Return to Transcripts main page
One World with Zain Asher
Netanyahu, Israel's Security Cabinet Meet To Discuss Gaza; Putin Says He And Trump Likely To Meet Next Week; Trump Administration Has Not Cut Any Trade Deals With Africa; Mexico's Tariff Rate Stands At 25 Percent On Exports To U.S.; Flight Turbulence Becoming More Frequent And Severe; Russia Trying To Divide And Isolate City Of Kherson; Women In Gaza "Embarrassed" By Dire Personal Hygiene Situation; CDC: Ultra-Processed Foods Make Up Large Part Of U.S. Diets; Timeless Toyota Tercel Has Lodged 1.2 Million Kilometers; Aired 12-1p ET
Aired August 07, 2025 - 12:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[12:00:30]
PAULA NEWTON, CNN ANCHOR: Total control. Benjamin Netanyahu says Israeli forces intend to take control of the entire Gaza Strip. The second hour of
"One World" starts right now.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Benjamin N'T'NYAHU appears to be pushing ahead with plans to ramp up military
operations in Gaza, reportedly aiming to reconquer the entire territory.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEWTON: Critical new developments. Netanyahu reveals his plans for the future of the Gaza Strip.
Also ahead, a pivotal meeting between Putin, Trump, and Zelenskyy could be in the works. But is it too good to be true?
Plus.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ANDY CAMPBELL, HAS LOGGED MORE THAN 1.2 MILLION KILOMETERS ON CAR: I'm looking for the next million, but I don't know if I'm going to live long
enough.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEWTON: Toyota Tercel, he's driven it for over one million kilometers. And the 1985 Toyota is going strong. His secret to keeping his classic car
highway ready.
Live from New York, I'm Paula Newton and Zain and Bianna are off today. You are watching the second hour of "One World."
Now, it's a move that could further displace the two million Palestinians in Gaza who are already in the grip of a hunger crisis.
Israel's Prime Minister is meeting his security cabinet to present his plan for a major military escalation in the enclave. Benjamin Netanyahu is
expected to push for a full conquest of Gaza, even though many inside Israel warn of dire consequences.
Sources say his military chief is among those opposed, saying it would trap Israel's forces and endanger the lives of the hostages.
Israel's military already controlled 75 percent of Gaza after 22 months of war with Hamas. Here's what Netanyahu said on Fox News just a short while
ago.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BILL HEMMER, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Are you saying today that you will take control of the entire 26-mile Gaza Strip, as it was 20 years ago to this
month in 2005?
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: Well, we don't want to keep it. We want to have a security perimeter. We don't want to govern it. We don't
want to be there as a governing body. We want to hand it over to Arab forces that will govern it properly without threatening us and giving
Gazans a good life. That's not possible with Hamas.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEWTON: In the meantime, the families of hostages are demonstrating against any escalation, wanting a ceasefire deal to free their loved ones.
Some even launched a flotilla protest saying this was a mayday call to the Israeli government. Now, the war has triggered, as we've been telling you
here, a humanitarian crisis in Gaza and left most of the enclave in complete ruin.
Countries are airdropping aid but Gaza officials warn, it's expensive, inefficient, and in fact, deadly at times.
CNN's Jerusalem bureau chief is following all the latest developments for us, Oren Liebermann joins us now.
Oren, the cabinet meeting has now started, we understand. But as we were outlining, most Israelis seem opposed to it. The IDF even expressing
apprehension here. Why push ahead with this if you're the prime minister?
OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN JERUSALEM BUREAU CHIEF: Well, first is Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has put forward maximalist war goals, the destruction of
Hamas, which Israel's technologically advanced military, stronger military, has been unable to achieve in -- in 22 months, the release of the hostages,
which, as you saw in those protests, many of the hostages' families believe is simply impossible through military means and needs to be pursued through
diplomacy.
And -- and the -- the removal of Hamas as a governing body, and the replacement of Hamas with a different governing body, one, which Israel has
never quite clearly laid out.
So, Netanyahu is clearly still in pursuit of those goals, what he's called in the past, his total victory over Gaza. And this is part of that. The
expansion of Israel's campaign in Gaza, a major escalation here in the middle of what we've seen is a very clear humanitarian crisis.
It's -- it's also what the far-right parties that hold up Netanyahu's government have been calling for. So there is the -- the political benefit
of stabilizing his own government.
Netanyahu has made quite clear, and we heard it once again there in that Fox News interview from earlier today, what he intends to pursue here. And
even if there is opposition from much of the country, which has been shown in repeatedly in polling, as well as warnings from the IDF chief of staff,
this is what Netanyahu is pursuing.
[12:05:04]
And from what we can see from here, he has the votes in his security cabinet to get this through and to make this the path that Israel goes
down, despite not only what we've talked about, but also massive international criticism and opposition to this plan.
It is worth noting he has effectively got the sign off from President Donald Trump for Israel to do pretty much whatever it wants in Gaza.
NEWTON: Yes. And that is a -- a point that will be considered no doubt.
Oren Liebermann, we'll continue to keep an eye on that cabinet meeting for us. Appreciate it.
Now, there are signs that a trilateral meeting between the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, and the U.S. is in the cards. It was brought up by U.S.
envoy Steve Witkoff during Wednesday's meeting with Vladimir Putin.
At the time, he didn't get an answer, but earlier on Thursday, Putin said he has quote, nothing against the idea if certain conditions are met. His
comments came during a meeting with UAE President Mohamed Bin Zayed. Putin also confirmed he would likely meet with Donald Trump next week.
Now, Zelenskyy, meantime, says he's open to a summit, but he cautioned that Russia must try to deceive -- might try to deceive the U.S. and Ukraine.
Meantime, President Trump's Friday's ceasefire deadline is still in place. He has threatened additional secondary sanctions on countries that buy
Russian oil if Putin does not reach a peace agreement by tomorrow.
Alayna Treene has been following all of these developments for us from the White House.
You know, and I am curious to hear from you what the White House is now saying this morning after we've had all this information really coming from
the Kremlin.
It seems that the Kremlin at this point has more to say on the timing, the location, the context and the conditions.
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: That's right. And there are definitely some discrepancies, Paula. I mean, first of all, we have now
heard from several different White House officials, both, you know, in our conversations, but also saying publicly that trying to argue it was Russia
who first brought up this idea of a meeting.
Clearly, we're hearing from the Kremlin saying, actually it was the Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, who first brought that off during that three-hour
meeting in Moscow yesterday, face-to-face, when he sat down with Putin.
We also know, of course, that from our conversations, it's very much unclear when exactly this could happen. What the White House is willing to
say publicly, so far, is that they want to potentially make it happen, that the president said that he intends to go or he hopes to go.
And so the details are really still murky. Of course, a trip of this magnitude to come together in just a matter of days is a very tall task.
I mean, it's a very difficult thing for them to try to do, from a security standpoint, from a logistical standpoint. And so that's been kind of under
discussion as well.
Now, what we have heard from sources here at the White House is that once they realized and heard that the president wanted to potentially try and
make this happen, they began immediately working to see what they could do.
And we've now heard again from the Secretary of State Marco Rubio to the White House Press Secretary, Karoline Leavitt, many different people saying
they believe this could come together, if not in the next week or potentially the next two weeks.
Now, another key sticking point or difference, I should say, in what we're hearing from the U.S. side and the Russia side is how many people are going
to be actually in that meeting. I mean, it's clear the president said that he would hope that Zelenskyy could be a part of this, that it would be a
trilateral or meeting, or perhaps we're hearing, you know, they could meet the President Putin, and President Trump face to face and then brings
Zelenskyy in. That's also unclear. It seems like the Kremlin is -- is not really seeming very warm to the idea of having Zelenskyy be a key part of
this.
So, all of that is still up in the air. But regardless of any of that, I think the bottom line, of course, is how significant a meeting of this
magnitude would be.
The president -- President Trump and President Putin, of course, they talk on the phone, but they have not met directly since the president's first
term.
The last time actually the United States, any leader of the United States, met with Putin was in 2021 when former President Joe Biden met Putin in
Geneva. And, of course, it comes as there are many questions about what the White House and specifically President Donald Trump is going to do, mainly,
is he going to make good on his threats to Russia to impose sweeping sanctions and tariffs on the country if they do not make a ceasefire deal?
And that deadline is, of course, fast approaching. This should be by Friday. Unclear if that will move now with this meeting looming in the
future.
NEWTON: Yes. And that will give us a good indication of what the Trump administration's next move will be.
Alayna Treene, grateful to you.
Now, the global economy and decades of trade policy are both being upended today. Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs have arrived.
Starting today, 69 countries face new taxes on exports to the U.S., some of which are in the 30s, 40s, and even 50 percent category.
For American consumers, the imported goods they will -- they buy now will be subject to an average tax rate of 17 percent, the highest since the
Great Depression, almost 100 years ago.
Here's how one company is seeing this. Toyota, the world's largest automaker we remind you, says it expects profits to drop -- pardon me, to
drop by almost $10 billion as a result of tariffs.
[12:10:08]
These tariffs have been a long time coming, of course. Many of them were first unveiled by Trump back in April, but repeatedly delayed as the White
House tried to calm nervous investors and also sought to cut new trade deals.
And the administration is brushing aside concerns that this could raise inflation in the United
States.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SCOTT BESSENT, U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY: Overall, inflation is down. And the -- what we're seeing is the manufacturers overseas are absorbing some of
that. Retailers are absorbing some of that. And part of our plan is to have real income growth for working-class Americans.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEWTON: Now, the tariffs are going to be very painful in Africa, where the Trump administration has not cut a single trade deal yet. We want to bring
in CNN's Larry Madowo with more.
And this is such a contrast, Larry, right? In terms of what the American -- American administration has tried to do for decades, which is to try and
improve the economic viability of so many countries in Africa.
LARRY MADOWO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The Trump administration, Paula, says that it's moving away from aid to trade. And yet, it has not signed a single
trade deal here.
And in fact, Africa's largest economy, South Africa, is scrambling just to get U.S. officials on the phone to agree on what exactly will happen. They
need the American market because they're second largest market and they have not succeeded.
And right now, it appears that the South Africans have accepted that these 30 percent tariffs, the highest on the continent, will come into effect and
they are powerless to stop it. In fact, they're looking in another direction. Listen to South Africa's foreign ministry.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
RONALD LAMOLA, SOUTH AFRICAN INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS MINISTER: South Africans, we need to prepare ourselves for the reality that this is an
unpredictable market. This market being unpredictable does need us as a counter to the risk to diversify in terms of our economy, to build our own
self-sustainability, to look into other markets across the globe.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MADOWO: He mentioned the European Union and China as reliable partners and this pivot away from the United States. And it's something a lot of other
Africans will have to seriously consider because right now, as the U.S. is raising tariffs on African countries well and the rest of the world, China
is going the opposite direction.
China has announced that it intends to drop all tariffs for all African countries except Eswatini, which still recognizes Taiwan and China's
already Africa's largest market.
Africans export four times as much goods to China as they do to the United States and they come with a lot less baggage, Paula, so to speak.
NEWTON: Yes. And many have argued that, in fact, it is a complete pivot for Africa, that China will be a sphere of influence and the U.S. will no
longer be even a player there.
Larry Madowo for us. Appreciate it.
Now, as we've been saying, U.S. President Donald Trump's long-awaited global tariffs are in effect for nearly every country in the world that
exports goods to America, but talks are still ongoing with America's largest trading partner, Mexico.
The U.S. has come to rely on its neighbor for a wide range of goods from produce to clothing, electronics, and cars. For now, tariffs stand at 25
percent. That's because Trump agreed to extend the existing rate on Mexican goods for an additional 90 days. That was just last week.
That was the only country to get that reprieve. The rate goes away if any Mexican goods are compliant with the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade deal, which
we have to say at this hour does remain in effect.
Now, Trump signed that agreement during his first term in office for her part. Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has not issued any retaliatory
tariffs.
Joining us to discuss those tariff rates is Mexico's former USMCA negotiator, Ildefonso Guajardo Villarreal, and he was, in fact, the economy
secretary under former president Enrique Pena Nieto. Thank you so much for joining us.
As we try and really understand the state of affairs with -- as we've underscored, Mexico is the United States' largest trading partner.
Now, you have an opinion on this. You say the 90-day extension maybe wasn't necessarily a good thing. Why?
ILDEFONSO GUAJARDO VILLARREAL, FORMER MEXICAN ECONOMY SECRETARY: Well, the way I see it is that the rest of the world, like Japan, the European Union,
Korea, are gaining agreements in a much better position today.
Give you an example. Japan used to pay 25 percent to export pickup trucks to the U.S., and we used to pay zero.
Now, with the new emergency tax on -- on cars, we are paying an effective rate of 15 percent. One -- once you deduct what is being produced, parts
that are being produced in the U.S.
So, today, it cost the same for Japan and cost for Mexico to export pickup trucks before it was 25 to zero. So, in relative terms, Mexico is losing
ground as this extends without that final definition.
[12:15:12]
NEWTON: And I hear you that there's a lot at risk here, and 90 days is a long time, especially in terms of the Mexican economy itself.
So then I ask you, how do you believe President Sheinbaum has handled this so far?
VILLARREAL: Well, I do believe that the first approach of not getting to discussions or -- or -- or fights with President Trump is a good way to go
about it. But there are some points where you have to take your stance and become -- I mean, to defend the agreement that we have.
Remember, we negotiated this agreement. I did personally with Robert Lighthizer, and it was signed by Mr. Trump. And he described this agreement
as the best agreement in the world.
Now, he has changed his mind about the agreement that apparently was successful, negotiated by his first administration.
Now, he wants to change the rules. He's imposing an effective sunset after five years of the agreement in -- in -- in function, which means everything
that he wants to move is moving on unilaterally.
So, the Mexican government has to at least send signals to respect obeying by the agreement. And -- and Mexico also has the commitment and it -- and
it will be in the best interest of Mexico to obey by the agreement. Mexico has also had violations in the energy front and some other areas of the
agreement.
So there is nobody that will benefit more from the agreement that Mexico and the U.S. are trying to complain by the rule.
So, I -- I will tell you, Paula, that today, the best thing we can -- it can -- it can happen is that we immediately get into the review, get the
new agreement that Mr. Trump wants and let's negotiate on a fair trade table, this discussion.
NEWTON: OK. I hear you, Mr. -- Mr. Villarreal, I do. But the problem is, no matter what kind of facts you put on the table, and I know Canada has tried
this as well, the Trump administration, do you fear they are not interested in another trade deal that they will actually tear apart the USMCA in the
coming months when it expires next year? And we'll have a very ad hoc approach to trade with Mexico.
VILLARREAL: Well, let me tell you that as we say in Mexico, Mr. Trump will not eat fire. And I do believe that there are too many complex issues on
the Mexican-U.S. agenda, immigration, crime, narcotics, fentanyl, that today Mexico has to work very closely with the U.S. and at the same time
get the best treatment possible in terms of trade.
I believe that -- that there are a lot of items that are very, very important for the negotiating table that have to be leveraged by the
Mexican president.
I do believe there is a way out. The Mexico-U.S. relationship is not like in any other in the world. And I believe there is a way to finally arrive
into an agreement that -- that will have changes, like the strength and purpose of origin, making sure that other countries don't benefit of the
North American production platform.
But that we have to work into something that will gain back credibility and gain back certainty. Unfortunately, today, investments are -- all of them
are stopped because nothing is clear. And this is hurting the Mexican economy and the U.S. economy.
NEWTON: And this is likely why you're saying right that the 90-day extension was likely not a good thing.
You raised some very important points, and one of them has to do with the fact that the Mexican government did send thousands of troops to the
border. It actually extradited some drug leaders. I thought it was fascinating reporting by "Politico" that said that that was actually
President Sheinbaum, the best thing that she could have done, that political reports that that's why she has a rapport with the president.
Do you -- you say, though, that Mexico should use, you know, those points as leverage. Is that dangerous, though, with this administration that
President Trump will just turn on heel and say, forget it?
VILLARREAL: At the end of the day, President Trump is a pragmatist. And I do believe that he will -- he will look at the -- the package of solutions
and all the different items of the U.S.-Mexico bilateral relationship. And -- and -- and he will come to -- to a good decision.
I -- I do believe that -- that he sees Mexico with the possibility of being a partner in a way in which we can together compete vis-a-vis China and
other Asian nations.
What you don't understand today is how come he's giving somebody like Vietnam 20 percent of the tariffs, while at the same time giving Japan only
a five-point difference with the 15 percent tariffs, when -- when we know that Japan has been always an ally of the U.S.
NEWTON: I hear you, although even the American car makers have not been successful in making that argument to the Trump administration at least not
so far.
[12:20:06]
We do need to leave it there. Appreciate the conversation. Thanks so much.
VILLARREAL: Thank you, Paula.
NEWTON: Now, Apple is spending big money to avoid new tariffs promised by Donald Trump. CEO Tim Cook was at the White House on Wednesday as the
president threatened 100 percent tariffs on semiconductors and chips made in other countries. It's not clear when those might go into effect.
Cook says, Apple will invest another $100 billion to make more iPhone components in the U.S. and avoid the levies. The company has already
promised $500 billion to grow its U.S. footprint. Listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TIM COOK, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, APPLE: As a part of this, we're launching Apple's American manufacturing program. It will spur even more
production right here in America for critical components used in Apple products all around the world.
And we're thrilled to announce that we've already signed new agreements with 10 companies across America to do just that.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEWTON: Now with that said, Cook does acknowledge that iPhones will be assembled in other countries for some time to come. Experts cite the lack
of a skilled technical workforce and higher labor costs in the United States.
OK. Coming up for us. Flight turbulence is getting worse and more severe. The culprit behind the rise in those bumpy rides just ahead.
Plus, firefighters in the U.S. are trying to get a handle on wildfires in two different U.S. states.
Also, a new report reveals just how many ultra-processed foods are in American's diets.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
NEWTON: So, firefighters across the U.S. are having a rough time battling some blazes. In Southern California, crews are working to contain the
largest wildfire the state has seen this year. At last report, the fire burning north of Santa Barbara was only nine percent contained.
In Colorado, meantime, a wildfire exploded in size after merging with another fire. They already say lightning strikes are the cause of both
blazes. As of now, the one in Colorado, in fact, is at zero percent containment.
Turning now to bumpy rides in the sky, turbulence is becoming more frequent and more severe. CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar has a breakdown of the
bumpiest flight routes.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Turbulence is caused by disturbances in the atmosphere and can be one of the most unpredictable weather
phenomenon for pilots. But turbulence does have patterns and we can look at these patterns to know where some of the most turbulent routes in the world
are located.
[12:25:05]
The number one spot is actually in South America, right along the Andes Mountains. You can see on the map here where that orange red color
indicates right over the Andes Mountains where those turbulent flights are located.
Another spot, also a mountainous region, but this time in Asia. The area around the Himalayas is also known for being a very turbulent airspace.
But again, these aren't the only areas. We can also look to the United States where we have the Rocky Mountains. Portions of Europe, also where
the Alps are located, can provide some patterns of very turbulent air.
But it's not just mountains that provide turbulence. You can also have what's called clear air turbulence. Now, clear air turbulence is caused by
wind shear, a rapid change of wind speed and direction with respect to the altitude.
The concern here is climate change could end up leading to more of this type of turbulence specifically. Because as the planet warms, clear air
turbulence is also intensifying.
When looking at 2020 versus 1979, there's been a 55 percent increase over the Northern Atlantic and a 41 percent increase over the continental U.S.
So, as the planet warms, we may or may not be looking at potentially more of this clear air turbulence in areas that we wouldn't necessarily have
seen it in years past.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
NEWTON: OK. Thank you, Allison. And the lesson there, buckle up.
Now, United Airlines passengers are finally getting back in the air now that a freak system glitch has been resolved. The airline says its planes
are flying once again now that it has resolved what the company called the technology issue that grounded flights across the U.S. on Wednesday night.
The outage triggered thousands of delays and cancellations leading passengers stranded and confused quite frankly. It's still not clear what
caused the glitch.
Coming up for us.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Three drones. So there are -- there are three drones in the hospital?
The buzz and gunfire we heard outside moments earlier just how life is here.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEWTON: Civilians are bearing the brunt of Russia's offensive in the southern Ukrainian city of Kherson. CNN is on the ground there.
And later, a new report shows that more than half the calories Americans consume are from ultra-processed foods. Researchers say these serious
numbers are actually an improvement. We'll have more on that.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[12:30:06]
NEWTON: And welcome back to "One World." I'm Paula Newton in New York.
More now on our top story. Israel's Prime Minister says he intends to take military control of all of Gaza. Right now, Benjamin Netanyahu is meeting
with the security cabinet to present this plan.
Earlier, he spoke with Fox News and said the aim is to root out Hamas before handing the territory to a civilian government that is not Hamas.
Many inside Israel are warning, though, that this move is not a good idea and would displace Palestinians yet again. Sources say Israel's military
chief believes it would trap Israeli forces and endanger the lives of hostages.
Now, while the Kremlin and the White House hash out details for the meeting between U.S. President Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, Russia is trying to
cut off Kherson on the battlefield. It's the only regional Ukrainian capital initially occupied by Russia but later liberated by Ukraine.
Russian troops are still bombarding the city.
And as Nick Paton Walsh reports, they have new goals.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice- over): Russia is moving to cut off and cut up the city of Kherson, claiming its drones would hit all cars on this road into a city occupied from above
where Russian attack drones hunt your every move.
WALSH: Incredible damage being done to the city. Clearly, Russia trying to force normal life. Drones circulating around ordinary people trying to live
here.
PATON WALSH (voice-over): But this weekend, the occupier went further still, moving to split the city in two, trying to cut off its southern
island, still home to about 2,000 people, by blowing the bridge.
Drone footage caught the moment, but it was only partially successful, shredding nerves as much as concrete and sparking a southern evacuation
effort during which, oddly, the Russians seem to be letting hundreds of civilians out.
WALSH: And there seems to be some kind of pause in drone activity from what we can make out, enabling some of these evacuations.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Are you happy you left?
NADIYA, KHERSON EVACUEE (through translator): Of course. They are shelling so hard since morning. When is all of this going to end? We've already been
driven crazy by all this. When will they ever come to their senses? Causing such horror, killing everyone for "peace." When is Trump going to come? Or
anyone. At our age, we don't deserve this.
WALSH (voice-over): They left alone with almost nothing, so have even less to go to.
NINA, KHERSON EVACUEE (through translator): I'm so tired of the shelling. My nerves can't take it anymore. There is no plan; I will live where they
put me. I am on one leg, on a crutch.
WALSH (voice-over): Nine hundred and twenty-five evacuated end Wednesday, but don't try suggesting here this is Russian mercy.
YAROSLAV SHANKO, HEAD, KHERSON MILITARY ADMINISTRATION (through translator): They absolutely do not care what the targets are. Talking
about any humanity from the Russians is absolutely pointless.
WALSH (voice-over): Russian drone operators post images of their hunting people in the city.
The gaudy music as if it is sport. Wherever we go, anxiety our cameras might reveal locations to the Russians, especially at this hospital. Three
injured from drones and shelling already, and two more once we leave.
Oleh, 62, ran outside to help after one drone blast that was hit by a second.
OLEH, KHERSON RESIDENT (through translator): I couldn't even notice where it came from. I fell behind the fence. But I didn't swing my legs over.
They stayed outside. My torso was hidden and that's when it hit my legs.
[12:35:13]
WALSH (voice-over): Many are stuck here, unable to fend for themselves on release home.
WALSH: So, there are -- there are three drones over the hospital?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Yes, right now.
WALSH (voice-over): The buzz and gunfire we heard outside moments earlier, just how life is here.
The all clear has been given after the three drones overhead and now, we have to go quickly.
WALSH (voice-over): Hours after we leave, the city and island are hit hard. Russian bloggers giving all civilians a week to leave the island. Talk of
mercy here, short-lived, short-sighted too.
Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Kherson, Ukraine.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
NEWTON: We want to get more now on both of our top stories today. It's time for "The Exchange." Joining me live from Washington, D.C. is CNN global
affairs analyst Kim Dozier. Grateful to see you. And really do want to get your opinion on some of these things.
I mean, I will speak to you about the situation in the Middle East as that Israeli cabinet, security cabinet meets at this hour.
But first, to this issue of whether or not there's going to be a meeting between Ukraine, the U.S., and Putin. It seems that the conditions here
really are being set by the Kremlin yet again. How do you see this?
KIMBERLY DOZIER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Yes. I think it's likely that there will be a meeting between Putin and Trump because Putin wants that.
The bigger question is, will Zelenskyy be allowed in the room? Or will Putin try to do as he has done in the past, saying, you know, the -- the
big leaders here are the U.S. and Russia.
Ukraine is just a supplicant. They have no reason to sit at the big table until we work things out, and then we can talk about keyed later.
So, I expect to see that kind of maneuvering. Zelenskyy has always said that, you know, the president of Ukraine has always said that he is willing
to sit down with Putin right now. But Putin has continued to say that he wants things like the collapse or the replacement of the Ukrainian
government, among other demands that would never be agreed to by Ukraine or the West. So, it's unlikely that he wants to sit down face to face with
Zelenskyy right now.
NEWTON: Yes. And it is interesting here just to see who is laying the terms and conditions for this. We'll continue to watch that 24-hour deadline as
well that is upcoming on those secondary sanctions from the White House.
Now, just getting now back to Israeli politics. You know, the overlay of the domestic Israeli politics has seemed to outweigh even the consideration
of the hostages here and their lives.
Why do you believe the -- that Prime Minister Netanyahu is once again gambling on this and the fact that the U.S. administration is letting him?
DOZIER: I think Netanyahu sees an opportunity to expand Israel's territory in a way that happened under the first Trump administration. This time
possibly annexing the West Bank and calling the shots as to who governs in Gaza.
Netanyahu's been on record saying that he doesn't want the Palestinian authority to take over there. That goes part and parcel with his objections
to any formation of a Palestinian state.
Why would you allow the P.A. to get stronger by letting it rule in a second territory? But in his most recent interview with Fox News just before we
came on air here, he had said that he wants Arab forces to take over in Gaza after Israel reoccupies it.
Of course, he said at that point, he intends that that was the plan. He couldn't say it would be until this ongoing cabinet meeting finishes and
his cabinet members also agreed to it.
But it seems like he's trying to use Trump 2.0 as a way to grab territory or at the very least power and influence over these territories where
Palestinians live.
NEWTON: You know, it is fascinating that in this Fox interview, he almost tried to seem magnanimous about that, as if he was doing a good thing for
Gaza and again, unspeakable --
DOZIER: Yes.
NEWTON: -- what people in Gaza are going through each and every hour as we sit here.
The U.S. administration, Donald Trump has really had mixed signals towards this at one point saying that, you know, people are hungry there. We need
to do something about that and yet not much being done.
How long will this go on month after month after month given the fact that European allies, for instance, seem to be taking a harder line?
DOZIER: Well, if Netanyahu's current plan is accepted by the cabinet, we're looking at a several month of occupation of the rest of Gaza. The 25
percent that Israel does not control more force displacement of Palestinians and more trouble getting food to them.
[12:40:17]
Now, the Israelis have announced that they want the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which is U.S. funded to expand to 16 feeding sites. But the
problem with the GHF when it comes to Palestinians is the GHF is closely allied both with the Netanyahu government, the IDF and the White House.
Therefore, it is a target for any militia gunman inside Gaza territory that has -- or anyone who's lost family and wants to pick up a gun and shoot it
someone. So that means you're going to have this ongoing brutal military campaign to root out the rest of the tunnels where Hamas is likely hiding
the hostages.
And it will catch many civilians in the crossfire. And then you'll have civilians who are, as they are right now, overwhelming whatever truck or
aid comes in out of sheer desperation caught between the two warring factions, the IDF and Hamas.
NEWTON: You know, Kimberly, there's been a robust discussion and debate in Israel recently about what is going on in Gaza and perhaps that's happening
for the first time. And I'm wondering what you think of the interplay of that combined with what is opposition to the new plan in Gaza by most
Israelis and even the IDF.
I confess, it is very difficult to interpret the nuance of Israeli politics here. What do you make of it?
DOZIER: Yes. Well, Netanyahu has a minority government, the ultra- nationalists who are part of his coalition, therefore, have a lot of sway, though it seems that Netanyahu also wants to go in this direction, despite
the fact that the majority of Israelis in poll after poll want the war to end and the hostages out.
And Israeli military commanders are saying publicly that the Israeli military is exhausted. Reservists are starting to say no to further tours
in Gaza, even if it gets them arrested.
So, there is real dissent on the ground. There's also more reporting across Israel about the Palestinian crisis, how many are starving, the food
difficulties that everyone is facing there. And more and more Israelis are believing it.
Meanwhile, you have, as you mentioned, European powers, Britain saying that they're now going to recognize a Palestinian state legally. Most of them
choosing to do this in the upcoming U.N. General Assembly that happens in September.
Now, maybe that is just symbolic, but what could follow is hitting Israel's trade. Europe is Israel's largest trading partner, does something like 30
percent of Israel's total trade.
And if European nations finally decide that they've got to suffer not getting Israeli goods in order to make the Netanyahu government feel some
pain, I think they're going to go through with it.
NEWTON: Yes. And it is interesting that that expanded operation in Gaza, if it happens, will have real implications, as you said, perhaps even on
Israel's economy.
Kim Dozier for us, always grateful to you. Appreciate it.
Now, women in Gaza, meantime, say they feel embarrassed and degraded by the dire hygiene situation in the enclave. Israel's aid blockade has deprived
them of essential supplies like sanitary pads, soap, while access to clean water remains so scarce.
CNN spoke to a mother of six in Gaza about how her family's life has changed.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
GHADEER NASSER, MOTHER OF SIX IN GAZA (through translator): My daughter is embarrassed in front of her father and brothers. Before the war, no one in
the house even knew when she had her period. Now, it's like a public scandal.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ghadeer Nasser is one of thousands of mothers in Gaza struggling to help their daughters maintain personal hygiene. Too
embarrassed to face of the camera, Nassar has been doing everything she can to help her teenage daughter manage her period.
NASSER (through translator): Sometimes I can buy my daughter sanitary pads and something. I can't. I end up cutting pieces of cloth, washing and
disinfecting them, and telling her to use those.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Over 700,000 women and girls in Gaza are experiencing their period in these kinds of challenging conditions, often without clean
water or soap, according to the United Nations.
After months of severe restrictions from Israel, supplies of sanitary pads and tampons are now running extremely low.
[12:45:01]
NASSER (through translator): The whole situation in the camp is embarrassing. Hanging underwear outside is distressing. If someone saw
them, my daughter would be devastated. We're crammed together, surrounded by people. It's overwhelming.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: United Nations health experts have warned these short- term sanitary solutions may end up causing long-term health problems for women and girls.
NASSER (through translator): Sanitary pads are outrageously expensive. Doesn't my daughter deserve them? Isn't that one of the most basic human
rights? Our lives weren't like this. My daughter has been robbed of her girlhood. Robbed of a normal life.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
NEWTON: So, a new report is showing that more than half of the calories Americans consume are from ultra-processed foods, that's burgers,
sandwiches, and sweet bakery products. They were the most common ultra- foods that are now being eaten by Americans.
CNN's Meg Tirrell has the details for us.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MEG TIRRELL, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: So ultra-processed foods are this category of foods that includes a lot of packaged foods made with
industrially processed ingredients that we typically can't make in our own kitchen.
So, when you're looking at ingredient lists, if there's things you don't recognize, often, that is a signal that there's something in there that's
ultra-processed.
And we know that these make up a big part of the food supply, but what this is actually showing us is how much of our calories come from ultra-
processed foods.
And overall, for all Americans over the age of one, it was 55 percent of our total calories between the years 2021 and 2023 came from ultra-
processed foods.
And there's a real breakdown by age in these numbers. So, kids tend to eat more of their calories from ultra-processed foods than adults with the
biggest category being between the ages of six and 11.
Overall, youth under the age of 18 got about 62 percent of their calories from ultra-processed foods compared with 53 percent for adults over the age
of 19.
There was also a real difference in income levels in terms of their intake of ultra-processed foods. One thing we know about them is they tend to be
less expensive and more convenient, often ready to eat.
It can be more expensive to eat a less processed diet. And we see that here among adults with the highest family income, they got about 50 percent of
their calories from ultra-processed foods and that compared with 55 percent for lower income families.
[12:50:02]
Now, what are the foods that are contributing the most to our ultra- processed intake? Well, things like sandwiches, including burgers, sweet bakery products, savory snacks, pizzas, sweetened beverages, the kinds of
things that general dietary guidelines suggest that we eat less of if we can.
Now, one interesting thing in the data is that we've actually seen the numbers decrease over the last five years. So, if you look at 2017 to 2018
among kids, their intake then was 66 percent of their calories coming from ultra-processed foods.
By 2021 to 2023, that had come down to 62 percent. Of course, a lot of folks would argue that is still too high. And there are a lot of policy
things focused on this right now, particularly under the Make America Healthy Again movement from Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
So, this is a space, obviously, we'll be watching really closely and there's expected to be a lot of movement over the next few years.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
NEWTON: Indeed. Our thanks to Meg there.
Now still to come for us. One million kilometers and counting. This Canadian man's secret to keeping his car running decades longer than most
vehicles are even on the road. I want to listen to this.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
NEWTON: All right. This one's going the distance. One Canadian man has driven his car to the moon and back, figuratively, of course, and then some
in terms of distance traveled. And the car is still running like a champ.
That's thanks to a lot of love from its owner as Frances Willick reports.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
FRANCES WILLICK, REPORTER, CBC NOVA SCOTIA (voice-over): Andy Campbell's ride may not look like much to your average driver. Maybe a bit dated, a
bit low-tech, a throwback to an earlier time when cassettes were in vogue and backup cameras were just a gleam in a car designer's eye.
But if you take a closer look, you'll see there's something special about this 1985 Toyota Tercel. Not only does it run perfectly, not only is it
pretty much in mint condition. Look even closer.
The only thing wrong with this Tercel is that the odometer doesn't go up high enough. It says 253,000 kilometers, but it's missing a one as in one
million. This car has more than a million and a quarter kilometers.
CAMPBELL: So I am looking for the next million, but I don't know if I'm gonna live long enough.
WILLICK (voice-over): Don't believe him? He's got proof. And he carries it with him wherever he goes.
[12:55:01]
CAMPBELL: There's one of all of the nines and the zeros, right? See, 1.6 kilometer. Brand new car, man. One kilometer on it, right?
WILLICK (voice-over): Campbell bought the car in Halifax for $2,500 around 1990. Over the years, he stashed away enough spare parts to try to keep it
going for a million more. Except for the front-end alignment, he does all the maintenance himself. Almost everything has been replaced or repaired.
Campbell says the body is probably the only original part left and that's had work done on it too. Campbell says, although the '85 Tercel has seen a
lot of road, he mostly just takes it around the Maritimes or sometimes to Newfoundland. But he does have a backup vehicle just in case.
CAMPBELL: Would you like to see my new car? This is my new one, '86. How do you like it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I love it.
CAMPBELL: So do I.
WILLICK (voice-over): Campbell says, he's not really a car guy or a Toyota guy or even a Tercel guy. It's just his Tercel that he's so passionate
about.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
NEWTON: Loved that at the end. I wasn't prepared for that.
That does it for this hour of "One World." I'm Paula Newton. Thanks for watching. "Amanpour" is next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[13:00:00]
END