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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: Answers, a federal judge in Chicago says the Trump administration doesn't seem to be following her orders.

The second hour of One World starts right now,

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DONALD TRUMP, U.S. PRESIDENT: Army, Navy, bring them in, Marines, bring in the Marines. They just want the crime to stop.

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GOLODRYGA: Experts say ICE agents are using aggressive tactics to bolster arrests. Shocking new video shows an American citizen tackled to the ground

in front of a pharmacy.

Plus, making room for A.I. The world's biggest food company is slashing 16,000 jobs, and part of the reason is because of automation.

Also ahead, police in Kenya turned thousands of mourners into a crowd of chaos.

And later, reporting for duty, one-on-one with a star of one of Netflix's hottest new shows.

Hello, everyone live from New York. I'm Bianna Golodryga. Zain is off today. You are watching the second hour of One World.

We begin with the flurry of developments surrounding Donald Trump's crackdown on undocumented migrants. A federal judge on Thursday said she

has serious concerns that the Trump administration is ignoring her order to avoid violent encounters with protesters in Chicago. She has ordered

federal agents to wear body cameras to record their actions.

And a separate judge in Chicago is ordering immigration officers to stop making arrests at local courthouses. The judge says, the presence of agents

at court is discouraging people from showing up as witnesses.

Facebook's parent company, Meta, has agreed to take down a page that was tracking the movements of ICE agents around Chicago. The Department of

Justice has been press pressuring tech companies to remove apps and pages that help identify ICE agents.

And a judge has extended a ban on Trump sending National Guard troops to Portland for two more weeks. The judge's original ban was set to expire

this weekend.

And we have a hard example today of the kind of activity in Chicago that has judges concerned. A shocking video has emerged of immigration officers

tackling a man and arresting him even though he's a U.S. citizen. The incident happened after a Border Patrol vehicle collided with a car and the

car's occupants scattered.

Here's a video.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's a citizen. He's a citizen. He's a citizen. He's a citizen. That's my brother-in-law.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) get away from me. You don't know what's going on, so get the (INAUDIBLE) back.

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GOLODRYGA: CNN Law Enforcement Correspondent Whitney Wild is tracking all of this from Chicago for us. So, we heard that officer and the expletive

say, you don't know what's going on. So, what more have we learned about what led to that arrest?

WHITNEY WILD, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: Well, as you had mentioned, this happened after Border Patrol was chasing two people, they

say, ran after an enforcement operation. Let me just kind of walk you through the step by step of how they got there.

This was Tuesday morning and according to DHS, Border Patrol was conducting an enforcement operation when they were rammed by a vehicle containing two

targets of that enforcement operation that they say were here illegally.

After that happened, there was a chase. They used what's called a pit maneuver to immobilize that vehicle. Both suspects jumped out and then they

ran. As Border Patrol was chasing those suspects, they went into the Walgreens. That is when a Chicago woman began recording. She recorded, you

know, quite a bit of them running through the Walgreens. Verbally, she was confronting Border Patrol agents. And then you see later Border Patrol

agents detaining that man who she says is her boyfriend. And as you hear her, she's saying, he's a U.S. citizen. What are you doing? He's a U.S.

citizen. That man was detained, but he was released later that day.

Bianna, it is an example of how the public and these federal agents are reacting to one another throughout the city. We've seen several flare-ups

between federal agents and members of the public after incidents happen, after accidents happen, after an arrest happens. It is highlighting how

tense the situation here is.

That day was, as we look at sort of the timeline here, a significant day, because what we know happened later was that there were confrontations

between the public and other federal agents. Those in that confrontation, DHS and Chicago police say that members of the public were throwing objects

at federal agents, federal agents, detonated chemical agents into the crowd, chemical munitions. That -- you know, usually that's like pepper

spray, you can't see, you can't breathe.

The people who were exposed were not just members of the public but members of the Chicago Police Department who were not prepared for other law

enforcement to use those chemical munitions while they didn't have masks on.

That was a huge story around here, Bianna. And a federal judge saw that and hauled the DOJ into court today to explain themselves. Why? Because she had

already put a restraining order on federal agent's ability to use chemical munitions in a peaceful protest. And so she is very concerned that this

restraining order she'd already put on federal agent's actions was being pretty blatantly violated. That hearing happened today.

Let me just read you a quote from that hearing, Bianna, because I think it's important. She said, I'm a little startled, frankly, that since

Thursday when I entered this temporary restraining order, that she was seeing images, seeing images on the news, in the paper, reading reports

where at least from what she was seeing, she says, I'm having serious concerns that my order is being followed.

She was supposed to have a report entered into her court today to lay out how federal agents were going to react within the constitutionality, you

know, when dealing with the crowd. That -- again, that report was due today. She's very upset and wants to see more members from DHS more leaders

in her courtroom on Monday to explain themselves, Bianna.

But, again, the big picture here, the public is tense. These federal agents are tense. These things are ending up in court and judges are frustrated as

well. Back to you.

GOLODRYGA: Right. And that's where confusion can possibly and chaos lead to unintended consequences and more violence.

Whitney, is this the same judge who then ordered these ICE agents to wear body cam videos that must be turned on.

WILD: Yes, that's right.

GOLODRYGA: All right.

WILD: That's all part of the same temporary restraining order. So, what she had said today was all of these federal agents who are involved in

Operation Midway Blitz, that ICE enforcement operation that has been touted by the Trump administration, every single agent she wants with a body

camera and it must be recording.

I think it is important to note that is not far from what we have seen already. We have seen Border Patrol agents who are wearing body cameras,

who are recording. Some of that video has already been entered in other court cases. So, they're already doing this. But she wants to make sure

everyone is doing it.

GOLODRYGA: To have it all documented. All right, Whitney Wild, thank you so much.

Well, President Trump is dramatically escalating tensions with Venezuela and warning that there could be more to come. The Venezuelan government is

now firing back, accusing the U.S. of violating international law and trying to orchestrate regime change in the country. But President Nicolas

Maduro also made a plea for peace.

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NICOLAS MADURO, VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT: No to regime change, which reminds us so much of the endless failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and so

on. Note to CIA orchestrated coup d'etat.

Listen to me, not where that speech, the people United States. The part that the people (INAUDIBLE) republic.

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GOLODRYGA: Making a plea of both Venezuelans and obviously in English there to the White House. Those remarks coming after the U.S. president

confirmed that he had authorized the CIA to carry out covert action inside of Venezuela and then suggested that land attacks may follow. Trump also

refused to directly answer whether he was trying to topple the Maduro government.

Now, it comes one day after the president announced a fifth deadly strike on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean that have already killed a reported

27 people. Newly awarded Nobel Peace Prize winner and Venezuelan opposition leader is asking Trump for greater help in unseating Maduro.

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MARIA CORINA MACHADO, VENEZUELAN OPPOSITION LEADER AND NOBEL PEACE PRIZE LAUREATE: Venezuela right now is a safe haven, where Hezbollah, Hamas, the

drug cartels, the Colombian guerilla operate freely, and they are part of this liaison with our regime. And what we have done, the Venezuelan people,

as I said, is already mandated regime change. We won and we need help to enforce that decision. And that help comes in terms of applying, enforcing

the law, cutting those flows that come from these criminal activities.

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GOLODRYGA: CNN en Espanol's Juan Carlos Lopez joins me now live in Washington. So, Juan, just explain to us the reaction within Venezuela as

to the escalation that we're seeing in the now war of words between President Trump and President Maduro.

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JUAN CARLOS LOPEZ, CNN EN ESPANOL U.S. POLITICAL DIRECTOR AND ANCHOR: For the past few weeks, Bianna, people have been shrugging off all the

headlines and the threats that come from Washington. But now when they hear that President Trump says that he's going from the sea to land, this

creates a different scenario.

Just so you understand the mind frame that Venezuela must be in right now, Maduro moved Christmas up to October 1st. So, Caracas already has Christmas

lights. They're already celebrating Christmas. And this is something they've done in the past to try to distract people from the tension of

possible military attack.

Now, sources have said that the CIA covert operations would be focusing on gathering intelligence because they don't have a deep knowledge of what's

happening in the country. But the question is, what would a land operation mean inside of Venezuela? Historically, Venezuela has been seen as a

transit point for drugs, not a production center of drugs. So who would they attack? Where would the attacks happen? Would it be against the

presidential pass? Where would it happen? A lot of questions that Venezuelans are worrying about and focusing on the economic crisis the

country is going through.

But right now, they're being told it's Christmas, to celebrate, to have a good time and to just wait and see. And there's something interesting that

might also worry Venezuelans. The Colombian president, Gustavo Petro, left- leaning president, distanced himself from Maduro yesterday and from his government after this announcement. So, it's probably not the best of times

for people in Venezuela facing an economic crisis, facing instability, facing security issues and now the threat of a possible military action

from the U.S.

GOLODRYGA: And with the opposition leader now publicly asking for Trump to do more, do you think that will encourage the president actually to double

down on these types of actions that we're seeing, not only at sea, but as he's threatened to do on land as well?

LOPEZ: It is not the first time she does it, and that other opposition leaders have asked Washington to do more. There were even calls for a

military invasion of Venezuela. What's different now is that last week, President Trump told one of his main advisers, Richard Grenell, to cease

all contact with the Madura regime. He had been the go-between and had been able to secure some negotiations, the release of Americans that were

detained the U.S. considered illegally in Venezuela. And now those contexts are gone. And there are those within the Trump administration who favor

military action and who think they can keep the pressure up to make Maduro leave.

Now, you heard Machado mentioning there was an election last year, the Maduro regime lost, but they didn't acknowledge the results. So, this is a

pressure campaign. The question is, will it take another step? And if it does, how will it go and what consequences would this have for Venezuelans

and for the opposition?

GOLODRYGA: Big questions remain. Juan Carlos Lopez, thank you so much.

Well, opposition to Donald Trump's policies has reached as far as Southern Africa. Eswatini residents concerned about U.S. deportees sent under a

White House deal. Earlier this month, Eswatini accepted ten U.S. deportees even though they have no links to the country. It's the second group sent

to the small African country as part of Trump's hard line immigration policies and residents are uneasy about the policy. Here's what one had to

say.

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ZAKITHI SIBANDZE, COORDINATOR, RURAL WOMEN'S ASSEMBLY: Among the Deportees were individuals with criminal cases related to gender-based violence,

which is deeply concerning to us. We worry about the risk of escape and potential harm in our homes.

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GOLODRYGA: But a human rights lawyer is fighting back. Mzwandile Masuku filed a court case against the Eswatini government claiming the deportation

deal with Washington is unconstitutional, and he joins me now. Thank you so much, Mr. Masuku, for joining us.

You fought for due process and for rule of law in Eswatini. From a legal standpoint, both from domestic law and international, is what we've seen

the U.S. try to do, is that legal?

MZWANDILE MASUKU, HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER: Well, good evening from Swaziland. Good morning to you, Bianna. What I can tell you is that (INAUDIBLE) what

is happening is in (INAUDIBLE). In terms of everybody has a right to process, protection of our (INAUDIBLE) and that questioning. We must also

(INAUDIBLE), and we brought this to court to get a determination that protect not only --

GOLODRYGA: Sorry, we must be having some -- I'm sorry to step in. We must be having some technical difficulties. It is very difficult to hear you.

We're going to take a quick break and try to work that connection out and hopefully resume the conversation after the break.

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We'll be right back.

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GOLODRYGA: Okay. I think we've worked on fix the connection issue with Mzwandile Masuku. He is joining us now live again from Eswatini. Thank you

so much. Apologies for that issue.

So, let's just pick up where we left off because the U.S. has deported at ten people from various countries, none of them from Eswatini. And I asked

you both, under domestic and international law, can Eswatini even detain and accept these deportees that are not citizens? And if so, under what

justification?

MASUKU: Thank you very much, Bianna. As I was saying in terms of our law, we have protections that are guaranteed by our Constitution to everybody

that is within the Kingdom of Eswatini. And these protections are accorded both Swazis and any individual that is found in the country. And also

international law protects individuals from arbitrary use of power and the recognition of human rights.

So, from the point of view that we come from, we filed the application to test and to bring to the court's attention this exercise of executive

authority so that the state is questioned on whether it followed and is in compliance with our law.

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And that is the test that we bring to our courts.

GOLODRYGA: Some of the first detainees were reportedly held in solitary confinement at correctional facilities. What does that tell you about how

the deal is being implemented and what concerns do you have about any rights that they've been afforded?

MASUKU: Well, the starting point is one of our players (ph) in the application is that we would want the agreement to be made public so that

we are clear on the terms of the agreement. Part of the players include also finding out under was law and authority these deportees were brought

into the country, whether they followed immigration laws.

And you will recall we filed an application trying to bring these individuals to court so we could ascertain whether they know the

circumstances around they're being brought here, where they are, whether they are being cared for.

But what we know for sure is that they're kept at the maximum correctional facility in Swaziland. And we are being denied access to them and they are

being denied our attempts. We have made attempts to try and reach them or to have them brought to court so we could establish these issues, but we

have been denied all of that so far.

And that is our concern. We do not know how they are kept. What we do know is that our correctional facilities are overcrowded. What we do know is

that they are old and in need of rehabilitation in the main what we do know is that we haven't had access, they haven't been given access to legal

representation so that their rights could be asserted.

I can also tell you for a fact that for one to be in a facility, we would expect that they would've breached a law domestically, or a Swazi national

that breached the law internationally, and there's an agreement between the two countries. And in this case of these individuals, we're not aware of

any of that. And so that is why we would want our courts to vent (ph) this issue.

GOLODRYGA: Well, as you noted, the terms of the deal have not been released or revealed publicly. Why do you think there's so much secrecy

surrounding it?

MASUKU: You see that in itself causes great concern. We are supposed to be living in an era where transparency is not an elusive practice. There are a

lot of issues here. In part, we must determine whether the agreements followed due process, but also we must determine whether there is financial

benefit from this agreement. If there is financial benefit, one would want to find out who is making a financial benefit out of this agreement. Does

the benefit come to the fiscals of the country?

But I must say, even though that might be the case, it leaves quite a bitter test taste in knowing that in this day and age we are engaging in a

practice where human lives are exchange for financial benefit. That smacks of a history that the world has fought for many years to do away with. And

so where there's a benefit and humans are trafficked from one continent to the other without clear agreements and terms being made public as to what

emanates or what the result is or where they will end up, then one questions the involvement in such agreements. I can tell you for a fact

that our members of parliament were not aware of it, and it's a question for us.

GOLODRYGA: Yes, that is notable that your own elected officials weren't aware of this deal.

Mzwandile Masuku, thank you so much for the time. We'll stay on this story.

Well, the struggle is not yet over. That's the word from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who spoke earlier at a ceremony honoring those

who have been lost since October 7th, 2023. He promised to keep up the fight against terrorism and help rebuild the Israeli communities near Gaza

that were devastated by two years of war. This as the tension between Israel and Hamas continues to simmer.

So far, Hamas has returned just 9 of the 28 deceased hostages. Hamas says that it has released all the bodies it can access, but Israel is pressing

for the rest and is accusing Hamas of lying about that.

In the last hour I spoke with the parents of Omer Neutra, who still have not been able to bury their son.

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RONEN NEUTRA, OMER NEUTRA'S FATHER: Enough is enough. We are asking the United States as the broker here to put all the pressure on Turkey, Egypt

and Qatar to force Hamas to release all the hostages they have. We don't know if they have more, if they're playing a game.

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We know they're in breach of a contract. The agreement said that they had to release all the names and they had to give all the hostages they had in

their possession. That hasn't been done.

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GOLODRYGA: In Gaza, the ceasefire was only one piece of the puzzle. Many of the problems that existed before still remain.

CNN spoke to the director of the Al-Shifa Hospital, who says medication remains scarce and conditions, like malnutrition, continue. Earlier on

Thursday, trucks lined up at the Rafah border crossing between Egypt and Gaza just waiting to get in. Israel refuses to open the crossing seemingly

in response to the delay in the return of the deceased hostages.

Earlier, a World Food Programme official told CNN that just getting aid into Gaza, it would be one of the biggest hurdles.

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ANTOINE RENARD, COUNTRY DIRECTOR PALESTINE, WORLD FOOD PROGRAMME: Right. The biggest challenge that all the humanitarian are facing is the fact that

we are not having also the crossings in the north that are operating, the one in Zikim and also Erez. We've been doing and working around the clock

to make sure that we can reach these crossings, but so far, they are not yet open and that's perhaps the biggest struggle to manage, to actually

have sufficient volume to get into Gaza, as all commercial and humanitarian aid is relying only on the (INAUDIBLE) crossing so far.

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GOLODRYGA: Let's get an update on the situation from Jeremy Diamond in Tel Aviv. And, Jeremy, clearly, things are still extremely fragile with this

ceasefire. We know two additional Israeli hostages were turned over and identified the last female hostage that had been held deceased in Gaza and

a father of 13 as well. This as Israel is saying they have evidence that Hamas does have access to more hostages, the president here in the United

States saying that if he just says the words he'll allow the IDF to resume. It's a war in Gaza if Hamas doesn't hold up its commitment to the

ceasefire. So, so much still remains on the line here.

Just talk to us about where things stand three days, this fragile ceasefire.

JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, Bianna, I think one of the key things to do here is to separate out some of the public rhetoric

that we're hearing from all of the different parties involved here with the reality on the ground. And in both cases, there's no question that things

are fragile, that things are tenuous, but for now, it does seem like there is an acknowledgement that both parties are upholding, at least the basic

outlines of this ceasefire agreements.

We heard yesterday from senior U.S. advisers who said that they believe that Hamas was upholding its end of the deal by releasing the bodies of 9

of the 28 deceased hostages so far this week. They expect more to come out soon, but acknowledge the difficult circumstances on the ground.

And then there's this question of aid and how much aid Israel is actually allowing into the Gaza Strip. And on that front, Israeli officials had both

indicated to us, as well as to U.N. officials, that they were going to be restricting the amount of aid due to Hamas releasing too few bodies of

these hostages.

But I've now learned, according to U.S. and Israeli officials, that Israel, in fact, is upholding its terms of the deal as it relates to the number of

trucks it has to allow into Gaza. Yesterday, we had been told by an Israeli official that only half of the amount of trucks was actually going to be

allowed in. It turns out that they did allow the full amount, in fact, more than that, 700 trucks of aid according to internal COGAT documents that

we've been able to review. And so that's an indication that despite the kind of public bluster and the threatening language about restricting aid

as a retaliatory measure, it doesn't actually seem to be, you know, having that actual effect on the ground as of now.

That doesn't mean that there aren't other issues as it relates to aid. As you just heard, in terms of the number of crossings that should be opened,

in terms of allowing Palestinian civilians to leave Gaza via that Rafah crossing, those things haven't happened yet. But in terms of the total

number of aid trucks, it does seem like Israel has picked up the pace to the levels required under this ceasefire agreement.

It will take some time though to actually get the quantities of aid required in Gaza to begin to stabilize the situation. We are talking, of

course, of so many different needs, everything from food to shelter, to medicine, as we've heard from the director of Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza

City, who talked about a lack of so many different types of medicine and medical equipment in order to conduct both some basic but especially

specialized procedures in Gaza.

And, of course, here in Israel, the families of the remaining 19 deceased hostages still held in Gaza, continuing to clamor for action, continuing to

make sure that this stays front of mind for all parties involved so that more of those bodies get returned back to Israel. Bianna?

GOLODRYGA: Right. And then that's what the Neutras told me as well. They said, obviously, they want more pressure on getting the bodies out as

quickly as possible, but the last thing they want is for war to resume and completely take away any hope of having their son brought back home.

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And it's such an important point you make about what's said behind closed doors and what's being done behind closed doors and what's being said

publicly. There's so much frustration in Israel following the lack of bodies coming out that I would imagine some of the population there and

including some members of the prime minister's own government are pressuring them not to deliver as much aid as promised. And as you've

noted, it's a fine line to balance, but it's good to hear that at least that aid that has been agreed upon, perhaps even more, it's making it into

those civilians that desperately needed in Gaza.

Jeremy Diamond, thank you, as always, I really appreciate it.

And still to come for us, the president of Madagascar ousted in a military coup capping off weeks of youth protests in the country. We're following

reaction.

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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to One World. I'm Bianna Golodryga.

In Kenya, a seven-day period of national mourning is underway for Raila Odinga who died Wednesday. So far, it has been filled with some very

chaotic moments. Watch as thousands of mourners pushed their way into Nairobi's International Airport earlier today to try to get a glimpse of

Odinga's casket, which had been flown from India to Kenya.

And then in the Kasarini Stadium, Kenyan Security Forces fired warning shots and released tear gas to disperse crowds gathering for a public

viewing of the former prime minister's body.

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You hear the gunshots there in the background.

We're going to turn now to a calmer scene. This is Odinga's body as it lies in state. Kenya's former prime minister will be given a state funeral on

Friday.

CNN's Larry Madowo is following the story from Nairobi. Obviously, the immense outpouring of citizens there coming to say their farewell led to

some chaotic and scary moments as well. Just talk to us about where things are right now.

LARRY MADOWO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Bianna, Kenyans are finally paying the respect and viewing the body of the former Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

This is outside the city's largest stadium. This has been hours delayed because the initial plan to have this viewing happen at parliament

buildings was scrapped after crowds overwhelmed that venue, crowd overwhelmed the stadium, the National Airport as his body was brought, and

essentially escorted his body through the streets of Nairobi in this massive procession.

So, finally, that view of the body is happening ahead of the state funeral Friday with full honors, as has been announced by President Ruto during

this seven days of National Morning. Friday's also been declared a national holiday in Kenya.

The family says that Raila Odinga wanted to be buried within 72 hours and they're respecting that. So, he will be buried Sunday. But on Saturday,

there will be another public view of the body in Kisumu, in the western part of the country where his political base emanated from. But that's the

love that you saw in -- from the people of Kenya who loved him. He was called Baba here, which means dad in Swahili.

And President William Ruto said he was the father of democracy in the country because this man was imprisoned several times in the 80s and 90s in

the fight for a multi-party democracy. He saw that come to fruition and then again helped to bring forward a new Constitution in 2010. And his

death has been a shock to so many here in the country and across the continent. He's one of the most recognizable African political figures over

the last few decades. Bianna?

GOLODRYGA: Yes, and from a man who was so beloved. Now, let's go to different scenes of chaos in Madagascar and what we've seen there after

weeks of protests by Gen Z protesters most specifically leading to the ouster of the controversial president. We're now hearing that the military

leader is -- the Army ruler actually is expected to be sworn in tomorrow despite protests and pushback from the African Union itself. What more are

we learning?

MADOWO: That's right. This elite military unit known as CAPSAT announced that they had taken over after the president was impeached by the National

Assembly in Madagascar. There'd been weeks of protests that began over water and power shortages, but really morphed into this protest over the

state of things. And this is another example of young people being politically active and asserting their right over the state of things, the

politics of their country.

And I just want to give you a quick background of how Madagascar got to this moment. Watch.

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MADOWO (voice over): Cheers and celebrations in the capital of Madagascar after weeks of protests against the government. The military announcing it

had taken charge of the island following the impeachment of embattled President Andry Rajoelina after he fled the country. His current

whereabouts, unknown.

COL. MICHAEL RANDRIANIRINA, MADAGASCAR MILITARY LEADER: We made the decision because, as I have explained several times, nothing is working in

Madagascar. There is no president,, no president of the Senate, no government, nothing is working. So, we have to take responsibility. That's

it.

MADOWO: The protests, which have largely been led by Gen Z, first erupted weeks ago over water and power shortages, and quickly evolved into an

uprising over broader issues in the government, like corruption and lack of basic services.

LALA HERIZO ANDRIAMAMITIANA, PROTESTER: In 12 years, no one has ever listened to us, which is why we are now insisting on the president's

departure and not on dialogue.

JONATHAN NOSOAVINJANAHARY, ANTANANARIVO RESIDENT: We don't want to wait any longer. We don't want propaganda and all that. We want him to resign.

MADOWO: The anger and frustration that boiled over in Madagascar mirrors other recent Gen Z protests around the world, in countries like Peru,

Morocco, Nepal and Kenya. The demonstrators in Madagascar have also adopted the symbols of other youth-led movements with many sporting t-shirts and

flags bearing a cartoon skull and straw hat from the Japanese Manga series, One Piece, an emblem of Gen Z resistance.

But even as they celebrate their apparent victory, Madagascar's young protestors say the fight is far from over.

STYVE RAZAFLINDRAINIBE, STUDENT PROTESTER: It is only the struggle on the ground that is over, not the struggle at the negotiating table.

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And that is where the change of system, the desire to change the system takes on its meaning.

MADOWO: From Madagascar to Indonesia, Gen Zs are redefining political action and forcing all the leaders to pay attention or get removed.

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MADOWO (on camera): The African Union says it has suspended Madagascar from the bloc and has called for a return to civilian rule in the country.

But the colonel that controls, the commander of this elite military unit that said it has taken over, says he will be sworn in on Friday by the high

constitutional court. So, big crisis there, Bianna, especially because President Rajoelina, who says is in a safe place, has not renounced his

presidency. He says he maintains he's still in charge.

GOLODRYGA: We'll be paying close attention and keeping an eye on all of the developments there in Madagascar and in the region as a whole. For us,

as always, Larry Madowo, thank you so much.

And still to come more turmoil at Nestle with the world's largest food company to cut around 16,000 jobs. We'll have your Business Breakout coming

up next.

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GOLODRYGA: All right. Let's check on how the U.S. markets are doing. The Dow all basically down, just flat red arrows, unlike what we saw yesterday,

the Dow down almost 300 points, but a little over half a percentage point. S&P 500 also down a little over half a percentage point, and NASDAQ as

well. This is your Business Breakout.

JPMorgan boss Jamie Dimon is warning of cockroaches in the U.S. economy, telling analysts on a call Tuesday that risky portfolios will only become

more apparent in an economic downturn. Now, his comments follow a string of bankruptcies that have blindsided Wall Street.

Smucker is suing Trader Joe's, alleging that the grocery chain's new frozen peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are too similar to its Uncrustables.

Smucker is seeking restitution and wants a judge to require Trader Joe's to deliver all products and packaging to Smucker to be destroyed.

The world's largest food company is cutting 16,000 jobs worldwide over the next two years. Nestle says that it is working to slash cost and increase

its focus on, quote, operational efficiency, including through automation.

For more on Nestle's job cuts, let's bring in CNN's Vanessa Yurkevich. And, listen, Vanessa, this is something we've heard warned about from many

experts, both in the tech world and economists as well, that with the development of A.I. and rolling out into our everyday lives, that jobs

perhaps would be at stake.

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What more are we learning?

VANESSA YURKEVICH, CNN BUSINESS AND POLITICS CORRESPONDENT: Yes. There's a lot of people out there asking, is A.I. coming for my job? And in some

cases, folks will work with A.I., but the reality is that some jobs will be replaced by A.I. and automation. This is now hitting the world's largest

food company. Nestle this morning announcing that they're going to lay off 6 percent of their workforce.

Here's the CEO on this morning's earning call with that announcement.

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PHILIPP NAVRATIL, CEO, NESTLE: We will take heart, but necessary decisions to reduce headcount. Historically, we have avoided being fully transparent

about these changes. I want to be transparent. We plan a reduction of 12,000 white collar professionals across functions and geographies over the

next coming two years. In addition, we plan a further 4,000 headcount reduction as part of our ongoing productivity initiatives in manufacturing

and supply chain.

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YURKEVICH: So, you're hearing there that this is going to affect both white collar workers but also folks on the manufacturing side. He goes on

to say that the world is changing and Nestle needs to change as well.

This is a lot of what we've been hearing in the business community, that in order to continue with profitability and be able to just change with the

times that A.I. and automation is a key component to growth for these companies.

Also worth noting, though, on their earnings call, our organic sales for Nestle jumped 4.3 percent. That was bigger than expected. So, the company

still doing quite well. Their biggest market, though, Bianna, is right here in the United States and there's been sort of delicate dance with consumers

being very cautious about inflation, but still spending. It'll be curious to see what happens in the fourth quarter, that's around the holiday

season, a lot of cooking, a lot of baking going on during that time, whether or not consumers continue to show up for Nestle. Nestle's stock on

this, I think it's surging about 10 percent at last check.

So, clearly, investors really understanding that the future of many of these companies is A.I. and automation, but, of course, to the detriment of

16,000 jobs, 16,000 people having to lose their jobs over this. Bianna?

GOLODRYGA: Yes. And one thing that is a guarantee, this isn't going to be the only company or CEO that's going to be delivering messages very similar

to that. A whole new world out there. Vanessa Yurkevich, thank you so much.

YURKEVICH: Thank you.

GOLODRYGA: We'll be right back with more.

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GOLODRYGA: Well, Netflix may have a new hit on its hands with Boots. The eight-episode miniseries follows closeted teen Cameron Cope as he joins the

U.S. Marine Corps in 1990 to escape his family life and an overbearing mother. Boots sees Cope, played by Miles Heizer, and his fellow recruits

navigate the literal and metaphorical landmines of boot camp and embrace unexpected brotherhood on their new journey.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody's packing bags, okay? One more. You're not going home.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't do it, man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can. We can together, okay? Ready? Let's go.

GOLODRYGA: All right. The show was inspired by Greg Cope White's 2015 memoir, The Pink Marine. It detailed his experience joining the Marines in

1979 when you couldn't be openly gay in the military. The creators of Boots updated the series to set it in 1990 on the cusp of the controversial don't

ask, don't tell policy.

And joining me now is the star of Boots, Miles Heizer. Miles, it is good to see you.

MILES HEIZER, ACTOR, BOOTS: Hello.

GOLODRYGA: Congratulations on this -- I mean, just the praise and the reviews and the expectations, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how you're

feeling right now, but even reading --

HEIZER: I'm feeling very, very good, yes. I was not expecting this response, and we're all just very excited about it and glad people are

watching it and liking it. It's truly blown my mind.

GOLODRYGA: Well, there's something clearly for everyone here. And on embodying Cameron Cope, you take us deep inside this man who is literally

and emotionally fighting to survive. Can you walk us through the process of carrying that challenge, a man who is concealing so much and then setting

out on this journey of joining the military in some ways, just despite his overbearing mother, how you managed to do that?

HEIZER: Yes. I mean, you know, the show is inspired by Greg Cope White's memoir, The Pink Marine. And he was very involved in the show. So,

fortunately, I had this direct contact with him and his actual experience entering this. But I think that the show sort of enters boot camp through

Cameron's lens. As a gay person, obviously, at that time, it was illegal to be gay in the Marines. So, the stakes are very high for him and very clear,

and I think he's a good entry point.

But once you get there, you know, there's this whole group of people that all, you come to find out, are also hiding something or running away from

something. And the show ultimately becomes about those people coming together and sort of letting those walls down and moving past their

preconceived notions about each other and realizing that they're able to connect and form this bond with this similar goal. And I think that the

story's sort of universal in that way.

GOLODRYGA: And as an actor, obviously, your job is to take on this new character, this new role. But there are some striking similarities too. You

yourself had been outspoken about being a closeted man, an actor, at some point. Can you just talk about that earlier in your career and now what

you've encountered and experienced being more public with your personal life as well and what that was able to help you with in developing this

character?

HEIZER: Yes, definitely. Yes, for me, I started acting when I was ten. And at the time, there was -- there weren't a lot of out gay actors. There

weren't a lot of parts for gay people in movies and T.V. shows. And I definitely had a lot of fear as I got older, that that would -- me being

myself would, in some way, sort of hinder my ability to work and do this thing that I love doing. It took up a lot of space in my mind.

And it truly is crazy to me that boots exists. Like there's been so much progress made in the last, you know, five years. And for me to be able to

be an out gay person on a show that's being backed by these huge platforms and celebrated in this way is pretty crazy to me, like not something that I

saw happening when I was younger.

And I'm just so eternally grateful for this opportunity, for this show. And, you know, I'm hopeful that that sort of -- the direction that the

industry is moving in.

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You know, I think Cameron's story, like I was saying earlier, the theme of it is quite universal. You know, we all have these things that we're

carrying and things that we fear will make people view us differently. And I think that, for me, that thing was my sexuality growing up. But I think

that everyone has something like that and that it's a very relatable story.

GOLODRYGA: No doubt. In the final few seconds, what's not necessarily relatable to everyone is having to get into such physical shape, as you do,

for some of these scenes. I mean, how long did that take for you?

HEIZER: I had about one day in between booking the job and flying to New Orleans. Fortunately, Cameron sort of enters it blindly and I took that

approach. He loves Golden Girls. So, my preparation was that I watch Golden Girls and just sort of showed up and tried my best.

GOLODRYGA: Well, listen, thank you for being a friend, Miles Heizer. All I got to say, I love that Golden Girls reference.

HEIZER: Same.

GOLODRYGA: It's -- listen, as I said, it is getting rave reviews. Thank you so much for joining us to talk about this new hit and best of luck

going forward.

HEIZER: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.

GOLODRYGA: Good to see you.

HEIZER: You too.

GOLODRYGA: All right. That does it for this hour of One World. I'm Bianna Golodryga. Thanks so much for watching.

Amanpour is up next.

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