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Celebrations in Gaza and Israel after Announcement of Deal; Israeli Officials: Ceasefire to Take Effect Immediately after Israeli Government Approves the Deal; Cases Involve Troops being Sent to Portland, Oregon and Chicago, Illinois; Courts to Hear Dueling Cases about Trump's Guard Deployment; Israel and Hamas Agree to First Phase of Gaza Ceasefire Plan with Key Issues still to be Resolved; Nobel Prize in Literature goes to Laszlo Krasznahorkai. Aired 11a-12p ET

Aired October 09, 2025 - 11:00   ET

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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Hello, everyone. Live from New York. I'm Bianna Golodryga.

ZAIN ASHER, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: And I'm Zain Asher. You are watching "One World". We are standing by this hour for the U.S. President to hold a

Cabinet meeting amid tensions over the government shutdown and National Guard deployment to U.S. cities we'll bring that to you once it starts.

GOLODRYGA: Now this, of course, comes on the heels of a major announcement by President Trump, and that is Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first

phase of a U.S. brokered ceasefire plan after two years for brutal war in Gaza following the horrific attacks of October 7th.

Now the ceasefire takes effect immediately after the Israeli government approves President Trump's 20-point plan. The security cabinet is meeting

right now, the full cabinet is likely to approve the truce agreement, despite opposition from Benjamin Netanyahu's right-wing allies.

Israeli forces will then begin a partial withdrawal to an agreed upon line within 24 hours, Hamas will then have 72 hours to release the remaining

hostages, living and dead. In exchange, Israel will free hundreds of Palestinian prisoners serving life sentences, along with 1700 people from

Gaza detained after the October 7th attacks. The deal means that aid deliveries will flow back into Gaza as well.

ASHER: Yeah. A note of caution, several sticking points have yet to be resolved, including a future government for Gaza and the disarmament of

Hamas.

GOLODRYGA: Meantime, explosions were heard in Gaza Thursday morning, despite the deal and Israeli tanks opened fire in at least one part of the

Enclave.

ASHER: Now, the IDF told CNN the tanks were firing smoke bombs to keep people away from Israel's forces. Gaza's civil defense is also issuing a

warning to people in the south, telling them not to return home.

GOLODRYGA: News of the long-awaited deal sparked jubilation among both Israelis and Palestinians. In Gaza people danced, sang and cheered, hoping

for an end to the bloodshed that has killed some 67,000 Palestinians over two years. All of the world is happy, said one young man.

ASHER: Yeah, there were similar scenes of joy in Israel, where hundreds gathered in Tel Aviv's Hostage Square to celebrate former hostages and the

families of those still held captive in Gaza joined the crowds hugging and singing.

Senior White House Reporter Kevin Liptak is standing by for us at the White House, but let's begin our coverage with Jeremy Diamond, who is in Hostage

Square in Tel Aviv, Israel. So, Jeremy, let me start with you. And I really do want to talk about what this moment, what this moment in time, really

means for the hostage families, because, of course, all of them, I'm sure, are breathing this sort of welcome sigh of relief.

But you know, false hope is a very painful thing, and a lot of these families, over the past two years, have been through hell. They've been

through so much disappointment, it's almost difficult for them to even allow themselves to hope this time. But it looks as though we are very,

very close to seeing these hostages come home once again. Just walk us through what this moment in time means for them, Jeremy.

JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, I've been in Hostage Square so many times over the course of the last two years, where we have

seen, you know, the tears of people who are suffering, tears of anguish, cries raising up, their voices, demanding that the Israeli government do

all it can to get those hostages back.

And today, the scenes of emotion are very different. The tears that we have been seeing today in Hostage Square and last night, as some of the families

of those hostages set to be released came here were tears of joy and sighs of relief. This is a moment that has that people here have been waiting

for, for more than two years now.

And the scenes that you are seeing behind me are thousands of Israelis who have come out to share in this moment of joy and hope that so many are

finally allowing themselves to feel after we saw President Trump announcing this phase one agreement to end the war in Gaza and get all of those

hostages back.

And when the President of the United States is getting on the phone directly with some of those families, as he -- as he now has to tell them

that their loved ones are coming home.

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I think many of the hostage families are finally allowing themselves to believe that it has indeed come true.

Now, of course, they will still be holding their breaths until they actually come out of Gaza, something that could happen as early as this

weekend or perhaps on Monday, according to various officials involved in these details. We know that some of the formal steps still do indeed need

to go through, but they will come through in the coming hours.

We are still waiting for the Israeli Cabinet to actually convene and formally vote to approve this agreement, but we don't expect any hang ups

on that front. And once the Israeli government approves this deal, an immediate ceasefire will take effect in the Gaza Strip.

We will begin to see Israeli troops withdrawing from parts of Gaza moving back to lines of control within the Gaza Strip in order to allow for that

release of Israeli hostages, which will follow in the 72 hours after this agreement is formally approved.

And of course, so much is riding on all of this going smoothly because beyond the release of the hostages, Hamas, we have heard from the

Egyptians, we have heard from the Qataris, all making clear that, even though the Israelis and the Americans are making clear this is phase one of

this agreement, all of the other parties to this deal are saying that this will mark an end to the war in Gaza, an end of so much suffering that has

taken place over the course of the last two years.

And today, indeed, Israelis and Palestinians united in the hope of a better future, united in this collective sigh of relief that we can really feel

throughout this region right now.

GOLODRYGA: I have stood in Hostage Square where you are right now, Jeremy, for a number of visits since October 7th. And even during times of hope

when we did see other hostages return, there was always heartbreak as well for the remaining hostages in Gaza.

And this is the first time you see a scene where there is nothing but jubilation and joy, as you see Israeli flags, American flags there knowing

that all of the hostages, both the living and the deceased, will now finally be back in Israel, reunited with their families, and there are few

people, Jeremy Diamond, who are more popular in Israel right now than Donald Trump.

And the president is going to be holding a Cabinet meeting at any moment. We will bring that to you live when it begins. But Kevin, if you can just

talk to our viewers about how the president has involved himself in these negotiations? And how he is responding to news of a deal right now as he is

planning a trip himself to the region in the coming days?

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah, and I think it's clear the president wants to mark this historic moment in the region where it's

happening, and we should learn some more about the president's intentions to travel to the Middle East when he begins this cabinet meeting within the

next couple of minutes.

But this has been something of a tortured road for him. You know, he started trying to broker these peace agreements even before he came into

office. There have been starts and stops and trips down rabbit holes in the president now at last reaching some sort of conclusion, at least to the

first phase of this.

And I think it's been clear over the last several weeks that the president had grown both frustrated at his attempts that hadn't been going anywhere,

but also convinced that his leverage over the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was at a high point, particularly after Israel's strikes against

Hamas Leaders in Qatar.

The president really did view that as an overreach, and used the ensuing several weeks to try and bring all of these sides together. It was after

those strikes that his Foreign Envoy, Steve Witkoff, his son in law, Jared Kushner, sort of compiled this 20-point plan that eventually became the

framework which the president is celebrating today.

And I think it's evident throughout all of this that the president was sort of willing this into reality, sort of casting aside some of the misgivings

among all sides that this was the deal that would work. You know that one point, for example, Arab Leaders thought Israel had made too many changes

to this, the president essentially cast those aside when those countries suggested that he not release the plan publicly, he did it anyway.

And the Arab Leaders got on board. Then when Hamas responded essentially with a yes, but not essentially endorsing every point of that plan,

Netanyahu was a little bit more negative than the president, and the president essentially told him, get on board, stop the bombing, and get

this deal over the finish line, and that is part of what they did.

But at the same time, neither the president nor officials in this building will say that this is the end of the road. There are a lot of issues still

to be debated, whether it's how Hamas disarms, whether it's what a governance exists in Gaza going forward, all of that still needs to be

discussed.

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President sort of acknowledged some of this last night when he called in to Fox News. Listen to how he described this council that he will Chair about

post war Gaza.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I think you're going to see all of that disappear. I think you're going to see people

getting along, and you'll see Gaza being rebuilt. We're forming a council that the Council of Peace. We think it's going to be called and is going to

be very powerful.

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LIPTAK: So, you hear the president there talking about the Council of Peace. Yes, there are a lot of questions going forward. Yes, I think it's

an open debate of whether this is the end to the war or whether this is just another pause in a conflict that's going on for several decades. But

what is evident is that it is, I think, the biggest diplomatic accomplishment of the president's second term so far, and he is clearly

very eager to mark the moment.

ASHER: All right, Kevin Liptak and Jeremy Diamond, thank you both so much. Appreciate it.

GOLODRYGA: And from some more perspective, let's bring in Israeli Journalist Amit Segal. He is the Chief Political Commentator for Israeli

Channel 12, and the Author of the newsletter, "It's noon in Israel", and he joins us from Jerusalem.

Amit, this is the first time that I can actually welcome you with a huge smile on our face. We have some really good news to cover at last, after

two horrific years, 734 days of anguish, we've seen Israel and Hamas agree to this ceasefire deal. You've seen signs and images of joy in Israel and

in the streets of Gaza. Just if you can give us your perspective there in Israel, having covered all of this, how significant is this moment right

now emotionally, militarily for Israel?

AMIT SEGAL, ISRAELI JOURNALIST: It's a dramatic moment of victory, but first and foremost, it's an emotional moment. I'll give you just one

example. On the way to the studio very early in the morning, I heard the news broadcaster, and something was peculiar about the broadcast.

So, I thought for a second maybe it's not stereo or something like this. Maybe there is a problem. And then I got it for the first time in two

years, there was the sentiment of pure joy in the air from the radio. For the last two years, Israel has marked many achievements, dramatic

achievements in Iran, Lebanon, Gaza, but there was always something there the hostages, and once they are out, in 72 hours from now, everyone is so

happy to put this tragic chapter to an end.

ASHER: And Amit, just from the sort of Palestinian perspective here, I mean, obviously there is cautious optimism. Gaza, of course, has been

ravaged by two years of war. We've seen the video of buildings being completely decimated. We all know about the fact that the Enclave is on the

brink of famine, and people there are really suffering.

There's a lot of cautious optimism that phase one will, of course, come to pass. But the real issue is really about phase two. This idea that somehow

a temporary ceasefire could end up leading to some kind of permanent cessation of hostilities, especially when you think about the sticking

points of Hamas laying down its weaponry.

And there's a lot of fear that Netanyahu himself might sabotage this deal in terms of it going from phase one to ending up at phase two. Are those

fears on the Palestinian side justified do you think Amit?

SEGAL: So, first of all, I think it's not a cycle of violence, but a violence that began on October 7th. Gaza was a very peaceful place at a

time, and they decided to attack Israel to kill 1200 Israelis, with the support of almost each and every Gaza.

I heard before in the report by your one of your correspondents, that the Gaza children are hoping to be back in school, and I have to say, I really

hope that they don't come back to the schools where they were taught incitement, hatred, anti-Semitism, to murder people, were the math teachers

thought that how they taught first graders that Muhammad killed four Zionist pigs in Ahmed five Zionist pigs. So how much is it all together?

I do hope that the plan set by President Trump will change Gaza once and for all, and the deal says as follows. Israel withdrawal versus

demilitarization, disarmament and putting an end to the Hamas regime in Gaza. Now, Israel controls 53 percent of the Gaza Strip, and it will

withdraw once Hamas actually demilitarize itself, or demilitarized by the Emirati force.

However, if it does not happen, and we have all the reasons to suspect that Hamas is a murderous terrorist organization, will not be willing to give up

the weapons and tunnels.

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The IDF will be there to guarantee that no one ever tried to behead, rape and kill Israeli citizens who just want to live peacefully.

GOLODRYGA: Amit, we also heard President Trump last night on Fox News describe his conversation with Prime Minister Netanyahu in essentially

saying, I told him, now is time to end the war you can't fight to the world right now. And highlighted the fact that Israel, while it may have been

achieving military wins, has really been isolated from much of the Western world over the last two years.

I do want to ask you about the timing, because, as we know, especially given U.S. pressure, Hamas has turned down better deals for them than this

one that they just agreed to overnight. What, in your view, changed?

SEGAL: So, I would say, and I think we spoke about it on September 7th, the day that Israel tried to assassinate Hamas Leadership in Doha, that this is

a crucial moment in the history of the Middle East and the war in Gaza, even if the assassination failed. And it failed, but it was the most

successful failed assassination attempt that I know.

Why? Because it signaled Qatar, the funder, the patron of Hamas, that it cannot get away with supporting Hamas. And President Trump, I think it's

quite clear for everyone that President Trump supported and greenlighted this assassination attempt, although he tried to differentiate himself

after.

However, this conclusion made by Qatar, alongside with the Israeli invasion into Gaza City, the last fortress of Hamas inside Gaza Strip signaled that

something here is different from intelligence report. The reports that I read, I see that Hamas was horrified by the Israel invasion to Gaza City.

Why? Because they were under the impression that Israel is willing to give up the hostages. The number one asset of Hamas, the Israeli live hostages

was about to fade away, and that's the reason they decided to actually give it up. Unlike everyone thought in the first place, this is it.

And if we take a look at the last two years, we know now something Israel's invasion into Gaza was not a win. It was in purpose to prevent others

October 7th from happening. Now, for the first time, there was an offer that allows Israel to stay in Gaza Strip in the perimeter, as long as Hamas

does not dismantle itself.

Once it was achieved and the hostages were not an ammunition in order to guarantee to be an insurance policy for the survival of Hamas as a

terrorist regime, the deal was set.

ASHER: And then, as Bianna was talking about, there, you know, Israel standing over the past two years on the world stage. I mean, it's really

taken a blow, as I'm sure you know. Many of the Israelis that I've spoken to have been really heartbroken by a lot of the images, seeing innocent

Palestinian women, children, families, suffering with no clear end to the war in sight.

As you point out, it is highly possible that Hamas isn't going to lay down its arms anytime soon, but at the same time, Israel's stated goal from the

beginning, in terms of dismantling and destroying Hamas is a very, very difficult goal to achieve. So, based on those two things, what does an end

to this war actually look like?

We know that a lot of European countries are very much focused now on the potential, even though it seems very far-fetched in my eyes, of some kind

of political solution that involves a two-state solution soon. That's what a lot of European countries are focused on.

But this idea of Hamas potentially not giving up its weapons and at the same time Israel's goal of dismantling and destroying Hamas, which is

highly unlikely, in my view, how does this war eventually come to an end?

SEGAL: So, Israel's presence in inside Gaza Strip, 53 percent of the Gaza Strip territory, to be precise, is exactly the insurance policy that is

supposed to ensure Hamas being dismantled. If it doesn't happen, the IDF forces will be there to protect Israeli citizens from getting massacred by

Hamas.

I'm not sure, or I'm quite sure, Hamas is not interested in the two-state solution, and I think it was a prize for Hamas. I think Hamas is interested

in one fundamentalist Muslim State in which Jews and Christians are massacred, exactly as happened in those devastating six hours of October

7th.

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In the far future, I see an encouraging promise in the decision of the Emiratis to try and reform the Palestinian education system so it does not

educate or does not poison the minds of young Palestinians. I think this is a necessary, yet not sufficient ingredient condition to do, to read, to a

peaceful future in the Middle East.

As long as it does not happen the last two years have taught Israel that the only guarantee to save the lives of Israelis is the force of the IDF,

and many Israelis feel very sorry for the life, for the loss of life in Gaza. However, it did not emanate from an Israeli -- decision to just kill

as many Palestinians as it wishes, but form a massacre.

No one in Israel was really interested in October 7th -- on October 6th, 2023 in invading Gaza and killing as many Palestinians as possible. This

was the outcome. And the outcome was that Israel had to eliminate Hamas, which actually located headquarters behind hospitals and kindergartens and

schools, et cetera.

GOLODRYGA: Amid, quickly we were running out of time. But assuming that the reports have been accurate and perhaps overstated about the amount of

pressure and the distance between Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump to get here, it is pretty clear that President Trump ultimately made

the decision that the war needs to come to an end.

And Prime Minister Netanyahu didn't have many other options, given that and given that elections, Israeli elections are scheduled for next year, and

they could come even sooner than October of next year. What is the likelihood, from what you're hearing, that President Trump has already

suggested to Prime Minister Netanyahu that the sooner you end this war, the sooner you'll have my continued support in those next elections?

SEGAL: Over the last five years of the Trump two terms, we heard many times that they had -- they've had tension the relationship. However, when it

comes to results, they are the most coordinated leaders of Israel in the U.S. in the history of the two countries. The results were attacking Iran's

nuclear facilities, greenlighting the Israeli and Iran.

Giving out Israel to fight Gaza. I do think, like we talked last week, that this so-called American Trump plan is an Israeli plan, orchestrated and

written by Prime Minister Netanyahu and Minister Ron Dermer en wrapped in an American package. That's my knowledge. And from what I see, I don't see

anything that can actually prove something else, at least so far.

GOLODRYGA: All right, Amit Segal, a historic moment for all in the region today. Thank you so much for joining us.

ASHER: Thank you, Amit.

SEGAL: Thank you.

GOLODRYGA: And up next on "One World" Donald Trump's deployment of the National Guard is it legal? That question is being asked in two different

courtrooms today.

ASHER: Plus, the local angle on national issue. We'll talk to reporters in Chicago and Portland about how their cities are reacting to President

Trump's deployment of the National Guard.

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GOLODRYGA: We're almost exactly one hour from now, in two different courtrooms, some 2000 miles apart, judges will be asked to decide whether

Donald Trump has violated the Constitution by ordering National Guard troops to Democratic cities.

ASHER: Yeah, the separate but very similar cases involved guard deployments to Chicago, Portland, Oregon as well. The Portland case is particularly

significant as it is an appeals court hearing one step below the U.S. Supreme Court.

GOLODRYGA: About 500 guardsmen from Texas and Illinois have arrived in Chicago. President Trump says he needs them there to protect federal

immigration officers who have been facing off with angry protesters. On Wednesday, Trump threatened to arrest the Mayor of Chicago and the Governor

of Illinois for their roles in fighting the guard deployments.

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BRANDON JOHNSON, CHICAGO MAYOR: It's certainly not the first time that Donald Trump has called for the arresting of a black man unjustly. I'm not

going anywhere.

GOV. JB PRITZKER (D-IL): I got to say this guy is unhinged. He's insecure. He's a wannabe dictator. And there's one thing I really want to say to

Donald Trump, if you come for my people, you come through me. So come and get me.

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ASHER: All right, let's take a deeper dive into how this impacts those in both Oregon and in Illinois. Joining us live now from Portland, Oregon is

Reporter Alex Baumhardt of the Oregon Capital Chronicle, and from Springfield, Illinois, we're joined by Jeremy Gorner of the Chicago

Tribune.

Alex, let me begin with you. Just talk to us a bit about how Donald Trump's animosity towards the City of Portland began, because when you think about

why and how Portland became a target, and obviously he talks about it being some kind of war zone, but it's not even in the U.S.'s sort of top 30

largest metro areas.

But he's had a particular challenging time and beef with Portland dating back to his first term. I don't know if Alex can hear me. Can Alex hear me?

Did we miss Alex? Oh, OK. OK, so just in terms of Portland, just talk to us specifically about how this animosity between the U.S. President and

Portland came about?

ALEX BAUMHARDT, REPORTER, OREGON CAPITAL CHRONICLE: In Donald Trump's first term he federalized or sent federal police to the Justice Center in

Downtown Portland, there were protests there in a lot of among many protests in the United States in the aftermath of the police killing of

George Floyd in Minneapolis.

Portland has long been known as protest city. It's a very lively place of free speech, protest, active groups. You know there are a lot of folks here

who are quite progressive. It's a Democratic super majority and a Democratic Governor. And the first time Donald Trump sent troops to

Portland, it went very poorly.

It actually escalated the sort of tension in the number of people who came out so perhaps burned by that we're looking at a repeat so soon after.

GOLODRYGA: And Jeremy, obviously all eyes are not only on Portland, but on Chicago. And the personal vitriol and language exchange between President

Trump and both the mayor there and the Governor, threatening to arrest both of them.

Officials, including the Mayor and Governor, are calling this type of rhetoric and more specifically, the action of sending National Guard troops

to the city and the state dangerous and unconstitutional. You have been covering this for a long time. What specifically are local officials, maybe

even including the police, worried about?

Because you know the president's argument in doing so is what he says is not enough being done to protect ICE agents?

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JEREMY GORNER, REPORTER, CHICAGO TRIBUNE: Yes. So, in 2017 the State of Illinois passed what's called the Trust Act, which has generally prohibited

local law enforcement in Illinois from assisting federal immigration enforcement authorities on deportation matters anything to do with

immigration matters.

However, that doesn't mean that if immigration enforcement agents are, you know, trying to do their job, and let's say they're under distress, you

know, maybe by if -- by protesters -- if there's like an emergency where they fear they're being attacked or are being attacked. That doesn't mean

that, like the Chicago Police Department can't come in and assist in those matters.

We saw that over the weekend when there was a mission from the Border Patrol. They were on the Southwest side of Chicago, and there was some

controversy there about CPDs response. I believe there is a -- I believe it was Border Patrol, a federal immigration enforcement agent shot somebody

who was they said was trying to interfere with their operations there.

Chicago police responded, and there was some talk over the police radio that a high-ranking police official told them to leave. And that, of

course, generated a lot of outrage from officers on the ground because they want to assist immigration agents who are trying to do their jobs their

fellow law enforcement.

So, there's been a lot of a lot local law enforcement's been trying to be very cautious and walk a fine line between. You know, they don't want to

violate this state law or be seen that way. You're also seeing local law enforcement could get involved with immigration authorities if they have

like, a judicial -- like a judicial warrant, though that's a -- you know, another exception.

But what you're also seeing in suburban, broad view, there's an ICE Immigration Customs Enforcement facility in Broadview, just west of the

City of Chicago, where there's been protests for the last several weeks, and protests, there have been some intense clashes between immigration

enforcement officers and protesters.

And that's prompted local officials, like in Broadview, for instance, to step in, because we've seen these agents use pepper balls and like less

lethal like munitions, like tear gas, and local officials are very concerned about that because of the safety of the protesters and the safety

of the residents in their community who live around this facility.

So really, a lot of these local officials to answer your question, I know that's a long-winded answer. Are concerned about a lot of the collateral

damage that could happen, you know, between demonstrators and between the agents and -- you know, if the National Guard actually gets deployed fully

into Chicago in the suburbs.

ASHER: And Alex, just in terms of Kristi Noem and some of the comments that she's made. I mean, she's obviously visited Portland. She spent some time

at the ICE facility there. And she made some controversial comments, essentially intimating that Portland authorities were lying about the level

of crime in their city. Just walk us through what the reaction has been to that from local Oregonians?

BAUMHARDT: I have to say, first and foremost, surreal scene to be on the ground while Kristi Noem was on top of the ICE facility filming her shot

and the reality on the ground, there were as many press as protesters down there, there's a protester in a chicken costume. If that's an insurrection

or a rebellion, then we got bigger issues.

But more broadly, the reaction is how wild the chasm is between the perception being promulgated by federal officials and the reality. And I

think the danger that exists in that chasm is the ways in which these federal officials are using this false narrative to further advance a sort

of larger agenda about federalizing the military in the United States and sending them to cities like Portland, like Chicago.

So, on the ground, kind of like confoundment with the reality, not only that. We're in Portland, we're not in like, you know, a deeply difficult

place to reach on the other side of the world. Donald Trump -- I mean, Kristi Noem was here. She drove through a peaceful city to get there.

She -- they stopped and got burgers on the way. The notion that this is a war zone, a hellscape, it's so far from reality that I think it's honestly

hard for people here to truly comprehend what's being said by their federal officials and what's happening.

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ASHER: My favorite line by you, "If a man in a chicken suit represents an insurrection", we certainly do take a fish to fry. Yes, we do Alex. Yes, we

do.

BAUMHARDT: I have to say the -- you know, in a what, half an hour an appeals court, three judges on a federal appeals court in California are

going to decide whether or not there is an active rebellion in Portland. A U.S. District Court judge here, a Trump appointee herself, already

determined there's not.

In her 30-page opinion, she made very clear the stakes here are the difference between a country under constitutional law or a country under

martial law. Everything happening in Portland is a straw man for this larger effort. I would encourage anybody to read briefs submitted by

Stephen Miller and his American First -- America First Foundation to this appeal on behalf of the federal government.

It doesn't take a law degree to see that the greater argument being made here is a concentration of executive power and a destabilizing of what are

at present, three equal branches of the government. So, I want to be very clear, Portland's not a war zone. It is a straw man for a larger effort by

federal officials to have more leeway to federalize the military.

ASHER: All right, Alex and Jeremy I got a run. Thank you both so much. We're right back with more after the short break.

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ASHER: All right, welcome back to "One World". I'm Zain Asher.

GOLODRYGA: I'm Bianna Golodryga. Here are some of the headlines we're watching today.

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Cheers in Gaza as Israel and Hamas agree to the first phase of a ceasefire deal. The terms outline the release of hostages and some Palestinian

prisoners, as well as Israeli troop withdrawal, the disarmament of Hamas and the future governance of Gaza have not been addressed.

ASHER: And we are standing by this hour for President Trump to hold a Cabinet meeting his eighth by the way, since taking office. It comes on the

heels, of course, Israel and Hamas agreeing to the first phase of the U.S. brokered ceasefire plan. We'll bring that to you once it starts.

GOLODRYGA: Poverty and the plight of migrants are the focus of the first official document of Pope Leo's Papacy. In it, he criticizes what he calls

the dictatorship of global economic inequality. And he calls on Catholics to work on issues of social justice and eradicating what he says are unjust

economic structures.

ASHER: And French President Emmanuel Macron could name a new prime minister by Friday, that's according to the Elysee Palace, the next PM would replace

Sebastien Lecornu on new who stepped down on Monday. The outgoing PM has been holding talks with party leaders and says that most lawmakers oppose a

snap election, and he feels there's consensus emerging over passing a budget.

All right, turning back now to our breaking news, Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first phase of a ceasefire plan in Gaza. News of a long-

awaited ceasefire sparked cheers among Israelis and Palestinians, a sign of hope after two years of agony on both sides, but there's still some

uncertainty and fear that a comprehensive truce may not come to fruition.

GOLODRYGA: The Israeli government is due to meet to approve the agreement. A government spokesperson says a ceasefire will begin after it passes.

CNN's International Diplomatic Editor Nic Robertson joins us now for the latest on the talks in Egypt.

And Nic as we're waiting for that vote from the Israeli government, I believe it was supposed to have already happened. I'm just counting seven

hours ahead from here. Is there any reason to worry about the delay, or is this imminent?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: It doesn't appear to be a reason to worry about it, but apart from the fact that every moment that

there isn't a ceasefire, when in principle, everyone seems to be on board and on track, apart from the signing off by the Security Cabinet in Israel.

People risk injury, and that seemed to be on the mind of President Sisi here when he hosted Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner. And it said to them

that he wanted pressured them, that he wanted the ceasefire to come into effect immediately. But it does seem that we are hours away of this

ceasefire.

And perhaps after that, we've been told to expect a signing here. It's not quite clear what precisely will be signed? What will be said in that

document? But Hamas through the day have been very clear that they believe that this agreement should state very clearly that it's an end to the war,

not just a ceasefire to release the hostages, to release Palestinian prisoners, but an actual formal end to the war.

So, I think Hamas is framing this as important for them, releasing the hostages. But then they also point to international guarantees from the

United States, from the mediation partners who have been involved in these talks all along.

Again, we -- until we see that final document of what is signed, we won't have a full understanding of how much of an act of faith it is by Hamas

that they are giving up the hostages and don't have a locked in ceasefire. I think there is -- there are still gaps in the understanding of how the

ceasefire line that the IDF retreats to over the coming 24 hours.

How then they move back with an international force, stabilization force, coming in, and the responsibilities of that stabilization force, for

example, should Hamas be disarmed ahead of that stabilization force? Or will the responsibility fall to that stabilization force? There are so many

details we just don't have at the moment.

ASHER: Nic, it's quite remarkable that we've finally gotten to this point, because, you know, as well as anyone, there have been months and months of

stalled negotiations, false hopes, false starts. And here we finally are, and it looks as though the hostages are indeed coming home.

For the Palestinians, they are concerned about whether or not, as you touch on, it will go from phase one to phase two? The fact that Donald Trump

himself right, the U.S. President himself, sort of put his own sort of stamp of approval on this deal. How much more does it make it likely that

there could end up being a cessation of hostilities, or somehow getting from phase one to phase two? Give us your take on that.

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ROBERTSON: Everyone's looked and praised President Trump. And everyone, whether it's on this and so many other issues, it's become very clear that

international leaders and others believe the way to get what they want from President Trump is to praise him, and the praise at this moment has been

fulsome, and in part because he has absolutely delivered something no one has delivered before or appears to be on the verge of.

I think perhaps what may keep the hope alive of getting to phase two is that President Trump remains invested in the whole 20-point plan, because

he announced that he said he didn't -- he was busy, and he -- you know, had other things to do than take on this job.

But he announced that he was going to be the Head of the Board of Peace, which is the Board that will oversee the international group that will

secure, provide the stabilization force, provide the transition towards some kind of Palestinian leadership inside of Gaza.

So, in a way, President Trump isn't just invested in making this happen and used his momentum and immense power to make it happen, but he has an

investment, it would appear, at this stage, at least, in continuing to make sure it goes on track. That said he is the sort of president of the board,

and there are plenty of other people.

Tony Blair's name is in there to actually manage the job and maybe take the blame if it doesn't go according to plan.

GOLODRYGA: All right, Nic Robertson, in Cairo for us, thank you so much.

ASHER: Thank you, Nic. All right, stay with us as we continue on breaking news coverage of the ceasefire deal between the Israelis and the

Palestinians. We go live to Paris, where EU and Mideast Foreign Ministers are meeting to go over the plan.

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GOLODRYGA: All right, let's get back to our breaking news coverage of a deal between the Israelis and Palestinians. European Leaders are welcoming

the Gaza ceasefire plan.

ASHER: Foreign Ministers from Europe and the Middle East are meeting in Paris today. I want to go right to our Senior International Correspondent,

Melissa Bell. She's at the French Ministry for Europe and Foreign Affairs in Paris.

So, Melissa a real priority beyond obviously, the ceasefire and beyond, the cessation of hostilities in Gaza a real priority for the Europeans is

certainly some kind of a political solution that would eventually.

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You know, holding on to all hopes here lead to some kind of two state solution walk us through how that has come up today.

MELISSA BELL, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Zain. And I think that is central not only to what had been the French Saudi

initiative, leading to the recognition by so many countries, back in New York in September of the State of Palestine.

But also, that initiative and the inspiration that it gave, say the French, to this 20-point at peace plan that we're now looking at. I think the point

of this meeting is what we heard over and over again today, is to keep those voices that were part of that initiative, part of that conversation,

European, Arab neighbors of Israel, involved in what happens the day after.

Specifically, Zain to your point that you just made on the importance of keeping the Palestinian Authority involved in the governance of Gaza. So,

the meeting here today is looking at things like security in Gaza, things like reconstruction, humanitarian aid, but also governance, with an

insistence, we've just been hearing from the French President about this, on the fact not only that a reformed Palestinian Authority needs to be put

back in charge of Gaza.

But that this is what will allow that Palestinian State to come about. Also, very critical just now President Macron about the settlements in the

West Bank and the threat that they represent to Palestinian Statehood. So, you're quite right to point out that this is a very political side to what

will now be discussed in Gaza going forward.

We heard earlier today, in fact, from Gideon Saar the Israeli Foreign Minister, tweeting from Sharm El-Sheik, the fury of Israelis that the fact

that this meeting was being held today in Paris, accusing the French of doing so to distract from their own domestic political turmoil and

insisting on the fact that nothing could be done without the organization and the involvement of Israel.

Now the French say Israeli and Palestinian voices were involved in this meeting, simply none were present. Another notable absence, Marco Rubio,

who is due to be here and is not. But we expect to hear more from what comes out of this meeting.

But certainly, an insistence, not just that all of these parties, European, Arab will be involved in the post peace Gaza, in terms of its security on

the ground, keeping the peace, training Palestinian forces so that they can keep the peace in the Gaza Strip. But also, more than that, its governance

and how to keep the Palestinian a reformed Palestinian Authority at the center of that Zain and Bianna.

ASHER: Melissa Bell live for us. Thank you. We'll be right back with more.

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ASHER: All right, finally, this hour, the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize in Literature has been awarded to Laszlo, help me out.

GOLODRYGA: Krasznahorkai.

ASHER: Thank you. The Nobel Committee announced it earlier at the Swedish Academy in Stockholm.

GOLODRYGA: It is Hungarian name, so thus it is very difficult. Now my Mary name, my husband --

ASHER: He said European.

GOLODRYGA: -- so my husband is Hungarian. And -- is much easier to pronounce that name. But congratulations to the winner. He is best known

for his apocalyptic novels with dense descriptions, often set in Central European villages. The committee praised him for his compelling and

visionary body of work. That quote, in the midst of apocalyptic terror, reaffirms the power of art.

All right. Well, stay with us. We'll have more "One World" after the break, including President Trump's expected Cabinet meeting. It's about one hour

late now. We will bring it to you live when that begins.

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