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Jamaica Braces For Its First Category Five Hurricane; Trump In Japan On Second Stop Of Asia Tour; Trump Refuses To Rule Out Another Run For The White House; Canada, U.S. Poised To Lose Measles Elimination Status; Trump In Japan As U.S. And China Reach Trade Deal Framework; Trump Threatening Higher Tariffs On Canada; Startup Aims To Make Recycling Safer And Smarter; Couple Finds Long-Lost Love Letters; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: Never before scene. Hurricane Melissa clocks in at a Category Five and it's on its way to the island of Jamaica.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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ANDREW HOLNESS, JAMAICAN PRIME MINISTER: While we must prepare for the worst, let us also pray for the best.
Keep safe, our beloved Jamaica, land we love.
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GOLODRYGA: Bracing for impact. The biggest storm that Jamaica has ever seen will soon make landfall.
ASHER: Also ahead, we haven't made it to the midterms here in the U.S. yet, but who's counting? The major politicians already hinting at a run in 2028.
And later.
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DEBI MERCURI, FOUND LOVE LETTERS: I just don't think there are many coincidences in life.
I thought, oh, these are so beautiful. These are keepsakes.
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GOLODRYGA: From trash to treasure, one grandmother's quest to bring long lost love letters to their rightful owners.
ASHER: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You're watching the second hour of "One World."
A rare and historic storm is closing in on Jamaica. Hurricane Melissa, a massive Category Five with winds up to 165 miles per hour, is expected to
make a direct hit on the southern coast early Tuesday local time.
ASHER: The island has issued mandatory evacuation orders for several coastal communities for what could be the strongest storm to ever hit
Jamaica.
Forecasters are warning Jamaicans to be ready for life-threatening floods. The Prime Minister says the storm is moving slowly, which could make it
even more dangerous.
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HOLNESS: We are already experiencing rain and overcast conditions. Based on current assessments, all of Jamaica will likely be affected by hurricane
conditions, meaning, heavy rains and winds above 100 miles per hour.
It is also likely that hurricane conditions could linger over Jamaica due to the slow moving nature of this system.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN's Chris Warren is tracking developments from our Weather Center. And Chris, we're looking at estimates of up to 30 inches of rain,
that, coupled with this being a slow moving storm system for an island that has yet to experience a hurricane, much less one of this magnitude.
Just talk to us what -- about what we can expect to see.
CHRIS WARREN, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, you mentioned all of that rain and all of that rain because it is a slow moving system.
And just looking at the size of this right here, you can see this is the eye. Now, the more well-defined the eye and the more symmetrical the storm
is. You had to make it in the force, you cut it like a pie and the force. The more each side or each corner looks like each other, the more dangerous
these storms are because it's better organized.
And here's Jamaica. You can see the size of this and where it's going. It's heading to the north, possibly and likely going to make landfall as a
Category Five hurricane.
When it comes to the wind, four and five, not much difference. Both catastrophic destruction with this. So a devastating situation unfolding
just in terms of the winds closest to the center.
Now, hurricane four, tropical storm force, extending across the entire island absolutely on the table for that. And several hours of that.
But it's this rainfall footprint alone, even not talking about the winds. Just the rainfall is a catastrophic situation.
And any little movement's not going to change much of that. An awful lot of rain is on the way. Looking at the potential of rainfall that would be
measured like more than a meter. So, we're looking at, you know, 36 to, you know, even 40 some inches. So we're looking at feet of rain.
And just how slow this is. You can see by eight o'clock in the morning, while we heard and we're seeing it's raining right now, it's going to
continue to rain throughout the evening, overnight, and into tomorrow morning before it finally lifts out.
And some of the latest forecast models are showing a little bit slower. So maybe not until tomorrow afternoon will it be moving out. We're looking at
about 18 hours, at least, of some of the worst of the conditions. You can drive from New York to Miami in that time. So just imagine all of that rain
falling.
So while the mountains here in Jamaica are getting a lot of rain, mudslides, landslides of possibility, the mountains do play a part in that.
You get extra lift in the atmosphere. When it gets more rain out of the atmosphere, that water needs to come down and drain out into the Caribbean.
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But unfortunately, Melissa is going to be pushing water inland. So going over some of these roads inland, in some cases, three or four meters above
high tide. This is waters trying to get out of the mountains.
Zain and Bianna, this is setting up to be a disastrous situation.
GOLODRYGA: No doubt. Of course, we are hoping for the best for all of those residents there and really do advise that they heed all of the local
warnings.
Chris Warren, thank you so much.
ASHER: China's foreign minister says, a healthy, stable and sustainable relationship serves the long-term interest of both Beijing and Washington.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. These remarks come as Donald Trump kicks off the second leg of his visit to Asia. The U.S. president is in Japan right now where he met
with the emperor today.
But the big story so far is what the administration is calling a framework agreement on trade with China that was announced over the weekend.
ASHER President Trump spoke to reporters aboard Air Force One about a range of issues he said he was opposed to how his administration handled a raid
by ICE agents at a Hyundai plant in Georgia last month.
And then he indicated he was open to extending his Asia trip to meet with the North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
GOLODRYGA: His treasury secretary said earlier the details on a TikTok deal are being ironed out to head of an expected meeting between President Trump
and China's Xi Jinping.
The U.S. president sounded optimistic ahead of that meeting.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We have China coming and it's going to be very interesting. I have a lot of respect for President Xi. And
we are going to -- I think, we're going to come away with a deal.
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GOLODRYGA: Back to Japan now where President Trump has slated to hold talks with the country's first female prime minister on Tuesday.
ASHER: Now, CNN's Hanako Montgomery filed this report a short time ago from Tokyo.
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HANAKO MONTGOMERY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: U.S. President Donald Trump kicked off his Japan trip with a visit to the country's Imperial Palace where he
met Emperor Naruhito.
Now, this was their second official meeting. And according to local media, they discussed everything from Shohei Ohtani stardom to musical instruments
and world conflicts.
Now, this was largely a ceremonial greeting. And all eyes are really on this bilateral summit that will take place on Tuesday morning local time
between Trump and the newly elected Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi.
For Japan, the main focus of this summit is chemistry. They're really looking to see if Takaichi and Trump will build a strong personal rapport
with one another, especially at a time when tensions are high between the two allies.
Trump seemed optimistic, however, about meeting the newly elected Japanese Prime Minister as he told reporters on Air Force One on Monday.
TRUMP: I look forward to meeting the new prime minister. I hear phenomenal things. She was a great ally and -- and friend of Shinzo Abe, who is my
friend, the former prime minister, and he was -- he was great. He was one of my best -- he was one of the best.
And the group, he was one of the best, really best. And I know they were very close. And I think philosophically, they were close, which is good.
It's going to be very good. That really helps Japan and the United States. I think she's going to be great.
MONTGOMERY: Now, as you heard there, the U.S. president had a very strong relationship with the former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, which was
only helped by their shared love for golf.
Now, Takaichi, as a mentee of Abe and a longtime colleague of the former prime minister, will likely use her personal connection to Abe as leverage
to build even stronger connections with the U.S. president.
My sources say she may even gift Trump some golden golf balls and a golf club that Trump reportedly used during his rounds with the former Japanese
prime minister.
Now, the meeting comes at a pretty sensitive time for Japan. The U.S. and Japan do have a trade agreement, but there are still lots of questions
unanswered about a $550 billion investment deal that the two countries have struck.
Now, Japan has pledged to invest this large sum of money in the United States, but there are still no details about where that money will go, how
this will effectively be rolled out. And this is a very large sum of money for Japan. It's actually more than a tenth of the country's annual economy
in 2024.
Now, the meeting comes at a pretty sensitive time for Japan. The U.S. and Japan do have a trade agreement, but there are still lots of questions
unanswered about a $550 billion investment deal that the two countries have struck.
Now, Japan has pledged to invest this large sum of money in the United States, but there are still no details about where that money will go, how
this will effectively be rolled out. And this is a very large sum of money for Japan. It's actually more than a tenth of the country's annual economy
in 2024.
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Now, defense will also be a key topic. Trump has long pushed for U.S. allies to spend more on defense. And Japan has pledged to boost its defense
spending to two percent of its GDP by 2027.
But interestingly, Takaichi has actually pushed up that deadline to March 2026. And my sources tell me that that's largely to appease Trump to appeal
to him that Takaichi sees eye-to-eye with him on certain issues like security.
For Japan, this is a high-stakes meeting with one of the world's most unpredictable leaders. And how Takaichi will navigate this relationship
will determine the future of the U.S.-Japan alliance.
Hanako Montgomery, CNN, Tokyo.
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ASHER: All right. Despite more and more Americans being the pain of the government shutdown now in day 27, there are no signs it will end anytime
soon.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And there are no talks scheduled between Democrats and Republicans. And with President Trump in Asia, it is unlikely that
Republicans would be willing to make any moves without his involvement.
Here's what lawmakers have been saying in recent days.
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REP. MIKE JOHNSON (R-LA): Now that Democrats have had their protest and publicity stunts, I just pray that they come to their senses and end this
shutdown and reopen the government this week. Republicans are waiting. The American people are waiting. And we are ready to act.
REP. HAKEEM JEFFRIES (D-NY): Our view as Democrats is that we want to sit down with anyone anytime, any place, either at the Capitol or back at the
White House, to reopen the government, to enact a bipartisan spending agreement that actually meets the needs of the American people, while at
the same time decisively addressing the Republican healthcare crisis that is crushing the American people.
SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI (R-AK): I don't think we've ever had one where the president was not engaged at the end. And so I think that that would
certainly help.
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ASHER: The prolonged shutdown means the food assistance program known as SNAP is likely to run out of money this weekend. The government website on
the program says the well has run dry.
More than 40 million Americans rely on SNAP to provide them with meals, including many U.S. veterans.
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JUAN SARO, DISABLED U.S. VETERAN, SNAP RECIPIENT: The world is watching. We need to get this right. I understand there is divisiveness in politics, but
-- but this isn't about politics, this is about priorities. And our priorities should be our citizens. And they're making sure that we have
food on the table when those promise us.
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ASHER: Just 10 months into his second term, as President Donald Trump is already musing about potentially running for a third term.
GOLODRYGA: Now, this happened while speaking to reporters on Air Force One. Trump refused to rule out another run in 2028, saying, I would love to do
it.
Now, let's not forget, he is constitutionally barred from running for a third term. He also praised his vice president, J.D. Vance, and Secretary
of State Marco Rubio, singling them out as future leaders of the Republican Party.
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TRUMP: We have J.D. obviously, the vice president is great. Marco is great. I think -- I'm not sure if anybody would run against us.
I would -- I would -- I would love to do it. I have my best numbers ever. It's very terrible. I have my best numbers.
If you read it --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're not ruling out?
TRUMP: Am I not ruling it out? You'll have to tell me.
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ASHER: It isn't just Donald Trump talking about the 2028 race.
GOLODRYGA: Over the weekend, California Governor Gavin Newsom, one of Donald Trump's fiercest critics, said he is thinking about a run for the
White House in three years. And the Democratic nominee from 2024, Kamala Harris, remember her? Well, she says she has not made up her mind yet
either about another run. Have a listen.
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GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM (D-CA): I'm looking forward to who presents themselves in 2028 and -- and who meets that moment. And -- and -- and that's the
question for the American people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is it fair to say after the 2026 midterms, you're going to give it serious thought?
NEWSOM: Yes. I'd be lying otherwise. I -- I'd just be lying. And I can't do that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When are they going to see a woman in charge in the White House?
KAMALA HARRIS, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In their lifetime, for sure.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Could it be you?
HARRIS: Possibly.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you made a decision yet?
HARRIS: No, I have not.
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ASHER: From Trump's Asia tour, to the shutdown, to a 2028 preview, the ideal person to guide us to all of this is, of course, CNN politics senior
reporter Stephen Collinson.
So, Stephen, I want to start with Donald Trump's comments about a potential third term. One of the things that he said aboard Air Force One was this
idea of, you know, I'm not going to -- I'm not going to try to circumvent the U.S. constitution by being vice president and then, I guess, switching
in a sort of Putin-Medvedev scenario. He said that that would be too cute.
Interestingly enough, he didn't actually rule out a third term entirely. He's not too cute for that, but too cute to kind of some trick the American
people by pretending to be vice president.
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STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: Yes. It's never too early to start thinking about the U.S. presidential election.
I think to some extent what Trump is doing here is trolling us all, because he knows that we're going to want to talk about this. If he came out now
and said, look, I'm definitely not running in 2028, that would not only make him an immediate lame duck and lessen his power, which he's piling up
every single day, it would also unleash endless speculation about a match- up between Rubio and Vice President J.D. Vance which would take a lot of the oxygen away.
Having said that, this is Donald Trump. He tried to say in office in 2020 after losing an election. So I don't think we can necessarily rule anything
out.
It is early to think about Trump. You know, he's 79 years old. What would the economy look like, for example, in two years, if he did try and pull
off an unconstitutional run for the presidency, lots of unknown questions.
But Trump answers these questions because he knows we're all going to be very interested in the answer.
GOLODRYGA: Well, he would be. I think if not the oldest president, I think he was already -- he's already the oldest president elected into office.
But if he ran for a third unconstitutionally allowed term, he would definitely be into his 80s.
We saw him showing off some of his bigger there with some dance moves when he landed.
ASHER: She was actually doing it in the commercial for me.
GOLODRYGA: I was reenacting these signature Trump moves. There you go. I won't do it again.
ASHER: I wish we caught that on camera, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: I won't do it again for our viewers.
But, Stephen, here we are a year out from the midterms. And where do Republicans stand? And what are some of their concerns in terms of hoping
to maintain the majority? Because we are now looking into perhaps the longest government shutdown on record. There's no end in sight here.
We're already in the second longest government shutdown. We're starting to see inflation once again creep up. Tariffs continue to be a major issue.
Case in point, you know, these discussions with China this week and President Xi. There are a number -- and then healthcare costs too. There
are a number of factors that perhaps could be going in the Democrats' favor if Republicans don't course correct soon enough.
How worried are Republicans right now?
COLLINSON: Well, I think you can tell how worried they are because they've launched this attempt to gerrymander or draw new congressional districts in
a bunch of states to try to get more Republican seats that are available to be won.
You saw that started in Texas. It's moved to North Carolina. There's some talk about them doing in Missouri. And Democrats are responding by doing
the same thing in California under California Governor Gavin Newsom, who you featured there, who is effectively already running for president. He's
using this redistricting effort to try and emerge as the biggest opponent to Trump. So, yes, they're definitely worried.
Add to that these economic storm clouds and the fact that president's parties usually take a beating in the midterm elections after their first
elected and Trump's approval ratings, although he said they're the best ever, they're where they always are, which is about 42 percent in most
polls. That is not good historically for parties heading into the midterm elections.
So, yes, I think they're worried. That said, the Democrats in this government shutdown haven't really, I think, although they've elevated the
history of healthcare, is not clear that they're going to emerge from this shutdown with a win.
And I think there's a big question about whether the Democrats in Congress have a smart enough and penetrative enough message in the midterm elections
to -- to get to where they need to be, to get that big win.
And, of course, they'd use control of the House. It's very unlikely they're going to win the Senate. They'd use control of the House to really increase
scrutiny and investigations on Trump in the last two years of his term.
ASHER: And finally, just in terms of Kamala Harris, effectively not ruling out running again, I mean, how is that likely to turn out for her, Steven?
I mean, based on what I know of the American electorate, they don't really love to give second chances unless your name is Donald J. Trump.
Once you lose once --
COLLINSON: Yes.
ASHER: -- the American electorate sort of appears to sort of give up on you. You don't --
I mean, it doesn't -- doesn't -- they don't usually give second chances. So -- so what would be the -- what would be the point for her to run again?
COLLINSON: Yes. And I think the question with Kamala Harris is, has she fixed the problems that hurt her presidential campaign the last time
around? She didn't really have any good answers on the key questions of what she was going to do with about the economy, how she was going to make
groceries and rent more affordable.
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If Democrats went with her, they would be dredging up the whole legacy of the Biden presidency. The fact that the president ran again for a second
term at the same time, which would end when he was 86, she's going to have to answer questions about her role in that. And whether she was an
effective campaigner.
I think the problem for Kamala Harris is going to be when she goes to meet the donors, perhaps after the midterm elections next year, is there going
to be enthusiasm in the democratic base and the donor class, especially for a second campaign when the first one didn't exactly win rave reviews and
there's going to be a whole bunch of new candidates, including Gavin Newsom, who are effectively almost running already and it's not going to be
easy for her to win that democratic nomination.
ASHER: All right. Stephen Collinson, thank you. Appreciate it.
GOLODRYGA: Thanks, Stephen.
Well, Cameroon's President Paul Biya has won re-election for an eighth term.
Official results, which came out earlier Monday, gave Biya 53.6 percent of the vote. Biya came to power in 1982 and has steadily tightened his grip on
the country, scrapping presidential term limits more than 15 years ago.
Now at the age of 92, he starts a presidential term that could keep him in office until he's nearly 100.
ASHER: Now, protests erupted over the weekend after early results pointed to yet another win for Biya. The opposition supporters clashed with police
amid accusations of vote rigging others in Cameroon posted their online criticism.
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BRANSON MAIMO, ACTIVIST: It's our country and politics affects everybody, whether you're a doctor, or plumber, a bike rider or an entrepreneur like
myself, a farmer, whatever you do, our lives are basically decided by politics.
So if we don't hold our leaders accountable, then we are basically leaving talks to decide our futures and that's very dangerous.
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ASHER: The government has dismissed allegations of election irregularities and is calling for calm.
GOLODRYGA: Well, still to come on "One World," the U.S. and Canada have both been virtually measles-free this century until this past year, where
you're worrying health update, just ahead.
Plus.
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OFFICER BUDDY CALZADA, FORT WORTH POLICE DEPARTMENT: These officers are heroes. The community needs to know how amazing the Fort Worth Police
Department is.
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ASHER: A devastating rollover crash. A baby girl trapped underneath the vehicle as police officers rushed to save her life. That story, just ahead.
GOLODRYGA: And it looks like Delta Airlines is ready to cash in as relations between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia grow closer. The airlines have
stored plan, when we come back.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, the case of measles can not only be unpleasant, in some cases, it can be deadly, which is why health authorities fight horror to
prevent it from spreading.
But that can't always fight when the fight. And now Canada could be chalked off the list of countries where the disease has been eliminated.
For the past 12 months, measles has been in continuous circulation with more cases in the past year than over the previous 25.
ASHER: Now, the situation in the U.S. is not much better with a new cluster of cases in the Southwest coming after a major outbreak earlier this year
in Texas.
Jacqueline Howard has more.
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JACQUELINE HOWARD, CNN HEALTH REPORTER: When a country achieves measles elimination, that means that there has not been local spread of the disease
over 12 months.
So that means that over a year, one local person has not spread measles to another local person. So when a country loses elimination status, that
means they have had continuous local spread of the disease.
And that's, as you said, that's what we're seeing in Canada. Today, marks a year since there has been local spread.
And so there is concern about what that means for their elimination status. Canada achieved measles elimination in 1998. So if that status is lost,
that would be a major setback for that country's public health.
And similarly, here in the United States, we achieved measles elimination in the year 2000. But so far this year, there have been more than 1,500
confirmed cases reported by at least 42 states and territories. So again, there's a concern about what that means for our elimination status as well.
And there's actually a meeting that the World Health Organization is holding next month at one of its regional offices. That's where officials
are going to talk about measles elimination. So many people are going to watch that meeting to see, OK, what are they going to say about Canada?
What might they say about the United States? Because again, elimination status appears to be at risk for both countries.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. And our thanks to Jacqueline for that.
Meantime, a heroic rescue in Texas. Fort Worth police officers were helped by passers-by to save a baby who was pinned under a vehicle after her
mother's car crashed.
ASHER: Yes. Dramatic body cam footage shows how their quick thinking and Herculean efforts saved the one-year-old. KTVT's Amelia Mugavero reports.
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AMELIA MUGAVERO, REPORTER (voice-over): What you're seeing is heart- pounding video of Fort Worth police Sergeant Nichols.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's tight.
MUGAVERO (voice-over): Assisted by Officer Bounds.
UNIDENTIFIED ALE: Over here. We need to move the car.
MUGAVERO (voice-over): Responding to a rollover crash Thursday morning.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get on. I think the baby's under there.
MUGAVERO (voice-over): On Westbound I-30 near Eastchase.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Keep moving. Keep moving. Keep moving. Oh, my God.
MUGAVERO (voice-over): It's this moment that officers know they have a tiny life in their hands, and their training takes over.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breathing.
MUGAVERO (voice-over): Nichols performs CPR, Bounds assisting, pushing and pushing for a pulse.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on. Roll over. Get (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She has a pulse.
MUGAVERO (voice-over): After more than three minutes, that felt like eternity.
(BABY CRYING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here he goes. Here you go. Here you go.
MUGAVERO (voice-over): The sweetest sound, a baby's cry.
CALZADA: You don't feel the relief right then and there, you feel the relief moments later after your adrenaline's all worked up. You do what the
police department has trained you to do.
MUGAVERO (voice-over): Officer Buddy Calzada says it was their new police chief, Eddie Garcia's decision, to post the now viral video on their social
media showing their officers heroic actions to the world.
CALZADA: And he said these officers are heroes. The community needs to know how amazing the Fort Worth Police Department is. And he wanted to get it
out immediately.
Chief Garcia posted to X saying, "Our prayers are with this little angel as a full recovery is expected. Not quite sure a better example of protect and
serve exists."
CALZADA: Well, it says on our vehicles that we're dedicated to protect.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was under.
CALZADA: You know, we give you service with respect and nothing says that more than the video that you're able to watch right now.
MUGAVERO: Now the police department says the mother and her baby are still in the hospital. The mother does have serious injuries, but the good news
is the baby is currently stable.
But in the meantime, investigators are still trying to determine if that baby was dropped in a car seat.
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In Fort Worth, Amelia Mugavero, CBS News, Texas.
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GOLODRYGA: Unbelievable. I mean, my -- my heart was pounding watching the video.
ASHER: Every parent's worst nightmare.
All right. Still to come, President Trump's whirlwind Asia -- well, his trip to Asia, he's now in Japan, but we'll have more on a crucial meeting
expected with China's leader later in the week and the future of trade between the two giant economies.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
More now on the U.S. President's trip to Asia. China's Foreign Minister says President Donald Trump and Xi Jinping are world-class leaders and
sounded optimistic about high-level interactions between the two nations.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. President Trump is now in Japan on the second leg of his tour. He's meeting Japan's Prime Minister Tuesday and then heads off to the
Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting in South Korea.
ASHER: His big moment could come Thursday and expected summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping. The U.S. announced what it calls the framework of a
trade agreement over the weekend.
GOLODRYGA: And that's the markets spiking futures over the weekend on news of a potential framework deal.
For "The Exchange" now, we want to take a closer look at President Trump's visit to Asia and his longest overseas trip since he took office in
January.
Joining is now is Lingling Wei, chief China correspondent for "The Wall Street Journal." Lingling, welcome back to the program.
You have some really thoughtful reporting from a few days ago and basically about how Xi has shifted his strategy to more of a Trump-type of strategy,
giving concessions, where Trump would expect them on issues that are clearly of importance to Donald Trump in the short term, that's TikTok,
that's soybeans, and instead doubling down on other longer-term issues that not only we should say affect the U.S. markets and economy, but global
economy, and that is rare earth exports controlled.
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As we've noted, the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said over the weekend that a, quote, very substantial framework deal is in place to avoid 100
percent U.S. tariffs and to defer potentially the -- the Chinese rare earth restrictions for another year.
If that is in case the scenario and the framework of the deal, is this a short-term win for a President Xi? Or has Trump won this round?
LINGLING WEI, CHIEF CHINA CORRESPONDENT, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL: Sure. By all the look of it, this framework deal is showing that Xi Jinping's
escalate -- to de-escalate strategy is working.
As you just pointed out, Bianna, what we reported was this new Xi Jinping playbook for Trump. It involves catering to the president's personal
likings such as issues involving TikTok and soybeans.
But at the same time, heading back at the policy moves from Washington deemed as harmful to China and with unprecedented force. Just before this
weekend trade talks, we -- we saw how trade tensions really flared between the two countries precisely because China implemented -- announced some
really draconian export control measures on rare earth that threatened to disrupt the entire global supply chain.
And in response, the Trump team and Chinese officials held the talks in Malaysia this weekend. It looks like both sides made compromises and the
compromises from the Chinese side are quite tactical. It involves more purchases of -- resuming purchases of soybeans and delaying implementation
of the most recent rare earth rules for -- for a year.
From the U.S. side, it involves basically shelving the most recent 100 percent tariff threat and potentially reducing the 20 percent tariffs over
fentanyl and also potentially involving the U.S. refraining from taking some policy actions against China.
So put it all together, what you're seeing is the Chinese making some very tactical concessions in order to fend off future policy moves from
Washington. And those moves could potentially, you know, affect the U.S. national security interest going forward.
So definitely, devil still in the details, we need to see what specifically details coming out after the leaders meeting.
ASHER: And just in terms of security issues sort of expanding beyond this framework sort of trade agreement, issues as it pertains to Taiwan and --
and the South China Sea as well, just explain how those factors will -- will be part of this meeting too.
WEI: Sure. At the top of Xi Jinping's agenda, ironically, it's not trade, it's about Taiwan. He's going to use this meeting and potentially, you
know, follow up meetings with President Trump to really try to hammer home the point that the U.S. should, you know, adhere to the longstanding One
China Policy.
And not only that, he's going to try to push President Trump to make certain concessions on how the U.S. policy regarding Taiwan is about. For
example, President Xi is likely to push President Trump to more clearly state that the United States oppose Taiwanese independence and support the
eventual re -- peaceful reunification of the island into China.
So those -- if President Trump were to make those statements, that could help, you know, Beijing in terms of isolating Taiwan a little bit more from
-- from the U.S. support, from -- from potentially global support.
We will see whether or not this is something President Xi Jinping will get from the upcoming meeting.
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Just so we know the -- the expectation on the Chinese part are also quite realistic. They're -- they're looking at this as a long-running issue. They
certainly do not expect one meeting just to help them achieve this objective. They're going to hammer home this point at every meeting they
get going forward.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. No doubt, though, this threat, the export control over the rare earth minerals, I believe, China controls about 90 percent of the
world's rare earth minerals. I think that that's surprised not only the United States, but everyone. And some argue that could have been a bit of
an overreach for China to do, given that they were trying to come across as the stabilizing force here between the U.S. and China.
We'll see how these talks go. Very significant couple of days for the president ahead.
Lingling Wei, thank you so much.
WEI: Thank you.
ASHER: All right. Still to come here, Donald Trump doubles down, threatening to raise tariffs on Canada, but are Americans actually behind
him? Harry Enten is going to help us break down the numbers.
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ASHER: All right. Let's check and see how the U.S. markets are doing. The Dow is up 200 points or so. S&P 500 and NASDAQ, both up as well, roughly
around 1 to 1.5 percent.
This is your "Business Breakout."
GOLODRYGA: U.S. and Chinese officials have agreed on a framework for trade talks to take place later this week. Repaves a way for a meeting between
President Donald Trump and China's Xi Jinping, who are expected to meet Thursday in South Korea.
ASHER: Argentine financial markets are surging after President Javier Milei's party won a strong victory in midtown elections -- midterm, rather,
elections. The vote was largely seen as a referendum on Milei's radical economic reforms and austerity measures. Argentina's peso strengthened 10
percent against the dollar in Monday's early trade.
GOLODRYGA: Delta Airlines has announced plans to take travelers to the Middle East. Beginning in October of next year, it will fly three times a
week between Atlanta and the Saudi capital of Riyadh, becoming the first U.S. airline to fly direct to Saudi Arabia.
Delta says the new route will add to the flow of commerce and investment between the two countries.
ASHER: All right. Donald Trump isn't the only world leader visiting Asia right now. Canada's Mark Carney was in Malaysia on Monday attending the
ASEAN summit, asked about his sour relationship with the White House. Carney described the fresh tensions as a twist in a high-stakes
negotiation.
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President Trump, meantime, is continuing to lash out at Canada. It comes off the Trump threatened to increase tariffs on Canada by 10 percent, after
an unflattering commercial criticizing U.S. trade policy.
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TRUMP: Well, Canada lied. I mean, what they did was terrible. They made up a fake statement by President Reagan. Reagan was a big supporter of tariffs
when needed.
And we need tariffs for national security. And they totally turned it around because they're getting hurt by tariffs and we're gaining by
tariffs.
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GOLODRYGA: Trump hasn't said yet when those new tariffs could come into effect. But data shows that not all Americans are in favor of them
happening at all.
CNN's Harry Enten didn't trust us to come back live. Recorded this package for us.
ASHER: Live for us.
GOLODRYGA: He burned us. All right. Here's what Harry has to say.
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HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Bianna and Zain. Zain and Bianna, it's another Monday.
And that, of course, means we're talking about tariffs. Yet again, obviously, we're talking about potential trade deals with China. We're also
talking about Donald Trump wanting to put a 10 percent higher tariff on Canada, because the Ontario government decided to air an ad during the
World Series, going after Donald Trump using Ronald Reagan's words on tariffs.
But let me just tell you, there is nothing more that the American people have turned against Donald Trump on during his second term as president
then tariffs. What are we talking about here?
Well, let's take a look here. New tariffs on imported goods. You go back to when Donald Trump was re-elected back in November of 2024, 52 percent of
Americans favored new tariffs on imported goods. That is Donald Trump's tariff plan. Compared to 48 percent opposed. That was a four-point margin
in the favored direction.
You jump over to this side of the screen. Look at this. Giant switcheroo. We're talking about now 60 percent of Americans opposed to new tariffs on
imported goods compared to 40 percent in favor.
So we're talking about a 20-point margin of opposition compared to four percent or four percentage points in the favor column back a little bit
less than a year ago.
Now, the other thing I will note here is, of course, we're talking about Canada. New tariffs on Canada, even less popular. We're talking only about
36 percent of Americans in support of those.
Now, we're on the subject of Canada. There is perhaps no country that has been better liked than the American -- among the American people in Canada
over the past few years. And I got a nice little comparison for you.
OK. The net popularity rating in percentage points among Americans here in the U.S., Donald Trump and Canada. Look at this. Donald Trump under water
at minus 10 points. That's been pretty much the entire case or the case during the last six months of Donald Trump's second term.
You jump over to this side of the screen. Look at Canada. Canada, very popular among Americans. We're talking about a plus 49-point net popularity
rating. So that is Canada being, get this, nearly 60 points more popular than Donald Trump in Donald Trump's home country here in the United States
of America.
What a big difference Donald Trump going after an entity, a country that is far more popular than he is.
But what's the flip side of this point? How do Canadians feel about the United States of America? Well, take a look. I mean, we are talking about a
tremendous, a huge, huge shift over the last few years.
Canadians who say America is an enemy or potential threat. In 2023, back when Joe Biden was president, it was just seven percent of Canadians who
thought of the U.S. as an enemy or potential threat.
You come over to this side of the screen in 2025. Look at that. We're talking about nearly seven times, nearly seven times as many Canadians who
see America is either an enemy or potential threat.
We're talking 48 percent. And the Donald Trump administration, get this, has a negative 58-point net popularity rating among Canadians. They think
he is just a big giant hoser. My goodness gracious.
But I can tell you, Zain and Bianna, I don't think you're hosers. I think you're pretty gosh darn cool. Back to you.
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GOLODRYGA: OK. That was shocking to see the turn in Americans polling and how they view Canada.
Also a bit of a relief for us. We're told that Harry was traveling.
ASHER: It wasn't a rejection.
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
ASHER: As battery power devices become more common, so do the potential environmental and safety hazards hiding in our trash.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. In the U.K., one recycling plant is turning to artificial intelligence to spot these dangers before they ignite.
CNN's Allison Chinchar has more.
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ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): At a recycling plant in Sittingbourne, England, workers are tackling a danger in everyday trash,
fires erupting from the debris.
The cause is batteries, but one type in particular, found in phones, toys, power tools, and vapes. Lithium-ion batteries are the source of the flames.
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SCOTT BUTLER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MATERIAL FOCUS: And here you see a range of different types of batteries, all the different chemistries. But this
one is a particular new type that's causing a lot of challenges.
These are the lithium-ion batteries that charge vapes. And in the U.K. alone, were seeing eight million of these binned or littered every week.
CHINCHAR (voice-over): The highly flammable batteries can ignite when crushed, setting fire to surrounding waste.
BUTLER: We've seen in the U.K. significant increases in fires associated with vapes and batteries and hidden batteries inside electricals.
CHINCHAR (voice-over): The U.K. startup Lion Vision thinks A.I. could help stop the fires before they start.
The group has developed a camera-led tool that scans the debris flying through the conveyor belts, spotting and removing the lithium-ion batteries
before they spark trouble.
GEORGE HAWKINS, MACHINE LEARNING ENGINEER, LION VISION: So, we're using a camera system mounted above a belt, and that is connected to a computer
that is running an A.I. machine learning system that is scanning those images and looking for batteries and hazardous objects that we've trained
the A.I. algorithm what to detect.
CHINCHAR (voice-over): When the system identifies one, an air ejection bar fires a jet of compressed air to knock it safely out of the waste stream.
And Lion Vision says, with every pass, the system gets smarter.
HAWKINS: We're always looking at the data that we're collecting, detecting, and how we can improve that. So new batteries might come through, different
brands that we would then build back into our training data in order to deploy new models that can detect different brands of batteries.
CHINCHAR (voice-over): A high-tech fix for a growing waste problem, one that could make recycling safer and smarter for the future.
Allison Chinchar, CNN.
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GOLODRYGA: A couple's long lost love letters took an unexpected detour and it's because of a book they donated to a tiny library.
ASHER: Yes. Our CBS-affiliate in Philadelphia has this story of a chance discovery and a really heartwarming ending. Madeleine Wright reports.
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MADELEINE WRIGHT, CBS NEWS PHILADELPHIA REPORTER (voice-over): It may look like an ordinary wooden box, but this little free library where neighbors
can take a book, leave a book, had something extra special inside, a love story tucked between the pages.
MERCURI: Fate? I don't -- I just don't think there are many coincidences in life.
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WRIGHT (voice-over): Debi Mercuri was walking through Merwood Park with her four-year-old granddaughter, Parker, when the little girl picked up a book
from the free library and love letters fell out.
MERCURI: Oh, my gosh. I like held them to my heart right away. And, you know, again, being a hopeless romantic, I thought, oh, these are so
beautiful. These are keepsakes.
WRIGHT (voice-over): Curious, Mercuri posted a photo of the letters on Facebook, hoping to find out who they belong to.
MERCURI: The gentleman's nickname, I guess, is Stumps. And he had this little cartoon of a -- a dog that he drew. And I thought, someone is
absolutely going to know this guy. So immediately, someone said that they knew them.
WRIGHT (voice-over): That someone was Jennifer Cianciarulo. She saw the post on social media and realized the letters were hers and her husband,
Dan's. The couple had written them years ago during pre-Cana, a Catholic marriage preparation program.
WRIGHT: How did the letters end up in the book?
DAN CIANCIARULO, LOVE LETTER WRITER: I'm sure I was just using them for bookmarks, it's quite.
WRIGHT (voice-over): Dan, now a father of three, says the couple was clearing out their basement, but had no idea the letters were in there when
they donated the book "From Dude to Dad."
WRIGHT: What does it mean to you that a stranger took the time to find you instead of just throwing the letters away?
CIANCIARULO: It's incredibly cool. So I'm -- I'm really excited to -- to meet Debi.
WRIGHT (voice-over): And the feeling is mutual.
MERCURI: I was going to drive them over to their place. And, of course, I'm going to be excited to handle ever of them and, obviously, give them a big
hug.
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GOLODRYGA: I see a movie in the future --
ASHER: It sound like a movie, doesn't it? Just sweet story.
GOLODRYGA: All right.
ASHER: That does it for this hour of "One World." I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. Thanks so much for watching. I'll be right back with "Amanpour" in just a few minutes.
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