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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: From Pakistan to Washington detente (ph) diplomacy is the name of the game.

BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If Iran doesn't live up to their agreement or if they're not behaving, I will -- I will do what I have

to do.

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GOLODRYGA: There's talking the talk. There's walking the walk. And diplomacy now and full swing on several fronts to keep the peace.

ASHER: Also ahead, from nervous energy to full-on route, how a tech sell- off on Wall Street led to historic day in Seoul.

Plus.

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SAVANNA STONE, CONSERVATIVE INFLUENCER: Feminism is the biggest lie we have ever been sold as women.

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GOLODRYGA: The summit is about women in leadership, but some attendees say the word feminism is being twisted by the left.

ASHER: And later, the match that everyone is talking about, England versus Ghana. They're set to go head to head in the men's World Cup.

All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.

GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You are watching the second hour of "One World."

America's top diplomat is expected in the Middle East this hour, aiming to sell the memorandum of understanding agreed between the U.S. and Iran to

the Gulf nations hit hardest by the war.

Marco Rubio is arriving first in the UAE before visiting Bahrain and Kuwait.

ASHER: Yes. The same time U.S.-mediated talks between Israel and Lebanon are underway in Washington. The Lebanese president says the Israeli

occupation of southern Lebanon must come to an end. Diplomacy also in full force in Pakistan. The Iranian president is there for talks following the

U.S.-Iran discussions in Switzerland.

Jeremy Diamond is following all of these developments for us. We've also got Kevin Liptak at the White House as well.

Kevin, let's begin with you. One of the key sort of sticking points, I mean, there are so many sticking points, let's be honest, but one of the

sort of more recent sticking points, I should say, is the fact that you have Donald Trump coming out and saying that Iran has agreed to allow

nuclear inspectors, in his words, to infinity, Iran disputing that, of course.

So, where do things stand on that front, Kevin, now?

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Right. And it seems like the question is not necessarily whether the IAEA will be able to go into Iran

at all. Iran has maintained a relationship with them for a number of years.

I guess here's Marco.

ASHER: All right. Kevin -- Kevin, I have to interrupt you because Marco Rubio is speaking now. Let's listen in.

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MARCO RUBIO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: Things in Iran. I'm not promising that that's the choice they're going to make. I'm saying if that's the

choice that they make, then there will be opportunity. And those opportunities could include investment. As you've seen other countries in

this region benefit from investment, from foreign direct investment. It won't be our investment, it won't be our government money. But I think that

is something that's going to have to depend on progress made on a host of other security issues that -- that -- that have to be confronted in the --

in the days to come.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Lebanese and Israel official are meeting in Washington as we speak.

RUBIO: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is it your position that that process should be separate from Iran peace deal?

RUBIO: Well, that process is separate. It's separate because Lebanon is a sovereign country. It has a government. And when it comes to Lebanon,

what's happening inside of Lebanon, we're going to negotiate and deal directly with the Lebanese government.

I spoke to President Aoun, along with the vice president, a few moments ago, spoke to him on Friday. Their people are there now on the ground

directly.

So, the reason why that issue is always -- now, there's an Iranian issue with regards to Lebanon, and that is their support and sponsorship of

Hezbollah. And so that factor will be discussed as part of our conversation with the Iranians.

But as far as the future of Lebanon, the future of Lebanon belongs to the Lebanese people, through their sovereign elected government. And that's who

we're going to be working with.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) going to be addressed in the MOU. Are you trying to use concerns to allies here in -- in the region?

RUBIO: Well, that -- that most certainly will come up in these conversations. And there are items outside the MOU that are certainly going

to be covered, but that's one that will have to be covered. It will be discussed.

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I think a careful reading of the MOU will see that when you talk about, for example, a complete end of hostilities in the entire region, well, that's

not possible. You can't have the end of hostilities and conflicts in the region as long as Iranian proxies are launching missiles and drones from

Iraq and are participating in terrorism like Hamas did and like Hezbollah did.

So, I do think it's covered by the MOU. And it is an issue that we've gotten to with the appropriate time and these negotiations.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me ask you about Hormuz, if possible. Can the U.S. and allies, can they guarantee navigation -- freedom of navigation in the

Strait?

RUBIO: Well, that's the law. These are -- it's an international waterway. No country is allowed to charge tolls or fees on an international waterway.

That's existing international law. That's the way it is. And international waterway is all over the world. And that's the way we expect it'll be here.

So, I don't think we have anybody to convince around here in that regard. I think all the countries in this region would agree with us.

All right. See you tomorrow.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.

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ASHER: All right. U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio speaking there.

I want to bring back Kevin Liptak who's joining us live now from outside the White House to sort of respond to some of the comments that the

secretary of state was making there.

Kevin, there are so many issues right now, not to mention the issue with Lebanon including also the issue as to whether or not nuclear energy

inspectors will be able to go in and inspect damage, nuclear sites.

Also, the issue of that $300 billion investment funds that Marco Rubio is really trying to convince Gulf partners that that is a good idea. You've

got Israel looking at that money and thinking, well, they're obviously going to use that money from -- from the Israeli perspective to fund

Hezbollah.

There's so many issues and Marco Rubio has a massive task ahead of him, especially when it comes to really convincing these Gulf States that they

are safer now than before this war actually started.

LIPTAK: Yes. And it will be a delicate task, I think, particularly for someone who has not really been a face of this effort whatsoever. You know,

he has really relegated the diplomacy to J.D. Vance. He has kind of receded to the background in a lot of ways.

It's interesting to hear him try and say that this effort to come up with the ceasefire in Lebanon is totally separate from the Iran diplomacy when

in fact the first paragraph of the memorandum of understanding says that the fighting and the hostilities would end across the region, including in

Lebanon.

They are sort of inextricably tied together. And even as he tries to make this assertion that they are working on separate paths, you just saw, over

the weekend, how Israeli actions inside Lebanon, at least temporarily, delayed the talks to try and get the nuclear issue resolved to try and get

all of these other issues separated.

And so as he embarks on this tour of the Middle East, what you're hearing from him here, I think, is a preview of how he will try and reassure some

of these Gulf countries that this MOU is in fact going to make them safer in the long run.

Even though, for example, it doesn't address the question of the ballistic missile program, which Iran used to target these countries over the course

of this war, even though this $300 billion reinvestment fund has been met with a whole amount of skepticism from some of these leaders in the Gulf

who will be expected to contribute to it since the president says that the U.S. will not donate a single dime. And so his task, I think, will be a

difficult one.

How he goes about that, I think, will be interesting to watch over the course of these next few days. He's going to the UAE. He'll also be in

Kuwait. He'll also be in Bahrain.

And so it puts him in sort of a position of assuming responsibility for this MOU even though he didn't really play a part in getting it across the

finish line. And I think that's a dynamic that will certainly be very closely watched back here in Washington.

GOLODRYGA: For sure. Kevin Liptak, thank you.

Let's go to Jeremy Diamond in Jerusalem. So many notable things here. The first is that the secretary of state is not traveling to Israel during this

trip, even though he will be in the region.

And as we just heard there from Kevin, some contradictions, it appears from the statements we hear from the secretary of state and what we heard from

President Trump and what's in this MOU, first and foremost, from Israel's perspective, connecting Lebanon to this ceasefire in with Iran. That is the

first clause here that all fighting must stop.

The secretary of state saying that they've got to enforce the sovereignty of Lebanon, but of course that's leaving out a key component here. And that

is Hezbollah.

How is this all being viewed from Jerusalem right now, Jeremy?

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JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, as we've been reporting extensively in recent weeks, there's an extraordinary amount of discomfort

and concern within the Israeli government and within the Israeli public at large, really, about this memorandum of understanding, not only as it

relates to Iran, but also as it relates to basically trying to tie Israel's hands in the -- the war in Lebanon between Israel and Hezbollah, which is a

war that many Israelis here support and that the Israeli prime minister has really been damaged politically by the fact that President Trump is

effectively forcing him to ceasefire, at least to reduce the fire that Israel is carrying out inside of Lebanon.

Publicly, that's why we've seen the Israeli Prime Minister repeatedly say that Israeli troops still have, you know, the freedom to operate against

any threats that they see inside of Lebanon.

He and Israel's defense minister have also vowed that Israel will not leave that security zone up to 10 kilometers deep inside Southern Lebanon, where

there are currently thousands of Israeli troops.

But behind the scenes, we have gotten word of additional restrictions on the fire of Israeli troops inside of Lebanon in order to try and avoid the

kinds of diplomatic incidents that we've seen over the past several days, the concern from President Trump and sometimes the anger that President

Trump has expressed towards the Israeli Prime Minister about continued Israeli bombardment of Lebanon that has threatened this broader ceasefire

agreement between the United States and Iran.

We'll be watching closely to see what comes out of these negotiations in Washington, where the Israeli and the Lebanese government are sitting down

for what I believe is now a fifth round of talks between those two countries, aimed at trying to find a path forward for how exactly Hezbollah

can be disarmed, how Israeli troops can ultimately be compelled to withdraw from Lebanon, which is a central aim of this Lebanese government.

And now, of course, those talks have the broader impact of impacting this ceasefire agreement between the United States and Iran because of the --

how central Iran has made what happens in Lebanon to the broader agreement, how willing Iran has been to threaten to blow up this agreement effectively

if Israel is not reigned in inside of Lebanon.

And from Israel's perspective, we have heard them repeatedly say that they are responding to Hezbollah fire. We have seen instances, of course, of

Hezbollah rocket and drone fire directed in particular at Israeli troops that are in Southern Lebanon.

Today, we saw several instances of Israeli fire directed at what the Israeli military said was armed Hezbollah operatives operating in proximity

to Israeli troops. Hezbollah calling that a violation of this ceasefire.

So, while we certainly have seen a reduction in the attacks on both sides over the last 48 hours, it hasn't stopped altogether. The question is,

which one of those incidents could potentially undermine the broader ceasefire agreement that we are -- are seeing and whether any breakthroughs

can take place at that negotiating table in Washington to allow for any kind of withdrawal of Israeli troops, any kind of handing over of more

Lebanese territory back to the Lebanese military and any efforts to kind of try and advance that disarmament of Hezbollah that Israel sees as critical.

GOLODRYGA: Just a reminder of what Secretary of State Rubio just said, you can't end hostilities in the region if Iranian proxies are launching

missiles.

Also notable that the United States has agreed to an MOU that sees Iran demanding an end to all fighting and that it links, not only the United

States and Israel's war in Iran, but also Israel and its war with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Jeremy Diamond, thank you.

ASHER: Thanks, Jeremy.

All right. Let's bring in Aaron David Miller. He's a former Middle East negotiator for the U.S. State Department. He's also a senior fellow at the

Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He joins us live now.

So, Aaron, just walk us through what the path forward looks like just in terms of all of these sides maintaining some semblance of peace and a

ceasefire actually holding, especially when you think about the fact that, as Jeremy Diamond was just pointing out there, Lebanon remains a tripwire

that could plunge all three sides into war just like that.

You also have the fact that Iran is saying that it does deserve to have full control over the Strait of Hormuz.

You've got the fact that Iran is saying that actually nuclear weapons inspectors won't be allowed to assess damage sites.

And on top of that, that they should spend their unfrozen assets, how they see fit, regardless of what the U.S. dictates.

What is the past -- path forward here, Aaron?

AARON DAVID MILLER, FORMER U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT MIDDLE EAST NEGOTIATOR: Look, successful negotiations, in my view, I -- I haven't negotiated with

Iranians, but I've had decades of experience in Middle East negotiations, really rests on three main factors.

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You have two parties seriously committed to an outcome that will reflect the balance of interest that is to say one side -- not one side wins and

one side loses, both sides walk away from the table believing legitimately that they won.

Number two, you need a shared sense of urgency which is driven by pain in the prospects again. And number three, you need an outcome, an agreement

that in fact is realistic, not tethered to a galaxy far, far away, but to the realities back here on planet Earth.

I think the -- the only, I think, uplifting notion about the MOUs, if both parties have agreed to it. And the judgment that both are making, at least

what we're -- that sign last Wednesday, so we're not even a weekend.

The judgment that both Iran and the U.S. have made is that the costs of staying in this agreement are -- are not outweighed by the risks of having

no agreement at all.

And I think if in fact Washington-Tehran, believe that they have gotten about as much as they can from one another through economic leverage,

meaning the blockade, kinetic activity, meaning 13,000 strikes by the U.S. military, combined with Israeli strikes against Iran and Iranian strikes

against the Gulf states, then what you have bought, frankly, is a process, which has always been given a bad name, but a process is only a way to

describe a problem that you cannot resolve today.

And I think that's what you -- that's what you have. Whether or not this process is going to lead to anything that normal humans would regard as a

durable agreement, stop -- we have to stop using the term deal

We're not talking about a deal, it's not a real estate deal. It's an incredibly complicated process of negotiation that will require weeks, if

not months, the involvement of the International Agency for Atomic Energy, verification, monitoring, and incredibly technical discussions, which

cannot be done in 60 days.

Is there enough traction on lifting the blockade, easing traffic through the states? The last three days you've seen more ships trans -- transfer

through those Straits than any time since the war began.

And the freezing of, at least the un-sanctioning of some Iranian oil and the freezing of additional assets, are these at -- and a quote-unquote,

ceasefire in Lebanon, are these enough to keep the process on the rails for now?

GOLODRYGA: Aaron, given that the United States has agreed to allow Iran to dictate at least some of the terms in this MOU, including the first clause,

and that is a cessation of all fighting in the region, including in Lebanon, how does, Washington prevent Tehran from constantly using that

Hezbollah front as a permanent veto over the broader nuclear discussions?

MILLER: I mean, Bianna, that's part of the problem. And the reality, in convenient reality, when a flawed military campaign, which has failed to

accomplish most of its wartime objectives, ended up evolving into a flawed memorandum of understanding.

I think the Iranians, frankly, and it's really quite stunning. I've been around negotiations for a long time. The Iranians, figuratively speaking,

had better lawyers than we did.

Why we agreed to some of the clauses and the wording in this MOU to me is extraordinary. Part of it's because it was done through intermediaries,

part of it because it was done, seemingly done, looks like on the back of a couple cocktail napkins, and seemingly because some of it was done on cell

phones.

You didn't have at the table, on the American side, the kinds of expertise and lawyers, smart lawyers who understand negotiations, who understood that

if you put Lebanon as Article One, like the Article One of our Constitution, which is Congress -- Congress's role in balance of powers,

you're making a major statement. Then you mentioned Lebanon three times before you had moved on to Article Two.

We -- we are literally, I think, falling prey to our own incompetence and lack of serious thinking. And now we are locked into an MOU, which since

last Wednesday has had four impacts in the real world, one, the blockade had seized, two Iranian oils unsanctioned, three are military strikes

against Iran, and then -- and four, the Straits are theoretically open, but as the three of us know, they really aren't.

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The Iranians have leverage fingerprints all over them. They're talking now with the Omanis about navigation fees.

So on balance, things have got to get better. And the lawyers on our side, and the negotiators on our side, need to get better because right now,

semester is not over. But I'm telling you, I -- I'm thinking here, D plus, if we're lucky.

ASHER: Yes. I mean, you laid it out so perfectly. One of the biggest concerns is that Iran is now stronger than it was before February 28. And

that's part of the issue that Marco Rubio has now, because he now has to convince Gulf allies that -- that is not the case.

And also, he's convincing them to invest in that $300 billion fund to a country that attacked them over the course of the past four months.

Aaron David Miller, live for us there. Thank you so much.

All right. Wall Street has been getting trampled on by an A.I. sell-off after a rough Monday. It's been a volatile day for tech stocks.

Let's take a look right now in NVIDIA, Alphabet, Oracle, all -- all down. Quite significantly, Oracle down four percent. Alphabet, down one percent.

NVIDIA, down three percent.

Let's bring CNN's Vanessa Yurkevich, joins us live now.

I mean, obviously, the sell-off has also impacted SpaceX as well. Last I checked, they were at roundabout just under $150. Just walk us through what

is fueling the sell-off. I mean, there has been some concern. Oh, there it is, 162. It's slightly up.

GOLODRYGA: Yes.

ASHER: But just there's been some concern that a lot of the A.I. excitement has been somewhat overblown.

VANESSA YURKEVICH, CNN BUSINESS AND POLITICS CORRESPONDENT: Yes. And this really started over in Asia, actually. In South Korea, the cost be their

market there, falling by 10 percent on Tuesday, triggering a halt in trading of 20 minutes just to let things cool down a little bit.

And it was really driven by a sell-off of two A.I. chip makers, one including Samsung. Stocks there fell by 12 percent. And those two A.I. chip

makers make up half of the overall South Korean market. So, that really dragged down markets there. And actually translated right onto Japan's

Nikkei, which fell by 3.6 percent.

Now, we are starting to see that tech nervousness come over here to the U.S. markets. This is really driven by A.I. fears. Are these companies

overvalued uncertainty around artificial intelligence?

And what we're seeing is the NASDAQ right now down about 1.5 percent, 400 points there. The S&P down one percent.

The Dow has been trading a little bit flat all day long. But the NASDAQ is really the tech-heavy index that we've been looking at.

You mentioned SpaceX in particular. We know that the -- the -- initially SpaceX literally took off. But since then, there's been some jitters around

the stock, around the IPO, but that's pretty -- pretty typical for -- for a new IPO, especially one like SpaceX that does touch very much into the tech

and A.I. space. But then you also mentioned Oracle, NVIDIA, down four percent, I believe was the last check.

And Alphabet, you're talking about Google. In recent days, Alphabet has had a couple executives actually leave the company that work in A.I. and move

over to Anthropic.

So, what does that mean for the company? What does that mean for the future of the company? Another thing we've been hearing from investors is that

maybe some of these invests -- excuse me, we've been hearing from investors that some investors are actually concerned about what the Fed could do in

the future, raising interest rates.

So, what does that mean for these A.I. businesses? What does that mean for consumers and how they're willing to spend?

In this day and age, ladies, it really doesn't take a lot for investors to get nervous or to sell off, particularly in the artificial intelligence

space. There's just still so much unknown.

And the valuations, though still of these companies are quite grand. And U.S. markets are really not far off of their record highs.

So this is a -- a day, one day in 365 days of trading on Wall Street. But it really paints the picture of this tech nervousness, is in this A.I.

nervousness continuing to play out through a lot of these companies.

And, of course, throughout the world. We saw it start in Asia, as I mentioned, but in this nervousness trickling now into the U.S. markets.

But, of course, tomorrow is another day. We know a lot of people like to buy on the lows of some of these high-valued stocks, so we could see a

pickup tomorrow. A new day brings a new set of answers for the U.S. markets.

ASHER: All right. Vanessa Yurkevich, thank you for that. Appreciate it.

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All right. Still to come, another football giant is back on the pitch today. We'll have more on what to expect from the Portugal versus

Uzbekistan later today.

And actually --

GOLODRYGA: What's his name again?

ASHER: England -- England versus Ghana, too. Let's be honest.

GOLODRYGA: Yes, that's right. Harry Kane, that's remember, it worked.

Plus, a closer look at --

ASHER: (INAUDIBLE), Bianna.

GOLODRYGA: -- wearables We're talking to the CEO of the company behind the Oura Ring. I finally

jumped on the bandwagon, got myself a ring. This has gained major recognition in the wellness industry.

ASHER: Plus, Olivia Rodrigo is bringing a new sound to the festival scene with a major nod to women and music history.

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GOLODRYGA: Lionel Messi has become the World Cup's all-time top scorer during Argentina's two-nil victory over Austria.

The forward got his 17th and 18th goals of the tournament, taking the men's top spot from German striker, Miroslav Klose.

ASHER: And plenty more thrills coming today as England play Ghana. Portugal star, Cristiano Ronaldo, will also be back on the pitch as Portugal faces

off against Uzbekistan.

For more on what the World Cup has in store for us today, obviously, Don, you know that I'm excited about the England versus Ghana game.

I mean, I would be rooting for Nigeria. They didn't qualify. They did their best, but ultimately, God said no. So, I'm now a Ghana fan all the way.

GOLODRYGA: Oh.

ASHER: I actually -- and you should be too, because you're my current card.

GOLODRYGA: OK. I thought you were going to go with the U.K.

ASHER: No.

GOLODRYGA: That's why you call me a traitor (INAUDIBLE). Got it. OK.

ASHER: So just in terms of what we can expect on. I actually think that being the underdog comes with some advantage. I mean, just -- just walk us

through. There's not so much pressure that the Ghanaians have to face in terms of who got to win this.

DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: Well, I mean, I think they would put a lot of pressure on themselves. It's, what, 16 years now since Ghana last made the

knock-out stage of the World Cup. So, that's a long time.

They won their first game against Panama, just as England won their first game against Croatia. So, this is a big game for Ghana today for the Black

Stars. But you are right that the England team are the favorites.

I think Ghana will be hoping to exploit some potential defensive frailties in the England team. They did win quite a really exciting game against

Croatia in their opening match, four-two.

And going forward, England looked fantastic, especially early in the second half of that game. But at the back, they might be a little bit more

vulnerable. So, Ghana will be hoping to exploit that.

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All eyes, though, of course, on Harry Kane once again. This is a World Cup tournament where the big stars have all come to play. We've seen Messi's

score five goals already, Mbappe's got four. Haaland's got four. Harlan's got four. Kane scored two in the first game against Croatia, meaning he's

now tied with Gary Lineker as England's record World Cup scorer. So, he will be hoping to surpass Lineker and join that conversation for the Golden

Boot as well.

So, a lot of stake today and hopefully it's going to be another good game.

GOLODRYGA: OK. I have now switched my allegiance. I am team Ghana all the way because I always support --

ASHER: She's learned. She's worked for the late in the game, but she's learned.

GOLODRYGA: -- my co-anchor.

Let's talk about another up-and-coming athlete, very modest by the name of Ronaldo. He is playing alongside his teammates from Portugal, taking on

Uzbekistan. A lot of pressure on him. Has he had any goals, thus far, in this World Cup?

RIDDELL: No. And it's an absolutely fascinating conversation because, of course, he and Messi have been the great rivals throughout their entire

careers. They are both playing in a record sixth World Cup tournament, but their fortunes so far could hardly be more contrasting.

Portugal failed to win their first game against the Democratic Republic of Congo. It was a one-all draw. And Ronaldo was seen as, to be honest, a bit

of a misfit. And this is a team with an extraordinary midfield, but they seem to have to defer to Ronaldo because he is one of the greatest players

of all time, but he is now arguably holding them -- them back.

It was telling, not only that he started that game, but the coach left him on throughout the entirety of that game, almost as if the coach just didn't

have the courage to bring off the greatest player that Portugal has ever produced.

So, we all wondered what would happen this time for the game against Uzbekistan. Well, Ronaldo is starting again. And ever since that first

game, the conversation has been all about Ronaldo.

And, you know, there are people within the Portugal camp, there are girlfriends of the players, there are quotes that apparently are

fictitious, that people are reacting to.

And so the whole kind of Portugal football ecosystem is kind of tearing itself apart over the problem that is Cristiano Ronaldo. And that seems a

strange thing to say, given what he has achieved in the game, but he is now in a position in the twilight of his career, where he kind of seems to be

getting in the way.

And if you look at his performance over his last 10 games in major competitions, in those 10 games, he hasn't scored in any of those games. So

he's kind of getting in the way.

ASHER: I really hope that prior to this game that Ronaldo does not look at any social media. I mean, I'm sure these guys are trained not to do that,

but --

RIDDELL: He cannot know what Messi --

ASHER: I know. I know.

RIDDELL: -- Mbappe, Kane, Haaland are all doing.

ASHER: I know.

RIDDELL: He cannot know.

GOLODRYGA: But he's very -- he's very disciplined. And for those --

ASHER: Don't read it, Ronaldo.

GOLODRYGA: Yes.

ASHER: Don't read it.

GOLODRYGA: For those of our viewers that don't realize, I was being sarcastic. I, of course, know that Ronaldo is not just an up-and-coming

rising star, he is a superstar. I've been following for many years.

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ASHER: You know, he was talking about. I think his name is Ronaldo.

GOLODRYGA: Keep an eye on him.

ASHER: Yes.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Don Riddell, this is become one of our favorite segments. Thank you.

ASHER: Don does not look impressed with us today.

GOLODRYGA: Team Ghana. We'll be right back.

RIDDELL: Obviously, I'm supporting (INAUDIBLE).

GOLODRYGA: Yes.

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GOLODRYGA: All right. Earlier this month, Turning Point USA held its first women's leadership summit since its founder, Charlie Kirk, was assassinated

last September. His wife, Erika Kirk, has taken over and headlined the conference.

ASHER: Yes. CNN's Elle Reeve travel to San Antonio to ask people at the event about the growing emphasis on traditional gender roles among young

people in the MAGA movement.

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ERIKA KIRK, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, TURNING POINT USA: Have more babies than you can afford.

(CHEERING)

ELLE REEVE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm at the Turning Point Women's Leadership Summit, where a lot of the speakers have talked about how feminism has hurt

women, how you should get married early and have more kids maybe more than you can afford.

STONE: Feminism is the biggest lie we have ever been sold as women.

REEVE: But the attendees have had a little more nuance in their analysis. Some have even said, you can have it all.

PHOEBE VIDACAK, FOUNDER, PLANA: From what I see, like, society has co-opted the word feminism, which should just be the equality of the sexes, which I

really do believe in to be something of pushing the other sex down, which I really don't believe in.

NICHOLE JACK JOHNSON, ATTENDEE: I've run three companies and have a non- profit and adopted children.

So I feel like the messages to me where that women can do it all.

REEVE: And how do you see that as different from feminism?

JOHNSON: Good question. That is a great question. I feel like feminism is the pursuit of I-need-nobody. And I don't need a man, I don't need others.

ALEX, ATTENDEE: Because I feel like the left is so focused on feminism equals abortion and that's like not at all what feminism should be for. It

should just be like, how can we empower women to fulfill what they feel like their calling is?

CATRINE DICOSMO, ATTENDEE: A lot of the left say that they don't need men, but we do.

REEVE: Speaker Savanna Stone is a married 21-year-old who's built an audience advocating for traditional gender roles in a sometimes provocative

way.

STONE: Submission gets a bad rep because it's seen as slavery for whatever reason, but submission is a trust in its teamwork. It means the woman

serves the husband and the husband lays down his life for the wife.

Because women are controlled by their emotions and men are controlled by logic.

REEVE: She goes viral a lot on TikTok for talking about women submitting to their husbands means submissive. What do you think of that?

ABBIE NOTGRASS, ATTENDEE: I mean, that's what the Bible calls us to do, so that's what I think is true.

MORGAN NOTGRASS, ATTENDEE: The words sound kind of crazy and a little controversial, but I mean, I believe what the Bible says. And I think it's

true. And I think she said it great in there.

REEVE: This comes at a time when small but growing sections of the online and religious right have objections to women voting at all. With some

calling to repeal the 19th Amendment and replace it with a so-called household vote.

TOBY SUMPTER, PASTOR: In my ideal society, we would vote as households. And I would ordinarily be the one that would cast the vote, but I would cast

the vote having discussed it with my household.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Repeal the 19th people.

REEVE: Yes, repeal the 19th people. What do you make of that?

JASMINE STEWART, ATTENDEE: There's a lot of politics that divides families and that's not what they want. So, you know, I understand that part of it.

And then another part of it that I think is a lot more juvenile is that they're like, oh, well, there's so many liberal women and they're ruining,

whatever. I don't think that's a correct way to look at it all. So, that's not really a view that I share there.

IRELAND DANIEL, ATTENDEE: Obviously, if we didn't think women should be able to vote, we wouldn't be standing here trying to work in politics.

REEVE: Why do you think it's good interaction right now?

DANIEL: Honestly, I would say from a liberal perspective of we don't mean men has made men so angry. It's harder for men to get a girlfriend. It's

harder for them to get married. Women don't want to get married now.

And I think that's why a conservative movement has pushed so much back on the word feminism is because they feel like women are, quote unquote,

ruining everything, which we're not. That's not true.

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REEVE: So, a feminist might say, hey, you guys are dealing with these really angry young men online, like, incels, the Andrew Tates, the

whatever.

You guys need feminists right now to defend you and to defend your dignity as a person. What would you say to that?

DANIEL: I would say it's all about how we approach it though. I think by screaming back at them isn't going to help.

REEVE (voice-over): A few dozen protesters chanted outside the conference.

Turning Point's founder Charlie Kirk excelled at provoking people to get attention. But now his group is dealing with social media controversy from

within conservatism. One that is cruel but pervasive.

After Kirk was assassinated, his widow Erika took over the organization. Soon, conspiracy theories swirled online that she or Turning Point staff

were somehow involved in his death. There is no evidence in this. Turning Point has vehemently denied the claims.

Police have arrested a suspect and say he acted alone. The most viral insinuations have come from Candace Owens.

CANDACE OWENS, AMERIKAN COMMENTATOR: For Erika Kirk should be dragged into a police precinct for questioning, like I said.

REEVE (voice-over): The conspiracy theories are so rife that speaker Dana Loesch even addressed them from the stage.

DANA LOESCH, AMERIKAN RADIO HOST: God has ordered his church to care for widows. That widows be included so they are not isolated. To protect

widows. To care for widows. To not persecute a widow in the most ungodly a ways. Because you're jealous that you are not the one controlling an

organization that that widow's husband built.

REEVE (voice-over): Many attendees were keenly aware of the online discourse.

STEWART: I don't think it's wrong to ask questions. I'm always a skeptic myself. For me, the more questions are better.

REEVE: In fairness, like, one of the questions Candace is asking is like, did Erika kill him for Israel? I mean, it's kind of out there, right?

STEWART: Oh, yes, absolutely. Like I said, for me, the more questions are better to question everything.

I can understand what people, especially like Erika, would be like what the absolute hell.

JOHNSON: I wanted to come and support Erika, of course. I felt like the spirit of God was telling me to support our widows.

I had many phone calls, many people reached out to me, many people very disappointed that I was coming.

REEVE: Really?

JOHNSON: Christian Republicans, disappointed that I was here.

REEVE: What did your friend say to you who didn't approve of you going?

JOHNSON: A lot of them truly believe in everything that's being said. It's heartbreaking to me. I -- I don't even want to speak on it because it's so

awful what's -- what's being believed. And I feel like that's spiritual warfare. I feel like we're seeing real life spiritual warfare coming after

this organization.

Elle Reeve, CNN, San Antonio.

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GOLODRYGA: Smart, portable devices or wearables like smart watches and rings are reshaping how we live, work, and stay healthy.

In a recent U.S. survey of just over 3,000 members of an online patient advisory group, nearly 60 percent said they owned a wearable.

ASHER: Now, Oura Health is a Finnish company known for its innovative Oura Ring. It confidentially files for an IPO in May, expected to take place

later this year.

"Business Wire" reports, it's unpaid past five million paid subscribers this quarter.

GOLODRYGA: Joining us now is the Chief Executive Officer of Oura, Tom Hale. He joined the company in April of 2022 after experiencing a personal

transformation using the product himself.

Tom, welcome to the program. I have to admit, I am a wearables geek now, thanks to being married to one. I have a smart watch. Obviously, we have

smartphones.

And I finally gave in, and three weeks ago bought the Oura Ring 5. And just from a superficiality standpoint, I did it because it finally to me looked

like a piece of jewelry. And I said fine, I'll give it a shot. I've been wearing it for three weeks. I was telling Zain I can track all of my

sleeping metrics. It's been -- it's been great to actually have and very useful as well.

It's 40 percent smaller than the Ring 4. And I guess people like myself and my husband aside, are you hoping that people wear this ring to get a sense

of their own body habits and health habits? Or do you think that this is something that is an overall fitness app?

TOM HALE, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, OURA RING: Well, first of all, welcome to the family. We're very glad to have you.

To answer your question, you know, it's absolutely about health. You know, we think about health in all of its dimensions, you know, it's sleep, it's

nutrition, it's rest, it's women's health and where you are in your cycle. It's -- it's stress. It's -- it's all the components coming together to

helping you make healthy choices and healthy habits.

You know, I think one of the things that's most compelling about -- about Oura is that it really gives your body a voice. And -- and it's most

effective when it's telling you things that you wouldn't otherwise know.

ASHER: But, Tom, how much is too much? I haven't got an Oura Ring just yet. And one of the reasons why I'm late to the party is simply because I -- for

those of us who already have type A personalities. Having one more thing to track, one more thing to worry about, Bianna is actually showing me the app

and all the different metrics it tracked. And I just -- I felt somewhat overwhelmed by it.

So just walk us through why we need to track things that for example our bodies inherently know for example sleep. I know when I've slept well. I

feel a certain way when I've slept. Well, why is it important to have an app? Tell me that.

HALE: It's such a good point, because I think actually our -- our philosophy of the product is actually not to overwhelm you with data. In

fact, we call ourselves calm tech (ph). We try and disappear invisibly into your life that's actually part and parcel of the form factor.

I mean, this is -- this is the ring. And the size of it is there to -- to really make it fit into your life like a piece of jewelry that you don't

even have to think about.

What we want to do is we want to tell you things that you might not otherwise know. So for example one of the kind of compelling experiences of

Oura is that you might receive an alert that says, you know, it looks like you might be getting sick and you're like no but I feel fine I feel great.

And then three days later, you're lying on the couch watching Netflix surrounded by Kleenex.

And -- and kind of giving you information that you might not know is actually -- that's the real power of it this sort of predictive thing.

The other side of it, of course, is that we want to help people build healthy habits. Healthy habits are the kinds of things that will bend the

curve on their health outcomes in the long term. You know, we'll make them, not just feel better, but actually live longer and healthier lives.

In order to do that, we want to give you the information that -- that reinforces those healthy habits. We don't want to overwhelm. We want to be

calm like a check engine light in the background that only comes on when you need it.

GOLODRYGA: And listen, the company has doubled its revenue to $1 billion last year, what we mentioned the upcoming IPO now.

And it is incredible that down to just 2.8 millimeters thick, the accuracy rate on this device is very, very efficient.

But there is the question about that that applies to all of these devices and that is security, data security. How do you guarantee and convince

skeptics that, you know, while this is great information to have, they don't want the whole world, at one point, to have access to it?

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HALE: I -- I think it's such a great point. I mean, privacy for Oura is a non-negotiable. We think of ourselves more as a health company than a

technology company.

So for example, we're sort of bound by the rules of the strictures around data, whether that's GDPR or HIPAA, which I think many people are familiar

with.

Maybe more importantly, our business model is oriented around serving you. You are the customer. We're not trying to get your information so that

other people can target you with many tech platforms.

We're there to exist for your health. And so for us, privacy is foundational. We deal with some of the most sensitive health data,

including women's health data. And so as a result, we're there to protect and to optimize so that no one else will get access to it.

We've made a public commitment that will neither share nor sell your data. And you have to grant us consent even for us to share your data to an app.

So, privacy is -- is non-negotiable for us. And I think in many ways, that's -- that's a part of a bigger vision, which is that we think

wearables, and maybe even, you know, everyone's already got a smartphone. If they have a smart wearable, they can have a kind of a cloud intelligence

that's overlooking them and helping to manage their health. That vision is transformative for the way we practice health in the world.

GOLODRYGA: Well, Tom, we'll see if we can convince Zain to --

ASHER: I'm the hold out here.

GOLODRYGA: Sorry, easy one. I can usually tell, though, when she's had a good night's sleep. So, between the both of us, we balance each other out

quite well.

ASHER: I used to have my kids jumping on my bed at 4:00 in the morning, so.

GOLODRYGA: That's her -- and that's her sleep metric.

Tom, great to have you on. Thanks so much.

HALE: Zain, we're here (INAUDIBLE).

GOLODRYGA: We really appreciate it.

HALE: Busy moms are our number one -- yes, thanks for having us. I'll see you. Cheers.

ASHER: Thank you, Tom.

GOLODRYGA: Bye, Tom.

ASHER: We'll be back with more "One World" after this short break.

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ASHER: All right. A new music festival is launching with a mission to celebrate and support women and girls and it's being led by Grammy winning

artist, Olivia Rodrigo.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. In an interview with Diane Sawyer at ABC, Rodrigo said her inspiration to launch the Daisy Chain Fields event in August comes from

Lilith Fair, the iconic festival founded by Sarah McLachlan in the 1990s.

Here's more from Rodrigo.

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OLIVIA RODRIGO, SINGER-SONGWRITER AND ACTRESS: When I pictured this festival, I had an image in my head of girls sitting underneath a tree like

making --

DIANE SAWYER, AMERICAN BROADCASTER: Making their little bracelets.

RODRIGO: Like a little Daisy chain. Yes, like flower crowns or friendship bracelets. And so I came up with the name Daisy Chain Fields.

And I also just like the idea of a Daisy chain that we can all be individual links in this chain that is like larger than the individual.

SAWYER: And surprisingly strong.

RODRIGO: Surprisingly strong. Yes. And beautiful.

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ASHER: The festival includes an all-star cast of female musicians including Sarah McLachlan and Stevie Nicks.

GOLODRYGA: Organizers say proceeds from Rodrigo's event will go toward non- profit groups focused on supporting women and girls.

All right. That does it for "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.

ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Thank you for watching. "Amanpour" is up next.

GOLODRYGA: Go Ghana and U.K. England --

ASHER: Go Ghana. Go Ghana.

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