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Texas Officials Give Update on Deadly Flood; Texas Official: 5 Campers, One Counselor Missing from Camp Mystic; Death Toll From Texas Flash Floods Rises to 119; More Than 160 People Still Missing in Texas Floods; Trump Says he Doesn't Know Who Ordered Ukraine Weapons Pause; Fully Operational Apple-1 Computer Goes to Auction. Aired 11a-12p ET
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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Hello, everyone. Live from New York. I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ZAIN ASHER, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: I'm Zain Asher. You are watching "One World". We are following multiple developing stories this hour. Russia
fired a record number of drones in Ukraine overnight.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, the onslaught came just hours after Donald Trump criticized Vladimir Putin's lack of commitment to a peace deal. And on
Monday, the U.S. President also promised to restore military aid to Ukraine after a pause in some weapon shipments last week. Sources say Secretary of
Defense, Pete Hegseth authorized that pause without informing the White House beforehand.
ASHER: Yeah, we are also following the aftermath of the deadly flooding in Central Texas. You're seeing a live podium on your screen that's out of
Kerrville, Texas. Any moment now, literally any moment now we are expecting officials in that hard hit area to talk about just, you know, the update in
terms of searching for survivors, and also just giving us an update on operations as well. We'll bring that to you live as soon as it happens.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, we're also learning the scale of the tragedy is worse than first thought. At least 111 people have died. More than 170 people are
still missing in Texas, officials are facing mounting questions about the warning systems in place.
Let's bring in Deanne Criswell, she's the Former Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA. Deanne, welcome back to the
program. As we are awaiting this press conference, and forgive us once it begins, we will have to end this conversation and then we'll continue
speaking after.
But we know the number of missing, the death toll, has been rising, and we're expecting that to continue to be the case. The Texas Governor even a
few days ago warning of that, because so many of these families and those who have been lost weren't registered somewhere.
I mean, these weren't just camp officials or campers that their whereabouts were known. It's people who lived along the Guadalupe River who didn't
alert people to the fact that they were either living there or they would be camping there over the Fourth of July weekend.
And so, we had a sense that this number was going to be much higher than the original figures, and sadly, that is the case. In terms of an alert
system --
GOLODRYGA: And Deanne, these officials are on time, and they are starting this press conference. Let's listen in, and then we'll talk on the other
end.
SHERIFF LARRY L. LEITHA, KERR COUNTY, TEXAS: Let me kind of break down the numbers for you. On adults, there's 59 unidentified 14. Children 36
unidentified 13. Camp Mystic currently still has missing five campers and one counselor.
Officials report there are 161 missing people in Kerr County area. Community members are asked not to conduct debris management of their
property until directed by law enforcement. There is also a no burn ban in Kerr County at this time till further notice.
Let me give you a visual. I know probably -- probably all of y'all have been in our community capturing the aftermath of this disaster. But with
that said, also take note that Kerr County is 1100 square miles of beautiful complex hill country.
There are rural areas that may experience extended response times, areas where cell service is spotty, where the area is single lane bridges and low
water crossings. Sometimes evacuations is not the safest sometimes it's better to shelter in place.
The Hill Country is not a one size fit all place. First responders from emergency services throughout Kerr County promptly responded to the recent
emergency as the situation unfolded. As with other significant events that are emergencies services encounter.
This incident will be reviewed you have my word. When it -- when or if necessary if improvements need to be made, improvements will be made. What
I'd like to do right now is kind of give you a breakdown. You know, I believe the latest report I had, we over have 2100 people out here at some
capacity on this incident.
As far as Kerr County Sheriff's Office right now, what our office is currently doing, it's kind of an -- it's an all-hands-on deck. Everybody we
got are out here. But also, we have additional 2000 plus people helping us. But as far as our patrol division, you know they're right now, they're
involved in answering calls.
You have to remember, we still got day to day calls. We have to handle. But they're also involved in different kinds of rescue and recovery efforts.
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My CID Division, Criminal Investigation Division is assisting with operations at the funeral home. They're also assisting with identification
process. My SOD Division Special Operations Division is in searching through heavy debris with heavy equipment. They're distributing assets for
the Texas Game Wardens.
They are also involved in recovery operations. Also, they're working with DPS special agents on all recovery processes and with the volunteer fire
departments. Our communications is overseeing the communication operation liaison with DPS also.
Our Emergency Management Doug Thomas (ph) is in the EOC center. Also, with my Chief they're both in the EOC Center. At this time, I brought a couple
of the guys. I was going to let Captain Jason Waldrop (ph) say a few words. Jason has been in the field, hands on deck this whole time. I hadn't been
able to get a hell out of here a lot. There's a lot to manage here.
He's actually witnessed several things. He's kind of going to give you a few ideas and updates on what's going on the field, where he's been and
what he's been seeing, and then we'll turn over to Sergeant Jack. Captain Jason Walter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, the Sheriff just wanted me kind of give you an update on some of the things that we as a Sheriff Department can do. One
particular thing that we have done in order to help assist in locating the missing is we have coordinated a team with a local construction company,
the Texas Department of Public Safety, some fire departments from within Kerr County, a fire department from Acuna, Mexico, and we are looking and
searching the deeply impacted flood debris along the river.
So, these areas are where a lot of this debris is bottlenecked. So, it's a lot of large trees, it's a lot of the vehicles, it's a lot of home
structures have built up in these areas. So, we are using very heavy equipment, excavators, skid loaders, to remove this material and do a deep
impact search where this is.
So, what we ask is for those who are out there working, the local residents, the families of the missing, maybe even some of the search
teams. If you see these very large excavators working, please avoid these areas. We are trying to control these work sites.
We have spotters on the ground, so as if materials being removed, we are looking for anything of a sign of a person that may be within this
material. These operators have very limited vision with these large excavators, so please avoid these areas that they're working.
We're still spotting areas up and down the river where we can take apart these materials and hopefully locate some more of the missing. So that's
one main thing that we've been doing along the river to help this process. Thank you.
JONATHAN LAMB, KERRVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT: Morning, Jonathan Lamb Kerrville Police Department. We want to remind folks that if you've
reported a loved one missing and they've returned home safely or been found safely. It's vitally important that you let us know that that person is no
longer among the missing. We need to keep an accurate count, as accurate as possible.
So, if you've reported somebody missing and they've been recovered safely, please let us know. Go to the website, kerrvillemissing.dps.texas.gov or
call 830-258-1111. Once again. kerrvillemissing.dps.texas.gov 830-258-1111. We are actively looking, actively working to ensure that we have an
accurate count so that we know who to look for.
And now I want to talk to the people here in this community inside the city limits of Kerrville. People in Kerr County, few things we know that folks
are beginning to clean up. We have large debris piles. We ask them not to use heavy equipment to take down those debris piles until they've been
checked by a search party.
Because it's possible there are victims in that debris pile. We don't want to disturb that. Please give us a call our non-emergency numbers at the
police department, the sheriff's department, and let us know that you've got a debris pile that needs to be checked before you begin that level of
cleanup.
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Sheriff Leitha mentioned the burn ban that's county wide. We need people to respect that do not burn during this time. And we continue to ask people to
steer clear the area and let our first responders' work. Again, this operation is ongoing and continuous.
Our first responders are trying to get to places to do their jobs, and people coming here from outside the community and people within the
community who want to go sightsee and look at the river see the flood damage. It's making our job very hard. We ask folks to give us room to
work.
I want to talk a little bit about the events that happened on the morning of July 4th, what the Kerrville Police Department and other first
responders were doing in those early morning hours. I want to start outside of Kerrville, out in Hunt.
For those of you who went out there yesterday with the Governor, you all know that Highway 39 crisscrosses the Guadalupe again and again and again.
And all of those low water crossings when they flood, they create islands where you can't get in and you can't get out, trapping people in their
homes, trapping people in vehicles.
And that's what happened on the morning of July 4th. One of our patrol sergeants lives out there in Hunt, and he got up and got ready to go to
work, and he realized when he hit the intersection of FM 1340, and Highway 39 that he was trapped on an island that was Hunt, Texas. And he saw
people, dozens of people, trapped on roots.
He saw people trapped in swift moving water. He gave them encouragement over his public address system in his vehicle, he told them to be strong,
that he would get to them as quickly as he could, and to hang on and he knew he needed help.
He went to another detective, Kerrville Police Department, detective who lives out there, and he woke him up, and he said, it's bad. I need you to
get your gear on and come find me. And then he went back out. And for 13 hours, those two officers, along with some Hunt volunteer fire department
firefighters and an emergency room doctor provided care to that Hunt community.
When it was safe to do so they waded into the water and they rescued people. They got people down off the roots. They collected them there at
the Hunt School, there was a young boy with a pretty severe leg injury that was given first aid treatment throughout the day, other people came, many
of them were injured.
They provided first aid. They coordinated helicopter evacuations for the most critically injured. Communicated the situation back to our Emergency
Dispatch Center, Kerrville Police Department. When the waters began to recede, they knew that vehicles would be making their way out there when it
was safe to do so, so they went back and forth, clearing out debris to clear path for those vehicles.
They saw helicopters flying back and forth, making recoveries upriver, evacuating those summer camps. And they were by themselves on that island
that was Hunt, Texas, doing what they do, serving, protecting and helping until about five o'clock in the afternoon, when other emergency workers and
high-profile vehicles were able to get out there.
And here in town, the early morning hours are still dark. Our officers realized that areas of town that traditionally don't flood were going to
flood, and that low lying areas close to the river were in danger. Our officers spent hours going back and forth.
In that first hour, they evacuated over 100 homes, and evacuated and rescued over 200 people, and to say that doesn't even come close to
explaining the actions that took place. Door-to-door, waking people up, convincing them that, yes, the flood waters are coming and you need to
leave now.
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They rescued people out of vehicles. They rescued people out of homes that were already flooding, pulling them out of windows. They entered water.
There's a trailer park that flooded in minutes. One officer was there by himself, and he realized, I need help.
He sounded a siren driving up and down those streets that were beginning to flood, calling on his PA system for folks to wake up and evacuate. And then
two other officers joined him through first thigh deep, then waist deep, then chest deep water, as they went from RVs and trailers and rescued
people, carrying them safety through the water.
Out on old FM 689, there were two people trapped in the water, clinging to a tree. Two officers were there when the third one drove up, and one of
them was wrapping 100-foot flex line garden hose around his waist to go into the water and rescue those people.
And those three officers went into the water, and one of them held that hose and acted as an anchor while those other two made their way to those
two victims, and they were able to evacuate them safely. Folks, I don't know how many lives our KPD team saved in an hour in Kerrville, but I know
that this tragedy, as horrific as it is, could have been so much worse.
And finally, I want to tell you about a member of our KPD team. These guys have been working around the clock. Fourth of July, traditionally, is an
all-hands on deck event for us, because we hold an amazing concert on the river.
On July 4th, it was an all-hands-on deck event for a very different reason, but our officers had been working without time off, without any downtime
16, 18, 20-hour shifts without complaint. Yesterday was the first day we were able to give a couple of them some downtime.
So, we sent an officer home to rest. But rather than taking a day off, a much, well deserved day off, he got up and he put on his gear, and he
volunteered to go out on foot with a ground search party, and he spent his day up and down the Guadalupe River, going over, under around trees,
searching for victims, to try and reunite the missing with their families.
I think that is Texans helping Texans in the greatest sense of the word, that's what community is, and that's what's important right now. I want to
continue to thank you all for helping us spread the messages that need to be spread. Before I open this up for a very few questions just ask you to
please, I'm sorry.
Just ask you to please say your name and who you're with before we do that. Oh, I'm sorry. The mayor is supposed to speak now I apologize. Mr. Mayor,
I'm sorry.
MAYOR JOE HERRING JR., KERRVILLE, TEXAS: Good morning, everyone. As Jonathan Lamb has said, this is a story of tragedy, but it's also a story
of heroes. Thank you for all you've done. Every first responder, thank you for all you have done.
The recent numbers reported break my heart, and they break the heart of everyone up here, everyone who's been working since July 4th. I want you to
know. I think it's important for the public to know. I think it's important for the families to know, in that emergency operations center, there's not
little silos of departments and agencies. They're working as one team with one goal to find the missing and bring them home.
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I'm grateful for every first responder, every helper in every field, those who are feeding the hungry, those who are providing shelter to people who
have no home, those who are providing clothing who no longer have a work with.
I'm also grateful for the generosity of the world. Two companies that are hometown companies, companies that started in Kerrville, Texas, announced
today and yesterday that they will be donating to the relief effort. Everyone in Kerrville is proud of HEB and James Avery Artisan Class --
Artisan Jewelry had a different name for so long. I'm sorry.
Those two companies started here. Their heart is here. We are committed to helping others. After you all go home or go to the next story, we will
still be here. We live here. We've lost friends here. If you feel able to donate to the relief fund, the best source we are recommending is the
Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country. That's the community their website is communityfoundation.net. There's a link at the top of that page
to help you donate.
Now listen, I'm married to a retired first grade teacher, and I learned a little bit about classroom management from her. If you yell questions at
us, we're probably going to pick someone else to answer OK. So, you feel the need to yell your questions, I will feel the need to not answer your
question.
In first grade, they raise their hands. That might be a good start. Yesterday was a disaster, and I was embarrassed. Our town was embarrassed.
Your viewers were embarrassed. And I don't want that to happen again. I'm going to do something I've been told to do.
I'm going to turn it back to Jonathan Lamb to start the question, answer period. However, please make my retired first grade teacher wife proud and
raise your hands. Thank you.
LAMB: OK. Well, once again, just say your name, please, and who you're with, and I had already called on you. So yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you, sir. (Inaudible) San Antonio. Question for the Sheriff. The Code Red Alert System has come under a lot of scrutiny in
recent days, and now there's reports of a timeline on Friday morning where an Ingraham volunteer fire department commander asked a Kerr County Sheriff
dispatcher for the code red to be issued.
The dispatcher says, I can't. I have to get a supervisor's approval for that. Almost six hours passes until 10 o'clock, when 10:04 when the code
red is issued. How do your account for that lapse of time? What happened and what could have happened in that time?
LEITHA: OK. As I've said earlier, with every significant event, you know we're going -- with every emergency, you know what we're going to have to
there's going to be an after action, please. Y'all listen those words, after action, OK? Those questions are going to be answered.
I believe those questions need to be answered, to the family of the missed loved ones, to the public, you know, to the people that put me in this
office, those need to and I want that answer. And we're going to get that answer, and I know that's going to be asked over and over, please
understand that.
You know, we don't have we're not running, we're not going to hide from anything that's going to be checked into at a later time. I wish I could
tell you that time. I don't know that time. Let me share something with y'all.
One of the main things I've been doing is going to visit the family. We still have some of those missed loved ones here. I'll go visit them twice a
day. You know, as a sheriff, you know, what I want is, I want closure for those people OK.
And those are important questions. Those are -- we will answer those questions. I wish y'all would bear with me in that, OK, bear with me. We'll
get them. I can't tell you when a week or two, OK, we're going to get them. I'm not trying to deflect them. OK.
My primary to me, I asked you -- I've been in this business 36 years. I don't know if any, any y'all, how many of y'all have gave notifications,
death notifications, I've done them. What is worse, a death notification or telling somebody I don't know where your loved one was? That's my priority.
OK, now please understand that.
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LAMB: Tammy (ph) from the Hill Country Community Journal.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Talked a lot about the recovery effort, and it's amazing, but I wonder what we can tell with this place families. Where do
they go? How do they get in touch with FEMA? I think there's a lot of that we haven't had a chance to discuss?
LAMB: Right. So, unfortunately, I don't have the FEMA number. I know there is a FEMA hotline specifically for this, and I don't have it at my
fingertips, and I apologize for that. We are pushing out the recovery information. There's through our social media post.
The First United Methodist Church, 321 Thompson Drive is still the shelter operation for displaced persons through this disaster. They are fully
equipped and still accepting folks.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible).
LAMB: Yes, sir Lewis Amistor (ph), from the Kerr County.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sergeant Lamb yesterday, the Governor's Office said there's 161 missing. Is that a Kerr County number, or is that a roll up
number? Where are we at with the number of missing?
LAMB: It's my understanding that that the number -- the number that the governor referred to, was a Kerr County number. And again, I have no reason
to doubt that number, and it was compiled from the best available information. But we are asking folks to make sure that the numbers that we
have are accurate.
So, if somebody has been reported missing and they have now been accounted for, please let us know that so we can revise those numbers and make sure
that they continue to be accurate. Yes, ma'am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you -- (Inaudible) NBC. Yesterday, Governor Abbott said that two days prior to the disaster, he had provided resources,
and they were here on ground. This is a question for here, for the mayor. But he said, you guys were prepared, that you had those essentials. What
happened? Did you guys have those resources?
LAMB: Yeah, listen, I'm going to just say what has already been said at the appropriate time. All of that is going to be reviewed and checked into. I
don't have the answer to that question right now. I don't have that information, and rather than speculate, it would be irresponsible for me to
do that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Could you speak on that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Repeat the question, please?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yesterday, Governor Greg Abbott said two days prior to the disaster, he had provided the town with more than enough resources to
respond to the disaster. Were those resources here local -- they didn't see any resources. They didn't see anyone until hours after the disaster.
HERRING: Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What resources did you guys have? Why would -- why wasn't there any response?
HERRING: OK. I didn't see the Governor's remarks. I haven't seen the Governor's remarks. Last night, we had a city council meeting, and my I was
required to be there. And so, I can't I'm sorry. I don't know what resources TDM had in place at that time.
I know, when I arrived at the Emergency Operations Center on the morning of July 4th, there were TDM personnel there, but what assets they were able to
use that morning? I'm sorry, I do not know.
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HERRING: Listen, people are yelling, and I didn't really --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you offer only three questions, then you're going to have --
HERRING: Guess what? You're in Kerrville, and we're going to do it my way.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I understand that.
HERRING: Morgan Chesky, please.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Mayor, records show that the concept of flood warnings have been discussed at least two dozen times by the county. What's
the biggest reason that these systems have not gone into place at this point?
HERRING: You know, Morgan, you and I grew up here. And I wasn't in office during those discussions. And frankly, I'm more focused on the future than
the past. As you know, what I can say is the Governor, the Lieutenant Governor, the Speaker of the Texas House, have all provided us support.
And they have all said this is a priority for the upcoming special legislative session. As Mayor of Kerrville, as someone who grew up here, I
am grateful for their support, and I look forward to what they proposed in the special session. My last question will be.
SHIMON PROKUPECZ, CNN SENIOR CRIME AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Thank you, sir. Shimon Prokupecz from CNN. The Lieutenant Governor, said that on July
3rd, that the county judges and city mayors were invited on a daily call Thursday to discuss weather forecasts. Were you on that call? Were you
invited to that call? Do you know if the county judge was also on that?
HERRING: I can't speak for the county judge. That would be hearsay. And I'm not going to contradict the information you have, but I will tell you
personally, I did not receive a telephone.
PROKUPECZ: You weren't invited to the call.
HERRING: I did not receive a telephone.
PROKUPECZ: And you were never given any information about what assets were brought into the area.
HERRING: So, I wasn't invited to call. I'm not trying to deflect, but --
PROKUPECZ: But do you know why --
HERRING: Maybe I'm not a local mayor. I can't tell. Thank you, guys.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sheriff.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please, please, please --
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LAMB: All right, folks. I appreciate that, and I appreciate the decorum that was shown this morning. So, as you all are aware, gentlemen, I'm not
quite finished.
GOLODRYGA: All right. You have been listening to press conference there from the Kerrville City Officials, as they've been bringing updates on the
death toll, the number that are still missing. In Kerr County alone the death toll stands at 95, 59 adults have been identified. 36 children have
been identified. 13 children still remain unidentified, as well as 13 adults.
Thus far, officially, the death toll from these floods in the entire region is at 119. But sadly, we know that number will be rising. The Governor has
been warning of that, as have officials. Let's bring back Former FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell.
And Deanne we heard from multiple officials there lay out a timeline, at times seemingly defensive in the chain of events that began to unfold as
the waters began to rise. As you see that timeline right there on our screen, the National Weather Service first issued a flood watch at 01:18
p.m.
This goes back to July 3rd, and then we're into July 4th, where you sadly, at 05:00 a.m. see the river banks bursting, the first warning for life
threatening flash flooding coming at 01:14 a.m. Again, all things considered, the worst-case scenario is a mass flooding like this happening
in the middle of the night. But what stood out to you in terms of what we heard from officials now and the questions that are still outstanding.
DEANNE CRISWELL, FORMER ADMINISTRATOR, FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY: I think the biggest thing for all of us to remember is the trauma that this
community is facing in its entirety, right? This is a small community, the mayor, the sheriff, the first responders, right?
They are dealing with so much and trying to account for everybody, and at the same time manage all of the pressure from the questions that are coming
out. I know that there's a lot of questions, but I do think that their focus needs to stay on trying to account for everybody, while at the same
time having the state perhaps come in and begin to start gathering the data and the questions so they can do a comprehensive after-action review. So,
we can improve and look to the future, so something this tragic doesn't have to happen again.
ASHER: Deanne, talk to us about this -- these new figures that we got. Because now we know that 161 people are still missing in Kerr County alone,
that is a huge number of people, a huge number of people, families waiting for answers. And you have to imagine, for those families every single time,
every single time the phone rings.
You know, it's a combination of intense fear, because you don't know what you're going to get on the other end of that line, in terms of news. But
it's also deep, deep, overwhelming hope as well. And you're going through these emotions for six days straight, that is a really long time not to
have any answers.
And on top of that, there's just feeling of powerlessness, because there is literally nothing you can do, nothing you can do, to sort of alleviate your
own suffering. I mean, give us a sense of the kind of emotional I mean -- I just can't even imagine what these families are going through. The kind of
emotional support that they are getting, or that they should be getting at a time like this.
CRISWELL: I've been to way too many of these types of disasters, where I've talked to these family members who are waiting. I mean, I think back to the
first thing that I responded to when I became the FEMA Administrator was the condo collapse in Miami, all of those families that just waiting to
hear you know about their loved one that was in that building.
Or Maui with the wildfire, and going to the shelter and hearing their stories of survival. You know, they're going through a range of emotions
right now, from I can't believe I'm saved, or my family or my neighbors are still waiting. I think when it comes to the number, you got to remember
that that number is starts with everybody that called in to say, hey, I can't find my loved one.
And what you heard the local officials say is, if you have found somebody, if you called us, that you found them, let us know, because what we find is
that people call initially, and that we have these really big numbers, but they never call back to say, I found. And so, it takes time vet that list
to see if they are still actually missing or not.
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And they can use like we brought in the FBI to support that effort in Maui. Local investigators, marshals or whatever, can also help with that. But it
takes time to make sure that everybody that was originally called in is missing has either been found or is still truly unaccounted for, and that's
what they're working through right now.
GOLODRYGA: Deanne, "The New York Times" is reporting that, per an internal report at FEMA, 70 search and rescue workers have been sent to Kerr County
and dispatched to Austin, as well as a dozen others who could help manage the responses another unit of about 40 personnel were on stand-by.
That staffing seems to be dwarfed by the state in local response, where we've seen 1700 personnel deployed more than 975 vehicles since Monday.
Just hearing those numbers is that what a typical FEMA response would look like to a crisis like this, because the numbers seem rather small.
CRISWELL: It's certainly not the numbers that I would have expected during my time as administrator. You know when something like this happened on
Friday, we would have been sending resources, whether that search and rescue teams through our federal urban search and rescue program, or other
federal agencies.
The Coast Guard was already there, but like fish and wildlife and other department of defense resources, they all have specialized capability. We
would have been moving them in even before the state asked to have them in place, and then if the state needed them, they would be able to quickly
respond.
And if they don't need them, that's great, we just send them back, but it's always better to have those resources in place and ready so you don't lose
time. But what we're seeing here is delays in the way that FEMA has to go through additional approvals now to be able to move these kinds of
resources out.
And it's just time that you can't get back, and they need to have these trained people on the ground to get through this complicated debris that
you heard about. You know, these teams have done this far too many times, but they know, they know how to go in and find the individuals.
And I think now that FEMA is sending the federal teams along with what we call an incident support team to help coordinate all of that search effort,
they're going to be able to make greater progress, is my hope.
GOLODRYGA: And this coming, of course, as the administration is hoping to phase FEMA out entirely by the end of the year. Deanne Criswell, thank you
so much.
ASHER: Thank you, Deanne. All right, if you have been moved by what you've seen and heard today, and you're interested in helping those affected in
Texas by these flash floods, go to cnn.com/impact, it's pretty much a one stop shop where you can donate to various charities who are helping on the
ground. And it's both local charities and also national charities as well who are helping on the ground there. All right, we'll be right back with
more.
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ASHER: All right, welcome back to "One World". I'm Zane Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: Just hours after Donald Trump shifted his tone once again and lashed out at Vladimir Putin, Russia may have sent a message of its own.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, deadly wanted that overnight, Moscow launched its largest drone attack on Ukraine since its full-scale invasion more than three years
ago. The bombardment was so intense that it caused Poland, remember, a NATO ally, to scramble its jets and protect its airspace. Now this comes as
President Trump, who has been eagerly pushing for a ceasefire leveled his harshest words yet at rut the Russian President.
ASHER: And on Monday, Trump announced that the U.S. will resume weapon shipments to Ukraine, and that the pen -- that the Pentagon actually paused
last week. Sources tell CNN, the Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth, authorized the pause without informing the White House beforehand.
Max Boot is a Senior Fellow at the Council of Foreign Relations, as well as a Columnist for "The Washington Post" and the Author of "Reagan: His life
and legend". He joins us live now from here in New York. Max, thank you so much for being with us.
So, I mean, it's just interesting what Donald Trump had to say about Putin overnight, saying, listen, Putin is very nice to us over the phone, but all
of that turns out to be meaningless. And I'm sure Zelenskyy is sitting there thinking, listen, I tried to warn you. I tried to tell you.
When you think about all the different strategies that the U.S. has tried here, or that Trump has tried here, I mean, they've tried sort of the good
cop, bad cop, this sort of carrot and the stick approach, with Vladimir Putin trying to appeal to him on the one hand, but also, you know, having
harsh criticism them.
On the other hand, the U.S. is, of course, tried sanctions, none of that appears to be working. And what gives how does this war actually
eventually, at some point, come to an end?
MAX BOOT, SENIOR FELLOW, COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS: Well, there's only one way that this war end in the foreseeable future, which is for Vladimir
Putin to realize that he is not going to achieve his objectives at gunpoint. And his objective, of course, is to turn Ukraine into a de-facto
Russian colony, to destroy Ukrainian independence.
So far, he has not been able to achieve that on the battlefield, not even close. But he continues to press on because he thinks that he can overwhelm
Ukraine with sheer numbers. And he does have a numerical advantage. And he does have an advantage because it's clear that Ukraine has been running low
on air defense ammunition, which is why you see these massive Russian air raids targeting civilians.
And so, you know, so far, Donald Trump has obviously not succeeded in ending the war in 24 hours, and the only way he's going to be able to wind
down the war is to ratchet up the pressure on Putin. And it's nice to see President Trump, you know, the scales finally falling from his eyes and
realizing that Putin is not a good guy, that he is stringing Trump along.
So that's positive progress, but we need to see something more than mere words. We need to see more than President Trump denouncing Putin. We need
to see him doing something about. And of course, he did something small, which is to allow the latest arms shipments, which were already in progress
to go through.
But I think it's imperative that the U.S. provide more weapons to Ukraine, and also to provide the money the frozen Russian funds which are being held
in the West. The U.S., I'm told, has $50 billion in Russian funds. Provide that to Ukraine. That will send a very resounding message to Putin that
he'd better negotiate, or else he's going to lose.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, the president sat there really just throwing his Defense Secretary under the bus. And that's a whole separate question as to how the
Defense Secretary, even per CNN's reporting, according to a number of sources, was the one who ultimately decided to withhold this military aid,
despite the president seemingly not signing off on that.
But the president saying we're getting a lot of BS thrown at us by Vladimir Putin, and even went on to say that he would consider those that sanctions
bill, the bipartisan sanctions bill against Russia that's sitting in the Senate right now.
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Let's say he moved forward and endorses that sanctions bill against Vladimir Putin. What do you think the consequences of that would be?
BOOT: Well, you know, I think that would send a message to Putin that the U.S. is serious about turning up the pressure. Now, I mean, I have some
doubts of my own about that sanctions bill, because it would impose 500 percent sanctions on anybody who was buying Russian oil or gas, and that
includes countries like China, India, Turkey and others with which we have separate relationships.
So, I don't know if we necessarily are going to end all trade relationships with India and Turkey, for example, unless they stop buying Russian oil.
But I think we need to do something, whether it's that bill or whether it's sending more weapons to Ukraine or it's seizing the frozen Russian funds in
the West.
We need to do something to send a message to Putin that he is not going to get away with this aggression, because so far, he's been getting away with
it, and previously, all that Trump has been saying is, you know, this is proving tougher than I realized. I may not be able to make peace, basically
signaling that he may want to step back from it.
But if Trump steps back, that's a victory for Putin, because that means there will be no pressure on Putin to stop his offensive. I think it's
imperative that the U.S. work with our European allies to ratchet that pressure back up and to send a signal to Putin that he needs to negotiate
in earnest, which he has not done to date.
ASHER: All right, Max Boot, Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
GOLODRYGA: Thanks, Max. And still to come, we are just a few minutes away from a meeting with African Leaders at the White House. We'll tell you
who's invited and why, after the break.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, Gaza is front and center as the Israeli Prime Minister gears up to do the rounds on Capitol Hill again today. Ahead of that,
Benjamin Netanyahu is at the Pentagon, where he's meeting with U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
ASHER: Yeah, on Tuesday night in Washington, the Israeli Leader had a second meeting with President Trump. It is many days, and the big question
remains, could a Gaza ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas be closed?
GOLODRYGA: U.S. President's Middle East Envoy Steve Witkoff, says that he's hopeful for a deal by the end of this week. Israeli and Hamas negotiators
have been holding indirect talks in Qatar on a 60-day ceasefire hostage release plan. We'll have more after this break.
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ASHER: Very inclusive.
GOLODRYGA: A special moment.
ASHER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: All right, before we go this hour, one of Apple's very first computers is up for auction, and yes, it is still working.
ASHER: Crazy, that is incredible. Sotheby's has the Apple One listed as part of its Geek Week, history of science and tech. Look at that.
GOLODRYGA: I don't even remember those computers.
ASHER: Yes, you do. Actually, I do too.
GOLODRYGA: They are older --
ASHER: Not that much older, but I keep reminding you, in some ways. It's technology sale as well. The nearly 50-year-old computer is expected to
sell for up to $600,000.
GOLODRYGA: Apple logo too --
ASHER: Yes.
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GOLODRYGA: A very conservative estimate, according to Sotheby's, it's 1 of only 50 original computers built by Apple Founders, Steve Jobs and Steve
Wozniak, which originally sold for $666.66 to be precise.
ASHER: I used my first computer fish. I think it was in I'm trying to remember 1999 that was the first time I actually physically used a computer
in my bedroom.
GOLODRYGA: Bedroom, I remember we would go to our school library --
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ASHER: Oh.
GOLODRYGA: -- computers at the time. All right, stay with us.
ASHER: You -- remember --
GOLODRYGA: Walk down memory lane not that much older. We'll have one more "One World" after the break.
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