Return to Transcripts main page

One World with Zain Asher

WFP: Not Really Enough Aid Is Coming Into Gaza; Russia: Conditions For Peace Have Not Changed Since August Summit; James Comey Files Motion To Dismiss Federal Charges; New Details On Alleged Abuse By Epstein, Prince Andrew; Florida A.G. Subpoenas Roblox Over Child Safety Concerns; Manhunt Underway For Thieves In Brazen Robbery. Aired 12-12:45p ET

Aired October 21, 2025 - 12:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[12:00:39]

ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I am Zain Asher.

BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You are watching the second hour of "One World."

The U.S. vice president says he's optimistic that the Gaza ceasefire plan will hold and he hopes it could have a domino effect leading to further

peace across the region.

ASHER: Yes. J.D. Vance is in Israel right now to shore up the U.S.-brokered deal, which is already under strain after a weekend of violence. He, Envoy

Steve Witkoff, and Jared Kushner are also in Israel, alongside him. He actually held a news conference in a short time ago.

Vance says it will be a constant effort to mediate disputes between Hamas and Israel and warn that implementation of the complete agreement could

take some time.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

J.D. VANCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Look, I feel very optimistic about where we are. Knock on wood, you never know how this stuff

is going to go. But given what I've seen, given the incredible talent and effort that's going in to the reconstruction of Gaza, to the long-term

security of the Gazans in that territory, I feel very good about where we are.

And again, if we get this right, I really do think it's going to be a domino that leads to a lot of further peace all across the region. Sir.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: Trucks are dropping off food into Gaza, but humanitarian aid groups say they need a flood of aid, not a trickle. U.N. World Food

Programme says supplies are still far short of what people in Gaza need.

ASHER: And one of the key mediators of the Gaza truce -- truce, rather, is accusing Israel of continuing to violate the deal. Qatar's ruler says that

Israel is making the enclave unlivable for human life. The two-year conflict has reduced much of Gaza to rubble.

The World Food Programme coordinator says that some people are even rationing food.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ABEER ETEFA, WORLD FOOD PROGRAMME: The early deliveries continue, and they are now averaging around 750 tons. That's -- that's much better than what

we had before the ceasefire. But it's still well below our target.

People are hopeful. There is cautious optimism, but they are -- the food that they are receiving -- receiving, they eat part of it and the ration,

and keep some of the supplies for emergency because they are not very confident how long the ceasefire will last and -- and what will happen

next.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ASHER: CNN's Paula Hancocks joins us live now from Abu Dhabi. So, I mean, it makes sense. People are nervous in Gaza about just the fragility of this

ceasefire. And what we're hearing there is really the real-world consequences of that.

We know that, over the weekend, Israel actually halted aid temporarily into Gaza because of the violence and then resumed operations on Monday. And you

heard her say there that people are literally rationing food.

They don't -- they're not confident enough to actually eat all the food that they have access to because they don't know when the violence is going

to resume. So they end up saving the rest for later.

Just walk us through what is happening on the ground there, Paula.

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, absolutely. I mean, the fact is there is not enough humanitarian aid getting into Gaza at this point. We're

hearing this across the board. We're hearing it from the United Nations. We're hearing it from humanitarian aid groups.

On the ground, we also heard it from officials within Gaza itself. The media office saying that -- that there should have been about 6,600 trucks

coming into Gaza since the ceasefire was signed. It was supposed to be 600 a day. They claim there are less than 1,000 that have been allowed in.

Now, we have asked COGAT, the Israeli group that -- the agency that's -- that's in charge of allowing this aid into -- to Gaza to get some figures

from them as well. We're waiting to hear back.

But there is an agreement that not enough has been done. As you say, there was a hope for a flood. And at this point, there is just a trickle. That

was a quote given to us by Mercy Corps last week and -- and the situation doesn't appear to have improved too much at this point.

Now, bear in mind that we did hear that there was famine in certain areas of Gaza City. There was evidence of famine that has potentially not

improved too much. It's not just getting the aid in. It's not just having the ability to pick that aid up from the -- the border crossings. It is

also trying to be able to carry it to the areas of Gaza where it is needed.

[12:05:06]

Many of the roads are blocked. We have heard from the UNDP that that is their number one priority at this point, to try and clear those roads of

debris so that they can get the very basic foods and water, shelter and also medicine to the places that need it.

So, there is a hope that there will be more humanitarian aid coming in. This is the overwhelming voice that we have heard from the NGO scene.

But, of course, it is part of the ceasefire agreement. It is what has been agreed upon. We've heard from Qatar as well. The leader is saying that they

believe Israel is violating the ceasefire. They say it's violating its efforts to turn the Gaza Strip into a place unlivable for human life.

But on the other side, Israel says that Hamas is violating the ceasefire. So there is blame being given on both sides at this point. And it's

something we heard from the U.S. president -- Vice President's J.D. Vance actually talking about the two sides fighting against each other.

And he said that the civilians in Gaza are caught in the middle. They are still being caught in the middle when it comes to the issue of humanitarian

aid. The humanitarian aid, as you say, was halted temporarily when there was that spark in violence in Rafah, when we did see a loss of life on both

sides, humanitarian aid was stopped.

So, it is the -- the civilians once again that are bearing the brunt of this. But this is a voice that is loud. It is a voice that has been

consistent for many, many months that more humanitarian aid needs to get in. It needs to be a flood.

ASHER: Paula Hancocks live for us. Thank you so much, Paula.

All right. At the moment, it seems a U.S.-Russia summit is in limbo. Russia's foreign minister says the conditions for peace in Ukraine have not

changed since Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump met in Alaska in August.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SERGEY LAVROV, RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER (through translator): Now, when we hear from Washington that we must stop immediately and that we must not

discuss anything further, stop and let history judge.

If we simply stop, that would mean forgetting about the root causes of the conflict which Donald Trump's administration has clearly understood in

voice.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: Meanwhile, in Ukraine, the battle rages on. Russia says that it has taken control of the Lenino settlement in the Donetsk region and

pounded Ukraine's energy infrastructure.

One of those targets was the power grid in the city of Chernihiv. It's in North Ukraine, about 70 kilometers from the Russian border. Its residents

are now forced to get warmth and power from emergency tents set up there.

Let's bring in CNN's Kevin Liptak with a closer look.

Kevin, I'm just going to ask you about some headlines that just crossed the wire. This is Bloomberg reporting. So I'm not sure you've had access to

this latest information.

But Bloomberg is reporting that similar to what we saw take place in Gaza with the ceasefire plan there, that a theme that is similar to a multipoint

plan this time, 12 points, is playing out and shaping up in the form of a separate ceasefire deal that's coordinated between the Ukrainians and

Europeans with even President Trump being its chairman of peace again in that type of role.

We are still working to confirm that here at CNN, but that isn't very surprising given how much Trump is hoping to use the leverage that he had

from that ceasefire in Gaza into any sort of ceasefire that he can negotiate in Ukraine. Talk more about that.

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yes. And the president clearly sees the success, at least in the fragile truths that is now

existing in Gaza, as momentum to try and achieve something similar in Ukraine.

And I think the role of the Europeans in all of this is going to be critical because they clearly see what the president did in the Middle East

and want certainly the war to end in Ukraine, but also want to have a say in how it ends.

And so the fact that the Europeans are playing a role in developing a potential framework here, I think demonstrates their sort of hope and

attempt to get into some of these discussions as they watch the president prepare to meet with President Putin to talk to Zelenskyy about potentially

giving up some land as part of any peace agreement.

I think, clearly, there is a rush on the part of some of these European capitals to get into these discussions and to ensure that the peace that is

agreed to is something one that Zelenskyy feels good about or at least doesn't feel like he's being sort of won over by the president and Putin

ganging up on him and forcing him to agree to a settlement that isn't necessarily along his terms, but also to ensure that European security is

guaranteed as part of it as well.

[12:10:10]

And so how that develops over the coming days and weeks, I think, will be something to watch. And it is this summit that President Trump is

forecasting between himself and the Russian leader in Budapest that I think a lot of officials are watching with a degree of concern.

You know, there had been discussion that potentially the U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov would meet this

week to lay the groundwork for that summit.

But what we've heard from people familiar with the matter is that that sort of precursor meeting is no longer happening. That essentially the Americans

didn't view Lavrov as really a powerful interlocutor, and they didn't think that there was really any reason for them to sit down.

That hasn't necessarily dampened President Trump's desire to meet very quickly with Putin. I think in his view, the momentum is on his side here,

and he wants to arrange these -- these talks very, very quickly.

And he's also made clear that any end to the Ukraine war will have to result in some land concessions on the part of Ukraine.

And so you do see all of this moving very quickly. But clearly, I think the President coming into this energized by what he sees as a success in the

Middle East and wanting to translate that onto Ukraine as well.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Kevin Liptak, thank you so much.

ASHER: Thanks, Kevin.

All right. We're following developments across the U.S. involving Trump administration's immigration crackdown. An appeals court handed the

president a major victory in regard to protests against ICE in Portland, Oregon. The panel ruled that he can deploy the National Guard to the city.

GOLODRYGA: In Chicago, a judge pressed federal officials over the response to ongoing protests, which has led to clashes between Customs and Border

Protection agents and civilians.

It comes after the judge expanded a temporary restraining order to include having agents turn on body cameras when they encounter the protesters.

And also happening today, Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil appeared in court in Philadelphia. The administration is appealing a previous ruling

that found efforts to deport him for a protected speech as unconstitutional.

Khalil was at the center of the free speech crackdown on college campuses after -- he spoke after the hearing.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MAHMOUD KHALIL, PALESTINIAN ACTIVIST FACING DEPORTATION: The government tried to put me in prison and disappear me. And the legal system vindicate

me. That means it is robu -- robust.

However, this administration is trying everything to do to actually weaken this -- this system at -- at every -- at every conjecture or at every

corner they're trying to undermine the legal system.

That's why it's very important that the American public in general, they stand up for the -- for the judicial system in this country.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ASHER: Former FBI Director James Comey is trying to get the federal case against him dismissed. Comey's lawyers on Monday launched two attacks on

the charges brought by the Justice Department. They say the U.S. attorney handpicked by Donald Trump to bring the case was appointed improperly. And

they also claimed the charges are a case of selective prosecution and a clear political vendetta against a critic of the president.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. As part of their motion, Comey's lawyers cited dozens of Donald Trump's social media posts in which he repeatedly attacks the former

FBI director and calls for him to be sent to jail.

Joining us now with her views on the case is CNN legal analyst Carrie Cordero. Carrie, it's good to see. It's been a while.

So, we have Comey's defense making two real arguments here in their support for throwing out this case, as noted. One is that the prosecutor was

improperly installed into pointing to political retribution on the president's part, citing obviously his own words on social media and saying

this is an example of selective and vindictive prosecution.

Between those two claims, which one do you think carries more weight for the judge as the judge is considering whether or not to actually dismiss

this case altogether?

CARRIE CORDERO, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: You know, it's interesting, Bianna, because these are two completely separate claims that are being made by the

Comey defense team. And they're going to each be considered completely separated.

I'm -- I'm interested as a technical matter as to the arguments against the appointment of the U.S. attorney because if the court's rule in the

defense's favor on that matter, then we never even get to the merits of this actual prosecution because the actual indictment would be found to be

unlawful. And the case would get thrown out if -- if the courts actually find that she was not a valid U.S. attorney because in this case it was

that U.S. attorney, that interim U.S. attorney who actually took the case of the grand jury and signed the indictment itself.

[12:15:11]

Vindictive prosecution, on the other hand, it is not normally a successful argument made by Defense Council. But if there were any case that

potentially the arguments could be successful, this -- this might be the one, because there is such an extensive record at the highest levels from

the president himself, in public. So it's not even sort of an evidentiary issue demonstrating that there was political intent to use the justice

system against Jim Comey.

ASHER: And, Carrie, I do want to pivot slightly to this appeals court ruling that the Trump administration can actually send National Guard

troops to Portland, Oregon.

I think it's important to lay out to our audience that there is still technically another legal hurdle before there can actually be boots on the

ground, because the ruling actually only overturned one out of two lower court decisions.

So just explain to us the likelihood that the second court decision could actually be overturned as well, given that the sort of legal argument is or

would be quite similar.

CORDERO: Yes. So there were two pieces to this. The lower court, the district court in Oregon found that the president couldn't federalize. So

that's a particular mechanism of any president has available to them under federal law to federalize National Guard.

And the lower court separated out that piece from a second piece, which was whether or not then the troops could actually be deployed on the ground in

Portland.

So now the appeals court, which is the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, said that the federalization issue was colorably under the authority of the

president.

In other words, they ruled in the president's favor and they said that the president could federalize under the particular provision of federal law

that he used, but they did not rule on that deployment piece. So, as a practical matter, there still are troops that are not actually yet

deploying into Portland.

Given that the Ninth Circuit went in this direction, it seems more likely that that second order could fall as well, and because the courts at the

appellate level seem to be taking the view that the president has a likelihood of potential success in those cases.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. Carrie, what struck me is the Ninth Circuit ruling cited what it called sporadic violence at protests and they used that as

justification. Did that surprise you? Has the threshold now? I mean, will other states be looking at this ruling and will governors be concerned,

perhaps the threshold for the president being able to go over their heads to send in National Guards has now been lowered?

CORDERO: Yes. I -- I think actually it's that really the Ninth Circuit is following what has been more of the longer standing precedent, which is

that a president, any president, not just President Trump, has very strong authorities to be able to make decisions about whether or not to

federalize.

And so it's really more supportive. The -- the more unusual decision was the district court's judge preventing a president from being able to

federalize troops when in his judgment.

What this opinion in the Ninth Circuit also is saying is that it wasn't appropriate for the district court judge to basically second guess the

facts.

So as you're describing, Bianna, the opinion lays out a number of the factual circumstances, which we're -- which were real instances of violence

that were happening at federal facilities, and therefore is saying that it's not up to the district court judge to second guess a president's

judgment under those circumstances.

GOLODRYGA: All right. CNN legal analyst Carrie Cordero, thank you so much for --

CORDERO: Thank you.

GOLODRYGA: -- laying it out for us and your expertise. Appreciate it.

ASHER: All right. Now to a memoir that a lot of people are talking about that is out in bookstores today, one that is raising new questions about

convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein and Britain's Prince Andrew. The book I'm talking about is called "Nobody's Girl."

It's the posthumous memoir from Virginia Giuffre, the woman who accused Epstein of trafficking her while underage.

GOLODRYGA: And Giuffre alleges that she was forced to have sex with high- profile men as a teenager, including Britain's Prince Andrew. Here's how people on the streets of London reacted today.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's been the victim and -- and not had the social support that she should have had. And that includes, you know, being abused

by members of the Royal Family.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anything to do with Epstein and -- and what Andrew did, obviously, will reflect badly on the Royal Family, which I'm really

upset about because I am a royalist.

[12:20:11]

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think the media have a lot more dirt on -- on -- on Prince Andrew, and I think it'll be just continue to feed out more and

more.

I mean, you know, the guy is a -- has just -- I think his PR has been terrible.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ASHER: All right. Let's bring in CNN royal correspondent Max Foster, joining us live now in London.

Max, I have to say as a woman, it is so disheartening, so disturbing and deeply troubling to just read through what Virginia Giuffre describes as

happening to her at such a young age. We all know that infamous photo -- photograph where she's standing next to Prince Andrew and Ghislaine

Maxwell. Really young, sort of fresh faced. There she is apparently in an apartment somewhere.

Just -- I mean some of the things that is described in this book, as I mentioned, are -- are really worrying, including the fact that Andrew

guessed her age, saying that he has daughters around the same age, saying that he apparently knew that she was 17 and that he felt entitled to have

sex with her almost like it was his birthright. And that Epstein paid her $15,000. Walk us through it, Max.

MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, one of the things you read from the book, I mean it's a very hard book to read. It's very dark,

it's very gloomy. But, you know, you also understand that you're trying to tell a story here about corruption at the top of society and her voice not

actually being heard.

And it's the breadth of it really. I mean so much of the focus is on Prince Andrew, but there's the -- the most graphic scene, and it's really graphic

and it's very hard to read. It actually refers to how she was on Epstein's island and was trafficked to a man who carried out horrific violence

against her, and then Epstein then expected her to go back and service the same man as it were.

She refers to this man in legal papers as a prime minister. So, she's not saying who that prime minister is. She's not naming most of the men in this

book, only Prince Andrew and Epstein.

And the view of the co-author of this book is that simply that it shouldn't be up to the -- the victims and survivors to name their views as it should

be up to the authorities, so they should be releasing the so-called Epstein files, and then they can find out who this prime minister is.

But it's the breadth of it in particular. A lot of the Prince Andrew stuff we have heard about before, apart from some of his alleged tactics, so for

example his team trying to hire trolls to -- to hassle her and undermine her reputation after her story first started coming out.

Prince Andrew denying any wrongdoing. He hasn't responded to any of this book. So we have reached out to him. We haven't got anything back, so it's

just sitting out there. And I think the more people heard you phrase story, the more real it seems to them.

ASHER: Max Foster, thank you so much for being with us on that story. Appreciate it.

All right. Still to come here on "One World."

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DARIN SCHIERBAUM, ATLANTA POLICE CHIEF: We did have a tragedy averted today.

ANDRE DICKENS, ATLANTA MAYOR: See something, say something did work.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ASHER: Authorities in Atlanta say there could have been a tragedy at the world's busiest airport yesterday, but wasn't for a very timely warning.

That story ahead.

GOLODRYGA: The makers of Tylenol are pushing back on a proposed label change. What U.S. Food and Drug Administration want to put on the pain

reliever's box?

Plus.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JAMES UTHMEIER, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Companies like Roblox have become breeding grounds for predators to get to and have access to our kids.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ASHER: A popular gaming app, Roblox, is facing a new round of scrutiny from Florida's attorney general. What Roblox is saying, just ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[12:25:23]

GOLODRYGA: The maker of Tylenol is pushing back on a proposed U.S. Food and Drug Administration change to their product safety label.

ASHER: Yes. The change would mention a possible link between Tylenol used during pregnancy and autism and ADHD in children. The company says the drug

is, quote, one of the most studied medicines in history and suggested changes to the label are unsupported by any scientific evidence that

current label instructs people who are pregnant or breastfeeding to ask a health professional before use.

GOLODRYGA: The popular gaming platform, Roblox, is under fresh scrutiny. Florida's attorney general has issued subpoenas to the company asking for

information about potential criminal activity on the platform, including suspected predators.

ASHER: Yes. It follows complaints that predators have contacted minors through the app. Roblox says it tries to block the exchange of personal

information between users, but Florida's A.G. accuses the firm of enabling kids to be abused.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UTHMEIER: Companies like Roblox have become breeding grounds for predators to get to and have access to our kids. These criminal subpoenas will enable

us to gather more information for our prosecutors about the criminal activity taking place on Roblox platform, as well as evidence on the

predators that are out there and the victims that are abused.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: For more of this, let's bring in our tech reporter Clare Duffy.

This is such an important story, especially for parents whose children are commonly using these apps and games. My kids are big fans of Roblox and the

-- they do have parental restriction access for parents, but not every parent is aware of this. So talk to us about some of the safety concerns.

CLARE DUFFY, CNN TECH REPORTER: Yes. This is really important, especially as you say, Bianna, there are millions of kids who use this platform. And

it's not just teens, it is often kids as young as six, seven, eight years old.

The Florida attorney's general here is trying to gather more information on this alleged criminal activity on the platform as you hear there accusing

Roblox of being a breeding ground for child predators.

Now, Roblox is pushing back on these claims and in particular, pushing back on a claim from the Florida attorney general that adults can solicit and

exchange inappropriate photos with children on the platform. Roblox says it does not allow image sharing in chats.

And I'll read to you this statement that a Roblox spokesperson sent to me this morning. They said, "Attorney General Uthmeier's claims about Roblox

are false. And the suggestion that illicit image sharing is happening on Roblox demonstrates a lack of understanding of our platform's

functionality. We share the A.G.'s commitment to keeping kids safe and will continue to assist his office in their investigations."

And as you said, Roblox has indeed rolled out a number of safety features. There are parental controls. There's certain age-restricted content where

you have to verify your age with an I.D. or a selfie to access it.

The platform is also rolling out this new A.I. age estimation feature to try to find users who might be lying about their age on the platform. But,

of course, this is not the first time that we've heard these kinds of concerns about safety on Roblox.

The Louisiana attorney general filed a lawsuit against the company earlier this year, claiming that it allows sexual predators to, quote, hunt and

victimize kids. We've also seen lawsuits from individual families.

One Iowa family who claimed their 13-year-old daughter met an adult predator on the platform who then abducted her and trafficked her.

So, there's this sort of groundswell, growing swell of pressure on the company to do even more to keep these very young users safe on the

platform.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Clare Duffy, really important reporting there. Thank you so much.

[12:30:03]

ASHER: All right. Police in Atlanta say a tragedy was averted on Monday when they got a warning a man was headed to Hartsfield-Jackson Airport and

might be planning a shooting spree. The tip-off came from Billy Joe Cagle's own family who told police he was armed and live streaming on social media.

Surveillance video shows him walking around the crowded terminal before he's confronted by officers and arrested.

GOLODRYGA: Now, police say he was not armed when they took him into custody, but his truck was parked outside. And in it, they found an AR-15

rifle with 27 rounds of ammunition.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DICKENS: See something, say something did work. And so we are standing here talking about a tragedy averted versus us standing here telling you about

27 plus lives that were lost or injured at the world's busiest airport.

SCHIERBAUM: We did have a tragedy averted today. I do believe that Mr. Cagle was headed back to his truck to retrieve it. And I do believe he was

likely to use that weapon inside the crowded terminal that he had just seen.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: Unbelievable. Cagle convicted of marijuana possession more than 20 years ago is now facing multiple charges, including making terrorist

threats, attempted assault, and possession of a firearm.

ASHER: All right. Still to come on "One World," inside the Louvre heist that stunned the world. How much was stolen? How frequent burglaries have

been at the French museums? Harry Enten is next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[12:35:02]

GOLODRYGA: All right.

ASHER: You go first. Sorry.

GOLODRYGA: Welcome come back to "One World. I'm Bianna Golodryga.

ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.

As police in France continue to hunt for the thieves who carried out the -- one of the boldest heist ever from the Louvre in Paris over the weekend,

video has emerged of the robbery in progress. The thieves use an angle grinder and a blow torch inside the museum's Apollo gallery, making off

with priceless crown jewels in a break-in that lasted just seven minutes.

GOLODRYGA: Yes, at 9:30 in the morning. The French Justice Minister admits that the robbery exposed major security failings, you think? It is the

latest in a series of troubles at the 230-year-old museum.

ASHER: Joining us live now is chief data analyst of CNN, Harry Enten.

Harry, I mean, run the numbers for us because obviously it's not the first time we've seen a major art heist in France.

In fact, I would say Europe, France especially, but Europe as a whole seems to be a major -- yada yada yada, get to the point and say, OK. Take it

away, Harry.

HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: No, no, I was --

ASHER: He's like --

ENTEN: I'm just like so astounded by all of this. I mean, you kind of hit it, right? It happened in broad freaking daylight. What the heck is going

on over there in France, my God? I mean, I've never been, but maybe I don't want to be if the robberies happen this easily.

Look, you know, just still a lot of numbers here that I think are just absolutely fascinating, all right?

So, you know, you talk about the jewel stolen. Diamonds alone, we're talking more than 8,700. That doesn't even take into account the more than

200 pearls, nearly 40 emeralds and nearly 35 sapphires.

And as you mentioned it, the total worth of this is priceless. It's priceless.

Now, of course, these numbers don't get at what the true insanity of this is because as you were saying, this is not the first time that this has

happened in France.

All right. Let's take a look here. I mean, French Museum burglaries. The idea that one of these is happening is actually quite commonplace. I mean,

you go back to 2015, there were 31, 31 museum burglaries just in that year alone. That was the most and last decade, nine, two years ago.

And then last year, there were 21. There were 21. What the heck is going on over there in France? That's what I'd like to know.

Now, if we're talking about the Louvre, right, and I -- I can't believe I pronounced that word correctly. I mean, what I know about French is un deux

trois, and that's about it.

But if we take a look at the heists over at the Louvre, I mean, historically speaking, there have been a lot of them. I mean, in 1911, the

freaking Mona Lisa was taken. 1976, we're talking about Charles the 10th sword. 1983, the Suits of Armor. And then this looks like a pretty gosh

darn nice looking painting over here in 1998.

But I will say that I am not going to even try to pronounce this word. I have no idea. I know de and then Chemin, Chemin. I think that sounds about

--

ASHER: Chemin.

ENTEN: Chemin? See, there we go.

ASHER: Chemin.

ENTEN: This -- this is called working -- called working together. I have no idea how to pronounce it, but -- but the painting looks really nice.

Now, I will say this. There is one good thing to come out of this besides the fact that I'm brushing up on my French. And that was there was a great

film back in 1999, "The Thomas Crown Affair," which of course was a film about a museum heist, but it was about the Metropolitan Museum of Art here

in New York City.

And Google searches for that film, up 300 percent versus last week because the bottom line is, with heists on the mind, people want to watch it. And I

dare say that Pierce Brosnan and Rene Russo are pretty gosh darn steamy in that film.

GOLODRYGA: They were hot. I think -- I think that film --

ASHER: "Pink Panther," "Ocean's Eleven."

GOLODRYGA: -- is doing them too much justice.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. The "Pink Panther" is more along the lines of I think the type of -- of thievery we saw here.

Not so sophisticated, 9:30 in the morning.

ENTEN: Yes. I -- I mean maybe so. I mean, just the pure ridiculous of it all.

I just want to point out again. What was it? 9:30 A.M. in the morning, as you were saying, and they came in and nobody basically did anything.

If I knew that heist was -- were that easy, maybe I would have chosen a different line of profession.

ASHER: And they dropped one of them through their getaway.

ENTEN: And they dropped one of them. They weren't even that good. They dropped one of them.

ASHER: Unbelievable.

GOLODRYGA: You're too honest of a man, Harry. There's no thief in you.

ENTEN: I know.

GOLODRYGA: And that's why we love you.

ENTEN: I know. I'm -- I'm too honest. And, you know, that's why the people love me. And that's why I love everybody else because I'm honest and I love

all of human kind.

ASHER: You know, Harry told me this morning that he's actually shy.

ENTEN: I am shy. I am shy. I -- I'm shy -- unless I know the people that I'm talking to. So I know both of you very well. So I'm not shy with you.

ASHER: Do you know the millions of people around the world who are watching right now, Harry?

ENTEN: You know, if I had to meet them each individually, I would be very much in a shell. But if I get to meet them as a group, all of a sudden,

outcomes to performance.

ASHER: He's coming out of his shell.

All right. Harry, thank you. Appreciate it.

GOLODRYGA: Thanks, Harry.

ENTEN: Bye.

ASHER: And I love your French, by the way.

ENTEN: Bonjour.

ASHER: All right. All right. Staying in the art world, a new exhibition actually focuses on the style and the legacy of Black cultural icon, Andre

Leon Talley, who passed away back in 2022.

[12:40:02]

Talley's groundbreaking career took him to the highest echelons of fashion around the globe. He's perhaps best known for his longtime role as creative

director at Vogue.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. The exhibition called "Style is Forever" is presented by the Savannah College of Art and Design. It features dozens of looks from

Talley's personal collection.

CNN spoke with SCAD's creative director and curator about the project.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

RAFAEL GOMEZ, CREATIVE DIRECTOR, SCAD FASH ATLANTA AND LACOSTE: My name is Rafael Gomes. I'm the creative director at SCAD FASH Atlanta and Lacoste.

The title of the exhibition is "Andre Leon Talley: Style is Forever."

We have 75 looks, 75 in Atlanta, 24 in Savannah and then we have many pieces like hats, bags, scarves.

If you include photography, letters, and so we are around almost 300 pieces in the exhibition.

The exhibition came together before COVID. I told Andre, we need to do an exhibition of your looks. And Andre, no. No one wants to see it. I was

like, everybody wants to see it. You have so many amazing stunning pieces from all the designers.

And he now, maybe one day, he was like, no, we need to do it the next. And then he was very happy about the idea.

But with COVID, we couldn't travel. Everything stopped. And unfortunately, Andre passed. And later on, for our surprise, he left in his view so much

to SCAD.

He was the first man of color that penetrate into this fashion world that was so elitist. And it was so difficult for him.

ANDRE LEON TALLEY, AMERICAN FASHION JOURNALIST: There was probably a little bit of the fantasy of me. Maybe I was like a black or a black page like in

the Russian court.

But I had something to say. And I think the people who matter realized that.

GOMES: In a time before Google, because now we can ask everything to our phone, before this, they needed to ask everything to Andre.

Andre's superpower was his knowledge. Andre was so knowledgeable. Andre was armed with fashion. I could hear Andre all the time talking. Don't put my

hands like that, Rafael. How can you do this?

There are some looks that the tunics, the cuff (INAUDIBLE), their floor lengths, or they have a train. You don't see what's in the knees.

Every single look has trousers underneath, has shoes underneath. I could hear Andre, how dare you put me out there in public without (INAUDIBLE)

without the shoes?

His sense of humor on top of it. It was like such an intelligent humor that was educating. It was entertaining. It was captivating.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

GOLODRYGA: Lovely inspiration for so many to come.

Well, that does it for "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.

ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Thank you so much for watching.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[12:45:00]

(AFRICAN VOICES CHANGEMAKERS)

END