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ZAIN ASHER, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Hamas says the first round of official ceasefire negotiations will begin Monday evening. "One World" starts right

now. Negotiators are gathering in Egypt to try to finalize a ceasefire deal. Plus, an unstable political situation in France looks even more

precarious after the shock resignation of the country's Prime Minister.

And snowed in at the top of the world, hundreds of hikers are stranded on Mount Everest. I'll speak with America's premier Everest guide and

exposition leader, who is at the site right now. Right, I'm coming to you live from New York. I'm Zain Asher. You are watching "One World".

Nearly two years to the day after Hamas stormed Southern Israel, murdering 1200 people, kidnapping 251 others, and triggering a war that officials say

has killed more than 67,000 Palestinians. There is cautious optimism the violence may finally be coming to an end.

Indirect technical talks between Hamas and Israel based on Donald Trump's 20-point peace plan are set to begin in Egypt today, and the U.S. President

is urging negotiators to move fast, or quote, massive bloodshed will follow on Friday. Hamas said it accepted some elements of the plan. And the

Israeli Prime Minister verbally agreed to the proposal in Washington last week.

But Netanyahu's government still has not officially accepted the agreement. No cabinet vote has been scheduled, and of course, some serious sticking

points remain. Meantime, there has been a de-escalation in fighting, but since Trump demanded Israel immediately stop its bombardment of Gaza on

Friday night.

The Palestinian Ministry of Health says that more than 100 Palestinians have been killed. Let's bring in CNN's Jeremy Diamond is joining us live

now from Jerusalem. So, Jeremy, as I mentioned, there is cautious optimism that there could be -- this could really represent the best chance yet at

bringing this war to a close.

As I mentioned, there are a lot of parts, some parts of this plan that both sides do agree on, but there are, of course, some sticking points. Just

walk us through. What those sticking points actually are Jeremy?

JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, that's right. Zain, on the eve of the two-year anniversary of October 7th, two years of war, two

years since the hostages were taken captive into Gaza, the negotiations are now beginning in Egypt, which represent the best chance yet to potentially

end that war and bring those hostages' home.

We understand that delegations from Israel, a Hamas delegation, and, of course, Egyptians and Qatari mediators are indeed set to meet for indirect

negotiations beginning this evening, in order to try and turn President Trump's 20-point plan to end the war into reality. But as you say, there

are still a number of sticking points that will need to be resolved.

And despite the momentum, the positive energy in the air and the sense that this time truly might be different. These gaps are certainly not minor, and

we will get a better sense of the extent to which they can be bridged as these negotiations begin in Egypt. One of the first issues that is going to

need to be addressed is, of course, the release of hostages and the list of Palestinian prisoners who would be released in exchange for those hostages.

Hamas has agreed to the numbers that the United States presented in terms of the exchange rate, if you will, for those hostages, but the names and

identities of those prisoners is one of the first things that's going to be discussed here. In addition to that, it will be the lines to which Israel

would withdraw during that hostage release.

And following that hostage release, within the Gaza Strip, the map that we saw President Trump put forward, which he called on Hamas to agree to

represents the deepest Israeli lines of control inside of Gaza during that phase that have ever been proposed in ceasefire negotiations with Israeli

troops as deep as 6.5 kilometers into Gaza as part of this agreement.

And so, you can bet that Hamas is going to be seeking changes to that map. And then there is the kind of the big one here, and that is whether or not

Hamas is going to agree to disarm as part of a post war Gaza plan, which is part of this 20-point plan, and is an Israeli requirement in order to end

the war.

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Hamas has yet to signal publicly whether indeed they are willing to go through with laying down their weapons and effectively what amounts to

their surrender in this war. And then big picture, I think, the last point to make here is the Israelis and the Americans are pressing for time here.

They want to get this deal wrapped up within a matter of just the next couple of days. And the Israelis in particular, have talked about moving

forward with phase one, the release of the hostages, that initial Israeli military withdrawal, as quickly as possible. The question is whether Hamas

is willing to do that before everything else has been agreed to here.

What before all 20 points have been agreed to? So, a lot to see in the coming days, and we'll get a better sense as these negotiations get

underway of how possible all of this is.

ASHER: All right. Jeremy Diamond live for us there. Thank you so much. Let's bring in Dr. Mustafa Barghouti is President of the Palestinian

National Initiative and a Member of the Palestinian Parliament. He joins us live now from Ramallah in the West Bank. Mustafa, thank you so much for

being with us.

So obviously, there have been many attempts at negotiations which have stalled in the past and hopes have been dashed, especially at the last

minute, for both sides, the hostage families on the one hand, and obviously Palestinians, who have suffered immensely over the past two years.

Just in terms of Donald Trump's approach, this no-nonsense sort of heavy- handed approach, explain to us what makes this attempt at peace different from previous attempts, and how cautiously optimistic are you that we could

end up seeing an end to the war here?

DR. MUSTAFA BARGHOUTI, PALESTINIAN NATIONAL INITIATIVE PRESIDENT: Well, it's different, because this time, the President of the United States of

America is involved, personally and heavily. That's the main factor that has changed, and I think also because of the involvement of many Arab and

Muslim countries who probably have made it clear to the American President that this situation cannot be allowed to continue.

But also, it's mainly because of this wonderful, unprecedented worldwide revolution of solidarity with Palestinian people, which has isolated

Netanyahu's government completely and deeply, and that is continuing everywhere, that is a very important factor that is contributing to the

situation.

Of course, we could see very soon, exchange of prisoners, the release of the Israeli 48 captives, and the release of no less than 1500 Palestinian

captives out of the 14,000 who are in Israeli jails now. That is possible, and it's easy to achieve, if Netanyahu does not destroy this opportunity

one more time, because we were there almost twice before, and Netanyahu was the one who undermined the agreement even when it was accepted by the

American side.

The other very big risk here that affects any optimism is the worry, and that is, by the way, the worry of every Palestinian and the worry of every

house in Gaza and in Palestine in general, would Netanyahu reactivate his war after he gets back his captives? That's the biggest worry, and

especially that we know that Netanyahu is talking about maintaining Israeli presence inside Gaza, that is going to be a very big point of friction.

And especially that Netanyahu keeps saying that he will not allow peace to come by preventing any possibility of a Palestinian independent state. The

other sticking point that they will discuss is the issue of Israeli withdrawal. It is absolutely unacceptable that Israel wants to keep its

troops inside Gaza, even inside Gaza City in Shujaiyya.

And it is unacceptable that Netanyahu wants to cut off 25 percent of the Gaza Strip, maintaining it as a buffer zone, from an area which is only 140

squared miles with 2.2 million people who need every inch of space now to survive and to reconstruct what Israel has destroyed.

At the end of the day, the biggest issue also is not only what's happening in Gaza, but also the attacks that are happening against Palestinians in

the West Bank. We have to remember that before the seventh of October, this was the main reason why we've seen seventh of October.

The Israeli terrorist settlers' attacks on Palestinians, the eviction of no less than 60 communities in the West Bank and the continuous oppression of

the Palestinian people. So, there is a chance that we could move forward if the United States of America is ready to exercise sufficient pressure on

Netanyahu and his government.

ASHER: And that is an interesting point, because that's a point that a lot of Israelis themselves bring up, especially hostage families.

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I mean this idea that it is highly likely that Netanyahu has some kind of political gain from this war, and obviously he is under a lot of pressure

from the more sort of right-wing flanks of his cabinet you think about Smotrich and the likes who are putting pressure on him, telling him,

essentially that it would be a mistake to end this war.

At the same time, though, and I think this is really key. Israelis are obviously beholden to the Americans for obvious sort of military defense

and financial reasons. So, what do you think Netanyahu's strategy is going to be going forward?

I mean, it's a fine line that he has to walk, showing respect to the U.S. President when you have the U.S. President clearly personally involved in a

20-point peace plan, as you know. But there are also political pressures and political considerations that he has to make as well.

BARGHOUTI: If Netanyahu, could he want to continue this genocidal war, he wants to continue the genocide that has already taken the lives and injured

more than 11 percent of the population of Gaza. Apply that to the United States of America, and you would be talking about 33 million people who

would have been injured or killed in the course of two years.

Netanyahu never gave up his original plan of ethnic cleansing of the people of Gaza in preparation for the ethnic cleansing of the people of the West

Bank. That's his ideology. So, if he could, he will continue. And of course, the continuing bombardment now, while we talk, while negotiations

have just started, the continuing bombardment of Gaza is not a conducive matter.

On the contrary, these strikes that are going on with drones, with Israeli airplanes, and with bombardment, with artillery, are very dangerous. They

already, as you have mentioned, killed more than 100 Palestinians yesterday, and they killed many today. So, if he could, he wants to

continue.

I think for him, it's a guarantee for his political survival, but also, it's a guarantee for the survival of his ideology of extremism that is

supported by fascists ministers like Smotrich and Ben-Gvir government. And again, it's the position of the United States which will be the determining

factor here, because without American aid, without American military aid, without American political support, Netanyahu cannot continue.

And now Netanyahu and Israel are absolutely isolated worldwide. And in my opinion, this solidarity movement should not stop, because at the end, our

goal is not just to end the war. Our goal is to end the Israeli occupation and to have Palestinian freedom and true peace that is based on justice.

ASHER: Yeah, and that's an interesting point, because one of the things that this 20-point peace plan talks about is this idea of some kind of path

to eventual Palestinian statehood. One of the things I want to touch on with you, though, is that another thing that this 20-point plan also

mentioned is this idea of a reformed Palestinian Authority eventually running Gaza.

Just talk to us about what sort of role you think the Palestinian Authority will end up playing in Gaza's future, post the end of this war.

BARGHOUTI: There are two points here. First of all, we don't think, and we don't accept, and that I think the position of most Palestinians, if not

all Palestinians, we don't accept to have a foreign rule of Gaza, separating it from the West Bank. We don't need that. Palestinians are

quite capable of running their own affairs.

We've built so many countries in the region, we can easily rebuild Gaza, and we have to be able to govern ourselves. We didn't struggle against

colonialism for 100 years to be controlled again by another colonialism. That's one point. Second, the dangerous thing about foreign rule of Gaza is

that it separates Gaza from West Bank.

And thus undermines any possibility or potential for a Palestinian statehood, which is exactly what Netanyahu rejects and refuses to have a

Palestinian state. About the Palestinian Authority, I hope that the reform that people talk about is a democratic reform, that we will really get a

situation where we will have separation of powers.

We will have regular free democratic elections, where people will be allowed to vote freely and democratically. And that people can participate

in these elections, regardless of their political opinions, because we see some pressure here to impose on Palestinians specific political views

before they are able to participate in elections which is not democracy at all.

And so, if it is about democratic reform, that's what Palestinian people are asking for. The people who have been deprived from free democratic

elections for more than 20 years. But if it is a reform just to make the Palestinian Authority a subservient for Israeli occupation, that is, of

course, not acceptable.

And we have to be careful when people speak about reform, we have to ask, what do you mean by reform?

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If it is democratic reform, that's exactly what we want, because at the end of the day, what we want is to live like every other people in this world.

In the United States, you choose your own leaders freely and democratically. In Europe, you do that, and we Palestinians are entitled to

that similar right, to be free in our own country, to end occupation and to have the right to choose freely and democratically our leaders.

ASHER: Right. We'll see what happens with negotiations. All right, Dr. Barghouti, thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it. All right, a

surprise move has deepened a political crisis in France. The French Prime Minister has resigned after less than a month on the job.

Sebastien Lecornu is a key ally of French President Emmanuel Macron, and was France's fifth Prime Minister in less than two years. He stepped down

just hours after unveiling his new cabinet. Lecornu blamed a lack of compromise for his government's collapse.

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SEBASTIEN LECORNU, OUTGOING FRENCH PRIME MINISTER: There are a lot of red lines in the mouths of many, at least some, not everybody. There are rarely

green lines. However, the very principle of building a compromise between political parties is to be able to combine green lines and take into

account a certain number of red lines. But we cannot be at both extremes.

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ASHER: CNN's Melissa Bell is live for us in Paris --

MELISSA BELL, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Zain, this is a record --

ASHER: I think we're having issues with audio. Can you hear me, Melissa?

BELL: We are.

ASHER: OK.

BELL: I can now hear you, Zain. I will tell you this is now a record of we got there. This is a record of brevity now in France, a remarkable 27 days

only, is what Sebastien Lecornu managed to serve. And bear in mind that he announced his resignation, to the general surprise of pretty much everyone

here in France this morning, only about 12 hours after he'd announced the composition of his government.

So, he named these ministers. And what's really surprising about this resignation coming this early is that the last three prime ministers who

came in since the dissolution trying to lead from the center, trying to reform France and cut its budget by cobbling together coalitions had lost

the confidence of Parliament as they tried to take on that question of budget reform and budget cuts.

Sebastien Lecornu never even got that far. He failed to get the confidence of the very cabinet he named only 12 hours before. And that's remarkable.

And I think, Zain, a sign of the fact that France appears to be getting more unstable politically since still. And this at the time, of course,

when the question of the 2026 budget and the urgent need to reform it and cut France's budget continues to get worse.

So, the options now left to the French President. Everyone is really waiting to see when he decides to speak to this. We have no word on that

yet, but there are growing calls from the opposition parties that it is time for another dissolution. Have a listen to what the far right had to

say.

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MARINE LE PEN, FRENCH FAR-RIGHT LEADER: We've reached the end of the road, and there is no solution. There won't be any tomorrow, and therefore the

only wise decision in these circumstances, and one provided for by the Constitution of the Fifth Republic, is to return to the polls and for the

French to give direction to the country.

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BELL: The far right or the keener, Zain, for that fresh snap election to be called Snap parliamentary election, the second in as many years since the

last one happened in June 2024 setting off this period of increased political instability. The polls suggest that the far right would do even

better today than it did last year, which must be part of Emmanuel Macron's calculation in not having announced it so far.

So, he's running out of options, and there are growing calls, not just for his resignation, although he's said that he's determined to stay on until

the next presidential election, 2027 but certainly growing calls for him to act more decisively. And the idea that he might choose yet another prime

minister to try and leave in the center is looking increasingly implausible, Zain.

ASHER: All right, Melissa Bell live for us there. Thank you so much. All right, still to come here on "One World" police on the move, but no

National Guard. Why a federal judge continues to block Donald Trump from deploying guard troops. Plus, the protests that have gotten Donald Trump so

angry will go live to one of the cities that Trump has targeted for a crackdown on crime, and how the city is trying to stop the deployment of

troops there.

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ASHER: Police in Portland, Oregon were out in force on Sunday to quiet protests around an immigration enforcement facility, but there were not

backed up by National Guard troops. A federal judge ruled on Sunday that Donald Trump cannot send guard troops to the city.

Trump has been pushing to deploy National Guard forces from Texas and California to Oregon and Oregon to Portland, but the judge has blocked him,

saying the protests in Portland do not rise to the level of a rebellion. Let's bring in CNN's Alayna Treene joining us live now from the White

House.

So, a judge, of course, has blocked this move, essentially saying that the protests there do not warrant National Guard presence. Just walk us through

how the administration is reacting to that?

ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah, they're going to keep fighting this. I'm told in my conversations with them, and they believe

that the president has the legal authority to do that. That's what you've heard from White House officials, including in some of the statements that

they've been releasing in the aftermath of this.

But I do want to walk through it, because what this federal judge decided, and I should know the judge was appointed by Trump. They are a Trump

appointee is really testing the limits of the Trump Administration's aims to continue to try and deploy the U.S. military into cities, specifically

democratic led cities, and a lot of cities where the state and local officials and leaders are saying that this is not needed.

Now, the judge ruled late last night against the Trump Administration for the second time in just two days, against the deployment of National Guard

troops. The first ruling was that he could not deploy, or the Trump Administration could not deploy Oregon's National Guard to Portland to deal

with some of this.

The second ruling is that, you know, after we saw the Trump Administration try to call up troops from Texas and California, the judge kind of argued

in that hearing. You know, it seems like you're trying to go around me and circumvent my ruling. That is what she said to one of the Deputy Attorney

Generals on this case.

And so now it's kind of a question of, can they continue to try and push this. The current effect, or the current order from this judge is in effect

until October 19th, and this is a temporary block on their ability to federalize some of these troops to Portland.

But again, from my conversations with White House officials, they're going to be challenging this, and we're already seeing them do it, not only in

Portland, but also trying to do this in Chicago and other cities as well. Now the president, for his part, has continued to argue that this is

necessary because these protests are spreading more crime.

He's calling them violent protests carried out by, quote, domestic terrorists. And he kind of reemphasized this yesterday when addressing

supporters at the 250th anniversary of the Navy yesterday. Take a listen to how he put it.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Now we're in Memphis. We're doing the same thing in Memphis, and we're going to Chicago.

We send in the National Guard. We send -- you know what, we send in whatever necessary.

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People don't care. They want to -- they don't want crime in their cities. And we're doing it, and we're doing it well, we're doing it like nobody's

ever done it before.

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TREENE: Nothing, to be clear, what the president is saying there is very different from what the governors in the States, the mayors of these cities

are arguing, which is that there is an anarchy and that the Trump Administration is using kind of exaggerated claims to make their use of

federalizing law enforcement and sending in the National Guard necessary.

But I'll just say I think the big picture here, and that's what's important to keep in mind, is that, of course, we saw this happened earlier this

year. Of course, Washington D.C., we saw that federalized in a big way, but then he also had sent National Guard troops to Los Angeles to deal with

protesters there.

A lot of people paid a lot of attention to those, but it wasn't clear just how broad that strategy was going to be. What is clear now is that the

Trump Administration is trying to, in a much bigger way, deploy the military to United States cities, and that's what's really facing a lot of

legal pushbacks.

I think we're going to see more cases like this. We just saw today that the State of Chicago, or to the State of Illinois, and also the City of Chicago

are both suing the Trump Administration for what they're trying to do there. So, this is not the end of this fight just yet, and the Trump

Administration is very eager to continue using the strategy throughout the United States.

ASHER: All right, Alayna Treene, live for us at the White House. Thank you so much. As Alayna just mentioned there, Chicago also hopes to halt the

deployment of National Guard troops to the city. The State of Illinois and the City of Chicago have both filed a lawsuit seeking to block President

Trump's move.

Earlier, Trump authorized 300 members of the Illinois National Guard to go to Chicago to protect federal immigration officers in the city. It comes as

the protests against ICE in Chicago have grown increasingly tense. On Saturday, a Customs and Border Patrol agent opened fire on a woman who had

allegedly rammed her car into a federal law enforcement vehicle.

The woman was arrested after being treated at a hospital. CNN's Whitney Wild is in Chicago for us. So, as Alayna was just mentioning Whitney, we're

seeing this strategy employed by Donald Trump, where he goes after these democratic led cities, essentially saying that crime is out of control, and

because of the protests targeting, you know, the administration's immigration enforcement that he's saying, there needs to be National Guard

presence.

Just talk to us about how Chicago is fighting this. We know that there has been a lawsuit that's been filed.

WHITNEY WILD, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: In addition to that lawsuit, the Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson signed an executive order today

that established ICE free zones and the city ordinance prohibits ICE from using city property for a staging area to execute operations or to process

people that they may detain.

This extends not only from city property, Zain, but also allows private businesses to make that same declaration. So, if a private business does

not want ICE to operate on their property, this new city ordinance prohibits ICE from doing so. The question is, who is going to enforce it?

Is the Chicago Police Department responsible for enforcing it. Is the assumption that ICE is just going to accept these rules. These are

outstanding questions, and what we have seen over the last few weeks shows that there is, you know, more pressure coming from federal officials to try

to push the boundaries of what Illinois officials think is allowed.

As you pointed out, there have been several protests over the last several weeks at an ICE facility in a place called Broadview, Illinois, that is

about 10:30, minutes west, about 10 miles west of Chicago. What we've seen there is that, you know, federal officials have, in some cases, detonated

non-lethal munitions.

We're talking about pepper balls, rubber bullets, tear gas at protesters who are compressing on that facility. But further, Zain, they were actually

supported by the Illinois State Police. So, all of this is to say that there is local support for these federal officials here as they're

continuing their operations.

I'll say, you know what I think is an important nuance here, though, is that the laws in Illinois prohibit local police from helping ICE execute,

but they, you know, certainly we've seen them do crowd control. We've seen them, you know, in that capacity, you know, tangentially protecting these

ICE assets.

What the, you know, crux of the lawsuit that was filed today is that this is politically motivated, that the president has made derogatory statements

about Chicago for quite some time, for many years, and that his intention is to, you know, go into Chicago to create a crisis where there is no

crisis, Zain.

So, the question is, you know, what are courts going to say about this? Where is the boundary? Certainly, they've had two adverse rulings in

Portland. Back to you.

ASHER: All right, Law Enforcement Correspondent Whitney Wild, thank you so much. Right, still to come, the latest on the rescue operation on Mount

Everest, where hundreds remain stranded.

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ASHER: Welcome back to "One World". I'm Zain Asher in New York. Here are some of the headlines we are watching today. Indirect talks between Israeli

and Hamas officials have begun in Egypt. They're discussing U.S. President Donald Trump's 20-point Gaza peace plan. Hamas has agreed to pass the

proposal.

And Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu verbally agreed to the plan in Washington last week, but it still hasn't been formally approved by the

Israeli government. And the International Criminal Court has convicted the first militia leader ever put on trial for war crimes committed in Sudan

staff war region, more than 20 years ago, the court find Ali Mohammed, Ali Abdel Rahman, who helped lead the government backed January, guilty of 30

war crimes including rape and murder.

His sentence will come after a new round of hearings. And the U.S., federal government shutdown has entered its sixth day with still no clear path

towards resolving the stalemate. As senators returned today, Donald Trump's Economic Adviser has warned that the White House will take, quote, sharp

measures if the shutdown doesn't end.

More than 200 trekkers are still waiting to be rescued on Mount Everest after an unseasonably heavy snowstorm pummel the Himalayas over the

weekend. Yesterday, Chinese state media reported that 350 people reached a small township in Tibet. Hundreds of local villages and rescue teams have

been deployed to help with the operation. Right now, for the latest on that rescue operation, here's our Will Ripley.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Freezing winds, chest high snow drifts, almost zero visibility, hundreds of trekkers caught in

really brutal conditions on Mount Everest right now. A powerful blizzard swept across the Tibetan side of the Himalayas. Many people were stranded

outside for hours or even days, with temperatures plunging like that.

Hypothermia is a real risk. The storm buried trails. It cut off escape routes in a remote valley on the eastern flank of Everest. The rescue

effort has been slow. It's been dangerous that part of Everest is much harder to reach than the north face, which is also in Tibet, but it has a

paved road leading almost all the way to base camp.

Teams of villagers and emergency crews have been mobilized to dig through the deep snow and help guide people down the mountain by hand. All the

trekkers are now believed to be accounted for. Groups were being brought to safety in stages. Many are finally on lower ground.

They're getting warm meals, they're getting medical checks, and they're getting a chance to recover the blizzard hit during China's National Day

holiday, when trekking traffic peaks. October is usually one of the safest and most predictable months for trekking, cooler temperatures, clearer

skies and far less risk of heavy storms once the monsoon ends.

But this time, snow, rain, thunder and lightning all arrived at once. Further south in Nepal, the same weather system triggered deadly landslides

and flash floods. Roads and bridges were washed away and dozens of people died. Officials are still assessing the full impact of the storm on

Everest.

Conditions do remain severe nature, of course, always calls the shots on the world's highest mountain. The weather decides when and how people come

down. Will Ripley, CNN, Taipei.

ASHER: I'm joined live now from Tibet near Mount Everest by Garrett Madison, President, Founder and Expedition Leader at Madison

Mountaineering. Garrett, thank you so much for being with us. As I understand it, you were on the mountain, but you managed to get out just in

time before the blizzard came.

The snowfall obviously started Friday evening. It intensified over the weekend. I mean, this particular weather system, this blizzard is nasty,

even for the most experienced hikers. Just explain to us what those who are still trapped are likely experiencing right now.

GARRETT MADISON, FOUNDER OF MADISON MOUNTAINEERING: Well, we were lucky to get down off the mountain a few days ago when we saw the snowstorm coming

in our weather forecasts, and over the last few days, it snowed over a meter. It's about four or five feet of fresh snowfall, and trapped a lot of

people up there on the mountain in the nearby areas. We're very fortunate that we're able to get down in time to a safe area and wait out the storm.

ASHER: And just in terms of how difficult it's going to be for rescuers, battling, you know, the snow, the sleet. I mean, the conditions are really

difficult right now. What are they going to be going through --

MADISON: Well, fortunately, the weather has cleared up a little bit. Now we've got some sunny skies, but there's 3, 4 or 5 feet of snow in places,

and that has to melt first before the rescuers can get their vehicles in to where these people are stranded. So, it's going to take some time, probably

4, 5, 6 days, maybe a week, before the roads will be clear and they can get in and help some of these people that need assistance.

ASHER: It's sort of difficult to fathom, because October, as our Will Ripley was saying in that piece there is usually one of the best times,

right, if you're considering tackling this sort of great, sort of adventurous feat in terms of climbing Mount Everest is usually friendly

temperatures, there's usually clear skies. So how unprecedented is this, the fact that you have this kind of Blizzard at a time like this?

MADISON: I think this was a big surprise that caught a lot of people off guard. Frankly, typically, the weather is very good this time of year. It's

very stable, clear conditions, sunny skies, but this major precipitation event came from the south and crossed over Nepal, raining a lot, flooding

through Kathmandu and now depositing a ton of snow in the Himalayas and on the north side here in Tibet.

So, it's been a big shock for a lot of people, and just something we're going to have to get used to.

ASHER: We know that rescuers have guided at least 350 people to safety. You're pointing out that the weather is clearing up at this point in time.

But still, I mean, aside from just how difficult it's going to be for the rescuers to get access to the remaining people who are trapped.

There's obviously a psychological impact of being trapped on Mount Everest in the middle of a massive blizzard. I mean, that has got to be just sort

of, I mean, and you think about these adventurers, obviously, in order to climb Mount Everest in the first place, you have to be quite mentally tough

to begin with.

But still, dealing with these kinds of conditions is going to be very sort of psychologically difficult, even for, as I said, the most experienced

hikers.

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MADISON: Yeah, we hope that they're doing OK up there, hopefully staying warm and have enough food and water and can survive until the rescuers are

able to get to them and bring them to safety. I'm sure it's going to be a tough ordeal for them, but hopefully they can pull through and be OK.

ASHER: All right. Garrett Madison, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Right, still to come here on "One World". Putin's threats the U.S. as he escalates

attacks on Ukraine over the weekend, what he said and why. We'll have a live report for you just ahead.

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ASHER: All right, Ukraine attacked Russia with more than 250 drones overnight, according to Russia's Ministry of Defense, damaging

infrastructure and cutting power to thousands in the Belgorod region. It comes in response to Moscow's strikes on Ukraine's energy and gas sites and

in the Lviv where local officials say five people were killed Sunday in a large missile attack and drone attack.

Strikes in Zaporizhzhia have also killed one person, injured 10 others, and left 73,000 customers in the dark. Meantime, Russian President Vladimir

Putin has warned the U.S., if it supplies Ukraine with Tomahawk missiles, that will lead to the destruction of Moscow-Washington relations. CNN's

Clare Sebastian reports.

CLARE SEBASTIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, this was a striking shift from Russian President Vladimir Putin, not because we didn't already know that

Western supplies of long-range weapons are a red line for Russia. In fact, we had very similar rhetoric from Putin last year when the Biden

Administration gave Ukraine limited permission to use U.S. made ATACMS missiles to strike Russian soil.

But it's a departure from a tightly held policy among Russian officials since Trump took office, of avoiding direct criticism of him or his

policies.

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VLADIMIR PUTIN, PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA: You just mentioned the President of the United States. There were questions related to, let's say, the

discussion of problems with the supply of new weapon systems, including long range, high precision systems, tomahawks. I have already said that

this will lead to the destruction of our relations, or at least the positive trends that have emerged in these relations.

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SEBASTIAN: So, this was Putin really threatening to walk away from Trump's efforts to repair relations, something that, of course, has brought huge

benefits to Russia, allowing it to sidestep new U.S. sanctions and burnish Putin's global image. Why are they doing this?

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Well, tomahawks would be a major step up in firepower for Ukraine. Missiles with at least five times the range of the attackers and capable of carrying

much larger payloads than Ukraine's long-range drones, if of course, mission were granted to use them on Russian soil, then they would add

another layer of complexity to Russia's ability to move troops and weapons into Ukraine through its own territory.

Now there is no guarantee tomahawks will be delivered at this point, but it would be a very strong signal that the U.S. is not governed by a fear of

Russian red lines and is not set on a policy of appeasement towards Moscow. And that could change Russia's calculus on this war. Clare Sebastian, CNN,

London.

ASHER: All right, it is showtime for Taylor Swift to how the pop superstar took over the box office with an unprecedented album debut event.

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ASHER: All right, we want to talk to you about Taylor Swift, her new album, the "Life of the Showgirl". If you haven't heard it yet, where have you

been in less than 11 hours? "Life of the Showgirl" became Spotify's most streamed album in a single day this year. And Taylor's takeover did not

stop with songs.

Song, listen, Swifties swarmed movie theaters for the three-day album debut event Taylor Swift the official release party of a show girl. The movie

topped the domestic box office with about $33 million domestically. Tonight, Swift is also set to appear on the "Tonight Show" with Jimmy

Fallon.

Let's bring in Lisa Respers France, I see you beaming. Taytay obviously raked in about -- You are hilarious. She rated about $33 million at the box

office this weekend. Truly is a Taylor takeover. Did you grab your popcorn? Did you see it? What are your thoughts?

LISA RESPERS FRANCE, CNN REPORTER: My thoughts are, you cannot stop this woman from making money, Zain.

ASHER: Pretty good --

FRANCE: I mean, she is always -- yeah, she's going to sell all of the tickets. She sold over a million vinyl albums. Like, who is selling vinyl

in the day and age of streaming? It's pretty remarkable. But she's having all the success while at the same time, Zain, believe it or not, some of

the Swifties are not loving this album.

I have been glued to social media all weekend watching people keep it 100 about the fact that they do not love this album the way they expect it to.

They feel like she's not up to par with the lyrics.

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But those who love it. Really, really love it. And I think that is evident by how much money that she's made, both at the box office and with the

streaming and selling physical copies of this album. And of course, we're watching right now the video for "The Fate of Ophelia", which just dropped.

And I think it's a lot of fun, if for no other reason, you get to go through and try to figure out what the Easter eggs are all about. Like, at

one point she catches a football and it's like, oh, wow. Can't even imagine what she's referencing there, Zain.

ASHER: Hilarious. Are you a big Taytay fan yourself, Lisa?

FRANCE: So, I appreciate Taylor Swift for who she is. In many ways, she feels like this error. And yes, I'm using error. This error is Dolly

Parton, because she is such a tremendous songwriter, but also, I think she's really good at really honing in on her audience.

She's always been all about the fans, and they return the love. I remember when social media was really first, you know, popping off and Instagram

started becoming a thing, and she would go in and she would drop comments on some of her fan's postings. And also, when she used to do the meet and

greets, she made it a point with some of the people to actually know something about them, so you might meet her, and she'd be like, oh, you

just got a new puppy.

How's that going? And that goes a really long way. And I think we see that, Zain, with the way that the fan base has reacted to her. She has a really,

really devoted fan base, and that's because she's given so much to them over the years, which again, makes it like really kind of wild to watch

those who are not as into this album, who are devout Swifties, being critical of her. So, it's like, wow, the call is coming from inside the

house name.

ASHER: Yeah. I mean, I always say that Taylor Swift is like your college roommate who just did really well for herself. You know what I mean? Like,

that's the -- it's like your friend in high school who just became really successful.

FRANCE: Exactly.

ASHER: That she's so accessible in that way.

FRANCE: Yeah.

ASHER: So, she's actually going to be on Jimmy Fallon tonight.

FRANCE: Yeah.

ASHER: What can we expect?

FRANCE: I think she's going to share more about the lyrics and about what went into the thinking. We're getting to see a lot of Taylor, by the way. I

mean, she was all over European media, which made sense, because she was on the European leg of the air's tour when she actually recorded this album.

And so now she's coming stateside, and I think she's going to have a lot of fun with Jimmy Fallon, because they're actually friends off air. So, I

think she's going to be relaxed. She's going to be funny, because Taylor Swift is very funny. I feel like people forget that.

ASHER: She's -- you know, it's so funny. I like. I did not know that she was so talented, funny as well. Super successful, gorgeous and hilarious. I

mean, this girl has it all. And very accessible and down to earth --

FRANCE: All of the things, Zain. All of the things.

ASHER: All of the things. All right. Well, we'll be watching what happens tonight on Jimmy Fallon. And he's such a sweetheart too.

FRANCE: He is.

ASHER: He has such good energy. I love Jimmy Fallon.

FRANCE: He puts everybody at ease.

ASHER: Yeah, he's really good at that. All right, Lisa Respers France -- you, by the way --

FRANCE: Thank you. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

ASHER: I'll see you soon.

FRANCE: Take care.

ASHER: All right. Hundreds of hot air balloons filled the New Mexico sky on Sunday as part of the Albuquerque International Balloon Fiesta, which

started back in 1972. Organizers say it is the largest of its kind in the world. More than 500 balloons will take part in the nine-day fiesta.

And in Germany, the 190th annual Oktoberfest has wrapped up in Munich after welcoming more than 6.5 million guests over 16 days who drank more than 6

million liters of beer. That could be a big reason why they lost more than 4000 objects, including wallets, clothing, umbrellas and mobile phones --

Finally, this hour three scientists have won this year's Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for their research on the body's immune system. The

Nobel Committee cited a Japanese and two American researchers for increasing human understanding of how the immune system actually functions.

Mary E. Brunkow, Fred Ramsdell and Shimon Sakaguchi will share the prize for their fundamental discoveries relating to peripheral immune tolerance.

The prize carries a cash award of 11 million Swedish Krona, or $1 million. All right, stay with CNN. I'll have more "One World" with my colleague,

Bianna Golodryga after this short break.

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