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Trial Date Set for January 5th, expected to take 2-3 Days; Former CBI Chief Comey Pleads Not Guilty to Federal Charges; Day Three of Gaza Ceasefire Talks Underway in Egypt; Federal Agents Fire Pepper Balls at Portland Protesters; Trump Calls for Chicago Mayor, Illinois Governor to be Jailed; Bob Ross Paintings to be Auctioned to Support Public TV. Aired 11a- 12p ET
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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: The man who once led the FBI faced criminal charges in court today. "One World" starts right now. Former FBI
Director James Comey pleads not guilty to charges in federal court as his trial date is set for January 5th of next year.
Plus, key players from the U.S. and Israel are taking part in talks in Egypt today to end the war in Gaza. And National Guard troops in Chicago,
even though city leaders don't want them there. I'll speak to a local a local pastor, about how the community feels about the military presence.
Hello everyone. Live from New York. I'm Bianna Golodryga, Zain is off today. You are watching "One World". The man who was once the top cop in
the United States today found himself inside a courtroom facing federal charges. Just a short time ago. Former FBI Director James Comey pleaded not
guilty to two charges, lying to Congress and obstruction of a congressional proceeding.
His trial has been set for January 5th, and attorneys on both sides say they expect it to take two to three days. Comey has been a fierce critic of
Donald Trump, and the president has made it clear that he wants Comey punished. One U.S. Attorney resigned under pressure to bring charges
against Comey.
Trump then appointed a new prosecutor with little experience who sought charges only three days later. Critics say the charges against Comey are
clearly politically motivated and represent a dangerous precedent for the Justice Department. Democrats grilled Attorney General Pam Bondi about the
Comey charges during her Senate testimony yesterday. They wanted to know if Donald Trump ordered her to indict one of his enemies.
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SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR (D-MN): Is it true that the career prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia found that there was insufficient evidence to
bring criminal charges against Former Director Comey?
PAM BONDI, U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL: I am not going to discuss pending cases.
SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D-CT): I'd like to know from you what conversations you've had with President Trump about the indictment of James
Comey.
BONDI: I am not going to discuss any conversations I have or have not had with the President of the United States.
BLUMENTHAL: If you see that --
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GOLODRYGA: The charges against Comey came just days after a social media post by President Trump urging Bondi to take action against Comey. The
president made clear earlier this week that he sees nothing wrong with putting pressure on his attorney general.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you worried that your own statements calling for his prosecution could help him actually in his defense of this?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: No, I think he's a crooked guy. He's a dirty cop. I'm allowed to do that if I wanted to do
that.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GOLODRYGA: As Former FBI Director James Comey appears in federal court. We're learning new details about the man assigned to oversee the case
against him Judge Michael Nachmanoff. CNN's Special Correspondent Jamie Gangel joins us with that story.
Jamie, what more are you learning about this judge? I saw you earlier on our programming, or you said that he is unflappable and somebody who
actually likes to expedite his cases.
JAMIE GANGEL, CNN SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT: And we certainly saw that today. I mean, the trial is going to start on January 5th. Judge Nachmanoff, we
spoke to lawyers who have appeared in front of him and people who know him, by the way, I just want to say these are lawyers who have both won and lost
cases.
So, they all say he's the perfect judge for this case, that he is thoughtful, he's always prepared, he plays it by the book, and he is not
political. I just want to read you something the judge once said when he was asked what he values most in a judge, he said the ability to listen, to
be well prepared and to be able to make a prompt decision.
We certainly saw that today. He is also aware that hanging over this case, looming over this case, is someone who won't be in the courtroom, President
Trump. And he knows every word he says, how the courtroom procedures go, will be scrutinized, but he is known for his judicious temperament.
And people who have appeared in front of him say that they expect exactly that. One thing about moving quickly, just to end, the judge said in court
today, I'm not going to let things linger.
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I will not slow this case down, because the government does not promptly turn over discovery, and prosecutors has every interest in doing so. I
think the point here is, you know, Virginia is known as the rocket docket for moving cases forward promptly. We're certainly going to see that.
And the fact he said that this was not a complicated case, and that a trial could be done in two to three days, says a lot.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, it did. And as you noted, the president already set his sights on this judge.
GANGEL: Right.
GOLODRYGA: Noting that he was appointed by President Biden, and early on, when this judge was appointed randomly.
GANGEL: Right.
GOLODRYGA: We should note President Trump indicated that James Comey got off to a good start suggesting he thinks this judge may be biased. As you
said, that is not what everyone has been telling you.
GANGEL: Nope.
GOLODRYGA: CNN's Special Correspondent, Jamie Gangel, thank you so much.
GANGEL: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: For some more legal analysis, let's bring in Bradley Moss, he is attorney who specializes in National Security matters. So, Bradley, first
just set the scene for us. And just talk about how unprecedented what we have witnessed today has been that a Former FBI Director who the President
of the United States has publicly attacked and viewed as a political enemy was in court now and pleading not guilty to two criminal charges that is
unprecedented.
Just walk us through what we can expect to see now in the months leading up to this actual trial beginning.
BRADLEY MOSS, NATIONAL SECURITY ATTORNEY: Yeah, it's hard to wrap your head around all the unprecedented things we've seen over the last 10 years,
since Donald Trump came onto the political scene, all kinds of norms and customs and things that we thought were just understood being dismantled.
But in this case, and I think your previous guest noted this pretty clearly, this is a straightforward false statement case. It should not be
very complicated in the end. There are two sets of deadlines that are going to, apparently come up in terms of pre-trial motions.
The Comey defense team, led by Former Special Counsel and U.S. Attorney in his own right, Patrick Fitzgerald, is going to just obliterate the
government's case with these motions regarding selective prosecution, outrageous conduct, abuse of process, but also the appointment of Lindsey
Halligan, whether she even qualifies to serve in this role under the statutory scheme.
And whether the indictment on its face can satisfy the legal standard before this ever gets the trial. It will be interesting to see how far this
gets, and if this thing gets thrown out before we ever get close to even picking a jury, let alone getting the trial.
GOLODRYGA: All right, Former Prosecutor Pat Fitzgerald, who you noted, is well known within the DOJ and has worked for many years with Jim Comey.
These two know each other quite well, and in fact, Pat Fitzgerald told the judge today that it is an honor of his life to represent Comey in this
case.
He also said that he intended to file motions to dismiss the case before then, including the government of malicious and selective prosecution based
on President Trump's public demand. In fact, he said this case was brought by President Trump directly. What do you think the likelihood is of this
judge doing just that and dismissing the case?
MOSS: So, it's certainly going to serve as an interesting test case on exactly how far a president can go in their public statement, to the extent
to which that can truly undercut the government's prosecution. We've never had a president, and especially in modern times, who talks publicly about
pending matters like this the way Donald Trump does.
And while that might excite his base and get him all kinds of great social media clicks, it really undermines the work of the Department of Justice in
bringing what they believe, at least apparently, Lindsey Halligan does is a viable criminal case. So, Donald Trump's posters, truth, whatever it's
called, is going to be exhibit one.
And all the other information we know about what Special Counsel Durham found about the career prosecutors memoranda to Lindsey Halligan saying
there's no case here with the Former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District concluded there's no case all that's going to be exhibits, 2, 3, 4, 5, and
6 to basically claim there's no case here.
There never was a case here. This is Donald Trump's revenge tour. Nothing more, nothing less.
GOLODRYGA: Right. We've seen multiple resignations in the Eastern District of Virginia. Their senior prosecutors have quit in light of this case. And
as you noted, Lindsey Halligan brought in by President Trump, appointed by him as a personal, previously a personal attorney of his very new to this
job.
And then we learned today that two additional prosecutors have been brought in from North Carolina to assist in this case as well.
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We know Jim Comey also intends to challenge the appointment of Halligan herself. Does that surprise you? And what if anything? What could he
challenge here?
MOSS: Sure, so it would be similar to challenges we saw in New Jersey with respect to Alina Habba, some of which has been successful at the moment in
terms of the proper statutory authorization under what's known as the federal vacancies act to put Lindsey Halligan in this position.
Remember, there was a U.S. Attorney already confirmed for this role. That person has now been pushed out because he would not indict James Comey So
Donald Trump simply put in his former personal attorney, former insurance lawyer and Former White House Lawyer, Lindsey Halligan, to take on this
role without having been confirmed yet, and under this, you know, strict time frame in which she can serve in this position.
The pretrial motion that almost certainly Comey's team will bring is whether she even is eligible under that statutory authorization given her
role at the White House and potential conflicts of interest. It will be fascinating to watch this play out.
GOLODRYGA: Are these the types of charges, obstruction and false statements from five years ago that would level and warrant this type of prosecution
in your view, especially given the high-profile nature of Jim Comey and his background?
MOSS: No, this whole thing has been rushed. And what's you know, sort of sad to see, and why this will embarrass the government in terms of the
Justice Department's reputation in general, is all the evidence the Comey team will have if this ever gets to trial. In terms of prior vetting of
this very issue that found there was no basis to bring a charge.
The inspector general looked into this. John Durham's team looked into this. The career prosecutors looked into this. The Former U.S. Attorney
looked into this. They all concluded the same thing. There was no case. There was not a prosecutable case for false statement.
And yet, Lindsey Halligan shows up with three days to spare and brings an indictment. This case is doomed to fail.
GOLODRYGA: So, in your view, are we watching the erosion of the DOJ's most important guardrail, and that is prosecutorial discretion.
MOSS: It certainly speaks to how Trump has effectively turned the DOJ into his personal legal arm. And certainly, in a way he never managed to do in
his first term. That's why you've seen all these career prosecutors either fired, pushed out, or they simply resign, because they're not going to do
this anymore.
They're not going to put their own bar licenses on the line, and they're not going to engage in what they view rightly so as prosecutorial
misconduct. The very essence of his constitutional framework, the very essence of the rule of law is that when the Justice Department brings these
cases, it's based on the facts and the law, not the political motivations of the person sitting in the Oval Office.
If things like this are allowed to continue, it will continue to unravel that very basic framework, and it will continue to undermine generations
worth of work to establish the rule of law in this country.
GOLODRYGA: We should note that James Comey is quite a controversial figure from both the right and the left right now. Obviously, given how he handled
the investigation into Hillary Clinton leading up to the 2016 election, and then his investigation into ties that the Trump campaign had with Russia.
Just from a national security standpoint, given that, that is your expertise, what message does this send that a Former FBI Director who had
been investigating a president and a presidential nominee, high profile figures, would then be the target of a case like this that was egged on
publicly by said president.
MOSS: Yeah, the message has been and remains quite simple. It's been the same message for the last eight months, kneel before the president, kiss
the ring, do his political bidding, go after his political enemies, his political arch nemesis, and under no circumstance. Are you ever allowed to
investigate, scrutinize, let alone prosecute anyone tied to the president, his friends, his family or his allies.
They are all above the law at this point, the Justice Department, as far as -- he is concerned, as far as he's trying to tell the entire national
security apparatus exists to serve his personal political needs, not necessarily the rules of the Constitution or the interests of the American
public.
GOLODRYGA: That is very chilling to hear that description never would have seemed to apply to the United States instead other authoritarian countries,
and yet hearing you lay that out really reminds us of how unprecedented the situation in the culture we are in right now is.
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Attorney Bradley Moss, thank you so much for the time. Appreciate it.
MOSS: Have a good morning.
GOLODRYGA: Thank you. Well, with the U.S., government shutdown now into its second week, travelers could experience even more delays at airports across
the country as they face shortages of air traffic controllers. Over the past couple of days, there have been issues in major cities like Chicago,
Houston, Newark and many others.
In Nashville, the air traffic facility was so undermanned that it had to close for a time. Air traffic controllers are considered essential
employees and are required to work during the shutdown, but are currently not being paid.
The U.S. Department of Transportation says that it has seen an uptick in controllers calling out sick since the government impasse, though, the
union representing them insists there is no organized action. Here's what travelers passing through Chicago have had to say about the delays.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were the last flight to leave Atlanta to come back to O'Hare, so we knew we were going to be delayed. We didn't know when we're
going to get here actually.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On the plane, unfortunately, I found that my flight to Cleveland been pushed back for 2.5 hours, so I'll be here with you a little
longer today.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know there's been some instances of planes coming really close to each other, or having to circle, or things getting delayed,
and I'm on a work trip right now, so concerns me about being safe and also about getting home.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN Aviation Correspondent Pete Muntean is at Reagan National Airport outside of Washington, D.C. And Pete, it's important to remind
viewers that air traffic controllers were already facing shortages even prior to this government shutdown.
It's something that you've been covering for the past couple of years now. What is the shutdown doing in terms of only exacerbating that problem?
PETE MUNTEAN, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, the government shutdown is really compounding the problems that air traffic controllers are facing.
You have to consider the stress that they're under. Many of them working mandatory overtime, 6 to 8 weeks of 10-hour shifts, and now you layer on
top the fact that they are not getting paid in this government shutdown.
So, it simply makes sense that some more of them are calling out sick, but it only takes a handful of them to really trigger these delays and
cancelations at airports nationwide. The FAA is holding a teleconference, a conference call right now about how the day will go, how its operations
will go in the nationwide airspace system.
We saw that the Newark approach control facility was on the list of concern for the FAA for staffing issues earlier today, for the morning shift that
has now dropped off the list. It's a spot that has been plagued by problems. But what is interesting is that over the last few days, we have
seen air traffic control facilities that are typically not on the list of concern for staffing shortages, places like Houston and Dallas,
Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Boston, the list really goes on.
The biggest problems on Tuesday were at Chicago O'Hare, one of the busiest airports in the country. About a quarter of all flights delayed there after
the FAA implemented delays due to staffing. And then at Nashville International Airport, where the approach control facility there had to
close for about five hours last night.
And the slack picked up by controllers in the tower at Nashville, also controllers at the Memphis center facility. So, this is only just the start
here, and I want you to listen now to NATCA Union Chief Nick Daniels, who says that this is not part of a coordinated sick out that the margins are
razor thin right now for controllers already working in this shortage.
And this will take some time, even though controllers are he admits calling out sick in small numbers. Listen.
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NICK DANIELS, PRESIDENT OF NATIONAL AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS' ASSOCIATION: Politicians are the only people that can end a shutdown. What you're going
to see is the stress, pressure and fatigue that air traffic controllers have to contend with, the very difficult world of managing this system
already critically staffed, and then wondering where our pay is going to come from, and having that steady stream of income. That's the impact that
I'm worried about.
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MUNTEAN: Transportation Secretary -- Sean Duffy insists that flying right now is safe, and the FAA will put into place delays if it is concerned
about staffing to not overwhelm certain air traffic control facilities. This is really a nationwide problem. It's where the rubber meets the road
on this government shutdown, it can be sort of an ambiguous thing, but this involves real people.
These are controllers who got their last full paycheck last Tuesday. They get one more paycheck, a partial paycheck next Tuesday, for work they
already did before this government shutdown began, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: And the longer the shutdown is in place, the more of these types of delays we can expect to see. Pete Muntean, let's hope the government
opens up quickly. Thank you so much. Still ahead, some of the key principles involved in Gaza ceasefire talks are in Egypt.
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A report on the progress being made, straight ahead. Plus, as a federal judge gets ready to rule on the deployment of National Guard troops to
Chicago, the U.S. President is calling for city and state leaders to be jailed.
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GOLODRYGA: An Israeli source says talks in Egypt are set to end the war in Gaza are focused on the details of an Israeli troop withdrawal. The
timeline for the release of hostages and which imprisoned Palestinians would be freed by Egypt. By Israel, Egyptian media says an expanded meeting
is being held today, with U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and President Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner, taking part.
Chief Israeli Negotiator Ron Dermer, a close ally of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is also attending according to local media. A source
says Israel and Hamas made progress in the first two days of indirect talks. Now the talks come as Israel keeps up its attacks on Gaza City.
Gaza's Health Ministry says eight Palestinians were killed and dozens injured over the past 24 hours. Doctors Without Borders says the
humanitarian situation in the enclave has become more and more catastrophic. Hundreds of thousands of people have been forced to move
south, to places where they lack water, food and shelter.
The Emergency Coordinator for the group tells CNN it's impossible to describe the scale of the impact of the two-year war that we'll have in the
months and years to come. CNN's Jeremy Diamond joins us now from Tel Aviv. So, Jeremy, in terms of the status of these talks right now, obviously, as
we noted, Ron Dermer has arrived as well.
He had not been there up until this point. What does that say in suggesting how far these talks have gone and the potential, finally, for there to be
some deal to be reached.
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, Bianna, I have multiple sources indicating to me that the fact that all of the senior players are
now in Sharm El-Sheikh is a very positive indicator. It suggests that progress has been made. And in fact, I've been told that progress has been
made in these negotiations in their first few days.
And that the arrival, not only of Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff, but also Netanyahu's closest advisor, Ron Dermer, as well as the Qatari Prime
Minister who is also arriving in Egypt today.
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That this is all a very positive indication that there has been enough progress made that the kind of senior officials can be brought into the
room and try and iron out the final points of contention in these negotiations. Now, the fact that the optimism is persisting and has
persisted since the weekend is obviously a very positive indication.
As always, there are the necessary caveats that we need to raise here. And that is the fact that these negotiations are not over until they are over.
And there are still negotiations ongoing over some very contentious issues, and agreement on those issues is certainly not a guarantee.
Everything from the list of the prisoners to be released on that front. For example, we understand that Hamas is seeking the release of Marwan
Barghouti, who could very much be a unifying force in in Palestinian politics and society, someone who was convicted in the Israeli judicial
system of plotting to kill Israeli civilians in an attack.
He has denied those charges and maintained his innocence. But in Israeli politics, you know, Prime Minister Netanyahu is already under enormous
pressure not to release Marwan Barghouti. Then, of course, you have the issue of the withdrawal map, the lines to which Israeli forces would leave.
We understand that Hamas already had some issues with the initial map that was presented. And beyond that, there is the timeline for the release of
the hostages, what Hamas is calling the quote mechanisms for ending the war. So, there are still a lot of issues that need to be addressed here.
And certainly, we've seen that the United States and Israel as well have been eager to conclude these negotiations in a matter of days. I think it's
clear that there will still need to be quite a bit of negotiation in order to try and arrive at an agreement. But the fact that everyone, all parties
involved, are still very positive about the direction of these talks, about the progress that has been made in the first few days, really is a positive
indication here, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, especially given that this is something President Trump specifically is really pushing for. It is his plan. So, this is a situation
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DIAMOND: And that really does seem to be the X factor here.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, it really is. And especially, I think, as it relates to what Prime Minister Netanyahu can do and say at this point, following all
this pressure that President Trump has exerted on both sides. We'll see what Hamas ends up deciding on doing. Jeremy Diamond, thank you so much.
Good to see you. And coming up, Donald Trump is threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act to send the military to democratic led cities. But one
senator warns that would cross an incredible red line into authoritarianism. Plus, as National Guard troops amass near Chicago, a city
the U.S. President calls a war zone, I'll speak to a street pastor there about what's really happening on the ground.
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GOLODRYGA: Welcome back to "One World". I'm Bianna Golodryga New York. Here are some headlines we're watching today. A short time ago, the Former FBI
Director James Comey appeared in court pleading not guilty to two federal charges. Comey is accused of lying during a 2020 appearance before
Congress.
His trial has been set for January 5th. Critics say the charges are little more than political revenge being carried out by Donald Trump and his
allies. Day three of talks to end the war in Gaza are underway in Egypt. Talks could be shifting into high gear with the arrival of key American and
Israeli negotiators.
U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, President Donald Trump, son in law, Jared Kushner and Israel's Chief Negotiator Ron Dermer, are in Sharm El-Sheikh
for what is being described as an expanded meeting. Outgoing French Prime Minister Sebastien Lecornu says there's a will among political parties to
approve a budget by the end of the year, making it less likely that fresh elections will be called.
Lecornu is continuing talks with other parties today to try to stabilize the political situation, following his resignation on Monday after less
than a month in the role. CNN has learned an arrest has been made in the deadly Palisades fire that engulfed parts of southern California in
January.
The fire destroyed thousands of homes and burned 9000 hectares. 12 people were killed in the Pacific Palisades area alone. It is among the costliest
fires in U.S. history. We await details of the arrest from law enforcement officials. And U.S. President Trump is escalating his showdown with
Democratic led cities and again threatening to invoke the centuries old Insurrection Act to sidestep court rulings that limit his authority.
Federal Appeals Court will hold a hearing tomorrow after a judge temporarily barred National Guard troops from deploying to Portland,
Oregon. Trump claims Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities are under siege by left wing radicals, and he has described Portland as a crime
ridden war zone.
Critics say that's nowhere near the reality. CNN's Shimon Prokupecz went to see for himself.
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SHIMON PROKUPECZ, CNN SENIOR CRIME AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's yet another image from another day at the ICE facility in Portland,
that doesn't fully tell the story here. Protests start small during the day, a man in a capybara costume fits the city's unofficial slogan, keep
Portland weird.
About a dozen people hold signs and play music. The entire protest zone is less than a block long.
TRUMP: It looks like a war zone.
PROKUPECZ (voice-over): President Trump's depiction has locals curious.
O'NEILL: We wanted to see the war zone. So, we found some coffee on the way, and we talked to some really nice people, and it's really peaceful.
PROKUPECZ (voice-over): As night falls, tension begins to fill the air.
PROKUPECZ: You see the officers are coming out now, because a car is coming out. And every time a car comes out, these officers come out and they push
the crowd back. That's usually when there's some altercation. It's when they come out, they push the crowd back as they wait for the car to come
through.
PROKUPECZ (voice-over): Federal agents monitored the crowd from the roof, at times, firing pepper balls on the pavement below.
PROKUPECZ: You can see there the pepper balls are coming from the roof.
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So, on this side, you have a lot of the Trump supporters and pro administration and pro ICE people, and there have been some clashes back
and forth with some of the other protesters. And they say that someone, one of them protesters, burned an American flag.
PROKUPECZ (voice-over): Keep in mind, this is all happening in less than a single block. Not even in the city center.
TRUMP: Portland is burning to the ground.
PROKUPECZ (voice-over): The rest of Portland is not in chaos. The streetcars are running, Guitarists play outside the famed Powell's
bookstore, and there's a guided tour in a Pioneer Courthouse Square. If you weren't looking for it, you'd never know anything was happening on that one
city block outside the ICE building.
REP. MAXINE DEXTER (D-MD): I need people to not take the bait.
PROKUPECZ (voice-over): That's why Maxine Dexter wants all these protesters to leave the ICE facility. The Democratic Congresswoman from Portland
supports their message, but fears they're playing into President Trump's hand.
DEXTER: The question is, are we being strategic? Are we being effective? And I would argue that being down there taking a risk that you become a
player in this reality TV vision that Donald Trump has in Portland is a mistake.
PROKUPECZ (voice-over): It seems unlikely she will get her wish. Protester Justin Allen doesn't think any of these people are going away.
JUSTIN ALLEN, PROTESTER: So long as there are these threats from the most powerful man in the world. People, maybe not myself, every day, but other
people will show up. And I don't think there's any way, nor is it a wise decision to attain peace via hiding.
PROKUPECZ (voice-over): So, for now, the likely images you'll see out of Portland, are these.
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GOLODRYGA: We're also waiting to hear from a federal judge tomorrow on whether a National Guard deployment to Chicago, including troops from
Texas, is even legal. In the meantime, Donald Trump is dramatically ramping up his rhetoric against city and state leaders.
Just a short time ago, the U.S. President called for Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson and Illinois Governor JB Pritzker to be jailed. Hundreds of
National Guard troops from Texas have arrived at an army training center outside of Chicago in a mobilization Pritzker calls an unconstitutional
invasion.
The president, meanwhile, is making it clear that if the court rulings in Portland and Chicago don't go his way, he will take other measures,
including invoking the Insurrection Act.
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TRUMP: Well, it's been invoked before, as you know, if you look at Chicago, Chicago is a great city where there's a lot of crime, and if the governor
can't do the job, we'll do the job.
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GOLODRYGA: Let's take a deeper dive into how this is affecting people in Chicago with our local impact segment. Joining me now is Reverend Donovan
Price, he's a faith based, First Responder to victims of violence. Reverend Price, thank you so much for joining us. You've been on Chicago streets
working for years now with young people in crisis.
What is your first reaction to hearing that the streets there in Chicago may soon be filled with National Guard troops.
REV. DONOVAN PRICE, FIRST RESPONDER: Well, I mean, from so far, what's happening to fill the streets of Chicago with National Guard troops is not
only unnecessary, but it's highly unlikely, and will probably just be, you know, kind of like some of the things we've been seeing, especially of
late, where the cameras show up to make it look worse than it is, to make it look like a war zone.
And there are plenty of people working to on our crime problem, but this seems separate from the crime problem. Now, it doesn't even seem as if it's
addressing the problem from which it very is calling for.
GOLODRYGA: Can you tell us more about the crime problem? Because it's pretty clear that there is one in the city, and it's something that city
officials and the police there have been trying to tackle for years. I know that you are addressing this head on by talking to and spending so much
time with Chicagoans, specifically the youth of the city there.
But just give us a sense of what the actual situation and the problems are in Chicago right now, that may not rise to the level that the president has
described, but clearly there does need to be more to be done here.
PRICE: Well, I don't even know if I would say that there's more to be done. There is a crime problem here. Crime is a problem. It's a big city. Crime,
if you look at the percentages and the numbers, crime has an ebb and flow. Crime is down here in general. I know that not from reading the
percentages, but from living the life, talking to people, dealing people, dealing with people.
How many times I have to go to the board with families and things of that nature? And then I see these small nonprofits -- nonprofits like mine,
solutions and resources that are working constantly and pushing forward, and we're doing that.
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And when you look at the numbers, even compared to other cities, it's not a number that would, you know, be calling for a war zone or be calling for
troops on the streets, which would turn back in terms of trauma, the receipt of trauma from the average citizen, just like last week's raid did.
You know on the average person, you know troops, that's a whole other level, and that's not going to solve crime.
GOLODRYGA: So, as the president has depicted Chicago as a war zone. You dispute that? Governor Pritzker saying, by sending these National Guard
troops, that's an invasion. Would you describe it that way?
PRICE: Absolutely, it's an invasion, not just physically, but it's an invasion of the heart. It's an invasion of the mind. It's an invasion of
the culture. It's an invasion of progress, and it's an invasion of life in America and the way that it should be, with its ups and downs, with its
ebbs and flows, and it's just unnecessary.
GOLODRYGA: I know, in doing some research on your work, you've tried to really build trust between residents there in law enforcement. And I'm
wondering, from your perspective, and also from what you're hearing from Chicagoans and those that you are working with, whether that impacts or
damages some of the bridge building that you've been working on for so long, in terms of establishing that trust between these two really crucial
parts and components of the city, law enforcement and the residents.
PRICE: Well, of course, that's always going to be a thing, and we're working with law enforcement, working with residents. We're doing great
work, the police departments, community affairs, the community -- the people who work with the community. Community policing department is doing
a great job here in Chicago.
And people are working. They're throwing events, they're making they're pushing forward. More people are working with the police department. Police
are stopping their cars and playing basketball and sitting on the porches. We're making progress of things that have never been done before, and that
became a greater thing back with a consent decree that was in Chicago -- that was placed in Chicago some time ago, and now things are getting
better.
Don't try and I don't want the federal government to drive, try to jump in on something that's already working and then claim that they're doing the
work, when in actuality, that's actually setting things back.
GOLODRYGA: We have. I'm sorry for the delay. We're -- CNN is also -- CNN Domestic is entering, is interviewing the Mayor of Chicago right now. As
you know, the president has threatened to arrest the mayor and the governor. Let's listen to how the mayor addressed those threats.
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BRANDON JOHNSON, CHICAGO MAYOR: It's unstable, unhinged, a double minded individual that, quite frankly, is a threat to our democracy. And it's
certainly not the first time that Donald Trump has called for the arresting of a black man unjustly. I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to stay firm as
the mayor of this amazing city with --
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GOLODRYGA: Reverend Price from what you just heard, how do you respond to that? And do you think, as the mayor seemed to allude, that this is --
there's also a racial component here in the president's ire towards the mayor. We should note the governor is a white man, but the mayor himself is
a black man.
PRICE: I think there are many factors that don't have to do with the solution of the problem that are included in the issue right now. A lot of
going back and forth, a lot of tits for that type situations, a lot of agendas, a lot of things that don't have to do with what everybody is
claiming to have in their first priority.
And that is the care of the people, that people might feel safe, that people might be able to move about, that people might be able to live their
life, live the American dream, live what America is supposed to bring to them, and give back to America, what America expects from them.
And I think that now some of that gets in the way of the love and of the help and of the care and of the hard work that is going into making this
situation better, and it kind of discourages me on all ends, that this is becoming an issue outside of the issue, it's bigger than the issue of a
little boy going to school and feeling safe.
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It's bigger than the issue of being able to sit in your living room and not have to worry about gunshots outside. It's bigger than that now, and it has
nothing to do with that, while at the same time, the issues that we're supposed to be caring about, they're still going on.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah.
PRICE: And the troops aren't going to solve.
GOLODRYGA: I know your work there every single day, spending time with Chicago's youth, who you call the pulse of the city is not going to stop
anytime soon, and will continue as well. Reverend Donovan Price, thank you so much for the time.
PRICE: Thank you. God bless.
GOLODRYGA: And still to come, no hurricanes have made landfall in the U.S. so far this hurricane season. So, will the streak continue? We'll hear from
Meteorologist Derek Van Dam, who is tracking the latest named storm in the Atlantic.
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GOLODRYGA: Vietnam is facing its second major flood disaster in less than a week. Typhoon Matmo dumped heavy rain on much of the country's northern
region. Floodwaters poured into a hospital, burst a dam and turned streets into lakes. Cars and motorbikes were left stranded as people waded through
calf deep water.
Vietnam's weather agency says up to three more storm systems are expected to hit the country before the end of 2025. And hurricane Priscilla has
weakened to a Category 1 after moving Northwest along Mexico's pacific coast on Tuesday, bringing heavy rain, strong winds and big waves.
The storm caused damage in the resort of Puerto Vallarta waterfront, with flooding reported in streets, businesses and hotels. Meanwhile, tropical
storm Jerry has formed in the central Atlantic Ocean, and by tomorrow, it is expected to strengthen into a hurricane. Meteorologist Derek Van Dam is
tracking the storm and joins us now from the CNN Weather Center.
Fingers crossed, Derek, that we can avoid an actual hurricane making U.S. landfall. What's it looking like with this trajectory here?
DEREK VAN DAM, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yeah, and it looks like this storm will take a very similar path to the storms that we've seen so far through the
2025 Atlantic hurricane season. If anything, that we've learned or been reminded of this year, it's that we don't need a landfalling hurricane to
actually have major impacts.
We saw the homes collapse into the ocean right along the outer banks of North Carolina. That just gives you an idea of how the proximity of these
storms can be but not actually make landfall and still bring those impacts.
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So where will Jerry go. Here it is, just east of the Windward Islands. It's looking disheveled at best, right? Really struggling with a lot of shears.
And I want to point this out to you look how quickly it's moving, 37 kilometers per hour to the west, northwest. And that type of forward speed
makes it very challenging for tropical systems to get themselves organized, vertically stacked and really strengthened.
So that's working in our favor here. Nonetheless, it's still a large enough storm system that it will bring impacts to the Northern Leeward Islands, in
particular, Thursday into Thursday evening. You can see the National Hurricane Center's forecast track calls for a strengthening tropical storm
to a Category 1 hurricane by Friday morning.
In particular, if you're located across, let's say Antigua, Barbuda, perhaps into Guadeloupe, St. Kitts, or into the St. Martin region. This is
where we have tropical storm watches that are in effect for the increasing likelihood of at least squally weather that could bring tropical storm
conditions to these, again, northern Leeward Islands.
Maybe some heavier rainfall into the U.S., British Virgin Islands, and we're going to exclude direct impacts from Puerto Rico's forecast. That's
good news. Here's our forecast rainfall accumulation. Here's the Northern Leeward Islands, anywhere from three to four inches of rain as some of
these squalls move through.
Again. Timing for that would be Thursday into Friday morning, as the system veers to the north and east moves away from Bermuda and out to the open
ocean. Now we talk about storm systems that don't need to be named, don't need to be hurricanes, and don't need to necessarily make landfall.
Well, look what's developing on the East Coast of the U.S. I'm going to point this into your view here, because we do have an East Coast storm
system that will bring significant coastal impacts and gusty winds this weekend to the outer banks. So, we're going to look for that area for the
potential of more coastal erosion, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: All right, you've been very busy, as always.
DAM: Yeah.
GOLODRYGA: Meteorologist Derek Van Dam, thank you so much.
DAM: You got it.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Bob Ross dedicated his life to teaching art on public television. Now his paintings will be used to help keep those stations from
shutting down. We'll explain how. That's coming up next.
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GOLODRYGA: The Nobel Prize in Chemistry has been awarded to a trio of researchers for the development of metal organic frameworks. Their work has
been likened to Hermione Granger's handbag in the Harry Potter series, appearing small on the outside but large on the inside.
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That's because the researchers developed frameworks that can store huge amounts of gas in a tiny volume, which can be used for things like
harvesting water from desert air or capturing carbon dioxide. And finally, Artist Bob Ross is known for his soft-spoken creativity on public
television, trees, clouds and birds became famous with his beautiful art.
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BOB ROSS, ARTIST: That's our secret, OK? See, painting's fun. Should always make you happy. Put a load, a little more color on the brush.
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Soft voice, loud hair. Well, now his paintings have been auctioned to help support public TV stations after the Trump Administration's federal funding
cuts. The President of Bob Ross Inc., says this auction ensures Ross' legacy continues to support the very medium that made his art accessible to
everyone.
A total of 30 paintings will be sold at various auctions. Great Story to end the hour on Tuesday with CNN. I'll have more "One World" after the
break.
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