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CNN Projects El-Sayed Will Win Michigan Dem Senate Primary; Sources: U.S. Munitions Stockpiles "Dangerously Low"; Netanyahu Rejects Gaza Pullout Without Hamas Disarmament; Hot, Dry Weather Raises Washington Wildfire Risk; Infantino Losing Support In Presidency Reelection Bid; A.I. Agents Used Fake Identities To Target Real People; Student-Led Effort Tackles Food Insecurity; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. The votes are in for Michigan's high- stakes Democratic Senate primary.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
ASHER: Progressive, Abdul El-Sayed, notches a narrow primary win over his more moderate opponent. What the victory could mean for the Democratic
Party as they look ahead to November?
GOLODRYGA: Washington ramps up pressure on Iran to reach a deal and reopen the Strait of Hormuz with U.S. President Trump promising results soon even
as Tehran takes a more cautious tone.
ASHER: Infantino faces the fallout. The FIFA president told me a crisis meeting with senior leaders amid backlash over his World Cup sales plan.
All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You're watching the second hour of "One World."
Abdul El-Sayed is echoing the late boxing legend, Muhammad Ali, saying quote, we shook up the world. He spoke shortly after he was projected to
win the U.S. Senate Democratic primary in Michigan.
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ABDUL EL-SAYED, PROJECTED U.S. SENATE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE: What we showed is that if you're willing to build a movement, brick by brick, if you're
willing to go and travel your state and have the conversations in rooms big and small, starting in moments when people aren't even paying attention to
an election, but are paying attention to the price of gas and the price of groceries and the price of housing and the price of healthcare, that you
can build a conversation that builds into a movement that defeats Goliath.
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ASHER: All right. The progressive, former public health official prevailed of a moderate Congresswoman Haley Stevens, in a race that could help shape
the makeup of Congress.
GOLODRYGA: Stevens congratulated El-Sayed after he came out ahead following a bitter battle. El-Sayed will now advance to take on Republican Mike
Rogers in the general election in November.
ASHER: Voters also went to the polls in Missouri, Kansas, Virginia and Washington State, but of course, the battleground state of Michigan took
center stage.
GOLODRYGA: Let's take a closer look at the returns with our chief data analyst, Harry Enten. And, Harry, I don't want to do a repeat of 2016, but
the polls were not really accurate this time around. We were projecting a much bigger victory for El-Sayed. What happened?
HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: You know, I will say you and I sometimes pass each other in the hallway, and I do believe that we pass
each other just in the past few days. And I said, oh Abdul El-Sayed, he is going to crush it. He is going to win easily. And yes, he won, but you
know, he only won by a single percentage point. We're just talking about 15,000 votes.
What happened in Michigan is you had a very sharply divided democratic electorate. What are we talking about?
We're going to use the actual magic wand. I want to bring you magic. I might be like Harry Houdini here.
And you can see it here. Haley Stevens in your darker blue, the Columbia blue belonging to the winner of Abdul El-Sayed.
And you can see that, you know, Haley Stevens did pretty gosh darn well in places that have a lot of voters, right? Wayne County, that's home to
Detroit. She won it. She won it by about 17,000 votes.
You go up here, another place with a lot of voters. OK. Macomb County, right? What are we talking about? We see here that Haley Stevens again won
it. She won it by seven points.
You zoom out and you say, OK, then where did Abdul El-Sayed do well? How about college towns? Places with a lot of college educated voters. That's
where he did well.
So, if we come on here, this is where Ann Arbor is. This is where the University of Michigan is. Look at how well Abdul El-Sayed did in this
county. He won it by 25 points going away.
And more than that, you can keep going, right? We can click across the map. And we can go to Lansing, right? We can go down here, right? We're talking
about Michigan State University. Again, similar 20-point plus margins for Abdul El-Sayed.
Now, as we sort of zone out, right? We're talking about the general election now. That's just where we're heading to. If I'm Abdul El-Sayed,
the thing that worries me is this. As I look at this map, what you see is, again, in this dark blue for Haley Stevens, you can see she did very well
in this corridor, right? She did very, very well in this corridor.
What is this corridor consist of? It consists of two groups of folks. It consists of working class voters, it consists -- three groups of voters;
working class voters, white working class voters, and African-American voters.
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Those are the voters, my dear friends, that he is going to have to reach out to mend the fences. Obviously, Haley Stevens has said he -- she is
behind Abdul El-Sayed, but it's going to be those menses -- that will have to be -- those fences that have to be mended.
Because at this point, you know what? We look ahead towards the general election, and we started talking about the polls, Bianna. The polls had
Abdul El-Sayed winning the primary by about 10 plus points. Those same polls, those same polls actually had Republican Mike Rogers ahead.
And I have to ask myself as I throw it back to you, two fine ladies, which is if the polls underestimated Abdul El-Sayed by this much or overestimated
him by this much in the primary, how much are those general election polls worth?
Could they be overestimating Abdul El-Sayed again? Because Michigan could be a very key state if Republicans want to block that move to Democrats,
trying to take back the Senate majority.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. It is a state that appears up for grabs now, even though Trump won it in 2024, he lost it in 2020.
And, Harry, something we've lost for a long period of time now is having you on this show. Something was missing, Zain, and I couldn't put our
finger on it until we saw you.
ASHER: It's -- it's the only point during this show. Because obviously we cover obviously very heavy topics. It's the only point during the show that
I can smile consistently when I see Harry Enten. So thank you for that.
ENTEN: I want to just point out before we depart each other, which is I decided for the reunion that I was going to come into a bigger studio. And
so instead of being at my magic wall in the newsroom, I'm here in a much bigger studio.
And Joey, if you could just sort of zone out a little bit, I just want to sort of show, look how big all of this is. I got all of this move that I
can kind of go. Look at this. I have all this space to rummage and run. And therefore I can run and be happy after this wonderful time that we had
together.
GOLODRYGA: Even bigger -- even bigger than that room, Harry, is the fact that my mom chimed in, sending me a text, I showed Zain, it was Harry with
three exclamation marks.
ENTEN: Yes, yes.
ASHER: Her mom watched every day.
ENTEN: Beautiful, beautiful. All I'll say is hi to mom. That is what we're going to do. Because moms make me happy, and I'm happy to make moms happy.
GOLODRYGA: Harry.
ASHER: Thank you, Harry. Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: Thanks, Harry.
ENTEN: Bye.
ASHER: All right. Let's get a closer look at this major movement in American politics with CNN political commentator and democratic strategist
Maria Cardona. Maria, good to have you.
I think that it's fair to say, regardless of your political viewpoint, what Abdul El-Sayed did in this race was quite extraordinary, you know,
especially when you consider just the amount of outside money that came in. We're talking about what, $70 million.
For every vote against him, about $100 on average was spent. I mean, he was -- just in terms of the ads and just the amount of money from private
interests, you know, special interest groups. It is extraordinary.
What does that tell you about the state of American politics right now that -- that he still won despite of that.
MARIA CARDONA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: He -- right. No, no. I -- I totally agree, Zain.
And I actually think that it's because that happened to him, that he was able to turn that around, flip it on his head and weaponized it against
the, "establishment." And it worked really well for him.
The fact that that insane vulgar amount of money was focused on beating him, he could say, look at the amount of money that they are using to beat
me instead of focused on trying to help you all make ends meet. Trying to give you all working people in Michigan healthcare. Trying to make sure
that you all could pay your rent or pay your mortgage. And I think that really, really helped him.
And he was able to use it in his campaign about the number one issue that voters are looking for, which is affordability.
The other thing that worked in his favor is that he came out swinging from the get-go as a fierce fighter for working class voters, for families who
really do feel downtrodden, who are nervous and wake up in the middle of the night because they can't make ends meet, because they don't have health
care, because they might not be able to buy the prescription drugs for themselves, their kids or their elderly parents. And so that narrative, I
think, also really helped to -- to focus his voters.
He also had an incredible organization where he was able to really mobilize those voters that supported him, get his message out into all of the
communities, including rural, including all of the -- the communities that maybe have felt left out before and -- and now are focused on here we have
a fighter, here we have somebody who is really resonating with what I am feeling and what my family is going through. And it worked for him.
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GOLODRYGA: And it worked by some 15,000 votes, Maria. So, despite all of his charisma and talent and all of the momentum behind him, and - and what
the polls were indicating, he wasn't able to convince the majority of voters.
There are four percent of them voted for Mallory, who as we know McMorrow, who withdrew --
CARDONA: Right.
GOLODRYGA: -- a few weeks ago.
CARDONA: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: So, what is the Democratic Party -- what does he need to do between now and November? He is up against a formidable candidate who is
considered more of a Republican moderate, not a MAGA extremist.
And they're already putting out ads against El-Sayed. How does he -- how does he reassure and bring in those voters who sat this one out for him?
CARDONA: That is a great, great question, Bianna. And that's lesson number two for him. Lesson number one was what he did right. Lesson number two is
what he's going to have to do moving forward in order to win in November. And that is bring the party together.
And it's interesting because when the polls were showing that he was going to win by a landslide, he was a little cocky. But now that you saw or he
saw that he won by a smidgen, he was much more unified in his language, which I was very, very glad to hear because he's not going to be able to do
this by himself. He is going to need Haley Stevens.
And to her credit, she has said, and she said it even before the results were out, that she would absolutely support him if he won, that we know
that we have to keep our eyes on the prize. And he said that in his remarks as well and our eyes are on the prize is to make sure that he wins in
November, that he beats Mike Rogers.
Because regardless of what Republicans are going to throw at him, we all have to believe and have to get the message out there as Democrats. And
frankly, as independents and disaffected Republicans too, that Donald Trump has betrayed the American people, including the voters in Michigan with his
tariffs, with, you know, the fact that he never brought back manufacturing jobs, which he promised as well with this horrendous war that no one wanted
and no one needed, but they're paying billions of dollars towards it while ripping away healthcare from hundreds of thousands of voters in Michigan.
That has got to be the bottom line of the message going into November. And it really has to be a unified party, the one that focuses on that message
and is able to get it out to all of the voters who voted last night for El- Sayed, for Haley Stevens, for Mallory McMorrow as well. That's the only way that we're going to be able to beat Mike Rogers. But I really believe -- to
beat him. But I really believe it's doable.
And we also have to understand that there will be a barrage of ads against El-Sayed. They're going to try to smear him as a democratic communist, as a
socialist, as -- as everything horrific under the sun, which is why it's going to take everyone fighting against that narrative and focused on the
issue of affordability and focused on the fact that Abdul El-Sayed is going to be the person fighting for voters, which is what they desperately want.
ASHER: You know, it's -- it's one thing as a politician to just -- to know how to say the right thing. I mean, that is the basic level of entry to be
a politician. You've got to be able to -- I mean, and this man is obviously very charismatic.
And I --
CARDONA: Right.
ASHER: You know, I think a lot of us enjoy listening to him and -- and sort of talking about. I mean, he prays Haley Stevens. And he -- he obviously
has a gift when it comes to how to speak and connect with people.
But beyond that, how does he actually unify democratic voters in Michigan? It's one thing just to know how to say the right thing. You actually have
to be able to actually bring people together before November.
CARDONA: Yes. That's a -- that's a really good question. I think he's got to go into the communities. And he demonstrated that he knows how to do
that. He -- he's got to go into these communities, communities of color, communities that did not vote for him, that voted for Haley Stevens, white
working class voters.
He's got to go into those communities and meet them where they are and talk to them about what he will do for them. Listen to them about the hardships
that they are going through and have his message be, I will be the champion that you are looking for. I will be the person fighting day in and day out
in the Senate against Mike Rogers, who has said that he will be a rubberstamp to anything that Donald Trump wants to do.
And frankly, what Donald Trump has done up until now has ripped Michigan families apart, has given them no way to help them make ends meet and
betrayed them because he has not kept his promises of focusing on the economy and trying to bring down inflation. And in fact, everything he's
done has gone to cause completely the opposite.
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And so he's got to talk to them. He's got to mobilize them. He's got to go door to door. He's got to get his message out in all of the mediums where
these voters are, both traditional media as well as social media, new media platforms, digital, everything. He's got to do it all.
And he's got to build coalitions. He's got to go into the African-American community where he's got to do some work. He's got to go into the white
working class community where he's got to do some work. I think his support from the auto labor unions is going to help him there.
And he's got to talk about what he has actually done up until now. He has been a dedicated public servant. He can talk about his record. And then he
can talk about how he's going to bring other Democrats together to help him in this fight. And I think if he does all of that, he will be successful in
November.
ASHER: All right. Maria Cardona, live for us. Thank you for that. Appreciate it.
CARDONA: Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: Well, an imminent deal or a massive new attack. The U.S. president says either could happen, and it depends on Iran's next move.
ASHER: Now, on Tuesday, Donald Trump vowed the Strait of Hormuz would be reopened very soon, possibly even today. And he claimed that negotiations
with Tehran were making a lot of progress. But Trump also warned if the Strait isn't immediately reopened, that the U.S. will strike Iran hard.
Tehran denies it's even negotiating with Washington. And Iranian state media is casting doubt on Trump's claims, reporting that ongoing talks with
Oman aren't about reopening the Strait.
GOLODRYGA: Meanwhile, Gulf nations, which have been frequent Iranian targets during this war, may still be on edge right now. Sources say senior
U.S. military commanders are warning, the Pentagon interceptor stockpiles have reached dangerously low levels.
CNN's Alayna Treene joins us now live from the White House.
Alayna, the Pentagon, the Defense Secretary downplaying and adamantly disagreeing with this reporting, but it isn't the first time questions have
been raised and asked and concerns about U.S. stockpiles right now.
How much of a factor is this playing in Trump's decision about whether or not to restart kinetic attacks?
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I think there's no question it's, of course, playing a major role. And this has been an issue, as you
point out, Bianna, for several weeks now, the pace of the ammunitions and the munitions that -- and these interceptors as well, I should point out,
from this great reporting from our colleagues, all of the pace at which it's been used has been so heavy that it's been a major concern throughout
the Pentagon.
And that's partly as well what is contributing to what sources are telling me and our colleagues, which is that many people throughout the
intelligence community here in Washington, but also, of course, throughout the military community, are very concerned about what future attacks could
lead to.
We're hearing that some have been arguing to the president, but mainly to his advisors as well, saying that, you know, even if they do move forward
with another major attack, use up more of these new munitions, it's not clear if Iran would respond in the way that the president wants them to,
which is force them back to the negotiating table in a meaningful way to actually lead to a diplomatic solution.
There's also concerns that even if they do make a deal, including on reopening the strait, that Iran will even honor those commitments. That's
actually something we know that the CIA director, John Ratcliffe, relay the man who's been tasked with most of the intelligence that is handed to
President Donald Trump himself.
He's someone who, from even before that, memorandum of understanding that initial agreement that was signed, he has raised those concerns. And so all
of this, I think, playing a major role in the discussions that are happening behind the scenes.
As for the president, though, I should note, I had several conversations with my sources here at the White House in recent days, and they say, look,
he really does want to see if a diplomatic solution can be reached, and that is what he's doing right now.
Partly, that was the course because you have many Middle Eastern allies, countries like Saudi Arabia, like the United Arab Emirates, calling up the
President over the weekend and telling him to hold off on a major strike. One, I should note, that the president had signed off on Friday before
calling off on Saturday. But now we have to see what happens with the Strait of Hormuz and the negotiations over this.
We do -- we do have reporting from a senior Gulf officials who said that they believe there's a 50-50 chance that a deal to reopen the Strait could
be completed by Friday. The president argues it needs to be better than that, if not, he's going to launch a major attack on Iran.
So, all of this, I think, playing into the fragility of these conversations right now and what the president is deciding. But I think the Strait is
clearly the key priority here. And then once that is reopened, if there is a deal to reopen it, then they really want to focus on the nuclear side of
this.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Iran, as an example, will never have a nuclear weapon. They already can't, but it's going to be
formal. The Strait's going to be open very soon, or they're going to get hit very hard, and then the Strait's going to be open.
We were going to a tremendous attack, the biggest since World War II, and they called me and said very politely, please can we talk, can we talk,
they didn't want. And I said, yes, we can talk. Let's get it done.
If they back out again, they're going to get hit really hard. You know, they know that. They understand that.
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TREENE: So, as you heard from the president there, that was his interview with Fox News, that aired last night, really just laying out his thinking
here that he wants to have some sort of deal and ultimately a deal on the strait would lead to a deal on nuclear.
But again, this is the same exact thing we have now been hearing, Bianna and Zain, for several months, really throughout this entire war. A lot of
starts and stops and different accounts depending on who you talk to.
You know, if you look at the U.S. side, they have a very different message of where things are in the state of play than the Iranians do.
So, we'll have to see where this goes from here, but I do think if this Strait of Hormuz deal, even if it's temporary, even if Iran, you know,
argues that they are still in control of the Strait, that will ease, I think, some of the pressure that the president and his team are facing to
renew attacks in a big way.
Zain, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: All sounds like deja vu. We've been here before so many times over the past six months.
Where we haven't been is welcoming a newly married Alayna Treene to report from the White House. Congratulations --
TREENE: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: -- on the wedding. It looked beautiful, Alayna. Thank you.
TREENE: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, five days after the U.S. --
ASHER: The hard turn. Gosh.
GOLODRYGA: Five days after the U.S. president trumpeted what he called a historic breakthrough in Gaza, the Israeli prime minister is now breaking
his silence.
ASHER: Yes. On Thursday, Donald Trump said a deal has been done. That would mean the complete disarmament of Hamas and include a phase of withdrawal of
Israeli troops. But Benjamin Netanyahu says, Israel has not agreed to anything.
In a video posted to social media, the prime minister said, the IDF would not retreat from its current positions until Hamas lays down all of its
weapons. Hamas, meantime, says it will only comply with a deal if Israel holds its fire.
GOLODRYGA: It follows three days of intensified Israeli airstrikes on Gaza that have killed at least 28 people.
ASHER: CNN's Jeremy Diamond joins us live now from Tel Aviv.
I mean, Jeremy, we all sort of knew that there would be massive sort of stumbling blocks when it came to this deal.
And when you think about it, Netanyahu is in a precarious position. You've got the elections happening in roughly about two months. And by many
accounts, Netanyahu is -- is in trouble, right? Because in part of his failure to deliver any kind of clear, decisive military victory.
And so you have a situation whereby the upcoming elections are sort of informing how Netanyahu handles Hamas, but how he handles Hamas is also
going to influence the results of the upcoming elections as well. Take it away, Jeremy.
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Yes, absolutely. And the political lens is the right one through which to look at the Israeli prime
minister's comments here. You know, he was radio silent for several days in the wake of President Trump announcing what he termed was a historic
agreement that would lead to the disarmament of Hamas.
During that period of silence from the Israeli prime minister, we saw a lot of criticism coming from various corners of the Israeli political spectrum,
including from his chief rival, Gadi Eisenkot, who's running from a more centrist position, but was quite critical of this Hamas disarmament deal.
And so when the Israeli prime minister finally broke his silence, he did so in a way that kind of tried to show a position of strength vis-a-vis this
disarmament deal. The prime minister saying that Israeli troops will not withdraw from their current positions until Hamas is completely disarmed.
He also said that he had instructed the Israeli military to do, quote, whatever is necessary to protect themselves in Gaza. And he also made clear
that this agreement between the U.S., the Board of Peace and Hamas, was not one that Israel had signed on to, referring to it as a draft for which
Israel had sent comments, but had not yet signed on to.
Now, that is the public facing posture from the prime minister. Behind the scenes, we have learned from one Israeli source that the Israeli military
has somewhat tightened its strike policy in Gaza.
Soldiers have been told to only operate to neutralize, quote, immediate threats according to this source. And any targeted killings, drone strikes,
for example, would require the approval of the Israeli military chief of staff, the top general of the Israeli military, whereas previously it had
those kinds of operations would have been approved at lower levels.
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And so that indicates at least an attempt to kind of show some good faith to the United States and the Board of Peace in this broader process here.
But it's important to note that even just hours after the Israeli prime minister sat down the other day with Nickolay Mladenov, the Board of
Peace's top official negotiating this agreement, we saw an Israeli strike in Gaza targeting a vehicle there.
So, clearly, Israel is not going to give up its -- what it sees as its right to carry out strikes in Gaza, despite this ceasefire agreement,
despite this new disarmament deal.
Of course, the position of Israeli troops is also going to be important to see. Hamas has demanded that Israel pull back to the yellow line as it was
agreed to back in October, not the additional territory that Israel has taken over in the months since then.
So, this is going to be a very, very delicate process going forward. Some indications that Israel is trying to move to mollify the United States and
adhere to this agreement at least somewhat, but again, this public posture that sounds very different from compliance.
ASHER: All right. Jamie Diamond, live for us. Thank you.
All right. Still to come, what we know about the man accused of starting one of the blazes tearing through eastern Washington State. We'll have that
story for you.
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GOLODRYGA: A man suspected of starting one of the wildfires tearing through Washington State is formally charged with first-degree arson.
37-year-old Aaron Farinacci appeared in court via a video link from Jail Tuesday. His bond was set at $1 million. He's expected to make another
court appearance on Thursday.
ASHER: Yes. Farinacci is accused of setting one of the blazes still ravaging in the Spokane area, where hundreds of homes have been destroyed
and thousands have been ordered to evacuate.
GOLODRYGA: Well, rising temperatures and dry conditions in the Pacific Northwest threatened to make the wildfires burning there even worse.
CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar joins us with a look at the forecast.
And we were talking about this earlier the week. Quite unfortunate that these temperatures will continue to soar. This is not the conditions that
would benefit those who are working to put these fires out throughout the day. Just tell us when they can see some relief.
ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: All right. So, they are getting some relief right now. The temperatures are high, but the winds are much calmer
than they were over the weekend. So, a lot of these fire crews are actually out there right now taking advantage of those calmer winds, hoping that
they can make some improvements, increase those containment numbers and really get a much better hold on these fires that are out there, so that we
don't have to worry about them when we start to see the winds increases we head into the weekend.
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But you are correct. The temperatures are much warmer right now than they would be, all thanks to this dome of high pressure here that is just kind
of settled over much of the western region of the country.
Now, the average in Spokane is about 87 degrees this time of year, but the next few days will all be into the 90s. So, you're talking several degrees
above where they normally would be and it's also incredibly dry in these areas.
You're looking at some of these humidity levels. You know, 10, 15, maybe most 20 percent though. So, you've got the dry fuel. You've got the very
hot conditions that's making it difficult for these firefighters.
The only benefit really has been the winds, but those are going to start to increase as we head into Friday and especially into Saturday where we will
start to see some of those winds getting back up around 20 to 25 miles per hour, maybe as high as 30.
Now, I want to emphasize that's not as high as we had last weekend when those fires moved through the area. Those were much closer to 40 miles per
hour, but we are still going to see an increase as we head into the weekend and that is going to be a concern.
So, here is that general area. Here is Spokane just for a reference point. As you notice, we go through the rest of the day, Wednesday and then jump
to Saturday. Notice how much faster those wind barbs are going to be moving and also a direction change. That's going to have an impact on some of the
smoke from some of these fires.
So, you're going to start to see it changing directions. That could impact some of the surrounding towns and communities that are there that are
perhaps getting a little bit of a break from the smoke as those winds begin to change and turn. You could start to see those. The smoke begin to enter
other areas.
So, a lot of these things are going to be a concern for these areas. Right now, the biggest concern is those temperatures.
But as we go through the next couple of days, the biggest concern is certainly going to be those winds. You have all of these air quality alerts
out, not just for areas of Washington, but some of the surrounding states like Oregon, Idaho, even portions of Wyoming and Colorado, also looking at
those air quality alerts.
Again, the main concern here is all of that smoke that is just kind of settled in across these regions.
Because those winds are calm, it just kind of lets a lot of that smoke settle into some of these areas. So, we are going to keep a close eye,
however, over the next couple of days as those winds are expected to increase back again.
GOLODRYGA: Allison Chinchar, thank you so much.
ASHER: We'll be right back with more after this short break.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
Jordan's Football Association is accusing FIFA of blackmail in the scathing post on X.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. The president of Jordan's F.A. Prince Ali bin Al Hussein claimed multiple requests for assistance to FIFA were turned down, because
Jordan refused to back Gianni Infantino's bid for re-election.
Now, this comes as Infantino bleed support from multiple associations and FIFA members due to a controversial plan to bring private money into the
World Cup.
ASHER: All right. Let's bring in CNN sports Don Riddell.
I mean, this is obviously hugely embarrassing for Infantino and FIFA. The fact that all of this is playing out from Jordan online publicly. You also
have this apparent emergency meeting that is taking place or took place with Infantino.
Just -- just explain to us how possible is it for -- for Infantino to turn things around at this point given how much support he's beating.
DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: It's just remarkable, isn't it? I mean, you say he's bleeding support, I would argue that he's hemorrhaging support.
And this is a man who, just a few months ago, was pretty much nailed on for a fourth consecutive term as FIFA president. He's already been in charge
for 11 years.
And just everything has completely turned in the last couple of weeks to the point now where the question is, can he even survive the next seven
months until the election? That is why this crisis meeting has been called in Morocco today.
If 43-member nations basically write a written request calling for an extraordinary congress, then there will have to be one. So, I mean, that's
the kind of fire that Infantino will be trying to put out today in Morocco.
But as you've just been outlining, the hits keep on coming. I mean, hugely embarrassing revelations from Jordan and Prince Ali. Basically, he's saying
that they were owed $4.2 million in prize money for reaching the final of the FIFA Arab Cup at the end of last year. And that money still hasn't been
paid.
You now also have this op-ed from Luis Figo, the former Ballon d'Or winner, who was absolutely scathing. I mean, he described Infantino as a relic of
the past, saying or describing Infantino's conduct as the lowest, most deceitful and cravenly self-interested behavior I have ever witnessed.
He said, I could have written 10,000 words about Gianni Infantino, but I'll keep it to just three, Infantino must go.
So, yes, he has absolutely lost support of member federations, confederations. Remember, UEFA, which has 55 European countries under its
umbrella said, if this thing goes ahead, then we're just not going to be playing in the World Cup anymore.
So, I mean, that was a couple of weeks ago and things haven't really got much better for Infantino since then.
ASHER: Yes. We'll keep a close eye on what happens. And as you point out, yes, not just bleeding support, hemorrhaging. I mean, just things getting
worse. And obviously, this -- this whole thing with Jordan being played out into the open is obviously a nightmare, even more of a nightmare for
Infantino.
Don Riddell, live for us. Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, part of a SpaceX rocket was expected to crash into the moon early this morning, but there hasn't been any confirmation of
it just yet.
ASHER: Yes. The Falcon 9 rocket launched last year after the mission, the parts that aren't needed would normally burn up in the Earth's atmosphere,
but instead, gravity pulled the rocket debris into a collision course with the moon.
GOLODRYGA: The impact itself was not expected to be visible from Earth more than 338,000 kilometers away, but experts say the debris plume kicked up by
the collision could catch sunlight and may be detectable through telescopes.
All right. Coming up for us, A.I. agents have gone rogue again. We'll have the details on how they used fake identities to target real people. That's
next.
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ASHER: All right. Let's check and see how the U.S. markets are doing. Dow is up about one percent. S&P 500 is basically flat. And NASDAQ, down ever
so slightly. All right. This is your business breakout.
GOLODRYGA: China is hitting the U.S. with sanctions. Beijing says the move is in retaliation for Washington banning imports from 43 Chinese companies
over alleged human rights abuses. The tit for tat sanctions come just weeks ahead of an expected U.S. summit between President Trump and Chinese
President Xi Jinping amid a growing tech rivalry.
ASHER: Buzz Lightyear could soon be performing a TikTok dance trend. That's because Disney is embracing the creator community that media giant and
TikTok have announced a partnership deal. It would let social media creators make videos based on Disney's famous characters, including those
from Pixar and "Star Wars."
GOLODRYGA: SpaceX exceeded expectations in its first earnings report since becoming a public company. Revenue jumped 92 percent from the same period
in 2025. However, stocks tumbled in late trading as investors questioned, in part, the eye-popping amount Elon Musk's company spent on A.I.
All right. As we teased earlier ahead of the break, A.I. goes rogue again. This time, Britain's A.I. security institute said that in a lab experiment,
Anthropic and OpenAI models took on fake identities and tried to trick real people.
ASHER: Yes. All this was revealed on the same day top A.I. companies met officials at the White House to discuss government testing of A.I. models
before they're widely released. Both Anthropic and OpenAI confirms the incidents.
GOLODRYGA: CNN's A.I. correspondent Hadas Gold is following the story. She joins us from New York.
So more of the same or is this a different concern here, Hadas?
HADAS GOLD, CNN A.I. CORRESPONDENT: This one's a little bit different because it's not about A.I. models going rogue and hacking into anything.
This is about A.I. models using the good old social engineering, psychological tricks to try and trick real humans into doing something bad
on their behalf. So it's still notable, but it's still slightly different than the other incidents we had, where A.I. agents were breaking out of
their testing environments and hacking into other company systems.
So, what happened? This is the U.K. government's A.I. institute and they were doing tests on some of the advanced A.I. models for both Anthropic and
OpenAI. And they said that out of 122 evaluations, they found 19 unsanctioned actions, meaning, these were not actions that they asked the
A.I.'s to do. They did them outside of the scope of what they were supposed to be allowed to do.
Of those 19, 17 of them came from Anthropic's models and two of them came from OpenAI's. And Anthropics models were the ones that were doing the most
sort of interesting, potentially dangerous activity.
So, what the Anthropic model was trying to do was it wanted to essentially insert malicious code into GitHub. GitHub is an online repository of
software code. You can kind of think of it like Wikipedia and that people can submit things to it and then human reviewers will review the code and
add it or not.
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And so this agent tried to create fake online identities to try and trick a human reviewer into accepting the malicious code.
After their actions were challenged, they then modified. The earlier record tried to kind of like change their records, make it seem like it wasn't so
bad and even considered creating a brand new identity to keep trying.
It then, as part of that same effort, tried to contact other real people, sending messages and files to try to persuade them to run this malicious
code.
Now, to be clear, the agent was unsuccessful and no harm was done. But according to the U.K. Security Institute, they say that this is the first
time that they have seen deception of this severity that was targeted at a real person, unprompted, and in the real world.
So, it is part of the string we're seeing of these A.I. agents going rogue in a way and taking actions that were not necessarily prompted by the human
reviewers.
But keep in mind that these models, like, the other ones that escape their test environments or hacked into the real system, they had their security
guardrails removed. So, they didn't have any sort of rules and regulations telling them what was OK and what wasn't OK.
And in this specific case, these models did have access to the internet as part of the test. So, it's not like the other cases where they somehow
broke out of their test environment and got access to the open internet.
So, it's still in the same vein of an A.I. model doing something it's not supposed to, but it's more about an A.I. model trying to trick humans into
doing something for them rather than an A.I. model hacking into other systems completely on its own unprompted.
Very interesting that it's happened and very significant that it's happened, but a slightly different case.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. The first case of its kind, but likely not the last.
Hadas Gold, thank you so much for joining us.
ASHER: And you are watching "One World." We'll be back after the short break.
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GOLODRYGA: The U.S. is one of the world's wealthiest countries. The rest -- actually, the richest country in the world, yet millions of children still
don't know where their next meal will come from.
ASHER: Yes. On New York's Long Island alone, more than 71,000 children face food insecurity. They get federally funded meals during the school week,
but no support on the weekends or on school holidays, creating what campaigners call the hunger gap.
GOLODRYGA: And one teenager, one high schooler, is working to change that. In 2024, Lachlan Vogel created the Kids Food Independence Program to make
sure children in his area have access to good food outside of school. And Lachlan joins us now. Lachlan, welcome to the program.
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I was floored when I heard about what you came up with a couple of years ago. And for most of us, when we were kids, when you approach summertime,
you think of what camps you're going to go to, what vacations you're going to take with your families, and you instead calculated that there's 182
days a year where kids on Long Island lose access to school meals.
How did this thought come to you? And what made you act on putting together this organization?
LACHLAN VOGEL, FOUNDER, KIDS FOOD INDEPENDENCE PROGRAM: Well, thank you for having me, Bianna and Zain. I'm truly excited and grateful to be able to
share KFIP's mission of ending childhood food insecurity.
And I really want to show that no matter your age or no matter your background, you can really have meaningful change in your community.
So, I first started volunteering at my local food pantry called NOSH Delivers. And I saw food insecurity firsthand.
And I realized that on weekends and school breaks, and especially the summer, which is the longest hunger gap, kids aren't receiving reliable
access to meals, which is why I founded KFIP to fill that hunger gap on those days when kids aren't receiving reliable access.
I actually have a KFIP bag with me today. It's a hand decorated shelf- stable meal bag. And this specifically is a breakfast one. So, it has cereal and it has milk. And we put that on our shelves. And it's slowly
grown into such a vital thing for our community.
In 2025, we provided over 40,000 meal bags. And consistently, we've been providing 1,200 every single week in our projected to provide over 60,000
in 2026.
So, KFIP is rooted in community and it's for kids, by kids. So, we really love to involve schools, local organizations to decorate the bags. And we
even involve recipient kids and families to decorate the bags because we believe in breaking the stigma behind receiving food assistance.
And we want to empower these kids to have what we call food independence, which is in KFIP's name by taking a meal bag and actually contributing to
their family's weekly budget by getting a bag. And then we want to empower them by also having them decorate bags themselves and get involved.
ASHER: You know, Lachlan, as a news anchor, sometimes I feel like I've seen it all, right? I've interviewed so many different types of people, but
rarely or never, I should say, have I interviewed a 17-year-old who has started a program to -- I mean, just essentially what you're doing. You're
basically enabling other young kids to help children who are in need.
And this is -- I'm so touched by this. Bianna and I are both mothers. And my -- my question to you is, what was it about the way that you were raised
that has made you such a thoughtful and kind-hearted 17-year-old?
VOGEL: I mean, truly with KFIP's theme, the impact that we're making just makes me want to continue showing up every day, and which is why we've
gotten so much positive feedback from my community and all the people that have interned for us or volunteered for all the families that were just
inspired by our mission.
I believe that by sharing this with the world, I think there should be KFIPs in the communities across America and across the world to bring the
community together, whether you're low income, no matter who you are, to come together under one roof and decorate a KFIP bag and pack it together,
put some positive messages and inspire other people to get involved.
GOLODRYGA: Well, I can -- to answer your question, he has a phenomenal mother at home. And I know that a lot of this came from your own agency,
Lachlan, and what you've seen in the need for assisting these families with food.
But I know that the foundation, a lot of this, a lot of this just compassion and empathy comes from your mother as well.
Let's talk about the numbers, 40,000 bags in one year, 1,200 a week. You've got ambassadors at 13 schools. I know that you are trying to expand this
beyond just Long Island.
So, for other teens out there that are watching and saying, listen, I'm 17. I want to do something for my community as well. Clearly, there are amazing
results here. What is your advice to them?
VOGEL: I mean, I think whether you're working with KFIP or whether you're seeing a problem with your own community, you can truly take action and
start something yourself, involve your friends, and then kind of build it up and inspire other people to get involved as well.
Because childhood food insecurity is a real issue. And a lot of people don't realize that we did the math like you said. There's 182 days out of
the year. Kids aren't receiving these critical meals. So, we came up with a fun solution to both empower the kids getting involved with the program and
empower the kids that are volunteers as well and bring the community together, which is what KFIP is all about.
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I mean, I think communities like mine across America can come together. Decorate KFIP bags to solve childhood food insecurity. Become a KFIP
ambassador at your school to raise awareness about child hunger. Or start something else that you believe there's a problem within your community
that isn't addressed.
Because no matter your age, no matter your background, you can really step up and create something like KFIB.
ASHER: But not -- not only that, I am sure, Lachlan, for you, just starting this program has made you that much more grateful, right?
I mean, the fact that you have three meals a day. You know, the fact that you don't have to worry about when you're when or where your next meal is
coming from. I'm sure that this program has made you that much more appreciative. I mean, it certainly made me just watching what you started
here, Lachlan.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And the -- you take away the stigma too with this program. So, you're helping other kids. And I know that they are so grateful for
everything that you and your colleagues do.
Lachlan Vogel, thank you so much.
ASHER: Give me your mother's email so I can get advice about my kids, please.
GOLODRYGA: Keep it up.
All right. That does it for "One World" today. I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: All right. Thank you for watching. I'm Zain Asher. "Amanpour" is up next.
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