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CNN Obtains Never Before Published Trump-Epstein Photos; Growing Calls To Release More Files From Investigation; Millions Under Heat Alerts Across The U.S.; Israel: In Gaza, There Is No Famine Caused By Israel; Afghans Suffer In Wake Of U.S. Aid Cuts; Doctors Warn About The Link Between Alcohol And Cancer; Ozzy Osbourne, Rock's "Prince Of Darkness" Dies At 76; Aired 12-1p ET
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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The White House wants the Epstein story to go away, but members of Donald Trump's own party are making sure that it stays
in the headlines. The second hour "One World" starts right now.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody.
I call it the Epstein hoax.
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GOLODRYGA: They say a picture is worth a thousand words. What Trump has to say about these never-before-seen images of him and Jeffrey Epstein?
Also ahead, the Trump administration claims no one has died due to U.S. aid cuts. Our reporting suggests otherwise. And later.
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GOLODRYGA: Saying goodbye to rock's Prince of Darkness. We look back at Ozzy Osbourne's thoughts on marriage and the one thing he did every day to
stay in shape.
Hello, everyone. Live from New York, I'm Bianna Golodryga. Zain is off today. You are watching the second hour of "One World."
We'll begin the hour with the latest developments around the so-called Epstein files and the calls for more information about who may have
committed crimes alongside the convicted sex offender.
Now, a lot of attention is being paid right now to Ghislaine Maxwell who is in prison for her role in the Epstein case. Her lawyer now says she will
oppose any effort to unseal grand jury testimony concerning her and Epstein.
The judge who has been asked to release the Epstein grand jury information has given the Department of Justice a Tuesday deadline to make its case
about why he should take such an extraordinary step.
Meanwhile, Congress wants to talk to Ghislaine Maxwell. James Comer, the chair of the powerful House Oversight Committee says that he will subpoena
Maxwell to testify in the next couple of days. Congress is beginning a month-long summer recess today, but Republicans say the break will not
cause the Epstein case to fade from the headlines.
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REP. RALPH NORMAN (R-SC): It's not going to die down. I know. If you assume that the public decides that anyway. I don't assume anything particularly
this. He had. This transcends politics.
REP. KEITH SELF (R-TX): With 79 percent of the American public some sort of transparency.
REP. ERIC BURLISON (R-MO): It's the number one phone call that we get by far. It's probably 500 to one.
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GOLODRYGA: You've got to be kidding me. That was President Trump's response when CNN asked him about these newly uncovered photos and video offering a
look at his past ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
This photo from 1993 shows Epstein at Trump's wedding to Marla Maples. Epstein's attendance at the wedding was not widely known until now.
And CNN's K-File also found video showing Trump and Epstein at a 1999 Victoria Secret Fashion Show. All of these were taken long before Epstein
was ever accused of sexual abuse, we should note.
Trump has repeatedly tried to distance himself from Epstein, but Epstein's brother tells CNN that the two men were very close.
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MARK EPSTEIN, JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S BROTHER: He's trying to cover his butt. I mean, look, I understand people trying to distance themselves from Jeffrey
because of what he was charged with and the circumstances he found themselves. I understand that. You know, but I know that they were good
friends and I witnessed it myself.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN senior White House reporter Kevin Liptak joins us from Washington.
And, Kevin, how is the president? How's the administration responding to a story that just won't go away and pressure building not from just
Democrats, but also members of his own party?
KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yes. And it seems as if the strategy has shifted somewhat over time. You know, when this first started
bubbling up, President Trump really tried to avoid any kind of talk about it. He's sort of tamps down on why people might be interested.
Now, it has shifted to this kind of flurry of frantic efforts to try and provide more information or take steps that might shed light on this case
in a way that might satiate some of the basis concerns about the lack of transparency.
So, first you saw the White House and the Justice Department say that they would try and release some of these grand jury transcripts, but it turns
out that that is perhaps not as easy as President Trump thought.
It's not the administration who decides to do that. It's these judges and they -- they have raised some potential privacy concerns about what's
contained in there. You know, these transcripts will be sort of interspersed with all kinds of information about the potential victims in
this case.
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So that doesn't seem as easy or as neat as the president once thought. He's also sued the "Wall Street Journal" for a billion dollars to try and tamp
down on that story that they wrote about this letter that he's alleged to have written Epstein in the 1990s. But that too could prove more difficult
than the president had hoped.
If the case goes to court, there's all types of discovery efforts that could potentially reveal more information that the president doesn't want
out there about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
And then you see this effort by the Justice Department to go down and interview Ghislaine Maxwell, the Epstein associate who's serving 20 years
in prison in Tallahassee for her role in this conspiracy to sexually abuse minors.
And that has itself caused a degree of suspicion, but also just revulsion that Maxwell, who is someone, who is so closely associated with this, would
be sort of relied upon as a reliable narrator in any of this case.
And so you see how the White House is trying, and so far not necessarily finding a way out of this controversy.
You know, these photos that CNN uncovered yesterday are so interesting because they do shed more light on what has become a central question on
all of this, which is what exactly Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein actually was.
You know, a lot of celebrities in the 90s had a relationship with Epstein. Donald Trump was one of them. But one of the questions that I think is sort
of roiling underneath all of this controversy is just how much Donald Trump is mentioned in these so-called Epstein files.
Now, I will note that we got a statement from the White House about these photos from Steven Cheung, the White House communications director, who
said that they were nothing more than out of context frame grabs of innocuous videos and pictures of widely attended events to disgustingly
infer something nefarious.
He goes on to say the fact is that the president kicked him out of his club for being a creep. This is nothing more than a continuation of the fake
news stories concocted by Democrats and to the liberal media.
So again, trying to blame Democrats for this, even though this is a conspiracy that was cooked up in the large part by Republicans and
conservatives, including some who are now currently serving in the president's own administration.
And so, you know, you saw those clips of the Republican lawmakers who are now headed back home to their own districts as this controversy continues
brewing. It will be something to watch over the August recess about just how much pushback they get from their own constituents about this matter.
You know, there are components of the Republican base for whom this is the number one issue.
And I think it's interesting, you know, there are a whole subset of Republicans who are going to stick with Trump no matter what. They've been
with him since 2015. They will sort of ride this out in a way that the president has come to expect.
But, you know, his support in last year's election was not made up just of those people. There were a lot of people who voted for the first time for
who this issue is quite a big one. And they're not necessarily going to stick with the president just because he's the president.
And so that sort of political dynamic, I think, will be very interesting to watch over these coming weeks.
GOLODRYGA: No doubt. Kevin Liptak reporting from the White House for us. Thank you so much.
Let's bring in CNN's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst John Miller with more.
John, I'm sure you didn't expect to be talking about this subject matter. And yet, here we are weeks later. And this is something that the president
who has always been viewed as sort of Teflon when it comes to crises and controversy can't seem to kick yet at this point. We'll see after this
August recess.
But first question to you, how unusual is it for the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche to be traveling now to meet with Ghislaine Maxwell
herself serving time, convicted, obviously. Only the two people convicted in these crimes and in this matter. And that obviously was Jeffrey Epstein
and Ghislaine herself.
JOHN MILLER, CNN CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: OK. So, Bianna, it's not unusual. It literally does not exist in history. It's so
far beyond unusual. No deputy attorney general of the United States of America, the number two person in the Justice Department has ever traveled
to a prison to personally interview a convicted felon on a closed case in his own explanation of it just to find out what she may know or might want
to share.
And no deputy attorney general in the history of the United States has done so when his immediate prior employment was to be the criminal defense
lawyer for a former president who was charged in a series of felonies. So, yes, it's a little beyond unusual.
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GOLODRYGA: And yet, Ghislaine Maxwell herself has said that she does not support this grand jury testimony being released. It's ultimately up to a
judge. How do you think the judge is going to rule here?
MILLER: Well, the judge is going to put this to a test. The trial judge yesterday who conducted the trial and is familiar with the grand jury
testimony said, I don't think that's a good idea and I don't think there's a justification yet.
And the judge who was looking at the motion said essentially, I need to see a more compelling legal argument as to why it's necessary to break through
federal rule 6(e) and expose secret grand jury testimony given with the guarantee to the witnesses that no one may ever discuss what you said in
this grand jury unless you testify about it in trial or decide to discuss it yourself.
Breaking that covenant has to be better than there's a lot of conspiracy theorists who want to hear more about a sex scandal.
GOLODRYGA: And you also have, again, growing calls, Democrats, and one could argue why all of a sudden are we hearing from them? Are they just
using this politically as something that -- that they view as a -- as a win?
But you're also hearing from Republicans, including the chair of the powerful House Oversight Committee, James Comer, saying that he would
actually like to subpoena Ghislaine Maxwell. How would that even work?
MILLER: Well, Congress has subpoena power. They would need the cooperation of the Department of Justice to reach her out of federal prison and the
cooperation of the U.S. Marshals to transport her to Congress.
It could be done from prison over a Zoom connection, I guess. But that -- that could be done.
But, Bianna, we have to kind of stand back and look at the uniquely American politic version of this particular circus. You had Republican
Trump MAGA, supporting conspiracy theorist drivers, saying, we've got to get the real story on what really happened with Jeffrey Epstein, the
Clintons, the Democrats, the pedophiles.
Then the Trump team came into power and put out the Epstein documents phase one in binders. The conspiracy theorists and bloggers looked at it and
said, there's nothing new in here. Where's the real stuff?
Then they did a file review of the entire case, gigabytes and terabytes of records in the FBI and looked at the redactions they would have to make for
victims and came around again and said, you know what, we're not releasing any files.
And since then, they've been putting out things, look over here, the Clinton -- Hillary Clinton email scandal. Look over here. Barack Obama
fixed the election. Look over here. The intelligence community came up with fake stuff on Russia.
The administration has been basically saying, look everywhere but there. And rather than release the records that they could do with their own
order, they've been going to places like courts who are likely to deny releasing grand jury material or saying, we're going to visit Ghislaine
Maxwell in prison to see what she says.
There's a real game of rope-a-dope going on here from one side who wanted all this out and suddenly decided they didn't. And the other side that
wasn't really interested which suddenly is.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. The pitfalls and consequences of those who peddled in conspiracy theories and rose to fame and benefited financially from them
from years, then actually becoming the establishment themselves.
MILLER: It sounds -- it sounds like --
GOLODRYGA: Quite a change.
MILLER: -- one of those things where they thought it was a great idea until they looked in the file and saw what was in there.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And it sounds like they're not quelling a lot of this anger and the Republican voices too, along with Democrats now continuing to want
more and more of the story.
CNN law enforcement analyst John Miller, always good to see you my friend. Thank you.
MILLER: Thanks, Bianna.
And still to come for us, millions across the U.S. are feeling the summer sizzle where the oppressive heat dome is settling in, just ahead.
Plus.
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ALICIA KOERBER, BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR: When you're young, you don't think that that's something that could potentially, you know, have a long-term
effect on you when you're older.
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GOLODRYGA: But doctors say, yes, drinking alcohol can increase your risk of cancer. What you can do to lower that risk? A bit later. Maybe stop
drinking.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Now, the heat is on across the U.S. Millions of people in two dozen states are under heat alerts today. The United States
has entered the peak of summer. And a new heat dome is sealing in all that is hot and humid.
Joining us with more is CNN meteorologist Derek Van Dam. Derek, you are beloved here. But, my friend, I wish you brought us better news.
Every time I see you, I get nervous. What's going on? It's hot out there. It's hot out there, to say the least.
DEREK VAN DAM, CNN METEOROLOGIST: It is. It is. But, you know, there -- it will get worse before it gets better. And I know that's not what you want
to hear. But there is some relief in the long-term forecast.
So at least I can provide you that, right? So, we're talking about this heat dome. She set me up perfectly for this because here it is, really
situated over the eastern half of the United States.
By the way, just kind of a side note, kind of the direction around this heat dome, an area of high pressure, the clockwise airflow. It's also
allowing for some stronger storms to form on the outer periphery, so the upper Midwest places like Minneapolis, St. Paul, and to the UP of Michigan.
But underneath that heat dome, it traps this heat, right? And this is the over two dozen states that are under these heat alerts encompassing nearly
100 million Americans. So this is quite impressive.
By the way, just issued here near Boston. So, you can kind of see where this is going. It'll move from the Midwest and the Mid-Mississippi River
Valley eastward into the Ohio River Valley, and eventually end the week on the East Coast.
Four-day forecast, indicative of just that. Look at Oklahoma City, St. Louis, and Chicago. Temperatures just shy of the 100-degree mark for the
next couple of days.
Here's D.C. and New York. And you can see that uptick in the temperature on Friday. Look at that. The nation's capital, 98 will cool off, though, by
just in time for the weekend.
But I find this absolutely fascinating. When we know that the humidity levels here are skyrocketing across the interior. So that makes the heat
index values soar above the triple-digit mark, right?
So Chicago to Omaha City for today and tomorrow. But this area here, we're looking at the dew point. And this is basically for this evening. A lot of
corn is grown in this part of the United States. We call this the corn belt of America. Why am I bringing this up?
Well, it's interesting, because did you know that corn can actually sweat, just like humans sweat? And this is important, because it makes the
surrounding areas that much more sticky, that much more muggy, and that much more uncomfortable.
So we're drawing out this sweat that helps cool our bodies, per se, but in terms of the corn, it actually increases the humidity level in and around
this corn. And that, of course, can make it feel that more oppressive.
Bianna, 4,000 gallons from one acre of corn. That's enough to fill your swimming pool in less than a week. That's how much corn sweats.
GOLODRYGA: It's the corn's fault, blame it on the corn. Dentists don't like corn to get stuck in teeth. And now a lot of Americans were blaming corn
for the humidity.
VAN DAM: Exactly.
GOLODRYGA: Who knew? I learn something new.
VAN DAM: At least it's not me.
GOLODRYGA: I learn something new every day from you, Derek Van Dam. Thank you so much.
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VAN DAM: All right. You got it.
GOLODRYGA: And later this hour.
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ISOBEL YEUNG, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: What would you say to -- I mean, there are millions of Afghans who are going to be affected by this?
REP. TIM BURCHETT (R-TN): I would say, you're -- you're going to have to make it on your own.
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GOLODRYGA: The U.S. claims no one in Afghanistan has died because of cuts in USAID. CNN went to see firsthand if that's true. We'll show you what we
uncovered when we come back.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
Now to the war in Gaza. And a warning, these images we're about to show you are graphic. At least 10 people were killed in an Israeli airstrike
northwest of Gaza City on Tuesday, according to the Al Shifa's Hospital's director.
This video from Gaza's civil defense showing people being carried out of the ambulance on stretchers after the strike. The local hospital director
tell CNN that the youngest victim was two years old.
The Israeli military says that it struck an Islamic Jihad militant in the area and says that the incident is under review.
Earlier this week, Israeli tanks rolled into the central city of Deir al- Balah for the first time in the 21-month war. Palestinians who had been sheltering there say there is nothing left.
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MOHAMMED ABU SULTAN, DISPLACED PALESTINIAN (through translator): I live here in the camp. Suddenly at night tanks came, so we're displaced. We
didn't take anything. We stayed in a school. Then we came from the school and found our tent bulldozed. This is what I found of all my tent. Only
this. This is what I found. No pots. No belongings. Nothing at all.
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Even anything to cook or make food with, there's nothing. Look, they're just bombing us. God is my suffice and the best disposal of my affairs. We
are citizens. We have nothing to do with anything.
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GOLODRYGA: Those not caught in the fighting are struggling to find enough food. More than 100 aid organizations are calling on Israel to open up the
free flow of food, water, and supplies into the enclave.
The United Nations says the level of death is, quote, without parallel. Local officials say 10 people have starved to death in just the last 24
hours alone.
You can see the level of desperation here in this video, residents of Gaza storming a truck trying to get food for their families.
The last hour, I spoke with the spokesperson for the U.S. State Department and asked her about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Tammy Bruce criticized
what she called a horrible dynamic on the ground and described it as a war zone run by a terrorist group.
She also said when it comes to a ceasefire, there is currently an opportunity. And when I asked her if the U.S. believes Israel is doing all
that it can to protect civilians in Gaza, here was her response.
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TAMMY BRUCE, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON: The word that's being missed quite often is the word Hamas. There -- yes, a ceasefire absolutely
would help the humanitarian efforts to say the least. That is what America has been committed to. It's what the president has been committed to.
But there is one group that could end this immediately. And that is Hamas by laying down their weapons and by releasing all the hostages.
Any loss of life, of course, is horrible. This is a horrible dynamic. The food that goes in in this environment of a war zone will never be enough
because the environment is abnormal and it's obscene. That's why we want the ceasefire.
That said, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation has delivered over 80 million meals at this point, which is helpful. But again, we've -- it's not about
normalizing this dynamic. We've got to have it stopped.
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GOLODRYGA: Neria Kraus is a foreign policy and Middle East correspondent for Israel's Channel 13. She joins me now live in New York. Neria, it is
good to see you.
In that conversation with Tammy Bruce, obviously I also relayed that, yes, this is, you know, Hamas could lay down its arms and release the hostages.
The onus is on Hamas as well.
But also on Israel in terms of providing and distributing that aid, which it said it would do when the GHF was set up. Maybe 80 million collections
of food and packaging has been distributed as she noted.
But that's clearly not enough. And I know that these images that we are seeing here on our screens are also being seen in Israel as well. How is
the government, how are the Israeli people responding to this?
NERIA KRAUS, JOURNALIST, CHANNEL 13: So, I can tell you that the Israeli government is insisting that they're bringing enough aid and humanitarian
aid inside Gaza. But you can tell that what's going on in Gaza right now is a very bad situation.
So, in Israel, you can hear many new voices talking about the need and more aid to get into Gaza and to help the Palestinians more because this is how
humanitarian crisis that you cannot, you know, take your eyes away from. You cannot look away from that.
So, a lot of Israelis are calling the government, but also, you know, there's a lot of criticism on Hamas because Hamas is using force in order
to just steal the food and the humanitarian aid that Israel is allowing in.
And Israel is allowing in a lot of tracks of humanitarian aid of food, of - - of different types of food, of medicine. And Hamas is taking a lot of that away and the situation is on the ground, the Hamas is using force and
weapons in order to not allow Palestinians to take the food, but also they're creating sort of a war zone inside this war zone, but also in this
area that should be safer for Palestinians to grab food from and to grab medicine from.
There is -- there is truth to the fact that the way that it is distributed now is not good enough. And you can see the results on the ground. So this
is why you can hear more criticism inside Israel. People are calling to find better solutions.
And this is exactly what's going on right now in Qatar, in Doha because there are also dozens of hostages that are stealing Hamas captivity. And
that's a situation that the Israelis cannot look away from as well. And they are worried about their brother -- brothers that are still in
captivity.
And in Qatar, in Doha, they're trying to find a solution, a ceasefire, a 60-day ceasefire. And that's also not as easy to get because we can see
that Hamas is now delaying their response.
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
KRAUS: They did give a response in the -- in the past day, but it was not good enough for the negotiators.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And I was struck by reporting from -- from my sources and that we've been reporting as well that -- that now it -- it is the Hamas'
response that they are waiting for. And Hamas is the roadblock here in the impediment for a deal, in part because I'm told these images that we are
showing, in their view, is a winning strategy for them to put more blame on Israel.
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So, what can and should Israel be doing to rectify this to, if they're not going to go through the U.N. through other humanitarian agencies to get aid
in, GHF clearly is not enough to do this on their own.
KRAUS: So, you know, it's so cruel, the understanding that Hamas is actually finding the -- the situation in Gaza, the humanitarian crisis as
helpful for them in the negotiations because they think that it might help put more pressure on Israel and then Israel would cave into more of their
conditions.
And this is, you know, this is just twisted because you -- you can't look at those images and think how it is helpful to delay the answer on the
negotiations, you know, for us, for -- for every other official in the negotiations it seems irrele -- I mean, it's so important. It makes you
want to get to these ceasefire even quicker.
But for Hamas, they're using it to put more pressure, international pressure on Israel. So, if we talk about this current situation in Qatar
and Doha, I think it's -- it's important to say, like you said, Hamas is delaying their answer now.
It's the sixth day that they could have given a clear yes or maybe a yes, but with more conditions of their own.
But last night, when the Egyptians and the Qataris went to the Hamas' room to hear their response, they realized that what they're talking about and
their upcoming response is just not good enough.
And this is why the Qataris and the Egyptians just told Hamas, let's wait with that. Please talk more and bring us a more optimistic and a more
positive answer.
And this is why today we're talking, Bianna, now, it's 12:30 here in New York, but it's 7:30 in the Middle East. This is why we're talking and we
don't have a deal yet because Hamas is delaying their answer.
And I can tell you from my sources, they've been really critical of the maps that Israel initially presented, but then Israel caved into the
American request and presented a much better deal on Hamas terms.
So, this is why I think the negotiators are pretty, what I hear from my sources, they're tired. They feel disappointed from Hamas' reaction. And
they want Hamas to answer now.
And I spoke to a senior official, U.S. official yesterday who told me, I -- we told Hamas, we delivered the message to Hamas that they need to give us
an answer now, otherwise, we will not stand next to them when they will need those guarantees that they want to end the war.
So, you see --
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
KRAUS: -- this type of relations between the negotiators and Hamas that the Qataris, the Egyptians and also the Americans, they're tired of the way
Hamas is behaving in this --
GOLODRYGA: Right.
KRAUS: -- situation and they want an answer, but they want a good answer. They want a positive answer. They want to stop the crisis in Gaza.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And yet, the longer this goes on, the situation on the ground becomes more and more dire. We see more and more images like the
ones that we are seeing now.
And as you note, also, you know, the -- the hostages and their families are running out of time as well.
Neria Kraus, thank you so much. Good to see you.
KRAUS: Thank you, Bianna. Thanks for having me.
GOLODRYGA: Well, cuts in aid to Afghanistan are taking a devastating toll after the Trump administration dismantled USAID earlier this year.
Contracts worth $1.7 billion have been canceled, of which $500 million had yet to be dispersed. Other countries such as Germany, France and the U.K.
have also reduced aid to Afghanistan under its Taliban government.
President Trump recently said that no one in Afghanistan has died because of reductions in aid. CNN's Isobel Yeung went there to investigate. And a
warning, some of these images you're about to see are disturbing.
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ISOBEL YEUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We're in the Taliban's Afghanistan, a nation now dealing with huge foreign aid cuts.
YEUNG: The clinic we're actually heading towards was, until just a few months ago, funded by the U.S. government. Now, the Trump administration
has pulled the funding, a lot of people in this area are left with not even basic healthcare facilities.
YEUNG (voice-over): The U.N. estimates an Afghan woman dies every two hours from pregnancy or childbirth. This clinic has now closed.
YEUNG: So, this is where women were giving birth?
SAMIRA SAYED RAHMAN, ADVOCACY DIRECTOR, SAVE THE CHILDREN AFGHANISTAN: Yes. You know, this is the only clinic in -- in this area, and now it's gone.
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YEUNG: Afghanistan has one of the highest maternal mortality rates in the world, right? What happens to these women now that the delivery room is
gone?
RAHMAN: It means that these communities don't have access. It means that women are going to be giving birth at home, meaning, more and more children
are going to die during childbirth.
YEUNG: We were just talking to the community leaders who were telling us that seven people have died since this clinic closed. And just a couple
days ago, a woman died in childbirth because there was nowhere for her to give birth.
YEUNG (voice-over): When we followed up, the woman's neighbors and family told us that if the clinic had been opened and she'd had the support of a
midwife, she would've survived.
Across Afghanistan, over 400 clinics are closed because of U.S. aid cuts. Millions of people were reliant on these clinics for healthcare. Now, their
only option is to travel hours, sometimes days to public hospitals like this where there's an influx of new patients.
The U.S. was funding doctors, nurses, and essential drugs here, but now that's also gone.
Salaam. How are you?
DR. ANIDULLAH SAMIM, NANGARHAR REGIONAL HOSPITAL: This has the capacity for just one baby. And we have under ours three babies here.
YEUNG: Yes, it's crowded.
SAMIM: Yes. Yes. Crowded. Yes.
YEUNG: Is this normal?
SAMIM: Normal? Not normal. When they -- they cut the aid here, our mortality rate, about three or four -- three or four percent.
YEUNG: So -- so three to four percent more --
SAMIM: Rise --
YEUNG: -- babies are dying since the U.S. cut the aid?
SAMIM: Yes, yes.
YEUNG: Wow.
YEUNG (voice-over): Malnutrition has soared here. 9.5 million people are severely food insecure. Several NGOs previously funded by the U.S. are now
turning away many people in desperate need of food.
Mohamed Omar (ph) has severe malnutrition and meningitis. The family are poor and were only recently able to bring him the long distance to this
hospital.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When did he become like this?
NAZOGUL, AFGHAN GRANDMOTHER: Early in the morning.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said it was diarrhea at first and then it got worse.
NAZOGUL: E: Yes, it started with diarrhea.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Since when has he not been able to eat?
NAZOGUL: It has been a long time since he could eat on his own.
YEUNG: Hi. I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Can I ask what your name is?
NAZOGUL: My name is Nazogul. He's my grandson.
YEUNG: How old is he?
NAZOGUL: He just turned one.
YEUNG: What is his situation? What has the doctor said?
NAZOGUL: Doctors say that a microbe has infected his brain. He's unconscious now. You can see that the child's condition is very bad.
YEUNG (voice-over): In the middle of speaking, we looked over and realized the child had stopped breathing.
Is he breathing?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sorry.
YEUNG: Is he breathing?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You need to go.
YEUNG: We need to go. Sorry. Move, move, move.
He died?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
YEUNG: Oh, my God.
YEUNG (voice-over): Mohamed's (ph) mother returns to the room in the most devastating news.
(CRYING)
YEUNG: This is just one family of so many thousands of families that are having to live through this. And it's utterly heart-wrenchingly
devastating.
YEUNG (voice-over): It's impossible to definitively blame one single factor for Mohamed's (ph) death. He was suffering from a range of serious
illnesses. But aid cuts have dealt a devastating blow here.
Canceling aid to Afghanistan has long been a goal for Congressman Tim Burchett.
BURCHETT: Five billion in cash.
YEUNG (voice-over): Claiming $5 billion U.S. taxpayer dollars have gone directly to the ruling Taliban, a designated terrorist group. But the U.S.
government's own watchdog says it's more like $11 million. The vast majority of money goes to those it's intended for.
YEUNG: Are you intentionally misleading the American public when it comes to inflating these figures so that you can get what you want?
BURCHETT: No, ma'am. I'm not. As a matter of fact, $11 million is still a whole lot of money to the average American. If it's one penny going to the
Taliban, they'll hate us for free.
YEUNG: What would you say to -- I mean, there are millions of Afghans who are going to be affected by this.
BURCHETT: I would say, you're going to have to make it on your own.
YEUNG: Hundreds of clinics across the country have now closed down. I literally watched a baby die from malnutrition.
What would you say to these families who are living through desperate circumstances devastated by the results of your actions?
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BURCHETT: I think it's horrific, but it's not due to my actions, ma'am. We don't have any more money. We're borrowing that money. And again --
YEUNG: But it is due to your actions. I mean, you have been advocating for this for the last couple of years.
BURCHETT: These are people -- these are people -- no, ma'am. No ma'am. It's not our respon -- we -- we have Americans in the same -- same position. We
have Americans that are having trouble with childbirth. We have Americans going hungry. And you want us to borrow money and send it overseas.
YEUNG (voice-over): With the U.S. turning away, the fate of Afghans is now left in the hands of their own government, the Taliban, who say they're
capable of running the country without foreign aid. They denied our requests for an interview.
But it's the country's most vulnerable, women and children who stand to lose the most, now facing an isolated future without the support of those
who once came to their aid.
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GOLODRYGA: And CNN has reached out to the U.S. State Department for comment. You can find more about this across all of our digital platforms,
including more footage from inside Afghanistan and our website -- on our website or on the CNN app.
We'll be right back with more. Our thanks to Isobel for that report.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, many people enjoy a glass of wine or a beer now and then. But a new study show that that's actually increasing the chance in risk of
cancer.
Researchers found that increased to be about 10 percent to even 30 percent. So, what can you do about it? Meg Tirrell has the details.
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KOERBER: Every time I go to like the, you know, the center -- the cancer centers, I -- I was young. Like I was like by far, you know, younger than
everybody about like 20 or 30 years.
MEG TIRRELL, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Alicia Koerber found out after her first mammogram at age 44 that she had breast cancer.
KOERBER: How? How is this even possible? Like I'm healthy, I'm young. I take care of myself. I work out. I, you know, do all the things that you
assume you're supposed to do.
TIRRELL (voice-over): Testing showed she had no elevated genetic risks for cancer. So Koerber and her doctor discussed what environmental factors
could play a role.
He mentioned one that surprised her, alcohol.
KOERBER: I feel like alcohol is socially part of everyone's life. Going out with family, going out for dinner, when you're at home. Like having a glass
of wine when you cook, working in the city, and, you know, possibly going out for drinks, out to work with friends.
When you're young, you don't think that that's something that could potentially, you know, have a long-term effect on you when you're older.
TIRRELL (voice-over): Her doctor, Sam Nardello at Tufts, says Koerber is not alone.
DR. SAM NARDELLO, BREAST CANCER ONCOLOGIST, TUFTS MEDICINE: It's so socially acceptable to have a couple cocktails on the weekend, but we don't
really attribute that to the real risk that it is.
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TIRRELL (voice-over): A surgeon general advisory in January sounded the alarm.
VIVEK MURTHY, FORMER U.S. SURGEON GENERAL: There is a causal link between alcohol and seven types of cancer, including breast cancer and colon
cancer.
But what is also clear is that the majority of Americans do not know about this link between alcohol and cancer.
TIRRELL (voice-over): And data show women have been drinking more over the past few decades. Researcher say the trend is most evident in women with
higher levels of education and could be driven by having kids later and by more marketing of alcohol to women.
Doctors worry this could be leading to more cancer diagnoses. Breast cancer rates have been rising by one percent a year.
NARDELLO: Over a quarter of a million women are diagnosed with breast cancer in the U.S. And that's too much. That's way too high, 44,000 of
them. There's a direct correlation between alcohol and them developing the breast cancer.
TIRRELL (voice-over): Better detection could also be playing a role in rising breast cancer rates. Nardello notes it's not possible to know if
alcohol is the direct cause of anyone's cancer, but he recommends cutting back.
TIRRELL: What about if, you know, you went to college in the 2000s and everybody was drinking a lot? And as a 40-year-old, you're like, uh-oh, I
should stop now. Does that help reduce your risk?
NARDELLO: It does help reduce your risk. And that's nice to hear. There needs to be more research on what that is, but I'd say it's never too late.
TIRRELL (voice-over): The latest research suggests that risks for breast cancer rise even with one drink a day, the long time recommended limit for
women in the US.
As a result of her diagnosis, Koerber says she's made some big changes.
KOERBER: I know it's difficult when you're working and you've got, you know, young kids and you, you know, you take your health and put it kind of
to the backseat.
And having, you know, this conversation and -- and hearing more about the surgeon general's warning, I think, you know, I think ultimately consuming
less alcohol, you know, just makes a whole lot of sense.
TIRRELL (voice-over): Meg Tirrell, CNN, Boston.
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GOLODRYGA: Our thanks to Meg for that report.
And coming up, when it comes to rock and roll lifestyles, few performers lived it like Ozzy Osbourne. He also had a few drinks in his lifetime, so.
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OZZY OSBOURNE, ENGLISH SINGER AND SONGWRITER: Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I love you. We love you.
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GOLODRYGA: After the break, we'll look at his colorful life and the musical legacy he leaves behind.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, tributes are pouring in for our heavy metal icon, Ozzy Osbourne. The singer passed away Tuesday at the age of 76.
He played his final concert earlier this month in his hometown of Birmingham, England. Fans there have been leaving tributes to Ozzy on Black
Sabbath Bridge, which is dedicated to his legendary band.
Stephanie Elam looks back at the life and legacy of Ozzy Osbourne.
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STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He was called the "Prince of Darkness." And for half a century, British musician Ozzy Osbourne,
rocked heavy metal fans worldwide until his death at age 76 just weeks after taking what was called his final bow.
OSBOURNE: I've been laid up for about six years, and so you've got no idea how I feel.
ELAM: The Black Sabbath front man reunited with his band mates for a show called "Back to the Beginning" in his hometown of Birmingham, England.
OSBOURNE: Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
ELAM (voice-over): Performing with bassist Geezer Butler, drummer Bill Ward, and guitarist Tony Iommi for the first time in two decades, alongside
other music legends with Metallica and Guns N' Roses.
His family issuing a statement saying during his final moments, he was with his family and surrounded by love.
Osbourne's charisma and wildness on and off the stage.
OSBOURNE: Had I known it was a real battle, I would never have bitten into it.
ELAM (voice-over): Transcended music and made him a cultural phenomenon.
GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Ozzy Osbourne.
ELAM (voice-over): Born John Ozzy Osbourne, he left school at 15 and said he found his calling after listening to The Beatles on the radio.
OSBOURNE: I can remember the first time I heard "She Loves You," that changed my life because I thought, that's what I want to do.
ELAM (voice-over): Osbourne became lead vocalist of the band that would become Black Sabbath in 1968, and pioneered a daring genre-defining new
sound.
The heavy guitar and riff based albums "Black Sabbath" and "Paranoid" captivated audiences in 1970.
As Black Sabbath's fame exploded so did Osbourne's hell raising behavior. He was fired from Black Sabbath for drug and alcohol abuse in 1979. Those
same issues broke up Osbourne's first marriage and followed him for decades.
LARRY KING, FORMER CNN ANCHOR AND HOST: Have you been tempted to go back to the drug usage?
OSBOURNE: All the time. I mean, when you're a drug addict, you don't stop being a drug addict because you stop taking them.
ELAM (voice-over): But Sharon Arden, the daughter of Black Sabbath's manager, helped get him back on his feet and encouraged him to go solo.
ELAM: Osbourne's debut single, "Crazy Train," got the singer back on the rails.
Ozzy and Sharon married in 1982, and Sharon managed his career for the rest of his life.
Their love was on full display to an entirely new audience in the 2002 MTV reality series "The Osbournes." Ozzy's dry, at times unintelligible, humor
and relatable parenting challenges endeared him to millions, and the fly- on-the-wall look at the Osbournes expletive-laden daily life --
OSBOURNE: What the (BLEEP) is that?
ELAM (voice-over): -- shot the family to fame.
After years of speculation about his health, Osbourne revealed his Parkinson's disease diagnosis in an interview with "Good Morning America"
in 2020.
But Osbourne was committed to making more music. And three years later, he won two Grammys for his album "Patient Number Nine," bringing his Grammy
total to five, three as a solo artist and two with Black Sabbath.
In all, Osbourne made over 20 albums and is among the elite group inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice.
From "Prince of Darkness" to reality TV show dad, Ozzy Osbourne was a man, a myth, and a legend.
ELAM: And at that last performance in England, Ozzy Osbourne was there, as his daughter Kelly got engaged. She posted a picture on Instagram. You can
see her dad is right there, per usual, mixing his family life with his music.
Stephanie Elam, CNN, Los Angeles.
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GOLODRYGA: It's great that he got to see his daughter get engaged. Well, two decades ago, Ozzy spoke with CNN's Larry King. And in that 2003
interview, Larry asked him the secret to his decades-long marriage to wife Sharon.
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OSBOURNE: Rock and Roll, and you rocking your roll, you don't give up at the first bend, you know. Marriage, especially in Los Angeles here, it's
like, yeah, they get married one week and divorce.
I mean, it is -- it -- I couldn't imagine myself with any other woman than my own Sharon.
KING: Even though you've had tough times at times.
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OSBOURNE: Everybody does. I mean -- I mean, when I have people say, you know, we've been married for 20 years and we never had a -- we never said a
cursed between us. I think no one's been living in different houses.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, Ozzy's relationship with drugs and alcohol was also well known. During that same interview, Larry King asked him how he -- how it
had affected his health.
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O. OSBOURNE: I try and stay away from hard liquor. I have wine, beer. But - - but -- but like for instance, I've got a show coming up in Vegas in a couple of weeks. And so I'm preparing.
I try -- one thing I do -- do every -- every single day, I exercise every day. So I do like touring.
KING: You're in good shape?
O. OSBOURNE: Yes. I do a little runs around six miles, which I've never ran six miles in my life.
SHARON OSBOURNE, OZZY OSBOURNE'S WIFE: But his liver is this big.
KING: How do you -- yes.
OSBOURNE: No.
S. OSBOURNE: I know. I'm teasing. I'm teasing I swear.
O. OSBOURNE: They probably (INAUDIBLE). They say my liver is fine.
S. OSBOURNE: I know.
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GOLODRYGA: Ozzy Osbourne leaves behind his wife Sharon, six children, he has grandchildren as well, and of course, millions of fans.
Well, that does it for this hour of "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga. Thanks so much for watching. "Amanpour" is up next.
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