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Trump Addresses World Leaders At U.N. General Assembly; Hong Kong And Mainland China Brace For Super Typhoon Ragasa; Kimmel Returns After ABC/Disney Face Protests; Trump Links Tylenol With Autism Despite Evidence It's Safe; Macron Gets Caught In New York Traffic Jam; Aired 12-1p ET
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CHRISTINA MACFARLANE, CNN ANCHOR: Donald Trump doesn't like the United Nations and he isn't shy about it. The second hour of "One World" starts
right now.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: What is the purpose of the United Nations? The U.N. has such tremendous potential.
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MACFARLANE: He says he's ended multiple wars and he did it all without the U.N.'s help. Donald Trump rips into the very body he's addressing.
Also head, tracking Typhoon Ragasa. Dramatic water rescues and where the storm is heading next.
And later.
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SASKYA VANDOORNE, CNN PARIS BUREAU CHIEF: Emmanuel Macron suddenly found himself in a very awkward, very New York situation.
EMMANUEL MACRON, FRENCH PRESIDENT: I'm sorry. I'm the president. I'm really sorry.
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MACFARLANE: Starts spreading the news. New York City traffic is a headache for everyone, even if you're the president of France.
Live from London, I'm Christina Macfarlane. You're watching the second hour of "One World."
A short time ago, the U.S. president wrapped up his first speech to the United Nations General Assembly of his second term with a defiant, yet very
familiar message.
Donald Trump criticized the U.N. for allowing what he called uncontrolled migration. He also accused the global body of funding and assaults on
Western countries and its borders and at times he appeared to veer off script.
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TRUMP: All I got from the United Nations was an escalator that on the way up stopped right in the middle. If the first lady was in great shape, she
would have fallen, but she's in great shape. We're both in good shape, we both stood. And then a teleprompter that didn't work.
This is -- these are the two things I got from the United Nations, a bad escalator and a bad teleprompter.
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MACFARLANE: Well, Trump's speech comes at a particularly volatile moment in history with two wars raging in Gaza and Ukraine. He touted what he calls
his foreign policy achievements claiming to have saved millions of lives through peacemaking efforts.
And here's how the president describes the global climate crisis.
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TRUMP: It's the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world, in my opinion. Climate change, no matter what happens, you're involved in that.
No more global warming, no more global cooling. All of these predictions made by the United Nations and many others, often for bad reasons, were
wrong.
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MACFARLANE: Trump is set to hold a series of one-on-one meetings with world leaders on the sidelines, including his counterparts in Ukraine and
Argentina.
Well, Nic Robertson is joining me now.
To break down Mr. Trump's speech, which was, I believe, Nick almost what, an hour in length. But given the length of that speech, did we actually
hear much new from the president? Or were you somewhat surprised, really, by how light on detail he seemed to be on some of the -- the key topics,
you know, that the UNGA here to discuss, namingly -- namely Gaza and Ukraine?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes. He didn't really seem to lay much out on that. And that's interesting because he does have
that -- this meeting coming up with a group of Arab leaders.
And so, potentially, he's not shutting doors to -- to exploring ideas. With them, although I think we're very clear he's opposed to anyone who's
recognizing a Palestinian state, because he said that rewards Gaza.
I was interested that he sort of circled back on something he's said before, implying that China created the COVID vaccine, COVID rather,
pandemic by letting lab science research escape out of the lab. But then went on to say, and this is something he may have spoken about previously,
but he made a point of it here that the United States would be leading a biological weapons enforcement body or team. We didn't get a lot of flesh
on the bones there.
But that was something that we haven't heard him speak a lot about publicly. But -- but a lot of the remainder, particularly doubling down on
his dislike of -- of -- of green energies, of pushing his own energy supplies, oil and gas, you know, inviting anyone to buy them from him but
saying that green energy supplies cost more than it was a hoax, that climate change was a hoax, really doubling down.
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And -- and when you think that that particular topic has been a core topic for the U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, since he --since he became
U.N. Secretary-General, even before, this has been one of his key, key themes at speeches.
Here was Donald Trump in the Secretary-General's house, if you will, trashing what he stands for and what he tries to uphold. It was
confrontational, yes.
MACFARLANE: Certainly was. Nic, thank you.
For more on this, I'm joined now by CNN political and national security analyst David Sanger. He's also author of "New Cold Wars: China's Rise,
Russia's Invasion, and America's Struggle to Defend the West."
Great to see you again, David. I'm sure you were watching all 57 minutes or whatever it was of this speech.
DAVID SANGER, CNN POLITICAL AND NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Yes.
MACFARLANE: And, you know, as we were talking there, David, it didn't appear to be a real shift in tone or commitment from Donald Trump. He owned
two of the dominating issues of this summit, Ukraine and Gaza.
What was your overall impression of his speech? And what do you think Trump will be looking to achieve from this summit when it's quite clear, isn't
it, he has no love for the U.N.?
SANGER: Well, that was pretty clear. The U.N. is going through its 80th anniversary this year, a great, great moment to sort of reassess what it's
doing well, and more importantly, what it isn't doing.
And there was no discussion of the common purpose of what he thought the United States could do to bolster the U.N., help it do accomplish its
mission, even narrow its mission.
There was this list of complaints, as you heard from Nic. It was about immigration. It was about climate change, which he called the -- the -- the
greatest hoax. It was about his own role in settling disputes around the world, making it sound as if he was essentially doing on the side as sort
of a hobby what the United Nations should be doing by itself.
But there was no new ideas on Gaza, no commitment, which he had made just a few weeks ago to more American aid there or thoughts about what you could
do, if not, an independent Palestinian state, as many of his allies have embraced.
And on Russia, astoundingly to me, you know, here we are less than a week from the Russian incursions into Poland, Romania, of course, those flights
over Estonia, and no warning to the Russians about the defense of NATO territory.
And basically, after he said he would know after Anchorage whether he was going to go full in to help the Ukrainians, no indication he was going to
go do that either.
MACFARLANE: Yes. So, David, what do you think President Zelenskyy sitting there in that audience, we saw images of him, will make of all of this?
SANGER: Yes.
MACFARLANE: Because, you know, this, as you say, this UNGA comes at a time when Vladimir Putin is testing NATO along with Ukraine like never before.
And there was a feeling perhaps that Donald Trump, we might see him step up in this moment as leader and defender. But again, we didn't seem to hear
anything new.
SANGER: If you were President Zelenskyy, I think he -- he would have been stealing himself for his meeting later today with President Trump. Because
five or nearly six weeks after the Anchorage, Alaska meeting, what's clear is there is no peace process underway, and President Trump is likely to go
back to the statements he's made in recent days that Mr. Zelenskyy has to make a deal, which basically means a swap of peace for land, give up chunks
of his country. But without necessarily any discussion of the security assurances to make sure that Russia stops at that point.
All we've been hearing from the Europeans since Alaska is focus on the security assurances so that what happened in Ukraine doesn't spread
elsewhere in Europe. There was no discussion of that topic in the president's comments.
MACFARLANE: We also know that President Trump, I think, will have meetings with Arab leaders today at the UNGN.
Where do you expect the issue of Palestinian statehood to go now, especially given that we're seeing threats from Israeli ministers to annex
the West Bank, and given it is very clear from President Trump's comments today that Benjamin Netanyahu still has the green light, still has his
backing?
And certainly did get that sense. You know, the United States and Israel find themselves, I think, fairly well isolated that yesterday's meeting on
the Palestinian statehood issue, there were about 140 members of the U.N. attending. There were only, what, 180 or 190 member states of the U.N.
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So, the U.S., I think, is it's incumbent on them to come up with an idea or ideas that would counter this movement toward recognizing a state, even
though we have no idea where the boundaries of the state are, how it would be governed, how it would be financed.
So, there are lots of ways for the president to use some ingenious diplomacy to counter this concept with an alternative concept. We didn't
hear one. Now maybe he will offer some in the closed door presence there.
But I think the big message he may be getting is that the Abraham Accords, the -- the recognition of Israel by some of these Arab states, that was one
of the greatest accomplishments of Mr. Trump's first term, is now in jeopardy.
MACFARLANE: Yes. And -- and despite that, it was something he touted once again, during the speech here today.
David, always great to hear your thoughts and have your analysis. Thank you.
SANGER: Great -- great to be with you.
MACFARLANE: Turning now to Asia, where tens of millions of people in southern China are bracing for the arrival of Super Typhoon Ragasa.
Forecasters say it's expected to pass south of Hong Kong, Macau, Shenzhen, and Guangzhou, before making landfall in Mainland China's Guangdong
province.
Authorities have ordered schools and businesses to close across the region, and flights are canceled as the storm approaches.
Earlier, the typhoon caused a barrier lake to breach in Taiwan, causing this destruction in the town of Hualien.
And on Monday, the powerful storm made landfall in the Philippines, damaging homes, cutting off roads and triggering landslides, like the one
you can see here.
CNN meteorologist Derek Van Dam is following all of this for us. So tell us what comes next, Derek. What do we know?
DEREK VAN DAM, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, Christina, history's certainly proving itself with this storm that we need to take it seriously, as it's
already caused this level of destruction you see on your T.V. screens.
Right now, it's about 150 miles to the south and east of Hong Kong, just under 200 kilometers to the southeast. Well-defined eye with this
equivalent category for typhoon. So, this storm is well-defined. And it's moving at quite a trajectory to the west.
But the outer rain bands are starting to reach Hong Kong. And again, if history wants to prove it's anything, that this is a significant rainmaker
and a powerful storm surge maker, as well as wind creator, right?
So we look back at Taiwan. Some of the rainfall totals here are seriously impressive. Over the past 48 hours, we have had over 800 millimeters of
rain in some locations that caused this barrier lake to burst its dam.
And just look at the result there, just people running on the side. And you can see some of the debris in the background as that water and that torrent
of debris rushed down the mountainside.
So, where is this storm going? Typhoon Ragasa, known locally in the Philippines as Nando, well west of the Philippines now. But it is still
moving in that westerly direction.
It is weakening slightly, but it will be a formidable typhoon by the time it makes its landfall in the next 24 hours across the Guangdong Province in
southeast China.
Notice the official forecast track south of Hong Kong, south of Macau. But the outer rain bands will certainly be lashing this area, if not already
doing so. This is a very densely populated part of the world. So millions of people will be continuing to be impacted by the storm.
Here's Hong Kong, the radar, actually. So the outer rain bands now just starting to enter the city. So we'll see conditions deteriorate there, even
though the most powerful part of the typhoon, the core, the eye, stays to the south of the actual city.
These are current conditions. Very interesting to see. Hong Kong International Airport gusting to 81 kilometers per hour. That is why
flights have been diverted and canceled from that particular location.
Macau International gusting at 57 miles per hour. Hong Kong meteorological agency hoisting a signal eight. This is what they can expect. Gust over 180
kilometers per hour. You need to prepare -- complete all those preparations that you've already put in place.
Some the highest signals here are nine and 10. So we'll see if we get to those as we go forward in time. So, the forecast wind gust will, again,
bring that 180 kilometer gust just south of Hong Kong as it's moving a westerly direction. You can see the time frame here heading into Thursday.
The storm dissipates as it loses its energy source, which, of course, is the ocean here, but not produce -- before producing a significant amount of
rain.
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I do anticipate additional flooding across this region, including Hong Kong, Macau, Shenzhen, and other surrounding locations as the storm makes
landfall.
Christina.
MACFARLANE: Yes. And we will continue to track it and keep an eye on it. Derek, we appreciate it. Thank you.
VAN DAM: You got it.
MACFARLANE: All right. Still to come on "One World."
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ANGELINA JOLIE, AMERICAN ACTRESS: I love my country, and -- but I don't, at this time, recognize my country.
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MACFARLANE: Blistering comments from an Oscar winner triggered by a national debate on free speech in America. That's ahead.
What will Jimmy say? The late-night host show returns tonight. And after the break, we'll take a look at whether he'll calm the controversy or start
a new one.
Plus.
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TRUMP: I want to say it like it is. Don't take Tylenol. Don't take it.
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MACFARLANE: He's not a doctor, but President Trump's thoughts on pregnant women and Tylenol are pretty clear later this hour. We'll get the facts
from a doctor.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's not fair, and I really support the First Amendment right and our right to free speech. So, Jimmy Kimmel, thank you
very much.
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MACFARLANE: Late-night talk host, Jimmy Kimmel, expected to address the fallout from ABC pulling his show off the air when he returns to some
American T.V.s tonight, but it's not clear what he will say.
Last week's suspension came after his comments about conservative activist Charlie Kirk's murder, as well as intense pressure from a Trump appointment
at the FCC Brendan Carr.
The controversy has ignited a national debate on free speech and protests against both ABC and its parent company, Disney.
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STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE LATE SHOW": Here's why Disney folded. After Kimmel was suspended, Google searches for cancel Disney Plus and cancel
Hulu spiked. So, Disney put Kimmel back on because you, the American people, were upset, OK?
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MACFARLANE: Well, joining us now is our entertainment correspondent, Elizabeth Wagmeister, live from L.A. And Elizabeth, I think this is going
to be the most viewed late-night TV stand-up show in history. The big question though is, what is Jimmy Kimmel going to say? Do we know what to
expect?
ELIZABETH WAGMEISTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I agree with you. And it is quite ironic because you have critics on the right who were
calling for Jimmy Kimmel live to be canceled and to never see him again, but now in turn what we may get is actually one of the biggest platforms
and the biggest ratings for one of President Trump's loudest critics. So, yes, all eyes will be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight.
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Now, I have some indication of what he may say in his monologue. I do have a source who tells me that he absolutely is going to address the
controversy, which really comes as no surprise. It would be hard to imagine that he wouldn't address the controversy.
Now, I have also been told that ABC and Disney does not plan to censor him in any way. In fact, I had a source tell me last week that Jimmy Kimmel has
really never been censored on his show.
And if you watch his show, you know that he has been free to say what he wants, about politics, about his beliefs on President Trump. And, of
course, that, you know, really hit a -- a big moment last week when he made those controversial comments about Charlie Kirk's murder.
But other than that, again, if you watch his show, he has really said what he wants to say. So, I think that is what we should expect tonight. It is
going to be Jimmy Kimmel in his finest form with what he does, which is he says what he wants. And, of course, he is very well aware of the climate
right now. And I am sure that Disney, in some ways, is holding their breath, but also they are standing behind him.
And I was always told from my sources from the get-go that this was never a cancellation. Jimmy Kimmel was never fired that they always planned to find
a path forward to bring him back. They just took the show off the air to take down the temperature in a moment of extreme threats from the FCC.
MACFARLANE: Yes. Given that what you were saying, I mean, it does feel like the return is happening fairly quickly. And, you know, you have to wonder
what the sustained boycott efforts have had towards that, you know, the loss of revenue people kind of signing off, not watching, cancelling their
subscriptions. Do you think all of that has had an effect?
WAGMEISTER: I mean, I certainly don't think that that helped Disney's case, right? And I think as you heard Stephen Colbert say it right there, that
the people had spoken and you did have calls from many people saying, I'm canceling my Disney Plus subscription. I'm canceling my Hulu subscription.
But then you have to take a look at the other side, Christina, which is I have had my notifications full from people from both sides of the aisle.
And many people have said, yay, Disney, you canceled Jimmy Kimmel. I can't sign up fast enough.
Now, again, that wasn't a cancellation. Now you would imagine that some people on the right are even more upset with Disney that they are bringing
him back. But I think that this all factors in.
And yesterday, there was an open letter that was signed by more than 400 celebrities. The letter was organized by the ACLU. And I am talking the
biggest celebrities in the world. Everyone from Jennifer Aniston to Tom Hanks to Meryl Streep. And they never called out Disney, but they called
out government censorship. They said that nobody should be silenced and we stand with Jimmy Kimmel.
Now, at the time that that letter was published, I am told that the negotiations were already well underway, that Disney was already well on
their way to bringing Kimmel back.
But to your point, all of that pressure, not just from the public and from paying consumers, but also from the Hollywood community, the creative
community that Disney has to be in business with. Of course, that did not fall on deaf ears for the top executives over at Disney.
MACFARLANE: Yes. And we will wait to see if this calm things down or kicks them off again, as you say.
Elizabeth, appreciate it. Thank you.
Now, free speech also on the minds of another famous American, rare comments from actress Angelina Jolie while she was in Spain for a film this
weekend about state of America.
The Oscar winner and human rights activist was responding to a question about her fears as an artist and American.
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JOLIE: I love my country, and -- but I don't, at this time, recognize my country.
I've always lived internationally. I've always -- my -- my family's international. My -- my friends, my life, my worldview is equal, united,
international.
So anything, anywhere that divides or, of course, limits personal expressions and freedoms from anyone, I think, is very dangerous. And I
think these are such serious times that we have to be careful not to say things casually, so I'll be careful during a press conference, but to say
that, of course, like all of you and everyone watching, you know, these are very, very heavy times we're all living it together.
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MACFARLANE: Now, parents caring for autistic children react to claims by President Trump.
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CHRISTINA COLLURA, MOTHER OF AUTISTIC CHILD: And I'm literally shaking as I'm talking about it because it -- it's so scary to think that we're now
going to be creating a stigma against moms.
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MACFARLANE: The Trump administration's new steps to tackle autism and warnings from experts, coming up.
And Emmanuel Macron calls Donald Trump to talk about New York's traffic. We'll explain why, next.
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MACFARLANE: Welcome back to "One World." I'm Christina Macfarlane.
International health agencies and medical experts are criticizing the U.S. President's announcement, linking the use of a common painkiller while
pregnant with autism in children.
Donald Trump said Monday that women should limit the use of Tylenol, a brand name for acetaminophen, also known as most countries as paracetamol,
during pregnancy.
This despite decades of evidence that says the painkiller is safe.
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TRUMP: I just recommend strongly that you don't use Tylenol, because it's absolutely necessary. They -- I understand it's maybe 10 percent of the
women that are pregnant are, you know, would perhaps be forced to use it. And that would mean you just can't tough it out. No matter what you do, you
can't tough it out. So that's up to you and your doctor.
But there's a very strong recommendation. Maybe stronger from me than from the group, because they're waiting for certain studies. I don't -- I just
want to say -- I want to say it like it is. Don't take Tylenol. Don't take it.
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MACFARLANE: Well, later on, Dr. Mehmet Oz, who leads the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, doubled down on the President's message.
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DR. MEHMET OZ, U.S. CENTERS FOR MEDICARE AND MEDICAID SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR: We believe that especially heavy use of acetaminophen, and
this is based on data that was compiled by the Harvard School of Public Health just several weeks ago in an important publication that looked at 46
prior studies.
And it is true there have been some studies that have not shown a correlation, but there are many more that have shown a -- a concern.
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MACFARLANE: Well, here is what Dr. Sanjay Gupta has to say.
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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, understandable if people are confused by what they heard coming out of the White House
regarding Tylenol and autism. This is something, first of all, that is not new. There have been a lot of studies looking into this over the last
couple of decades, many of which we've reported on.
There has never been a cause-and-effect relationship established between Tylenol or acetaminophen, which is the active ingredient and autism just to
make that clear.
In fact, if you look at the specific language from the FDA that came out after that press conference, even there, they're not suggesting that people
stop taking Tylenol, especially for fevers during pregnancy because I think that's probably the most important point.
Keep in mind, when something is very ubiquitous, very common, you can associate it with just about anything. That's the paradox of ubiquity. As
one of the researchers said, in hot weather months, ice cream use goes up and violent crime goes up. Are those things cause-and-effect? No, but they
might be considered associated.
In fact, if you look at Tylenol use over the last couple of decades for pregnant women, its usage has come down a bit, even as autism rates have
gone up. Something to keep in mind.
Yet, there have been these signals of concerns about potential associations between Tylenol and autism. And that's why a particularly big study was
done. Came out of Sweden. It was over 25 years. They looked at two million children. About 10 percent of the moms had taken Tylenol during pregnancy.
They had babies. They had siblings as well in which they had not taken Tylenol during pregnancy.
And the bottom line is when they put all of that data together, they did not find any link between Tylenol and -- and autism. That's why you do
those sorts of big studies.
One thing again that came out was this idea that if a woman has a fever during pregnancy, how big a problem is that in and of itself? That gets
back to the association problem. Why was the woman taking Tylenol on the first place? Was it to treat a fever? Did that fever get caused by an
infection? Could the infection or the fever be really what's driving a potential association with autism?
Again, these are complicated studies. That's why you have to do them. Not treating a fever during pregnancy is a problem. It can be associated with
birth defects, it can be associated with early labor, it can be associated with a miscarriage and neurodevelopmental problems in and of itself.
So, the guidance has long been to women who have fevers during pregnancy or need to take something for pain. Take the -- the smallest dose for the
shortest amount of time. And I don't think that guidance is likely to change based on what we heard.
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MACFARLANE: Well, many parents of autistic children are reacting with surprise, anger and fear that they will be blamed.
Canada's CTV network's Adrian Ghobrial reports.
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ADRIAN GHOBRIAL, REPORTER, CTV NATIONAL NEWS (voice-over): When young Luca was just three years old, his mother, Christina Collura received
confirmation of what she already suspected.
COLLURA: My thought process automatically turned to not what he can't do, but what he can do.
GHOBRIAL (voice-over): The medical claim being made by the Trump administration has left her fuming.
COLLURA: And I'm literally shaking as I'm talking about it because it -- it's so scary to think that we're now going to be creating a stigma against
moms.
GHOBRIAL: What type of stigma do you believe a mother such as yourself could now be facing?
COLLURA: What did you do when you were pregnant to cause -- to cause -- and I can't even say it, cause your child to have autism?
GHOBRIAL (voice-over): Collura isn't alone.
ALINA CAMERON, PRESIDENT, ONTARIO AUTISM COALITION: When I was pregnant with my daughter who was on the spectrum, I didn't take any medication at
that time. So there was no Tylenol in the mix and, well, she's -- she's autistic.
GHOBRIAL (voice-over): Alina Cameron's daughter, Fiona, is 10 years old. Cameron is the president of the Ontario Autism Coalition. She's also an
epidemiologist.
CAMERON: There have been language coming out of the United States recently that is very troubling to -- to the -- the larger autism community here in
Canada.
GHOBRIAL (voice-over): This study released by the American Medical Association Journal, JAMA, investigated use of acetaminophen during
pregnancy and children's risk of autism, ADHD, and intellectual disability among nearly 2.5 million children in Sweden.
It found that, "Acetaminophen use during pregnancy was not associated with children's risk of autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability in sibling
controlled analyses."
DR. CHRISTOPHER LABOS, CARDIOLOGIST: The overwhelming consensus is that Tylenol is safe during pregnancy. It is probably the safer alternative.
Tylenol is probably safer than many of the other over-the-counter medications like Advil and ibuprofen.
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GHOBRIAL (voice-over): For Collura, she's trying to take the day's news from south of the border in (INAUDIBLE).
COLLURA: Our main focus should be on the supports and the therapies and supporting our children of all needs and abilities.
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MACFARLANE: Let's bring in Dr. Alex Shurling. She's an OB-GYN at the Women's Health of Augusta. Dr. Thank you so much for your time.
You know, at the best of times for pregnant women, there is a lot of fear and anxiety to deal with let alone when the president comes out and says
something like this.
I know you have an Instagram account called Babymommadoc. Can you please just give us the facts and give us the science and tell us what you are
saying to pregnant women right now about whether they should be using Tylenol.
DR. ALEX SHURLING, OB-GYN, WOMEN'S HEALTH OF AUGUSTA: Absolutely. Well, thank you, first, for having me.
Everything that we know at this point in time is that Tylenol is safe in pregnancy and is the safest option to treat both fevers and pain in
pregnancy.
Just because something maybe linked does not indicate causation and to put this fear into pregnant women's minds is a disservice to women.
MACFARLANE: I mean, how damaging is it as well? Because in the act of avoiding painkillers, it could do more harm than good. Could it not to a
developing baby and -- and a woman during pregnancy?
SHURLING: Absolutely. We know that acetaminophen can be safe to use in pregnancy. And avoiding using this in the instance of pain or in fever can
lead towards more problems in the pregnant patient.
For instance, we know that fevers can contribute to neural tube defects or towards preterm labor or issues in the end of pregnancies. Therefore, by
avoiding this, pregnant women can be causing even more problems.
MACFARLANE: I mean, there's concern here that President Trump's advice will be taken literally by pregnant women, but also new parents who are trying
to figure out vaccines for their newborns.
You know, those vaccines are there for a reason to prevent viral infections, serious viral infections like polio, measles, meningitis.
What advice do you have to parents who are, at this point, just totally confused about what they should do about vaccines?
SHURLING: There's certainly a lot of data out there that appears conflicting, but what we as the medical community know is that Tylenol and
vaccines have been proven.
Oh (TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES) you have talked to your own -- you can best support your family, your pregnancy and your child.
MACFARLANE: I hope you can still hear us, Dr. Alex, having a few audio issues. But I just wanted to ask as well, because --
SHURLING: Oh, yes.
MACFARLANE: -- there does appear to be an attempt here to place the blame on women for autism.
In the comments that President Trump made, he said, you know, if you can't take the pain or deal with the fever by toughing it out. I mean, the
insinuation is that women are to blame for this. I mean, how damaging is that?
SHURLING: It is so damaging. And again, it's putting women down. Women deserve pain control. Women deserve to be cared for in pregnancy because
mental health and the woman's health is what we need to raise a healthy human.
To put this blame on what they have been told to be as safe for all of these years, that the data continues to show it's safe.
Women -- we need (TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY) through their pain, through their pregnancy, so that we can grow and support these families throughout their
time.
MACFARLANE: Well, Dr. Shurling, we appreciate you joining us today. And as I said, you have an Instagram account that people can find at Babymommadoc
if they need good sound advice. Thank you so much.
MACFARLANE: And as we've been discussing this hour, the U.N. General Assembly is underway in New York City and it has led to gridlock on the
streets of New York. Even world leaders aren't immune to traffic jams and French President Emmanuel Macron took to walking the streets Monday evening
after he found himself stuck behind roadblocks for Donald Trump's motorcade.
CNN's Saskya Vandoorne explains.
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VANDOORNE: Traffic during the U.N. General Assembly can be brutal, even for presidents.
MACRON: If you don't see it, let me cross.
VANDOORNE: Emmanuel Macron suddenly found himself in a very awkward, very New York situation, stranded on the sidewalk.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry. Mr. president, I'm really sorry. It's just that everything's been frozen right now.
VANDOORNE: Why? Because President Donald Trump's motorcade had the street on lockdown.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's a motorcade coming right now. That's why. I'm sorry.
VANDOORNE: So Macron picked up the phone and called the man apparently responsible for the gridlock.
MACRON: Guess what? I'm waiting in the street because everything is frozen for you.
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VANDOORNE: Eventually, the barricades opened, but only for pedestrians. So the French president had to keep the call going while walking to the
embassy.
And if that wasn't unusual enough, a bystander grabbed the chance for a quick kiss with the French president.
GRAPHIC: No, no. it's OK, guys.
VANDOORNE: Saskya Vandoorne, CNN, Paris.
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MACFARLANE: Pretty relatable, isn't it?
Now he's more than just the science guy, Bill Nye, the beloved educator, author and television host, received Hollywood's most coveted honor on
Monday, his very own star on the iconic Walk of Fame.
Here's what Nye had to say on the current state of scientific endeavor in the U.S.
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BILL NYE, HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME HONOREE: Our democracy is proving to be quite fragile. Basic scientific research and public health policies and
protections are at risk. The Chinese National Space Administration will almost certainly beat the U.S. back to the moon.
But if we keep in mind that what goes on here in the U.S., what goes on here in Hollywood, affects everyone everywhere, we can work together to
inspire people everywhere and influence the course of history.
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MACFARLANE: Nye began start to his Boeing -- career as a Boeing engineer, but eventually quit. His hit '90s show "Bill Nye the Science Guy" won a
total of 19 Emmys.
And that does it for this edition of "One World." I'm Christina Macfarlane. Thank you so much for joining me. Stay tuned. "Amanpour" is coming up next.
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