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U.N. Warns "Time is Running Out" for Full-Scale Humanitarian Response; U.S. Federal Reserve Expected to Hold Interest Rates Steady; 8.8 Magnitude Quake Off Russia Triggers Tsunami Threats; 8.8 Magnitude Quake Triggers Tsunami Alerts Across Pacific; India and U.S. Launch Pioneering Radar-Mapping Satellite; Fans Gather for Ozzy Osbourne Funeral Procession. Aired 11a-12p ET
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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Tsunami warnings are being canceled after an 8.8 magnitude earthquake off Russia's Pacific Coast. "One World"
starts right now. Officials say the worst of the danger is over, but meteorologists are telling people to stay vigilant after the quake
triggered tsunami alerts from Japan and Hawaii to the U.S. West Coast.
Plus, the U.S. Fed is expected to rebuff Donald Trump's demands for a rate cut yet again, despite the president's frequent attacks on Chairman Jerome
Powell. And a first of its kind satellite that could change the way we see our planet. My guest this hour, who has worked on multiple NASA probes to
Mars, will join us to discuss today's historic launch.
Hello, everyone. Live from New York. I'm Bianna Golodryga. Zain is off today. You are watching "One World". At this hour Tsunami warnings have
been largely downgraded throughout much of the Pacific Ocean. This just hours after a massive 8.8 magnitude earthquake struck off the coast of
Russia's Far East.
Now, for some perspective, it was tied for the sixth strongest earthquake ever recorded. Russia says there are no fatalities there, though, local
officials do say several people have sought medical attention. The quake sparked tsunami warnings across a vast area from Japan all the way to
Chile.
And the past couple of hours, we've learned that a volcano has erupted near the quake's epicenter. Hawaii saw waves around five feet, or one and a half
meters tall. An airport there has resumed operations after closing earlier so the runway could be used to evacuate people. Officials in Hawaii say the
worst of it is over, and evacuation orders have been lifted. One cruise passenger described what happened when the alert went out.
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JEFFREY BOOKER, CRUISE PASSENGER STRANDED IN HAWAII: We were up visiting Volcano National Park and saw the tsunami warning go off on our phones, and
then one of the tour operators from our cruise ship, the pride of America, said, everyone back to the ship fast as you can. Ship's leaving at 3:30 and
we knew at that point we weren't going to make it, so it's pulling away now.
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GOLODRYGA: Meanwhile, the effects in Los Angeles have been relatively minor. Still, meteorologists say people should remain vigilant. One boat
captain told CNN's Stephanie Elam how he was reacting.
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CAPTAIN DAN SALAS, HARBOUR BREEZE CRUISE: Taking it extremely serious. We've called in our crew. We're going to crew up all of our boats. We have
eight vessels in service. We're evacuating, making sure we have no passengers on board, and our crew is going to be on standby.
We're going to monitor it closely. We're working with United States Coast Guard and all possible information that we could obtain. We're really
looking closely at the Hawaiian Islands. That's a good indicator for us here in Southern California
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GOLODRYGA: And Japan just canceled its tsunami warnings along its northern and eastern coasts. However, a tsunami advisory remains in effect from
Hokkaido to Okinawa. Well, with more on the earthquake and all of those tsunami warnings here CNN's Marc Stewart,
MARC STEWART, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Surgeons try to keep steady, holding on to their patient and equipment as a huge 8.8 magnitude earthquake violently
rocks the operating table at this Russian Cancer Center Wednesday. The quake struck off Russia's Far Eastern coast around 11:25 a.m., local time,
sending waves crashing into shoreline towns nearby, and rattling furniture inside homes and offices, even damaging this kindergarten.
At kindergarten number 15, there was a collapse of the building facade, but thank God, no one was injured. There were no children said this local
official. Waves also crushed the Japanese coastline. People rushed to the top of this fire station for safety standing on the roof after a tsunami
warning was issued.
The tsunami warning extended across the Pacific Ocean Coastline. In Hawaii, officials warned of potential 10-foot waves. California, Oregon, Washington
and Alaska were also hit by waves. This quake is tied for the sixth strongest ever recorded, and around 2 million people were ordered to
evacuate in Japan alone, many of the tsunami warnings were later downgraded, Marc Stewart, CNN, Beijing.
GOLODRYGA: And CNN's Marybel Gonzalez joins us now from Manhattan Beach in Southern California. Maribel, it's good to see you. What is the latest on
the tsunami impact there in California?
MARYBEL GONZALEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi Bianna, good morning. Well, here in Southern California, those tsunami advisories have been lifted. We know
that parts of Northern California still remain under tsunami warning.
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As you can see here, it's business as usual along the beach. You know people we've seen them in the early morning hours, even venturing off
surfing in these waves, but that was not the case in the overnight hours. The pier that you see behind us was closed and law enforcement agents were
advising people to stay away from areas just like this one due to the threat of those waves.
Those waves came in at around 01:00 a.m. this morning, and they reached up to 1.6 feet in certain areas, three to four feet in northern parts of
California. And we know that the effects of this huge earthquake has been felt around the globe, not just here in our part of the world, but also
like in Hawaii.
We know that there were massive evacuations there. Those evacuations have been lifted, but officials there say they're not yet going to give the all
clear, as they're continuing to monitor the situation.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, we know the waves peaked at three and a half feet in Northern California at the border there with Oregon, as you noted. And what
has been the reaction to residents that you've been speaking to?
GONZALEZ: Yeah. Well, Bianna, this is a tsunami alert of any sort here in Southern California. It's just not something that we're used to. We're used
to hearing about other weather events here, but tsunami is definitely a rare occurrence. People in the overnight hours were definitely heeding the
alerts of officials here.
And those officials were very proactive with those early alerts and letting people know about potential dangers in these areas. As I mentioned, in the
overnight hours typically, you know, these beaches have some people, some stragglers that are here, you know, hoping to enjoy the beach late at night
or in those early morning hours.
But this morning we saw was very quiet here, so it did appear that, by all accounts, the people here were heeding the warnings from officials.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, tsunami warning is not something that most Californians anticipate or are prepared for. What's next? Blizzard warning perhaps?
Marybel Gonzalez, I'm glad everyone there is safe and things have quieted down. Thank you so much. And we'll have much more on this developing story
later in our hour.
But we turn now to Gaza, where the U.N. warns that time is running out to launch a full-scale humanitarian response as a starvation crisis deepens
with each passing day. Aid groups say the fittest are struggling to survive, while the most vulnerable are left with nothing as desperate
Palestinians scramble for extremely limited food supplies.
And its often mothers and children who go without Gaza's health ministry says seven More people, including one child, have died of starvation in the
past 24 hours. On Tuesday, U.N. affiliated groups stopped short of formal declaration, but confirmed that a worst-case famine scenario is unfolding
across Gaza.
CNN's Jeremy Diamond joins me now live from Jerusalem. And Jeremy, we're now on day four of those tactical pauses where Israel is allowing aid to
come in. I spoke with an economist from Israel yesterday who had noted that prices spiked to their highest levels in the last few weeks, really
sounding the alarm there about the crisis that was brewing. He said they have come down over the past few days. What impact have we seen since
Israel has instituted these pauses.
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: You know, we are starting to see the beginnings of a pressure valve release in Gaza. But for now, I
mean, it certainly is not at a situation where this crisis has been alleviated or averted at this point.
I mean, we are seeing more trucks getting into Gaza yesterday, once again, for the second day in a row, we saw 200 trucks that were distributed in
Gaza, according to Israeli authorities. That is certainly an uptick from where we were last week before Israel implemented those tactical pauses and
created these safe corridors for these aid delivery trucks.
But it is nowhere near the 5 to 600 trucks a day that humanitarian aid officials have said are necessary in order to begin to even to -- even
begin to alleviate that humanitarian and starvation crisis that is currently unfolding in Gaza.
And so really this is going to be a question of, how long do the Israelis sustain this new effort? And whether they also continue to increase it,
because it does need to be at a place where more than 200 trucks a day are getting into the Gaza Strip.
And the United Nations is indeed warning that time is running out to be able to mount this full-scale humanitarian response. We are seeing the
disturbing figures from inside of Gaza. 39 percent of people are now going days at a time without eating according to the World Food Programme.
We've seen child malnutrition rates spiking in Gaza, and once again, over the course of the last 24 hours, another nine, sorry, seven people at least
have been -- have died as a result of malnutrition, according to the Palestinian health ministry.
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That brings us to a total of 154 people, including 89 children, who have died in Gaza as a result of starvation, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: And Jeremy, our Contributor, Barack Ravid, also reporter there at "AXIOS" is reporting that Steve Witkoff, the Envoy to the Middle East,
will be traveling to Israel. I believe it's his first time back to Israel in a number of months, and that he actually may be traveling to Gaza as
well, according to his sources, to spend some time on the ground there and with the GHF, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, to tell us more about what
you hearing and the reaction to this trip.
DIAMOND: Yeah, a source familiar with the matter has confirmed to us that Steve Witkoff is indeed expected to arrive in Israel soon. Although we
don't have the details of his entire visit yet. I think there's no question, though, that the primary focus of this will be that starvation
crisis that is still unfolding in Gaza.
Particularly on the heels of several days during which we have heard President Trump making remarks on the topic, making clear, unlike the
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has denied the existence of starvation in Gaza, President Trump has made clear that he sees the real
images of starving children in Gaza, and he is clearly focused on trying to find a way to address it.
Now, what exactly that way will be remains to be seen. We know that the United States has allocated $30 million of funding for this Gaza
Humanitarian Foundation. Those aid sites, however, have been harshly criticized by the United Nations and other humanitarian aid groups, and
they have been the site of the majority of the killings of people who have been making their way to these aid sites.
About 60 percent of the more than 1000 Palestinians who have been killed by Israeli forces, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry, while trying
to seek aid, 60 percent of those have happened on the way to these GHF sites. And so, we'll see what kind of solutions the Trump Administration
tries to bring to it.
But at a minimum, there's no question that Witkoff's visit here will make clear that the United States is concerned about the starvation crisis in
Gaza and clearly wants the Israeli government to do more.
The question, of course, beyond that is, what will the discussions be about these now completely stalled negotiations between Israel and Hamas to try
and achieve a ceasefire. As we've seen over the last 24 hours, it appears that Hamas is now hardening its position at the negotiating table, putting
a potential ceasefire agreement even further away than it already was.
The United States and Israel, of course, walked away from the table in Doha, Qatar last week, although we know that behind the scenes, discussions
have continued with the mediators Qatar and Egypt still trying to find a way to bring the parties back to the table. So much, of course, on the
line.
But for the moment, at least, it seems the focus will be on addressing the immediate challenges of the starvation crisis in Gaza, and maybe seeing if
work can be done to get the parties back to the table and see if there's a way to advance those ceasefire negotiations, once again.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, so much on the line there, especially for innocent civilians who are caught in the middle of this horrible war there,
including those civilians in Gaza as well as the hostages that remain for so many days now. Jeremy Diamond, thank you so much.
And still to come, another rate decision from the U.S. Federal Reserve due in a few hours. Chairman Jerome Powell hasn't looked like caving to
presidential pressure for a cut so far. So, what's he going to be saying today?
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GOLODRYGA: Well, in just a few hours, the U.S. Federal Reserve is expected to say it's holding interest rates steady again. An announcement guaranteed
to enrage President Trump, who's been demanding steep rate cuts for many months. But the Fed is looking at a U.S. economy in a state of serious
uncertainty.
This week, for the third time, negotiators from China and the U.S. failed to reach a trade deal. Tariffs on trade between the U.S. and China could
snap back to eye watering heights if there is no new agreement by August 12th.
Now, even before that, the Trump Administration is vowing to slap a 50 percent tariff on Brazilian goods. Brazil says that it hopes to negotiate
over that. Trump has linked the tariff threat to the prosecution of his ally Brazil's Former President Yair Bolsonaro. Well, India could also face
higher U.S. tariffs next month, the White House threatening to hike them to 25 percent if there's no trade agreement by Friday.
Here to discuss is the Chief Economist for the Navy Federal Credit Union, Heather Long. Heather it is good to see you. Where to begin? And let's pick
up on this new threat from the president as it relates to trade deal with India. It's clear that negotiations are at an impasse right now, as the
August 1st deadline is fast approaching.
The president said he won't extend this deadline. That includes a number of countries that haven't secured a deal, including India, Canada, Mexico and
South Korea. But as it relates to India, what is notable is that he also, for the first time, really threatened those secondary sanctions against
Russia via India, given that India has continued to buy oil from Russia.
What do you make of that threat? And talk about the impact of being at this impasse, specifically with a country as large as India?
HEATHER LONG, CHIEF ECONOMIST, NAVY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION: Yes, this is certainly one of the never a dull day in trade policy, as you're saying.
But I will say, from a big picture view, we've seen this playbook before from the president. He often threatens some very high tariff rate or
threatens to walk away from a deal, and ultimately, he does strike some sort of framework.
So, I wouldn't say everything's over for India. I'm sure they're working very hard to try to back channel to the White House to figure out a
breakthrough here. But you're right. The one thing that was really new is trying to ramp up pressure on Russia and on all of Russia's trading
partners to get some sort of deal.
The president is clearly very frustrated with Moscow right now. And India is one of the largest buyers of Russian oil and natural gas at the moment.
So that is a little bit of a harder one, I think, for the Indian economy to the Indian leadership to figure out, how can they find a compromise there?
GOLODRYGA: And as it relates to China, we know that deadline is actually August 12th, not this Friday. Nonetheless, it is fast approaching. And the
fact that we have failed to reach a deal between China and the United States, what risks really are facing both the United States and, I would
say, global consumers if in fact, there is no deal.
LONG: I mean, there's a huge risk. We obviously import a lot of consumer goods and staples that families buy and need. A lot of people have pointed
to computers and cell phones and a number of these critical areas for American families that are coming mainly from China.
And so, if the really high tariffs were to go back into place, that will add hundreds of dollars to family's budgets. But I'm a little more
optimistic on the U.S. China situation, the both sides came out of those talks and why they didn't reach an agreement. They both were very positive
in their comments.
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And it looks like there will be either some sort of extension of the August 12th deadline. So, I think things will fall into place with China. The
India and Brazil stories are a lot more complicated.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah. And with China, it's really hard not to see how both sides have so much at stake by not coming to a deal. So, it's worth their while
to really make that effort and get to a deal sooner rather than later.
Let me ask you about the latest read on GDP for the second quarter came in higher than analysts had expected, at 3 percent versus 2.3 percent which
had been the expectation, though, there are some signs the economy continues to slow, and some warnings by major U.S. staple companies like
Procter & Gamble about where the consumer is right now and how they're being impacted by this uncertainty surrounding tariffs?
LONG: Yes, you clearly had. The most important number that I was watching today was, how is the U.S. consumer doing? We all know that that's what
really drives this economy. And the reason we got the wonderful 3 percent growth number was largely a story of there were just no imports, almost no
imports in the second quarter.
The actual consumer consumption number was 1.4 percent now that's good, but it's not great, all right, it's up from 0.05 percent in the first quarter.
So, we are -- that's why we're seeing resilience, more resilience than a lot of us expected for the consumer.
But last year, consumption was running well above 2 percent so you can see that slow down, and that's the ongoing, kind of confusing part of the
economy right now. We're not in a recession. There's no sign of recession, but there is clearly a slowdown happening
GOLODRYGA: Right.
LONG: And you step back and look at the full picture, this is a 1 percent economy.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, and I noted the Procter & Gamble. It's really a bellwether for the U.S. economy and consumer, saying yesterday that American shoppers
are using their pantry inventory, which is delaying purchasing more right now, as they're anticipating where prices may lead next.
Which leads me to my next question, it is probably a far-gone conclusion that we are not going to see any movement from the Fed in terms of lowering
rates today, I would imagine, then that that will lead to the president taking aim at Fed Chair, Jerome Powell. We've gotten used to that as well,
our new normal. But what do you think the Fed, bigger picture, maybe in a few months from now, will be doing?
LONG: Yes, I think what everyone is watching for today, as you said, no rate cut, but does the Fed Chair Powell begin to open the door, or at least
turn the handle of the door, maybe on a September rate cut? And I think he may start to do that at least say, look, kind of what you and I have been
talking about while overall things look good.
There are still a lot of headwinds. There is still a lot of uncertainty. We saw almost no business investment in recent months, and pretty, pretty weak
hiring we've been seeing. And so, is that enough to create conditions for a September rate cut? Now you won't say for sure it will happen, but I think
you'll begin to see him talk about there could be a September cut if they started to see more weakness, particularly on the jobs front.
GOLODRYGA: Right. We have seen inflation rise. We've also seen the labor market slowing, and I believe we'll get another check on where that stands
this Friday with the jobs report for the month of July. So, we will read into that as well. Heather Long, thank you so much. Good to see you.
LONG: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: Up next on "One World", back to our top story, the tsunami warnings across the Pacific. We will tell you where they are still on the
lookout after the largest undersea earthquake in more than a decade.
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GOLODRYGA: Welcome back to "One World". I'm Bianna Golodryga in New York. Here's some headlines we're watching today. The U.S. Federal Reserve, as we
just noted, is expected to hold interest rates steady for the fifth consecutive meeting, despite President Trump's pressure on Fed Chair Jerome
Powell to slash them.
The decision isn't expected to be unanimous, though two fed governors have said they support a rate cut. U.S. President Donald Trump is offering a
more detailed explanation about why he ended his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein two decades ago. Trump says Epstein stole people that worked for
him, specifically young women who worked at his Mar-a-Lago spa. Last week, the White House said Trump kicked Epstein out of his Palm Beach Florida
Club for, quote, being a creep.
The UK says it will recognize a Palestinian State in September, unless Israel agrees to a ceasefire in Gaza. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer
said the decision was driven by the, quote, intolerable situation in Gaza, which he said is getting worse by at the day, both Israel and the U.S. have
called the move a reward to Hamas.
After hours of tense waiting, it appears a massive earthquake off the Coast of Russia has not produced any major tsunamis. Millions of people in
coastal areas of Russia, Japan and Hawaii were ordered to seek higher ground, and though some waves of about two meters were spotted, the
flooding hasn't been nearly as bad as feared.
CNN Meteorologist Chris Warren is tracking the developments and joins us now from Atlanta. And I guess that is the big question. It's a relief,
Chris, this is the sixth largest earthquake on record, so why haven't we seen tsunamis impact more countries at levels that many had feared?
CHRIS WARREN, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, the fact that it was possible Bianna, and that's absolutely right, it hasn't been as bad as it could have
been. We are fortunate for that this type of earthquake, the way it all came together, and I'll show you that in just a moment, has the potential
for causing some very destructive tsunamis, not the case in this particular situation.
Threats not completely over. Here's the Hawaiian Islands and Midway with Kahului. That's in Maui, almost six feet, so just about two meters, little
bit under two meters here. And then from Oregon and into California, also seeing some rise, about 1.2 meters there in Crescent City.
I want to highlight Crescent City for a couple of reasons. First, this gives you an idea of how it played out. This line right here, these two
hills right there. So, this is essentially high tide, low tide, high tide again. And that was the forecast. But what actually happened?
This is forecast without the tsunami, but then you add the tsunami, and here's what was measured, the ups and the downs. And these are hours. So,
this up and down motion, the sloshing around happening for hours. And you might think when a tsunami happens, it's just one push of water or one wave
of water.
That's not the case. You can have some water come in and then more water, and then another push of water that's even higher, which adds particular
danger if people are trying to go look at damage from a first wave, and then another wave comes in, or another surge of water.
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Here are the latest alerts. Now we're down to advisories, no longer any warnings. We're not completely out of the threat yet, but we are heading in
that direction. So, another piece of good news. Now we're not completely done. At the time of the earthquake, when that happened here, just off the
Coast of Russia, this was the forecast, 5 hours, 10 hours.
Now the wave initially and across the ocean the open water, it is moving about as fast as a jet liner. However, once it gets closer to shore, it
slows down, and that's when the water starts to build up and we start to get some of the waves coming in. So, we're in this zone right now with the
propagation, the movement of the waves from the earthquake getting closer to South America right now.
But again, it does take, as we saw in Crescent City, California, Northern California, it takes a while for that sloshing and for the waves to start
to calm down. Even when you don't see any waves anymore. Under the water, there can be rip current, so it can be dangerous to be in the water.
The earthquake itself was 13 miles deep, which is actually pretty shallow. And this is Bianna the most important thing how it happens is you get this
the subduction zone tectonic plates, one going under the other, and huge, massive earth gets bumped up. And so, you get this push of water near
shore, it's going to happen much faster.
But this also moves across the entire Pacific Ocean. Another interesting fact is that you could be standing on a boat in the ocean and not even feel
the tsunamis once it gets to the shores, when the real problems happen.
GOLODRYGA: Wow, fascinating. Chris Warren, thanks so much for explaining it for us. Really appreciate it. Let's bring in James Gridley. He is the
Director of Tsunami Operations at the National Tsunami Warning Center in Palmer, Alaska. Thank you so much for joining us. So, as we just heard in
that report, we're not fully in the clear now. When do you expect that will be?
JAMES GRIDLEY, DIRECTOR OF TSUNAMI OPERATIONS, NATIONAL TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER: That could take a while. As you mentioned earlier, this, this is a
very long wave. Has a very long wave train. We're seeing durations of up to 10 hours. So, we're likely to be taking our time, removing everybody from
an advisory and canceling.
As you noted, we just recently took out the Crescent City area from a warning to an advisory that's a notorious area for tsunami just it's
positioned in the right location relative to the bathymetry the ocean and the way the waves travel to just put a lot of water up on land.
GOLODRYGA: Talk to us just about the size of this earthquake, as we noted, the sixth largest on record, and some of your initial fears once you got
word of that last night.
GRIDLEY: Yeah, so at the Tsunami Warning Centers, we've been watching this area for about two weeks now. We've seen a kind of building. There's been a
lot of large quakes. I'm not sure we were all that surprised to see a tsunami genic event develop. 8.8 is rather large, as you said.
And in particular, the way the earth ruptured to create the tsunami, it was exactly the type we see that creates a tsunami. So, when we saw this go
off, and we saw our deep ocean sensors suggest that we're -- that there may be a tsunami, we kind of know that area well enough, and we know our
forecasting to know that Hawaii's right in the -- right in path, and that certain parts of North American coast are at risk.
So, we had some sense going into this then what we were up against, and the forecasting worked out exactly as we thought. And right now, we're in the
process of going through the working with the local partners and local emergency managers to assess what's happening and run our procedures to get
everybody to a cancelation.
Now, keep in mind, just because we canceled the tsunami doesn't mean that there isn't risk out there. There's going to be some interesting tides and
currents, and that some of them could be dangerous.
GOLODRYGA: All right, I know alerts are still in effect for Chile, the French, Polynesian Islands in the South Pacific as well. I think they saw
waves of over 13 feet high. We also know, as we heard from that previous report, this was considered rather a shallow earthquake. Does that impact
the scale of the wave sizes that we could expect to see in tsunamis?
GRIDLEY: Yeah, I wish. I wish it was an easy answer. It is not an easy answer. Yes, it is -- it is kind of shallow. We seem even more shallow. And
we -- you know generally speaking, we tend to think that the shallower it is, the more risk and more danger.
But that's not always the case. It depends upon how it ruptures? And how the earth responds? It's -- you know, it's like -- it's like -- it's like,
pushing down on a spring. So that response kind of depends upon a lot of factors. And so, we do a lot of analysis leading up to that, and we work
closely with the USGS to make sure we got all the right information and -- you know, we're in developing our models in our forecast.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, James, you know, it is really informative to hear that this is something that you've been anticipating, perhaps over the last few
weeks. We haven't been covering it, but that's what you do on a daily basis, and no doubt it saves lives around the world.
It's just fascinating the technology that's available now and how quickly you can spread information and warnings around the world in just seconds
when we do see earthquakes of this magnitude. So, thank you for all of your work. Really appreciate it. James Gridley, thank you for your time.
GRIDLEY: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: Well, next time there's a natural disaster, data collected by the satellite that just launched from India could help to keep people safe.
Coming up, a look at the new space mission and what it's setting to achieve.
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GOLODRYGA: All right, this just into CNN, flights are grounded at UK airports because of a major technical issue. Gatwick Airport in London says
that it is affecting all outbound flights across the UK. We will bring you more details when we get them.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 --
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GOLODRYGA: A few hours ago, India and NASA's new satellite launched into space from the Satish Dhawan Space Center in Southern India, the first of
its kind. Satellite will use two kinds of radar to track movements of the Earth's surface, even the smallest shift of land or ice, which could enable
authorities on the ground to predict and respond better to natural disasters.
The $1.3 billion satellite will scan each part of the Earth's surface twice every 12 days to provide a 3D view of our planet. For more on the earth
mapping satellite, let's bring in CNN's Tom Foreman. Tom, this is an idea first launched a little over 10 years ago. So, talk about the significance
of this launch.
TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, this joint venture was launched under the Obama Administration here, and people may recall that President Obama
said we should be using our space power to look back at Earth and solve more of our problems, especially in a time of climate change.
So, what this joint agreement between NASA and ISRO, which is the Indian Space Authority there. This joint effort is to put this satellite up there.
It's going to be flying in an orbit that mimics the sun basically. It will pass over Earth so often, taking these radar readings. It'll be twice,
every 12 days that it will be at this complete picture of the earth and Polar caps. So, you'll see all the ground and the Polar caps during that
time.
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These two different types of radar are capable of reading through heavy foliage and through clouds to get very precise measurements down to within
less than an inch of what's happening with the ground there. That would really matter on a day like today, where we had these tsunamis, we're
talking about.
Because you have a much more accurate read on the land around there, where it's being approached, as your guest said a minute ago, it'll give you some
idea that it might be coming, because you'll get more precise readings on when the land is moving around volcanoes, around potential earthquake
faults, that sort of thing.
So, this really could be a life-saving mission. And interestingly, Bianna, although the satellite itself is about the size of a pickup truck. What it
does once it unfolds this mesh antenna, which will be about 30 meters, or, excuse me, about 10 meters across.
So, once it does that, essentially what it's doing is the same thing you do when you do when you take your phone and you take a panoramic picture like
this, even though it's not that big, what it's doing is taking these readings a step at a time and knitting them all together to create these
comprehensive maps.
This is actually a very big story out there today, not only of international cooperation, but hopefully, of some really important results
coming in as the satellite gets into what will be they hope a five-year mission.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, one of the few hopeful and positive stories out there as well. So, I'm so glad we are covering it and that you are covering it for
us. Tom Foreman, always good to see you. Thank you.
FOREMAN: Thank you, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Tanya Harrison, a Fellow at the Outer Space Institute, joins us now. She's also Science Strategist for Space and Climate, and has
worked on multiple NASA missions to Mars and joins us now. Tanya, as we noted, this has been a project that has been in the works now for over 10
years. Just talk about its significance from your perspective, and the game changer that this partnership really could be.
TANYA HARRISON, FELLOW, OUTER SPACE INSTITUTE: All right, space has always been a place where we've seen a lot of international collaboration, but
this is the first big collaboration between NASA and Israel, the Indian Space Agency, on a mission like this.
So, this is really exciting to see from that perspective, but also from continuing some of the stuff the previous person just mentioned. This is a
big game changer when it comes to understanding the impacts of climate change. We can measure ground movements with these radar instruments on
board down to the order of centimeters.
And so, you can look for things like early warning signs of landslides, where the ground starts to move, maybe even days or weeks before the
landslide itself actually happens. This is particularly relevant in a place like India, where thawing glaciers are causing more frequent and more
destructive landslides in places like the Himalayas.
You can look at ground deformation from things like earthquakes. So, in the case of the tsunami earlier, we wouldn't have been able to necessarily pick
up the earthquake that caused it because it was under the ocean, but you can pick up things like change on the coastlines from the impacts of the
tsunamis as they happen.
And so, this will just really help illuminate the impacts of all of these natural disasters that we're seeing because of some of the acceleration of
things like changing weather patterns, like melting glaciers, melting ice caps. Now we can monitor those in almost real time with a satellite like
this.
GOLODRYGA: And the name of the satellite mission is NISAR. And once NISAR starts beaming down the data, how quickly will it be available to
scientists to parse through the information?
HARRISON: It takes a little bit of time to process radar data like this. It's not quite the same as just taking a picture like people are probably
used to seeing from space images. So, I'm not sure what their turnaround time is, but I imagine they're working to get it out pretty quickly.
GOLODRYGA: And I know that it's designed to give this data for free, essentially. How big of a deal is that for climate related interests?
HARRISON: This is huge. It actually continues the tradition of NASA data, which is generally public domain, so anybody can access it to work with it,
whether you're a researcher or a private company. It's there for you to use as a taxpayer and anyone in the world can use it to work with it, which is
pretty amazing.
So, it's great that Israel was on board with this type of arrangement for releasing the data as well, because it's really important for as many
people as possible to have information when it comes to understanding climate change and natural hazards.
So, we can get information out there to groups like first responders, folks that are sending out early warning alerts for things like these earthquakes
and landslides. They need that information immediately. So, anything we can do to get that data in the hands of the people who need it, and to get it
to them for free is really incredible.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, no doubt that is really beneficial. We also know that it uses two different radar bands. What's the significance of that? And what
type of information, additional information will we be able to glean from two versus just one?
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HARRISON: So, having the two different radar bands gets you that information about the deformation of the ground. So, you can use different
frequencies of these radar bands, essentially, and each one tells you a little bit of different information. So, there's a whole suite of different
wavelengths that you could be transmitting these radar waves at.
In this case, they've picked a couple called S band and L band, that's just different frequencies of light, but having them both mounted on the same
satellite gets you that really high-resolution information about how the ground is changing. And if you just have one, you can still sometimes get
that information, but it's not going to be as rapid and it's not going to be as high resolution generally as it would having a satellite this.
GOLODRYGA: What also is fascinating, and as you noted, this is continuing the trend of collaboration among countries who in other areas may be
disputing and actually not working together at all. India and the United States are allies, but you hear the president threatening additional
tariffs just this morning, and here they are working in space in this type of collaborative way.
Just talk about the significance of that. I mean, much has been said about the U.S. and Russia and the space program that continues there despite the
ongoing war in Ukraine.
HARRISON: Yeah. I mean, the tradition in space has basically been since the end of the Cold War that we see a lot of this international collaboration.
Russia and the U.S. kind of joining forces back in the end of the Apollo era, when they had the Apollo Soyuz Mission, really kicked off this sort of
idea that in space there are no borders, there are no boundaries.
We can work together to try to benefit humanity and understand our planet better. And it's nice to see that that has continued despite changes in
geopolitical situations around the world. And so, it gives me hope that this tradition will continue into the future, even if on the ground, these
nations don't always play together the best.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, or the current U.S. administration doesn't really subscribe to some of the climate change initiatives that the administration
that actually launched this mission 11 years ago did, and yet it's still going on today that that is significant as well.
Tanya, just from a personal perspective, you worked on missions of Mars, here in the U.S., I mean, here in in the U.S., but in the -- on Earth, talk
about just personally what this specific mission means to you.
HARRISON: I mean, my interest as a researcher was specifically on landslides, so to me, the fact that we'll be able to do high resolution
landslide monitoring with this mission is a huge game changer, and I'm really excited to see what this data looks like, and hopefully see that it
actually does have some real-world impact.
Like we do see people getting evacuation warnings sooner, saving more lives, actually being able to demonstrate how having this technology in
space does benefit life directly here on Earth?
GOLODRYGA: We'll be paying close attention. I know you will as well. Thank you so much for joining us and helping to explain it all.
HARRISON: Thanks Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: And an update now on a story that's unfolding in the UK, airlines say they are working to restore normal operations across the
country. It comes after a technical problem affected all outgoing flights across the UK Gatwick. Officials say that Gatwick officials say inbound
flights are still landing.
Aviation officials say the technical issues were quickly resolved, but we don't have a time yet on when normal operations will be restored. We'll
keep you posted on that. And still to come for us, they lined the streets of Birmingham, England today to pay tribute to a music legend. Funeral of
Ozzy Osbourne, when "One World" continues.
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GOLODRYGA: A strolling jazz band playing Black Sabbath hits led the way as fans turned out to say goodbye to Ozzy Osbourne today. People lined the
streets of Birmingham, England as the Heavy Metal Superstar was driven past the famous Black Sabbath Bench and Bridge on the way to a private funeral.
Ozzie's widow, Sharon Osbourne was visibly emotional as she waves the crowds. Ozzy Osborne died last week at the age of 76 he had battled
numerous illnesses, including Parkinson's disease. For more on today's events, let's bring in CNN's Lisa Respers -- Lisa Resper France. And Lisa
really somber moment their closure, not only for the Osborne family, but as we can see, for thousands of his fans.
LISA RESPERS FRANCE, CNN REPORTER: Yeah, Bianna. What's so amazing about those fans is the age range. There's so much diversity, everything from
little kids to the elderly people just wanted to come out. There thousands of people who showed up to bid him farewell, which is proof positive of how
beloved Ozzy Osbourne was and is.
I mean, as a member of Black Sabbath, as a solo star, as a reality TV star, I mean, a lot of people feel like we would not have Heavy Metal were it not
for Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath. So, what you're seeing, I think, is just an overwhelming amount of love and respect being poured out.
And it's hard to look at these scenes and not think of like a Princess Diana or other famous funerals that we've seen, because people have been
leaving so many mementos and things that -- you know they want to honor him, and seeing Sharon and his children, Jack and Kelly, and just how
visibly moved -- you know not just grieving, but visibly moved by the crowds.
And Sharon throwing up Ozzie's famous peace sign that he loved to give people. It's just it's incredible to watch. It really is Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: And you can't overstate the significance of Sharon Osborne in Ozzy's life, not only as his life partner and wife, but his manager as
well. And you mentioned the age range there among demographics of his fans, and a large part is credit to Sharon for really helping continue to revive
his career across a number of genres.
FRANCE: Oh, of course, absolutely everything that you just said, because she was his biggest fan and but she also understood the importance of
people seeing him on reality TV. Reality TV is nothing that I think Ozzy Osbourne would have thought of for himself, but Sharon knew that the world
would see him as a family man and fall in love with him, and that's exactly what happened.
We got to see beyond the prince of darkness, and what we're seeing today with his celebration of life is pure light at this moment, people, you
know, they have so many great Ozzy stories. I saw one gentleman talk to the BBC about how he got Ozzy to sign his prosthetic foot, and now he wants to
auction that off, to sell it, to make money for organization that helps those who lose their limbs.
And so, you know, just people want to do things in the name of Ozzy Osbourne, because he meant so much to so many generations, and I think
that's what we're seeing right here with this footage and everything that we've seen leading up to today.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah. I mean, I met the Osbornes when I was working as a producer for CF -- CNBC, a business network at the New York Stock Exchange.
And they were just launching, I think the second season of their show, just talked about diversifying the reaches there for their business.
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And they were so lovely, so lovely. But the idea of Ozzy Osbourne on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, that is an image most people would
not expect. And yet, he fit right in, I have to say. And he was greeted with a hero's welcome. All right, Lisa Respers France, good to see you.
Thank you.
FRANCE: Good to see you, my friend. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: And another update on our breaking news from the last few minutes, airlines in the UK are working to restore normal operations across
the country now. This after a technical problem affected all outgoing flights across the UK. Gatwick officials say inbound flights are still
landing.
Aviation officials say the technical issues were quickly resolved, but we don't have a time yet on when normal operations will be restored. We'll
have more on the story coming up in our next hour. And you stay with CNN, I'll have more "One World" after the break.
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