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Trump Pushing For A Meeting Between Putin And Zelenskyy; U.S. And Europe Negotiating Security Guarantees For Ukraine; Trump Moves To End Mail-In Voting Ahead Of Next Year's Midterms; U.S. COVID Vaccine Recommendations For Kids; Woman In Uruguay Hopeful For A "Dignified Death": Hamas Says It Has Agreed To A New Ceasefire Proposal; Jury Selection Begins In Trial Of Victim's Mother-In-Law; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: Ukraine says it's a must. The Kremlin though is refusing to commit.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: Ukraine will never stop on the way to peace and we are ready for any kind of format.
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GOLODRYGA: With no letup in the violence on the ground, could a meeting between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy be on the way? Donald Trump
seems to think so.
ASHER: Also, ahead, she's 74 years old and facing life in prison. The grandmother on trial for the murder of her own son-in-law.
And later.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Zelenskyy, you look fabulous in that suit.
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GOLODRYGA: Fashion takes center stage in the Oval Office during President Trump's meeting with Ukraine's president. We'll explain, coming up.
ASHER: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You're watching the second hour of "One World."
It doesn't matter whether we call it a ceasefire or a truce, Russia must immediately stop the violence in Ukraine.
ASHER: Now, those words coming from the European Council president at a virtual meeting he hosted earlier one day after Volodymyr Zelenskyy and top
European leaders met with Donald Trump at the White House.
But Moscow, which overnight launched its largest attack on Ukraine in weeks, is refusing to commit to bilateral talks between Zelenskyy and
Putin.
And a short time ago, Trump said that it's possible Putin doesn't want to make a deal. And he appeared to threaten the Russian leader, while also,
once again, hinting about Ukrainian territorial concessions.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I hope President Putin is going to be good. And if he's not, that's going to be a rough situation.
And I hope that Zelenskyy, who President Zelenskyy will do what he has to do. He has -- he has to show some flexibility also.
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ASHER: The Ukrainian president, who is pressing for security guarantees, has repeatedly said that Kyiv will not see it land to Moscow. Here's how
Zelenskyy addressed the issue on Monday.
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ZELENSKYY (through translator): The question of territories is a question that we will save for me and Putin to decide.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, one day after suggesting that he was open to the idea, President Trump is now ruling out sending U.S. troops to Ukraine to help
enforce a potential peace deal.
CNN's Alayna Treene joins us live from the White House. And as is common now, some of these questions that were a bit murky yesterday following the
meeting with President Zelenskyy and European leaders were answered in further detail on Fox News when he called into the morning program there.
And they asked him directly about what any sort of U.S. defense would look like in terms of security guarantees. And he was asked point blank about
boots on the ground. And, Alayna, he said no.
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yes. He essentially ruled it out. What he was asked was -- and it wasn't only about will you, you know, give
assurances that there will not be U.S. troops on the ground, but should there be concern that perhaps, you know, once he's out of office, you know,
how can you give any assurances about future presidents of the United States committing to not put boots on the ground? Listen to how he
responded.
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CHARLES HURT, FOX NEWS HOST: But, Mr. President, what kind of assurances do you feel like you have that going forward and, you know, past this Trump
administration, it won't be American boots on the ground defending that border?
TRUMP: Well, you have my assurance and I'm president.
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TREENE: So, Zain and Bianna, when I asked a White House official just to clarify, it was that the president confirming that he does not want any
American military presence in Ukraine if a deal is struck as part of these security guarantees.
And, essentially, that official told me, yes, that he is ruling it out and that he is very emphatic in that decision. And so despite kind of leaving
the door open to something like that yesterday, it appears now that they are taking that off the table.
However, in that same conversation with this official, they told me that there are, of course, other ways that the United States can defend Ukraine.
And what we've heard from the president, he said it again this morning in that phone interview with Fox News, is that he does still believe that
European and -- and the United States, European allies really, have to be the first line of defense. He argues they are closer in proximity to
Ukraine. And so really, the onus is still largely on them.
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However, he does want the United States to help in making sure that Ukraine is protected, particularly on this idea of ensuring that if a peace
agreement is struck, that at last, that, you know, you don't have Russia or Putin coming back in and trying to retake territory in a couple years or
months or however it may be, long from -- from that point. And so that's really where the president's mindset is when it comes to U.S. military
present.
As for the broader question of what could the specific security guarantees look like, I'm told that those conversations, the details of that, those
still need to be decided.
And I can tell you as well, Zain and Bianna, that -- that was really the focus, the main focus, I should say, of the conversations that President
Trump had yesterday with the seven European leaders who were there and Zelenskyy, of course.
And then, of course, the other big priority, but we saw this really come together later in the day, was this idea of the -- of President Trump
really working toward having a bilateral meeting between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
Still very much unclear whether or not that's even possible. You know, we haven't heard any commitments from the Kremlin that they would be willing
to do it. But that is very much where President Trump personally feels like is the next natural step and really the next necessary step to ensuring
that they find an end to this war.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. He specifically said that he has, quote, sort of set up a meeting between Russian President Putin and Ukrainian president Zelenskyy.
I don't know what sort of set up means, but definitely.
ASHER: Everyone is skeptical of that could ever happen.
GOLODRYGA: It definitely in Trump's view, at least it is still on the table.
Alayna Treene, thank you.
ASHER: All right. Let's talk a little bit more about those security guarantees. Part of the deal would be for Ukraine to purchase $90 billion
worth in American weapons with the help of European funding.
Zach Cohen joins us live now from Washington with more. So Zelenskyy was also saying Trump wants Europe to be the first line of defense in terms of
any kind of security guarantees. But he did say that the U.S. should be involved and that the U.S. will offer some kind of protection.
Just walk us through what any security guarantees that the U.S. will be providing. What will they look like?
ZACHARY COHEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Really the key outcome for European leaders yesterday after that White House meeting was securing a commitment
from President Donald Trump to at least be involved in coordinating what these security assurances for Ukraine could look like. And we're seeing
through the detailed work the process of putting together a proposal as these negotiations continue. That's currently unfolding as we speak. And
we'll continue over the next coming days.
We heard from Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky that this should be sorted out within 10 days. And that initial plans do include the prospect
of Ukraine purchasing $90 billion worth of U.S. weapons sort of via European funding.
And that's sort of a construct that Donald Trump has really emphasized related to Ukraine and selling weapons to Ukraine during his second term.
He really wants the Europeans to take the lion share of the responsibility when it comes to paying for and providing weapons, even U.S. made weapons
to Ukraine.
So, as -- as we talked about earlier, look, Donald Trump has made clear that he is not going to put U.S. boots on the ground in Ukraine. But does
not appear to have ruled out some other possibilities like providing air support for European troops that potentially could enter Ukraine.
Obviously, the weapons sales and arming Ukraine, continuing to arm Ukraine, will be an essential security assurance that the Ukrainians and Europeans
will be pushing for.
Oh, look, ultimately, at the end of the day, though, this does come down to what President Donald Trump decides matches his expectations. We know that
NATO military leaders, including Chairman of Joint Chiefs Dan Caine, will be meeting on Wednesday to discuss Ukraine and discuss these security
assurances.
Now, obviously, NATO, the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, is a top U.S. general stationed in Europe as well. So, the U.S. will be heavily
represented in that meeting.
And, look, the Russians are already making clear that they reject any idea of a NATO sort of style military presence in Ukraine going forward. That's
almost certainly going to be a point of tension if these conversations and negotiations between Russia, Ukraine, and the U.S. continue.
ASHER: All right. Zach Cohen live for us there. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: CNN global affairs commentator Sabrina Singh joins us now live from Washington.
And, Sabrina, the issue over security guarantees, specifically from the United States, seems to be the key takeaway here and -- and question going
forward in terms of what that detail could look like. Obviously, a win for Ukraine, but only when it's translated from hypotheticals to something
that's actually tangible.
The president seemed to float the idea of some sort of air support as well. It's understandable that given that they are the closest there in Europe,
that European countries would bear the brunt of that defense mechanism.
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But what would it look like from your perspective if the United States did contribute more specifically with air support and intelligence?
SABRINA SINGH, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: I think that's what we're trying to understand. What does security guarantees from the United States look
like?
Already, the Ukrainians are buying military capabilities from the United States. Europe clearly from the -- the meeting that took place yesterday at
the White House, European allies, and President Zelenskyy are putting pressure on Donald Trump to put more meat on the bones on what those
security guarantees look like for Ukraine, because ultimately, security guarantees have to be binding. They have to come with this, you know, teeth
behind them.
And we've seen these security guarantees sort of floundered before, you know, in 1994, there was a PAC signed and then, of course, in 2014, Russia
invaded Crimea. And we didn't really see those -- those types of security guarantees that I think what Ukraine is looking for today come forward back
then.
And so it remains to be seen and it remains to be seen what this sort of air support could really look like from the United States.
ASHER: And, Sabrina, just the fact that despite everything that's happening right now with the potential negotiations and everyone sort of trying to
push for some kind of peace deal to take place, you've got Russia continuing to bombard Ukraine.
And on top of that, you've got the fact that Trump doesn't seem to think that there's any need at this point. I mean, he's flip-flopped back and
forth. But at this point, he does not seem to think that there's any need for a ceasefire to take place in Ukraine in order to allow the conditions
or the right conditions for there to be any kind of peace negotiations.
I mean, this idea of just continuously bending to what Vladimir Putin wants. What do you make of that in all of this?
SINGH: Well, I think it's an important point -- a point that you make. Before the Alaska summit when President Trump and President Putin met,
Russia was continuing its air barrages against Ukrainian cities, you know, hours before that meeting and then continued soon after that.
So, we haven't seen Russians let up and they are really overwhelming Ukrainian air defenses and cities day after day. And so Putin, to some
extent, doesn't really have a -- a real need or want or desire to come to the negotiating table with President Zelenskyy. And that's also someone
that he doesn't view at the same caliber as him. You know, he has said time and time again that President Zelenskyy is not someone that he would meet
with.
So, it does remain to be seen if President Putin will sit down with President Zelenskyy for a bilateral meeting or if this is just Putin's way
of running out the clock a little bit more.
And then I think to your second point, we don't have a ceasefire that's put into place. And that was something that President Trump went into the
Alaska summit with an as stated goal and essentially walked out of there and basically caved on that point.
And a ceasefire would be essential for Zelenskyy and Putin to meet even it is -- if it is temporarily because both leaders, if they -- if there is
some type of bilateral meeting, would need to have serious conversations of what a diplomatic resolution to the end of this work could really look like
and the fight cannot be raging as these two leaders are meeting.
GOLODRYGA: President Trump also said today that President Zelenskyy is going to have to show some sort of flexibility. Many interpreted that as
President Zelenskyy being open to territorial concessions and giving in to territorial concessions. As we heard, President Putin said that he now
wants all of the Donbas region there in order to freeze the fighting.
And in response to that, the European leaders, in addition to President Zelenskyy yesterday, when they were trying to explain to him the
significance of why this would be such a loss for Ukraine and why it's so difficult for President Zelenskyy to sign off on this, I use the analogy of
this being akin to half of Eastern Florida being given away to another party. And President Trump seemed to be struck by that analogy.
What does that say in terms of the vulnerability that the president still seems to find himself in, that he can be so swayed perhaps by all of these
different voices in his head?
SINGH: Well, I think the problem here is that President Trump, and we've seen this administration continue to put pressure and concessions on
Ukraine when they are the territory that was invaded by the aggressor of Russia and Vladimir Putin's war of choice.
And so what Putin wants is Ukraine to give up some territory in that Eastern Donbas region that you're discussing of some of the territory that
hasn't even been occupied by Russia. Some of it that would take approximately four years by Ukrainian estimates for Russia to actually
occupy.
So, we're talking about a sovereign country, Ukraine, giving up territory to Russia that Russia hasn't even fully occupied in this war. And -- and so
I think European allies, President Zelenskyy, presenting that fact to President Trump yesterday, I think is an important one.
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And I hope fully that does sway the president and make him realize that, you know, the Ukrainians are really in the fight of their lives, and -- and
that the pressure really needs to be put on Russia right now, because Russia is really the one that could end this war tomorrow. But instead, you
know, it rages on, and we're seeing those aerial attacks day by day continuing to kill innocent people in Ukraine.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And they're rewarded with summits and continued phone calls between the two leaders as well.
SINGH: That's right.
ASHER: And you've -- you've also got President Trump putting the blame and the onus on Ukraine, you know, saying essentially, you know, why would you
pick a fight with a country that's 10 times your size as if it was Ukraine that actually started this war in the first place?
Sabrina Singh live for us there. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
All right. President Trump says he's drafting an executive order to terminate mail-in ballots nationwide before next year's midterms, and
again, called for regulation as he falsely continues to claim the U.S. is the only country using the system.
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TRUMP: Vladimir Putin, smart guy, said you can't have an honest election with mail-in voting. And he said there's not a country in the world that
uses it now.
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ASHER: That is, of course, not true. Multiple countries use mail-in ballots, including Australia, Canada, Germany, Switzerland, and the U.K.
GOLODRYGA: It is notable that President Putin once again is involving himself in U.S. elections.
Trump has long blamed the system for his 2020 election loss, but election experts say there is no evidence of widespread mail-in ballot fraud or
voter fraud, period.
Well, now officials in Colorado, which votes almost universally by mail, have vowed to fight back.
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JENA GRISWOLD, COLORADO SECRETARY OF STATE: The Constitution is extremely clear. States oversee elections, not Donald Trump. Donald Trump is trying
to power grab ahead of the '26 elections. That's what this is about. We will stop him, just like I've stopped him from rolling back mail ballots
multiple times. And we will fight any attempt to disenfranchise millions of Americans all across the country.
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ASHER: All right. Let's bring in our chief data cruncher, Harry Enten. Harry, it's been a while. I've certainly missed you. It's been at least --
GOLODRYGA: When was the last time we were all together?
ASHER: I think it's three weeks, honestly.
HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Yes, I think so. It's been a long time.
ASHER: If not more. If not more.
GOLODRYGA: Way too long.
ASHER: So, obviously, you have a lot of people in this country, Harry, who rely on mail-in ballots, whether it's people with disabilities, whether
it's seniors. I mean, the list goes on.
And so when you have Donald Trump essentially intimating that mail-in voting leads to a fraud, just walk us through what most Americans think of
that.
ENTEN: You know, I just have to say --
ASHER: Would (INAUDIBLE)?
ENTEN: Yes. I just have to say to start off with, when I think of honest elections, I think of Vladimir Putin, right? I mean, that's the guy I would
definitely say.
ASHER: Interesting that Trump quoted Putin on that.
GOLODRYGA: He's winning. He keeps winning, Harry. He may be onto something.
ENTEN: Oh, he keeps winning. Oh.
ASHER: Smart guy. Smart guy.
ENTEN: Oh, on that case, you know. Unbelievable.
GOLODRYGA: A nail-biter elections, yes.
ENTEN: Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Those -- those were really toss-ups.
Look, here's the bottom line here. Here's the bottom line. You know, all of this kind of boggles the mind. But I think what's so important to note is
that the American people are not with Donald Trump on this. They think he's full of it. What are we talking about here?
So, why don't we take a look here? Allow anyone to vote earlier absentee. We have both measurement in 2020 and 2024. In 2020, look at that. You got
about two-thirds of the folks say anyone should be allowed to vote earlier absentee.
And despite years, despite years of Donald Trump going after mail-voting, look at where we were in 2024. Basically the same percentage here. We're
talking about 60 percent of the American public who say that.
In fact, anyone should be allowed to vote earlier absentee without needing -- needing an excuse. And that includes, I should point out, 37 percent of
Republicans. So, even amongst his base, they're not completely with Donald Trump on this particular issue.
Now, of course, all of this kind of comes back to the 2020 election. And the fugazi idea that Donald Trump has tried to put out that somehow that
election win by Joe Biden was illegitimate, which, of course, we know is false. We know is false.
And here's the thing. The American public knows it's false as well. Biden's 2020 election win was legitimate. Look at this. In December of 2020, it was
60 percent. We have in December of 2024. Look at that. If anything, it was up slightly, up to 63 percent.
So the bottom line is yes. While there is some substantial minority of the folks who agree with Trump, the clear majority of the American public does
not agree with them. They do, in fact, believe that Biden's 2020 win was in fact legitimate.
Now, of course, in terms of wrapping this up, we'll come back to the mail voting and we'll note here. OK. Mail votes counted as the voters intended.
Voters who are confident that that is so.
For the 2020 election, look at this. It was 59 percent of voters. Again, the clear majority. And then in 2024, the most recent election, look at
this 75 percent of voters, in fact, believe that the mail votes were counted as intended.
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And that 75 percent, in fact, includes 72 percent of Republicans who of course that percentage went up. I don't think it's much of a surprise
because Donald Trump, you know, won the 2024 election which he did legitimately just like Joe Biden won the 2020 election legitimately.
But the bottom line here is really simple. If Donald Trump is listening to the American people then he would believe that male voting is legitimate,
if he's in fact listening to Vladimir Putin who knows about as much about legitimate elections as I do about shoe policy at this company that, in
fact, he would not think so.
ASHER: Can you actually show us the shoes you're wearing?
ENTEN: Hold on. Look at this.
GOLODRYGA: There's our shoe policy.
ENTEN: They're -- they're waterproof, but they're quite dirty and disgusting. And I think I've had them as long as the last time that Donald
Trump was in the White House. So, what was that --
ASHER: No.
ENTEN: -- back in early '22? Oh, these shoes --
ASHER: Harry, we're going to get -- when's your birthday? I'm going to get you any pair of shoes. (INAUDIBLE)
ENTEN: My birthday is every day if you're buying me something.
GOLODRYGA: Listen, I think that's a testament to the shoes. They're sturdy. They -- good job. Well done. They're not worn out.
ENTEN: I think these shoes are so old that I think my mom actually got them for me when I was maybe in college. No, not that -- not that long, but
still very long.
ASHER: We got a -- we gave a free commercial on CNN to a shoe company.
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
ENTEN: I wish I --
ASHER: Hush Puppies would love this.
ENTEN: I wish --
GOLODRYGA: I thought you were going to whip out some flip-flops, Harry. So no. That -- that's against our policy, I believe.
ENTEN: I wish I could tell you which company the shoe was but the truth is that the brand name is worn out in the shoe.
ASHER: Harry, did you get a haircut my dear?
ENTEN: No. I do need a haircut though.
ASHER: Oh, okay.
ENTEN: Very, very much so.
ASHER: They look --
ENTEN: Well, I -- well, I thank you. I think it looks really good. I think everything.
ASHER: I do think so too.
ENTEN: I think I'm actually going to put together today.
GOLODRYGA: You need to talk to the bosses about a bonus. Get your haircut, new shoes. I mean, come on. Time to (INAUDIBLE).
ENTEN: We will -- we will get on it. We will -- we will put this and send it right to him.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Harry.
ASHER: Oh, my gosh. I meant Harry the laughter. I mean, I miss you. You make my stomach hurt that I'm laughing so much.
GOLODRYGA: Good pain. Good pain. Good pain.
ENTEN: We -- we -- good pain. Good pain. Heart stall.
ASHER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: Bye.
ASHER: Bye, Harry.
ENTEN: Bye.
ASHER: All right. Still to come.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mm-hmm.
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GOLODRYGA: A shocking brush with disaster. And every second of it caught on camera. I've seen that like five times I still can't get over it. We'll
tell you what happened after the break.
ASHER: Plus, recommendations for children and the COVID vaccine. Why the American Academy of Pediatrics has a different opinion from the CDC.
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ASHER: All right. Terrifying moments for a couple of YouTube food influencers who are in the middle of a restaurant review. When this
happened.
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GOLODRYGA: Unbelievable. An SUV crashed into this Houston restaurant as the pair was enjoying a meal and talking about it on camera.
Now, they posted an update from the hospital saying they were lucky to be alive. It is not immediately clear. However, what caused the driver to
crash?
ASHER: Gosh. My goodness.
The leading pediatrics group in the U.S. is breaking with recommendations from the country's Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends the COVID vaccine for all children, ages six months through 23 months, unless they
have known allergies to the vaccine or its ingredients, but that is not what the CDC is recommending.
ASHER: For more on this, especially ahead of COVID and flu season. And, of course, as kids return to school next week or two, rather, I'm joined now
by CNN medical correspondent, Meg Tirrell.
Meg, what more can you tell us?
MEG TIRRELL, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the American Academy of Pediatrics has always put out its own vaccine recommendations, but usually,
we don't pay a whole lot of attention to them because they're not that different from what the CDC recommends. But now, of course, that is quite a
different story.
They're saying they're breaking with the CDC's recommendations because of so many policy changes we've seen under President Trump and Robert F.
Kennedy Jr., the head of the Department of Health and Human Services.
So saying now that their recommendations, quote, differ from recent recommendations of the advisory committee on immunization practices of the
CDC, which was overhauled this year and replaced with individuals who have a history of spreading vaccine misinformation.
Now, we reached out to HHS on that -- that quote, and they essentially called on the American Academy of Pediatrics to strengthen their conflict
of interest safeguards. And they said that the group is undermining national immunization policy making with baseless political attacks.
Now, you can see the disagreements coming to a head here. But what the recommendations actually are from the American Academy of Pediatrics is
that all babies and small children under the age of two should receive a COVID vaccine. They say because they are especially vulnerable to severe
COVID.
And if you look at CDC's data, you actually do see that small children are almost as vulnerable to COVID hospitalization as people in their 60s. And
so there is still vulnerability there for severe COVID.
The "AP" notes that vaccines -- these COVID vaccines are very safe for all populations. For older children, they recommend that it's sort of up to
them if they're healthy and don't have underlying conditions along with their parents and doctors, but whether to get vaccinated.
The CDC's recommendation is essentially optional for children who are not immune compromised of any age. And that goes against what these
pediatricians and a lot of public experts say is the right way to do it, guys.
ASHER: Meg Tirrell live for us there. Meg, thank you. Appreciate it.
GOLODRYGA: Well, right now, just a handful of countries worldwide legally allow euthanasia or assisted dying.
A woman in Uruguay who's been suffering from ALS for years is now hoping that her country will join that list.
ASHER: Yes. She's asking for the law to be changed so that she can have a dignified death. What is dignified to one person can be considered murder
to some others?
CNN's Dario Klein has the story.
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DARIO KLEIN, CNN ESPANOL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is not just another day for Beatriz Gelos. With the help of friends, she manages to
reach the Uruguayan parliament because she wants to witness a moment she has been waiting for, for years.
She says the ribbon she wears is in favor of euthanasia. Gelos suffers from ALS. She says doctors predicted she would die from the neurodegenerative
disease 15 years ago. But her decline was much slower than expected.
I am worsening too slowly, she says. And I would like this to end.
Slowly, she lost mobility in almost her entire body and can do almost nothing on her own. She has trouble breathing and even sleeping.
KLEIN: She's saying that she would like this to go faster. Her life is -- she's saying it's like hell and she's having a lot of pain in every
position.
KLEIN (voice-over): That is why she says she's hopeful that the so-called "Dignified Death" Law will be approved in Uruguay.
She was there when the lawmakers passionately debated the law.
FEDERICO PREVE, URUGUAYAN REPRESENTATIVE (through translator): It's about love, about humanity, about empathy. It's about people with very tough
illnesses who are suffering.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Do we want to be a society that offers death as a response to suffering?
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KLEIN (voice-over): And almost unintentionally, she became a face of the debate.
LUIS GALLO, URUGUAYAN REPRESENTATIVE (through translator): Behind euthanasia, there are real people, human faces who are here with us in the
stands.
KLEIN (voice-over): Lawmakers read a letter out loud that she wrote them two years ago.
GALLO (through translator): My life would be more dignified if I could clean myself, write by hand, talk on the phone, scratch an itch, drink
water when I'm thirsty, or take care of others.
I don't know if with my increasing difficulties, even with palliative care, day-to-day life will be bearable, which is why I want the peace of mind of
knowing that I will be able to choose when the time comes, whether it's worth continuing this ordeal or not.
KLEIN (voice-over): But her request is not just for her.
"Many other people suffers horrible sickness. I didn't know there were so many things that they -- they had no cure.
Among those who opposed the law is the Uruguayan Catholic Church. Gelos is a Catholic who sometimes, she says, believes in God.
Sometimes, yes, sometimes she doesn't.
She feels sometimes the presence of God.
She has already earned her place in the heaven which she has lived here.
I asked her if she believes there is something else after death.
"I don't know," she says.
Do you want that there is something? Yes, she nods.
Dario Klein, CNN, Montevideo.
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ASHER: All right. And still to come.
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN ANCHOR: Help me out here. What or who is holding up a ceasefire today?
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ASHER: Becky Anderson puts Egypt's foreign minister on the spot as mediators renew the push to end the fighting. CNN's exclusive reporting
after the break.
GOLODRYGA: Also ahead, jury selection begins in Florida where this grandmother faces first-degree murder charges for her alleged role in a
murder-for-hire plot that ended in the killing of her son-in-law.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
Hamas says it has agreed to a new ceasefire proposal, as the humanitarian crisis in Gaza continues to worsen with every minute.
Today, the United Nations Human Rights Office has said that while Israel is letting some supplies in, it's simply not enough. Take a listen.
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THAMEEN AL-KHEETAN, SPOKESPERSON, UNITED NATIONS HUMAN RIGHTS OFFICE: The risk of starvation is everywhere in Gaza. This is a direct result of the
Israeli government's policy of blocking humanitarian aid.
In the past few weeks, Israeli authorities have only allowed aid to enter in quantities that remain far below what would be required to avert
widespread starvation. Reaching the meager supplies available can be a deadly pursuit.
Since the 27th of May and up until the 17th of August, we have documented that 1,857 Palestinians were killed while seeking food.
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GOLODRYGA: With the death toll continuing to rise, mediators are pushing to renew talks between parties in hopes of securing a deal.
Becky Anderson has been speaking with the Egyptian foreign minister about the possibility of achieving a ceasefire in this critical moment. Here's
part of their exclusive conversation.
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ANDERSON: Help me out here. What or who is holding up a ceasefire today?
BADR ABDELATTY, EGYPTIAN FOREIGN MINISTER: It's -- to be frank with you the lack of political will, especially from the Israeli side. We are pushing
the Hamas side in order to show more flexibility and the --
ANDERSON: What does that mean show more flexibility? I mean, Israel says it wants to defeat Hamas and clearly feels it is close to doing that. Will
Hamas surrender at this point?
ABDELATTY: I mean, again, we have to be practical. We have to be reasonable. What we have to do now is to implement the proposal of Steve
Witkoff, the U.S. Special Envoy.
ANDERSON: Which is a phased partial agreement, a temporary truce.
ABDELATTY: At least to have a cooling off period to allow more trucks to enter into Gaza.
And during the 60 days of the ceasefire, to engage in a serious negotiations to make the ceasefire sustainable.
ANDERSON: Can I be clear, Foreign Minister? Is that the only proposal then on the table at present? The -- the Witkoff proposal to all intents and
purposes.
ABDELATTY: This is the practical one. Of course, the Israelis are talking about ending the war.
ANDERSON: A one and done.
ABDELATTY: Having a -- a comprehensive deal. But they are putting impossible, you know, conditions to be realized on the ground.
ANDERSON: Can you explain what those impossible conditions are?
ABDELATTY: I mean -- I mean by talking about, of course, disarming Hamas now. That they will not allow neither Hamas or Fatah or the Palestinian
Authority to be here in -- in Gaza. This is something, you know, not logic and not practical.
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ASHER: Time now for "The Exchange." Joining us live to discuss all of this from Cairo is CNN's Becky Anderson to give us her analysis on the ceasefire
proposal and also the situation in Gaza.
So, here we have a situation where you've got Hamas essentially agreeing to the framework of a potential deal. And the ball is clearly now in Israel's
court. Netanyahu, Becky, as you know, is under so much political pressure to agree to some kind of deal that we saw over the weekend. Half a million
people. Half a million Israelis taking to the streets. And in a country that has a population of nine million, that is a huge number.
Just walk us through what Netanyahu's options are at this point as he faces so much pressure at home.
ANDERSON: Well, that proposal that we are told Hamas has agreed to is now sitting with the Israeli Prime Minister, whose position we know has
hardened since the last time. This very same or almost the same, very similar proposal was tabled back in May. Negotiations around this proposal
falling apart back in July.
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His position has hardened since then. His security cabinet has agreed to extending and escalating Israel's war in Gaza with the threat of a siege on
Gaza City and the continued determination to destroy Hamas.
Benjamin Netanyahu wants a sort of one and done comprehensive deal, the end of Hamas, the release of all hostages and the removal of Hamas as an entity
from Gaza at this point. That is different from the proposal that now sits with him, which was negotiated over the weekend by the mediators, Qatar and
Egypt, here in Cairo.
It has been an extremely busy 48 hours by these mediators, including the arrival here of the Qatar Prime Minister to try and ratchet our efforts to
get Hamas in the first instance to agree to this, which is what has happened. I think the Israelis on board as well.
Why this effort at present? Well, this is why. Because of the threat of that expanded operation by Israel, the mediators say that could further
endanger the lives of those hostages who are still living in captivity in Gaza and further exacerbate the already catastrophic humanitarian
situation.
They are really, really concerned at this point that should Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, decide that a temporary truce, a 60-day truce with the
release in the first instance of half of those hostages is simply not what the Israelis are going to agree to, despite the protests that you rightly
point out in Tel Aviv and around the country over the weekend. So this thing could get completely out of control and things could get so much
worse on the ground.
So, that is where things stand at the moment. The Israelis have the proposal in front of them. Steve Witkoff, the U.S. envoy, Trump's envoy on
this Gaza file, has been invited here by Qatar and Egypt, the main mediators, invited here to Cairo to try and ensure that there is some
momentum on this.
Some momentum would only come, of course, if an Israeli delegation ultimately agrees to come and really hammer out the details of this deal.
And we are not really across. We haven't been party to what those specific details are, although we've been told they are very, very similar to those
that we understood from what's known as the Witkoff deal back in May, which fell apart, as I say, in July.
So, that is how things stand at the moment. Real, real concern about what happens next and real efforts on the part of these mediators to get a deal
done, which will provide a comprehensive framework, they say, for a real solution and end of this war.
GOLODRYGA: Right. And when you talk about the pressure on Prime Minister Netanyahu, on the one hand, you have those scenes, those images of the
hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets, protesting nearly two years into this war.
And on the other hand, you have some of the far-right members of his own coalition and government that are pressuring him as well, not to accept
that deal.
Becky, in the meantime, the issue of aid and aid delivery, getting into Gaza, yes, more aid has been coming in the last few weeks, but not enough,
according to a number of experts there.
What are you hearing? And what are foreign minister tell you on this front about getting more aid in?
ANDERSON: Well, to that point, Bianna, we were with the foreign minister at the Rafah border crossing on the Egyptian side, where he travelled
yesterday, and we accompanied him with a Palestinian delegation there, including the Palestinian Prime Minister, to see exactly what is going on
the Egyptian side of the border.
But the Egyptians are under enormous pressure, both internationally and domestically, critics telling -- suggesting that they are simply not doing
enough to alleviate the suffering of those in Gaza, suggesting these critics say that they are complicit in the blocking of aid.
Now, you know, what we learn at that border is, you know, according to the Egyptian foreign minister and everything that we can see at that border,
the aid is there, which holds some 5,000 trucks worth of aid out there. We saw many, many trucks.
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We saw many cartons of medical supplies, ICU beds that have been sent on trucks to the -- to the border. They get through the border to what is an
Israeli vetting position. Even though they've been approved, these trucks get sent back. Maybe four times there is medical equipment and aesthetic
equipment, wheelchairs, generators, ICU beds that are very specifically designed only for intensive care operations, which are badly needed, of
course, in Gaza.
So, we witnessed with our own eyes the efforts that are being made by the Egyptian Red Crescent who run the logistics on the Rafah side of the
border.
And I talked to the Foreign Minister about the fact that that Egyptian border, they say, is open 24/7. There are other points though that --
crossings that are not open, and the Israelis are controlling into Gaza.
And the frustrations on that side of the border are clear from the people working there at Rafah and clear from the authorities here. They are doing
what they can at this point to try and effect as much aid into Gaza as possible.
But so much of that aid, both food and -- and medical, is getting held up in the vetting process by the Israelis who control the Gaza side of the
border. And it's a real mess.
And unless a truce is affected, and that needs both sides to sign up to that, it's only going to get worse. And that is the -- the word and the
impression from the mediators that I talk to you here.
ASHER: Becky Anderson live for us there. Thank you for joining us from Cairo.
And you can watch Becky's full interview with the Egyptian foreign minister on our website, cnn.com.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Hamas is among the new parties named in the United Nations' annual report on conflict related sexual violence. Their inclusion
is based on findings by the U.N. and Bar-Ilan University's project, Dinah Publishing, which found reasonable grounds to believe that some of the
hostages have been subjected to various forms of sexual violence in captivity. Hamas is rejecting the findings, saying the report lacks legal
basis or reliable evidence.
ASHER: And the group alleges that the report also fails to recognize Israel as a perpetrator, despite what they say is ample evidence of sexual
violence against Palestinian civilians as well, saying, quote, "This blatant duality represents a dangerous deviation from the principle of
equality before international law and the blatant politicization of U.N. mechanisms."
We'll be right back after this short break.
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ASHER: All right. Jury selection has begun in the U.S. state of Florida where this woman, take a look here, Donna Adelson faces first-degree murder
charges as well as charges of conspiracy and solicitation for alleged -- her alleged role in a murder-for-hire plot.
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GOLODRYGA: Now, the plot ended in the death of her former son-in-law, Dan Markel. He was a law professor at Florida State University who was going
through a bitter divorce and custody battle with Adelson's daughter.
Jean Casarez joins us now with the latest. Tell us more about this really disturbing story, Jean.
JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Oh, it's -- it's real life. And right now, I want to tell you, jury selection has started today. They're going on the
individual voir dire right now on publicity, because this is a very publicized case.
And it's true, Donna Adelson is the defendant. She's the mother-in-law. And the two people that were hired in all of this, they were actual hit men.
And it all started in 2014. And that is when her daughter, who was Wendi Adelson, she had three children, but you're going to hear a lot about
Wendi.
Wendi was married to Dan Markel. They were both attorneys. Dan Markel was a Harvard educated lawyer. He was a professor full-time at Florida State
University. But he was really going places because he was making national speeches and lectures at -- at legal organizations. And he was a young man
with a bright future.
And they had two young children, two little boys. Well, the marriage started going south. And they started having lots of problems. They would
argue and they would fight. And so they filed for divorce.
Well, the whole Adelson family, who were very wealthy, they lived on South Beach, Donna and her husband, they got involved because they wanted Wendi
and the two little boys to move back up to South Beach, to Miami area.
And Markel said, no, I want to be around my sons. I want to watch them grow up. I want to be close. So they actually went to a judge. And the judge
ruled in Dan Markel's favor and said that the children needed to be raised near their father and that Wendi would have to stay close to the family.
So, that started everything right there because Wendi's brother, Charles, started to say, you know what? I can get some hit men. That is exactly what
he did.
They drove down. Dan Markel was driving back into his driveway after dropping his kids off at daycare. He was shot twice in the head by the hit
men. And that was the spiral because they had to be paid. There are intercepts. There's FBI wiretaps.
Donna actually allegedly gave the money to her son. And it was washed money. We got to see what that means. And she is now charged with these
crimes. And there's a lot of -- a lot of forensicists is going into this. But we're going to have a camera in the courtroom. We can watch this.
She's 75 years old now. And she's facing life in prison. Her son has already been convicted. The two hit men convicted. They're all going to
testify, including her daughter, Wendi.
GOLODRYGA: Unbelievable.
ASHER: It's the chill and one of the more sort of chilling stories. And we've covered a lot of chilling stories on the show with you, Jean.
GOLODRYGA: And don't take it the wrong way. But we could listen to you tell these stories over and over again.
ASHER: We were just whispering that as you were speaking. But I mean -- I mean --
GOLODRYGA: The details.
CASAREZ: And it's real life.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Yes. It's real life. Right.
CASAREZ: These are people that were very esteemed in society and -- and very well spoken of. And this is what happened.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And missing their father.
Jean Casarez in New York. Thank you so much.
CASAREZ: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: And we'll be right back.
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ASHER: Fashion has played an unlikely part in the talks aimed at ending the war in Ukraine. Russia's foreign minister calls the stir after he arrived
in Alaska wearing a sweater embellished with CCCP. These are letters for the Soviet Union. U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying he liked the
sweater.
GOLODRYGA: Meanwhile, at the White House, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy chose to change his signature wartime look to an all-black suit. It seemed
to go down well with host President Trump, who, during Zelenskyy's last visit, had criticized his attire.
And while we're on the subject, just for fun, who could forget this?
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JAMES AUSTIN JOHNSON, AMERICAN COMEDIAN: And you know what? You're also -- you're not even wearing a suit. It's disrespectful. Who shows up to the
White House in a t-shirt and jeans like a garbage person?
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GOLODRYGA: That was like a too-soon moment. I was still so traumatized from that Oval Office exchange.
ASHER: I know.
GOLODRYGA: But, yes, they made a good point there.
All right. That does it for "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Appreciate you watching. She'll be right back with "Amanpour" after this short break.
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