multiple sides.
SANGER: Sure. Well, you know, you've seen that as well. You know, you saw it during President Biden's first trip to Israel. It was the source of
considerable heat between him and Prime Minister Netanyahu. You saw it later on as the U.S. urged him to put together a day after plan.
The U.S. suggested one that involved the Palestinian Authority, which, of course, has been pretty weak elsewhere. And Prime Minister Netanyahu
largely rejected that, but never came up with an alternative other than to have what he called temporary Israeli control of the area that could then
be turned over to some other kind of authority, but he's never said what that is.
Now, there has been some discussion of having the Saudis and other Arab states create some kind of a -- of a governing authority there. But they
don't seem particularly eager to get into that as well.
And if there was a discussion of that during the president's trip, I don't- - I don't think we heard very much of it from the president himself.
I think you're going to see Prime Minister Netanyahu under increasing pressure. For that, it's a reason he's lost some members of his older
coalition. But, you know, he's hung on in -- in beyond the -- the expectations that many people add. And he probably thinks if he hung on
this long, he can continue to.
GOLODRYGA: Do you expect the U.S. to put additional pressure on him in -- in the meantime, at least to agree to what Witkoff has laid out as his --
his own plan, a temporary at least ceasefire that would see additional hostages, if not all of them released?
SANGER: I think you'll probably see some, but he has resisted it so far. And frankly, I mean, my read of the White House right now is there are much
more intent on the other two negotiations that are underway.
Mr. Witkoff's negotiation with Iran. And, of course, the discussion with Russia, which is taking place right now between President Trump and
President Putin about Ukraine.
And I get the sense that just the energy levels inside this White House are much higher on those two issues than they are on the question of the future
of Gaza.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Specifically on the Iran negotiations.
David Sanger, CNN --
SANGER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: -- political and national security analyst, thank you so much.
And still to come on CNN, former U.S. President Joe Biden's aggressive form of prostate cancer had spread to his bones, a following reaction to his
health diagnosis.
Also ahead, we'll look at the timing of that announcement just days before a tell-all book on Biden's health comes out.
Plus --
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Terrorism came knocking on the door of Palm Springs. We survived.
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GOLODRYGA: Authorities in California say they have identified the suspect in the bombing outside a fertility clinic. We have a live report with what
we know.
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GOLODRYGA: Former U.S. President Joe Biden is expressing gratitude after his office announced he's been diagnosed with prostate cancer.
Biden wrote on X, cancer touches us all. Like so many of you, Jill and I have learned that we are strongest in the broken places. Thank you for
lifting us up with the love and support.
His personal office announced Sunday that Biden's cancer has spread to his bones, and the former president, who is 82 years old, is reviewing
treatment options.
Messages of support for the ex-president are pouring in from across the political spectrum. Former President Barack Obama among those wishing him
well, saying nobody has done more to find breakthrough treatments for cancer in all of its forms than Joe. And I am certain that he will fight
this challenge with his trademark, resolve and grace. We pray for a fast and full recovery.
The revelation of Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis comes just days before a new book is set to be released. The book, co-authored by our Jake Tapper, looks
at Biden's health problems when he was in office.
Brian Stelter looks at the timing between these two events.
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BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA ANALYST: The timing of former President Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis is certainly dramatic, coming on the eve of a
blockbuster new book about his health and his time in the White House.
That book is "Original Sin" by CNN anchor, Jake Tapper, and "Axios" reporter, Alex Thompson.
The book has been getting a lot of pre-publication publicity and buzz, as well as a lot of pre orders, because of the damning new details it contains
about Biden's time in office and his decision to seek re-election in 2024.
At its heart, this is a book about mortality, about aging, about sickness, and it is framed by the authors as a tragic story.
So we'll see if that has more resonance in the wake of this cancer diagnosis news. The book has also dredged up a lot of debate about Biden in
the 2024 election. If you search his name on social media, you'll see what I mean. Many progressives defending Biden, saying that this is unfair to
him, and saying they don't want to hear about the past. Many conservatives saying they knew all along about Biden's infirmities, and arguing there was
a cover-up by the Biden White House.
Now, it'll be interesting to see if this book is received in a new light, now that this cancer diagnosis is public. I'm sure some observers will say
that the reporting in the book is even more important now, and that the diagnosis underscores the reporting.
Others might say it's unwelcome or unpleasant and unfair for the Bidens. It is notable that nothing in the book should be surprising to the Biden
family, since everyone mentioned the book was asked for comment ahead of time.
On Sunday night on CNN, David Axelrod said that conversations about Biden and about what the Democrats did in 2024 should be, quote, more muted now.
He said, those should be set aside for now, as Biden is struggling through this health crisis.
I've certainly seen others on social media making those same kinds of comments, and yet there are already conspiratorial ideas taking shape as
well. Donald Trump Jr., for example, on social media suggesting that this is being announced now, this cancer diagnosis, being announced now, so that
Biden will be viewed more sympathetically.
So those arguments are going to keep going back and forth. And there are other books in the works as well. At least one more big look back at 2024
decisions is coming out this summer.
So while the conversations may be more muted for the time being, they will still be taking place in the days, weeks, and months to come.
Brian Stelter, CNN.
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GOLODRYGA: Our thanks to Brian for that report.
Still to come for us, young and successful, and a target for murder. We'll look at the disturbing rise of women killed because they are women. Stay
with us.
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GOLODRYGA: Welcome back to "ONE WORLD." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
The murder of a 22-year-old Colombian model and social media influencer is sending shockwaves through that country. Maria Jose Estupinan was killed in
her home by a man who disguised himself as a delivery man to get close to her.
The killing is raising comparisons to the shooting just days earlier of a 23-year-old beauty influencer in Mexico who was shot during a livestream.
In both cases, officials say the women were likely the targets of gender- based killings, which are far more likely to happen to women than they are to men.
Now, these cases are often referred to as femicide, defined as the killing of a woman or girl because of her gender.
The U.N. estimates that one woman is killed every 10 minutes by a partner or close relative. There are some countries where femicide accounts for
more than 80 percent of female homicides.
As we said, most of these killings come at the hand of intimate partners or family members. An intimate partner's account for more than half of female
murders in Europe and the Americas.
It all points to a disturbing reality that for many women, the people they know best are the ones most likely to harm them.
Time now for "The Exchange." Joining me is Paula Avila-Guillen. She is the executive director of Women's Equality Center. Paula, thank you so much for
joining us.
So, obviously, femicide isn't unique to Latin America, but just looking at these two cases both in Mexico and Colombia.
In Colombia, there were 633 femicides in 2022 and 630 in 2023. That's according to a foundation which tracks this. And in -- in Colombia in
Mexico since 2001, at least 50,000 women have been murdered according to the United Nations.
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So, how does Latin America fare when it comes to femicide relative to the rest of the world?
PAULA AVILA-GUILLEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WOMEN'S EQUALITY CENTER: Thank you so much for covering this important issue. Unfortunately, Latin America is
considered one of the most dangerous place to be a woman.
We believe that roughly around 11 women and girls are murdered every day just because they are women. And there is a reason why Latin America has
been, and Latin America advocates like myself, have been pushing to try and make sure that we make a distinction in our criminal laws regarding
homicide and femicide.
And it is because, unfortunately, something that happens way too often. I do think it's important to connect the femicide in the majority of the
cases comes as the final result of something that had a warning even in the case of Maria Jose. She already had been victim of domestic violence, and
her murder happens just a few days after she has won a case against ex- partner because of domestic violence.
So the majority of the cases of femicide don't happen out of the blue. They receive warnings. And when those warnings are not taken seriously, I know
investigating in the way they need to be investigated, and there is no accountability, then you see the rise of femicide.
GOLODRYGA: You said the number one component here behind these murders, these gender-specific murders, the femicides is patriarchy, and the idea
that that men are superior to women. And before the label of femicide, the charge of femicide was created in a number of these countries. They were
considered a crime of passion, and thus the charges that came with them were lower.
Have we seen any sort of change and decline in femicides since that term and the charges that come with it were put into law?
AVILA-GUILLEN: I don't think that we have seen a change in terms of the acts happening in the contrary. Since the pandemic, we have seen a rise of
gender-based violence in general and a rise of femicide as well.
But what I do think is different is that we are having more awareness of it, and there is a lot more accountability. When you were saying a crime of
passion, right, you are justifying the reason why somebody got killed because of who they are and you're lowering those penalties, you're --
don't even having accountability. You're not even counting those cases, so we don't know how big of a problem it is.
But this happened in these since we have them now in the criminal courts, we can actually also track them and know that there is way bigger of a
problem than even people expected it to be. But something that advocates we have been saying for a very long time, now we have the data to corroborate.
I mentioned Mexico and the fact that since 2001, there have been at least 50,000 women murdered in that country, the majority of them, as we noted,
likely the victims of femicide.
The country now has a female president. I'm not saying that that should change the trajectory of femicides overnight. But is this something that
politicians, specifically, are prioritizing more, should they be doing more to address this issue?
AVILA-GUILLEN: I do think that having more women in position of powers help us to send the overall message that we belong in every space, and therefore
we should be respected.
But what we have seen also is that the more women are in power, social media harassment and social media related violence has increased as well.
The level of violence that goes in common those women who are in public platforms and in public positions is much more aggressive than what it is
against other people who are in public positions. So as women rise in position of power, the level of aggressiveness and violence also rise.
GOLODRYGA: You mentioned the role of social media. The fact that these two women that we noted, both in Colombia and Mexico were -- were known social
media influencers, what -- what danger exists for women with high-profiles on social media now?
AVILA-GUILLEN: I think that for all of us and probably you face it as well, anybody who is in social media trying to put their boys, be out there,
occupy the space, we receive a level of aggression that is much higher than others.
Now, it's impossible to really detect that -- and because there is not enough resources, enough investigations to detect if that online violence
completely transferred to physical violence. But what we can tell is that when we tolerate and with social media platforms tolerate that type of
violence against women, and there is no accountability for people posting horrible things on social media, very violent horrible things in social
media because they feel anonymous, we are also sending a message that it's OK to treat women that way, right?
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So I -- I think that there is two parts for me, one part is what legally we can do and what people with platforms either journalism, how we are
reporting this issue, right? How people who have big platforms, men or women, use it to -- to speak against violence against women. And then there
is the cultural part of it and it's how we are going to change the way that we see women in general.
GOLODRYGA: And, Paula, tell me how the Women's Equality Center and the work that you are doing, is helping to make this change.
AVILA-GUILLEN: We work with partners on the ground in how we create communications campaigns to raise awareness. We also work on specific
issues related to reproductive rights. And the reason why this is relevant is because when we believe that the government should have control over a
women's body, we are sending a message that we should not be autonomous, that we don't have the capacity to make decisions over our own beings,
right?
So it all -- it -- when it -- when it comes to women issues, everything is connected and we also work on governments to make sure that they are
speaking out in about these issues in a way that makes sense, in a way they -- they -- they really sends the clear message, the violence against women,
it's not tolerated and it's going to be prosecuted and that there is consequences when there are actions against women.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And these are conversations and changes that obviously affect not just women but really need to prioritize the men in their lives
and really change how the culture approaches this issue.
Paula Avila-Guillen, thank you so much for taking the time and all the work that you're doing.
AVILA-GUILLEN: Thank you for your time.
GOLODRYGA: And still to come for us.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you monitor every single person every day? No, we don't have the bodies to do that.
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GOLODRYGA: Officials in Louisiana want answers as to how a group of inmates were able to escape a New Orleans jail. The latest on the urgent manhunt,
just ahead.
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GOLODRYGA: "Too easy. LOL." That was the message left behind when 10 inmates in New Orleans broke out of jail on Friday. That all happened when
the person monitoring them stepped away to get food. Then the inmates busted through a wall behind a toilet and crawled out of the hole, as you
can see right here.
The inmates then ran out of the prison through a loading door. Their absence going unnoticed for several hours. Three of them have been
recaptured. And Louisiana's governor wants answers.
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GOV. JEFF LANDRY (R-LA): This massive jailbreak, which my statistics tell me could be the largest jailbreak in the history of the state, should never
have happened.
And the public deserves to know who, what, and how this happened. The responsibility for answering those questions will fall to the Attorney
General. Her office will lead the investigation into this jailbreak.
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GOLODRYGA: Our Rafael Romo is following all the latest developments from Atlanta and he joins us now with more.
I mean, Rafael, too easy, LOL. It's just an embarrassment for authorities. They're the fact that not one, but 10 inmates were able to escape and then
it took hours before that was finally even noticed. What more are we learning?
RAFAEL ROMO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. That's a very good point, Bianna. And who's responsible for all this, right? It's something that they
still are trying to figure out. Then Louisiana officials say they have received some leads about the escape inmates' whereabouts from other
states, but those leads so far anyway haven't panned out.
Louisiana State Police Superintendent, Robert Hodges, said they have what he called actionable intelligence on all seven of those fugitives. And he
says the escapees were constantly changing locations and had help from friends and family. He added that they hope that in the coming days, if not
in the coming hours, law enforcement will be able to apprehend all of them.
But once again, as for the public's help, in that respect, the reward for money, for information leading to the arrest of any of the escape inmates
has increased to $20,000 when you add all the money from the FBI, the ATF, and crime stoppers.
Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry said that the massive jailbreak may very well be the largest in history of the state and something that should have
never happened, but he also says he's opening an investigation.
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LANDRY: I believe that the majority of citizens in this state and in this city want law and order and security in their neighborhoods, safe streets
for their children, and that they are frustrated with the broken criminal justice system that places criminals and victims and diminishes the quality
of life here in the state. They deserve better and our citizens deserve accountability and transparency.
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ROMO: In this investigation, he has ordered is going to look into how it was possible for 10 inmates to break free from what is supposed to be a
secure facility.
In addition to the investigation by the Attorney General, Landry also said that he has ordered an audit of the Orleans Parish Correctional Facility.
He's also ordered the removal of all DOC inmates held at that facility.
And Landry also said, he will be issuing an executive order that instructs the state inspector general to get an inventory of all pretrial detainees
and those awaiting sentences.
And, Bianna, according to the governor, nine of the 10 escaped inmates had been in pretrial detention for years. Imagine that. People in Louisiana and
neighbors states were hoping the rest of the escaped inmates would have been captured by now, but Hodges said only three out of the 10 have been
captured so far as, something that hasn't changed since Saturday morning.
Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Rafael Romo, you'll stay on the story for us. Thank you.
Well, police have now identified the suspect and the bombing outside a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California. Authorities say a 25-year-old
suspect is the suspected bomber and they believe he died in the blast. They say the suspect left behind an anti-pro-life manifesto and was attempting
to live stream the attack.
Matthew Rodriguez with our affiliate KCAL/KCBS has more.
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MATTHEW RODRIGUEZ, WEB PRODUCER, KCAL/KCBS (voice-over): This whole building exploding.
An intense explosion rocking Downtown Palm Springs Saturday morning, leaving one dead and four injured, the blast sending debris flying up to
250 yards away and blowing out windows for blocks.
AKIL DAVIS, FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN CHARGE, LOS ANGELES FIELD OFFICE: Make no mistake. This is an intentional act of terrorism. This is probably
one of the largest bombing investigations that we've had in Southern California. It's on scale of the Aliso Viejo bombing in Orange County.
RODRIGUEZ (voice-over): Law enforcement says the person of interest targeted the American reproductive center.
Dr. Maher Abdallah, the owner and director of the center, says it's an IVF lab that helps with fertility treatment.
MAHER ABDALLAH, OWNER AND DIRECTOR, AMERICAN REPRODUCTIVE CENTER: My biggest concern was obviously my staff and, you know, the embryos that we
have in storage. Fortunately for us, our staff is unharmed and the IVF lab is intact, untouched, unharmed. So the embryos are -- are safe.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN Security correspondent Josh Campbell is in Los Angeles for us.
And, Josh, you're learning new details about the suspect. What are authorities saying?
JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Yes. We just spoke to the police chief in Palm Springs who tells CNN that this suspect had a prolific online
presence.
In fact, the police chief going so far to say that in his view, there were red flags here that were missed by people who were connected to this
attacker that should have been reported to law enforcement.
He said, for example, that the attacker had been on YouTube discussing various types of explosives. Again, the police chief there was admonishing
anyone who knows something about someone who might commit violence to speak up. He said that his mantra is, if you see it, you own it. You have to call
authorities.
I'm also learning from a law enforcement source that authorities are aware of an online recording from someone that claimed that they were about to
attack in an in vitro fertilization clinic. This person described themselves as anti-life, saying their anti-IVF authorities are working to
determine whether that audio recording was indeed the suspect.
So they're looking into him. They're also -- excuse me. They're also looking at this massive crime scene that you see on your screen here right
now. Take a listen to the top FBI agent in Los Angeles describing this massive explosion.
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DAVIS: This is probably the largest bombing scene that we've had in Southern California. This does eclipse the bombing matter in Aliso Viejo.
It's that big. And just for reference, to throw pieces of vehicle hundreds of feet in the air and then several blocks away, you can use your imagine,
imagine how big that -- that -- that bomb device was.
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CAMPBELL: And, Bianna, we'll end on this because we often don't get a chance to talk about good news amid these times -- types of incidents.
We're told that all of the embryos in that facility are safe. They were not lost. And the police chief says that is because two particular first
responders, an FBI agent and a local fire department official rushed into the smoldering building in order to try to get the electricity back up and
running for those incubators. They also went to another collapsed part of the building to try to retrieve medical records that they could then
provide to families that were getting treatment there. So again, the police honoring the work of those first responders for saving those embryos.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Thank goodness for the quick thinking actions by those first responders.
Josh Campbell, thank you so much.
CAMPBELL: You bet.
GOLODRYGA: And still to come for us, taking on revenge porn. President Donald Trump said to sign a bill into law that targets deep fakes and helps
protect victims. How it's holding tech companies accountable. That's just ahead.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. We've just learned from Russian state media that the phone call between presidents Trump and Putin has concluded. Matthew Chance
joins us now from London with more.
We're seeing some of the first headlines again from Russian state media. What are they saying, Matthew?
CHANCE: Yes. You've got a number of Russian state media platforms putting out what they've clearly has been a briefing following this telephone
conversation "TASS," which is a state news agency in Russia, saying that Putin had a conversation with Trump that lasted more than two hours.
The conversation "TASS" reports was frank and substantive Putin said. So apparently there's been a -- a -- a briefing by President Putin to Russian
media immediately following the call.
It goes on that Putin thanked Trump for his support in the resumption of direct talks to Moscow and Kyiv. And so that's a reference to the fact that
the U.S. played a -- a role in bringing the two sides together in recent talks in -- in Istanbul, the first direct talks, of course, between Russia
and Ukraine for several years.
It also said that President Trump expressed his position on the ceasefire during the conversation with Vladimir Putin, but no indication of what
Vladimir Putin's response to that position was. But it was, we know in the past, Putin has repeatedly rejected the idea of a 30-day ceasefire, instead
called for all of his demands, his maximalist position to be implemented before fighting comes to an end. Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: Matthew, also seeing these headlines again from, I believe, "Interfax," another Russian state media publication that Putin is focusing
on the root causes of this war, which he says needs to be eliminated.
Just remind our viewers as to his line of thinking that he's repeated throughout the start of this war as to its root causes.
CHANCE: You know, first of all, "Interfax" isn't a state news agency, it's a privately owned company inside Russia, but in terms -- so it doesn't
necessarily reflect exactly the government position.
But in terms of the root causes, well, look, Russia has been, you know, pretty clear in -- in setting out what it thinks should happen if this
conflict in Ukraine, what it calls its special military operation, is going to come to an end. And it's talking about territorial concessions on the
part of Ukraine.
It has annexed whole areas, four areas, in fact, five, in total, in fact, four areas, though, inside Ukraine, some of which it doesn't entirely
control. They're still controlled by Ukraine enforces. It wants those areas accepted as being part of the Russian Federation. It wants what it calls
the denazification of Ukraine. That's a pretty vague term, but it refers to the, for instance, the reintroduction of Russian as being an official
language inside -- inside Ukraine, amongst other things as well.
And, of course, Putin wants the demilitarization of Ukraine, it doesn't want Ukraine to have a substantial armed force of the kind that it
currently operates.
You know, in other words, you know, the -- all of these sort of demands that Putin has been sort of talking about from the outset of this conflict
three and a half years ago are to entirely, I suppose, subjugate Ukraine and to make sure that it is not a sort of independent viable country on
Russia's Western flank.
Moscow wants to control Ukraine, to at least pull the strings in -- in -- in what it does and -- and -- and what it, you know, what organization it
joins, for instance.
It's one of its root causes is the idea, one of its root demands, by the way, is that -- is that Ukraine does not join NATO, the Western military
alliance. And so that's something that's been pretty much accepted already by President Trump and his administration.
But I mean, what -- what we're seeing now, if -- if -- if this is indeed what President Putin said to President Trump is yet again a restatement of
President Putin's, of Russia's sort of demands that it's had from the outset and don't seem to have been sort of changed, despite all the efforts
to sort of extract some sort of compromise from the Kremlin.
GOLODRYGA: On this argument, and by the way, most of those demands would be viewed as non-starters, not only from Ukraine, but -- and its Western
allies, but even from the United States at this point.
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But -- and the -- the pursuit of expanding this war and dragging it out as far as possible, sort of rope-a-doping the West, including the President of
the United States, which has been one argument made by analysts.
President Putin appears to say that he's willing to work on yet another memorandum on future peace talks. Talk about how that will likely be
received.
CHANCE: Well, I mean, look -- I mean, President Putin has settled along that he very much wants to bring an end to the conflict. He would rather
achieve the objectives of what he calls his special military operation by politics and diplomacy instead of warfare. But, you know, he's -- he's made
no indication that -- that he's prepared to offer compromises.
So, yes, he wants peace, he wants to talk about peace, but he wants peace on Russia's terms. And he hasn't really moved from that position, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Matthew Chance, we'll be following the latest headlines. Again, this is just reporting from Russian media. We're awaiting
to hear for a readout from the United States and the White House as well.
Thank you so much, Matthew.
And that does it for "ONE WORLD." I'm Bianna Golodryga. Thanks for watching. Don't go anywhere. I'll be right back with "Amanpour."
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