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Kushner: Progress On Gaza Deal Could Come Quite Soon; Interceptor Missile Shortage Crippling Ukraine's Defense; OpenAI Launches "ChatGPT For Teens" Amid String Of Lawsuits; Day Two Of The Tupac Shakur Murder Trial Is Underway; Disney Sues Trump's FCC Over "Retaliatory Campaign" Against ABC; CDC Reports Kindergarten Vaccine Exemptions Hit All-Time High; Florida Voters Head To Polls For Primary Elections; Trump Suggests He Recently Spoke To North Korea's Kim Jong Un; Pigeon Tours Are The Latest Popular Philadelphia Outing; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I like the idea of declaring it a territory.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why might do that?
TRUMP: We have total control over the Strait.
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GOLODRYGA: It's considered an international waterway, but Donald Trump says the Strait of Hormuz should belong to the United States.
ASHER: Also ahead, it's the most sought after weapon in the world, and right now, it is sitting empty in the corn fields of Ukraine. CNN's
exclusive access to weapons that Ukraine desperately needs, but can't use.
GOLODRYGA: Plus, what's ChatGPT Teen? And will it help keep teenagers safe? The A.I. giant says its new program is different than all the rest.
All right. Well, Donald Trump says no talks between the U.S. and Iran are taking place, and none are scheduled as the war drags on for a sixth month.
But the U.S. president says the Strait of Hormuz is open and operating despite evidence to the contrary.
ASHER: Yes. President Trump shared on his social media platform early today. The Strait is circled underneath a label saying, "New U.S.
Territory."
In peacetime, the narrow waterway is, of course, a crucial conduit for shipping. President Trump was asked about Washington's negotiations with
Tehran at the White House on Monday.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you any closer today to reaching a final deal to end Iran's nuclear program? Then you work --
TRUMP: Well, they want to make a deal, but they're not going to make the kind of a deal that I feel is necessary.
Look, we're in there for one reason, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. You understand that? Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. And they won't have a
nuclear weapon.
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GOLODRYGA: Separately, Jared Kushner, the U.S. Middle East envoy and President Trump's son-in-law says, the U.S. expects Hamas to start
disarming soon.
Kushner has been in the region to try to kick start the Trump administration's stalled peace plan for Gaza. He talked to Hamas officials
as well as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and says progress could come soon.
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JARED KUSHNER, U.S. ENVOY: We can be seeing progress, you know, in as much as -- in as little as 30 days. Hopefully on, you know, starting to take
some of the weapons out and hopefully, you know, filling in some of the tunnels as well in the next 60 to 90 days as well.
So, progress could come quite soon, but we do need cooperation from both sides. And -- and we're going to hopefully get through.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN's Jeremy Diamond is in Tel Aviv, Israel and joins us now.
So, Jeremy, I think most people can agree that that is quite an ambitious goal and one that we would like to see implemented. But what is the
mechanism that they are hoping to set in place to make sure that Hamas is, in fact, disarming and that those Hamas tunnels are finally closed off as
well?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think one of Jared Kushner's key tasks was communicating to the Israelis that there will be
very significant American oversight of any decommissioning effort as it relates to Hamas' weapons with an American general in charge of the
international stabilization force that would oversee the decommissioning of those weapons.
But beyond the specific mechanisms, I think Jared Kushner's primary task was to try and get Israeli compliance and adherence to this peace plan and
to also try and make the case to the Israeli prime minister for why he and the Israeli government should be cooperating with this plan.
Kushner, in that interview with Fox News, basically said that if Hamas doesn't follow through on these commitments, then it will be revealed to
the world that they weren't genuine about the peace and Israel will then have the opportunity and critically the support of the United States to go
in and, quote, finish the job in the appropriate way. That's what Jared Kushner said in that interview just yesterday.
And so according to an Israeli source, we were also told that Kushner told Netanyahu not to create any obstacles to this agreement. And U.S. and Board
of Peace officials have told us that despite some of the Israeli rhetoric that is public facing, that behind the scenes, the Israelis have actually
been more cooperative with this plan than they would lead on to believe.
However, in just the last few minutes, we've gotten confirmation of an Israeli military strike in the Gaza Strip, just one day after Jared Kushner
met with the Israeli prime minister. This strike, according to officials on the ground, has killed at least five people.
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The Israeli military has confirmed that it carried out this strike alongside the port in Gaza City. The military claiming that it struck Hamas
commanders who were preparing an attack against Israeli troops.
We don't yet have a full report on casualties, as well as civilians who may have been killed or wounded in this strike as well. But obviously, this is
going to raise questions about Israel's commitment to this agreement, because U.S. and Board of Peace officials have been asking Israel to
restrain itself, as it relates to strikes in Gaza unless absolutely necessary.
Obviously, the Israeli military, in this case, claiming that it was stopping an imminent attack by these Hamas militants. That is an argument
that they have used in the past for strikes that sometimes do not prove to be as imminent as they appeared.
But that is at least the statement from the Israeli military, again on the ground, at least five people killed and new questions raised about Israel's
commitment to this process.
GOLODRYGA: Jeremy Diamond reporting live for us. Thank you.
ASHER: All right. Over the past year, Ukraine's drone technology has improved dramatically as Russian-Ukraine continue to step up aerial
attacks. Civilians are the ones left paying the price.
Moscow says Ukraine launched a large drone assault overnight. In this video, geolocated by CNN, you can actually see the exact moment when
Russian air defense has intercepted a drone attack. The midair blast causing debris to fall in a city near Moscow.
GOLODRYGA: And early Tuesday, a Russian missile attack killed at least 10 people in the Kharkiv region of Ukraine. This comes as Russia looks to
exploit Ukraine's critical shortage of missile interceptors.
CNN has been granted exclusive access to a U.S. made Patriot launcher in Ukraine. It's the most sought-after weapon in the world now sitting idly
there.
Nick Paton Walsh explains the ammunition's shortage.
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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice- over): Out in the quiet corn, a moment of absolute desperation. Ukraine's never shown anyone this before, an American-made Patriot air defense
launcher.
The interceptors they fire, the only thing that can take down Russian ballistic missiles that rained down on Ukraine, are under a huge global
supply shortage, but these here are sitting idle, doing nothing. When in Ukraine, they could be saving lives almost nightly.
Why? They're empty, out of ammo.
WALSH: This tube being empty is a sight, really, that would spark fear for ordinary Ukrainians and is the product of dozens of phone calls to any
ally. All sorts of deal-making, President Zelenskyy told me, to try and find the interceptors to fill this up. An extraordinary step they're taking
by showing us the fact this particular Patriot battery is essentially out of action until interceptors arrive, a sign of desperation.
Chief Engineer Dmytro says it is two and a half months since this one fired and six weeks since he saw one fire at all.
DMYTRO, CHIEF ENGINEER, UKRAINE'S PATRIOT SYSTEM: It is actually, this is a very heartbreaking sight when you have equipment but you're not able to
intercept any -- any missile. This is very sad when you know that ballistic missiles are flying over your head and you are not able to do anything with
it. And you know that behind you there are citizens.
WALSH: And how does that make you feel knowing that you should help but can't?
DMYTRO: Like you learn how to walk but you're not able to walk or you're able -- or you -- you know how to breathe but you're not able to breathe.
WALSH (voice-over): He knew the global supply crunch was coming.
DMYTRO: When we saw how many -- how many interceptors were launched in the Middle East, we predicted that we will be in trouble.
WALSH (voice-over): Ukraine has been reluctant to admit if they have zero interceptors left, President Zelenskyy telling me every morning he begs
allies for more.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: I do some things which I can't even share. It's not -- it doesn't mean that it's out of the law, no, but
it's -- I can't speak about it.
WALSH (voice-over): Kyiv is rocked by a massive ballistic attack normally once a week, racing to the subway and shelters where before they felt
protected, they are not anymore. It is America first in the queue, and Ukraine left to anxiety in the rubble.
Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Kyiv, Ukraine.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, as A.I. and social media platforms face active lawsuits over child safety concerns, OpenAI has now introduced ChatGPT for Teens.
ASHER: Yes. OpenAI is facing a string of lawsuits alleging that conversations young people had with ChatGPT contributed to mental health
harm or deaths. But OpenAI insists, its new platform will be safer.
Meantime, opening statements are taking place for the case against Meta over child safety concerns on Facebook and Instagram. That's kicking off
right now. These cases could have a major impact on A.I. and social media going forward.
Our tech reporter and host of CNN podcast "Terms of Service," Clare Duffy is on the story. She joins us live now.
I mean, we were talking last hour about what makes this case different because literally, Bianna was saying that there are -- there are literally
thousands of lawsuits against Meta and other social media companies, but part of it is the $1.4 trillion in damages and also the fact that this is a
multi-district lawsuit involving at least 29 states, Clare.
CLARE DUFFY, CNN TECH REPORTER: Yes, Zain. I mean, that I think is really the big focus here is the potential scale of the consequences for Meta in
this case. It has already lost two of these social media addiction cases on the hook for about a billion dollars in damages in those cases.
But this case that is kicking off today, state attorneys general are seeking, as you said, $1.4 trillion in damages. That is nearly as much as
the company is worth on Wall Street.
And even if they didn't get that big of a number, they're also seeking changes to how the platforms operate. So, if Meta were to lose this case,
we could see really significant changes to the experience that all of us have on social media.
This case brought by 29 state attorneys general. This trial that kicks off today in federal court in Oakland will be argued by lawyers for four of
those states, alleging that Meta intentionally designed its platforms to be addictive with features like the endlessly scrolling feeds, the
recommendation algorithms.
They're also claiming that Meta has misled the public about the risks of its platforms and that it has illegally gathered data from children under
the age of 13.
Now, Meta is pushing back hard on these claims calling them unsubstantiated saying that attorneys general are chasing a, quote, outlandish payout.
And now, Zain and Bianna, a jury will have a chance to consider both sides of this argument, they'll ultimately be advising the judge who will be
responsible for the verdict in this case.
GOLODRYGA: You know, Clare, I was reading, I believe it was in "The Wall Street Journal" today an article. And we've had these types of
conversations in the past when it comes to social media, and I guess the same applies for A.I., that these tech company CEOs may be doing one thing
in terms of trying to spread their business model to consumers in the workplace, but at home in their private lives, they are shielding their
children from the very same thing.
So, just talk to us now about what we're learning about ChatGPT for Teens and how that applies to some of the concerns that these executives have had
about their own kids using too much screen time.
DUFFY: Yes. I mean, I think there is a real tension whether you're talking about social media or you're talking about A.I. between the business model
of these companies, which in many ways relies on keeping people using them for as long as possible and what is healthy, especially for young people
using these platforms.
OpenAI has certainly faced significant scrutiny over child safety with ChatGPT. So, the company is now rolling out this ChatGPT for Teens specific
experience for users under the age of 18 that brings together some existing protections that they had rolled out over the past year with new tools.
Those will include things like take a break nudges if a user has been using the platform for 90 minutes within a several hour period. Also options for
both parents and teens to set quiet hours where ChatGPT won't be available or study hours where it's learning mode will be on by default.
They'll be preventing ChatGPT from expressing personal feelings towards a user. And also they'll be having reminders for teens to think twice if
they've tried to upload a private or sensitive image.
ChatGPT is also going to be alerting parents if their teen has potentially problematic conversations with the chat bot. This is something that OpenAI
had already rolled out for suicide related conversations. They're adding eating disorder related conversations.
And OpenAI's head of families and youth safety, Lauren Jonas, was on with "CNN This Morning" talking about this. Take a listen to what she said
there.
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LAUREN JONAS, HEAD OF YOUTH WELL-BEING AND FAMILIES, OPENAI: One of the things that we're doing with ChatGPT for Teens, and we were the first in
the industry to do this, is launch what we're calling parental safety notifications.
So, if a teen is having a hard time on ChatGPT, a parent is notified with ChatGPT for Teens. We're expanding the categories where we're notifying
parents if a teen is having a hard time.
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DUFFY: Now, Jonas was also asked about the lawsuits that have been filed against OpenAI claiming that ChatGPT was complicit in the deaths or harm of
young children.
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And she did acknowledge that while the company is trying and working hard on this issue, she said their safety work is never done and to expect more
from the company on this front.
GOLODRYGA: By the way, it is "The New York Times." I stand corrected, not "The Wall Street Journal." Not that article. Very timely.
ASHER: All right. Clare Duffy, live for us. Thank you so much for that.
All right. Day two of the Tupac Shakur murder trial is underway. This comes some 30 years after the hip-hop legend was gunned down at the height of his
career.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Prosecutors accused Duane Davis of orchestrating the 1996 murder in retaliation for an assault on his nephew.
Meanwhile, defense attorneys for Davis argued that there is a lack of facts in the case. They cite the work of a former detective who was assigned to
the case. And he was, quote, biased, sloppy, and incomplete.
CNN's Josh Campbell gives us a closer look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We now have Mr. Davis. He's present in custody with Mr. Sanft.
JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Almost 30 years after rap icon Tupac Shakur was gunned down in Las Vegas, the trial for the
man who prosecutors say orchestrated the shooting is at long last underway.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let's bring in the jury.
CAMPBELL (voice-over): Duane "Keffe D" Davis is the only person to ever be charged in the infamous slaying. Prosecutors say he didn't pull the trigger
on September 7th, 1996, but was the shot caller that fateful night near the Las Vegas Strip. Prosecutors are calling the 1996 killing an act of
revenge.
BINU PALAL, CHIEF DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Well, what he did do was plan the retaliation for the beating of his nephew.
CAMPBELL (voice-over): Surveillance video shows Tupac Shakur leaving the MGM Grand Hotel with Suge Knight, Trevon Lane, and others after watching a
Mike Tyson fight on the night of the shooting.
They run into Davis's nephew, Orlando Anderson, who was standing alone in the lobby and start attacking him.
Months before, Anderson had pulled a Death Row Records chain off of Trevon Lane's neck at a shopping center near Compton. This escalated tension, the
prosecutor said. They encountered each other again, this time, in Las Vegas.
The fight happened about two and a half hours before the shooting, according to the prosecutor.
On Monday, the prosecutor read excerpts from Davis' 2019 memoir, "Compton Street Legend."
PALAL: Then jumping on my nephew gave us the ultimate green light to do something to them. (BLEEP)
CAMPBELL (voice-over): While Davis' public interviews were also mentioned.
PALAL: He admits to being the boss. He admits to being in the white Cadillac. And he admits to being part of the murder of Tupac Shakur.
CAMPBELL (voice-over): Defense attorney Michael Sanft warned the jury not to believe his own client's past statements about his role in the incident.
MICHAEL SANFT, ATTORNEY FOR DUANE "KEFFE D" DAVIS: Keffe D was known to do this. That's the testimony you're going to hear in this case.
CAMPBELL (voice-over): The defense also argued there's no evidence Davis was in Nevada when Tupac was shot, telling jurors to determine what is fact
and what is fiction.
SANFT: Look for evidence that shows that Keffe D was even in Las Vegas on the night of the fight. Receipts, credit cards, a picture of him standing
next to somebody else. There's no evidence at all that that man was even at the fight.
CAMPBELL (voice-over): Davis is now 63 and is the only individual allegedly involved in the murder who is still alive. He's entered a not-guilty plea.
If convicted, he faces up to life in prison.
SANFT: You have to corroborate everything I say in order for it to be true. What you're going to find is that the state cannot prove to you, beyond a
reasonable doubt, the claim that Keffe D had anything to do with a first- degree murder with use of deadly weapon. There's no facts to that matter.
CAMPBELL (voice-over): Josh Campbell, CNN, Las Vegas.
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ASHER: All right. Still to come here on "One World," it is another primary election Tuesday here in the U.S. We'll head to Florida where voters are
delivering key tests for both Democrats and Republicans today.
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ASHER: All right. Let's take a look here and see how the Dow or the markets across the board here in the U.S. are doing. Red across the board. The Dow
is down ever so slightly. The NASDAQ is down by one percent. S&P 500, down half of a percent. This is your business breakout.
GOLODRYGA: Brent Crude, the international oil benchmark, is back above $90 a barrel. Now, the uptick in the price is being fueled by fading hopes of a
U.S.-Iran peace deal. President Trump says that there are no talks underway or scheduled with Tehran.
ASHER: Meta is in court today facing a massive federal trial. A coalition of U.S. states accuses the social media giant of designing Facebook and
Instagram to addict children and harm their mental health. Meta is also accused of illegally harvesting children's data as well. The company denies
these allegations.
GOLODRYGA: Disney is taking the U.S. Federal Communications Commission or FCC to court. The media giant says it's defending its U.S. television
network ABC from the Trump administration. The lawsuit alleges that Trump's FCC is violating the network's First Amendment rights.
ASHER: And Disney goes on to accuse the Trump administration of carrying out what it calls a retaliatory campaign.
CNN's Brian Stelter brings us more on this case.
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BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA ANALYST: I've just reread the lawsuit that was filed this morning in D.C. District Court. It opens with some strong
words that says, quote, government censorship is deeply un-American. And that's what Disney is alleging here, that the Trump administration is using
the tools at its disposal to pressure ABC to change its content.
Whether that's late at night on Jimmy Kimmel's anti-Trump late night show, or whether it's during the day on the hit daytime talk show, "The View," or
whether it's on other ABC programs.
The network says it is feeling pressure from the administration and that that amounts to a violation of the First Amendment. Not just because of
President Trump's words, where he often maligns ABC and degrades the coverage and calls for its licenses to be revoked, but especially and more
importantly through the government's actions.
Earlier this year, the FCC opened a probe of "The View" over an alleged equal time violation.
And then a couple months later, the FCC called up ABC's station licenses for a highly unusual, almost unprecedented renewal process several years
ahead of schedule.
That process is widely seen as a form of retaliation against ABC for not firing Kimmel and not changing the programming in other ways.
And Disney's message in this lawsuit this morning is very clear. It says that the Trump administration is bullying ABC, but that the Trump
administration will come for all the other media companies as well.
Quote, "If the administration gets its way, the message to every media company in the country will be unmistakable. Tell only the stories the
administration deems favorable or face the coercive machinery of the federal government."
So, Disney is saying it's suing the administration reluctantly, not trying to get into a fight with the president, but because it needs to defend its
stations against the First Amendment threat.
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GOLODRYGA: Our thanks to Brian Stelter for that report.
All right. More students than ever before in the U.S. are going without vaccines normally required to attend school.
ASHER: Yes. The CDC published new data showing 4.2 percent of kindergartners received an exemption for at least one vaccine last school
year. That equates to around 157,000 children.
GOLODRYGA: That's a record, even as vaccination rates among school age kids has been declining for years.
And now that number could rise with President Trump's new executive order aiming to give parents more choice over vaccinations for their children,
noting that states should provide religious and medical exemptions.
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For more on this, let's bring in Dr. Georges Benjamin. He is the CEO of the American Public Health Association. Doctor, welcome back to the program.
It's been a while.
I know that you have called this executive order policy malpractice. But if we could just talk about the implications now of separating MMR vaccines
into three individual shots a year, especially at a time when measles cases, I believe, are at a 35-year high, what does that do, not only to the
efficacy of each individual vaccine, but the burden that it puts on the parents and doctors to have to come in not once, but three times to get
this shot?
DR. GEORGES BENJAMIN, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION: Well, the first thing we have to remind ourselves is that the
individual shots are not produced that way. So, the -- the companies don't produce it. So, it's not available, first of all.
But even if it was, what this result is instead of the kids going to the doctor twice to get their shots, they'll have to go six times. That means
parents will have to take off from work six times. Now, that means they'll have to pay every time they go into the doctor's office.
So, more shots, more paying, more money, more inconvenience for both the kids and their parents.
And a higher risk of them being exposed to infectious disease because they'll be unvaccinated early on and then under vaccinated until they get
their second shot. And that's a real problem. Particularly for kids who go to school. Those kids are going to get, you know, infected by other kids.
ASHER: And just speaking of the MMR vaccination rates, MMR vaccination rates right now in the United States is at 92 percent, which sounds
relatively high. But you do need 95 percent for herd immunity.
So, how concerned are you? I mean, even though 92 percent by all -- by all standards would be a high number, the fact that it is now below that 95
percent level, what's the concern there?
BENJAMIN: The concern is that we have a weighty measles outbreak in this country. And we have clusters of people who are unvaccinated or under-
vaccinated. And those are the ones who are getting infected.
And so what we're going to see now is more measles outbreaks from these kids that are in communities that are under-vaccinated.
And remember that the vaccine, which is highly effective and very, very safe, isn't 100 percent. So that you will still get some transmission. And
so we'll see more cases of measles. And this is a very, very miserable disease to get.
GOLODRYGA: Oh, of course. And it had been all, but I mean, officially eradicated in this country. It's not just the United States that doesn't
bear that mark now. It is a number of other countries that say that they can no longer call it eradicated in their own countries. But nonetheless,
as we noted, it's at a 35-year high.
Something to remind our viewers about is that here in the United States, state-set vaccine requirements, that is something that's upheld by the
Supreme Court as well. Twenty-eight states now say that they're going to ignore the federal vaccine guidelines.
Does that effectively make the CDC less and less relevant? And what are the concerns associated on that front?
BENJAMIN: You know, having a -- having a national standard that is evidence-based and good science is very, very important. So, it does
undermine the ability of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention to be the national authority.
And so until that we get a national government that wants to be science- based, we're going to have to rely on professional societies and professional standards that have been put out by groups like the American
Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecologists in order for us to protect our
kids.
Unfortunately, the advice given by the federal government right now has to be verified and is very, very suspect.
GOLODRYGA: Dr. Georges Benjamin, I have a feeling we'll be spending quite a bit more time with you and your colleagues over the next few months,
especially as school year gets underway and the flu season comes back as well. Thank you so much for the time.
We'll be right back.
BENJAMIN: Thank you.
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ASHER: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: Polls are open in Florida where voters are casting ballots in key primary races.
GOLODRYGA: It is the first time Florida voters heads to polls under a new and controversial congressional map designed by the Republican governor to
help Republicans set an additional four seats.
ASHER: One prominent Democrat is now having to run in a different district. Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz is seeking another term by running
in Florida's 20th district.
CNN's Randi Kaye is following all things from Florida. She's in the city of Lauderhill in Broward County. Randi, thank you so much for being with us.
I mean, for our international audience, especially decades ago, years ago, less than decades ago, actually, we were all sort of taught that Florida is
a classic swing state. And now, we're seeing it move and become much more of a solidly red state. Talk to us about that. And also how redistricting
is playing a role in this primary.
RANDI KAYE, CNN U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the idea behind redistricting is to try and help it become more Republican, at least that's
what the goal seems to be on the Republican side.
But, of course, the Democrats would like it to remain just a little bit more purple. But they are trying to gain some seats by redrawing the
congressional districts. And many of them that were traditionally Democratic are now leaning more into the Republican category like the
district that Debbie Wasserman Schultz was in.
She is now running for a 12th time, but her original district, her old district, was District 25. But now that is much more -- looks much more
Republican. So, she's now running. She has decided to run in -- in district -- congressional District 20, which is why we're here in Lauderhill, that
is this district here.
And that is a, it's an interesting story because this is a historically black district. There has been a black lawmaker in the seat here for more
than 30 years. And Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the only white candidate who's running in that primary. The other four candidates are black.
Now, they've tried to coalesce. They've tried to come together and unite behind one candidate, the other four, but they had a meeting about this,
but they just couldn't decide on which candidate that should be.
So, now the concern is that they could end up splitting the vote and possibly handing the race to Debbie Wasserman Schultz. They've also accused
her of district shopping, trying to find a safer district to run in instead of her original district, which is, as I said, looking more Republican.
So, let me tell you who her opponents are very quickly. One is Luther Campbell. He is the former front man for the group 2 Live Crew, rapper
turned activist. Also Dale Holness. He's the former Broward County mayor. That's the county we're in. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick. McCormick, she is a
former congresswoman who resigned her seat because she's facing an ethics investigation. She says she did nothing wrong, but she allegedly used
millions of dollars in federal money and funneled it into her campaign.
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And finally, Elijah Manley. He's a 27-year-old Democrat. He's a self- proclaimed democratic socialist. So, we've seen this play out in -- in elections across the country and primary elections, where the Democratic
socialists have won.
So, we'll see what happens with him. He has been very critical of Debbie Wasserman Schultz saying that she chose to run in a district where she
previously represented just two percent of the voters, so she could maintain her power. That is more meaningful to her than having any
connection to the community.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz has denied that. She says that she has represented plenty of the people here because there was some crossover between the two
districts, but according to Elijah Manley, not much.
Back to you.
GOLODRYGA: Florida, one of the fastest vote-counting states in the country. So hopefully, we should know the results relatively early tonight.
Thank you so much, Randi.
KAYE: Absolutely.
GOLODRYGA: Appreciate the reporting.
KAYE: Sure.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, Donald Trump says no talks between -- actually, we're going to go to a different story.
Zambian President.
KAYE: Thank you.
ASHER: Hakainde --
GOLODRYGA: Thank you.
ASHER: Hakainde Hichilema supporters celebrated his reelection early on Tuesday. Zambia's election commission said that Hichilema received roughly
60 percent of the vote. He campaigned on his first term economic record, including a debt restructuring. Hichilema took office in 2021 while Zambia
suffered a pandemic-era debt crisis.
All right. Still to come on "One World."
GOLODRYGA: President Trump suggests that he recently spoke with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and says he's cutting back joint military
exercises with South Korea. Ahead, the impact on the Koreas and the rest of the world.
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ASHER: All right. U.S. President Donald Trump suggests that he's spoken recently with North Korea's Kim Jong Un. That news comes after Trump
announced that the U.S. was cutting back on joint military exercises with South Korea. Here's what he told reporters at the White House.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why hasn't Kim Jong Un responded to your request to have a conversation?
TRUMP: How do you know he hasn't respond?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Has he?
TRUMP: Yes, he has.
I understand him. He understands me. You're doing war games. I get along with him. You know, he didn't like Biden. He didn't like Obama. He didn't
like anybody, but I get along with him very well. You know, what I'm doing is making things safer.
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GOLODRYGA: Trump and Kim met three times during President Trump's first term. They held denuclearization talks, but never reached an agreement.
Meanwhile, South Korea's president says that a solid alliance with the U.S. is, quote, mutually necessary. He also told his cabinet that his country
needs to speed up its nuclear-powered submarine project.
ASHER: Time now for "The Exchange" former U.S. Ambassador to South Korea, Christopher Hill, joins us live. He's also a former assistant secretary of
state for East Asian and Pacific Affairs.
I mean, it's interesting, Donald Trump sort of knew overtures to Kim Jong Un. And what I specifically find interesting is the fact that the last time
we were here with President Trump meeting three times with Kim Jong Un, we remember that sort of famous summit back in 2018, it didn't really work.
After that, summits, North Korea actually moved to accelerate their nuclear program. So, your thoughts on what is behind this new sort of overtures
that -- that -- that the U.S. president is making here.
CHRISTOPHER HILL, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO SOUTH KOREA: First of all, having a process with North Korea is not a bad idea. Nothing's been done in
a number of years. And frankly, we've seen the North Koreans move ahead with their military program, and in particular, with their nuclear program.
So, no problem with having a process going forward.
I think the real issue, though, is we seem to have given a concession just for the purpose of having talks with the North Koreans. I mean, we've --
we've said we're going to scale down these -- these annual exercises.
We've had these annual exercises now for some, you know, for decades. And the idea of giving concessions to someone for the -- for the honor of
getting to talk to them, I think, is a little problematic.
And frankly, I think it kind of sets a situation where the North Koreans believe that they, you know, have the -- have the leverage, have the upper
hand on us.
Secondly, I think there's a big issue of how we're treating the South Koreans. The South Koreans are very dependent on our trade relationship. We
are, by far, their most important partner. And they -- this has kind of put them in a tough position where they can't afford to allow any kind of
escalation of problems with the U.S. So, they're put in a very tough position where they have to essentially say -- say that what the President
Trump is doing is OK with them or something.
So, I think -- I think the way this is done, and finally, I'd like to make the point that if we're going to have talks with the North Koreans, let's
have some serious talks. Talks should not begin at the summit level. They should begin with experts who deal with these issues, who understand what's
achievable, what's not achievable, rather than have some -- some show at some place which is very unlikely to bear fruit.
GOLODRYGA: Can I pick up on that third point that you just made? Because you negotiated the 2005 joint agreement where Pyongyang actually agreed, at
least on paper, to abandon its nuclear weapons.
Now, here we are in 2026 and North Korea is estimated to have some 60 nuclear warheads. And Kim Jong Un says that he will not talk with President
Trump unless Trump acknowledges and accepts that they are a nuclear-powered state.
So, looking back over the years, even prior to Trump's presidency and the - - the Biden administration as well in between, was there really a deal to be had or was North Korea just playing for time?
HILL: I think North Korea has been playing for time. They've never renounced the use of nuclear weapons, although in a -- in an agreement in
2005, they suggested they might be willing to do that.
But I think the reality is they want to continue to be in their view, a nuclear state. So I take your point that this has been very difficult,
which is why we started on a very kind of step-by-step basis.
We wanted them to shut down the reactor so that they would not be producing more fissile material. We succeeded in getting them to shut down their
nuclear reactor. We even had them -- we even blew up the cooling tower to make it even more difficult to restart their reactor.
There has been an issue with the nuclear enrichment. As you know, there are two ways to get a bomb. One is through a plutonium reactor, and the other
is through enriched uranium.
So, this enabled us to be on the ground and kind of work this step-by-step. I think if there's any chance of slowing down North Korea, it won't come
with some huge big bang day when Kim Jong Un hits the side of his head with the palm of his hand and said, now I see what you're saying. We're going to
give up our nuclear weapons. That's not going to happen. It's going to have a -- a very step-by-step process over time could build some kind of some
level of trust.
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But I think it is very important that we understand, this is a real threat to security. Countries in Asia are looking at this very carefully. They
don't have nuclear weapons because they have trusted in our nuclear umbrella.
And right now, I mean, we've gone from a country that (TECHNICAL ISSUES) when you asked the U.S. to do something, the U.S. said, yes, you could --
you could take that to the bank.
And now I think there's a perception that we are unreliable. And this, I think, is the main issue that President Trump is going to have to deal
with.
ASHER: I think a lot of the U.S.'s allies are coming to that realization. But when it comes to South Korea specifically, obviously, you talked about
the fact that, you know, there has been this longstanding trust that, listen, we know that when push comes to shove, the United States is going
to protect us.
Obviously, they can't take that to the bank anymore. The message that they're probably getting from all of this is that we have to rely on
ourselves. We have to essentially come up with a strategy for our own defense going forward. What does that look like for South Korea?
HILL: Well, I think it will continue to heavy investments in the -- in the military.
And if you look over the -- over the years, the U.S. has been -- have been down considerably in South Korea. I think they've used the number the other
day of 39,000. Actually, it's 29,000. They may have misread that in -- in the briefing material.
We've really reduced the number of forces there because the South Koreans are one of the most capable armies in the world. I mean, they really are
impressive. In fact, they have equipment very much like ours. And they've been selling that equipment to Europe.
So, it's a -- it's a very serious place. The question is, and perhaps the issue that you hinted at, is the question of, should South Korea have its
own nuclear deterrence? So far, the answer is absolutely not.
But also, the question, should Japan have a nuclear deterrent of its own? And the answer has been no, because essentially over the years, it's been,
you don't need to have nuclear weapons because we have nuclear weapons.
And now we have to see whether that proposition, where that nuclear umbrella, as it's called, is kind of looking a little leaky these days.
ASHER: All right. Former U.S. ambassador to South Korea, Christopher Hill, thank you so much for being with us. We appreciate it.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Still to come on "One World," a tour in Philadelphia is giving some people a new found appreciation for pigeons.
Zain, what do you think of pigeons? We'll have more after the break.
ASHER: My mind goes to Trafalgar Square right away.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. A new tour in Philadelphia takes people on an unusual journey to meet the real city dwellers, the pigeons.
ASHER: CNN's Scout Richards shows us how a rehabilitation turned into a passion project.
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SCOUT RICHARDS, CNN JOURNALIST (voice-over): Did you know pigeons can produce milk for their babies? That's just one of many things you'll learn
on Philadelphia's hottest new outing, the Philly Pigeon Tour.
ASPEN SIMONE, CO-FOUNDER, PHILLY PIGEON TOURS: Who's ready to go see some pigeons?
ALL: Me.
RICHARDS (voice-over): The whole thing started four years ago when Aspen Simone and Hannah Michelle Brower became infatuated with the birds after
rescuing a sick pigeon, who's now named Primrose.
HANNAH MICHELLE BROWER, CO-FOUNDER, PHILLY PIGEON TOURS: We're kind of pigeon haters before we met Primrose.
I did take her to a rehabilitator. She was malnourished. I got a text saying, I don't think she is going to survive on the streets of
Philadelphia, so do you want to pet pigeon?
RICHARDS (voice-over): Their newfound pigeon obsession eventually sparked an idea, why not turn it into a tour? And it turns out people were
interested.
SIMONE: We had this joke, we talk about pigeons so much, it could be our job. And now it is. It sold out instantly. We added more tickets. So, we
decided to do it weekly. And from there, it's just taken off.
RICHARDS (voice-over): According to their website, the tour promises to teach participants all about pigeon's behavior, biology, and history while
also covering the birds' long relationship with humans. And if you're lucky, you may even see something surprisingly elusive, a baby pigeon.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was also cool to be like in our own neighborhood and look at it in a different way.
BROWER: We really want people to come away from our tours with compassion and empathy, seeing them in a new light as something valuable as part of
the city ecosystem and increase compassion towards all beings, including all groups of humans.
SIMONE: And thanks for being on the pigeon tour.
BROWER: Thanks y'all.
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GOLODRYGA: Zain has already signed up on the tickets for that tour. All right.
ASHER: You know me.
GOLODRYGA: That does it for "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher. Appreciate you watching. Bianna will be back with "Amanpour," next.
GOLODRYGA: Have fun pigeon watching.
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