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Zelenskyy: World Must Band Together to Stop Russian Aggression; Trump Signals Abrupt Shift on Russia-Ukraine War; "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" Back on ABC, Trump Threatens to Sue; Gaza Officials: 20 Plus Killed in Israeli "Massacre" on Gaza City Market; Typhoon Ragasa Slams into Costal China; Bianna Runs the Berlin Marathon. Aired 11a-12p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: All right, Ukraine's President delivers a stark warning at the United Nations.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: "One World" starts right now. Volodymyr Zelenskyy urges Ukraine's allies to step up their effort, and
says the world is now seeing the most destructive arms race in history.
ASHER: And a gunman opens fire at an immigration facility in Texas, leaving one person dead and two others hospitalized.
GOLODRYGA: A powerful typhoon slams into Southern China, leaving a trail of devastation in its wake. Hello, everyone. Live from New York. I'm Bianna
Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher. You are watching "One World". Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy spoke about a destructive arms race and urged
the world not to stay silent as Russia looks to drag on and possibly expand its war in Ukraine.
GOLODRYGA: His remarks on day two of the United Nations General Assembly comes as Europe and the world recalibrate after Donald Trump signaled quite
a remarkable shift in his view of the war. Zelenskyy says ending the conflict now would ultimately be cheaper for nations than allowing it to
continue, and he noted that weapons are evolving with artificial intelligence creating new dangers.
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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: Dear leaders, we are now living through the most destructive arms race in human history, because this time
includes, it includes artificial intelligence. And if there are no real security guarantees except friends and weapons, and if the world can't
respond even to all threats, and if there is no strong platform for international security, will there be any place left on earth that's still
safe for people?
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ASHER: Zelenskyy's speech comes a day after the U.S. President posted on social media that he thinks Ukraine, with EU support, can actually win back
all its territory from Russia.
GOLODRYGA: That's a major U-turn from Trump's repeated comments that Ukraine will have to cede territory to end the war. The White House says
the new stance is meant to pressure the Russian President.
ASHER: CNN's Nic Robertson is in London for us. We also have Kylie Atwood at the U.N. Kylie, I'm going to start with you just in terms of what
Zelenskyy said that he talked about the fact that listen from his perspective, if Putin is not stopped, he will continue to advance his
territorial aims wider and deeper, beyond even possibly just Ukraine.
He also talked about this idea that he was essentially feeling somewhat dismayed by the world's slow and somewhat symbolic gestures. How would the
U.S. administration, how would the Trump Administration have interpreted Zelenskyy's remarks?
KYLIE ATWOOD, CNN U.S. SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Well, listen, none of what President Zelenskyy said should come as a surprise to U.S. officials,
particularly because President Trump sat down and met with President Zelenskyy yesterday.
So, hearing the message from President Zelenskyy personally is something that President Trump was able to receive yesterday. But we did hear from
Zelenskyy a few messages that we have heard before. The importance of alliances, also putting the feet at the fire of the U.N. member nations,
saying that it is up to them whether Ukraine goes on a path towards peace, or whether Russia continues with its aggression?
Whether Europe continues to fund Russia's war, as he said, essentially making the argument that they need to stop their imports from Russia. Now,
this is an interesting one, because there are still European countries that are importing Russian oil. So, he is clearly making a point to call them
out.
The other thing, as you guys were covering in the introduction there is that he said that the world is living through the most destructive arms
race in history. And then one of the interesting points that he went on to say that Ukraine is ready to start exporting its arms that it has made
effectively making the case that, yes, Ukraine needs support from the international community right now to continue fighting Russia.
But also, that Ukraine will be in a position to help the international community going forward, because they have put a lot of effort into their
defense production, and those defense weapons have actually been tested on the battlefield.
Now, President Zelenskyy did not directly address the reversal that we heard from President Trump yesterday in that Truth Social post. Making the
argument that Ukraine is now in a position to actually win back all of its territory from Russia.
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A reversal, because before he had previously been saying that in order to strike a peace deal, Ukraine would have to give up some of that territory
to Russia. We'll watch and see where this goes.
But significantly, as you guys were saying, President Trump also said that that would come with the support of the European Union, so perhaps putting
the onus really on Europe to continue supporting Ukraine. The question mark here is where the U.S. role will actually play out here.
Diplomats here at the United Nations are feverishly trying to figure out exactly where Trump wants to go with this. U.S. Officials are telling us
that this is part of a strategy on Trump's behalf to try and draw Putin back to the negotiating table. We'll have to see if that strategy actually
works.
But for right now, there are currently no direct talks between Ukraine and Russia that are planned in the near future, and that is the area for us to
continue watching, guys.
ASHER: All right, Kylie Atwood, thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: I want to bring in Nic Robertson, who has been watching all of this for us from London and getting reaction from Ukraine as well. And Nic,
it was interesting to hear President Zelenskyy say that there's no security guarantee right now, except for friends and weapons.
Is it the Ukrainians view that those weapons will be coming from a long- time friend, like the United States, or is the U.S. now just pivoting to Europe supplying those weapons going forward?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: You know, I think Zelenskyy was speaking to a number of audiences. Obviously, his prime
audience is President Trump. Another audience will have been the European allies, and as well, he was speaking to the whole room there.
Look, I think you know what Zelenskyy is saying here is even with them. And this is what I think I heard even with powerful friends, it's still not
enough unless you have weapons. So, I think that was a very clear message to President Trump, I've heard your words, but you've been inconsistent,
and what we need are your weapons.
And from President Trump saying yesterday that he's going to continue to supply weapons to NATO. They'll buy them, and then they'll pass them on to
Ukraine, and good luck to them. So, in a way, President Trump is being a thoroughfare to enable the war to continue. That's what Zelenskyy wants.
Although he also spoke about the need for international institutions, the writ of international law, which you said is failing. International
institutions are not a sort of favorite of President Trump, if you will. We look at the way that he pulled apart various sort of elements and ideas at
the U.N. yesterday is just one example of that.
So, what Zelenskyy is getting at here is to all those in the room, you have to be tougher. We as international countries, have to reform the way that
we enforce, or are able to enforce international laws, and that's through those strong international institutions.
Excuse me, but I do think it was a very clear message that even with strong friends, unless they let those weapons get to you, you cannot be effective.
You don't have security. And I do think that was, that was the President Trump.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah. And reminding those who were listening at the U.N. that as expensive as those weapons are, as he said, it is still cheaper than
allowing this war to continue at the rate that it is. Nic Robertson, thank you.
ASHER: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Russia is responding to the U.S. President's dramatic U- turn on Ukraine and his latest comments that Kyiv could reclaim all land occupied by Moscow.
ASHER: Earlier, the Kremlin pushed back by insisting its economy is resilient and warned that Russia is, quote, a real bear, not a paper tiger.
In a lengthy social media post on Tuesday, Donald Trump called Moscow a paper tiger weakened by war and struggling with fuel supplies.
GOLODRYGA: U.S. Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, meanwhile, is set to meet with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in New York in the next hour.
For more on all this, let's bring in Alexander Gabuev. He's the Director at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center. Sasha, always good to see you.
So, I'm just wondering how you interpreted this head turning note and message from President Trump, who, for even before he came back into
office, had always said that Ukraine will inevitably have to cede territory.
By the way, Democrats that have been supporting Ukraine as well acknowledged as much now saying that he effectively believes, with
continued support from Europe, that Ukraine can maintain control and regain all of the territory lost. How are you interpreting that? And how do you
think the Kremlin's interpreting that?
ALEXANDER GABUEV, DIRECTOR, CARNEGIE RUSSIA EURASIA CENTER: And he even wrote that Ukraine can actually get more territory that its international
recognized 1991 borders. It's interesting to see Trump's military analysis, and I will not comment the validity of that.
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I think that on what Ukraine really needs internal support, we see a pretty consistent position. We see that the U.S. is not writing any new checks, so
there will be no another supplemental coming Ukraine's way. And the U.S. is ready to sell its weapons to NATO for them to transfer to Ukraine, but is
not ready to provide them for free the way Biden Administration was doing.
So, the Kremlin interprets that that we hear a very loud bite bark now, but we don't see any new bite, and that's probably OK for the Kremlin.
ASHER: And just in terms of what Zelenskyy is saying about sort of Donald Trump's new position, both in terms of what came out of their meeting and
also what Donald Trump said at the UNGA yesterday. He said it's a big shift, and it's very positive.
We saw Donald Trump going after Putin more. But Donald Trump has this habit of making all sides nervous. The fact that he appears temporarily looks
like the light is going out behind you. We can still see you, though.
The fact that it is so distracted now. The fact that Zelenskyy has Donald Trump's support at least temporarily. That support is not something that he
can actually count on. What does he do with that support, especially given that Donald Trump's support, as we've seen in the past, could be here today
and gone tomorrow?
GABUEV: It's a rhetorical support, and that's important to note. And I don't think that this rhetorical support is very material. It's uplifting
for Ukrainians to hear. Of course, President Zelenskyy has all the right reasons to pitch this to international community and to his domestic
audience as a big diplomatic victory. That's definitely much, much, much more uplifting picture that the Oval Office debacle back in winter.
But nevertheless, what counts for Ukraine now is material support weapons and money and weapons is there, but for sale and money is not coming from
the U.S. So, with this statement and with rhetoric, it looks like the ball is really in European's court, and it's up to Europeans to help Ukraine to
sustain this fight and drag down Russia to the point where it will be no advances.
Whether President Trump is correct that Ukraine can reclaim all of its territories stolen by Russia. I think that a lot of military analysts beg
to differ, but nevertheless, that's now the crucial test, and it's up to the Europeans whether they will find all of the resources to enable
Ukrainian self-defense.
GOLODRYGA: Alex given that, and I believe that the lights went out because of energy efficiency standards when motion isn't detected. On the subject
of energy --
ASHER: That was a -- good pivot Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: President Trump now says that more sanctions won't be leveled by his administration until Europeans do more to wean themselves off of
purchasing Russian oil and natural gas. They have done significantly in terms of cutting back, but a number of countries still remain a massive
purchaser of Russian oil and gas and say they won't cut back, including some of Trump's closer allies in the EU.
What are you hearing from European officials about that ultimatum from President Trump? Will they take him up on it in hoping that the president
then, in turn, will finally announce new sanctions against Russia?
GABUEV: I think that definitely Europeans will try to cut back their purchases of Russian oil and gas. They're still buying LNG from Russia by
France to zero, and they have all the pragmatic reasons to do that just to diminish Russia's cash flow, as well as hopes that President Trump will
impose some sanctions.
Though, these hopes are weak, and if the sanctions are tariffs, well, Russia sells to the United States 3.5 billion goods a year. That's less
than 2 percent of Russia's overall export. You can sanction the hell out of that. It will not have a material impact.
Whether Trump is serious to go after China, which is the largest buyer of Russian oil and gas and largest enabler of the Russian war machine. I think
that there is serious doubts, because China has very powerful tool to push back, and its control over critical minerals and magnets that the U.S.
economy needs.
President Trump is seeing Xi Jinping in Korea at the end of October. So, it's very unlikely that the U.S., even if Europeans do their part of the
bargain, will be able to go out to China.
ASHER: And just in terms of how all of this is affecting the Russian economy?
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I mean, obviously Vladimir Putin has been intimating with quite some time that the Russian economy is resilient. How resilient is it?
GABUEV: We see that the clouds are gathering on the sky and that the growth, economic growth is flattening. Russia's economy will grow around 1
percent that's the latest assessment of the ministry of the economy. At the beginning of the year, they have hope that it will grow 2.5 percent. So,
now it's one.
Budget deficit is growing, and there are problems in some sectors, particularly in oil processing that's enabled not by sanction, but very
successful Ukrainian drone attacks. However, Russia still have reserves. It can cut civilian expenditures, spend less on health care, infrastructure,
education and spend more on defense, and that's exactly what the new budget is about.
So, Putin is trying to wait out Ukraine and hope that Western support and European financial support will not materialize or dwindle, and then he can
claim victory. And again, Europe has a lot of agencies to prove him wrong.
GOLODRYGA: Right, and there's some $300 billion of reserve that are currently frozen, and there's a lot of pressure on Europe to act on that
now as well. Interesting to hear President Trump really slamming Russia's economy yesterday during his speech, as well, talking about how weak it is.
Sasha Gabuev, Alexander, I was call you Sasha, exactly.
ASHER: Instead of calling him Sasha --
GOLODRYGA: Thank you so much. Good to see you.
ASHER: Good to see you. All right, according to U.S. immigration officials, two people are now dead and one has been injured after a shooting at an ICE
facility in Dallas, Texas just a few hours ago.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, officials say the suspected shooter has died from a self- inflicted gunshot. For more on this, Priscilla Alvarez joins us now from Washington, DC. The ICE administrator had actually been here live on CNN
this morning as this was happening and unfolding. Walk us through the very latest in terms of the investigation here and what transpired?
PRISCILLA ALVAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, we're still waiting to hear more details at a press conference in Dallas. But we have heard from the
Dallas Police already in a post on X where they provided some information.
What that information says is that about at 06:40 a.m. today, the Dallas Police responded to an assist officer call at this facility, that the
preliminary investigation determined that a suspect opened fire at a government building from an adjacent building, and that two people were
transferred to the hospital with gunshot wounds.
One victim died at the scene, and the suspect is deceased now. The acting ICE Director Todd Lyons had said earlier this morning on CNN that the
shooter died from a self-inflicted wound. I've also been told by a Homeland Security Official that the person shot from an elevated position, but we
are still trying to understand and get more details about the motive of the shooting, which still remains unclear.
What we do know, however, from our sources, is that two of those who were shot, at least two of them were detainees. For some context as to what this
facility is. It is a place where immigrants are taken to be processed before they are taken later to a detention center. So typically, this has
around three or four holding rooms in this facility.
There are generally a couple dozen people there at any given time, and they are there for a short period of time while they are processed and then
taken to a detention center. I have been talking to immigration attorneys this morning who were planning to check in, do a routine check in with
their clients when all of this unfolded.
So, continuing to talk to them to gather details as to what they are hearing from any clients they represent who are there, and also the clients
who were anticipating going for their ICE check in at this facility today.
So again, there are still a lot of unanswered questions here. Homeland Security officials have also been saying over the course of the morning
that no ICE agents were shot or injured, that they have also said that there is an uptick in attacks and threats toward ICE personnel and
facilities over recent months.
In fact, this particular facility was the target of a bomb threat in late August. So, what we know is that those who are the victims here, at least
two of them were detainees, but certainly so many questions still as to what the motive was of the shooter, and hopefully we'll learn a lot more
about this in the minutes to come in this press conference in Dallas.
GOLODRYGA: All right, Priscilla Alvarez in Washington for us. Thank you.
ASHER: Thank you. All right up next on "One World" with some tears and laughs, a TV talk show that has divided America returned to the air what
Jimmy Kimmel had to say about free speech and Donald Trump coming up.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, in a moment likely to anger Donald Trump, Comedian Jimmy Kimmel returned to his late-night talk show on Tuesday.
ASHER: Yeah, Kimmel was greeted by loud applause from fans in the studio audience. His show was, of course, taken off the air last week after the
Trump Administration claimed Kimmel made offensive comments about the killing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. The whole thing blew up
into a major debate over free speech, and Kimmel was really emotional Tuesday night as he reflected on Kirk's murder.
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JIMMY KIMMEL, HOST, "JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE!": But I do want to make something clear, because it's important to me as a human and that is, you understand
that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. I don't -- I don't think there's anything funny about it. I posted a
message on Instagram of the day he was killed, sending love to his family and asking for compassion, and I meant it. I still do.
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GOLODRYGA: Tuesday's show served up plenty of jokes about the president and his allies, but Kimmel also had serious words about criticism from
President Trump.
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KIMMEL: The President of the United States made it very clear he wants to see me and the hundreds of people who work here fired from our jobs. Our
leader celebrates Americans losing their livelihoods because he can't take a joke.
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ASHER: All right, with more on all this, including reaction from Donald Trump himself, let's bring in CNN's Chief Media Analyst, Brian Stelter. So,
Brian, immediately after Kimmel got taken off the air, a lot of people have been talking about whether comedians in this country we're truly ever going
to be feel free to truly express their opinion in late night, given the atmosphere in this country, given what happened to Stephen Colbert.
Walk us through your thoughts about what Kimmel said last night in that monolog, versus what you had anticipated that he probably would say. And
also, how much Disney would have looked at or spoken to him about what he ought to say during his return last night?
BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA ANALYST: Right. This was a defense of dissent. It was a show of solidarity with other comedians and other
entertainers, and most of all, it was a statement by Kimmel that he's not going to back down. Neither is his show, and at least for now, neither is
his parent company.
You know, Kimmel acknowledged he was upset about ABC pulling the plug on the show last week, but then he also expressed gratitude toward ABC and
Parent Company Disney for giving him the platform. And that's exactly what ABC is doing, not just last night, but also in the days and weeks to come.
ABC is more explicitly backing up Kimmel by taking him off the air and then bringing him back.
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You know, we don't know. We're not privy to what the private conversations are about, what kind of tone Disney might want out of Kimmel? What kind of
framing the company might want out of out of his show? But historically, Kimmel has had a lot of freedom, a lot of autonomy.
And he sure seemed to have that again last night, yes, Kimmel expressing emotion about the killing of Charlie Kirk, expressing praise for Charlie
Kirk's widow, Erica, also trying to signal that he's not the villain that Trump and some Trump allies have made Kimmel out to be, that he's an
American, that he cares about his free speech rights.
And most importantly, I think, Kimmel tried to make this about a lot more than his own show. He tried to broaden a way out and make this about free
speech rights more generally.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, he also said that he understood why some of those words he said last week may hurt those that it did, and that he may himself have
felt the same way if the situation had been reversed.
And also, notable Brian that he not only said that he has Republican members of family and some of his friends, but also calling out and
thanking Republican elected officials who he said he never agrees with, but on this, they came out and spoke in his defense of the First Amendment, and
that being Senator Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.
STELTER: Yes. And I would love to see Ted Cruz and Jimmy Kimmel share a stage. You know, wouldn't it be great to have Cruz interviewed on the show?
Now, I know that's unlikely, but a guy can dream, because this entire story, it's been another example of a red, blue divide in America, a very
cold version of a civil war.
And reality is and Kimmel said, we're more purple, you know. He talked about people having a lot in common. He tried to find common ground with
his critics last night. I thought it was really telling that in Kimmel's monolog, he predicted that ABC would come under additional government
pressure because the show was back on the air.
And Kimmel was right about an hour before the episode actually aired, President Trump weighed in again against ABC, threatening Disney yet again,
and saying he didn't understand why Kimmel was returning to the airwaves. Weirdly, Trump said the White House had been told the show was canceled,
even though ABC never said anything like that publicly, and I highly doubt ABC would have said it to the Trump White House privately.
So, the president once again proving he wants to use the power of the state to compel private companies to censor or change speech. That's exactly what
Kimmel stands against, and he essentially tried to deputize his viewers, saying, look, if they come after Jimmy Fallon on NBC, you need to speak out
for Fallon as well. Kimmel again, trying to make it about more than a single show. It's about free speech rights overall.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah. And before we go too far in talking about the new found friendship between Jimmy Kimmel and Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz did say that he was
glad and would like to have seen Jimmy Kimmel fired. He just did not want the U.S. government to have any role, whether it's pressuring or behind the
scenes in doing just that. Brian Stelter, we can always dream, as you said. Good to see you.
ASHER: Thank you, Brian. All right, still to come, heavy shelling, explosions and the sound of gunfire, journalists describe a terrifying
scene as Israeli forces escalate the war and push deeper into Gaza City.
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ASHER: Welcome back to "One World". I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. Here are some international headlines we're watching today.
ASHER: Ukraine's President says the world is living through the most disruptive arms race in human history, and is calling on the international
community to increase its support for Kyiv in the war with Russia. Volodymyr Zelenskyy was speaking at the United Nations General Assembly a
day after Donald Trump said in a social media post, he thinks Ukraine could win back all of his territory it's lost to Russia.
GOLODRYGA: A new update on the shooting at an ICE facility in Texas. Authorities now say three people were shot one died and two were injured.
However, no law enforcement officers were wounded. They add the gunman is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Dallas authorities urged an end
to political violence in America.
ASHER: And Late-Night Talk Show Host Jimmy Kimmel returned to the air Tuesday with a somber and emotional words about the death of Charlie Kirk
and also a blistering attack on the Trump Administration over the issue of free speech. For his part, Trump is threatening to sue ABC for putting
Kimmel back on the air.
GOLODRYGA: Police in the UK arrested a man in connection with a cyber- attack that knocked out check in systems at some of Europe's busiest airports last week. The suspect was released on bail as the investigation
continues. Heathrow says, most flights are now operating normally, Berlin and Brussels airports are both reporting some ongoing disruption.
ASHER: War and how to stop it is a key focus of discussions at the United Nations this week.
GOLODRYGA: But even as diplomats debate what comes next, the Israeli military is pushing deeper into Gaza City and moving forward with its
planned takeover. Palestinian officials say more than 20 people were killed, the overwhelming majority women and children in an Israeli attack
that's being described as a massacre on a public market in Gaza City today. Israel says that it struck two Hamas militants.
ASHER: CNN's Oren Liebermann joins us live now from Jerusalem. So, Oren, we of course, saw Donald Trump speak at UNGA yesterday, really talking about
how important it was to him for there to be a cessation of hostilities in Gaza, for the war to come to an end. But of course, he did put the onus
squarely on Hamas, and didn't really talk about the humanitarian crisis unfolding in Gaza City as we speak. What is the latest on the ground?
OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN JERUSALEM BUREAU CHIEF: Well, so many others did address the humanitarian crisis and Israel's war in Gaza and how it's
conducting that war. And that's because of what we're seeing Israel, as it had planned, is escalating its attack on Gaza City as it assaults the city
itself for the takeover and occupation of the largest city in the besieged territory.
Over the course of the past 24 hours, Gaza hospitals say 64 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli strikes across the territory, many of those in
Northern Gaza, that's the focus of the Israeli military's efforts right now, where they say they are going after what they call Hamas terrorist
infrastructure and Hamas cells, they say are operating there.
You point out a strike from early this morning. This happened just after 01:00 in the morning. Gaza Civil Defense described it as a massacre, an
Israeli strike on the -- market in the Old City of Gaza City that killed 22 Palestinians, including nine children and six women.
The Israeli military, in a statement to CNN, said they were targeting what they call two Hamas terrorists. Although they didn't identify or name the
targets of the strikes themselves, they say they're aware of reports regarding casualties, but the number reported killed does not align with
their information.
Regardless, we still see Israel assaulting and bombarding Gaza City as they go after what they call one of Hamas' last remaining strongholds across the
territory.
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Despite all the attention Gaza got at the U.N. and continues to get at the General Assembly debate here. There is no sign that Israel is in any way
slowing down its takeover and occupation of Gaza City.
GOLODRYGA: And also, in just the past hour, reports of a Yemeni drone that had struck Israel, injuring a number of people there too. I know you'll
have more on that as you learn more about the story. But Oren, I do want to ask you about another report, and that is from "POLITICO" stating that
President Trump had promised Arab Leaders that he would not allow Israel to annex the West Bank.
This has been something that the prime minister and some members far right, members of his coalition have been threatening to do in retaliation,
really, for a number of European countries recognizing a Palestinian State. The prime minister is expected in the U.S. and to speak at the U.N. Friday
and then meet with President Trump. What more have you learned about this from the President to Arab Leaders?
LIEBERMANN: It's not surprising that this was a big focus of the meeting between Arab Leaders and President Donald Trump. Israel, including Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and some of the far-right ministers have discussed and those ministers have made clear their intent to push
Netanyahu to annex all, or at least parts, of the occupied West Bank.
Netanyahu has been careful in his wording here. He has said there will be a response to the countries recognizing a State of Palestine. And he has said
his decision on what that will be will come after he meets with Trump on Monday. That's important here, because it's really Trump that will decide
what Netanyahu is allowed to do and give him the green light to do it.
So, for the Arab Leaders, it is clearly a priority to make sure annexation comes off the table. And they do have leverage here. The UAE and Bahrain
were part of the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations with Israel. That was the big foreign policy accomplishment for Trump's first term, and
if they threaten to downgrade that or cancel that, that's the kind of threat.
That's the kind of language that will get through the Trump including, of course, the possibility of Saudi normalizing relations. They could easily
threaten and say, look, if Israel annexes, it's completely off the table. Trump had made clear that that was one of his goals as well.
So, they have leverage here, and it appears as if they have used that leverage to try to push Trump away from authorizing Israeli annexation of
the West Bank. The key question here is Netanyahu has yet to meet with him, and can Netanyahu swing that needle back? Can Netanyahu get what he wants,
and, frankly, Bianna and Zain, what his far-right ministers are demanding?
ASHER: All right, Oren Liebermann live for us there. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: Thanks, Oren. Well, as we've shown you many times since the war in Gaza began, Israel's bombs at times, don't discriminate between adults
and children, no matter who they say they're targeting. Jomana Karadsheh reports on one family's unimaginable loss, but first a warning. The story
contains disturbing images.
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JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): She's my only child. I had her after six years of trying Nidal (ph) cries. They didn't take their
little Nour out with them, thinking she'd be safer staying here with her grandparents. They warned, saying they were going to strike that building.
They didn't say they would hit this one he says. Nidal and Mervat (ph) were out searching for a place for a tent, for any shelter in the south of Gaza
when an Israeli strike hit this building in Gaza city, where many displaced, including their family, were sheltering somewhere in this
smoldering rubble is their four-year-old, Nour.
Nour, my darling daughter, Mervat screams, holding on to the hope that somehow Nour may have survived this. Please get her out she pleads. My
daughter is tough. She's smart. No words are enough to comfort parents so distraught. God bless her soul. He tells them, no, no, my soul will be gone
with her Mervat cries, refusing to accept what is now clear to all those around her with their bare hands, they dig, searching for their Nour.
The rescuer emerges from the rubble carrying the lifeless body of a little girl. It's Nour my daughter, my only daughter, Mervat -- I love you. I
swear. I love you. I told the kindergarten I would get them the 50 shekels they asked for. I said, let her be happy in her final days.
But she still refuses to believe her baby girl is gone. She tries to resuscitate her. She's suffocating she says. Nour is one of hundreds of
victims in Israel's renewed military offensive in Gaza City, one out of a daily death toll that may or may not make headlines on this day.
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But this one for Nadal, his Nour was his whole world. Jomana Karadsheh, CNN, London.
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ASHER: Typhoon Ragasa is battering Southern China right now. The world's most powerful tropical cyclone of the year has forced the evacuation of
nearly 2 million people there.
GOLODRYGA: Earlier, it barrel through Hong Kong, leaving dozens of people injured. Here, you can see water surging through the glass doors of a Hong
Kong hotel. And take a look at this, a dam burst in Taiwan, unleashing millions of gallons of water in a nearby town, claiming 17 lives.
Ragasa made landfall in the Philippines on Monday. Officials say seven fishermen died there after their boat overturned.
ASHER: Derek Van Dam joins us live now with the details. So, Derek at last count that I checked at least 21 people along this path have been killed
this week, that death toll likely higher. Just walk us through what we know. I mean, this is a typhoon that blew past the Philippines, Hong Kong,
Taiwan, obviously very strong. Just give us some more information in terms of what we know.
DEREK VAN DAM, CNN METEOROLOGIST: OK, so this storm made its landfall in the Philippines, the Northern Philippines, but also made a secondary
landfall in the Southern Guangdong Province in Southern China. Just about six hours ago. It wasn't a direct hit for Hong Kong, but it certainly made
its presence felt three-meter storm surges actually recorded by the Hong Kong observatory, the Meteorological Agency local to Hong Kong.
And this is what that looks like on the famous, famous waterfront here within Hong Kong. Water over spilling that waterfront. And then, of course,
into Macau, we have had heavy rainfall that has caused the localized flooding. You can see people trying to navigate through the flood waters of
what they dub as one of the densely populated areas of the world, most densely populated areas.
So, this satellite really shows a lot. It's lost its moisture source, which, of course, is the South China Sea that eye, when it made landfall in
Southern Guangdong Province, lost that energy, but it is going to wring itself out over this region. So, the main concern going forward will be
heavy rain and more flooding, like you saw here in Macau this video.
We don't want to see a repeat of this, but that's looking more and more likely, especially with another second storm waiting in the swings. And
I'll show you that in just one moment. The winds are still gusty, but nothing like what we experienced when this made its landfall in its closest
approach to Hong Kong where winds of 195 kilometers per hour were registered, really incredible.
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But the storm, since it is inland, is going to dissipate and continue to weaken. As it does so, will likely rain itself out by the time it reaches
Northern Vietnam by the early parts of the weekend. But the rainmaker going forward, will be a concern. An additional 150 millimeters on top of what's
already fallen across this region will lead to more localized flooding.
I talked about a secondary storm. Well, here it is. This is tropical storm Beloy, and it is just East of the Central Philippines. And I want to take
this out in time to show you that this will become Central Philippines issue by the weekend, even including Manila.
But as it races across the South China Sea, lots of warm ocean water here, just south of Hong Kong, into Hainan Island, this area will bring rainfall
to some of the hardest hit regions of Southern China, where we're getting the rain from Ragasa now.
So, you're going to add rain upon rain upon rain in a saturated environment, and that will lead to more flooding as we head into the
weekend and early parts of next week, Bianna and Zain.
ASHER: All right, Derek Van Dam live for us there. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: Well, in New York. Just a few hours from now, the U.N. Secretary General will host a summit on climate change alongside the President of
Brazil. It comes a day after the U.S. President dismissed concerns about global warming, which he called the greatest con job in the world, and said
warnings about climate only come from quote, stupid people.
ASHER: Let's be clear, nearly all climate scientists agree that global warming is happening and is mainly caused by fossil fuel pollution. And we
already seen the consequences floods are more extreme, droughts more widespread, heat more intense, and storms are more unpredictable and
deadly.
GOLODRYGA: Joining us now, Professor of Climate Studies at Columbia University, Radley Horton. Radley, welcome back to the program. I want to
ask you something along this same topic that we're just getting headlines from the U.S. Energy Secretary saying at a press conference here in New
York that his department would announce today the return to the U.S. Treasury of some $13 billion that was slated to subsidize wind, solar,
batteries and electric vehicles.
This obviously coming from the Biden Administration and their effort to combat climate change. But also invest in renewables. What is your reaction
to this news? And in your view, how far back does it, if at all, set the U.S. in terms of fighting climate change?
RADLEY HORTON, PROFESSOR OF CLIMATE, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY: So, I think you know the place to begin here is to look at where we're seeing the biggest
innovation in energy, and clearly, it's been in the renewable space, and the space that's not connected with fossil fuels.
We've seen the cost of batteries dropping by roughly 90 percent in the last decade. We've seen solar energy generation really emerge as the leading
source globally. And again, roughly 80 percent drop in cost over the last decade or so, to where it's really cheaper from the beginning, from
initiation, than traditional fossil fuels at providing energy.
It's fossil fuels that get the biggest subsidies globally. So, when you look at where the technology is moving, the innovations aren't in the
traditional fossil fuel engine, combustion engine. The innovations aren't in how we get fossil fuels out of the ground. They're in these emerging
technologies.
And if we're not investing there, we're falling behind the rest of the world, where you're seeing those efforts not just to reduce the hazards
caused by a warming planet and greenhouse gasses, but also to take advantage of cheaper energy prices, clean better air quality and greater
energy security that these new technologies can bring.
So, it's a big setback for the U.S. open question globally, how big of an effect it'll have, but the U.S. is still, of course, a key figure that
other countries look to.
ASHER: When Donald Trump spoke at the U.N. yesterday, he not only described climate change as a hoax and said that green energy had been a financial
failure in terms of the U.S. investing in it. But also, that the U.N.'s predictions when it came to climate change were wrong, and that we heard
audible gasps in the audience when he said that.
But on top of that, he clearly just ignored some of the damage we've seen, not just in the U.S. but across the world, from wildfires, from extreme
heat waves, from rising flood, when we've just been talking about a typhoon happening in Asia, Typhoon Ragasa right now.
What is the impact of the world's largest economy pulling out in that way, just in terms of pivoting away from the science behind climate change?
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But also, I was talking about this on my show yesterday, this idea that you have at least 50 percent of the U.S. population who actively believes what
Donald Trump is saying when he says this. How do you undo that damage to?
HORTON: Yeah, great questions. I think you know, starting sort of with the first part of the question, the basic science of why greenhouse gasses,
fossil fuels, should warm the planet has literally been understood since the 19th century, right, more than 100 years, and since that period of
time, we've seen endless lines of really irrefutable evidence.
We're observing increasing temperatures, spring, happening earlier, fall happening later, warming of the upper oceans, loss of ice, all these
predictions, including very specific predictions about how warming would differ with height in the atmosphere or with latitude from the tropics up
to the polar regions.
In general, the climate models we've developed have been excellent predictors of what we've actually observed. And if anything, there's
evidence suggesting now that our models may have underestimated just how much warming, and as you alluded, to change in extreme events like heat
waves, heavy rain events, droughts and their societal impacts.
We may have actually underestimated just how severe those impacts are going to be. So, the overall story is clearly the science of climate change and
greenhouse gasses is the best predictor of where the world is heading, and its pure folly to not invest to reduce those hazards.
And also, to plan for increases in those extreme events, to try to adapt and protect because the companies and the countries that try to protect
their industries, that try to protect their citizens from these extreme events are those are going to be the best position going forward.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, and despite what the president's saying, we had prior to that really been seeing a shift, even among Republicans, acknowledging that
climate change is real. It exists and it needs to be combated. And as you've noted, some historically pro fossil fuels companies that thrive and
make their living and fortunes off of fossil fuels have also now been investing heavily in renewable energy as well and alternative forms of
energy. Radley Horton, great to see you. Thank you so much for joining us.
ASHER: Thank you, Radley.
HORTON: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: We will be right back with more.
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ASHER: Breaking news into CNN, don't you love me?
GOLODRYGA: You love me.
ASHER: Like --. This lady ran the Berlin Marathon over the weekend. She said it was really -- it was really hot, right?
GOLODRYGA: It was 80 degrees. Those that don't believe in climate change, I'm telling you, very, very hard.
ASHER: And this is, am I right? That is the 10th. Is it the 10th marathon you run?
GOLODRYGA: Seventh.
ASHER: Seventh, incredible. She never tells us beforehand, by the way, because she's superstitious. So, I had to find out often. If I texted you,
I was like, Bianna, what you ran the marathon this week? Can you even tell me?
GOLODRYGA: And flew back home in time for Rosh Hashanah Services. If you only knew we said prompter wasn't working here in Zaine is, like I've got
it. And so, I'm thinking, what has she got? Oh, surprised me.
ASHER: I spoke to the team before the show, and I wanted to surprise you and congratulate you. It is incredible how resilient -- how resilient you
are, how you go for your goals. You are an inspiration to me, and that is, I mean, who runs seven marathons?
GOLODRYGA: Crazy people like me go to Berlin --
ASHER: -- styles, by the way. He was there too. Under three hours --
GOLODRYGA: -- me if I can sweat 47 minutes in a sweater. All right, stay with CNN. I'll have more "One World" after the break, because I love you.
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