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Supreme Court Hears Arguments on Legality of Trump Tariffs; NYC Mayor-Elect Zohran Mamdani Speaks After Election Win; Voters Reject Trump as Longest Ever Shutdown Drags on; At Least Nine Dead in Kentucky UPS Plane Crash; Mounting Evidence of Massacre by Rebel Forces; Brendan Fraser, Rachel Weisz May Feature in New Installment. Aired 11a-12p ET

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CHRISTINA MACFARLANE, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Live from London. I'm Christina Macfarlane. This is "One World", and we are following multiple breaking

news stories this hour. Democrats celebrate the party sweeps key elections across the country. It's what being seen as a barometer of voter sentiment

around Trump's second term.

This as New York City gets its first Muslim Mayor, Zohran Mamdani, who is expected to speak this hour, we will bring you that live once it begins.

Plus, a blockbuster battle that could determine the fate of President Trump's global tariffs, as the U.S. Supreme Court hears a case Trump is

calling life or death for the country.

Also, this hour, we'll get an update from federal and state officials in Louisville, Kentucky, where a UPS plane went down just moments after

takeoff. The U.S. Supreme Court is right now hearing arguments that could have a profound economic consequence for the global economy, but at the

heart of it all is the issue of executive power and how far it goes.

The case involves Donald Trump's emergency tariffs on nearly every U.S. trading partner. The president claims he doesn't need congressional

approval to impose those levies, but lower courts have ruled that Trump has exceeded his authority. Now it's up to the High Court, which is controlled

by a conservative majority, to determine whether the president has the power to unilaterally set tariff rates under the emergency law.

Well, critics say the case really comes down to the separation of powers and the rule of law in America. Now, the court won't issue a ruling today.

It's likely to hand down its decision sometime before the end of June. David Weinstein is a former state and federal prosecutors, also partner at

Jones Walker LLP and the Former Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida.

He joins me now live from Miami. David, so great to have you with us this hour. As I was saying that the decision is not expected to come today from

the Supreme Court, but the arguments that we have been hearing over the past hour will provide us clues, perhaps, as to which way the justices are

leaning.

And we know that President Trump's Attorney, John Sauer has been pressed by justices in the past hour, facing, actually, some deep skepticism, it

seems, from several of the key conservative justices. I know you've been listening in. So just give us your take on what you've heard so far.

DAVID WEINSTEIN, FORMER STATE & FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Well, Christina, they have been very hard on him, and they do appear to be somewhat skeptical of

the arguments he's making. That is the executive has this on refined power to impose an emergency under the International Economic Emergency Powers

Act, IEEPA, which is what they keep talking about, and that the emergency exists.

He declared it, and then he's using his power to regulate. But they keep coming back to the words in the statute. We're all getting a taste of what

lawyers experience every day. They keep trying to ask him how is regulate allow the president to impose a tax. And we're hearing that not just from

the conservative judges and liberal judges as well.

And so, we expected it from the liberal judges, but perhaps not from the conservative judges. And so, they're taking a strong line here, and

certainly they're trying to also let the parties know that prior decisions that dealt with this particular act, specifically the Nixon case, that was

refined and confined to that one decision.

And so, I think we're seeing where the arguments are going and where the opinion might be going that they realize this is a very broad-based

question. It's one where they now finally have to get to the meat of an issue at hand. And perhaps this is a time where we're going to see them

rein in the presidential powers, unlike decisions we've seen in the past.

MACFARLANE: And can you just expand on what you were saying there about the wording that you've been hearing -- David, because we knew ahead of this

hearing that it was important to look out for how a tariff was defined. You know, the wording around that, that was important.

What deliberations have there been over that? And what does that say about the case that they are building here, and how they're going to continue

their line of questioning?

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WEINSTEIN: Well, many of the judges, justices, keep focusing on the word regulate. And so, for them, regulate doesn't mean tax. For them, and we've

heard it a couple of times. If Congress meant you to be able to tax and regulate, they would have used the word tax and regulate.

So, what they're saying is the word regulate doesn't mean tax. And what does regulate mean to them? In several of the questions, it has meant the

import of certain items into the U.S. You can regulate how it comes in. You as the executive, don't have the power to tax it. That's something that

only Congress can do.

And so, they're asking Sauer to tell them, where in the statute does it say that regulate means tax? It's not in there, in their opinion, or at least

many of the questions that have been coming forward. That's why we heard some questions about this. Congress has the power to delegate that, and

again, why they talk about -- so they're really focusing hard on that.

MACFARLANE: I'm afraid, David, we're going to have to cut away from you just a moment as the mayor-elect for New York City is speaking, let's go to

Mamdani, Zohran Mamdani.

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ZOHRAN MAMDANI, NEW YORK MAYOR-ELECT: Last night, we made history. I'm so proud to be standing here today as the mayor-elect of the greatest city in

the world. Over 2 million New Yorkers cast their ballots, whether they were the more than million who supported this campaign or the others who

supported someone else, or whether they felt too disappointed by the political process to participate at all.

I will work every day to honor the trust that I now hold. The poetry of campaigning may have come to a close last night at nine, but the beautiful

prose of governing has only just begun. The hard work of improving New Yorkers lives starts now. That process begins with transition.

In the coming months, I and my team will build a city hall capable of delivering on the promises of this campaign. We will form an administration

that is in equal parts capable and compassionate, driven by integrity and willing to work just as hard as the millions of New Yorkers who call this

city home.

And central to that effort is a transition team that is defined by the excellence. New Yorkers will soon come to expect from government. Our team

will be directed by Elana Leopold, whose roots in this city extend back to her grandmother running the trams on Roosevelt Island.

She has extensive experience in city government, and has been a key part of our campaign to become the next mayor of this city, and it will be led by

our formidable co-chairs, Former Federal Trade Commissioner Chair Lina Khan, Former First Deputy Mayor, Maria Torres-Springer, United Way

President and CEO, Grace Bonilla and Former Deputy Mayor for Health and Human Services, Melanie Hartzog.

Over the coming days, we'll start announcing the leaders who will implement our agenda. People like deputy mayors who oversee entire areas of

government and the commissioners who carry out the critical work of city agencies. Some of these people will have familiar names.

Others will not. What will unite them will be a commitment to solving old problems with new solutions. We will cast a wide net. We will speak to the

organizers on the front lines of the fight to improve our city, government veterans with proven track records, policy experts from around the country

and the world, and working people who know better than anyone what their neighborhoods need.

Throughout this campaign, I have worked hard to be accessible and transparent with New Yorkers. That same spirit will animate this transition

and the city hall we build, because New Yorkers deserve a government that they can trust. And on January 1st, when our city celebrates the

inauguration of a new administration, let us also celebrate a new era for our city.

One that we all feel invested in, and whose success we all work to achieve. Now it is my pleasure to invite Elana Leopold to deliver a few words. Thank

you.

ELANA LEOPOLD, POLITICAL STRATEGIST: Thank you. Good morning. My name is Elana Leopold, and I'm very honored to serve as the Executive Director of

Mayor-elect Mamdani's leadership team. I want to thank Zohran for his faith in me, both on the campaign trail and in this next exciting chapter of this

movement.

As a third generation New Yorker, raised in Mitchell-Lama housing and educated at CUNY, I bring to this work a deep appreciation for the city's

promise and a commitment to expanding it for others. I love the city deeply, and I'm so grateful for the opportunity to help shape its future.

I'm also expecting a child soon.

And so, I want the future that she inherits to be one of possibility and opportunity, and I want my new family, like so many others, to be able to

rely on the universal child care that Zohran campaigned on.

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I know from firsthand experience that no one will fight harder for New Yorkers than Zohran. He has the vision and ambition necessary to drive down

the cost of living so that families like mine can afford to live in the city we've built. I cannot wait to help our next mayor build a government

for and by all New Yorkers. Thank you.

GRACE BONILLA, UNITED WAY PRESIDENT AND CEO: Good morning. My name is Grace Bonilla, and I am excited to be with all of you today. I want to

congratulate Mayor-elect Mamdani on his historic victory and a campaign that captured the imagination of so many and centered the needs of working

New Yorkers as a North Star.

I'm honored to be part of a transition team and eager to work with you to build an administration that will work --

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MACFARLANE: That was Mayor-elect for New York City, Zohran Mamdani, speaking there alongside his team who he was presenting an all-female team.

It has to be said, after that sweeping victory, yesterday. He was declaring a new era for our city, saying that the hard work of improving New Yorkers

lives begins now.

And that we will build a city hall capable of delivering on the promises of this campaign. Well, let's talk a bit more about this with CNN's Senior

Political Reporter Stephen Collinson, who's been listening in. And Stephen, it was interesting to hear him say, the hard work begins now, because we

know this was one of the most ambitious mayoral campaigns perhaps ever, and he promised an awful lot.

He pledged an awful lot. Now the question is, can he make it a reality when we know that the Republican Party and President Trump will be waiting if in

the wings if he does not.

STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: Yeah, he has made some big promises, free childcare, free busses, even government run stores to bring

down the price of groceries. So, as he said himself, he has to now convert the poetry of campaigning into the prose of governing.

That's somewhat of an ironic statement, because that phrase, you campaign in poetry and you govern in prose was coined by Mario Cuomo, the Former

Mayor, Former Governor of New York, who is the father of the man Andrew Cuomo, Mamdani the beat here. So that can be the question everyone on the

Republican Party is going to be looking out for Mamdani to fail in order for them to portray him as the authentic face of the Democratic Party.

Democrats, I think, would point to the two women who won campaigns last night in New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial races who are far more

centrists and probably more suited to the wider electorates. Let's remember, New York has an exceedingly liberal electorate overall.

So, the policies that Mamdani has advanced there and which were successful there aren't going to work everywhere. But underlying all of this in all of

these successful Democratic campaigns, whether they're centrist or left wing, like the one in New York, is the idea that Donald Trump has not made

Americans lives better, everything, health care, groceries, housing is more expensive.

MACFARLANE: Yeah.

COLLINSON: And that is, I think, the key takeaway from this election.

MACFARLANE: Yeah, and, its -- which should be said, that this is happening against the backdrop of now the longest shutdown. You know, it's now a

historic length. And we heard President Trump blaming the shutdown earlier for those Republican losses across the country.

And still showing very little sign of wanting to meet with Democrats or back down. Instead, he said actually he was upping the stakes calls to

terminate the filibuster. So, what does all of that say about how long America is basically going to be stuck in this power struggle?

COLLINSON: I think that the costs now are becoming absolutely acute. In terms of the number of Americans who rely on government health and

nutrition, about 12 percent of the population, they're not getting their checks federal workers. And it was interesting this morning, in a meeting

with Republicans at the White House, the president did well on the costs of the shutdown, far more than he has in the past.

He has not yet moderated his position that the answer to all of this is that Democrats must completely capitulate, but that may be starting to prey

on his mind. And it will also be interesting to see how these big Democratic wins last night factor into this. Will Democrats now believe

they have the political cover after standing up to Trump to maybe seek some kind of compromise way out of this?

The flip side to that is that progressives are going to be very much energized by Mamdani's victory in New York. They are not going to want any

kind of concession to Trump. They're going to want guarantees that these health care subsidies are going to be restored before they agree to vote to

reopen the government.

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So, this split in the Democratic Party could well factor into the way that this shutdown ends. But as I say, the costs are increasing so much that

it's going to be incumbent on both parties at some point, I think, especially with thanksgiving, the big travel rush looming at the end of the

month to try and get this to an end.

MACFARLANE: Yeah, and politically, there is a lot of overlap in this moment. You know, we saw Democrats choosing to take attack, take a stand on

health care when it came to this shutdown, and it seems now, as you point out, to be dovetailing with a much broader theme gathering momentum for

Democrats, as we've seen the last day of the cost of living, which is something that all three candidates in New Jersey, Virginia, New York City,

did campaign on, and all of them successfully.

So, if we're looking at the longer game here, you know, looking ahead to the midterm elections next year, how much opportunity is there in this

moment for Democrats to build on this momentum, if they can sort out those internal divisions?

COLLINSON: I think there's a lot of momentum, because, you know, their great failing so far this year is that they don't have any power, and they

haven't been able to influence any of Trump's policies. Now, the fact that they don't have power allows them to pull all the blame for what Americans

increasingly coming to see as quite difficult economic conditions on the president and the Republicans.

And the Republicans therefore also have a problem, because they -- if you're a moderate, say, Republican in New York or California, who is going

to be key in the Republican effort to try and keep their House majority, in some ways, you it would make sense to start running against an unpopular

president.

But the problem with that is Trump might be unpopular across the broad swath of the population, but he's still deeply popular among his loyal 42

percent or so of Republican base voters. So, any Republican candidate who tries to create some distance with the president is going to find

themselves in trouble in primary campaigns and may not get the turnout he needs from Republicans.

So, it's a real conundrum for them. I think what they would hope is that the White House perhaps takes far more seriously the need to reduce grocery

prices help people with rent than it has so far. After all, this was one of the big messages of the 2024 election.

MACFARLANE: And I just wanted to get your perspective, Stephen, while I have you on the prop 50 vote in California, which, of course, also passed

yesterday, and it shouldn't really pass without comment because of the precedent this sets. And again, if we look ahead, how likely are we do you

think to see blue states get involved in an escalating redistricting war now as a result of this?

COLLINSON: Yeah, what this was all about was Trump, earlier this year, went to Texas and have them redistrict a lot of the House races to make it far

harder for Democrats to win even the few seats in Texas that they typically win. Republican Democrats in California responded by doing --

MACFARLANE: Stephen -- sorry -- you might get back.

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MAMDANI: Yeah, I look forward to being the mayor for every person that calls this city home, that includes the Jewish New Yorkers that voted for

our campaign and those that didn't. My responsibility is to all 8.5 million New Yorkers. And we chose this location as a reflection of the borough that

I serve.

And the fact that we are proud to be known as the world's borough, and for far too long, that embrace of so much of what makes New York City special,

so much of what makes it the place that we are proud to call it our home, it has been missing in our leaders -- and I'm excited -- exciting, more

frankly, to deliver on an agenda of affordability, alongside these incredible co-chairs for New Yorkers across the five boroughs.

-- I look at these four incredible co-chairs of our transition team, and what I see are those who have had their careers defined by an excellence

that we want to characterize the very city hall that we are looking to build.

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These will be the leaders of our transition, and also this transition will expand and extend beyond any one specific set of issue areas. So, the

topics of education and public safety continue to be of immense importance. We continue to prepare for the delivery on those very issues alongside the

others that concern New Yorkers and that will be the work of the next 57 days.

And just to your second question, I am willing to consider anyone to work in my city hall, so long as they are committed to working for my

administration and to delivering on an agenda to lower costs for New Yorkers in the most expensive city of the United States.

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MACFARLANE: You have been listening to Mayor-elect of New York City, Zohran Mamdani. They're taking questions after his first speech he's given since

winning the election yesterday. Let's bring back Stephen Collinson, who -- sorry for cutting you off a little bit earlier there, Stephen, but listen

while we have Zohran Mamdani here speaking, introducing there's four co- chairs of his new transition team, all women.

Just talk to us a bit more about what this win signifies, not just because he is the first South Asian, the first Muslim, the youngest mayor, but how

this could really represent a break with the past.

COLLINSON: I think what's so fascinating is that a year ago today, we were sitting, talking about Trump's victory in the 2024 election. That was

enabled partly because President Biden decided to run again for a second term that would have ended when he was 86.

Now one year later, we have a 34-year-old that most people outside New York had never heard about before, who's launched this very sort of -- amazing

sort of campaign, which has energized a lot of younger voters. And while his policies, I think, for many Democrats, will be far too left wing, and

they worry that that will be what the Republicans will use to exemplify their party.

The Democrats have to find a way to tap into that youthful enthusiasm, the sense of a new generation that is turning in democratic politics. And I

think the way that they liaise that with the more moderate centrist Democrats, like the ones that won in Virginia and New Jersey, will be what

they have to do over the next year to try and make a viable midterm election message.

MACFARLANE: Stephen, we really appreciate you hanging in there on all these topics and rolling with it. Stephen Collinson there. And we will be back

still to come. We have a search and rescue mission continuing in Kentucky after a UPS cargo plane crash killing at least nine people.

We'll have more on the investigation coming up. And later, the two-year civil war in Sudan has killed tens of thousands and displaced millions will

get a first-hand account from a journalist in Sudan.

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MACFARLANE: At least nine people have died after a UPS cargo plane crashed in Louisville, Kentucky. And a warning you may find the following video of

the incident disturbing. The plane, bound for Hawaii was loaded with 144,000 liters of fuel when it crashed shortly after takeoff, Tuesday

evening, erupting into a massive ball of fire.

Plumes of smoke and flames could be seen from miles away. Officials say all three crew members on board are presumed dead. The death toll expected to

rise as more than a dozen families have reported loved ones missing. CNN's Pete Muntean is joining us with more on the crash investigation this hour.

And Pete, just do bring us up to date with the latest on that investigation. I know we're expecting to hear from the Kentucky Governor

soon.

PETE MUNTEAN, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, you know the important thing to stress right now is that there's no real clear cause yet. And

investigators tell me it's much too early to speculate on why this unfolded, but the early visual clues are painting a picture that UPS 2996

was, 2976 was doomed from the very start.

This is our clearest view yet of the moments leading up to the crash. And investigators will go through this video, no doubt, frame by frame, you can

see a few key things here. You can see the flames coming from the left wing. It is possible the flames are coming from the left engine.

You can also see the nose of the airplane is up, but it is very much struggling to get airborne. To give you some context, this is the same

plane back in 2021 it's an MD-11F built by McDonnell Douglas before the company was bought by Boeing. You can see the number one engine there under

the left wing.

The number two engine is that one on the tail, the number three engine obscured in this photograph under the right wing. Also, some key forensic

clues for investigators on the ground. An aerial video shows what appears to be the outer covering of an engine known as a cowling on the takeoff

runway.

There are also these images surfacing showing an entire engine lying next to that takeoff runway. The challenge now for investigators fitting these

clues into a timeline of events that was very, very short. According to the publicly available flight tracking data the time from the moment this

flight lined up on Louisville's Runway 17 right to the moment of impact was only about one minute.

It's important to stress here that take off probably the worst time for a fire to break out. You're low to the ground, low on-air speed, with the

fewest possible options. It is the exact reason why professional pilots drill for takeoff emergencies in simulators all the time.

MACFARLANE: And Pete, I don't know if we can just go back to those images there of that plane engine lying there on the runway, but how important

will that engine be in helping determine what actually happened here? Because from what I've read, that is somewhat intact.

MUNTEAN: It is somewhat intact. And you can see on the right side of that engine, that's where the fan blades would be. There's the compressor

section and then the turbine section there, right to left. That is something that investigators will look at very closely.

And of course, they'll want to know about the placement of the engine, where it sits in that debris field there on Runway 17 right in Louisville

that is so key, and they'll be able to sort of pick apart some of the forensic details. They even call them ground scars, from how that engine

ended up there.

What is not clear right now is why it is there? What were the events that took place that led that engine to be there? And it's not even clear which

engine it is from the one of three engines on this MD-11. Was it the left engine? Was it the engine in the tail, or was it the right engine?

So, a lot of big questions here, but a lot of new details unfolding, and the images are really key for investigators. They'll no doubt be going

through all of them.

MACFARLANE: All right, we'll, of course, continue to follow this. Pete, appreciate it. Thank you. OK, still ahead, witnesses fleeing a besieged

city in the Darfur region of Sudan described violence and abuse at the hands of the RSF. We'll have a live report on the situation there when we

return.

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MACFARLANE: The U.S. Supreme Court's hearing on Donald Trump's tariffs is nearing the 90-minute mark. And the justices are currently questioning Neal

Katyal. He's representing a group of businesses suing to block the tariffs. Let's listen in.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With the bare statutory language regulate importation. If we disregard all of the rest, would you dispute that? That would include

the imposition of a fee.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, if it's revenue, we do dispute that. Absolutely.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What if there were a statute that said, I mean, suppose that there's a particular national park that's very crowded, and Congress

passes a statute that says the National Park Service may regulate admission to the park? Would you say, well, that does not allow them to impose a fee?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, you know, your sometimes we think of fees as not revenue raising, but rather capturing the cost of government services in

your example, the going to the park, that made, you know, those kinds of cases which you think --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- it goes beyond the cost of running the park -- just wants to control admission to the park. Regulated mission. Wouldn't that

include the imposition of the fee?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, if it doesn't raise revenue, then it's not about that. Then I think that's fine if it does --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- It raises revenue that --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's a tougher --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- hypothetical that wouldn't apply.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, I think in that circumstance, that it wouldn't be a regulation, in context, it wouldn't be permitted. That is, at least in the

context of tariffs and trade. We know Justice Alito --

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- that gets into your other arguments. Start out with the bear statutory language, and that's -- that was what my question was

about. Do you think all tariffs are revenue raising? Suppose that instead of imposing these across-the-board tariffs, suppose that an executive order

imposed a tariff on one particular --

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MACFARLANE: We are actually going to leave the U.S. Supreme Court and take you to Louisville, Kentucky, where the state's governor is giving an update

on the deadly UPS cargo plane crash. Let's listen in.

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GOV. ANDY BESHEAR (D-KY): Louisville Metro Police Training Academy, which remains open. That address is 2911, Taylor Boulevard. As of last night,

there had been 16 different families there. I think the mayor is providing an update where that number may now have shrank.

At least information I'm getting is those families may not line up with the hospital patients, which means we've got to continue to search that site.

Hope and pray for the best, but know there may be more loss of life that we're going to learn about today. Two businesses were directly impacted

Kentucky petroleum recycling and grade A auto parts.

Thankfully, a local restaurant that is right there that we had great concern would be impacted and we would lose whoever was in it was missed,

and now is helping the search and rescue. We're grateful for them. Another blessing is this plane could have potentially hit the major Ford factory or

the convention center.

Those are all close by and did not. The radius for the shelter in place has been significantly reduced. Louisville Metro is putting out guidance to

residents and businesses immediately around the crash site to not consume water. EEC, the Energy and Environment Cabinet, is working closely with the

city on this.

Other areas are safe. Now, if you are in the suburbs, if you're in other parts of Louisville, you are as safe today as you've been any other day.

The air is fine, your water is fine, but that immediately around the crash site, we're just trying to be very careful. The new news today, following

yesterday's events, I'm declaring a state of emergency to help us deal with this plane crash.

It allows us to move resources more quickly through emergency management and the Kentucky National Guard. It allows state resources to be used also

through our agencies, to be readily available, including disaster resource management expenses related to response and more, as well as reimbursement.

It's going to help to make sure that groups that are already limited in terms of their funding can get some immediate or short-term help as they

wait for reimbursement for the costs that they've expended. Additionally, I've taken action to establish the team Kentucky emergency relief fund to

help those affected by this terrible event.

The URL for this site is going to be on the screen. Similar to previous storm disaster funds, every dollar donated will go directly to those

affected. In fact, what we've done is we've gone and amended the team Kentucky storm relief fund to now allow families impacted by a disaster

like this to also benefit from the generosity of Kentuckians.

Remember, the first thing that we pay for out of these funds are funerals. So that in a time of grief, nobody is worried about that in Kentucky, we

grieve together and we support one another. Donations will help pay for funerals and for response, recovery and rebuilding.

All right, while Kentucky is responding to this crisis in Louisville following yesterday's deadly plane crash, we must also remember the

challenges that our families are facing due to a lack of SNAP benefits brought on by the Trump Administration. This is a program that was under

attack early by the president following the big, ugly bill.

That's why in June, I wrote a letter to Kentucky's congressional delegation urging them to consider the harmful impacts of this legislation and how it

would hit our people, because SNAP is crucial for Kentucky. In our commonwealth, over 600,000 Kentuckians rely on SNAP.

That's one of eight of our people, many of which are kids. These families need this support to avoid going hungry. But on October 1st, the federal

shutdown began, and this now, today marks the longest shutdown in the history of our country. From the start of the shutdown, the president made

it clear that this program would be at risk.

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In fact, the Trump Administration stopped the federal government from paying out SNAP benefits for November, and also stopped states from flowing

state funds through SNAP to pay out those benefits, and that's despite the USDA's website saying that he could fund SNAP benefits even in a shutdown.

Americans should never be a negotiating tool. And I am committed to taking action to do what we can to stand up for our people. So, on October 20th, I

announced that while we were exploring options for SNAP, we had two updates that would help many who rely on this program.

First, after learning our area development districts had exhausted the nearly $10 million dollars in funding for senior meals, I announced that we

were able to move $9.1 million to help fund that program. Took a lot of work to find a solution. Thankfully, we did, and the general assembly

leadership agreed to move forward with that plan.

That day also announced that for November, during the shutdown, that we could cover the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, or TANF program

that the federal government was not going to fund. That was about $12 million that's helping our people, many of which also get SNAP benefits.

Following that update on October 24th, we received a letter from the USDA confirming what had already been threatened. The letter said it was

suspending all November 2025 --

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MACFARLANE: That was Andy Beshear, Kentucky's Governor, giving us an update on the search and rescue operation underway, saying that the death toll in

Louisville still stands at nine, but is likely to rise. Also saying that they will be putting emergency measures in place to help the local

community there of Louisville come to terms with this disaster. We will be right back after this short break. Stay with us.

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MACFARLANE: The U.N. Secretary General is warning that the war in Sudan is spiraling out of control. Antonio Guterres is calling for an immediate

ceasefire between Sudan's military and rebel forces. It comes two years into a civil war that has sparked one of the world's worst humanitarian

crises.

Things took an even darker turn after the Rapid Support Forces, or RSF, took over El Fasher last week after besieging it for 18 months and cutting

off food and other supplies.

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The city was the final stronghold of the Sudanese army in the Western Darfur region. And there's mounting evidence RSF fighters committed a

massacre as they took over the city. Hundreds of civilians have reportedly been killed. The RSF have denied the atrocities, but online videos,

satellite images and testimonies from witnesses tell a different story.

Survivors speak of summary executions and mass killings, and there is growing concern about those still trapped inside El Fasher.

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MOUNA HANEBALI, MSF MEDICAL REFERENT TEAM LEADER: One of our main fears concerns all civilians still trapped in El Fasher. Will they be able to

leave? What are their conditions right now? The situation of those who are arriving is very worrying, malnutrition, lack of medical care, and a lack

of all basic necessities, starting with water and food.

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MACFARLANE: Well for more on the situation in Sudan, let's bring in AlMigdad Hassan. He's a Correspondent for Al Arabiya network, and joins us

now from Port Sudan. Thank you so much for your time today. After the horror of the killing that we saw in El Fasher last week, there is very

huge concern for what may come next.

And today, we have seen there are reports of an attack on a funeral in a key city in North Kordofan, which is currently held by Sudanese armed

forces. Before we get to El Fasher, can you just tell us what you've been hearing about that?

ALMIGDAD HASSAN, AL ARABIYA CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Thank you, Christina and CNN International for having me on this show. And the situation in North

Kordofan and especially in Darfur region, is heartbreaking, especially after the reports and our sources, they told us that is a masculine in El

Fasher and a masculine even in Barah. Barah, which is a key town city lie 40 kilometers north of El-Obeid.

And attack that by -- drone attack by the Rapid Support Forces on a funeral is in the city, is in the village near to El-Obeid. El-Obeid, held by the

Sudanese army and the Rapid Support Forces right now are trying to attack this city. So, this heartbreaking incidents in this village, the U.N.

officials say that more than 40 were killed in this drone attack by a Rapid Support Forces.

People were gathering to mourn someone in the village, and suddenly, drone attack, this funeral and drone attack, more than 40 Sudanese people have

been killed and more than 50 have been injured due to local -- especially the local support, the local officials and the local resources told us by

the tragedy in this area.

So, what meant next in the Darfur region and in the Kordofan region, both side the government, led by the Sudanese armed forces and the Rapid Support

Forces are gathering and massing to make a battleground in Kordofan state, especially around El-Obeid, one of the key strategic cities in North

Kordofan. And I think the upcoming months will be intensified in fighting on the ground.

MACFARLANE: I mean, it's a worrying sign of how quickly this is already escalating, getting worse, moving to the north. We hope -- we heard the

Sudanese ambassador to the UK yesterday, saying that the RSF are already making public announcements naming communities, people, ethnic groups that

they are planning to target next.

What are you -- is that what you're hearing and how much fear is there right now for how quickly this could escalate?

HASSAN: Yes, definitely in Darfur region and in Kordofan region, especially after the Rapid Support Forces took over El Fasher last week, they are a

terror you know, like people are terrified from the upcoming days, from the terrorists that have been facing by the Rapid Support Forces, especially

after the mass killing and mass graves.

Right now, we have received a special report from Yale University talk about a mass grave inside the City of El Fasher that the Rapid Support

Forces are right now are burying the victims inside, inside El Fasher. And the people right now trapped inside the city, trying to leave the city to

more safer places controlled by the Sudanese army, especially in the north and east state.

They are thousands have been fled El Fasher in -- few days.

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The IOM said that more than 70,000s right now are sheltering in City of Tawila. And all of these civilians definitely are terrified by what's

happening from the RSF fighters in the past few days. And we think that the escalating -- the escalator of this event will continue the upcoming days

and months,

MACFARLANE: Yeah, and there is real fear, as you say, for those who are still trapped in El Fasher, but also for those who have fled and are still

missing, I want to ask you about humanitarian aid. You mentioned the town there of Tawila, which is where many fled to from El Fasher.

How much -- do you know how much aid is able to get through to towns like Tawila right now, where thousands really are in need?

HASSAN: To speak about the humanitarian workers and aid workers, they said, U.N. officials say that they can't reach City of El Fasher and City of

Tawila because they are many blocks by the Rapid Support Forces and the aides are like ready to deliver whenever the permits allow by the Rapid

Support Forces.

But our sources in Tawila told us that they are many Sudanese families. More than 70000s have fled El Fasher right now, lying on in an open air

like there is no enough food for them, there is no medicine, they need lifesaving aids right now, and the aid lifesaving can't reach them to

elevate the hard situation and hard condition for them.

So I think that things is deteriorating, especially for those who have fled El Fasher towards Tawila, but when we compare it towards north and east

state, under control of the Sudanese army and the government, they are many shelter by the Sudanese government and aid workers have reached the City of

Al Dabbah that received more than 10,000s of Sudanese people have fled and El Fasher in the past few days, on their foot.

They like 800 kilometers from El Fasher to Al Dabbah, which is a far, far away from their wall town. And I think they are in desperate need, in

necessity such as food, water and shelter and lifesaving aid.

MACFARLANE: Yeah, it is. They are facing just unprecedented and destructive conditions there. AlMigdad Hassan, we really appreciate you giving us the

latest on that. And we will, of course, continue to follow this and check back in with you. Thank you. And we'll be right back after this.

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MACFARLANE: Finally, this hour, could it be that the mummy is set to walk again? You're looking at the huge 1999 hit starring Brendan Fraser and

Rachel Weisz. But the buzz now is that it's being resurrected. The website deadline says Fraser and Weisz are in talks to reunite for a brand-new

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No official announcement just yet, but we have the next best thing the writer said to be behind the new script. Seem to confirm the news on social

media, tweeting cats out of the back. That makes me one very happy person indeed. And that is it for us here on "One World", a busy hour. Stay tuned.

Our second hour is coming up with Bianna next.

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