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GOV. SPENCER COX (R-UT): Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him.
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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Bianna Golodryga in New York. You've been watching CNN's continuing coverage of the arrest of a
suspect in the killing of conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk.
Officials say Tyler Robinson was taken into custody on Thursday evening after a 33-hour manhunt. The 22-year-old lived with his family in
Washington County, Utah. He was not a student at Utah Valley University where Kirk was shot and killed.
Utah Governor Spencer Cox says Robinson acted alone and urged the young, politically active fans resist the urge to lash out.
At a news conference earlier, the governor said the assassination was much more than an attack on a single person.
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COX: This is certainly about the -- the tragic death assassination, political assassination of -- of Charlie Kirk. But it is also much bigger
than an attack on an individual. It is an attack on all of us. It is an attack on the American experiment. It is an attack on our ideals.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN senior law enforcement analyst Charles Ramsey knows all about high-profile investigations. He's led or participated in several of
them, including the 2002 Washington, D.C. sniper attacks probe. And he joins us now.
You have been covering this with us all day today. You've been listening into that press conference earlier where we had the identification of the
suspect, Tyler Robinson.
And we learned that it was actually his father who identified him from the photos that released to the public by the FBI yesterday. And after seeing
those photos, he reportedly called a pastor, who's a family friend who then informed local authorities and then he was eventually brought in to -- to
be arrested and to the police.
He said that he had been exhibiting some frustrations with Charlie Kirk's political views, in particular over the -- the recent days and weeks. And
he knew, obviously, and told his family about this event at the university.
Charging documents, we know, will be filed within the next few days, likely next week, we heard from the governor.
What stood out to you from all the information that was released? And what questions do you still have at this point?
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CHARLES RAMSEY, CNN SENIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, I mean, quite a bit stood out, but the most important thing is just being able to see how
important it is for law enforcement to get pictures and other information out to the public as soon as you can, if you do not have an idea of who's
responsible for the crime.
I mean, this would still be unsolved had they not put those photographs out and given family members an opportunity to see them and say, wait a minute,
this is -- this is my own son. And then, of course, confront him with that information. So that was incredibly important.
As far as other things and other questions, there'll be a lot of questions I imagined they'll be answered when the actual charges are filed.
But we have a lot of information right now that we've gotten since this occurred in terms of the -- the -- the weapon, the way in which he dressed,
he changed clothes, the planning that went into this attack, the messages that he provided to his roommate back and forth, which pretty much laid out
his intent to actually commit the crime.
So there's a lot of information from this press conference that we got. And I think we're only going to get more as time goes on.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. It's -- it's important that you brought up the roommate because investigators interviewed his roommate who then showed them several
discord messages that allegedly referenced details of the shooting.
Utah governor said that the -- the messages mentioned retrieving a rifle at a drop point, leaving it in a bush and leaving the rifle wrapped in a
towel. And then the messages also included references to engraved bullets and a scope on the rifle.
What do you make of the messages that -- that were on those bullets and the -- the fact that phrases like "Hey, fascist, catch." was on one of them.
And "If you read this, you are gay," LAMO (ph)."
That's not necessarily that significant our experts were telling us earlier in terms of prosecution, in terms of a motive here. But any additional
evidence is -- is clearly important as well in terms of understanding that motive. What was your reaction when you heard that?
RAMSEY: Well, I mean, at this point, what the investigators are doing now, along with the prosecutors, is building as stronger case as they possibly
can because they have to still prove intent.
Now, this individual, whether or not he's cooperating with police, allegedly he confessed his crime to his father. That's a good piece of
information, but I don't know what he's doing in terms of any kind of formal interrogation.
So they're still interviewing witnesses. They're still certainly going to be spending a lot of time with that roommate, executing search warrants,
getting forensic evidence from the scene. All these things will come together to create this strong case that is actually needed.
Now, whether or not the roommate had advanced knowledge and it's starting to sound like he did. And whether or not that's going to lead to any kind
of criminal charges remains to be seen. I know the governor said that no, there was no one else going to be charged, but as more and more information
comes out, prosecutors may actually decide to go in that direction.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. That stood out to me as well. The governor saying that -- that he acted alone, but then it does appear unless they weren't revealing
everything that they know to the public at this point that there is likely more questioning that needs to be done specifically with that roommate
about what he knew and when.
Charles Ramsey, thank you so much for your expertise. Really appreciate it.
RAMSEY: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: And coming up for us.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think people are going to become a lot more radical. I think that goes without saying.
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GOLODRYGA: Young conservatives react to the Charlie Kirk killing and we look at Kirk's impact on the youth vote in the United States.
Plus.
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ERIKA KIRK, WIFE OF CHARLIE KIRK: My husband, Charlie Kirk, is a force.
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GOLODRYGA: Who is Erika Kirk? We take a closer look at the relationship between Charlie and his wife, who President Trump calls absolutely
devastated by the death of her husband.
Also ahead, the day's other news, including Qatar's Prime Minister in Washington, D.C., making a diplomatic push for more U.S. pressure on Israel
after Tuesday's deadly strike in Doha.
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RYAN LEONARD, YOUNG CONSERVATIVE: Some -- some of my closest friends in my life, I met at these events.
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GOLODRYGA: Short time ago during a press conference on the investigation, Utah's governor took a moment to highlight how Kirk had reached young
voters.
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COX: I need to talk to the young people in our state, in my state, and -- and all across the country. As President Trump reminded me, he said, you
know who -- who really loved Charlie? The youths. He's right.
Young people loved Charlie. And young people hated Charlie. And Charlie went into those places anyway.
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GOLODRYGA: With more on how Charlie Kirk has impacted the youth vote in America, here is CNN's chief data analyst Harry Enten.
So, Harry, what more do we know about the youth vote, which historically had been something that candidates from both parties not ignored, but
really didn't focus on as much because they -- they weren't -- they didn't view as committed to turn out as some older demographics.
But -- but Charlie Kirk really honed in on the youth vote, and that proved to be beneficial for Donald Trump.
HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Yes. I mean if Charlie Kirk's life mission was to bring younger voters over to the conservative side, I would
say that he did a very, very good job.
What are we talking about? Well, let's take a look first at all those 18 to 24 year olds who voted for Donald Trump.
Look, in 2016, he only got 34 percent of that vote. In 2020, he only got 31 percent of that vote. But look in the last election, Donald Trump, get
this, got 43 percent of 18 to 24 year olds. It was in fact the best performance when looking at the margin between Democrats and Republicans of
any Republican nominee for president this century, in the entire 21st century.
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But let's dig into the numbers a little bit deeper. Let's look at 18 to 24 year old males. What do we see here? OK, age 18 to 24 year old males, the
presidential margin. You go back to 2016. Hillary Clinton won that vote by 11 points. Joe Biden won that vote by 20 points.
Look at what Donald Trump though did in 2024. He actually won males 18 to 24 year olds, won it by three points. He is in fact the only Republican
nominee for president this entire century that actually won 18 to 24 year old males.
Now, of course, 18 to 24-year-old generation Z, differ in a lot of ways from their older generations, right? And one of the ways they differ
significantly is the way in which they consume news, their media consumption.
And I think this really just puts it all in perspective where Gen Z prefers to get its news. It's not on television. It's not on programs like this.
It's only eight percent.
Look at digital though. Look at digital socials, podcasts, et cetera. Eighty-six percent of generation Z prefer to -- prefer to get their news
through digital. And Charlie Kirk understood this better than anybody else. And of course he had a very, very successful podcast.
Look at this. OK. The Charlie Kirk show podcast ranking. Get this, Bianna. It was in the top 10 in news in the last quarter. So Charlie Cook --
Charlie Kirk understood where to get young voters. He made it his life's mission to do so. They became considerably more conservative.
And I think part of the reason that they came over to the Republican side was because of efforts such as Charlie Kirk's. And I could say that he did
quite successfully bring a lot of younger folks over to the conservative side in ways that I think folks like myself didn't really think that were
possible based upon the last few election cycles.
GOLODRYGA: Right. And he was one of those advising President Trump to bypass the traditional media outlets in terms of interviews and outreach
and spend more time engaging with voters and younger voters in particular on a number of these podcasts as well.
It may have seemed to be a risky move at the time, but now it clearly proved to be a successful decision.
Harry Enten, thank you.
ENTEN: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: And time now for "The Exchange." Let's continue the conversation about the youth vote in America. Joining me now our CNN political
strategist, Shermichael Singleton, who was a Republican strategist, and Antjuan Seawright, who is a democratic strategist. Welcome both of you.
Shermichael, let me start with you and pick up where we left off there with Harry. Just how pivotal and central was Charlie Kirk to -- to the youth
vote here, the conservative youth movement on college campuses across the country in general.
And, yes, we heard that donors say they're going to redouble their investments now in this movement and in the organization. But without
Charlie Kirk as the leader, what happens next?
SHERMICHAEL SINGLETON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I mean, it's fascinating. You think about Turning Point USA, and I knew Charlie about seven years,
give or take. And the size of Turning Point USA's budget sometimes rivaled that of the RNC's budget. You're talking about the organization that
represents the entire Republican Party nationally, number one.
Number two, the Republican Party, I mean, I've been involved in Republican politics, going all the way back to middle school, literally starting a
teenage Republican society, which is a thing. And the party has always struggled with wanting to and trying to engage with younger voters, in part
because of some of our cultural dispositions were just viewed as too conservative for people my age at the time.
Antjuan knows -- knows is very well. Democrats really had a lock on younger voters. I think you began to see a shift with Trump's first term,
particularly among men. You saw Harry Enten talk about that four percent increase that Donald Trump received this time around. The highest of any
Republican in this century.
And I would honestly attribute that to young men in general, attribute that to Charlie Kirk and his ability to recognize that the messaging from our
friends on the other side was not palatable, what many young men often wanted to hear is today's economics or masculinity generally speaking. And
so he spoke to those things, I think, in a very unique way that over time got many of those men to move over.
Now, to answer the final part of your question, what happens now that Charlie Kirk is gone despite the donors? I don't know. And that's a
question that I have been texting with a lot of my friends who are Republican strategists trying to figure out how do we continue those
engagements efforts. And no one really has an answer to that.
GOLODRYGA: Right. Because whether or not you agreed with his views or politics, you couldn't deny how charismatic he was and how effective he was
in speaking directly to voters and those who were opposed to him, who -- who sat on the other side of the aisle in terms of the constant debates
that he seemed to revel in.
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Let me turn to you, Antjuan, and talk about the points that you have made about needing a Turning Point's type of leader, like Charlie Kirk, for the
left, and how effective he proved to be for young, disenfranchised, conservative voters, particularly men.
And the need for that, the vacuum there is, for that type of leadership and voice for the left.
ANTJUAN SEAWRIGHT, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, (TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES)
GOLODRYGA: I think we may be having some technical issues with your -- is that -- control room, is that just me or is that Antjuan's? OK. OK.
Shermichael, let me pick back up with you. Antjuan, we're going to try to - - to fix your -- your audio there.
To -- to your point, though, about how and in Ben Shapiro, I heard in an interview, touched on this as well, Charlie Kirk essentially turned Turning
Point into the new RNC, that the RNC over the past few years, according to -- to Ben Shapiro's interpretation, had really lost a lot of its clout and
-- and -- and basically gave that to Turning Point, and Charlie Kirk's on opening there. Would you agree with that?
And in -- in terms of now the next generation of leadership, what do they do with that power?
SINGLETON: No, I -- I agree 100 percent. I actually just spoke with Ben. I want to say yesterday or two days ago. And I think he's 100 percent
correct. The -- the RNC has ceded maybe this past decade, a lot of our ability to engage with voters at the grassroots level to external
organizations.
Now, this was not the precedent prior to President Trump. However, in the first term, and I was a part of the first administration when I worked with
Dr. Carson (ph), when he endorsed the president. I was a part of that campaign on the communication side of things. And it was very, very
different the way that Trump campaign wanted to engage with voters, and they wanted to control that internally versus ceding that to the RNC, which
is typically what -- what previous Republican candidates and nominees and part I had done in the past. They would rely heavily on the national party
to engage and target voters at the behest of their campaign, obviously with the goal of winning. That has completely flipped upside down.
And so with that in mind, it really is going to be fascinating next year with midterms. President Trump isn't on the ballot. Charlie is now
deceased. I'm curious to see who picks up that mantle to continue engagement with young voters, particularly men, as effectively as Charlie
was able to do in midterms.
Then you're also thinking about 2028 and the potential gaps there. And so this does present a temporary reset for my side, but I think a lot of
people are going to be quickly trying to figure out who can be that next great visionary and -- and oratory and strategic mind, if you will, to
really engage and pick up the mantle that -- that Charlie was really carrying.
And -- and as you heard from President Trump, he thought that Charlie could one day even run for president. And I got to tell you, I've known him a
long time. Again, you may not like his politics, but he was incredibly bright in terms of being a political tactician and knowing what to say,
where to engage and how to engage with certain pockets of men in the country and the data proves that.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And the data proves that also in terms of party registration, which has been a real alarm for Democrats saying that we've
seen a drop in democratic registration.
I believe we have Antjuan back. So, Antjuan, if we can weave that into the question I'd asked you prior about what you said the Democratic Party needs
in terms of leadership, in terms of strategy on the policies that it supports through someone as creative and as articulate and I guess
aggressively pushing for younger votes the way that Charlie was with conservatives.
SEAWRIGHT: Well, Charlie was able to be a face and a voice for a constituency that is a must, not a plus in any given election. He was able
to tap into the fact that many young people felt -- felt that there was some disconnected tissue between them, politicians and government.
And so he was able to wrap those things up and create a sense of a movement that generated success for the Republican Party, both in the short-term, at
least in the last election.
I think there's a lesson from my party in that is that we have to treat every voter, and particularly younger voters as an investment, not an
expense, number one.
Number two, we have to show up where they are, listen more than we talk and not talk at people but talk with people.
Because again, whether you agree with Charlie Kirk on his politics or not, he had the courage and the tenacity to show up in unconventional spaces to
have unconventional conversations. And there's a lesson to be learned from that.
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Now, with that being said, where I disagree with Charlie, or have disagreed with him on the whole in the past, how we go about having those dialogues
and how we do not have to tap into the most extreme viewpoints of any side of the issue in order to glean folks to our side or to make them come in
line to where we ultimately want them to be from a voter standpoint.
But for every young voter in this country, I think both parties have to do three things. They have to do registration, mobilization, motivation, and
then participation. It just so happened in the last election, Republicans were able to do that better than us. It does not mean they have a lock on
it. It just means that my party has work to do.
GOLODRYGA: Well, both parties, the entire country, I would say, we all have work to do in lowering the temperature as well. And that was something that
I thought the governor articulated quite well and emotionally when he talked about the need to just lower the temperature, talk to each other.
The role of social media in his words as a cancer, I think so many people would agree with what he just said. And understandably, there is a lot of
anger. There's a desire, I think, initially, for retribution, for going after whoever did this. The blame on social media was insane, I have to
say, in the hours after the assassination.
Antjuan, what is the message for not only members of your own party, but I think for the country right now, from your perspective, in terms of some of
the best ways and most effective ways of doing just that?
SEAWRIGHT: Well, we have to borrow a lesson from one of my favorite songs by Michael Jackson, and let's start with the person in the mirror. And our
leaders must lead by example.
I don't think it's a good idea for the President of the United States or anyone at the precinct level to be a loud voice on any given platform,
inciting or even hinting or flirting at violence of any kind, or even playing the blame game, particularly when we do not have all the facts to
digest or inhale.
So I think it starts with our leaders. I think they must lead by example. But us as individuals, I think we have to learn how to yell in the places
we agree and whisper in we -- in the places we disagree.
I think the marketplace of ideas is what the American political experiment has been always about. And I think we have to get back to the basics and
learn how to get along with each other, even if we do not see the camera the same way.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. I think those are all really important points. And also worth noting the governor's stating how much misinformation and
disinformation had been propagating over the last 48 hours as well online, especially.
Shermichael Singleton, Antjuan Seawright. Thank you so much. We need more conversations like this one.
SINGLETON: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: We'll be right back.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Breaking news into CNN. NATO has launched an operation in response to the Russian drone incursion into Polish airspace.
It's called "Eastern Sentry," and it will involve assets from multiple NATO nations.
Poland asked for NATO's assistance after reporting 19 breaches of its airspace by Russian drones on Wednesday. NATO fighter jets downed multiple
Russian drones that violated Polish airspace during an attack on Ukraine.
We'll have much more on what this NATO operation will involve in the coming hours.
And we are learning about a stabbing attack outside of Jerusalem that wounded two people, one of them seriously. Police say the victims were
guests of a hotel at a kibbutz, and according to reports, a suspect is a Palestinian employee.
Hamas praised the attack, but is not claiming responsibility.
In the meantime, Israel is escalating its attacks on Gaza City ahead of a planned takeover, as thousands of terrified civilians try to escape the
intensified bombardment.
Local health authorities report at least 40 people were killed in Gaza on Friday alone, most of them in Gaza City. The Gaza Civil Defense says more
than 50,000 Palestinians have been left homeless over the past week, as the IDF is stepping up its attacks and issuing orders for immediate evacuation.
And a CNN analysis has found the Israeli military has destroyed or damaged close to 2,000 buildings in and around Gaza City in the last several weeks.
Jeremy Diamond has this report.
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JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is Gaza from above. In early August, CNN joined the Jordanian military on a cargo
flight, delivering aid to starving Palestinians. The scale of the destruction, hard to grasp.
And yet Gaza City has been one of the areas least scarred by Israel's two- year war. The Zaytun neighborhood, for example, was largely still intact, as also seen in this satellite imagery at the time.
One month later, the area has been leveled. Four schools, dozens of businesses and hundreds of homes destroyed.
This is the damage wrought by the opening moves of Israel's invasion of Gaza City, which the government announced days after CNN flew over the
strip.
The initial assault has also pummeled Jabalia on the northern outskirts of the city, where more than 750 buildings have been destroyed.
All told, in the months since approving their plan to invade Gaza City, Israel has damaged or destroyed more than 1,800 buildings, according to a
CNN analysis of satellite imagery.
Tent camps at Gaza City's perimeter emptied out, forcing displaced Palestinians to be displaced once again into ever-more crowded tent cities
as the threat of an Israeli invasion looms.
Many more began to flee on Tuesday after the Israeli military ordered all Palestinians to leave Gaza City ahead of a major expanded offensive.
Israel's assault continues as intended, striking multiple high-rise buildings that the military says are used by Hamas as terrorist
infrastructure without providing evidence.
But on the ground, thousands of Palestinians sheltering around them are suffering.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We were having a bite to eat underneath the building, until suddenly, we saw people fleeing from inside.
No one warned us or told us to take our belongings. We only carried our children and sat on the adjacent street.
A little while later, they struck the building. We came back to find that everything was gone. There's nothing left.
DIAMOND: These large-scale demolitions of entire neighborhoods in Gaza rendering already fragile lives unlivable, and offering a glimpse into the
ruin that may lie ahead.
Jeremy Diamond, CNN, Jerusalem.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, you're looking at live pictures of a makeshift memorial outside Charlie Kirk's organization, Turning Point, in Phoenix, Arizona.
People have been paying their respects to the conservative fire brand who was assassinated on Wednesday. Kirk and his family lived in Arizona.
The latest on the investigation into his murder, the suspect 22-year-old Tyler Robinson is in custody. Sources telling CNN that he is not speaking
to investigators. And he is being held without bail.
Charlie Kirk's casket is now in Arizona. Vice President J.D. Vance and his wife escorted Kirk's remains, as well as his widow and their two young
children from Utah back to Phoenix.
Usha Vance was seen holding hands with Erika Kirk as they stepped off Air Force Two on Thursday.
President Trump says that he plans to attend the funeral, saying Kirk's wife is absolutely devastated. Erika Kirk is a former Miss Arizona and
hosts a faith-based podcast.
CNN's Sunlen Serfaty has more.
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CHARLIE KIRK, CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST: The beautiful, legendary Erika.
E. KIRK: I love you so much.
C. KIRK: I love you.
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For 36-year-old Erika Kirk --
E. KIRK: I literally won the jackpot with my husband.
C. KIRK: Vice versa.
SERFATY (voice-over): Her marriage to 31-year-old Charlie Kirk became the center of her life, with much of it playing out in public.
E. KIRK: I love you.
C. KIRK: I love you, too.
SERFATY (voice-over): Second only, she says, to her first priority, her faith.
E. KIRK: Now more than ever, your faith has to be so on fire.
SERFATY (voice-over): The two have been married for four years, getting engaged two years after their first meeting.
E. KIRK: Do you think that I had an issue understanding where Charlie stood when he looked at me across Bill's Burgers table and said, I'm not going to
hire you, I'm going to date you.
SERFATY (voice-over): They went on to have two kids, a one-year-old boy and a three-year-old girl.
E. KIRK: Motherhood is not a pause. It's a launch pad.
SERFATY (voice-over): She's committed herself to homeschooling their kids while supporting him.
E. KIRK: I love submitting to Charlie because he's a phenomenal leader. And the way that he loves me like melts me to want to be able to help. How can
I help you?
SERFATY (voice-over): By his side, as he traveled the country, but also speaking out herself.
E. KIRK: I want you guys to be able to just live such an abundant, joy- filled life.
That you know how to battle in the trenches of this world and the foxholes of this culture.
SERFATY (voice-over): Not just espousing his political beliefs --
E. KIRK: My husband, Charlie Kirk, is a force.
SERFATY (voice-over): -- but complementing his with what she says are her more conservative values.
C. KIRK: I am a moderate. Compared to Erika. Erika is very conservative and yes --
E. KIRK: I was raised well.
SERFATY (voice-over): Raised in Scottsdale, Arizona by her mother, her parents divorced when she was young. Her grandfather was an immigrant from
Sweden.
She studied political science in college and is working on her doctorate in Christian leadership and biblical studies. She was briefly an NCAA women's
basketball player.
E. KIRK: Everyone thought I was a little boy because I wore Jordan and all these different types of athletic clothes.
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SERFATY (voice-over): Crowned Miss Arizona in 2012.
E. KIRK: I love to work out. I love to spend time with my family. I love to play with my dogs.
SERFATY: She has a nonprofit.
E. KIRK: Internationally, we support and sustain several orphanages throughout Europe.
SERFATY (voice-over): A devotional podcast and a Christian clothing company.
E. KIRK: I guess you could say I'm a social entrepreneur where I find little pockets within a culture that I like to disrupt.
SERFATY (voice-over): Her partnership in life and politics with Kirk often tinged with concern for their well-being, something she mentioned during
her most recent podcast.
E. KIRK: You know my husband is on college campuses getting screamed at by college kids as he's trying to share with them the truth. And he is so
calm.
Would I be calm? No, I wouldn't. I barely go to those only because I don't trust myself not climbing over the table and like attacking someone in the
crowd because I'm very protective of my husband.
SERFATY (voice-over): She acknowledged his appearances made them vulnerable. But in conversation with her husband, committed to stay their
chosen course together.
E. KIRK: Do I get hate? Bring it on.
C. KIRK: Exactly.
E. KIRK: I'll have a -- I'll have a -- a -- a velvet steel spine by the end of -- end of my life. So bring it on. I have nothing to fear.
SERFATY: Erika was with her kids at Wednesday's event when her husband was killed. Her last post on social media, just hours before he passed away,
was a bible verse which said, "God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble."
Sunlen Serfaty, CNN, Washington.
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GOLODRYGA: And our thoughts are with Erika and their two young children.
Well, that does it for "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga. Thanks so much for watching. I'll be back with the news headlines in just a moment.
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